1

linky no worky

2 Postalanche!

3
ahh, this isn't the Coburn quote I expected, but still good, nonetheless

4 The link goes ... nowhere.

Is that a subtle and intentional joke?

5 Coburn quote with video....

Senator Tom Coburn warned members of the House of Representatives that Republican senators will watch carefully for any deals the White House or Democratic leaders make with members in exchange for their votes.

6
So  I take it there are no changes?

7 The link goes nowhere because it is meant to do that. Bush Lied again people !!!!!

8
ahhh, sweet, Mjim

/thumbs up

9 Reconciliation II: The Reconciliationing

10 Reconcile the link!

11

"Is that a subtle and intentional joke?"

I vote present.

12 There's no link there, much as there's no there there.

13 Bush lied - Link Died!

14 Stinkin' linkin'

15 I'd grade it a solid B+.

16 I can get all the broken links I want at The Hostages.

17 Here's a link to the bill: http://docs.house.gov/rules/hr4872/111_hr4872_amndsub.pdf

Don't know what Ace was linking.

18 I am not so sure this whole House of Reps thing is not just a show. I beleive the Senate bill stinks so bad that the HOR don't want to do any vote then blame it on Reid for passing such a bad bill. Then the finger points back to Reid as the fall guy. It may be a battle between the House and Senate Dems with Obama in the middle with his finger up his butt taking it out about every 15 minutes to see if the smell changed !!!

19 I deem the link works

20 That link has NO negro dialect.

21 Wake me up when the rioting begins.

22 Representative democracy is tyranny. We need direct democracy. None of the traitors up on the hill support direct democracy because none of them believe in democracy. This country needs a purge like they had in Cambodia.

23 OT The kid from Brooklyn NSFW language

24 Rush is now encouraging everyone to not only call and email, but to MAIL the crap out of the Capitol.

25 It's not opening but I think that is a good thing. Why don't you read it and tell me the juicy parts?

26 omg would you look at the frakking name of it now?!

THE HEALTH CARE & EDUCATION AFFORDABILITY RECONCILIATION ACT of 2010

27 Oh for god's sake:

Sec. 1408. Elimination of unintended application of cellulosic biofuel producer credit.


(and sock off)

28 25 Rush is now encouraging everyone to not only call and email, but to MAIL the crap out of the Capitol.

Posted by: Filly at March 18, 2010 02:35 PM (onwJ3)

I guess we still have USPS delivery on Saturday, right?

29 THE HEALTH CARE & EDUCATION AFFORDABILITY RECONCILIATION ACT of 2010

How can anyone vote against EDUCAMICATION!!!!

30 Goody.

Section 2104.  Investment in Historically Black Colleges and Universities and Minority Serving Institutions. 

31

Reconcile this!

/wagging my Worf unit/

32 Now that this is out, it looks like we are set for a sunday vote. GOD HELP US.

33 I guess we still have USPS delivery on Saturday, right? Posted by: AmishDude at March 18, 2010 02:38 PM (T0NGe) Saturday delivery is every other letter, compared to Monday thru Friday which is 75% of the mail.

34 We need Official AofSHQ plastic pitchforks.  (Plastic because that takes oil and the cops won't care even though they will be on our side!).

35 HEALTH CARE & EDUCATION AFFORDABILITY RECONCILIATION ACT

HCEARA? They're not even trying anymore.

36 omg would you look at the frakking name of it now?! Yup. Kiss private education loans goodbye. This is a piece of candy for the liberals.

37

We are so close to people quitting theirr day jobs and becoming artists and photographers!!!

yippeee!

38 It's hard to open a link in a dead dog's ass...

39 We need Official AofSHQ plastic pitchforks swizzle sticks.

40 I just mailed a letter too!!!

41
"Saturday delivery is every other letter..."

You mean like vowels and shit?

42 Now that this is out, it looks like we are set for a sunday vote. GOD HELP US.

I see nothing in there on abortion, so it's official that Nancy has thrown the Stupak 12 under the bus.

I don't see the special deals explicitly eliminated, either, but maybe that's in the fine print.

43 Honestly, WTF does student loans have to do with HCR? This is just ridiculous.

44 I'm telling you folks this is the only way they can get reparations passed.

45 "Saturday delivery is every other letter..." You mean like vowels and shit? Prcsly.

46 Can anybody open the link?

47

PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE RECONCILLIATION BILL...

There was an earthquake in Hawaii!  We have a new crisis to replace the old crisis.

