February 22, 2010

Reid: "Men, When They're Out of Work, Tend to Become Abusive."
— Gabriel Malor

Via the Anchoress, who calls him an asshat:

"I met with some people while I was home dealing with domestic abuse. It has gotten out of hand," Reid said on the Senate floor. "Why? Men don't have jobs."

Reid said that the effects of joblessness on domestic violence were especially pronounced among men, because, Reid said, women tend to be less abusive.

"Women don't have jobs either, but women arenÂ’t abusive, most of the time," he said.

"Men, when they're out of work, tend to become abusive," the majority leader added. "Our domestic crisis shelters in Nevada are jammed.”

Jerk.

This is called a hasty generalization. Reid is characterizing an entire group of people (men) based on his personal experience. Unfortunately, his personal experience isn't the whole picture. This is the fallacy of incomplete samples. In fact women are as likely to initiate violence on parters. It's just that men are less likely to take advantage of shelters or crisis hotlines. That doesn't mean that women "tend to become abusive." It means that a fraction of the groups of people, men and women, have partner violence proclivities. It doesn't mean that all men and women do. That's a hasty generalization.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 05:30 PM | Comments (148)
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1 Reid: "Men, When They're Out of Work, Tend to Become Abusive." Heh. Good time for Mrs. Reid to start brushing up on her self-defense moves, LOL.

Posted by: Ostrich at February 22, 2010 05:32 PM (9IHmo)

2 Oh, and screw my ostrich sock puppet.

Posted by: CoolCzech at February 22, 2010 05:32 PM (9IHmo)

3 Hey Harry, I'm about to go all "domestic abuse" on you!

Posted by: your worst nightmare at February 22, 2010 05:33 PM (Vu6sl)

4 Well, in that case, thank God the Super Bowl is over.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 22, 2010 05:33 PM (A9tiT)

5 I'm about to go sideways on ya'all!

Posted by: Harry "Kerry" Reid at February 22, 2010 05:35 PM (Vu6sl)

6 Project much?

Posted by: Nevada Voter Intent on Making Dirty Harry "Abusive" at February 22, 2010 05:35 PM (zFh1t)

7 I can't wait until his constituents become abusive come November.

Posted by: ErikW at February 22, 2010 05:35 PM (EOvYt)

8 Harry Reid is fucking senile.

Posted by: conscious and I know senile when I hear it at February 22, 2010 05:36 PM (Vu6sl)

9 Women get beat up more often during the Super Bowl. It must be true because the feminists told me so.

Posted by: wherestherum at February 22, 2010 05:37 PM (wB82/)

10 So now he's saying that a lot of unemployed Nevada men are physically abusive?  That ought to endear him to the voters.

Posted by: conscious and I know senile when I hear it at February 22, 2010 05:38 PM (Vu6sl)

11

I dunno what the real numbers bear out, but I have to admit that I've known a lot of guys who enjoyed working long hours because it kept them away from the nagging harpies nesting in their homes.  If forced to confront their bon-bon eating, whiney, spitefull harridans every day, all day, it is not surprising that they would snap.  Not that I'm excusing it - I'm just saying I understand.

However, I think this might be a chicken-egg thing.  I suspect that the kinds of men who are chronically unemployed are also the A-shirt wearing abusive trash that one would expect to enjoy beating up a woman.

 

Posted by: Reactionary at February 22, 2010 05:38 PM (4nbyM)

12 Don't make me do it to ya, bitch.

Posted by: Nevada Voters at February 22, 2010 05:39 PM (rp/SG)

13

>>> Jerk

That'll show him, Gabe

Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 22, 2010 05:39 PM (farQY)

14 Did The Anchoress seriously just call him an "ignorant slut?"  I'm not entirely sure I like that from her...

Posted by: Wolfwood at February 22, 2010 05:39 PM (NyqJb)

15

This is like the feminist tripe about how the superbowl is the biggest day of domestic abuse in america.

this shit pisses me off so much, i'm going to go take it out on my wife.

Posted by: Ben at February 22, 2010 05:39 PM (qVmY7)

16 ...Reid said, women tend to be less abusive. Well, you would know, wouldn't you, Harriet?

