August 30, 2010
— Ace Manchin 48%, Raese 42%.
But isn't Manchin more popular than that?
Perhaps one explanation for this divide is that among those voters who Somewhat Approve of ManchinÂ’s performance, 64% Strongly Disapprove of President ObamaÂ’s performance.
Powerline is writing that "Toss Up" is the new "Leans Republican," so maybe "Leans Democrat" is the new "Toss Up," too.
Thanks to Herr Morgenholz, Jean, and DrewM.
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Posted by: nickless at August 30, 2010 10:18 AM (MMC8r)
fewer water heaters are showing up on the side of the road.
And those that are on the side of the road don't have bullet holes in them.
Seems people are recycling their heaters and/or repairing them and also saving their ammunition.
.
Bad sign for Democrats.
Posted by: BumperStickerists at August 30, 2010 10:18 AM (Hj0nA)
Posted by: Rocks at August 30, 2010 10:19 AM (Q1lie)
Posted by: Sockpuppet Czar at August 30, 2010 10:19 AM (tUigX)
Republicans should hold off the victory parades because our polls show Obama has very high ratings in ice cream eating and bicycle riding, far higher than any other president.
Posted by: Newsweek at August 30, 2010 10:19 AM (uFokq)
Posted by: ParisParamus at August 30, 2010 10:21 AM (06v7e)
I'd love to see President Obama have to break out the veto pen.
Posted by: looking closely at August 30, 2010 10:22 AM (6Q9g2)
Posted by: phreshone at August 30, 2010 10:22 AM (1AnxB)
Posted by: Rocks at August 30, 2010 10:23 AM (Q1lie)
Posted by: Methos at August 30, 2010 10:24 AM (7WkAq)
Make 'em spend.
Posted by: JEM at August 30, 2010 10:24 AM (o+SC1)
Posted by: Obama's bicycle helmet at August 30, 2010 10:25 AM (L8kaT)
Powerline is writing that "Toss Up" is the new "Leans Republican," so maybe "Leans Democrat" is the new "Toss Up," too.
That's what I've been saying about Ohio. I talk to a lot of people of all stripes during the course of the day and I cannot believe that Ohio is a "toss up."
Posted by: ErikW at August 30, 2010 10:26 AM (jXyj0)
Posted by: CAC at August 30, 2010 10:26 AM (lV4Fs)
I bet the potato knish has already said more about the Ground Zero Mosque than old Chuckie Schumer.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 30, 2010 10:27 AM (FkKjr)
Posted by: ErikW at August 30, 2010 10:27 AM (jXyj0)
Posted by: MacDaddyZion at August 30, 2010 10:27 AM (GvYeG)
In addition to replacing Byrd with an R, it's a special election so the winner sits in the lame duck session. The more we can pad that, the safer the republic will be.
Posted by: DrewM. at August 30, 2010 10:28 AM (X/Lqh)
Posted by: CAC at August 30, 2010 10:28 AM (lV4Fs)
Posted by: beerologist at August 30, 2010 10:30 AM (r2UKM)
I said it in the last thread, but since this is actually about WV:
The media has their built in explanation though for WV. "Well WV is full of nothing but racists. Afterall they elected a Klan member to the Senate. The Governor was obviously just too cozy with Obama for these inbred bigots to vote for him."
Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2010 10:30 AM (oVQFe)
And Castle in Delaware.
They are both suspect but Castle is even more squishy than Kirk.
I'll still take him but I'd like some padding.
Posted by: DrewM. at August 30, 2010 10:30 AM (X/Lqh)
In addition to replacing Byrd with an R, it's a special election
so the winner sits in the lame duck session. The more we can pad that,
the safer the republic will be.
Same situation in Illinois. Kirk wins.....he goes right in.
NOW THAT'S SOME GOOD SHIT!
Posted by: Kemp at August 30, 2010 10:31 AM (AQxTm)
Posted by: In before the troll at August 30, 2010 10:31 AM (P9+0W)
We're a toss-up like Obama is a Christian.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at August 30, 2010 10:31 AM (5aa4z)
interesting...
kallisto in the other thread just commented on how some semi-famous douche is de-friending Tony Larussa because he went to Beck's 8/28.
The Left uses McCarthyism more than McCarthy did. They blackball anyone who has anyting to do with Beck, Bush, Palin, etc.
