1 let my people go!

2 Of course we forget. It is a built in psychological defense system. It is the only way we can function after being completely traumatized. For instance, I was involved in a bad accident a long time ago, I know I was hurt, I know I was hospitalized, but I have no recollection of the actual event. Same thing.

3 Ace, I made the mistake of listening (on Hannity) to the beheading of Berg.  I will never, ever, ever forget it.  Nightmare inducing doesn't begin to describe it.

4 Hey stop that - your compromising the jury pool.

5 Jury Nullification!!!, he never got a "fair" trial - we will appeal forever.

6 Same thing happens to veterans of combat. Ever try to get one to talk about it? Chances are, if they do, they weren't there.

7
Deathcult.  Coexist my ass.

8 Yeah...need to MAKE our KIDS watch this stuff so they KNOW the evil of this world and develope the gonads the schools are cutting off them so  they can FIGHT the GOOD FIGHT!

9

 

As My Thompson Gitmo (yeah, I don't get the name either) saysÂ….

 

About:

MyThomsonGitmo.com aims to serve as the go-to source for exploring the security implications of bringing captured terrorists from GITMO to the US for civilian trials, as well as the potential impact to Thomson, Illinois, and its surrounding areas by incarcerating terrorists in our community.

 

10
Prager had an author on talking about how he was allowed to interview the interagators and document how all that went down.  Should be a good book.  He said the waterboarding got the suspects to a place where they didn't feel guilty about giving up information but they also really weren't harmed.  They were actually grateful for the process.  They didn't feel like they had gone down without any fight at all but they also had all their fingers and their ass still worked.  I'm paraphrasing of course.

11 I haven't forgotten my visceral reaction to 9/11. To this day I can't watch footage of that day without breaking down into tears. I visited the WTC Path Station 6 years after that day and still cried. I don't think liberals, the hard leftists, were impacted the same way. They don't love this country and I bet many of them secretly cheered after the shock wore off. I don't mean the average liberal but the hardliners like teh Won and his ilk.

12 The site name refers to Thomson, IL where they want to move the terrorists from Guantanamo. I am guessing this site has been established in an effort to alert people to just exactly what kind of scum the administration wants to house there. I still think that if they want to close Camp X-Ray they should relocate all of them to some liberal mecca, perhaps DC, NYC, SF, or maybe one of Granny's vineyards.

13 That is a powerful video... Should remind the Peacnicks that they "Islamist" don't want peace.

14 If our media wasn't so traitorous, this would be all over the news as well as the original footage of the towers.

15 OT:  Over at HotAir, there's talk of the "healthcare summit" being a trap; a diversion.  THAT'S THREAD WORTHY.

16
It's a trap!

17 How did the mythomsongitmo operatos obtain this video?

This is the first time I have seen this.  Is it covered anywhere else?

18

I was downtown NYC on 9/11, lost a number of friends, my son's in the Army and my son-in-law's in the Marines because of it. I remember, and the whole country needs to be reminded. These bastards would do it again in a heartbeat, which is why I wholeheartedly support denying them a heartbeat wherever we find them.

Just sayin'

19 he has no clue what he will ultimately be responsible for

20 I'm sure its been said already but every snot-nose college kid in the country should have to watch this before, during and after their schooling. The pricks in the MSM should be forced to watch this 24/7 w/toothpicks holding their eyes open and our Dear Leader, Rahmbo, Holder and the rest of those ACLU bed wetters should....ITYKWIM!!   

21 I know that I don't qualify for jury duty in NY. state. I would bring my 3/4 inch rope and practice making my 13 coil knot, just like I did when I was a military engineer. To display the hangman's knot in NY. state is against the law. Pussies!

22 waterboarding has been used for so many years - because it works. Libs think the interrogations are some kind of spanish inquisition nonsense where the interrogators are just dunking jihadis and yelling 'confess!' The interrogators use all sorts of psychological ploys in addition to a little of the ol' waterboarding. And they use that sparingly. oh, and no one expects the Spanish Inquisition!

23

After they got all the info they were going to get he should have been marched out in the back yard and shot.  That goes for all of them.

Yes, I do blame Bush for that.

24 negentropy" oh, and no one expects the Spanish Inquisition!" -- speak for yourself.

25

Libs think the interrogations are some kind of spanish inquisition.

Maybe we should start knocking on their knees.  

26 That's an amazing litany of cherished liberal strongholds that he targeted. And the leftist bastards condemn Bush, savior of their ungrateful asses. FUCK.

27 11, you are correct about the far left reaction. If you bring up 9/11 to a far leftist, you will be harangued with truther nonsense, and probably be accused of being a "bedwetter".

28 I know American teevee viewers are notorious for having the attention of a gnat, but I wish someone on Fox would play this whole thing straight through. Or has Beck already done that?

29 OT:  How can I get to the ONT for Valentine's Day?

30 elspeth - somebody leave you a fake phone number?

31 hahaha...no, Jean...i was telling a friend about what a hoot it was...and i can't show her

but thanks for the laugh

32

"Prager had an author on talking about how he was allowed to interview the interagators and document how all that went down.  Should be a good book."

