January 21, 2010

Reconciliation Still on the Table
— Slublog

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"You still don't get it, do you? She'll try to pass it!
That's what she does! It's *all* she does!"

Guess it's not old. Despite what she said earlier, Pelosi will not be denied.

Rep. Paul Ryan (R., Wis.), the ranking member of the House Budget Committee, tells National Review Online that House Democrats are planning to use the budget-reconciliation process in order to pass Obamacare. “They’re meeting with each other this weekend to pursue it,” says Ryan. “I’ve spoken with many Democrats and the message is this: They’re not ready to give up. They’ve waited their entire adult lives for this moment and they aren’t ready to let 100,000 pesky votes in Massachusetts get in the way of fulfilling their destiny. They’ll look at every option and spend the next four or five days figuring it out.”
If the Democrats pull this off and manage to shove this monstrosity through Congress, I'm sure Obama will be so offended that they didn't listen to him that he'll refuse to sign it out of principle. Right?

Right?

(h/t: Rich Lowry's Twitter feed.)

Posted by: Slublog at 02:40 PM | Comments (458)
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1 Bring it .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at January 21, 2010 02:42 PM (a9UO0)

2 Kamikaze politics.

Posted by: The Greene Bard at January 21, 2010 02:45 PM (ZvV/I)

3

Meh!

I'd like to see 'em try it! The jig is up, this is all about keeping their dumbass supporters happy. The 52% actually believed that the Democrats care about thier wants and needs!

It's like watching a train wreck.......Exciting but Scary!

Gravity only works in one direction!   

Posted by: Jimi at January 21, 2010 02:46 PM (fqxV7)

4 From an earlier thread:

I still think the Senate is considering reconciliation.  However, the House has to pass a new bill.  Pelosi's statement today meant that she doesn't have the votes to re-pass the bill the House already passed. 

I bet what they're considering is having the House pass a new, slightly different bill, and then having the Senate pass it through reconciliation, making Brown's 41st vote irrelevant.

I stick by it.

Posted by: angler at January 21, 2010 02:47 PM (SwjAj)

5 Here's a line in the sand , wait ..... Here's another line in the sand .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at January 21, 2010 02:47 PM (a9UO0)

6 We're being ruled by a bunch of vicious, petulant children  And I refuse to fucking be ruled. Don't Tread on Me.

Posted by: LGoPs at January 21, 2010 02:48 PM (tm/sN)

7 If they do this, the tar and feathers very likely will not be metaphorical.

Posted by: alexthechick at January 21, 2010 02:48 PM (zDOQT)

8 AIR AMERICA FILED FOR BANKRUPTCY! Breaking: Air America Ceases Live Programming, Will File for Bankruptcy Breitbart and Drudge

Posted by: katemaclaren at January 21, 2010 02:48 PM (HqGZw)

9 Just keep this in people's minds another 10 months, Dems, I dare you.

Posted by: Randy at January 21, 2010 02:48 PM (zQKSr)

10 I heartily approve this strategy.  Banzai!!!


Posted by: Lieutenant Yukio Seki at January 21, 2010 02:48 PM (Q/hy1)

11 No... please please please not again.....


ARRRRRRRRGGGHHHHHHHHH

s-s-s-s-stop   f-f-f-f-f-f-f-fucking     m-m-m-m-m-me        p-p-p-p-p-please

Posted by: The Chicken at January 21, 2010 02:48 PM (ffV1/)

12 Go ahead, make my day.

Posted by: 2010 Midterm voters at January 21, 2010 02:49 PM (YBTwf)

13 One of the comments--"Just when I thought the week couldn't get any better..." hahahahaha!

Posted by: katemaclaren at January 21, 2010 02:49 PM (HqGZw)

14 What provisions are allowed via reconciliation and what provisions can't be passed through that method?

Posted by: stuiec at January 21, 2010 02:49 PM (7AOgy)

15

Dems:  Hit me again, please.

Posted by: Vashta.Nerada at January 21, 2010 02:50 PM (NYsdu)

16 Jesus- it's like a death cult. Well OK- I'll guess it's going to get messy in November.

Posted by: jjshaka at January 21, 2010 02:50 PM (fhaXF)

17 7 If they do this, the tar and feathers very likely will not be metaphorical.

Posted by: alexthechick at January 21, 2010 06:48 PM (zDOQT)

+100

Posted by: conscious, but numb at January 21, 2010 02:50 PM (Vu6sl)

18 55 gallon drum of pudding coming up

Posted by: pep at January 21, 2010 02:50 PM (0K3p3)

19 If these guys really think they are going to pass the most massive, un-Constitutional expansion of the federal government (explicitly admitted to by that imbecile Harkin when he said that CONGRESS had "moved health care from a privelege to a right") as a revenue bill ... man, oh man.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at January 21, 2010 02:50 PM (A46hP)

20 14  Apparantly the process can't be used to anything that would increase the deficit.   Of course, given the creative accounting being employed (that would shame the Enron people) that will allow just about anything.

Posted by: Hatchet Five at January 21, 2010 02:51 PM (Q/hy1)

21 @8 , Please , the only one allowed to not read posts is ace , and presently he's being fitted for a lace wig .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at January 21, 2010 02:51 PM (a9UO0)

22 Dip...Dip...Dip!

Posted by: Jimi at January 21, 2010 02:51 PM (fqxV7)

23 Well, so this is what LGF has in common with the DNC

Posted by: katemaclaren at January 21, 2010 02:52 PM (HqGZw)

24 two words:

shooting war

Not that I'm advocating it in any way, [SERIOUSLY, not advocating such a thing, it would be horrible and devastating] it's my sincere prediction though. 


Posted by: s'moron at January 21, 2010 02:53 PM (p1s9n)

25 The military has a term: situational awareness.  This isn't it.

Posted by: pep at January 21, 2010 02:53 PM (0K3p3)

26

Here's Toby Harnden in the UK Telegraph on why none of the six options for the Democrats looks viable.

http://tinyurl.com/ybwywuj

Posted by: stuiec at January 21, 2010 02:53 PM (7AOgy)

27 What happened to that whole "consent of the governed" idea?

Posted by: rawmuse at January 21, 2010 02:53 PM (1IG1n)

28 I just can't catch a break.  Pass the astroglide, please. 

Posted by: The Chicken at January 21, 2010 02:54 PM (9Wv2j)

29 27 Rawmuse Dems in Congress are the governed and they have consented to The One.

Posted by: katemaclaren at January 21, 2010 02:55 PM (HqGZw)

30 Son of a bitch! I don't know if my innards can take much more of this nonsense.

Posted by: Chicken at January 21, 2010 02:55 PM (qcgPU)

31 Man, this is getting awesome!

Posted by: Max Power at January 21, 2010 02:55 PM (q177U)

32 The thing to remember with reconciliation is that whatever passes with 50 votes, can be undone with 50 votes.  So if they go this route, the Republicans will not need a supermajority to undo what is passed with reconciliation.  Also, reconciliation allows for lots of parlamentary procedures that can slow the process way down, all the way until the midterms.  I guess the Dems have to ask if they really want to have this festering all that time.  It will also show the public just how the Dems feel about them.  The problem is that the House doesn't understand the Senate's rules for reconciliation. 

Posted by: Opus at January 21, 2010 02:55 PM (IebeI)

33

"I We thought you were dead!" -Johnson Massholes and other free thinkers
"I We get that a lot lately." - Ripley Obamabots

Posted by: Aliens Resurrected at January 21, 2010 02:55 PM (8g9qq)

34 What provisions are allowed via reconciliation and what provisions can't be passed through that method?
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They can't pass mandatory coverage or drug reimportation from Canada through reconciliation, but they can expand Medicaid and Medicare to the high heavens. Also, those sweeteners for unions and Nebraskans would be out.

Posted by: arhooley at January 21, 2010 02:55 PM (6GjHP)

35 Voter to right of them,
Voter to left of them,
Voter in front of them
  Vote'd and thunder'd;
Storm'd at with shot and shell,
Boldly they rode and well,
Into the jaws of Dumb,
Into the mouth of Hell
  Rode the three hundred.

-- Charge of the Not So Bright Brigade

Posted by: Iskandar at January 21, 2010 02:56 PM (doEqS)

36 2 things...1.  That statement needs to be made into a RNC commercial toot sweet.  It drips with contempt for voters and the will of the people.

2.  I'm almost to the point that I wish they would pass it.  So, hypothetically, if they do something loco like this and B to the O reluctantly signs it.  2010 Rmageddon TM comes and R's take back both houses, but by thin margins.  They immediately pass a repeal of said HC by the same reconciliation methods used to enact it.  Does B to the O sign the repeal?

Posted by: The Hammer at January 21, 2010 02:58 PM (YBTwf)

37 So, the Democrats are officially changing their party name to (Scorched Earth)

Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner At Large at January 21, 2010 02:58 PM (erIg9)

38 This is the sort of blind commitment to the cause that only a newly castrated member of the Heaven's Gate suicide cult could appreciate.

Posted by: The Greene Bard at January 21, 2010 02:59 PM (ZvV/I)

39 At this point, let them jump off the cliff.

Posted by: ParisParamus at January 21, 2010 02:59 PM (NPtVh)

40 In the name of God stop!!!  My ass is already stretched out beyond recognition!

Posted by: The Chicken at January 21, 2010 03:00 PM (Q/hy1)

41 32  Great points, Opus. 

Posted by: Peaches at January 21, 2010 03:00 PM (9Wv2j)

42 Come and drink the kool-aid, my good democrats.

Posted by: Jim Jones at January 21, 2010 03:00 PM (Q/hy1)

43

Just like their brethren in Russia, the American left celebrates Christmas in January. We should be very thankful this year, because they have been very generous with their gifts. This week alone proves that their stupidity is a gift that keeps on giving....

Posted by: Cheney's Power Mane at January 21, 2010 03:01 PM (qcgPU)

44

Also, reconciliation only allows for a 5 year window for deficit reduction.  And the deficit reductions have to be real, no accounting tricks.

Posted by: Opus at January 21, 2010 03:01 PM (IebeI)

45

Mark my words, they will NOT get this through using reconcilliation. This is a smokescreen to hide what they are actually going to try to do.

 

Posted by: Vic at January 21, 2010 03:02 PM (QrA9E)

46

I say we take off and nuke the entire site (DC) from orbit.

It's the only way to be sure.

Posted by: HoundOfDoom at January 21, 2010 03:03 PM (MUloE)

47

I can't see this getting anywhere, not without the exemptions for the unions -- if it does pass I can see this being a very turbulent summer all the way up to the elections this November; if it does pass with the exemptions it'll be chaos.  These folks are either way to cocksure of themselves or just plain crazy, or both.  Wtf?? are they going to start throwing themselves on the floor, screaming and kicking literally next?

Get on the horn to the GOP -- this insanity on the Dems part needs to be shouted from the tops of the highest buildings in the land, daily, from now until the '12 elections.

Posted by: unknown jane at January 21, 2010 03:03 PM (5/yRG)

48 the deficit reductions have to be real, no accounting tricks.
----------------

That's right, I'd forgotten that one, stueic. So the expansions would somehow have to be deficit-neutral or deficit-reducing. Which would actually defeat the real purpose in a way.

Posted by: arhooley at January 21, 2010 03:04 PM (6GjHP)

49 if it does pass with the exemptions it'll be chaos.
-------------------

It can't include the exemptions as I understand it. I could be wrong, but that's what I've heard.

Posted by: arhooley at January 21, 2010 03:05 PM (6GjHP)

50 The CIA will not give up on their scheme to impose this abomination on America.

Posted by: Ron Paul at January 21, 2010 03:06 PM (ehLtp)

51 So all the jubilation and ball-dipping Tuesday night was ill-spent?

Posted by: 48%er at January 21, 2010 03:07 PM (QOE7k)

52 This just in! The Capitol Building has been filled with bunkbeds and President Obama has ordered all Democrats to put on their purple Nikes, and report there ASAP with their farewell letters....

Posted by: Breaking News! at January 21, 2010 03:07 PM (qcgPU)

53

The only items that can pass reconciliation are budgetary items.  So all the exemptions would be out. 

Posted by: Opus at January 21, 2010 03:07 PM (IebeI)

54 Mark my words, they will NOT get this through using reconcilliation. This is a smokescreen to hide what they are actually going to try to do. Please , do tell .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at January 21, 2010 03:07 PM (a9UO0)

55

TheyÂ’ve waited their entire adult lives for this moment and they arenÂ’t ready to let 100,000 pesky votes in Massachusetts get in the way of fulfilling their destiny.


You know I said basically the same thing about those damn pesky Russians at Stalingrad

Posted by: hitlers ghost at January 21, 2010 03:08 PM (MdzCh)

56

43 just like their brethren in Russia, the American left celebrates Christmas in January. We should be very thankful this year, because they have been very generous with their gifts. This week alone proves that their stupidity is a gift that keeps on giving....

Hey Cheney, not everyone who celebrates Christmas in January is a commie, you know......

Posted by: Eastern Orthodox Christian at January 21, 2010 03:08 PM (8g9qq)

57 The White Whale!

Posted by: Nancy 'Ahab' Pelosi at January 21, 2010 03:10 PM (+deq6)

58 Barry will sign it even when the CBO scores it at over a TRILLION in cost.  Hell, what's one more violated "promise".

LET THEM PASS IT!  NOVEMBER WILL BE A BLOODBATH AND THE DEMOCRATS WILL BE IN A POLITICAL WILDERNESS FOR 40 YEARS!

Posted by: GarandFan at January 21, 2010 03:10 PM (ZQBnQ)

59 It's their revenge on the people of Massachusetts. 

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 21, 2010 03:11 PM (eNxMU)

60 This is getting fucking epic.

Posted by: Holger at January 21, 2010 03:11 PM (8NGHm)

61

@52,

No man, just be patient, these people are crazy not stupid...It is all a sideshow! It's like going to the movies, only some of the childern in the audience think it's real.

Vic,

You have it correct! This is theater, or Naked Opera for the 52%. The Commies never stop, they are just waving their right hand in our face, while they line up the Left Hook to put us down. It was a good Ball Dipping week, but the war isn't over.