Posted by: Newsweek at August 30, 2010 10:32 AM (uFokq)
Posted by: JEM at August 30, 2010 10:32 AM (o+SC1)
I've noticed that people often say "eleventy" at times like this. I don't know why, but
Eleventy!
Posted by: rdbrewer at August 30, 2010 10:32 AM (LutGd)
Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2010 02:30 PM (oVQFe)
And they have voted Democrat for 150 years. Not gonna work.
Posted by: Rocks at August 30, 2010 10:32 AM (Q1lie)
(But I am looking to organize a Moron Meetup in NYC or nearby NJ for election night!)
Posted by: ParisParamus at August 30, 2010 10:32 AM (06v7e)
We're a toss-up like Obama is a Christian.
Right to the heart! Good!
Posted by: Kemp at August 30, 2010 10:32 AM (AQxTm)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 30, 2010 10:32 AM (yQWNf)
That's what I've been saying about Ohio. I talk to a lot of people of all stripes during the course of the day and I cannot believe that Ohio is a "toss up."
Posted by: ErikW at August 30, 2010 02:26 PM (jXyj0)
It isn't. The economy is so deep in the toilet after Strickland has done every wrong fucking thing for 4 years (including backing the HMS Pantsuit 2 years ago) that all incumbents and donkeycrats have to be shitting their pants.
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 30, 2010 10:33 AM (EPgc2)
An update on Washington in the Seattle Times today it seems all of the state democrats are in trouble in the suburbs. My loser senator Eric Omeg fell 3 points behind the republican in the primary and it's the same throughout King County suburbs.
Rick Larsen is way behind for US Congress in the 6th district with the republican getting more votes than he and his democrat primary challengers combined.
When King County Washington starts going red the Dems are dead.
Posted by: robtr at August 30, 2010 10:33 AM (fwSHf)
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at August 30, 2010 10:33 AM (5aa4z)
Posted by: Rocks at August 30, 2010 10:33 AM (Q1lie)
Posted by: Vic at August 30, 2010 10:33 AM (/jbAw)
Posted by: CAC at August 30, 2010 10:33 AM (lV4Fs)
NOT TRUE, WVA voted for the Republican presidential candidate in the last THREE elections.
Posted by: Kemp at August 30, 2010 10:34 AM (AQxTm)
Thanks, Mallamutt.
40% is about 35% more likely than I think most observers would have estimated a year ago.
Posted by: looking closely at August 30, 2010 10:35 AM (6Q9g2)
How's Phil Hare polling?
How about that guy who likes to hug strangers on the street, Bob Etheridge?
Posted by: mr magoo at August 30, 2010 10:35 AM (uFokq)
Posted by: Kemp at August 30, 2010 02:34 PM (AQxTm)
Is this a Presidential election?
Posted by: Rocks at August 30, 2010 10:36 AM (Q1lie)
Posted by: CAC at August 30, 2010 10:36 AM (lV4Fs)
How's Phil Hare polling?
How about that guy who likes to hug strangers on the street, Bob Etheridge?
I'll check on that for the morons, son works at state HQ. His opponent is rather weak. His district is over a third Black, and he is a good ole boy, I know him. Will try to find out for everyone.
Posted by: Kemp at August 30, 2010 10:37 AM (AQxTm)
Posted by: Generalissimo Obama at August 30, 2010 10:37 AM (FcR7P)
Yeah.
I think even the squishiest of the squishes will stay firm in the lame duck because even if the Republicans don't win the Senate, they will come close. It would be intolerable to cut a deal that close to the minority have more sway. Even the Maine gals have kept their awfulness to a minimum this year.
Now what scares me are the retiring Rs (Voinivich, Bond and Gregg). I could see 2 of the three supporting a tax increase on the way out the door as part of Obama's 'deficit reduction' task force plan.
That's why I want as much padding as possible.
Posted by: DrewM. at August 30, 2010 10:38 AM (X/Lqh)
Posted by: Newsweek at August 30, 2010 10:39 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: Generalissimo Obama at August 30, 2010 02:37 PM (FcR7P)
Go with the L Wedge. It's a nice ladies club, my daughter loves hers.
Posted by: robtr at August 30, 2010 10:39 AM (fwSHf)
I'm also pretty certain that the Dems...
well it seems pretty clear that they hate members of the Congressional Black Congress.
Don't really know why.