Posted by: George Orwell at February 22, 2010 05:39 PM (AZGON)

17 BREAKING:  Harry Reid:  "Obama Policies Bad for Women"

Posted by: nickless at February 22, 2010 05:39 PM (MMC8r)

18 Everybody DOWN!!!

Posted by: Jack Bauer at February 22, 2010 05:40 PM (DXlBJ)

19

i just read  that reid will win re election if that tea party candidate runs

 

Posted by: Ben at February 22, 2010 05:40 PM (qVmY7)

20 Congress and the Dems have given us the fodder to turn a national suicide pact into merely a Dem suicide pact. 

Lets hope we can politically kill them ALL.

Posted by: Paramus Production at February 22, 2010 05:40 PM (GgR+e)

21 Reid wants all men to surrender to the Democratic party and feed at the trough of unemployment for the rest of their lives. He believes this will stop all domestic abuse.

Posted by: mystry at February 22, 2010 05:41 PM (kmgIE)

22 RACIST!

Posted by: highest unemployed demogrphic at February 22, 2010 05:41 PM (8zsWd)

23 With unemployment at 25 year highs, the last Super Bowl Sunday must have been pure carnage for the ladies.

Posted by: Cicero at February 22, 2010 05:41 PM (QKKT0)

24 Is there a sock puppet manager for Firefox?  Google Chrome?  PLEASE.   I NEED ONE.

Posted by: ParamusParamus at February 22, 2010 05:41 PM (GgR+e)

25 Reid: "Men, When They're Out of Work, Tend to Become Abusive." Jerk. Off.

Posted by: George Orwell at February 22, 2010 05:42 PM (AZGON)

26 For the love of Allah, would someone hire Michelle already?

Posted by: Barack at February 22, 2010 05:42 PM (bgcml)

27 Don't make me do it to ya, bitch.

Posted by: Nevada Voters at February 22, 2010 09:39 PM (rp/SG)

Get a job, bastard.  The kids need to eat.  So does Momma.

Posted by: Harry Reid at February 22, 2010 05:42 PM (YX6i/)

28 For the love of Allah, would someone hire Michelle already?

Posted by: Barack "Walked Into the Door Again" Obama at February 22, 2010 05:42 PM (bgcml)

29 Maybe instead of makework jobs, the federal government should just supply free wife beater undershirts to anyone who wants them.

Posted by: Cicero at February 22, 2010 05:43 PM (QKKT0)

30 When men are out of work, they start jockin' the bitches and slappin' the ho's, for those of you that still have your negro dialect.

Posted by: Harry Reed at February 22, 2010 05:43 PM (ctR4U)

31 BREAKING: Harry Reid: "Obama Policies Bad for Women" Winnah, winnah, TV dinnah!

Posted by: George Orwell at February 22, 2010 05:43 PM (AZGON)

32 Where the fuck is Ace? I'm going into withdrawal here.

Posted by: Johnny at February 22, 2010 05:43 PM (xVKXy)

33 Reid wants all men to surrender to the Democratic party and feed at the trough of unemployment for the rest of their lives. He believes this will stop all domestic abuse.

Posted by: mystry at February 22, 2010 09:41 PM (kmgIE)

We'll make the trains run on time too.

Posted by: Harry Reid at February 22, 2010 05:43 PM (bgcml)

34 Rewrite on the Headline:

Senator Harry Reid Makes Veiled Threats Against Wife

Posted by: Deety at February 22, 2010 05:44 PM (aVzyR)

35  Women get beat up more often during the Super Bowl. It must be true because the feminists told me so.

Posted by: wherestherum at February 22, 2010 09:37 PM (wB82/)

Indeed - we all know that the feminists are paragons of truthfulness.  I feel sorta left out - having no wife, I have no one to beat up when I get overly excited during the half time show.  I see the black eyes on all my friends' wives and think to myself "I'm missing out!" 

I hate how once these absurd leftist myths get going they are never irradicated, even in the face of overwhelming contrary evidence.  Stupid people will be believing that lie for decades, if not forever.

Posted by: Reactionary at February 22, 2010 05:44 PM (4nbyM)

36
With President Jobkiller in charge... we gonna need a lot of ambalamps!

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at February 22, 2010 05:44 PM (i7iy+)

37 In fact women are as likely to initiate violence on partners.

I can attest to this from personal experience.