You mean Courting Disaster by Marc Thiesson

33 The pricks in the MSM should be forced to watch this 24/7 w/toothpicks holding their eyes open and our Dear Leader, Rahmbo, Holder and the rest of those ACLU bed wetters should....ITYKWIM!!  

And I dare you SIR, to go through the horror of waterboarding SIR!

34

O/T -- Just saw this on Insty.  It's like Rush says: Until you put a stake in the Clintons' hearts, you always have to be worried:

Big Government has learned that Clintonistas are plotting a “push/pull” strategy. They plan to identify 7-8 national figures active in the tea party movement and engage in deep opposition research on them. If possible, they will identify one or two they can perhaps ‘turn’, either with money or threats, to create a mole in the movement. The others will be subjected to a full-on smear campaign. (Has MSNBC already been notified?)

Big Government has also learned that James Carville will head up the effort.

35 The prisoners at Guantanamo have outlived their usefullness.  Rather than spend millions to transfer them to stand trial in a civilian court and and grant them rights only afforded US citizens, it's time to put a bullet in all there heads.  Bastards.

36

My grandfather was in the Navy at the start of WWII in the Philippines.  His sub tender the USS Pigeon shot down 2 Zero's on Dec 7th (they hit them at the same time they hit Pearl Harbor) and was later sunk in Manila Bay.  He swam ashore to Corregidor and joined up with the Naval Battalion who fought in the final assault on Corregidor.  He ended up being shipped to Japan to work in a coal mine for the duration of the war were he received several additional Purple Hearts from wounds inflicted by his captors. I never once was able to get him to talk about anything he experienced and had to read the medal citations and various accounts of the action to piece together what he went thru.  He was not some shelled shocked zombie but was a always a gruff but talkative old man just not about WWII. 

Had he lived to see 9/11 he most certainly would have been waiting for the local Navy recruiter to open on 9/12 to sign up again.   

 

37 Google me now. Seriously. Watch the youtube vid.

38 This is the kind of asshole who benefits most from those millions of democrats and thousands of Ron Paul supporters who think Bush "LIHOP MIHOP".

But hey, they're just asking questions!  If you say they're insane they will point out they have the right to say stuff.

There was no conspiracy.  It probably feels safer to think Bush was in perfect control, but if psychos hate us enough and try hard enough they can kill us.

39

OT: Just saw a commercial with various people of different races proclaiming, "We are all Dr. Amy Bishop!"

I don't know what that means.

40 SHOPPED

I can tell 'cause of the pixels.  That's Colin Powell in makeup.

ronpaulftw.ytmnd.com

41

Remember when Rosie O'Donnell got all bent out of shape because this subhuman filth's "civil rights" had been violated?

Yeah, me neither.

42 Islam needs it's head ripped off, a turd stuffed into it's throat, and then set on fire.

What an absolute waste of humanity that so called religion is.  We must crush these filthy Islamist bastards QUICKLY.

Do Dems watch those videos?  If they do, what do they think?  How can any rational person watch that and not want to stomp the next Islamic mother fucker they see? 

43 I can't believe Obama is cupping KSM's freaking balls. Quit sucking him off and send him to his 40 virgins already.

44 We probably can't kill all these psychos, and we can't change their hearts.

So what do we do?

I think we should take a droned Mig 29 and drop millions of leaflets over Mecca promising to blow it up if the Chechens don't surrender to Russia in 1 week.  And a week later, blow up Mecca no matter what they do.

45 elspeth - evangelicalism is encouraged. Google the following "http://minx.cc" and "your hash" -- without the quotes, assuming you posted on it and you know the hash you posted using.

46 It wouldn't be hard, just grab the next guy you see that looks like he crawled out of a dumpster and has never been introduced to a razor. 

How long are we going to 'not jump to conclusions' before they hit us AGAIN?

Fuck you Barry

47 The Mig 29 is the big one, right?  The Su-27 is the tiny one?  Whichever one if bigger, we should send.  Rig the drone to appear to have an ejected cockpit.

Why not?  Islam is directly refuted if Mecca is destroyed and the world doesn't end immediately, so there are seeds of doubt.  Russia and China are behind much of our problems in the Middle East, and are probably better equipped to deal with psycho terrorists than we are.  It's Kung Fu to harm the Jihadist idea and also send their hatred away from the USA.

48 33 The pricks in the MSM should be forced to watch this 24/7 w/toothpicks holding their eyes open and our Dear Leader, Rahmbo, Holder and the rest of those ACLU bed wetters should....ITYKWIM!!  

And I dare you SIR, to go through the horror of waterboarding SIR!

Posted by: Keith Olbermann at February 17, 2010 03:44 PM (sYxEE)

I would subject myself to waterboarding to prove the point; besides it won't be half as bad as watching your daily, putrid diatribes you effette, hand-wringing, commie, mama's boy!!  