They just do, I guess.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 30, 2010 10:39 AM (r1h5M)
Posted by: Rocks at August 30, 2010 10:39 AM (Q1lie)
Manchin is still pretty popular with the coal mining unions
Posted by: beedubya at August 30, 2010 10:39 AM (AnTyA)
Posted by: Jeff at August 30, 2010 10:39 AM (A3tpD)
Posted by: Betting Bear at August 30, 2010 10:40 AM (9cflz)
On it.
Posted by: Hillbuzz at August 30, 2010 10:41 AM (7WkAq)
Posted by: B. Hussein Obama at August 30, 2010 10:42 AM (AZGON)
O/T: I heart my governor:
[Jindal] said the decision to ban further exploration in the wake of the explosion on BP’s Deepwater Horizon rig resulted from “confusion.”
“I don’t think they understood how the energy industry worked — I think they really thought that the rigs could simply flip a switch,” he said. “In the beginning, the administration suggested people file BP claims with unemployment claims. We made it clear that people want to go back to work.”
Posted by: Mama AJ at August 30, 2010 10:42 AM (XdlcF)
Posted by: Generalissimo Obama at August 30, 2010 10:42 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: jjshaka at August 30, 2010 10:42 AM (lomwj)
There are some Dems who are to the right of Snowe and Collins.
Posted by: Vic at August 30, 2010 10:42 AM (/jbAw)
I think that's our plan. You for Obama or not?
So, YES, I think we are going to nationalize the race.
We are if the fucking idiots at RNC have any sense.
Posted by: Kemp at August 30, 2010 10:43 AM (AQxTm)
Posted by: beerologist at August 30, 2010 10:44 AM (r2UKM)
Posted by: Generalissimo Obama at August 30, 2010 02:42 PM (FcR7P)
Don't forget to wear your helmet
Posted by: robtr at August 30, 2010 10:44 AM (fwSHf)
Posted by: John Galt at August 30, 2010 10:45 AM (F/4zf)
Kemp my point was the MFM can't really get away with calling WV racists if they don't vote democrat because they usually do vote democrat. Not that Manchin can't be beat.
Posted by: Rocks at August 30, 2010 10:46 AM (Q1lie)
Posted by: Chief of Violation at August 30, 2010 02:38 PM (L8kaT)
I appeal: The correction was to my own comment, which is exempted in the protocol.Posted by: Methos at August 30, 2010 10:47 AM (7WkAq)
I'll have you know that the lob is extremely useful on tight pin positions and nasty greens where you need a nice soft drop.
So screw you.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at August 30, 2010 10:47 AM (5aa4z)
In addition to replacing Byrd with an R, it's a special election so the winner sits in the lame duck session. The more we can pad that, the safer the republic will be.
Posted by: DrewM.
---------
Illinois is the same, Drew. So, if Kirk wins, he takes Burris's place for the lame duck session.
Posted by: ChiTown Jerry at August 30, 2010 10:47 AM (f9c2L)
Now what scares me are the retiring Rs (Voinivich, Bond and Gregg). I could see 2 of the three supporting a tax increase on the way out the door as part of Obama's 'deficit reduction' task force plan.
Voinivich, yea. Gregg and Bond, no. Gregg seems to be pretty straight forward about the need to reduce federal spending. Bond the same. Voinivich, on the other hand, seems to be willing to do that.
And don't forget, Jim Bunning would love to give Mitch McConnell one nice, long F.U. out the door.
Posted by: Mallamutt at August 30, 2010 02:42 PM (OWjjx)
Didn't Voinovich say something stupid about taxes recently? I'm so glad this poor excuse for a Republican isn't running again
Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2010 10:49 AM (oVQFe)
Mccain is off the hook so he's free to flip.
Posted by: Rocks at August 30, 2010 10:49 AM (Q1lie)
Posted by: Chief of Violation at August 30, 2010 10:50 AM (L8kaT)
So screw you.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at August 30, 2010 02:47 PM (5aa4z)
You're always looking for a nice soft drop.
Why didn't you f*cking come to me like a f*cking man and tell me not to try and run it up with my 7!
Posted by: robtr at August 30, 2010 10:50 AM (fwSHf)
Yeah, good point. I worry the fucker, as governor, is going to buy every fucking body off with state money.
Ever seen a Highway Patrolmen campaign? I have.
And, it is a crooked as shit illegal state, stolen from VA during the War of Northern Aggression by the Yankees and never really ratified.
Actually, we're glad to rid of the trash.