Posted by: Jimi at January 21, 2010 03:11 PM (fqxV7)

62 So..what's the definition of insanity again??

Posted by: dananjcon at January 21, 2010 03:11 PM (95T9r)

63 OK, this is more important:  I just saw a commercial with some motocross dude doing a jump with a flip while spraying his arm pits with deodorant.  Then after the jump some hot chick is interviewing him with a microphone.  It looks like she alternates between sniffing the microphone and his armpits. 

What's up with that?  Does it represent a voter sniffing a democrat and then the health rationing bill?  And which one is the democrat?  The microphone or the pit?

Posted by: Jiffy P at January 21, 2010 03:13 PM (Ck5Xu)

64 Evidently the Democrats are not worried about November.  Having been caught with their pants down on a "cake walk" election, they'll have ACORN out in force in each state.  Don't be surprised to see a lot of dead people coming in to vote.

Posted by: GarandFan at January 21, 2010 03:13 PM (ZQBnQ)

65 Even a dead snake flops a few more times.

Posted by: bill-tb at January 21, 2010 03:13 PM (y+QfZ)

66

Wow, this is unbievably dumb.

This is like the captain of the Titanic circling around to make another pass at that iceberg.

This is like the captain of the Hindinberg ordering flaming shish-kabobs and cherries jubile for lunch.

This is like kicking sand on Chuck Norris at the beach.

This is like betting against a Sicilian when death is on the line.

(No, that's not it... it's dumber...)

Posted by: Warthog at January 21, 2010 03:14 PM (aX0Vx)

67
AoS seriously needs some proofreaders.

Posted by: Lincoln Adams at January 21, 2010 03:14 PM (gLNLT)

68 So..what's the definition of insanity again?? Ask me tomorrow .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at January 21, 2010 03:15 PM (a9UO0)

69 This is like watching a hostage taker stare at the lasers focused on his forehead start laughing. This could be the first documented case of suicide by voter.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at January 21, 2010 03:17 PM (8stTn)

70 Waterboard Pelosi. Now. Only make sure to use Evian. We don't want to be barbarians or anything.

Posted by: LGoPs at January 21, 2010 03:19 PM (tm/sN)

71
this is dumber than asking Yoko Ono if she knows anymore songs that she can sing for us.

Posted by: bulwark at January 21, 2010 03:19 PM (MdzCh)

72 So they are going to spend more time on health care, instead of focusing on the economy and jobs. Yeah, that's a winning plan.

Posted by: Opus at January 21, 2010 03:20 PM (IebeI)

73 69
>>AoS seriously needs some proofreaders.


We also need free hookers.


Posted by: Dr. Spank at January 21, 2010 03:20 PM (ehLtp)

74

Good PShop--but Nancy's more along the lines of Samara from The Ring, motivated by pure evil, crawling out of the well and...wait, a minute, Nancy Pelosi said she wouldn't sleep until every American got health care.  Come to think of it, my TV does start to puddle when she's on screen.    

At least The Terminator's cause was noble from a cyborg's perspective. 

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at January 21, 2010 03:21 PM (DPM1U)

75 OT, but has Obumbles come up with another winning TSA nominee yet? 

Posted by: Peaches at January 21, 2010 03:21 PM (9Wv2j)

76 So they are going to spend more time on health care, instead of focusing on the economy and jobs. Yeah, that's a winning plan.

It makes me want to do Conan O'Brien's imitation of an NBC Executive, stroking a cat Dr. Claw-style and going "Yeeeesss....YEEEESSSSS....."

By all means, Democrats: go right ahead!

Posted by: Jeff B. at January 21, 2010 03:21 PM (GhUHn)

77 If a hooker is "free", is she still a hooker?

Posted by: Confucius at January 21, 2010 03:22 PM (qcgPU)

78
We also need free hookers.

I thought that came standard with pudding???

Posted by: Lincoln Adams at January 21, 2010 03:22 PM (gLNLT)

79 I heard a GOP congressman explain this last night on FOX. In Reconciliation, which is only for budgetary purposes, the Senate Republicans can insist they read the bill and then challenge every sentence as not being relevant to the budget. Then there's a vote that requires 60 votes to include each challenged item. If it doesn't get 60, it isn't included. The GOP can tie this thing up literally for months, and the longer they do, the closer it gets to November. This isn't going to do much for the Dems in the election.  Even if they finally do pass it, the congressman basically described the final product as Swiss cheese. I'm betting they'll chicken out.

Posted by: Nancy at January 21, 2010 03:22 PM (3TdgB)

80 We'd like to thank the democrats for their diligence in this matter.  We also would like to report that we have plans to ramp up our production of our product so that there will be ample stock on hand at your local grocery store in October and November.

Go Jello Pudding!

Posted by: Kraft Foods, makers of Jello Pudding at January 21, 2010 03:22 PM (92zkk)

81 Excellent...Excellent...

Posted by: Vast Right Wing Conspiracy at January 21, 2010 03:23 PM (TVv01)

82 This is like slithering out of the spaceship on a rope to poke the alien.

Posted by: arhooley at January 21, 2010 03:23 PM (6GjHP)

83 Wow, this is dumber than anything I've said for the last 40 years!

Posted by: Sherrif Joe at January 21, 2010 03:24 PM (CfmlF)

84 82 exactly. Also they get none of their mandates or exemptions.

Posted by: Opus at January 21, 2010 03:24 PM (IebeI)

85 2010 is going to be fun.

Posted by: Holger at January 21, 2010 03:25 PM (8NGHm)

86 Please.  Please. Please.  Tell us one more time.  Show us one more time.  How we the people, are ignorant slugs, mindless peasants/fiefs that need our betters to do/decide what's best for us.

Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at January 21, 2010 03:25 PM (ucq49)

87 See...  I wasn't wrong. ;P

But yeah... if they do this it will be a blood bath in November.  So much so that I see Republicans taking back both the Senate and the House.

Posted by: enoxo at January 21, 2010 03:25 PM (eXWg4)

88 I don't buy it.  Empty threat.

Posted by: RarestRX at January 21, 2010 03:25 PM (rmNST)

89 I just want to take a minute to thank President Obama, Senator Reid, and Speaker Pelosi. You are going to make me look like a genius!

Posted by: Michael Steele at January 21, 2010 03:26 PM (qcgPU)

90

Is that a pudding stain on her eye?

Posted by: andycanuck at January 21, 2010 03:26 PM (2qU2d)

91 Wow, between owning the Jello Pudding line and buying out Cadbury, I'm going to have to get some stock in Kraft foods, but mostly for the pudding.

Posted by: runningrn at January 21, 2010 03:27 PM (CfmlF)

92 What they're going to do is shred this massive boondoggle into tiny pieces... a bill for each major aspect of the massive one, and pass it in the House and then have the Senate ram it through reconciliation.

The good news is that 1) Republicans will win heavily in November and 2) Republicans, when they regain control, can repeal each piece just as easy as it was passed (If they pass with 51 votes, it can be repealed with 51 votes.)

Posted by: enoxo at January 21, 2010 03:27 PM (eXWg4)

93

@75,

Opus,

This is it! This movement started a long time ago. These people only got into politics for this reason, and if they don't get it they'd rather be dead. It is part of their identity.

 

 

 

Posted by: Jimi at January 21, 2010 03:27 PM (fqxV7)

94 BTW, I would like to go on record on being against free healthcare, but 100% for free hookercare.


Posted by: Lincoln Adams at January 21, 2010 03:27 PM (gLNLT)

95 crikey... watching this is aneurysm of politics is getting positively delightful.

Posted by: Joy to the whirled at January 21, 2010 03:27 PM (WVBjj)

96 So they are going to spend more time on health care, instead of focusing on the economy and jobs.
--------------------

Are you sure you want those people to focus on the economy and jobs?

Posted by: arhooley at January 21, 2010 03:28 PM (6GjHP)

97 Pelosi is the poster child for why gerrymandering should be outlawed. It is un-American.

Posted by: LGoPs at January 21, 2010 03:28 PM (tm/sN)

98

Hmm..., I've got a  King and an Eight.

The dealer's showing a Hard Seventeen.  (House rules say she'll stand...)

...oh, what the fuck -

HIT ME!

Posted by: Democrat Playing Blackjack at January 21, 2010 03:29 PM (TVv01)

99 80 If a hooker is "free", is she still a hooker?

Not if you tip her.

Posted by: Joy to the whirled at January 21, 2010 03:29 PM (WVBjj)

100 Why can't the Reps filibuster? I would love to see "Mr. Brown go to Washington" and have him hold off the most unpopular bill in history.

Posted by: PJ at January 21, 2010 03:30 PM (Qpxxz)

101
The Republicans won't win big if the healthscare bill is off the table.

If the Democrats wise up and put their radical agenda on the back burner and then put on their fiscal conservative hats, the Republicans will be left holding their puds in November.

Yes, the people are that dumb. And yes they do have short memories.

Posted by: This is boner at January 21, 2010 03:30 PM (fFl1M)

102

AoS seriously needs some proofreaders.

We also need free hookers.


I just want a good 5 cent cigar

Posted by: Thomas R. Marshall at January 21, 2010 03:31 PM (QrA9E)

103 Newt bitch-slaps Obama.  That's going to leave a mark.

Posted by: Peaches at January 21, 2010 03:31 PM (9Wv2j)

104 First, hilarious post Warthog (#6 . Thanks for the laugh.

Second, the greatest thing about Pelosi and Pals taking the nuclear route is that they would have to start all over again. It's practically February and the Speaker wants to start the committee process all over again. That means months more of wrangling and hand-wringing over this most unpopular of measures.

Our ideal outcome is for them to get as close as they can, pissing off as many voters as possible in the process, only to fail at the last second. I thought we'd come about as close as possible to that ideal with Scott Brown's victory on Tuesday. Now it looks as if Pelosi is going to snatch disaster from the jaws of a setback.

Posted by: Shooter McGavin at January 21, 2010 03:32 PM (cxGtL)

105

"Are you sure you want those people to focus on the economy and jobs? "

YES.  Like a laser!  Still a lot of folks that don't follow things closely.  Have no idea about capitalism, economics, etc.  Let's give them a good education. 

What's that?  More lost jobs?  Again"

Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at January 21, 2010 03:32 PM (ucq49)

106 71 watching a hostage taker stare at the lasers focused on his forehead

Ummm, that would be really cool.  I mean, does he have to extrude his eyeballs or something?

Posted by: pep at January 21, 2010 03:32 PM (0K3p3)

107 Hey hey..wtf did I do??

Posted by: gerry mandering at January 21, 2010 03:32 PM (95T9r)

108 103 Why can't the Reps filibuster? I would love to see "Mr. Brown go to Washington" and have him hold off the most unpopular bill in history.

Posted by: PJ at January 21, 2010 07:30 PM (Qpxxz)

Reconciliation is a budget procedure that only requires a simple majority.  There is no filibustering it.

That said, the Republicans CAN object the bills that come in as exceeding the limits imposed by the Byrd Rule--which would cause the Democrats to have to strip non-budgetary parts of the bill out and limit what they can pass.  But that's all they can do until they regain power and repeal the stuff through a reconciliation of their own.

Posted by: enoxo at January 21, 2010 03:33 PM (eXWg4)

109

So each Republicans, basically, is saying "Come with me if you want to live."

Posted by: FireHorse at January 21, 2010 03:33 PM (Vl5GH)

110 You can't filibuster in Reconciliation, but challenging each item and voting on each can serve the same purpose.

Posted by: Nancy at January 21, 2010 03:33 PM (3TdgB)

111 How's that hard pivot workin' out for you, Barry?

Posted by: Cicero at January 21, 2010 03:33 PM (QKKT0)

112 Hmmm, could the Dems be trying for line item votes on this to try and hang the Republicans as being the "heartless party of No"?  It would make some little sense...because wouldn't the alternative be to go with the GOP healthcare reform plan?  They just can't have that, and they have to put on a show of "getting healthcare for all", and this is the only way I can think of that it isn't completely suicidal.

Posted by: unknown jane at January 21, 2010 03:33 PM (5/yRG)

113 What happened to that whole "consent of the governed" idea?

...when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at January 21, 2010 03:34 PM (OkT2m)

114 This shit could all be avoided if someone would find a big shiny thing and put it in the middle of the Dem's caucus room.

Posted by: Cicero at January 21, 2010 03:35 PM (QKKT0)

115 Wow, Nancy Pelosi is really committed to the cause.

Posted by: Mohammed Atta at January 21, 2010 03:36 PM (Xsi7M)

116 Every time we go through this shit I have mixed emotions. On one hand I am worried the f*-*ers might actually pass it. On the other, the negative polling of Obamacare goes up each time and they awaken and piss off more and more people...

Posted by: PAgirlinNC at January 21, 2010 03:36 PM (oTGmn)

117

@104,

I hate to say it.......But you are correct Sir!

Posted by: Jimi at January 21, 2010 03:36 PM (fqxV7)

118 Here's a wacky scenerio: Pelosi rams the Senate bill through the House, gets it to the President's desk, and he vetoes it.

It's the smart move. He can claim to be upholding the values of his progressive supporters while at the same time getting rid of the one issue bedeviling Democrats right now. Problem is Obama isn't smart.

Posted by: Chris R at January 21, 2010 03:37 PM (AO4qz)

119 I do fill out a blazer nicely though. 

Posted by: Nancy Pillowsy at January 21, 2010 03:38 PM (0K3p3)

120

He WasnÂ’t The One WeÂ’ve Been Waiting For

Paul Krugman whines that Obama be lettin' the Nobel Prize Winners Team down.  Looks like he's trying to convince Obama to double down on fucking insane!

They're gonna need a fresh chicken pretty soon!

Posted by: sherlock at January 21, 2010 03:40 PM (jdXw+)

121

@123,

That's kind easy when your a lizard! If watch her enough sometimes you can see her Shape-Shift into a Reptile, typically when her batteries are low

Posted by: Jimi at January 21, 2010 03:40 PM (fqxV7)

122 HA @ 123

I was just going to say that Palomina does have some niche knockers for an old bag.

Posted by: s'moron at January 21, 2010 03:41 PM (p1s9n)

123 Such an awful woman. But what a show!.

Posted by: LAsue at January 21, 2010 03:41 PM (gIrH3)

124 107 exactly, in a election year with unemployement continuing to rise and the economy at a stand still. The Dems want to start the committe process all over again on health care reform. When the #1 issue with voters is jobs and the economy, and the Dems want to keep fucking that chicken.