Posted by: Barack Obabe at February 22, 2010 05:44 PM (xVKXy)

38 Where the fuck is Ace? I'm going into withdrawal here.

Posted by: Johnny at February 22, 2010 09:43 PM (xVKXy) 

I think I saw him crawling away from my SUV...muhahahaha


Posted by: Some State Department Bureaucrat at February 22, 2010 05:44 PM (bgcml)

39 Only light-skinned women with no hint of Negro dialect are abusive.  Known fact.

Posted by: mama winger at February 22, 2010 05:45 PM (Ue9UN)

40 Did The Anchoress seriously just call him an "ignorant slut?"  I'm not entirely sure I like that from her...

"x, you ignorant slut" is a humorous construction, often used to dismiss someone entirely. It's a quote.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at February 22, 2010 05:45 PM (Mi2wf)

41 Harry's going to be unemployed soon.  It won't be pretty.

Posted by: Cicero at February 22, 2010 05:45 PM (QKKT0)

42 He'll get some shots in after the mid-terms

Posted by: evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight at February 22, 2010 05:46 PM (hCQG5)

43

this shit pisses me off so much, i'm going to go take it out on my wife.

Posted by: Ben at February 22, 2010 09:39 PM (qVmY7)

Trust me, it is much better if you take a little drive to cool off. 

Do bring the little lady though.

Posted by: Ted Kennedy at February 22, 2010 05:46 PM (bgcml)

44 I thought all that happens to men when they lose their job is they develop a discernible negro dialect?

Posted by: CoolCzech at February 22, 2010 05:48 PM (9IHmo)

45 This guy is a moron, substantively, and tactically.  Unbelievable someone that stupid can rise that high.

Posted by: ParamusParamus at February 22, 2010 05:48 PM (GgR+e)

46 We don't appreciate anyone lumping Reid in with ourselves. We have our own standards, after all. But we hear that the League of Extraordinarily Lickspittled Men is looking for recruits.

Posted by: The Guild of Ignorant Sluts at February 22, 2010 05:48 PM (AZGON)

47 Reid's just pissed because he'll soon be out of work.

Posted by: Chris at February 22, 2010 05:49 PM (jhZMV)

48

Well Reid scaled back the "jobs" bill by a lot. Maybe he  wants more men out of work.

Posted by: kansas at February 22, 2010 05:50 PM (sPCho)

49 I'm sure Reid can get work as a cocktail waitress for the nickel slots room at the Lucky Jackass in Pahrump. He wouldn't want his future joblessness to make him go all Roman eunuch on his wife.

Posted by: George Orwell at February 22, 2010 05:51 PM (AZGON)

50 This is called a hasty generalization.

Nah, smells like regular lib bullshit to me. You're either for the jobs bill or you're for violence against women. You're either for the healthcare bill or you're for violence against women. You're either for cap and trade..........

Posted by: The Mega Independent at February 22, 2010 05:52 PM (5I0Yr)

51

All the guys get shirts!

Those wife-beater A-shirts that is.

 

(don't make a maniac out of me...)

Posted by: Harry Reid at February 22, 2010 05:52 PM (PWkDX)

52 The problem is that I've been sitting here three hours watching Maury Povich and bitch still ain't got me my sammich.

Posted by: Out of Work Guy at February 22, 2010 05:52 PM (9KgcO)

53 of course being out of work and having money problems put extra stress into a relationship

Posted by: Noah at February 22, 2010 05:53 PM (mhD2v)

54 Hey assholes, I've got a message for all of you that are bashing my recent comments: http://tinypic.com/r/1zvz6h2/6

Posted by: Doctor Harry "Bishop" Reid at February 22, 2010 05:55 PM (Vu6sl)

55 In this case, Mrs. Reid should keep the number for the domestic abuse hotline handy.  She'll need it in November.

Posted by: Hatchet Five at February 22, 2010 05:57 PM (tafgh)

56 Being out of work w/no $ --> no relationships.

As it should, really. Everything great anybody ever did boils down to efforts to get laid.

Posted by: evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight at February 22, 2010 05:57 PM (hCQG5)

57 I mean, c'mon - Golden Gate bridge, Empire State bldg, the damned Chunnel - - they've got sexual innuendo written all over them

Posted by: evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight at February 22, 2010 05:58 PM (hCQG5)

58 Seems to me that Mrs. Reid had better be driven to the local womens' shelter immediately following Harry's concession speech. After all, this comment gives us great insight into the soon-to-be-former Senate Majority Leader/soon-to-be-former Senator.