Posted by: Kemp at August 30, 2010 10:50 AM (AQxTm)
Posted by: ChiTown Jerry at August 30, 2010 02:47 PM (f9c2L)
Kirk could try to setup his Independent creds early with a vote for Crap and Tax during the Lame Duck.
Posted by: Rocks at August 30, 2010 10:51 AM (Q1lie)
Yeah, so much for the Southern strategy.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 30, 2010 10:51 AM (mHQ7T)
Uh oh, we're screwed now. Obama's figured out the master plan on how to beat all the Republican candidates in 2010...
Posted by: Zimriel at August 30, 2010 10:51 AM (9Sbz+)
Actually, we didn't really want it either, FWIW.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at August 30, 2010 10:52 AM (5aa4z)
Posted by: toby928 at August 30, 2010 02:50 PM (S5YRY)
I think this is the same thing a FB friend posted for OMFG!!!!!!!!!11!!!1! Global Warming!!!111!!!!!11!!! during the Copenhagen conference.
Click "Environmental" and you'll see.
Posted by: logprof at August 30, 2010 10:52 AM (BP6Z1)
Didn't Voinovich say something stupid about taxes recently? I'm so glad this poor excuse for a Republican isn't running again
Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2010 02:49 PM (oVQFe)
He wants to raise the state's gasoline tax. Simpering cockchoker.
Posted by: ErikW at August 30, 2010 10:53 AM (jXyj0)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 30, 2010 10:54 AM (yQWNf)
Posted by: George Orwell at August 30, 2010 10:55 AM (AZGON)
Well WV is full of nothing but racists. Afterall they elected a Klan member to the Senate.
Honestly, I could see them running with this meme and not even blush. They are absolutely that shameless.
Posted by: Dang Straights at August 30, 2010 10:56 AM (fx8sm)
hmmmmm essentially a cross bow vs. that stupid biking helmet, you have to go over 5 mph to need one
Posted by: waterboy at August 30, 2010 10:57 AM (GvYeG)
Anyway, he hasn't hit the airwaves yet and needs more funding.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at August 30, 2010 10:57 AM (L8kaT)
Posted by: CAC at August 30, 2010 10:57 AM (lV4Fs)
hmmmmm essentially a cross bow vs. that stupid biking helmet, you have to go over 5 mph to need one
Pull back and use a longbow from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.
Posted by: Dang Straights at August 30, 2010 10:57 AM (fx8sm)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 30, 2010 02:54 PM (yQWNf)
This year's "How I Spent My Summer" essay's gonna be a toughie.
Posted by: Joe teh Biden at August 30, 2010 10:57 AM (BP6Z1)
Posted by: Cornhole the Libs From 10 Feet Away at August 30, 2010 10:58 AM (2OZAv)
Posted by: t-bird at August 30, 2010 10:58 AM (FcR7P)
In defense of BO he probably had to wear the helmet to give a good example to his kid and to get her to wear it so the left won't be going nuts they will just say he was being a good dad.
but contrasted with putin, the absolute hottie doing manly sarah palin type stuff it becomes funny
Posted by: curious at August 30, 2010 10:58 AM (p302b)
Son said no new polls, here is all I could come up with and it's old.
http://tinyurl.com/234uq7e
Go to the main page of the polling group, I think she has a good shot.
Posted by: Kemp at August 30, 2010 10:59 AM (AQxTm)
Posted by: waterboy at August 30, 2010 11:01 AM (GvYeG)
Posted by: t-bird at August 30, 2010 02:58 PM
When you've got nothing between your legs you can practicallly touch your knees together and nothing will get bothered
Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 30, 2010 11:02 AM (yQWNf)
Posted by: curious at August 30, 2010 02:58 PM (p302b)
Posted by: The Royal Wardrobe Officer at August 30, 2010 11:03 AM (BP6Z1)
Now on the Bush tax cuts.. I can see him voting for extending them on all but the most wealthy.. for which I could forgive him. I think we would have a hard time keeping all Repubs in line on that one anyway.. especially Brown and the Maine girls..
It may be a moot point, though. I think the Dems have to try to address those taxes before the election.
Posted by: ChiTown Jerry at August 30, 2010 11:04 AM (f9c2L)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 30, 2010 02:54 PM (yQWNf)
Nah he's just a different flavor of evil. The potency is the same.
Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2010 11:04 AM (oVQFe)
I'm not sure of Sabato's categories and how he rates the districts, but polls now coming out, Ace, do indicate your point, and maybe even moreso, if you go by RCP's charts. In their House race they put IA3 and IN2 in the Leans Dem (25 total) list that Sabato does. One that Powerline didn't have in their post about Sabato was PA3, which is also in Leans Dem in RCP.