48 If this goes on any longer they may throw cap and trade in there as well.

49 Gutierrez is in:

Section 2104.  Investment in Historically Black Colleges and Universities and Minority Serving Institutions. $100 million to Hispanic Serving Institutions

50 ? Investment in Historically Black Colleges and Universities and Minority Serving Institutions. This section amends section 371(b) of the Higher Education Act by extending funding for programs under this section created under the College Cost Reduction and Access Act of 2007 for programs at Historically Black Colleges and Universities and minority-serving institutions through 2019, including programs that help low-income students attain degrees in the fields of science, technology, engineering or mathematics by the following annual amounts: $100 million to Hispanic Serving Institutions, $85 million to Historically Black Colleges and Universities, $15 million to Predominantly Black Institutions, $30 million to Tribal Colleges and Universities, $15 million to Alaska, Hawaiian Native Institutions, $5 million to Asian American and Pacific Islander Institutions, and $5 million to Native American non-tribal serving institutions. Yea. I see how this is going to affect health care.

51 #17 Thanks, that reads like a summary, ie not the axual text of the bill.  I strongly suspect there are things in the bill that are not included in the linked summary.

52

from pity's link

Sec. 1401.  High-cost plan excise tax.  Reduces the revenue collected by the tax by 80 percent.   This is achieved by:  delaying the application of the tax until 2018, which gives the plans time to implement and realize the cost savings of reform; increasing the dollar thresholds to $10,200 for single coverage and $27,500 for family coverage ($11,850 and $30,950 for retirees and employees in high risk professions);  excluding stand-alone dental and vision plans from the tax; and permitting an employer to reduce the cost of the coverage when applying the tax if the employerÂ’s age and gender demographics are not representative of the age and gender demographics of a national risk pool.  Under the modified provision, the dollar thresholds are indexed to inflation and the dollar thresholds are automatically increased in 2018 if CBO is wrong in its forecast of the premium inflation rate between now and 2018.

Sec. 1408.  Elimination of unintended application of cellulosic biofuel producer credit. Adds an additional revenue provision.  In 2008, Congress enacted a $1.01 per gallon tax credit for the production of biofuel from cellulosic feedstocks in order to encourage the development of new production capacity for biofuels that are not derived from food source materials.  Congress is aware that some taxpayers are seeking to claim the cellulosic biofuel tax credit for unprocessed fuels, such as black liquor.  The provision would limit eligibility for the tax credit to processed fuels (i.e., fuels that could be used in a car engine or in a home heating application

Huh?

53

Perks (sec 1201-Nebraska Medicaid matching), add-ons (sec. 2101 et seq re Pell Grants and other student financial assistance and sec 1408 re biofuels) and overall nutbaggery (sec. 1101 re closing medicare drug donut hole)

Sounds about right to me.

54

Healthcare and Education? Well I guess that is better than the original name, Baby Killing and Freedom Destruction Bill 2010.

55 Can anybody open the link? Posted by: maddogg

It's at #17

56 I guess we still have USPS delivery on Saturday, right?

He's encouraging Priority mail (which, if sent today, should get there on Saturday), as well as FedEx and UPS.  It's actually a pretty good idea; not only is it another avenue to reach the "undecideds" and the truly waverings, it stands a chance to completely immobilize the mail system up there.  They'll have to sort out an actual constituent letter from a $5 Kos contribution.

57

just throwing in cht-?

Section 2102. Student Financial Assistance.  This section provides $13.5 billion in mandatory appropriations to the Federal Pell Grant program.

Section 2103. College Access Challenge Grant Program.  This section amends section 786 of the Higher Education Act by authorizing and appropriating $150 million for fiscal years 2010 through 2014 for the College Access Challenge Grant program created under the College Cost Reduction and Access Act of 2007.  Provides that the allotment for each State under this section for a fiscal year shall not be an amount that is less than 1.0 percent of the total amount appropriated for a fiscal year.

58
44 Honestly, WTF does student loans have to do with HCR? This is just ridiculous. Posted by: carin

There's bound to be some juicy stuff in that part also.  Like community service to "pay off" student loans.  They may have just really f-ed up by linking the two.

59 Nebraska is OUT? Nebraska is OUT?

1201. Strikes the provision for a permanent 100% federal matching rate for Nebraska for the Medicaid costs of newly eligible individuals. Provides federal Medicaid matching payments for the costs of services to newly eligible individuals at the following rates in all states

60 There's bound to be some juicy stuff in that part also.

Check out the pork for Hispanic and Black colleges.

61 Like community service to "pay off" student loans.

Yeah, I can just IMAGINE what that "community service" would consist of.  I'm thinking a great deal of altruistic ferrying of corpses to polling places.

62 60 Nebraska is OUT? Nebraska is OUT?

No, Just 49 states are in...

63 Nebraska is OUT? Nebraska is OUT?

Shouldn't that give these idiots an inkling of where their little sweetheart deals will go the moment it's expedient? No wait, they're Democrats and therefore dummies.

64

hmm, well there is alot of non-health related shtuff.

well i guess that's where we look for the fraud first.

65 Now they are going to charge medicare tax on your profits if you sell your home. That should help the housing market.

66 Drudge says Hoyer has made it official: 72 hours from now. Vote on Sunday. God help us.

67 Raiding education funding was the only way they could get the CBO score they needed to get it to the rules committee -- NRO had something on that this morning.  (Of course, that CBO score is unofficial, but that won't stop them from voting anyway if they decide to).