Posted by: Rhymes With Right at February 22, 2010 06:00 PM (KU4uN)

59 "Jane, you ignorant slut" is part of an SNL skit with Dan Akroyd and Jane Curtin. It was part of a point-counterpoint on Weekend Update in which they debated the propriey of Lee Marvin's not-wife Michelle Triola suing him for alimony because they'd lived together for a few years. Curtin gave the pro-Triola side and Akroyd started his rebuttal with "Jane, you ignorant slut," proceeding on to a very funny rant.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 22, 2010 06:00 PM (A9tiT)

60

Got no money and you got no car,

Then you got no woman and there you are.

Word up fellas.

Posted by: Young MC at February 22, 2010 06:00 PM (cgI35)

61

Mr. Reid is offering an important warning, and I for one am interested in doing my part to help in this time of crisis.  For any of you ladies living with unemployed boyfriends, please think of your safety!  Send me a current picture (preferably in underwear/swimsuit), a short essay on what skills you bring to make a man happy, and a copy of your last two years' tax returns.  As an employed man, I will be selecting one or two of you to rescue, to live with me and share my bed without fear of domestic abuse.  Why?  Because I'm a giver.

Posted by: Reactionary at February 22, 2010 06:00 PM (4nbyM)

62 2 Oh, and screw my ostrich sock puppet. Tell your stupid ostrich to stay away from my gig or I'll punch him in the face.

Posted by: The Chicken at February 22, 2010 06:01 PM (DSeA5)

63

The most valuable effect of the internet will be making it easier to thow out career congressmen.

And porn.

Posted by: Cincinnatus at February 22, 2010 06:02 PM (euuyg)

64

Dear Harry Reid,

Men who are abusers are abusers regardless of the monetary/employment situation.

 Oh, and fuck you very much for your crap pop psychiatry.

Sincerely,

Di

Posted by: di butler, non-libtard bitch at February 22, 2010 06:05 PM (S3xX1)

65

"Fallacy of Incomplete Samples?"  "Hasty generalizations"?

You mean like Scott Brown voting with the enemy as "proving" the Dems have bipartisan support for their idiocy!!!

Puh_LEEEZ!

 

 

Posted by: effinayright at February 22, 2010 06:05 PM (U/ul8)

66
Senator Reid (spit) will be out of work soon enough so let's see how that goes.

Posted by: maverick muse at February 22, 2010 06:09 PM (H+LJc)

67 I know about the SNL skit, but...I mean...it's The Anchoress.  Sigh.

Posted by: Wolfwood at February 22, 2010 06:10 PM (NyqJb)

68 What do you mean, I'm fired?!!!!

Posted by: Ike Turner at February 22, 2010 06:12 PM (1EZ8w)

69 Harry Reid is an idiot.  Who knew?

Posted by: Laura Castellano at February 22, 2010 06:12 PM (fuw6p)

70 What Reid is really saying is that black men are abusive when they're out of work.

He's just using the code word "men" when he really means "black men."

Posted by: someguy at February 22, 2010 06:16 PM (VRJIW)

71 When Harry is voted out, he plans on beating his wife doesn't he...

Posted by: torabora at February 22, 2010 06:20 PM (sOd9/)

72 Imagine the BITCH SLAPPING OPIE TOOK when Michelle Obama lost her LAW LICENSE.

Posted by: gus at February 22, 2010 06:20 PM (MaqIC)

73 Math is hard...so is my dick when I think about spending OPM!

Posted by: Harry Reid at February 22, 2010 06:22 PM (sOd9/)

74 For Christ's sake, please vote for my asshole husband! He's got 30 pounds and a five inch reach advantage on me!

Posted by: Mrs. Harry Reid at February 22, 2010 06:26 PM (ooyc8)

75 Will B+rack fall off the couch eating a pretzel and get a black eye?

Posted by: torabora at February 22, 2010 06:27 PM (sOd9/)

76 They also cause volcanoes, hurricanes, and earthquakes. Also, they are responsible for my coffee tasting a little funny.

Posted by: arhooley at February 22, 2010 06:32 PM (LrI1R)

77

This is like the feminist tripe about how the superbowl is the biggest day of domestic abuse in america.