Polls that have come out, two that RCP lists, IN2 & IA3, and one they don't list yet (PA3) are as follows:
IN2 Walorski (R) -2
IA3 Zaun (R) +10
PA3 Kelly (R) +14
I'd like to see more polls come out in the Leans Dem category before really expecting the shift of where toss-up is, but it starting to look like Lean Dems might be the new Toss-Up or even Leans R in some cases.
Posted by: Dusty at August 30, 2010 11:05 AM (tmRSK)
That's supposed to be a cowboy hat, but he looks like a pimp with a jeering Robert DeNiro in the background.
Posted by: IreneFingIrene at August 30, 2010 11:05 AM (JNqU9)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 30, 2010 02:54 PM (yQWNf)
Urkel Obama's helmet is up a bit high on his head because he has his birth certificate plaster to his forehead underneath the helmet
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 30, 2010 11:07 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: curious at August 30, 2010 11:07 AM (p302b)
Posted by: CAC at August 30, 2010 11:08 AM (lV4Fs)
I saw that too, his bicycle is shorter than his kid's bike. I then wondered if this is another case like the lady doing the news report in the boat, making you think she was in deep water when she wasn't.
Posted by: curious at August 30, 2010 11:08 AM (p302b)
Posted by: IreneFingIrene at August 30, 2010 03:05 PM (JNqU9)
--Now that you mention it, the Robert DeNiro guy looks like he's LHOA at 0bama.
Posted by: logprof at August 30, 2010 11:08 AM (BP6Z1)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 30, 2010 11:09 AM (yQWNf)
Posted by: CAC at August 30, 2010 11:11 AM (lV4Fs)
Glad you learned my name. You must have met my daughter. . . .
Posted by: John Hoeven at August 30, 2010 11:12 AM (BP6Z1)
Posted by: curious at August 30, 2010 11:12 AM (p302b)
Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2010 11:12 AM (oVQFe)
a jihadi or jihadi enabler and you were in Putin's sights you would bea bit fearful for your safety. Barky?
They would answer the call to prayer, then have tea.
Posted by: Dang Straights at August 30, 2010 11:12 AM (fx8sm)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 30, 2010 11:15 AM (yQWNf)
I know the guy, Harold Johnson. He will win.
Posted by: Kemp at August 30, 2010 11:17 AM (AQxTm)
how is he able to ride when his knees are almost touching?
He's not actually riding, he's backpedaling, as usual.
Posted by: Carolyn at August 30, 2010 11:29 AM (NYjsM)
Posted by: Heat Miser at August 30, 2010 11:34 AM (9cflz)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at August 30, 2010 11:54 AM (2MXgD)
Posted by: Reiver at August 30, 2010 12:06 PM (RPPEk)
"Obama and the Democrats that control Both houses of the Congress have screwed up, VOTE Republican"
Posted by: JR at August 30, 2010 12:21 PM (P9aJ4)
If thats the case i think he will win! thats what i would do run against Obama!
Posted by: JR at August 30, 2010 12:22 PM (P9aJ4)
My cat's name is Earle (with an E... Earle is a girl.) She gets a steak dinner and lobster tail, if it happens.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 30, 2010 12:29 PM (mHQ7T)
Everyone with a show, a blog or even a business that bucks this administration can look forward to similar messages. We've been aware of how unhinged the Democrat base is since Palin's church burned.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at August 30, 2010 12:33 PM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: minstrelboy at August 30, 2010 01:44 PM (rwioF)
A vote for Manchin is a vote for the Cap & Trade Bill is a vote to Kill the Coal Industry. The miners in West by God understand this, that is why I predict an upset is this Senate race. The Democrat Party, through the Cap & Trade Bill, have put a bullseye on the back of Coal in America. They want to kill it. West Virginia is a major coal producing state. Ergo, voting for Dem's in the upcoming election is akin to voting to put most of the state out of work.
Posted by: hughie at August 30, 2010 02:21 PM (v6JKx)
Posted by: letitbe at August 31, 2010 01:28 AM (BG/R0)
First Teddy Kennedy's seat goes R. Now Robert Byrd's and possibly Obama's.... (laughs manaically)
There is a God!
Let's not start sucking each other's popsiscles just yet...
(Daily Kos still has Blanche Lincoln as a "toss up")
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