Posted by: Opus at January 21, 2010 03:42 PM (IebeI)

125 TheyÂ’ve waited their entire adult lives for this moment and they arenÂ’t ready to let 100,000 pesky votes in Massachusetts get in the way of fulfilling their destiny.

They can't get 60 "pesky" votes and they're bitching about 100,000?

Go F**k Yourselves, Democrats.

Posted by: Blogluddite at January 21, 2010 03:42 PM (JwmYb)

126

@127,

Hell Ya! If I would have known is was going be like this, I would have bought a new Big Screen T.V. and year supply of popcorn!

Posted by: Jimi at January 21, 2010 03:43 PM (fqxV7)

127 Pelosi reminds me of a sour, dried out lemon. I find it amazing that she sits two heartbeats from the Presidency. That's what you get when you vote Democrat I guess. Scoop Jackson, Hubert Humphrey....hell even JFK must be ashamed of what's become of their party.

Posted by: LGoPs at January 21, 2010 03:43 PM (tm/sN)

128

BTW, I thought female-mimicking Terminators were supposed to be hot?

Posted by: andycanuck at January 21, 2010 03:44 PM (2qU2d)

129 Drunk, botoxed and stupid is no way to go through life.

Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at January 21, 2010 03:45 PM (KYny9)

130 I can see their destiny ... no f*cking job in 2010, 2012, etc.

Posted by: nativeaz@yahoo.com at January 21, 2010 03:45 PM (maxwK)

131 Yeah, I realize Obama and his party are playing roles in this, too, but really, this one woman is determined to ride this country like Slim Pickens on a nuclear bomb-- all the way in, hootin' & hollerin', to the final devastation.

She's the Scruntinator.

Posted by: nickless at January 21, 2010 03:46 PM (MMC8r)

132 It's in our nature to destroy ourselves.

Posted by: President Tooncinator at January 21, 2010 03:46 PM (W+E+o)

133

The key now is, to focus back on the Republicans, and to not let any of the RINO's get rolled.

 

Posted by: Jimi at January 21, 2010 03:47 PM (fqxV7)

134 They can't help it. It is gambling addiction for the arrogant.

Posted by: Rodent Freikorps at January 21, 2010 03:47 PM (dQdrY)

135

Nancy Pelosi. Popularity Rating 0.0

Harry Reid: Has no popularity rating.

Posted by: LGoPs at January 21, 2010 03:47 PM (tm/sN)

136

That said, the Republicans CAN object the bills that come in as exceeding the limits imposed by the Byrd Rule

The bill is 2000 pages long. Each line can be challanged under the Bird Rule one at a time by individual Rep Senators, one at a time.  They can this force a vote to overrule the chair on each ruling (takes 60 to overrule).

The Byrd Rule was designed by Byrd to prevent the first healthcare bill from being brought with reconcilliation.

It will not work. The republicans could tie the thing up until 2012 under reconcilliation. That is why they will not use it.

Posted by: Vic at January 21, 2010 03:48 PM (QrA9E)

137
B+

Posted by: sickinmass at January 21, 2010 03:48 PM (Dxfei)

138 Have the Dems followed a lot of rules, lately?

Posted by: Rodent Freikorps at January 21, 2010 03:49 PM (dQdrY)

139 Posted by: sherlock at January 21, 2010 07:40 PM (jdXw+)

-------------------

Financial genius money wiz famous New York Times columnist Yale/MIT graduate Nobel Prize winning Princeton professor economist thought Barack was teh One.

HAHAHAHAHAHA, yo Nobel Prize committee, I saved a nickel last week by using my own tote bag at the grocery store, I can haz prize?

Posted by: arhooley at January 21, 2010 03:49 PM (6GjHP)

140

Vic,

It certainly is a pleasure....Good Day to You Sir!

Posted by: Jimi at January 21, 2010 03:49 PM (fqxV7)

141
Think about it. If health care reform is killed tonight, what will happen?

The Republican party is putting 0 effort into winning. So the only motivator for people other than their base to vote for Republicans is the Democrats radical agenda.

Plus, and here's the kicker, the Democrats can go into this campaign season claiming the Republicans 'killed' health care reform and play the class warfare game. They'll remind people the reason they're still paying very high premiums is because of the Republicans and the Republican's friends, the Big Insurance lobby. It will resonate with a lot of people.


Posted by: This is boner at January 21, 2010 03:49 PM (6wUpV)

142 142 Have the Dems followed a lot of rules, lately?

Does the law of unintended consequences count?

Posted by: Peaches at January 21, 2010 03:50 PM (9Wv2j)

143 This is strange posturing.  The Democrats have been handed a gift to back off their socialist agenda through the advent of the special election of Brown.  Smart politicians would scale back their agenda and then push for what they could get and still maintain majority status for the mid-terms.  Pushing hell bent on this will cause more damage than they can possibly imagine come November.

Posted by: CDR M at January 21, 2010 03:51 PM (F9LAD)

144

@145,

 

That theory only works if the economy is rip-roaring in either November 2010 or 2012!

American's vote the pocket book, always have-always will!

Posted by: Jimi at January 21, 2010 03:53 PM (fqxV7)

145 Does the law of unintended consequences count?

Posted by: Peaches at January 21, 2010 07:50 PM (9Wv2j)

That is a universal law. Not the same.

Posted by: Rodent Freikorps at January 21, 2010 03:53 PM (dQdrY)

146 They'll remind people the reason they're still paying very high premiums is because of the Republicans
------------------

that's exactly the stink I smelled wafting out of the White House in early remarks. "We came to save you, but the republicans crucified us."

Repubs had better get messaging about the bill they'd pass -- tort reform, portability, etc.

Posted by: arhooley at January 21, 2010 03:53 PM (6GjHP)

147
The entire nation breathed a sigh of relief thinking this thing was finally dead.

Wow - the democrats really don't care about what a majority of Americans think.  (They will come November.)

The Democrats really think this is all about them and the legacy of dear leader:
They must create a socialist welfare state without the permission of the American people.  Left-wing historicans are watching and handing out grades.




Posted by: pre paid sex monster at January 21, 2010 03:53 PM (0fzsA)

148 This is like another A330 Airbus high flying aircraft coming in for a landing wheels up. This should be entertaining. Lets watch the Sparks fly!

Posted by: mystry at January 21, 2010 03:53 PM (kmgIE)

149

WE NEED SOMEONE TO START PASSING OUT

THE SILVER BULLETS, WOODEN STAKES,

OR GARLIC!

Posted by: Barry McCockinner at January 21, 2010 03:54 PM (JaiDJ)

150

Maybe they want to give their members a chance to cast a "no" to kill the bill for Nov.  They would have voted "no" after they voted "yes".

But their radical marxist supporters, e.g., union members, probably would force them over the cliff before they could swerve away.

Get the popcorn.  This will be interesting.

Posted by: scoob at January 21, 2010 03:54 PM (T7+JL)

151

geez, that old slapper's got huge tits huh..

 

Posted by: the internet at January 21, 2010 03:54 PM (AsMLJ)

152 @145  The Democrats can go into this campaign season claiming the Republicans 'killed' health care reform

We can only hope. 

Posted by: pep at January 21, 2010 03:55 PM (0K3p3)

153

American's vote the pocket book, always have-always will!


Yes, true. But as I said the Republicans are doing almost nothing to tell people who's responsible for this worsening economic mess we're in.

Posted by: This is boner at January 21, 2010 03:55 PM (fFl1M)

154

@155,

If you unleased those Feed-Bags, she might be stepping on them instead of us? 

Posted by: Jimi at January 21, 2010 03:57 PM (fqxV7)

155 Hold my beer and watch this!

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at January 21, 2010 03:57 PM (aX0Vx)

156 Palosi must have not been notified that her House Seat is also on a slippery slope. I hope a mudslide carries her out to the Bay. I can hear it now.   MY Face, MY FACE!

Posted by: mystry at January 21, 2010 03:58 PM (kmgIE)

157 I dunno.  Botox keeps your face from sagging, so.....

Posted by: pep at January 21, 2010 03:58 PM (0K3p3)

158 @155- And a huge as@ to match.

Posted by: LAsue at January 21, 2010 03:59 PM (gIrH3)

159 LET THEM PASS IT!  NOVEMBER WILL BE A BLOODBATH AND THE DEMOCRATS WILL BE IN A POLITICAL WILDERNESS FOR 40 YEARS!

Posted by: GarandFan at January 21, 2010 07:10 PM (ZQBnQ)


And we'll still be stuck with the economy-killing, totalitarian POS, which fits in nicely with the government takeover of businesses....

Oh, wait. Did I miss the repeal of FDR's giveaways, or LBJ's?

All this "bring it on" crap fills me with dread. It assumes that what is done -- giveaways to the voting masses, who still haven't caught on to what's really going on -- can be undone. Which it can't.

The President-for-Life and his goons will be in control whether we like it or not.

Posted by: Chapeau du Tinfoil at January 21, 2010 03:59 PM (HbUsy)

160

It certainly is a pleasure....Good Day to You Sir!

And goodnight to you as well. I think I will be deparing soon myself.

Posted by: Vic at January 21, 2010 04:00 PM (QrA9E)

161 Left-wing historicans are watching and handing out grades.

That is literally true.

Posted by: Peaches at January 21, 2010 04:01 PM (9Wv2j)

162

@157,

Yes, true, but the blame BOOOOOSH isn't working anymore, and when we start talking about taxes in hard times, Republican have a clear advantage. All they have to do is not let the DemonRats and the Media define the debate. It is too early for all that.

It's taking a beautiful woman on a first date....if you get her in the sack...you don't wanna Blow your Wad too early...

You Feelin Me?

Posted by: Jimi at January 21, 2010 04:01 PM (fqxV7)

163 Okay, really basic question. The Repubs did draft some little bill on their own and go through the motion -- strictly pro-forma of course since it hadn't a chance in hell -- of submitting it for the House and Senate agendas, no?

Or do all bills have to come out of committees, or can they just come from caucuses?

Posted by: arhooley at January 21, 2010 04:01 PM (6GjHP)

164 She knows that once Obamacare is burrowed in like a tick, America will move from being a center-right country to a centre-left country like Canada.

Ha!  Thanks to BOTW, I discovered that Huffington Post linked to the Hitler video.  That explains the asshattery in the posts there.

Posted by: logprof at January 21, 2010 04:01 PM (gJL6J)

165 It assumes that what is done -- giveaways to the voting masses, who still haven't caught on to what's really going on -- can be undone.

No, it recognizes the fact that people have caught on.  If they hadn't, we'd be watching the coronation of Sen. Coakley now.  They just can't do it now.  This is for the consumption of the holdouts in the Fuehrerbunker.

Posted by: pep at January 21, 2010 04:02 PM (0K3p3)

166 Just when I think the week can't get any better I see Megyn Kelly is back on O'Rielly tonight.

Posted by: Countrysquire at January 21, 2010 04:03 PM (MNxpu)

167 Who gives a shit about the voters! I say, do it anyway!

Posted by: King Charles I at January 21, 2010 04:04 PM (WHpnp)

168
This is a smokescreen to hide what they are actually going to try to do.

Unfortunately I think it's just a ruse so they won't lose their base. The Democrats are in quite the predicament: if they shelve, their base will sit home in November, if they ram it through, they lose in November.

Posted by: This is boner at January 21, 2010 04:04 PM (6wUpV)

169

Goodnight all time to call it a day.

 

Posted by: Vic at January 21, 2010 04:05 PM (QrA9E)

170 Some times you can't unfuck something.

Posted by: Rodent Freikorps at January 21, 2010 04:06 PM (dQdrY)

171 More Wizard of Oz tricks from the communist party.  It's all a show.  They have no way to pull this off.  They will come out next week and tell their lefty loon base:  "We tried, but those racist tea-baggers in Massachusetts stopped us!"

Posted by: Paul Revere at January 21, 2010 04:07 PM (PRy9p)

172
If we don't win a chamber in November, we're fucked.

The Democrats have an ace up their sleeves: The Census


Posted by: This is boner at January 21, 2010 04:07 PM (6wUpV)

173 Passing this thing is essential for Dem success in November. It's now very necessary to tell the knuckleheads to fuck off, to really rub their faces in it. In any case, in a short while the knuckleheads will hoot and holler if anyone tries to take away their free medical care.

Pass the thing. Fuck the knuckleheads.

Posted by: Tumescent Republican at January 21, 2010 04:07 PM (3aoVt)

174 Good night, Vic!

Posted by: logprof at January 21, 2010 04:08 PM (gJL6J)

175
"The Republicans killed health care" - 70% of this nation will cheer!


Posted by: pre paid sex monster at January 21, 2010 04:09 PM (0fzsA)

176 --aaaaaand we welcome ergie!

Posted by: logprof at January 21, 2010 04:09 PM (gJL6J)

177 Perfect. They've learned nothing. Let them keep down this path of self destruction.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 21, 2010 04:09 PM (78dr7)

178 Are Pelosi's boobs real?

Posted by: Indy at January 21, 2010 04:10 PM (iDOIJ)

179

OT

Has anyone seen this video of Arlen Specter telling Michelle Bachmann to "act like a lady"? Son of an arrogant bitch.

Posted by: maddogg at January 21, 2010 04:10 PM (cN9P9)

180

You Feelin Me?

Sure, brah. But we still have a Republican party whose afraid to speak up about anything...the insane debt, the recession, unemployment, voter fraud, rights for Al Qaeda, the CIA being prosecuted, etc.

Posted by: This is boner at January 21, 2010 04:10 PM (6wUpV)

181 November 2008: The people have spoken!  They want change!  52%!!!11!!1!

January 2010: Fuck the people!

Posted by: Turdescent Democrat at January 21, 2010 04:11 PM (gJL6J)

182

OT

I thought Fox got rid of Marc Hill, but he's on O Reilly again.

Posted by: kansas at January 21, 2010 04:12 PM (Wwi5M)

183

Has anyone seen this video of Arlen Specter telling Michelle Bachmann to "act like a lady"? Son of an arrogant bitch.

Posted by: maddogg at January 21, 2010 08:10 PM (cN9P9)

I said earlier that she should have replied by asking if he'd ever been mistaken for a man.