Lesbians watch the Super Bowl? Who knew?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at February 22, 2010 06:32 PM (ooyc8)

78 Oh, come on.  A good woman knows how to keep her man in line.

Posted by: Dr. Amy Bishop at February 22, 2010 06:35 PM (vSncj)

79 Reid should spend an hour in my shoes. I've been out of work for well over a year now and while I'm not happy about it, I'm coping very well. I've managed to get to my senior year of college (only took 30 years) and I've been able to give my wife the care she needs. She is bedridden with debilitating problems and I've learned to look at this past year or so as a gift from God. The only things I'd like to be abusive about are the problems she has. I can fix most machines but I don't know shit about the workings of the human body. 

Posted by: Bill R. at February 22, 2010 06:37 PM (EhlQq)

80 I'd like to see Harry Reid without a job after November.

Posted by: Lily at February 22, 2010 06:38 PM (igSv+)

81 Oh, and one last thought, lets see how Reid reacts when he's put out of work in November!

Posted by: Bill R. at February 22, 2010 06:39 PM (EhlQq)

82

"Women don't have jobs either, but women arenÂ’t abusive, most of the time," he said.

He's right.

Posted by: elaine bobbit at February 22, 2010 06:46 PM (2qU2d)

83

I agree that Reid needs to be out of a job after the elections in November.  I almost said "out of work", but he doesn't work now.

Posted by: polly at February 22, 2010 06:49 PM (/oEAz)

84

p.s. The Anchoress is the person who made the hasty generalization about Brown. (on Twitter)

She acted stupidly.

And inconsistently, making the same error.

Within a few hours.

Posted by: effinayright at February 22, 2010 06:50 PM (U/ul8)

85 Posted by: Bill R. at February 22, 2010 10:37 PM (EhlQq)

Kudos.  All the best to you and your wife!

Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at February 22, 2010 07:02 PM (2pjaO)

86 My only hope is that the prick in question reads this site!

Posted by: alaska trash at February 22, 2010 07:06 PM (f7y5k)

87 Yep, he's an asshat.

Posted by: unknown jane at February 22, 2010 07:11 PM (5/yRG)

88

Barbara Boxer should find Reid's comment heartening.  Not because she would think it's pro-woman, but because it proves that someone in Congress is actually dumber than she is.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at February 22, 2010 07:19 PM (xIqkW)

89

Hey when Harry Reid is a worthless piece of shit (which he is) he compensates for it by abusing all of us.

 

 

Posted by: Obama Lover Not at February 22, 2010 07:21 PM (ktYjH)

90 Yep, personal experience with wife on husband violence. The father of my ex-wife repeatedly beat her up as a child to the point she left home at 14. She became the abuser in her adulthood. Back in the day, while I was sitting in a chair, wife came up behind me and cracked me over the head by slinging a telephone by its cord. It took all of my self-control to not stand up and knock her flat. There was enough reason left in me to instead call the cops and let them handle her. While waiting for the police, I tried to leave the house, but she jumped in the doorway in front of me to block the door. I took her by both shoulders and lifted her out of the way. She told the cops that I threw her to the ground and harmed her. Total lie. Having been taught from my youth to not hit women, I do not....regardless how much the temptation might be. Based on my own experience, I cannot help but believe that a significant percentage of complaints of domestic violence against men were actually instigated by women. After all, who are the authorities going to believe...that a 6'2" 200 pounder was assaulted by a 5'6" 130 lb woman... or the other way around? To no surprise, Reid reveals his bigoted self, spouting utter bravo sierra.

Posted by: personal experience at February 22, 2010 07:31 PM (Cd1LY)

91 I grew up in Nevada. He should be first in line for retroactive abortion! I don't believe in it , however, in his case i would make an exception!

Posted by: alaska trash at February 22, 2010 07:36 PM (f7y5k)

92 Harry Reid 2010: Vote for me, or I'll beat up my wife.

Posted by: 5th Level Fighter at February 22, 2010 07:41 PM (SgL5z)

93 Are there any out-of-work men that would rather beat Harry Reid's ass than their girlfriends or wives? I think most men would prefer stomping Harry.

Posted by: FatBaldnSassy at February 22, 2010 07:50 PM (YiECU)

94 I call 'projection' on Harry "The war is lost" Reid's part, considering his routine abuse of the American people, civility, and the English language.

Posted by: Tom in Korea at February 22, 2010 07:54 PM (nS7nk)

95

Good time for Mrs. Reid to start brushing up on her self-defense moves, LOL.

