August 11, 2010
— Ace This could be one of those one-in-twenty bad polls, as no one else has anything like this (and Rasmussen hasn't found Rubio ahead for a long time).
But-- they have it Rubio 38, Crist 33, Meeks 21.
(That's also a much higher level of support for Meeks than anyone else has found.)
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Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 11, 2010 07:47 AM (mHQ7T)
Come ooooonnn, 23!
Posted by: Mitt Romney again at August 11, 2010 07:47 AM (7w/iR)
Well, you know the old saying, "Never count your chickens until you've fucked at least three of them."
Posted by: taylork at August 11, 2010 07:48 AM (0Hn5w)
I think the Dems Meeks and Greene are the wildcards here, if it's Rubio, Crist, Greene, then Rasmussen shows Crist with a +1 over Rubio.
Still, that's closer than it was, and encouraging.
Posted by: Dave in Texas at August 11, 2010 07:49 AM (WvXvd)
Remember: FARK has a 'Florida' tag for a reason.
Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at August 11, 2010 07:50 AM (IkEhE)
Posted by: Oxrock at August 11, 2010 07:50 AM (tBNec)
But Intrade has Crist up by 20%!!!!!!!!
Thought I'd miss a poll thread? No way Jose. Mine is an evil laugh!
Posted by: In before the troll at August 11, 2010 07:53 AM (P9+0W)
Posted by: Marco Rubio at August 11, 2010 07:54 AM (zgZzy)
He is waiting until after the Aug 24 primary ...
Posted by: bill-tb at August 11, 2010 07:54 AM (y+QfZ)
Posted by: George Hamilton at August 11, 2010 07:55 AM (zgZzy)
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at August 11, 2010 07:55 AM (uP7xk)
Posted by: Vic at August 11, 2010 07:55 AM (/jbAw)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 11, 2010 07:55 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at August 11, 2010 07:56 AM (9PzaA)
Rubio 38, Crist 33, Meeks 21
Would mean the Democrats are garnering 54% of the vote against a good Republican candidate, in a Republican state, in a Republican year. Which seems really odd to be any measure of the real world.
For example, have there been many polls as to whether people know Crist is running as an "independent" with outreach from Obama?
Posted by: 18-1 at August 11, 2010 07:57 AM (7BU4a)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 11, 2010 08:00 AM (UOM48)
You have the party apparatchiks voting straight ticket dem anyway and republican anyway..
Which would only help Rubio and hurt Crist..
Posted by: Dave C at August 11, 2010 08:02 AM (Mis5Q)
FL hasn't been a "Republican State" in a long long time.
Posted by: Vic at August 11, 2010 08:02 AM (/jbAw)
http://bit.ly/cLDfk8
Posted by: J. Pinkerton Snoopington at August 11, 2010 08:03 AM (Ulu3i)
Posted by: Jean at August 11, 2010 08:08 AM (WkuV6)
Democratic Pollster Mark Penn is holding a $4,500 a plate fundraiser for Crist in D. C.
If Rubio makes Crist own it that will be the end of Crist.
Posted by: robtr at August 11, 2010 08:08 AM (fwSHf)
Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at August 11, 2010 11:50 AM (IkEhE)
Voting is hard. I mean they tell you who to vote for...but then like the lines don't line up and stuff. Hey KENO!!!
Posted by: Average FL Dem Voter at August 11, 2010 08:09 AM (7BU4a)
Posted by: kansas at August 11, 2010 08:09 AM (mka2b)
so whichever party they are, Crist, ain't one of them
he's burnt toats......
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at August 11, 2010 08:10 AM (uP7xk)
Posted by: H Reid at August 11, 2010 08:13 AM (pr+up)
Posted by: Jean at August 11, 2010 08:15 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: dagny at August 11, 2010 08:15 AM (2m3wG)
O/T but in line with what I was saying about "hating the poor": Obama has apparently cut 11.9 billion from the food stamp program...that and higher taxes on businesses is what will be paying for this teacher union bailout thingy.
Ordinarily I don't like the idea of food stamps -- but as of late I've seen people (people I know to be decent and hardworking, who've never asked for a handout in their lives) who are really in dire straights, and the local food pantry and church soup kitchens have seen an uptick in turnout...and they may have to shutter their doors because they aren't getting even half of the charitable donations they got even a year ago. I don't like seeing my peeps in this condition. I especially don't like seeing them suffer so the frakking Dems can stroke their damn teacher's unions to roll out the vote for them. grrrrr
Obama hates poor people! Let them eat cake! Who cares if poor little urchins are reduced to eating from dumpsters!
Posted by: unknown jane at August 11, 2010 08:20 AM (5/yRG)
Those hardworking folks in dire straights wouldn't need food stamps if non-government hiring wasn't punished...so let's discourage it some more.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at August 11, 2010 08:24 AM (9PzaA)
I hate to pick nits, but if you don't count the chickens, how would you know to stop at three?