Posted by: LGoPs at January 21, 2010 04:12 PM (v/rEn)

184
Such a battle is hardly a good sign for the mid-term elections in November. Massachusetts could prove to be an omen.

Posted by: sickinmass at January 21, 2010 04:12 PM (Dxfei)

185 The Democrats have an ace up their sleeves: The Census

Posted by: This is boner at January 21, 2010 08:07 PM (6wUpV)

You keep saying that, but how can it possibly affect the November 2010 elections?  It won't even be tabulated by then.

Posted by: Peaches at January 21, 2010 04:13 PM (9Wv2j)

186

154

That worked out really well for me.

Posted by: John F'n Kerry at January 21, 2010 04:13 PM (pfStM)

187

Are Pelosi's boobs real?

Pelosi is a real boob.

Posted by: huerfano at January 21, 2010 04:14 PM (kJLH9)

188
How long has Arlen Specter been in there?  I would have told him to go fuck himself.  I am sick to death of these dried up congress-for-life elitists.  It's time for them to go.  Arlen Specter represents tired old men with tired old ideas.  FUCK OFF.
We need an army of Scott Browns taking back our nation.


Posted by: pre paid sex monster at January 21, 2010 04:15 PM (0fzsA)

189

Pelosi lying in a ditch with a Ford 250's tire tracks over her back.

A double-plus

Posted by: TexasJew at January 21, 2010 04:15 PM (dcKUM)

190

I said earlier that she should have replied by asking if he'd ever been mistaken for a man.

She should have stood up and kicked him in his shriveled peanut sack then stuck the heel of her pump in his eye.

Posted by: maddogg at January 21, 2010 04:15 PM (cN9P9)

191 You sound like some right wing extremist.

Thank you.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at January 21, 2010 04:15 PM (OkT2m)

192 This crazy-ass women is extremely dangerous and self destructive. Any day now I looks for someone to drag her out in a straight jacket screaming and slobbering.

Posted by: rplat at January 21, 2010 04:16 PM (G1ArL)

193 @53 Exactly! haha, they are no longer drinking kool aid; they're comet jumpers

Posted by: ~d at January 21, 2010 04:16 PM (uTknY)

194 If they pull this off -- and they probably won't, but if they do -- this will seriously screw the conservative movement for generations at least and probably for the life of the country.

Yes, the Republican party or some other "right wing" party will still exist, but it will move the center so far left, like Britain or Canada, that you could be forgiven for thinking the right wing party is essentially equivalent to today's Blue Dog Democrats.

At best.

So I wouldn't say, "Bring it!" so much as I'd work to defeat it. Don't rely on the mid-terms.

Sure, you'd win them, but it would be a pyrrhic victory.

Posted by: Christoph at January 21, 2010 04:16 PM (0fq7b)

195 200,000 new Haitian votes are waiting to push it over the finish line.

Posted by: TexasJew at January 21, 2010 04:16 PM (dcKUM)

196
the knuckleheads will hoot and holler if anyone tries to take away their free medical care.

hahaha, eggmcmuffin

lol @ 'free'

Posted by: This is boner at January 21, 2010 04:17 PM (6wUpV)

197 Has anyone seen this video of Arlen Specter telling Michelle Bachmann to "act like a lady"?

Even though "act like a lady" in the context of a discussion about politics means "shut up and let the men talk", don't wait for the feminists to say anything.  No matter how many children she's borne, "she's not a woman, she's a Republican" applies.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at January 21, 2010 04:17 PM (OkT2m)

198
Government-run tax-payer-funded welfare-state health care is A   ----------
TIRED OLD IDEA, PEDALED BY TIRED OLD ELITISTS.


Posted by: pre paid sex monster at January 21, 2010 04:18 PM (0fzsA)

199 "Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidise it."
-- Ronald Reagan

Posted by: logprof at January 21, 2010 04:18 PM (gJL6J)

200

184

Sure, brah. But we still have a Republican party whose afraid to speak up about anything...the insane debt, the recession, unemployment, voter fraud, rights for Al Qaeda, the CIA being prosecuted, etc.

That's because Republicans share culpability for some of those things, specifically the insane debt.

Posted by: The Q at January 21, 2010 04:18 PM (pfStM)

201

OK, which of you morons is responsible for this ad?  It's sounds exactly what is so often posted here, with the 1,2,3 meme and everything.  From Hotair:

 

A new print ad -- sponsored by the conservative American Future Fund and running in the print editions of Politico and Roll Call -- is the first direct attempt we've seen by Republicans to directly leverage the Massachusetts special election against House and Senate Democrats contemplating retirement.

"1. Run. 2. Lose. 3. Get Trashed by the White House," reads the ad. "Are you willing to sacrifice your career for Obama?"

 

Posted by: runningrn at January 21, 2010 04:19 PM (CfmlF)

202 Palosi does nor care about anything else but Healthcare. This is the Zenith of her political career. That she is commiting political suicide for her and the Democratic Party, is irrelevant. This MUST happen. She will keep trying until someone picks her off the floor. A true Liberal zealot and torchburner.

Posted by: mystry at January 21, 2010 04:20 PM (kmgIE)

203 205  Wow!  I like it!

Posted by: Peaches at January 21, 2010 04:21 PM (9Wv2j)

204 This is turning out to be one action-packed Trek episode.

Posted by: ParisParamus at January 21, 2010 04:22 PM (NPtVh)

205

OT

HAHAHAHA Bathtub Boy is comparing today's Supreme Court ruling to Dred Scott.

Posted by: The Q at January 21, 2010 04:23 PM (pfStM)

206 Jeeze, you ever hear of a trial balloon.

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at January 21, 2010 04:23 PM (QXKjZ)

207 If they pass it in the Senate with 51, then we can kill it with 51.  

Posted by: Scoob at January 21, 2010 04:24 PM (T7+JL)

208

Do you guys have any idea what this is doing to pudding futures? 

Thru the roof!

Posted by: Hammer at January 21, 2010 04:24 PM (GkYyh)

209 I guess it's once the Dem's are sitting on the crapper, they're committed to going all the way...  no matter how much it is stuck or how bad it stinks or hurts... 

Posted by: drfredc at January 21, 2010 04:25 PM (ljMiA)

210 Rachel Maddow couldn't hear the Voice of the People above all the loud muff-chewing.

Posted by: TexasJew at January 21, 2010 04:25 PM (dcKUM)

211 206 Palosi does nor care about anything else but Healthcare. This is the Zenith of her political career. That she is commiting political suicide for her and the Democratic Party, is irrelevant. This MUST happen. She will keep trying until someone picks her off the floor. A true Liberal zealot and torchburner.   Plus she's got to be thinking that her time as Speaker is running out.  She's been such an abysmal failure, Worst Speaker Evah, that she's probably decided she's  going to go out in a blaze of gory glory.  Mark my words.

Posted by: runningrn at January 21, 2010 04:26 PM (CfmlF)

212 The Repubs have already torched her once on a Motion to Recommit - they could easily pull in six or so Dems with a reasonable package of low cost reforms.  Then the Dims in the Senate would have to block it.

Posted by: Jean at January 21, 2010 04:26 PM (xCBQ4)

213 I miss Bill Clinton.  As slavish as he was to the polls, at least he would have changed tack in the face of this voter anger and opposition.

10 times out of ten I would rather have a president who was looking out just for his own ass over ignoring the people 100% for his ideology.

Posted by: logprof at January 21, 2010 04:26 PM (gJL6J)

214

Bullshit.

It's over.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 21, 2010 04:26 PM (P33XN)

215 195 You sound like some right wing extremist.

Thank you.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at January 21, 2010 08:15 PM (OkT2m)

 

Your ass won't be smiling for very long honey. Your ass is goin' on the domestic terrorist list so blow that out yo ass!!!

Posted by: Janet Napolitano at January 21, 2010 04:26 PM (N54zd)

216 This Heath Care Business would have easily passed if Obama was a leader. All he knew how to do was the only thing he knows how to do, give a campaign speech. A little armtwisting, etc would have done it. All he knew was Chicago Politics. BRIBERY. He is the wrong man at the wrong time. He knows no other way or course.

Posted by: mystry at January 21, 2010 04:28 PM (kmgIE)

217

Child (Nancy Pelosi): I want a new bike (healthcare)

Mom (American Public): Now you know Sweetie, we can't afford a new bike, and besides that, your current bike is working perfectly.  In fact, it's the envy of the neighborhood (other nations)

Child: But Mom, I really, really want a new bike. 

Mom: Now Sweetie, look, you can't have a new bike.

Child: But Mom, I..

Mom: Look, if I hear one more word about this you're going to sit in timeout!

Child: Mom, I want a new bike!

Mom: Okay, you come with me. Now sit down in this chair and don't move until I tell you that you can. Do you understand me? (Scott Brown election)

Child: Yes, Mom. (Nancy doesn't have the votes to pass healthcare)

*10 minutes later*

Mom: Are you going to be good now like I asked you to be?

Child: Yes, Mom. I love you (We hear you the American voters)

Mom: I love you too, now run and play.

*10 minutes later*

Child: Mom, can I talk with you for a minute?

Mom: Yes, Sweetie.

Child: I want a new bike...

Posted by: conscious, but numb at January 21, 2010 04:29 PM (Vu6sl)

218 If this isn't a sure sign that these leftists aren't hardcore Commies, nothing is.  This is their crown jewel.  All other things take a backseat.  They are hell bent on passing this disaster that 2/3rds of the country doesn't want, while the entire economy is crumbling around them.  Proof positive that Communists are running this country.  There is no other explanation.

Posted by: Twinks at January 21, 2010 04:29 PM (LeFbD)

219 Pelosi is the bolt-on boob botox liposuctioned and face lifted embodiment of everything I loath about leftards. I have not a shread of empathy or feeling for them. To me, they don't even rate human status. They are the enemy of my country, nothing more.

Posted by: maddogg at January 21, 2010 04:29 PM (cN9P9)

220 I think that there are to many in the House and Senate that are ready to walk away from this breathing a sigh of relief.  That video of Weiner says it all - when that guy is saying that we need to back off and listen it's over.  So yeah Nancy might still be going full retard but I think that the 51 in the Senate would be hard to find not to mention the House where Weiner is walking away.

Posted by: Roadking at January 21, 2010 04:30 PM (JpfXc)

221
re: Nancy's boobies

people were commenting on the night the House stayed really late and voted for the bill that Nancy wasn't wearing a bra and her boobs were hanging kinda low...

and uneven.

Posted by: This is boner at January 21, 2010 04:32 PM (fFl1M)

222

Posted by: maddogg at January 21, 2010 08:29 PM (cN9P9)

Hear! Hear!

Posted by: LGoPs at January 21, 2010 04:33 PM (tm/sN)

223

Are Pelosi's boobs real?

Those aren't her boobs.  She's had so many face lifts, those are her ass cheeks.  They just moved them to the front, because they looked really out of place on her back.

Posted by: wiserbud at January 21, 2010 04:33 PM (EW49d)

224 225
re: Nancy's boobies

people were commenting on the night the House stayed really late and voted for the bill that Nancy wasn't wearing a bra and her boobs were hanging kinda low...

and uneven.

Posted by: This is boner at January 21, 2010 08:32 PM (fFl1M)

Well thanks for that mental image. I just threw-up a little bit in my mouth!

Posted by: conscious, but numb at January 21, 2010 04:34 PM (Vu6sl)

225 OK, which of you morons is responsible for this ad?  It's sounds exactly what is so often posted here, with the 1,2,3 meme and everything. 
-------------------

If it had been from one of us, it might have been more like

1 - Support Obama

2 - ???

3 - Permanent Democrat majority!

Posted by: arhooley at January 21, 2010 04:35 PM (6GjHP)

226

217

10 times out of ten I would rather have a president who was looking out just for his own ass over ignoring the people 100% for his ideology.

I don't know if 10 out of 10 is the best idea - if it was, the Iraq War would've been lost.

Posted by: The Q at January 21, 2010 04:35 PM (pfStM)

227 Nutzy is finished. She'll probably still be in Congress, but that speakership is gone with the wind. The only question is whether the dems strip it from her now, after the election when the almost lose their majority, or if the repubs win the House. There is no scenario I can see where Nutzy keeps her position in the long term.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 21, 2010 04:36 PM (P33XN)

228 Baaaahhhhhaaaannnnnaawwwwaaaaa....... Bring it Bitch. 2010 we will be nailing the coffins shut.... 2012 we burn all the coffins with all the socialists in them. 2014 we take those ashes and feed them to surviving socialist family members. 2016 we have super majoritys and roll everything back the democrats passed during the Obama administration. 2018 we start the reversal of welfare 2020 we start weeding people of Social Security 2022 the economy is booming beyond belief 2024 the democratic party is no more 2026 taxes in America are at the lowest level since the IRS was formed. 2028 The IRS is abolished. 2030 America makes Canada & Mexico the 51st & 52nd state. 2032 Major oil finds in Canada & Mexico spell the end of the OPEC era.

Posted by: izoneguy at January 21, 2010 04:36 PM (4B2Bd)

229 I think that there are to many in the House and Senate that are ready to walk away from this breathing a sigh of relief.
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One of the extra bonus goodies on the MSNBC meltdown was Rachel Maddow's interview with Ezra Klein. He said he senses "exhaustion" among the Hill Dems.

Posted by: arhooley at January 21, 2010 04:37 PM (6GjHP)

230 214 Rachel Maddow couldn't hear the Voice of the People above all the loud muff-chewing.

Posted by: TexasJew

Please don't give loud muffchewing a bad name, Brother.

Posted by: Countrysquire at January 21, 2010 04:37 PM (MNxpu)

231 ""Pelosi is the bolt-on boob botox liposuctioned and face lifted embodiment of everything I loath about leftards""


Maybe she would change her tune if along with her death panels they had "boob" panels. You know, some group of people looking at her and saying " yikes, you're apparently losing the battle with age there, and dancing around at sea hag age level, so um...time for you to give up the implants for some hot young chick that needs them"

Posted by: Berserker at January 21, 2010 04:37 PM (gWHrG)

232 Posted by: The Q at January 21, 2010 08:35 PM (pfStM)

--Good point.  9 times out of ten!

Posted by: logprof at January 21, 2010 04:39 PM (gJL6J)

233 Another question: Can the Dems throw Pelosi out any time they want and elect a new Speaker? Or does she have a "term"?

Posted by: arhooley at January 21, 2010 04:40 PM (6GjHP)

234 I think megyn kelly lost too much of the babt weight

Posted by: dananjcon at January 21, 2010 04:40 PM (twOMi)

235 I think megyn kelly lost too much of the babt weight
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oh dear me there's no rational conversation to be had when the morons are tuned in to Fox.