Heh.

Posted by: Amy Bishop at February 22, 2010 07:56 PM (PX4Qb)

96 aye carumba

Posted by: rdbrewer at February 22, 2010 07:58 PM (PX4Qb)

97 I'm not sure which is "best in life:" hearing Harry Reid's concession speech on November 2nd, or hearing the results of the Minority Leader election in January. Schadenfreude, either way.

Posted by: PKO Strany at February 22, 2010 08:23 PM (1rQWu)

98 Hairy Reid has made a mistake here and taken to our politics a cosmologizing of his own deficiencies.

Posted by: Bill Bennett at February 22, 2010 08:35 PM (l1oyw)

99 There's a "MRS" Harry Reid?!? Yeah. Sure. Pull the other one -- it's got bells on.

Posted by: Sasquatch at February 22, 2010 08:47 PM (l1oyw)

100 83

"Women don't have jobs either, but women arenÂ’t abusive, most of the time," he said.

He's right.

Posted by: elaine bobbit at February 22, 2010 10:46 PM (2qU2d) 

She's right, you know.


Posted by: Tonya Harding at February 22, 2010 08:51 PM (5qJM5)

101 "Did The Anchoress seriously just call him an "ignorant slut?"  I'm not entirely sure I like that from her..."

Playing off of SNL.

Posted by: Thea at February 22, 2010 08:58 PM (/3dGX)

102

And does anyone here recall the study from several years ago that the MSM buried because it stated that abusive husbands were often abused as children by their mothers? We can't have anything against the woman as victim meme getting out, can we? But the studies that define down "abuse" to include yelling and the like were and are front-page news.

Posted by: andycanuck at February 22, 2010 09:00 PM (2qU2d)

103 I bet Harry Reid caresses and fawns over his Senate Majority Leader door handle like Judge Smails does his Billy Baroo putter in Caddyshack

Posted by: rdbrewer at February 22, 2010 09:13 PM (PX4Qb)

104

I'm thinking that this could be a hilarious campaign ad.

Recall the scene from Blazing Saddles where Clevon Little pulls his gun and holds himself hostage?

Ok, we start with a clip of Reid saying

 "Men. when they are out of work, tend to become abusive."

Follow that with a clip of Little holding a gun to his own head and saying:

 "Do what he say!  Do what he say!"

With the subtitle of "Mrs. Harry Reid"

OK, at least I amused myself.

Posted by: Thresherman at February 22, 2010 09:27 PM (1kwr2)

105 Wow.  It would seem that people have no self control and that once their jobs are gone, they have nothing left but abuse of others.  Wow.  What a way to get reelected.

Posted by: timothyJ at February 22, 2010 09:30 PM (IKKIf)

106 #99 LOL, I see what u did there.

Posted by: LizLem at February 22, 2010 09:48 PM (DSeA5)

107 Reid is characterizing an entire group of people (men) based on his personal experience.

This made me think of the clips of the first Klingon claiming she doesn't watch the news, and prefers to form her opinions from personal experience.  Considering the sort of miscreants she and the Won are surrounded by, yeah, I sense a certain amount of danger in the situation.  Maybe her and this Reid jerk out to get out among humans once in a while.

Posted by: kurtilator at February 22, 2010 10:32 PM (juh4Z)

108 Reid can come live with me. I'll show him domestic violence. His new hat will have no brim. Colonscopy, self inspection style. Cocksucker.

Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at February 22, 2010 10:43 PM (4/RPk)

109

So, is Mrs. Reid gonna be "falling down" a lot more come January, Harry?

Reid 2010: Vote For Me or I'll Beat My Wife!

Posted by: SuperCool at February 22, 2010 10:44 PM (DRsTV)

110 And does anyone here recall the study from several years ago that the MSM buried because it stated that abusive husbands were often abused as children by their mothers?

My mother was kind. Never bitch slapped me more than twice a week. Had she known Reid, Frank, Pelosi...it might have gotten bad.

Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at February 22, 2010 10:47 PM (4/RPk)

111 spammed again.

Posted by: wherestheparty at February 23, 2010 12:34 AM (ucq49)

112

Women are just as likely as men to institute physical violence? Maybe. But men are more likely to seriously injure or kill a woman because of their disproportionate strength.

By the way most violent percentage of domestic abuses occur between two gay men. There you have two people equally capable of inflicting real harm.