That's also a much higher level of support for Meeks
Why do I always have a vision of some guy stuck in a gorilla suit on board a slow boat to Africa with his new boyfriend gorilla whenever I see the name Meeks?
(I know, it's Beeks) (I know also, that that is racist and I should therefore be banned)
Posted by: CUS at August 11, 2010 08:24 AM (wOGfT)
39 Exactly...kick the poor bastards on food stamps thanks to their jobs going away or cutting back hours, and then do away with food stamps benefits...because the damn teachers' unions are such good henchmen.
I hate these assholes.
Posted by: unknown jane at August 11, 2010 08:26 AM (5/yRG)
Posted by: Jean at August 11, 2010 08:26 AM (WkuV6)
39 Exactly...kick the poor bastards on food stamps thanks to their jobs going away or cutting back hours, and then do away with food stamps benefits...because the damn teachers' unions are such good henchmen.
I hate these assholes.
Posted by: unknown jane at August 11, 2010 12:26 PM (5/yRG)
Nancy and the Dems made a huge strategic blunder here. They thought the word would not get out that they were cutting food stamps. big mistake.
Posted by: Johnnyreb at August 11, 2010 08:28 AM (JSetw)
Osama Obama is showing fiscal responsibility, you know.
I can't help but think about how many people could be fed on the cost of his (and Ma'm Obama's) constant vacations, never mind the number who wouldn't be facing starvation if the Traitor-in-Chief wasn't allowed to pander to his pet union thugs.
Until this year, I was closer to the usual knee-jerk "conservative" line that claims everyone who wants work can find it, and those who accept help are lazy, TV-watching parasites.
Now I know better. I'm still charitable enough to hope that those who think the poor are all lazy losers don't have to correct their thoughts the way I have....
Posted by: J. Pinkerton Snoopington at August 11, 2010 08:29 AM (Ulu3i)
I said it was an old saying. I didn't say it was a good one.
Posted by: taylork at August 11, 2010 08:38 AM (0Hn5w)
One of the most influential politicians to come from Chicago and affect the nation, Daniel David Rostenkowski, at the age of 82, died Wednesday morning at his home in Wisconsin.
Posted by: Tami at August 11, 2010 08:38 AM (VuLos)
Posted by: Our government is totally into anal. Totally. at August 11, 2010 08:39 AM (uFokq)
I'm liking the -22 on the Ras's Ogabe poll. How low does that go before we see a serious Dem primary challenger emerge? At which point, I'm just warning you, my erection will block out the sun. Do not be alarmed unless it lasts more than 4 hours.
Posted by: IreneFingIrene at August 11, 2010 08:39 AM (JNqU9)
I'm liking the -22 on the Ras's Ogabe poll. How low does that go before we see a serious Dem primary challenger emerge? At which point, I'm just warning you, my erection will block out the sun. Do not be alarmed unless it lasts more than 4 hours.
Posted by: IreneFingIrene at August 11, 2010 12:39 PM (JNqU9)
So you're handle on here is more literal than I realized...
Posted by: reason at August 11, 2010 08:44 AM (F26eZ)
*sigh*
YOUR. NOT YOU'RE
*locks himself up in the coat closet and flogs his own back with a length of rubber hose*
Posted by: reason at August 11, 2010 08:45 AM (F26eZ)
-->Ordinarily I don't like the idea of food stamps -- but as of late I've seen people (people I know to be decent and hardworking, who've never asked for a handout in their lives) who are really in dire straights, and the local food pantry and church soup kitchens have seen an uptick in turnout...and they may have to shutter their doors because they aren't getting even half of the charitable donations they got even a year ago.
The key is that food stamps (and all related social spending) are state responsibilities. The federal government shouldn't be mucking around in such expenditures.
And charitable donations are down, in large part, because of the assault that The Precedent and his junta launched against private charitable donations. The Indonesian Imbecile even argued the fairness of a flat tax, in order to attack private charitable donations - remember how he said that it was "unfair" that those in higher tax brackets get to benefit disproportionately from their charitable donations because they are deducted at higher rates (due to the highly progressive/offensive tax rate schedule that the dems argue is "fair").
There's nothing that can be done to change the junta's attitude about this, so private charities are going to be hit, no matter what. The junta wants to starve the private charities out, so that only the feral government decides who deserves "charity".
-->Obama hates poor people! Let them eat cake! Who cares if poor little urchins are reduced to eating from dumpsters!
Posted by: unknown jane at August 11, 2010 12:20 PM (5/yRG)
That's exactly what the Indonesian Imbecile said when he announced to America (during one of the primary debates) that he would raise capital gains taxes, even if it was assumed to result in reduced revenues to the government, because it was more important to punish the successful (for "fairness") than to fund any programs he claimed were so essential for the poor.