Okay, I THINK SHE SHOULD CUT HER BANGS. I surrender.

Posted by: arhooley at January 21, 2010 04:42 PM (6GjHP)

236 Pelosi is not the borg, but rather the

Porg

Posted by: ParisParamus at January 21, 2010 04:43 PM (NPtVh)

237
I'm gonna take a guess and say there is a procedure for them to shitcan their Speaker.

Posted by: This is boner at January 21, 2010 04:43 PM (fFl1M)

238 Time to release the flaming Ugg boots of vengence!

Posted by: TexasJew at January 21, 2010 04:44 PM (dcKUM)

Posted by: ParisParamus at January 21, 2010 04:44 PM (NPtVh)

240 izoneguy, I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Posted by: RarestRX at January 21, 2010 04:45 PM (rmNST)

241 238 I think megyn kelly lost too much of the babt weight

Posted by: dananjcon at January 21, 2010 08:40 PM (twOMi)

I do too but I would still hit it!!!!

Posted by: Tipsy McStagger, somewhere down in Texas at January 21, 2010 04:46 PM (N54zd)

242

That's a good question about the speakership. I think the dems could take her position away whenever they want to, but they probably won't. I don't know what the rules are. I don't think they'll kneecap her now because it would send an even stronger message that they're panicking. Better to just wait until the asswhipping in November and then toss her to the curb.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 21, 2010 04:46 PM (P33XN)

243 Yeah bangs... IWBIMB

Posted by: dananjcon at January 21, 2010 04:46 PM (twOMi)

244 237 Another question: Can the Dems throw Pelosi out any time they want and elect a new Speaker? Or does she have a "term"?

Posted by: arhooley at January 21, 2010 08:40 PM (6GjHP)

I don't know, but I remember when the lunatic dems held two "no-confidence" votes against Bush, which are entirely meaningless in our system. It was legislative air-guitar performed by a gaggle of spazzes.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at January 21, 2010 04:48 PM (A46hP)

245

From the Politico via Allah: http://is.gd/6LUBW

This made me chuckle: 

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) both tried to put a good face on the obvious chaos on Thursday, promising to press on.




Posted by: Countrysquire at January 21, 2010 04:48 PM (MNxpu)

246
OT:  okay, way disappointed in the Bones episode tonight.  'Pudding' is going all Oliver Stone on us.

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 21, 2010 04:48 PM (g5M0N)

247 Like exactly WHO, would like to become the new Speaker of the House. Any takers fellow Democrats?

Posted by: mystry at January 21, 2010 04:49 PM (kmgIE)

248

I don't know, but I remember when the lunatic dems held two "no-confidence" votes against Bush, which are entirely meaningless in our system. It was legislative air-guitar Masterbation performed by a gaggle of spazzes.

FIFY

Posted by: maddogg at January 21, 2010 04:49 PM (cN9P9)

249
@251  Hoyer, most likely.  Not much of an improvement, but at least the botox hasn't destroyed his brainz.

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 21, 2010 04:51 PM (g5M0N)

250

She she's just absorbed all the awesone gravity-bending power and intergalactic x-ray vision that the Speakership gave Denny Hastert

Posted by: TexasJew at January 21, 2010 04:51 PM (dcKUM)

251

One of the extra bonus goodies on the MSNBC meltdown was Rachel Maddow's interview with Ezra Klein. He said he senses "exhaustion" among the Hill Dems.

It's from getting teabagged.........heh.

Posted by: LGoPs at January 21, 2010 04:51 PM (tm/sN)

252
haha, remember when town councils in a few liberal hot-beds all over the country were holding silly war crimes trials and finding Bush and Cheney guilty?

I can't believe we lost to these assholes.

Posted by: This is boner at January 21, 2010 04:51 PM (6wUpV)

253

@211

"If they pass it in the Senate with 51, then we can kill it with 51. "

Not while Obama is in office we can't.   He can veto any rollback that reaches his desk, and it takes 2/3 majorities in both chambers to override a veto. 

Posted by: JPS at January 21, 2010 04:51 PM (cY5p+)

254

"Are you willing to sacrifice your career for Obama?"

Well, let's see: I'm in my late 40s, so I can stretch my career as it is now for four more terms if I play my cards right. The only true promotion would be getting elected president -- but there are about sixty other senators and thirty governors with those aspirations, and I'd only have four or five shots at that prize, so I'm asking myself if I have the charisma, the stamina, the connections and the resources to compete against all of them and to see a campaign all the way through. In short, do I realistically have a shot at that? Probably not. I could accept a cabinet position, but that would definitely be temporary.

I'm eventually going back into the private sector some day. With that in mind, I'm looking around and seeing a president committed to and plausibly able to transform the most powerful elements of society according to his vision. And if I'm on board with that, if I help him out now, the rewards down the road could approach the infinite.

So you're asking me if I'm willing to sacrifice my career for Obama. My answer is that Obama is the right president at the right time for me, and this has actually been Plan A all along.

Posted by: Senator X at January 21, 2010 04:52 PM (Vl5GH)

255 OT:  okay, way disappointed in the Bones episode tonight.  'Pudding' is going all Oliver Stone on us.

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 21, 2010 08:48 PM (g5M0N)

--Glad I missed it.  I just liked the title.

Posted by: logprof at January 21, 2010 04:52 PM (gJL6J)

256 Steny Hoyer, alas, is not more. He got his tail stuck in a glue trap while he was out stealing some cheese from Farmer Jones.

Posted by: TexasJew at January 21, 2010 04:53 PM (dcKUM)

257
2/3 of the chambers will be running scared if this shit-sandwich manages to get through, don't worry.

I'm more concerned about the lefties martyring Wee Wee, myself.  They're fucking crazy and are not above doing that.

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 21, 2010 04:53 PM (g5M0N)

258 I REALLY don't think reconciliation will happen -it can only be used to raise taxes, but not to provide ANY benefits. It's just politically impossible. Pelosi announced today the bill is dead, or came as close to saying it as she could. The only people talking about reconciliation are the dead-enders.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 21, 2010 04:53 PM (QECjC)

259 Wait, not the Borg, not the Porg, but rather the

Porkg
FREEDOM IS FUTILE.

Posted by: ParisParamus at January 21, 2010 04:54 PM (NPtVh)

260 Damn, Dang, I was so looking forward to that episode.

Posted by: Tommy Gunnar at January 21, 2010 04:54 PM (rQTdM)

261

Anyone know what Reid's reelection numbers are in Navada today?

Posted by: mystry at January 21, 2010 04:54 PM (kmgIE)

262 Anyone else getting a KLM ad on their page?

Funny thing is, since I'm in Canada I'm getting it in French.

Posted by: logprof at January 21, 2010 04:55 PM (gJL6J)

263

Posted by: ParisParamus at January 21, 2010 08:54 PM (NPtVh)

Enough with that. Somebody was doing that the other day and Peaches shot him in his nutsack.

Posted by: TexasJew at January 21, 2010 04:56 PM (dcKUM)

264 I think Barry will run for the speakership. Why not? He can show up wearing his Nobel Peace Prize medal. If anyone points out that he's, you know, the president, he'll just assume a negro dialect and tell everyone he's Congressman Harry Oklama from California.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at January 21, 2010 04:56 PM (P33XN)

265
KLM?

Klingons Like Michelle

Posted by: This is boner at January 21, 2010 04:57 PM (fFl1M)

266 266 Anyone else getting a KLM ad on their page?

Funny thing is, since I'm in Canada I'm getting it in French.

Posted by: logprof at January 21, 2010 08:55 PM (gJL6J)

Since I'm black, I'm getting it in Al Sharpton.

Posted by: TexasJew at January 21, 2010 04:58 PM (dcKUM)

267 I'm trying to frame my message for Sen Webb tomorrow. I think I'll start with saying that I'm pleased with his speaking out about not voting on health care until brown is seated. Then I may suggest politely that if he votes pro in reconciliation that Va will make Mass look like Haite Ashbury in 1969

Posted by: dagny at January 21, 2010 04:58 PM (+y5i5)

268

Pelosi is much worse than the Borg. Compared to her, they're really kind of nice.

Posted by: LGoPs at January 21, 2010 04:58 PM (tm/sN)

269 Are you fuckin shittin me?

Posted by: tdpwells at January 21, 2010 04:58 PM (Ei3oZ)

270 They can defund it, without Jug Ears.

Posted by: TexasJew at January 21, 2010 04:59 PM (dcKUM)

271
@264 It's a good one, Tommy.  Booth is still on the side of the angels.  And he gets to kick a little ass, to that's cool.

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 21, 2010 05:00 PM (g5M0N)

272 No KLM ad but apparently I can get ripped in 4 weeks without steroids and there is a special tooth whitening trick I don't know about.

Posted by: dagny at January 21, 2010 05:00 PM (+y5i5)

273 I'd hit it.

Posted by: M-220 Wire-Guide Missle at January 21, 2010 05:00 PM (pHWZm)

274 oh for god's sakes Newt is considering a run.

Posted by: arhooley at January 21, 2010 05:03 PM (6GjHP)

275
Did Ace get kenneled at the vet, or did the trip to Bawwwstin put a lot of mats in his fur?

Or maybe he really DID hook up with Hannah G... BWAAAHAHAHAHA!!  Yeah, right.

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 21, 2010 05:04 PM (g5M0N)

276 How scary is M'chelle's Haiti ad? My teenage boy actually yelped when it came on. Ouch. She doesn't have a stylist in her 35 person staff?

Posted by: dagny at January 21, 2010 05:05 PM (+y5i5)

277

@275

I'll watch it regardless 'cause I'm such a fan of Emily Deschanel, IYKWIM.

Posted by: Tommy Gunnar at January 21, 2010 05:06 PM (rQTdM)

278 OK, reconciliation fans, I hate to disappoint you BUT look at the headline on (left-leaning) Politico: Dem health care talks collapsing http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/31836.html My friends, The Chicken is Dead.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 21, 2010 05:06 PM (QECjC)

279

C'mon Nancy,

I double-DOG dare you.

Posted by: Tea Party at January 21, 2010 05:07 PM (Z9Eyk)

280 Now that Brown is on the scene, how much power does Palosi have any more? I bet some fellow congresspeople have told her they have had it. NO MORE Obama Healthcare! What can she do to them now.

Posted by: mystry at January 21, 2010 05:07 PM (kmgIE)

281

I say Republicans lay down and let them pass it.

In 2013 we repeal it. 

Posted by: Tea Party at January 21, 2010 05:09 PM (Z9Eyk)

282 "Since I'm black, I'm getting it in Al Sharpton."

A black Texas Jew?  Holy shit you were cursed!

Posted by: SanFran Conseravtive Polack Midget at January 21, 2010 05:09 PM (xYLUt)

283
I'm such a fan of Emily Deschanel, IYKWIM.

Ahh, yes.  Both the Deschanel sisters are lovely.  Sometimes when the ep is off, I just mute it and wait for her scenes.  The halloween eps are pretty good for her showing lots of body.

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 21, 2010 05:09 PM (g5M0N)

284 They can defund it, without Jug Ears.

Posted by: TexasJew at January 21, 2010 08:59 PM (dcKUM)

Do ya really think they've got the nads for that?

Posted by: Rodent Freikorps at January 21, 2010 05:10 PM (dQdrY)

285 oh for god's sakes Newt is considering a run.

Posted by: arhooley at January 21, 2010 09:03 PM (6GjHP)

That's why he's everywhere you look the last few days, flapping his piehole.  He needs to quit it, he's pissing me off.  And I suspect I'm not alone in that.

Posted by: Peaches at January 21, 2010 05:10 PM (9Wv2j)

286 It's not really your fault, most of you are men.  Men are smart enough to figure out when to fold.  Women, sadly, and I am a woman, usually don't see the door until it hits them in the face and even then, they try to get up and continue the fight.  Ultimately some male has to carry them out, kicking and screaming.  And still, still they entertain the idea that they aren't done forever.   Which is why women give birth and men don't but also the bane of women's existence.  They can't, they won't, they don't know how to just give it up and move on.

Posted by: curious at January 21, 2010 05:11 PM (p302b)

287 280 How scary is M'chelle's Haiti ad? My teenage boy actually yelped when it came on. Ouch. She doesn't have a stylist in her 35 person staff?

Posted by: dagny

That commercial makes me question the wisdom of my purchase of a 65" plasma TV.

Posted by: Countrysquire at January 21, 2010 05:12 PM (MNxpu)

288 A paragraph from Politico.com about another possible way for Libs to get the Zombie Deathcare Bill thru Congress: There was some talk among Senate leadership on Thursday of putting together a letter signed by 51 Democratic senators pledging to pass a cleanup bill if the House would pass the Senate bill. But that effort fizzled when support for it didnÂ’t materialize, insiders said. Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/31836_Page2.html#ixzz0dIrInvoG Obviously, there aren't 51 Senators willing to vote for this thing anymore. That would include voting for reconciliation.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 21, 2010 05:12 PM (QECjC)

289 WARNING: The Office may be jumping the shark as we speak.  I don't wanna spoil it for west coasters, but once you see it you'll know what I mean.  (Those watching it now know exactly what I mean!)

Posted by: logprof at January 21, 2010 05:12 PM (gJL6J)

290
"Since I'm black, I'm getting it in Al Sharpton."

A black Texas Jew?  Holy shit you were cursed!


“You know, you don't look Jewish" he said, “near as I could figger
I had you lamped for a slightly anemic, well-dressed COUNTRY BOYYY!

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 21, 2010 05:12 PM (g5M0N)

291

That's why he's everywhere you look the last few days, flapping his piehole.  He needs to quit it, he's pissing me off.  And I suspect I'm not alone in that.

Posted by: Peaches

I don't mind him as a pundit. That's fine. It's when he puts on a pair of water-wings and heads for the diving board that worries me.

Posted by: Iskandar at January 21, 2010 05:13 PM (doEqS)

292 #280, dagny, wow, that was a scary face. she's on the tube to garner support for 0. they are such a caring couple. bullshit. she looked like a strident hateful annoyed scrunt. they don't even care abt, 0's blood relatives who live in huts in Africa on 10 dollars a year.