49 Jean - that OT request was my first post ever on ace's blog...then i laughed at you, and now this...i'm up to 3

50

My dad never talked about the war except when he was drunk (Dad suffered from a fair bit of shell shock, of that I'm pretty certain).  Even then, he didn't talk about it much.  My dad hated war, because he knew what it was, and always said it was a thing best avoided.  He also said that sometimes you just couldn't avoid it, and when that happened you did whatever you could to win, win big, and win quick -- I don't think he'd have been too dainty to have wanted terrorists waterboarded (and more).

Another member of the family (connected through marriage) spent time in a German POW camp; he had the bad misfortune of having a very German name and a family that was just off the boat.  They beat him up pretty badly (his hands and legs broken, multiple times, all to try and get him to renounce America, which he never did); even the Russian prisoners felt sorry for him.  He talked a little, because his scars made what happened so obvious that people asked (he couldn't walk and couldn't use his hands at all the last 10 years of his life, thanks to his treatment) -- still didn't say too much.  Would definitely have not had a problem with waterboarding these terrorists.

I'm glad neither lived to witness this.

51 guess i'm a lurker

52 49 Jean - that OT request was my first post ever on ace's blog...then i laughed at you, and now this...i'm up to 3

Posted by: elspeth at February 17, 2010 04:00 PM (0AkWH)

Ahhh, welcome. Nuttin like a busted cherry on a weds. afternoon!! Liberating isn't it!!

 

53 dananjcon - the valentine ont reminded me of chat room fun i used to have in the 90's...nice to laugh at goofiness, but my cherry was popped a long, long time ago

but...i do like the way you think ;-)

54

They should have raped, slaughtered and eaten his favorite goat while they were waterboarding that fat fuck. 

We should kill anyone or anything that ever so much as said a kind word to or even gazed upon these fuckers.

 

 

55 Here it is Jean:

http://tinyurl.com/yzq4zq8

56 Ooops...sorry.  That was for you elspeth.

57 Thanks!

I actually found it with Jean's suggestion about googling it.  Turns out, I wanted the post LauraW made asking for input on a great valentine gift.  You know, the one with the really kewl graphic?

Love all the M&Ms!  Thanks!

58

Ace you don't forget.  None of us do.  We put it out of our minds to spare us the pain of reliving it.

I told all of my friends that that film of the second plane hitting, should be required at the start of all newscasts.

59 You don't forget, really.  Intellectually, at least.  But the visceral reaction fades after time.  Plus, you see that picture of KSM on TV, and he looks harmless.  He looks like an avuncular Arab Santa Claus. 

And then you watch this video, and it brings it all back.  I was in lower Manhattan a week after, and what got me most was the smell - a mix of concrete, jet fuel, and death.  I will never forget that smell. 

What struck me most in this video was how good his English is.  There's no possibility of  him misinterpreting the charges against him.  In fact, he admitted everything.  If we weren't a civilized country, the temptation to behead this animal publicly would be strong.  Why is he still alive, all this time later?  Trial, my ass.  Tribunal my ass.  He admitted everything.  Execute him.

60

Jeff @ 36

I recently read  a book called"The Fleet the Gods Forgot"by W.G.Winslow.If you have'nt read it,you should.The Pigeon was a submarine rescue vessel(ASR-6).

The bravery of these men never ceases to amaze me.I would have considered it a great honor to have met your grandfather.My grandfather was in the Navy during WWII also,unfortunately he passed away before I was old enough to really talk to him about his service.I do know he was wounded and complications from those wounds cut his life short.I would have loved to recieve his memorabilia but my grandmother was quite a douche and basically threw away his service ribbons,uniforms (along with my fathers)etc; before I could get my hands on them.I still resent her for it to this day.

Oh,if your interested,and can't find a copy,I would be willing to send you mine.Your chest will swell with pride when you read of the "Pigeons" exploits.

61

Sorry to go off track.I just recognized the name of the ship and thought Jeff might like to read the book.

As far as KSM goes,nothing we could do to this slime would bother me.Also,I think about 9/11 often.Probably too much.It always brings my blood to an instant boil.I may be a little harsh here,but I could care less if we wiped the Muslim religion,and it's followers,off the face of this earth.The images of them dancing in the streets will never be forgotten,or forgiven, by this poster.

62

I hadn't seen the full-frontal, direct-hit video of the plane through the tower before. Damn.

I had seen a video of the one guy's head (not Pearl) being sawed off. Eleventy damn.

Wasn't it the intellectual Joy Behar who said that Christians were just as evil? Has anyone considered sawing her head off?

63

"The one guy" = Berg. Middle-aged brain moment, even though I saw his head being sawed off.

No, it's not nightmare-inducing to me, because once you've seen real-life worse, you get a numb.

64 two things. 1) ksm should never be shown as he would wish -- in full islamowhackjob garb, wise eyes peering through full beard. he should forever be remembered as the fat slob awoken at 3am with pizza stains on his tee shirt and goat jiz on his chin. and 2) the introduction of the unbelievably-unready-for-primetime duo of holder and obama at the end is extremely jarring. you just know they're gonna screw it up. more.