(Women have more automobile accidents than men. But men are involved in more fatalities by auto..likely because they are more likely to engage in reckless behavior and speed.)

 

Posted by: Yes, however at February 23, 2010 12:38 AM (GkYyh)

113 Sorry, Gabe, but it's a true generalization and everybody knows it.  Just cause Reid says it and you don't like Reid doesn't make it untrue.  You are guilty of Ad hominem ... at the man.

Worse, you're falling into the liberal trap of not allowing us humans to use our inductive reasoning skills.  With them, we make logical leaps, inferences, see patterns, etc.  It's true our generalizations may be wrong but it's also true that generalizations are very helpful in understanding complex situations.

Stop being a liberal, Gabe.

Posted by: ArcticBoy at February 23, 2010 02:12 AM (4fc2a)

114 "I met with some people while I was home dealing with domestic abuse. It has gotten out of hand," Reid said on the Senate floor. "Why? Men don't have jobs."

Harry Fuckface does a good job of avoiding the question of what have he and his dicksuck commiecrat cronies done to create a situation in which private companies aren't hiring; hint:  That POS "jobs" bill yesterday didn't do a fucking thing to help out. I'm sure whatever troof-to-power MSM drone had that question right on the tip of his tongue to ask, though.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 23, 2010 03:00 AM (ypGDY)

115 it's actually called "availability bias" if you assume reid was acting in good faith. see tversky & khannemann. i'm sure i spelled that wrong, but the article is called judgment under uncertainty.

Posted by: Contributor X at February 23, 2010 03:06 AM (UsHD8)

116 #14, here's video. Reconstruct the link because I won't play the Man's "Tiny URL" game. www.hulu.com/watch/2306/ saturday-night-live-point-counterpoint- lee-marvin-and-michelle-triola It was only one of a series of them: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weekend_Update# Jane_Curtin_.281976-1980.29

Posted by: The Chap in the Deerstalker Cap at February 23, 2010 03:06 AM (bSzpw)

117 Domestic violence is actually about 44% by the women, including murders. Women are rarely punished for killing their husbands, though. Most children abuse is by the mother.

None of that plays well on TV, though.

Posted by: Looking Glass at February 23, 2010 03:27 AM (IfMnA)

118 Harry Reid recalls his own experience growing up with an abusive, alcoholic mining father who was unemployed at times. Reid's mother was not abusive to him, though she was over stressed and doing housecleaning for grocery money.

Reid's generation believed and still responds as if  when there's a job opening, a man has more right to it than a woman, because the man is the breadwinner in the family.

Posted by: maverick muse at February 23, 2010 03:38 AM (H+LJc)

119 So is ol Harry gonna start whoopin up on his wife come November?  Does he even have a wife?

Posted by: kawfytawk at February 23, 2010 04:28 AM (NPvz/)

120 Relax.  Evolution + natural selection will deal with Harry and his ilk, the only drawback id the lengthy process involved.

Posted by: irongrampa at February 23, 2010 05:00 AM (ud5dN)

121 At the next town hall in Vegas, everyone should get together, man and woman alike, and beat Harry Reid's ass.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at February 23, 2010 05:07 AM (mHQ7T)

122 I can just hear Obama now, "Damn.. well, at least this time it wasn't Biden again."

Posted by: Redneck Klingon at February 23, 2010 05:09 AM (e8T35)

123 Reid's generation believed and still responds as if  when there's a job opening, a man has more right to it than a woman, because the man is the breadwinner in the family.

And that's never been entirely true.  Women (with the exception of a few well-off white women) have always worked for money to support themselves or their families...and not just widows and spinsters.  Farm wives have always contributed to the bottom line, city women took in piecework or washing or went out to work in factories or offices.  And not just for "material extras" like the conservatives who hate working women like to decry, but for better nutrition and education for their children.

Good time for Mrs. Reid to start brushing up on her self-defense moves, LOL.

+eleventy

Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 23, 2010 05:11 AM (mR7mk)

124 Reid is going to be out of work after the next election. Is he telegraphing his intentions for his own time of unemployment?