Posted by: nyc redneck at January 21, 2010 05:14 PM (EtrGh)

293 @ 282
Per your Politico link:

"There was some talk among Senate leadership on Thursday of putting together a letter signed by 51 Democratic senators pledging to pass a cleanup bill if the House would pass the Senate bill...

Sen. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.) said one possibility involved having the Senate pass the cleanup bill first. But thereÂ’s a question as to whether the Senate can amend a bill that is not yet law, officials said."

Holy shit the Dems are out of control! 

I love it!!!!

Posted by: Billy Jack Hoff at January 21, 2010 05:15 PM (xYLUt)

294 WARNING: The Office may be jumping the shark as we speak.  I don't wanna spoil it for west coasters, but once you see it you'll know what I mean.  (Those watching it now know exactly what I mean!)

Posted by: logprof at January 21, 2010 09:12 PM (gJL6J)

Politically or Plot wise?

Posted by: Editor at January 21, 2010 05:15 PM (YX6i/)

295 I still contend that they don't have 200 votes in the house, so it's just so much verbal masturbation.  Jaw jacking if you will.

Posted by: Countrysquire at January 21, 2010 05:16 PM (MNxpu)

296 289 oh for god's sakes Newt is considering a run.

Posted by: arhooley at January 21, 2010 09:03 PM (6GjHP)

That's why he's everywhere you look the last few days, flapping his piehole.  He needs to quit it, he's pissing me off.  And I suspect I'm not alone in that.

Posted by: Peaches at January 21, 2010 09:10 PM (9Wv2j)

You'r not alone. The day I saw that ad with him sitting next to Nancy was the day that Newt became the enemy.

Posted by: conscious, but numb at January 21, 2010 05:16 PM (Vu6sl)

297

@285

I like your thinking. Could I get your latest DVD?

Posted by: Tommy Gunnar at January 21, 2010 05:17 PM (rQTdM)

298 #290 curious, you can save your kids like that. when you turn into a mamma grizzly bear. i;ve done it. it has a purpose.

Posted by: nyc redneck at January 21, 2010 05:17 PM (EtrGh)

299

Politically or Plot wise?

Posted by: Editor at January 21, 2010 09:15 PM (YX6i/)

--Oh, not political at all.  It kicks in shortly after the opening credits.  You'll see. . . .

Posted by: logprof at January 21, 2010 05:18 PM (gJL6J)

300  That little field trip with Al Sharpton didn't do a lot for me, either, heh heh.  Then there's divorcing the dying (?) wife.  The man needs a wake-up call.

Posted by: Peaches at January 21, 2010 05:19 PM (9Wv2j)

301

I wonder if Michelle is still proud of her country, now that it's pretty resoundingly told her husband to fuck off.

BTW - I am proud of Massachusetts. For the first time in my life.

Posted by: LGoPs at January 21, 2010 05:19 PM (tm/sN)

302 Palin/Brown 2012, anyone? Two of the hottest Republicans in the world, at the moment. I can still picture the campaign ad: "Hi, I'm Scott Brown. I drive a truck!" "Hi, I'm Sarah Palin. I air-assault wolves!"

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 21, 2010 05:20 PM (QECjC)

303

The problem with continually fucking the chicken, is it will eventually cross the road.  If your dick is stuck in it, across you go -- and get run over by a semi.

I can't wait.  String this crap along closer to election day.  Stupid fuckers are going to get what they diserve.

Posted by: bil at January 21, 2010 05:21 PM (ud9U6)

304 "Hi, I'm Scott Brown. I drive a truck!"
"Hi, I'm Sarah Palin. I air-assault wolves!"

Hi, my wife has a giant ass!

Posted by: Barack Hussein at January 21, 2010 05:22 PM (xYLUt)

305 "Hi, I'm Sarah Palin. I air-assault wolves blew off CPAC to get $100,000 for speaking at some ginned-up 'Tea Party' convention!"

fify.  I still like Palin, but I think she's making a huge mistake with that thing.  The more I read about it, the worse it stinks.

Posted by: Peaches at January 21, 2010 05:22 PM (9Wv2j)

306 305

I wonder if Michelle is still proud of her country, now that it's pretty resoundingly told her husband to fuck off.

BTW - I am proud of Massachusetts. For the first time in my life.

Posted by: LGoPs at January 21, 2010 09:19 PM (tm/sN)

Good point!  Is she disappointed that her golden boy is no longer the Messiah and that the majority of Americans now can't stand him?

Posted by: conscious, but numb at January 21, 2010 05:22 PM (Vu6sl)

307

--Oh, not political at all.  It kicks in shortly after the opening credits.  You'll see. . . .

Posted by: logprof at January 21, 2010 09:18 PM (gJL6J)

Jim steps down as co-manager and hands the reigns to Kelly?

Posted by: Editor at January 21, 2010 05:23 PM (YX6i/)

308 Clearly Obama understands the healthcare thing is over - that's why he's looking to change the subject with this out-of-the-blue sudden "need" to punitively tax banks. Thing is: weren't we told for a year now that if healthcare failed, it would "destroy Obama's Presidency?" Well, if it's destroyed, why's he still yapping, damn it?!

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 21, 2010 05:24 PM (QECjC)

309 thereÂ’s a question as to whether the Senate can amend a bill that is not yet law
-------------------

omg they're hilarious.

There's a question as to whether you can drive your car the wrong way down the freeway at 100 mph.

There's a question as to whether you can split an atom with a sledgehammer.

There's a question as to whether you can levitate the Pentagon.

Posted by: arhooley at January 21, 2010 05:24 PM (6GjHP)

310 Wow, between owning the Jello Pudding line and buying out Cadbury, I'm going to have to get some stock in Kraft foods, but mostly for the pudding.

Kraft executives need to die in a fire.  They bought and ruined my favorite brand of mole.

Posted by: John Galt at January 21, 2010 05:24 PM (Ylv1H)

311 Ain't going to happen folks, the libs are done, f*ck them!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at January 21, 2010 05:24 PM (YCvqc)

312 The only thing that can be passed through reconciliation are budgetary items, so there would be no mandates or exemptions.  With reconciliation, what is passed with 51 votes, can be taken away with 51 votes.  And that is what it would take to overide a veto, not 60.  That is the way the "Byrd" rule has set up the reconciliation process.  Also, there is a 5 year window for item passed under the reconciliation process.  Bills passed under reconciliation can not add to the deficit, and it's savings or neutrality must be real not an accounting gimmick. 

Posted by: Opus at January 21, 2010 05:25 PM (IebeI)

313 "The more I read about it, the worse it stinks."

Book Title:  Life and Times of My Snatch.

I'd buy a new book.

Posted by: Charley Tuna at January 21, 2010 05:25 PM (xYLUt)

314 The Supreme Court restored 1st Amendment rights to corporations today. Let's give it back to the Church next!!!

Posted by: Cromagnum at January 21, 2010 05:25 PM (rRlh2)

315
More juicy goodness from the wonderful tired old elitist corruptocrats!

NRO -"Critical Condition"
Forget the 'Cornhusker Kickback': Senate Medicaid Deal a Recipe for Fraud
  

People were rightly upset when they learned about the "Cornhusker Kickback," the deal whereby Sen. Ben Nelson of Nebraska sold his vote in favor of the Senate's health bill in exchange for his state never having to pay for any of the Medicaid expansion in the bill.

However, the biggest problem with the Medicaid expansion in the Senate health bill is not the “Cornhusker Kickback,” but that it leverages an already flawed formula to determine federal payments to state Medicaid programs. The Senate bill would motivate states to invest more resources in recruiting higher income residents into Medicaid, rather than traditionally eligible beneficiaries, including the blind and disabled. The Senate bill also gives richer states a bigger Medicaid bailout than lower income ones. New Hampshire, Maryland, and Connecticut get the biggest handouts, while Mississippi, West Virginia, and Arkansas are short-changed, according to my just-published analysis.


Typical democrat pile.


Posted by: pre paid sex monster at January 21, 2010 05:25 PM (0fzsA)

316
Wow, the only thing left for The Office is to cast Ted McGinley.  That shit is over.

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 21, 2010 05:26 PM (g5M0N)

317 By "destiny" they mean crushing across the board defeat in Nov, wandering the wilderness for the next few decades, loss of union support, and offices stacked floor to ceiling with bags full of hate mail.  That kind of "destiny". 

Hitler in the bunker kind of destiny. 
Japan attacking Pearl Harbor kind of destiny. 
Napoleon at Waterloo kind of destiny. 
Bankers jumping out of windows in 1929 kind of destiny. 
Ford Edsel kind of destiny. 
Sony BetaMax kind of destiny. 
Pet rocks kind of destiny.
Marcia Coakley kind of destiny.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 21, 2010 05:27 PM (1OKre)

318 If GM was still a independant company, I would bet that Scott Brown would have been promised a new GMC truck by now. Since Obama  now owns Government Motors, what are the chances of Scott Brown getting a new GMC truck...OK Obama, lets hear your speech now!

Posted by: mystry at January 21, 2010 05:28 PM (kmgIE)

319

Wow, the only thing left for The Office is to cast Ted McGinley.  That shit is over.

Fuck you. I was on Married, With Children for fucking years before the show tanked.

Posted by: Ted McGinley at January 21, 2010 05:28 PM (P33XN)

320

Jim steps down as co-manager and hands the reigns to Kelly?

Posted by: Editor at January 21, 2010 09:23 PM (YX6i/)

--I should add that it's not exactly, uh, a plot thing either.

Dang Straights is on the right track. . . .

Posted by: logprof at January 21, 2010 05:28 PM (gJL6J)

321

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 21, 2010 09:27 PM (1OKre)

and Milli Vanilli kind of destiny.

Posted by: conscious, but numb at January 21, 2010 05:29 PM (Vu6sl)

322 ok, my lib friends told me that he will reform health care by executive order, with straight faces and martinis in their hands.  I just stand there, why argue cause so far keeping quiet shows i've got way more class.

Posted by: curious at January 21, 2010 05:29 PM (p302b)

323 Liberals are never more dangerous than when they are dead.

Posted by: Rodent Freikorps at January 21, 2010 05:29 PM (dQdrY)

Posted by: maddogg at January 21, 2010 05:30 PM (cN9P9)

325 "The Supreme Court restored 1st Amendment rights to corporations today."

Let me explain to you how this works: you see, the corporations finance Republicans, and then Republicans go out... and the corporations sit there in their... in their corporation buildings, and... and, and see, they're all corporation-y... and they make money.

Posted by: Timm Robbinz at January 21, 2010 05:31 PM (xYLUt)

326 Bitch wouldn't stay down.

Posted by: Ike Turner at January 21, 2010 05:32 PM (1EZ8w)

327 Milli Vanilli kind of destiny

Dood, that's cold, real cold.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 21, 2010 05:32 PM (1OKre)

328 geejus, maddogg, my twins are now huddled in fear just below my liver.  Thanks!

Posted by: tangonine at January 21, 2010 05:32 PM (C8Pcc)

329

geez, that old slapper's got huge tits huh..

Yeah, but they're at her waistline.  Apparently the only plastic surgery she's interested in is above teh neck.

On the numerous clips FOX showed this evening, where she said she didn't have the votes, she looked all of her 100 years.  Her eyes looked red too.  I'd definitely say she had been crying.  Schadenfreude, baby.  If she has another go at this thing and it dies, I'll lay odds she'll self-destruct into a million tiny Botoxed parts.

Hmmm.  Maybe they're doing this to have some earth-shattering annoucement (either way) at 5 p.m. tomorrow?  Beck said he's been getting FBI-worthy threats and that "the gates of hell are going to open" with the showing of his "Live Free or Die" expose on Che, Mao, Stalin and Marx.  Set your DVRs.

Posted by: RushBabe at January 21, 2010 05:34 PM (LKkE8)

330

and Milli Vanilli kind of destiny.

Posted by: conscious, but numb at January 21, 2010 09:29 PM (Vu6sl)

A David Carradine kind of destiny.

Posted by: Rodent Freikorps at January 21, 2010 05:34 PM (dQdrY)

331 328 If this won't take those dipping wrinkles out of yer sack, nothin' will!

Posted by: maddogg at January 21, 2010 09:30 PM (cN9P9)

That's just the typical face that she pulls when the O-hole asks for a little sumpin', sumpin'...

Posted by: conscious, but numb at January 21, 2010 05:35 PM (Vu6sl)

332 Sorry, ot. Just noticed a lot of msm telling tea party how to operate? WTF? Who do they think they are? Last week, we were a bunch of racist, teabaggers. We need to ignore the msm, just as the American public is. They suck, and have had control for far too long. Lets ignore them, they do not get to decide anymore. 

Posted by: lou at January 21, 2010 05:35 PM (BSVwM)

333 Had a t-shirt made today that reads "Odumbass sucks big time"! Can't wait to wear it.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at January 21, 2010 05:35 PM (YCvqc)

334

Posted by: tangonine at January 21, 2010 09:32 PM (C8Pcc)

Kinda reminds ya of the Alien, don't it?

Posted by: maddogg at January 21, 2010 05:35 PM (cN9P9)

335
326 -curious said---
"ok, my lib friends told me that he will reform health care by executive order,"

The scary part is that your lib friends are fine with that.


Posted by: pre paid sex monster at January 21, 2010 05:35 PM (0fzsA)

336 Is there a time limit on a bill to get presented to a President? I mean, are they still going to be trying to make their minds up 5 months from now? 5 years???

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 21, 2010 05:36 PM (QECjC)

337 ok, my lib friends told me that he will reform health care by executive order, with straight faces and martinis in their hands. Posted by: curious

It's only constitutional overreach when a Rethuglican is in charge of the Presidency, don'tcha know!

Posted by: Iskandar at January 21, 2010 05:36 PM (doEqS)

338

Fuckit.

A Che Guevara kind of destiny.

Posted by: Rodent Freikorps at January 21, 2010 05:37 PM (dQdrY)

339 Present!

Posted by: Tinian at January 21, 2010 05:37 PM (7+pP9)

340 #281 there are some plot holes that Scott Brown could drive The Truck through but it's worth the time for some continuing story lines, and Booth's three shots.