I guess it also makes "sense" politically -- even if the Senate screws them and just forwards their POS straight to Dear Leader's desk, the representatives can say they voted in favor of the whole enchilada-- education "reform" and all.

68

So...someone put me some knowledge....

 

Doesn't this alter the senate bill to the point that reconcilliation is no longer possible?

69 Drudge says Hoyer has made it official: 72 hours from now. Vote on Sunday. God help us. Posted by: arhooley at March 18, 2010 02:50 PM (8iLXV) Oy. They think they can pull it off.

70 They are going to pass this shit.

71 Doesn't this alter the senate bill to the point that reconcilliation is no longer possible?

Yes, which means the Senate bill is IT. There will be no reconciliation; there will only be the Senate bill.

72

Whoa:

Title I, Subtitle F, Section 1502: Elimination of Whitey.

73

"Oy. They think they can pull it off."

They don't & won't have the votes.  This is to force the undecideds out, so they can focus their strong arm tactics.

74 Oy. They think they can pull it off.

Mind you, it's just a static red text thingy with no link. I can't find anywhere that it's official.

75
What's happening to the Ewok? He can't even "accidently" link to busty lesbian pron correctly anymore.

Did he try to quit smoking again?

76

They think they can pull it off.

If they were competent in running a government, they'd know for sure. They would have been certain two weeks ago.

The good news is that if this is all theater, then this shit salad goes in the trash for another tewlve years.

The bad news in that case would be that the people running the United States government betray themselves to the world as being lousy players in a friendly trillion-dollar-ante game. That's chump change to our foes.

77 Funny.  Most of the students protesting the costs of college in California last week were white.  They, no doubt, voted for Obama, but looks like they got screwed.  Does the college money kick in faster than the health care-or do minorities-students have to wait,too.

78 #70

Well, they either think that:

a. They have the votes to pass Obamacare. . .or
b. They *probably* have the votes to pass it, or
c. Whether or not they're OK with their whip counts, they think that this is their realistic best shot and they want to just finish this one way or another.

My money is on c.

79 Honestly, WTF does student loans have to do with HCR?


Gov't is going to decide who can to go to med school and who can't.  MCAT?  Irrelevant.

80 Investment in Historically Black Colleges and Universities and Minority Serving Institutions....
Yea. I see how this is going to affect health care.

Did I mention they're going to decide who gets to go to medical school?

81 @81,

no f*cking joke!  I hope you like being treated -- when you eventually get treatment -- by someone who checked the exact right combination of the twenty zillion grievance boxes on their federal student loan apps. 

Basically, take every horror story you've ever heard about Britain's NHS and then triple-size it and get it cranked on crystal meth, because here in America we don't do things half-assed.

 

82

ok. health care is so important cuz so many are being tonsil'd and de footed, but lots of crap is inclded, so how much are they spending on education ,taking from those greedy selling home owner to give for college degrees ?

where's the fear of dead? that it is sooo darn important we Must do this now, but college degrees or

Title II – Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions

Subtitle A – Education

huh?

83

What. The. FUCK.??

This bill is chock full of more waste for things totally unrelated to "health care reform".  Just think, if this passes it will be incorporated into whatever finalized ObamaCare bill they concoct.

 

84

So if they included the Cornhusker kickback to all the states, then this thing is no where near deficit netural, and doesn't that kill the reconciliation process of having to reduce the deficit?

 

85 IRS agents verify if you have “acceptable” health care coverage;
  IRS has the authority to fine you up to $2,250 or 2 percent of your income (whichever is greater) for failure to prove that you have purchased “minimum essential coverage;”
  IRS can confiscate your tax refund;What could go wrong?

86 now we're going to provide government loans to schools OUTSIDE the US??? WTF? Section 2209. Origination of Direct Loans at Institutions Outside the United States. This section provides for the origination of federal Direct Loans at institutions located outside of the United States, through a financial institution designated by the Secretary.

87 #86: that's easy to get around: set up your withholding so you don't get a refund.

88 87 now we're going to provide government loans to schools OUTSIDE the US??? WTF? Section 2209. Origination of Direct Loans at Institutions Outside the United States. This section provides for the origination of federal Direct Loans at institutions located outside of the United States, through a financial institution designated by the Secretary.       We pay for abortion outside the country.  If we're providing money to kill babies, we might as well be educating the ones that survive the uterus.

89 "Saturday delivery is every other letter..."

You mean like vowels and shit?

Posted by: Dang at March 18, 2010 02:41 PM (UA4gE)

Vowels as stand-alone letters were just a mistake the Greeks made when they adapted the Semitic alphabet, anyway.  It's about time someone fixed that.

90

Ace - link dead - fix <a> tag. Should say 'href' and not 'hef' .

 

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