As I always say, America knew exactly who this retard was.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 11, 2010 08:45 AM (Qp4DT)
I've always wondered why the poll numbers for Rubio were so high right up until Crist turned tail on the GOP. Ever since, even though he's wildly popular down here, he trails The Orange One in most polls.
I just don't get it. I also smell just a little BS.
Crist is a prime example of the type of people we Do. Not. Want. In. Washington. Shirley you don't think he actually gives a shit about the people and what we want, do you? If he did, would have quit the GOP when he was so far behind Rubio? Methinks not.
Self-serving? Check.
Responsive to the wishes of the people? Uhh, umm, prolly not.
Integrity? Bwahaahaaaaa!
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 11, 2010 08:45 AM (kFODZ)
I'm guessing if it gets into the thirties, the various Dems start doing som internal polling to see where the numbers would be.
I'm asking another question. How low does it go before he starts floating the War Crimes Trials Against Bush Et. Al. balloon go revive his base?
Posted by: CUS at August 11, 2010 08:46 AM (wOGfT)
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at August 11, 2010 08:47 AM (I30wK)
Posted by: curious at August 11, 2010 08:47 AM (p302b)
44 Yeah, things have changed...there are working people (or formerly working people) who are on food stamps now.
Still, even if it wasn't the case -- the Dems howled "heartless" way back when the Repubs tried to make cuts in the school lunch program. Turnabout is fair play, isn't it?
The Sun(ni) King hates the poor and wants their children to starve! The teachers don't like poor children!!
(no offense to those former education peers of mine out there who are still in the trenches trying to hold the line, but we of all people know who I'm talking about, and they have to go)
Posted by: unknown jane at August 11, 2010 08:48 AM (5/yRG)
Posted by: Harriet, an 85-year-old Crist supporter at August 11, 2010 08:48 AM (F26eZ)
Food stamps are one of the most effective forms of economic stimulus. As more and more people get food stamps, the better our economy gets!
Posted by: Nancy Pelousi at August 11, 2010 08:48 AM (9hSKh)
There was a time when I would say, "that would be political suicide." But those days are over. I was convinced in Fall 2008 with the amount spent on tarp that national health-care was dead at least until the economy had fully recovered. Well obviously I was very wrong. So yeah that will be next.
Posted by: long island at August 11, 2010 08:52 AM (/QzyE)
Posted by: unknown jane at August 11, 2010 08:57 AM (5/yRG)
What's worse, perhaps, is that applications for non-existent housing were being handed out.
It seems incomprehensible that the rage being felt by the poor is not directed at the Osma Obama regime. The MSM's campaign to canonize the Traitor-in-Chief has been far more effective than they could ever have imagined.
Posted by: J. Pinkerton Snoopington at August 11, 2010 09:00 AM (Ulu3i)
Posted by: unknown jane at August 11, 2010 09:00 AM (5/yRG)
Posted by: unknown jane at August 11, 2010 09:02 AM (5/yRG)
There is no cut in food stamps; there is a promise to cut food stamps down the road when the Republicans are in office.
So the Republicans will be faced with the choice of cutting food stamps, increasing the deficit, or raising taxes; all of which the Dems will scream and blame them for.
Posted by: Vic at August 11, 2010 09:03 AM (/jbAw)
Posted by: Minnie Rodent at August 11, 2010 09:05 AM (PZLW0)
Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 11, 2010 09:07 AM (Qp4DT)
Oops. "during a lawful stop" should have been in there.
Sorry.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 11, 2010 09:08 AM (Qp4DT)
Posted by: unknown jane at August 11, 2010 09:18 AM (5/yRG)
Yeah it's easy to see how they are creating the stink. Here is the headline at Fox which is really AP.
Democrats, Advocacy Groups Blast Cuts to Food Stamps to Fund $26B Aid Bill
It isn't until the 8th paragraph that you find out that the "cuts" are not until 2014 and they only take it to "pre-stimulus" levels which were advertised as "temporary" for the economy but the Dems are now admitting were really permanent.
Nope, the whole thing is another double whammy strategy by the commies. First lie about the 26B budget buster and also set up the Republicans for a fall in 2014.
Posted by: Vic at August 11, 2010 09:27 AM (/jbAw)
Posted by: unknown jane at August 11, 2010 09:44 AM (5/yRG)
LOL, if the leadership was "smart" they would never have lost control of congress, McCain would have been run out of the Party, and we would have a conservative Republican President.
Posted by: Vic at August 11, 2010 09:57 AM (/jbAw)
Posted by: unknown jane at August 11, 2010 10:02 AM (5/yRG)
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