Posted by: Retread at January 21, 2010 05:38 PM (J8Ase)

341 The vice president of our company (lib) walked into the office today and asked "So! Are you happy now!?"  And I grinned and said: "warm and yielding" 

He had no idea wtf I was saying... and since I'm an invaluable asset he can't replace without a whole lotta fucking Monster searching, he just left. LOL

Posted by: tangonine at January 21, 2010 05:38 PM (C8Pcc)

342 tangonine, maybe you should bring him a pudding pack tomorrow, just to smooth things over. 

Posted by: Peaches at January 21, 2010 05:40 PM (9Wv2j)

343
The vice president of our company (lib) walked into the office today and asked "So! Are you happy now!?"  And I grinned and said: "warm and yielding" 

He had no idea wtf I was saying..

Awesome.  Rub that worthless civilian's face in the dirt.  Fucking ingrate retard if he's a VP and still thinks marxism is the way.

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 21, 2010 05:41 PM (g5M0N)

344 I don't see what the problem is.


MICHAEL STEELE MICHAEL STEELE MICHAEL STEELE MICHAEL STEELE MICHAEL STEELE MICHAEL STEELE MICHAEL STEELE MICHAEL STEELE MICHAEL STEELE MICHAEL STEELE
Oh, and
MICHAEL STEELE

Posted by: Michael Steele On Tour at January 21, 2010 05:41 PM (EL+OC)

345 Did Dan Collins ever get the link love?

Posted by: Rodent Freikorps at January 21, 2010 05:42 PM (dQdrY)

346 Y'all do know that these communist bastards are going to try anything to fight the American people that they loath in order to have their utopia, stay on target folks and fight them every inch of the way.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at January 21, 2010 05:42 PM (YCvqc)

347 Peaches,

LMAO!  I think I'll be stopping at Safeway on the way in to the office!

Posted by: tangonine at January 21, 2010 05:42 PM (C8Pcc)

348 345
The vice president of our company (lib) walked into the office today and asked "So! Are you happy now!?"  And I grinned and said: "warm and yielding" 

He had no idea wtf I was saying..
LOL. Could be career limiting...


Posted by: Barbarian at January 21, 2010 05:43 PM (EL+OC)

349 It isn't like the White Russians went down without a fight.

Posted by: Rodent Freikorps at January 21, 2010 05:43 PM (dQdrY)

350 Has anybody emailed the White House at flag@whitehouse.gov yet to report that Scott Brown thinks Obamacare sucks?

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 21, 2010 05:44 PM (QECjC)

351 Scott Brown is just a speed bump to them in their dilussional minds!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at January 21, 2010 05:45 PM (YCvqc)

352 "He had no idea wtf I was saying... and since I'm an invaluable asset he can't replace without a whole lotta fucking Monster searching, he just left. LOL"

Screen fades to black with words "15 minutes later"

tangonine:   What do you want now?!
boss:  You're fired!

Posted by: Famouse Director at January 21, 2010 05:45 PM (xYLUt)

353 Did Dan Collins ever get the link love?

You mean this?  Funniest thing I've read in ages.  Should be required reading for anyone who missed the Great Moron Group Dip on Tuesday evening.   (I'm lookin' at you, 'Nam)

Posted by: Peaches at January 21, 2010 05:46 PM (9Wv2j)

354 "339
326 -curious said---
"ok, my lib friends told me that he will reform health care by executive order,"

The scary part is that your lib friends are fine with that.


Posted by: pre paid sex monster at January 21, 2010 09:35 PM (0fzsA)"

When I think back to the ridiculous time wasting garbage I've heard them complain about in the last 8 years and then to see their double standard, right there, right out there, without even thinking it is kind of scary.  Who made the rules that you only matter if you are a dem/lib and if you know the right people?  Who made the rule that it's ok to do whatever you want and you shouldn't say something if it benefits you?   Where the hell is character?

Posted by: curious at January 21, 2010 05:46 PM (p302b)

355 tangonine:   What do you want now?!
boss:  You're fired! You've been made available to the industry.


Posted by: Barbarian at January 21, 2010 05:47 PM (EL+OC)

356 357, Hey darlin, nice to type to you.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at January 21, 2010 05:47 PM (YCvqc)

357 Spencer Tillman seems pretty tuned in.  Is he conservative?

Posted by: logprof at January 21, 2010 05:47 PM (gJL6J)

358 got stuck watching part of "The View(spew)" taday while waiting to get my shoulder MRI'd. Whoopi was basically demanding that we the plebes either get the same healthcare as congress and the senate, or they should be forced to have the same healthcare as us. needless to say I was shocked, since she is a lib.

Posted by: mrfixit at January 21, 2010 05:49 PM (Bsm1s)

359

As views remain sharply divided about Congress, Americans say -- by a 47-43 percent margin -- they would vote for someone else rather than re-elect President Obama if the 2012 presidential elections were held today.

This was according to a new fox news poll. No named oppenent and he is down 4. That is horrible for him. Obama is lucky this is not 2012 with a few days before the election, Sarah would smoke him.

Posted by: Dan at January 21, 2010 05:49 PM (KZraB)

360 I like the cut of spencer tillmans jib

Posted by: dananjcon at January 21, 2010 05:50 PM (ZlVf9)

361 Hey, techie-types, will it be bad for my computer if the power goes off?  We're having thunder and lightning and hail (yup).  Power keeps fluctuating.

Posted by: Peaches at January 21, 2010 05:50 PM (9Wv2j)

362 Damn, quoting Epititus!  Granted, he probably got that in a pep talk from a coach but at least it stuck!

Posted by: logprof at January 21, 2010 05:51 PM (gJL6J)

363 365 Peaches, Like hitting your hardrive with a hammer, I ain't no techie though.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at January 21, 2010 05:52 PM (YCvqc)

364
Peaches, unless you're running off a really good battery back up that conditions the line, you need to eject.  And by 'really good' I mean one the size of a car battery with true UPS, not the little cracker-box ones or a power strip.  Unplug your tv too if it's a good one, a lightning strike will fry everything plugged into the wall.

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 21, 2010 05:53 PM (g5M0N)

365 365 Hey, techie-types, will it be bad for my computer if the power goes off?  We're having thunder and lightning and hail (yup).  Power keeps fluctuating.
Posted by: Peaches at January 21, 2010 09:50 PM

A quality UPS/Surge protector is in order. I love mine. Power goes out and I calmly shut down at my leisure with 1/2hr to spare on battery power. It will shut down by itself if I'm not here ('puter on 24/7).

Oh...NOT a techie type. I'm a geek-a-wanna-be.

Posted by: jcjimi at January 21, 2010 05:54 PM (XSikc)

366 Tillman's conservative!  From Tulsa!

Draft him!

Posted by: logprof at January 21, 2010 05:55 PM (gJL6J)

367 If the power is fluctuating then turn off now. Not good.

Posted by: jcjimi at January 21, 2010 05:56 PM (XSikc)

368 369 - I concur.

Posted by: madtechie at January 21, 2010 05:56 PM (5vrLJ)

369 I would love to see Sarah pay a visit to Scotts office when he gets one, that would make the heads of libs explode big time!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at January 21, 2010 05:57 PM (YCvqc)

370 Sheesh, that kinda sucks.  I think this cell has just about passed us by now.  I'm gonna chance it.  I'm having too much fun!

Posted by: Peaches at January 21, 2010 05:57 PM (9Wv2j)

371

Crash and Burn ... flames, smoke, wreckage !

Time for the recovery team of Madow and Olberman to keep the party sanity.

  

Posted by: Will Robinson at January 21, 2010 05:58 PM (CYW1e)

372
374 Sheesh, that kinda sucks.  I think this cell has just about passed us by now.  I'm gonna chance it.  I'm having too much fun!
Posted by: Peaches at January 21, 2010 09:57 PM

If you don't back up then now would be a real good time to start!

Posted by: jcjimi at January 21, 2010 05:59 PM (XSikc)

373 Brrr.... if there's one pic that can drive anyone to immediate impotence, its any stock pic of Pelosi.  I don't think even 90's Skinemax clips can save me tonight.

At least Hell-Care's in a coma (for the moment, I think) and I've finally got to download the GoW3 demo.  It was every bit as awesome as I'd imagined it to be.


Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at January 21, 2010 05:59 PM (otlXg)

374 Wow.  Thanks for all the 'puter advice.  I will be less cavalier about the next big blast. 

Posted by: Peaches at January 21, 2010 05:59 PM (9Wv2j)

375

I guess it's once the Dem's are sitting on the crapper, they're committed to going all the way...  no matter how much it is stuck or how bad it stinks or hurts... 

They just need Bobby Brown to help them pull it out ... like he did for Whitney Houston.

Posted by: tank at January 21, 2010 06:00 PM (6tCmr)

376 362 got stuck watching part of "The View(spew)" taday while waiting to get my shoulder MRI'd. Whoopi was basically demanding that we the plebes either get the same healthcare as congress and the senate, or they should be forced to have the same healthcare as us. needless to say I was shocked, since she is a lib.

Statistically, people like Whoppi actually utter things that are logical every so often. And by often, I mean once every five or ten years. I'm sure that tomorrow she'll be blaming everything on Bush.

Also, sorry you had to watch "The View." If I get stuck in a waiting room with it on, I try to change the channel no matter what...

Posted by: shibumi at January 21, 2010 06:00 PM (OKZrE)

377
Pretty good Supernatural tonight.  Crazy is good.

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 21, 2010 06:01 PM (g5M0N)

378 A sportscaster just hit a home run, "O'Bama care is dead, the only remaining question is the cost of the funeral".

Posted by: Scrapiron at January 21, 2010 06:01 PM (1kwr2)

379

When I think back to the ridiculous time wasting garbage I've heard them complain about in the last 8 years and then to see their double standard, right there, right out there, without even thinking it is kind of scary.  Who made the rules that you only matter if you are a dem/lib and if you know the right people?  Who made the rule that it's ok to do whatever you want and you shouldn't say something if it benefits you?   Where the hell is character?

Posted by: curious at January 21, 2010 09:46 PM (p302b)

It's hard to remember that Libs are amoral scum sometimes.  It's because we are human, and suffer from the penchant for transference.  We are honest, and can only stomach so much irrationality, so we assume the leftists are the same.  They are not.  They're totally different from us on a deep psychological level.  They can justify anything to themselves so long as some part of it can be aligned with their perverse politics.  That is why they can not be reasoned with.  It is why they can NEVER, EVER be trusted.  Not for a moment.  Leftism is evil cloaked in annoying do-gooderism.  It is right to find their mentality scary - because it's the mentality that led to over 100 million murders.

Posted by: Reactionary at January 21, 2010 06:03 PM (4nbyM)

380
384
+1

Posted by: jcjimi at January 21, 2010 06:04 PM (XSikc)

381

362, 380 but was it rape-rape?

 

PS for those who missed Bobby Brown /Whiteny reality show in one episode he actually pulled a stuck turd from his wifes butt.  I am so surpirsed their marriage did not last.

Posted by: tank at January 21, 2010 06:05 PM (6tCmr)

382 The wife was baking last evening for the school bake sale. Since she was on a roll, she decided to make brownies for me to take to the boys at work. On my way in, I had a marvelous idea to make a sign that says "Victory Scott Brownies, Please take one." Needless to say the libs in the office grumbled and pretty much  refrained. Thought I'd share. 

Posted by: madtechie at January 21, 2010 06:05 PM (5vrLJ)

383 actually pulled a stuck turd from his wifes butt.  I am so surpirsed their marriage did not last.

Posted by: tank at January 21, 2010 10:05 PM (6tCmr)

Maybe she wanted someone with smaller hands.

Posted by: Rodent Freikorps at January 21, 2010 06:06 PM (dQdrY)

385 386

No kidding. It went downhill from there? Wow.

Posted by: jcjimi at January 21, 2010 06:07 PM (XSikc)

386 Posted by: right at January 21, 2010 10:01 PM (EquV1)

Okay, fine, I'll go watch Jeopardy. sulks

Thanks, everybody!! ';-)

Posted by: Peaches at January 21, 2010 06:07 PM (9Wv2j)

387 Scott is a Soldier and that is something that you are for the rest of your life, believe me I've been a grunt for ages!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at January 21, 2010 06:08 PM (YCvqc)

388 <i>for those who missed Bobby Brown /Whiteny reality show in one episode he actually pulled a stuck turd from his wifes butt</i>

I had to do that for my dog one time when I was a kid. He was really old and couldn't quite finish the job on his own.

You do the hard things for the ones you love. Don't be hatin'.

Posted by: Monty at January 21, 2010 06:09 PM (QkTOo)

389 388 actually pulled a stuck turd from his wifes butt.  I am so surpirsed their marriage did not last.

Posted by: tank at January 21, 2010 10:05 PM (6tCmr)

Maybe she wanted someone with smaller hands.

Posted by: Rodent Freikorps at January 21, 2010 10:06 PM (dQdrY)

You mean to tell me there were no salad tongs in the house?

Posted by: conscious, but numb at January 21, 2010 06:09 PM (Vu6sl)

390 391 Posted by: right at January 21, 2010 10:01 PM (EquV1)

Okay, fine, I'll go watch Jeopardy. sulks

Thanks, everybody!! ';-)
Posted by: Peaches at January 21, 2010 10:07 PM

We'll soldier on without you. right is er...right. brownouts will fry the bastard

Posted by: jcjimi at January 21, 2010 06:09 PM (XSikc)

391 her golden boy

RACIST!!!!

he's high yellow, and he ain't no BOY. 

Michelle is a racist.  (I mean an anti-black one.  We already know she hates whitey)


Posted by: hobgoblin at January 21, 2010 06:10 PM (i8s5X)

392 Not surprising.

People continue to act on the assumption that the people at the top of the Democratic Party will suddenly see the light. They aren't. Particularly not Pelosi or Reid. They're on a mission from God to lead the peons to Nirvana. They could do it in small, itty bitty pieces, but they have distaste for even that. They want a massive, overwhelming victory to demonstrate and celebrate their righteousness.

Posted by: MlR at January 21, 2010 06:11 PM (op9m5)

394

You mean to tell me there were no salad tongs in the house?

Posted by: conscious, but numb at January 21, 2010 10:09 PM (Vu6sl)

It you break of one of those opoid induced bricks flush, you'll need power tools.

Posted by: Rodent Freikorps at January 21, 2010 06:12 PM (dQdrY)

395

Just talked to my sister who can't decide whether she's a moderate or not, or maybe, but not definately but with no convictions.

Even she says watching a narcissist like Pelosi self-destruct is going to be fun. She expects her to look crazier and crazier. Then she was surprised she was from San Francisco.

I commented on the tone-deafness of Obama making fun of pick-ups and she told me that her elitest neighbor whose husband was Lloyd Benson's speech writer is highly offended by their pickup they use for antiquing. Geesh. These people are too dumb to live.

Posted by: dagny at January 21, 2010 06:12 PM (zkXRJ)

396 #356

Yeah, that'd be funny except it didn't happen.  He can't afford to replace me on this contract with this schedule. 

I love being irreplaceable.

Posted by: tangonine at January 21, 2010 06:13 PM (C8Pcc)

397 A sportscaster just hit a home run, "O'Bama care is dead, the only remaining question is the cost of the funeral".

Posted by: Scrapiron at January 21, 2010 10:01 PM (1kwr2)

--I know, sad to hear he wouldn't run for office.   I would love to see him representin', even though he is a former Bronco.

Posted by: logprof at January 21, 2010 06:14 PM (gJL6J)

398 400

Just talked to my sister who can't decide whether she's a moderate or not, or maybe, but not definately but with no convictions.

 

So she's a liberal, jump on the bandwagon type?

Posted by: lou at January 21, 2010 06:19 PM (BSVwM)

399 Monty - no hate implied ... just reiterating what  213, drfredc was saying that the dems sure are determined to "push" this through!

Posted by: tank at January 21, 2010 06:19 PM (6tCmr)

400

oh noes!!! helicoptor ben might not have the votes for re-confirmation!

this just proves that we need healthcare rammed up our ass.

Posted by: evil libertarian at January 21, 2010 06:20 PM (x9lGm)

401

And ye shall worship my unspeakable massiveness, crackers!

Posted by: Michelle Obama's Ass at January 21, 2010 06:20 PM (dcKUM)

402

sorry forgot the link.

http://tinyurl.com/ydlsxxv

Posted by: evil libertarian at January 21, 2010 06:21 PM (x9lGm)

403
Steele really wants to hold a  GOP convention in Hawaii?  During a recession?  Really?  Momma continues to kick ass over at WZ.

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 21, 2010 06:21 PM (g5M0N)

404

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 21, 2010 10:07 PM (g5M0N)

Indeed - he hit the nail on the head.  I'll have to copy that quote and paste it in the archive...

I believe that the US has received yet another wake up call.  I think the Dems are going to be slaughtered in the next two election cycles unless the Reps totally screw the pooch (a sad possibility).  Given that, I wonder what the loons will do when they're out on their asses again?  They got close to violence this last time - they certainly called for it openly enough.  Hard left movements have always turned murderous.  I wonder if they'll join the jihadists, or perhaps start their own Euro-style anarchist/terrorist orgs?  Or will they all just wuss out like usual? 

Whatever the case, maybe a good hard purge will finally be in order....    Mmmmm.....

 

Posted by: Reactionary at January 21, 2010 06:21 PM (4nbyM)

405 Annuit Coeptis, suckers!

Posted by: The amazingly declining Dollar at January 21, 2010 06:22 PM (dcKUM)

406 If you haven't been to Insty's today, I highly recommend it.  And you thought things couldn't get any better!

Posted by: RushBabe at January 21, 2010 06:23 PM (LKkE8)

407
I think the Dems are going to be slaughtered in the next two election cycles unless the Reps totally screw the pooch (a sad possibility)

Read my #408.  They're already trying.

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 21, 2010 06:23 PM (g5M0N)

408
Barrack Obama is at the end of his hope.

Posted by: sickinmass at January 21, 2010 06:24 PM (Dxfei)

409 405

oh noes!!! helicoptor ben might not have the votes for re-confirmation!

Posted by: evil libertarian at January 21, 2010 10:20 PM (x9lGm)

 

But wasn't he the Time Man-Person-Thing of the Year?

Posted by: The amazingly declining Dollar at January 21, 2010 06:24 PM (dcKUM)

410 403 It's hard to explain. She's really a conservative but doesn't know it. Typical baby boomer atheist in a super lib community BUT raised with actual convictions. Spent most of her life embarassed by the family's military background but has slowly made the realization that all her "friends" are annoying pussies. She ends up doing the right thing but doesn't know why. Insists she is moderate but isn't. Thinks I'm radical but votes just like me. Despises her new SF lib daughter in law and asked me for a copy of Vision of the Annointed.

Posted by: dagny at January 21, 2010 06:25 PM (85tPt)

411 If anyone wants a truly enjoyable reading experience, click on the Paul Krugman link on the right side of the front page and read the comments from all of the suicidal Libs. They're despondent and giving up on Obama; I haven't felt this good, and optimistic about this country since Barry took the oath. Beautiful.

Posted by: Jack Bauer's Dad at January 21, 2010 06:25 PM (DVl4L)

412 400

Just talked to my sister who can't decide whether she's a moderate or not, or maybe, but not definately but with no convictions.

Posted by: dagny at January 21, 2010 10:12 PM (zkXRJ)

Has she decided yet if she's your sister?

Posted by: The amazingly declining Dollar at January 21, 2010 06:26 PM (dcKUM)

413 thanks for the explanation enoxo.

I think Nancy P wants to go for the stripped down version--nose under the tent.

Posted by: PJ at January 21, 2010 06:26 PM (Qpxxz)

414

At first I thought she was Borg.  "You will be assimilated"

I still think she is.

Posted by: Born Free at January 21, 2010 06:27 PM (5KgfH)

415

418 She would wait till her husband gave her the go ahead. (And she is the successful one in that duo)

Posted by: dagny at January 21, 2010 06:29 PM (d0pOp)

416 I think the Dems are going to be slaughtered in the next two election cycles unless the Reps totally screw the pooch (a sad possibility)
-----
Read my #408.  They're already trying.

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 21, 2010 10:23 PM (g5M0N)

Ahhhrrrggg!  So they are.  Stupid bastards.  Who finds these idiots and puts them in charge?  I could almost weep from frustration. 

Posted by: Reactionary at January 21, 2010 06:29 PM (4nbyM)

417 If Botox had a stuck turd I would kick it back up her ass for her.

Posted by: maddogg at January 21, 2010 06:31 PM (cN9P9)

418

I guess he thought the symbolism of going to Obama's home state (Kenya was booked) would be good.

He should get the money into a red state, idiot.

Posted by: dagny at January 21, 2010 06:31 PM (d0pOp)

419
If Botox had a stuck turd I would kick it back up her ass for her.

Duct tape!

Posted by: Dang Straights at January 21, 2010 06:33 PM (g5M0N)

420

Oh my!

'Wish I had a Citrullus lanatus....

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at January 21, 2010 06:34 PM (dcKUM)

421 Last night on Fox Morris said he had completely lost his power.   The image of the wicked witch of the west came to mind "I'm melting, I'm meeeltttiinnng" and I thought Morris was out of his mind.  Wow, he wasn't out of his mind.  He seems to have been right.  But he did add the addendum that they won't know they have no power anymore, they'll have to learn the hard way.

Posted by: curious at January 21, 2010 06:35 PM (p302b)

422 415 But wasn't he the Time Man-Person-Thing of the Year?

The answer to break the deadlock is more Time magazine covers. About 6 more and he's a shoe-in for the presidency.

Posted by: The Greene Bard at January 21, 2010 06:35 PM (ZvV/I)

423

American Republic replaced by “Council of Governors”?

Posted by: lou at January 21, 2010 06:36 PM (BSVwM)

424

So, how do dictator wannbe's get their mojo back?

War.

Posted by: Rodent Freikorps at January 21, 2010 06:39 PM (dQdrY)

425 My God, Batchelor and Malcolm are making fun of the White House.  They are saying "do you think they would benefit if they stayed up late with us and maybe would be able to connect these dots?"   This is too funny, the usually serious, professional John Batchelor is making fun of the administration.

Posted by: curious at January 21, 2010 06:39 PM (p302b)

426 Pelosi is going to have to invade Poland

Posted by: dagny at January 21, 2010 06:40 PM (d0pOp)

427

Interesting left viewpoint  on this at 538 "Will the base abandon hope?"

Nate is a genius when it comes to analyzing the polls.  On analyzing the Bem strategy, not so much.

Posted by: random at January 21, 2010 06:41 PM (y4Qwa)

428 427 Last night on Fox Morris said he had completely lost his power.   The image of the wicked witch of the west came to mind "I'm melting, I'm meeeltttiinnng" and I thought Morris was out of his mind.  Wow, he wasn't out of his mind.  He seems to have been right.  But he did add the addendum that they won't know they have no power anymore, they'll have to learn the hard way.

Obama still has plenty of power to screw things up.  I'm waiting for some foreign policy issue to get completely out of control.

At least in the end, there will be only chaos.

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at January 21, 2010 06:41 PM (otlXg)

429

Boy, grandma Pelosi's pendulous love jugs really gets my bone all Mastodonic!

Posted by: Senator Robert Byrd at January 21, 2010 06:41 PM (dcKUM)

430 There's bad polls in some of these blue dog house districts.  I don't think any senate/reconciliation bill gets through the house with 218.

Posted by: chris999 at January 21, 2010 06:41 PM (B/WwP)

431 This just in! The Capitol Building has been filled with bunkbeds and President Obama has ordered all Democrats to put on their purple Nikes, and report there ASAP with their farewell letters....

Posted by: Breaking News! at January 21, 2010 07:07 PM (qcgPU)

Cool! We're about to see a big order!

Posted by: The poor bastard who invented Snuggies at January 21, 2010 06:46 PM (q8CmE)

432 Trying to keep up the brave face, awww.

Keith Hennessey thinks this is a pipe dream, so does Jay Cost.  I think they're smarter than Pelosi and her desperate band of nationalizers.

Posted by: Jana at January 21, 2010 06:47 PM (3dh9d)

433 417 If anyone wants a truly enjoyable reading experience, click on the Paul Krugman link on the right side of the front page and read the comments from all of the suicidal Libs. They're despondent and giving up on Obama; I haven't felt this good, and optimistic about this country since Barry took the oath. Beautiful.

Posted by: Jack Bauer's Dad at January 21, 2010 10:25 PM (DVl4L)

That is pure gold!!!! LMAO!!!!!

Posted by: Tipsy McStagger, somewhere down in Texas at January 21, 2010 06:49 PM (N54zd)

434 How long does it take for a Liberal to understand that the ship is sinking. The last 100 off are all dead rats!

Posted by: mystry at January 21, 2010 06:49 PM (kmgIE)

Posted by: curious at January 21, 2010 06:50 PM (p302b)

436 Morris was a big part of Clinton's post-1994 move towards the (somewhat) center, so he offers a good perspective on recent events, especially if November turns out the way everyone is predicting.

Obama almost has a chance to not go through a total 1994 style event based on the loss of Ted Kennedy's seat, but is obviously squandering it by continuing on the same path, although it seems to be done via proxy through the Dem Congressional leadership.

Posted by: The Greene Bard at January 21, 2010 06:53 PM (ZvV/I)

437 If anyone wants a truly enjoyable reading experience, click on the Paul Krugman link on the right side of the front page and read the comments from all of the suicidal Libs. They're despondent and giving up on Obama; I haven't felt this good, and optimistic about this country since Barry took the oath. Beautiful.

Posted by: Jack Bauer's Dad at January 21, 2010 10:25 PM (DVl4L)

That was hysterical. I liked this comment:

Groundhogday

Obama has caved on the stimulus (and gained nothing), caved on financial reform, and caved on the public option. Why should the rest of the insurance reform be any different. He just refuses to go to battle. Meet President Obama, the cave man.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at January 21, 2010 06:54 PM (A46hP)

438 Some times you can't unfuck something.

Posted by: Rodent Freikorps at January 21, 2010 08:06 PM (dQdrY)

Now you tell me...

Posted by: The Chicken at January 21, 2010 06:57 PM (q8CmE)

439 Meet President Obama, the cave man.

"Meet President Obama, the cave man - boy" is what I heard.

Posted by: Maureen "Old Maid" Dowd at January 21, 2010 07:01 PM (ZvV/I)

440

Meet President Obama, the cave man.

We might have a job for him once this all blows over. Shrimp on the barbie for ya, mate?

Posted by: The Geico Gekko at January 21, 2010 07:13 PM (q8CmE)

441 This is my fav so far: "I voted for Obama - I believed his amazing speeches. Too bad I haven't seen any similar passion from him since he took office. At least when George W was in office, I had someone easy to blame for the nation's troubles. Now that Dems have squandered a year in office and show no signs of standing up for their principles, our government's inability to deal with our challenges is all the more heartbreaking." - some lib douche

Posted by: Jack Bauer's Dad at January 21, 2010 07:25 PM (DVl4L)

442 And this... "The problem isn't just Obama. The entire Democratic leadership aren't willing or able to "fight for what their supporters believe in" And it's going to cost them dearly come November..." - another lib douche

Posted by: Jack Bauer's Dad at January 21, 2010 07:27 PM (DVl4L)

443 Let them commit "controlled suicide."

Posted by: ParisParamus at January 21, 2010 07:35 PM (s2TC6)

444 I"m so glad the bored and desperate chat room hasn't fired up yet. :thumbup

Posted by: Barbarian at January 21, 2010 07:50 PM (EL+OC)

445 Oh, it has. I missed it. Apologies.

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447 At exactly what point does the government lose its legitimacy and therefore its claim to authority?

I don't know about you, but I'm pretty well convinced that politicians passing laws that the majority of Americans are firmly against qualifies as grounds for declaring that government illegitimate. 

Posted by: Lee at January 21, 2010 08:04 PM (8cnnJ)

448 I hope the Dems do it! My boys can't get enough lovin.

Posted by: awnree at January 21, 2010 10:14 PM (ZNdcE)

449 The woman is a clear-and-present danger to the United States of America. She needs immediate water-boarding, denied Botox for a week, and launched from the surface of the earth. (If I really wasn't really concerned about her presence and effect, on Mars...)

Posted by: Jack Bauer at January 21, 2010 10:21 PM (+Z5RN)

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453 "Nate is a genius when it comes to analyzing the polls."

You mean like when he said MA was "too close to call" with Coakley the probable winner?  Uh, no.

Silver likes to pick Dems.  This made him look smart when the tides were going Democratic.  Now?  Not so much.

Posted by: someone at January 22, 2010 04:29 AM (njJQD)

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