Posted by: t.ferg at February 23, 2010 05:54 AM (nF4Jh)

125

The "abuse goes up when the men are jobless" is a bunch of bunk (not saying it doesn't happen, but) right now a lot of the homeless shelters are overcrowded (it isn't that people have lost their homes a lot of times; it's that they can't pay to heat the damn things, or they've had their water shut off)...what do you do when you can't afford a hotel room and the homeless shelters that allow families are overcrowded?  Momma gets in touch with the domestic violence shelter, says she's been beaten by Daddy and is afraid for her and the kids -- Daddy goes to the shelter that takes in the drunks (or sleeps in a tent in the woods or in the family car), Mommy and kids goe to the domestic violence shelter...everybody stays warm and has running water for at least a couple of weeks (except for Daddy potentially), and usually they get some welfare food and healthcare on top of it.  The family plays russian roulette with the state social workers not investigating them and causing trouble.

Feminists and statist handwringers go all a flutter over "rising domestic violence", and Daddy gets a bad rep even though Daddy is the one who often suggest doing it to keep his babies warm.

 

Posted by: unknown jane at February 23, 2010 05:55 AM (5/yRG)

126

And not just for "material extras" like the conservatives who hate working women like to decry, but for better nutrition and education for their children.

Wow.. first I lack self control and will likely beat my wife if I lose my job, and now I "hate working women" too.  Apparently I have a lot of issues I never even knew about.

Boy I'm so glad I have so many liberals around to tell me how I think and what I feel about stuff like this. 

Posted by: Redneck Klingon at February 23, 2010 06:06 AM (e8T35)

127 One of the craziest things I have ever seen: I was playing in a bar in East Baltimore. The bouncer was this heavily tattooed, man-moutain, ex-marine. His wife, all of abut 5' 2", 110lbs., come in and is pissed off and procedes to kick the shit out of him. He never lifted a hand againt her. In front of everbody, it was sad man. The verbal assault alone was frightening as hell. The dude ended up quiting his job he was so embarrased.

Posted by: Pawn at February 23, 2010 06:13 AM (HFCzz)

128

137  depends, what was she pissed off at him for?!

 

Posted by: unknown jane at February 23, 2010 06:17 AM (5/yRG)

129 I don't know what it was. The point of the story is that many men will reflexively take abuse from women. If it was a man that was pissed of, even righteously, he would have had his ass kicked.

She was probably pissed of at him because he was such a pussy and wouldn't fight back.

Posted by: Pawn at February 23, 2010 06:35 AM (HFCzz)

130 Maybe that was Dingy Harry's way of begging his constituents not to make him jobless.

Posted by: Robin at February 23, 2010 06:39 AM (6uXZa)

131 And yet, Harry Reid wants to have an amnesty bill. Hmmm....

Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 23, 2010 06:47 AM (ujg0T)

132

139  True that, and perhaps part of the problem.  I don't believe in violence or beating up on women. As a woman, however, I have to say: if some bitch decides she's going to start punching on you, just because she thinks she can get away with it -- lay her out.  If a woman is going to play the "I'm just as rough and tough as you are" and dish out whup ass, then she'd better be willing and able to take it.  Might make for some civility and personal good manners working their way back into our society.

Guess I'm a true feminist, huh?

**that said, I've already let my husband know that if he seriously transgressed on something serious (like beating the kids or cheating on me)...he'd be a dead man; not that he would vecause he isn't that sort of person, but just in case he started thinking about it (same for me likewise, not that I would because I'm not that way, but if I started thinking about it -- a relationship with mutually assured destruction is a polite relationship!)

Posted by: unknown jane at February 23, 2010 06:48 AM (5/yRG)

133 38 In fact women are as likely to initiate violence on partners.

I can attest to this from personal experience.

Posted by: Barack Obabe at February 22, 2010 09:44 PM (xVKXy)

 

Me too.

 

Posted by: John Edwards at February 23, 2010 06:48 AM (fRnux)

134 137 Pawn wrote, "One of the craziest things I have ever seen: I was playing in a bar in East Baltimore. The bouncer was this heavily tattooed, man-moutain, ex-marine. His wife, all of abut 5' 2", 110lbs., come in and is pissed off and procedes to kick the shit out of him. He never lifted a hand againt her. In front of everbody, it was sad man. The verbal assault alone was frightening as hell. The dude ended up quiting his job he was so embarrased."

  If he raised his hand against her he goes to jail under the Violence Against Women Act (VAWA). If she hurts herself hitting him, he goes to jail under VAWA.

Posted by: Looking Glass at February 23, 2010 06:54 AM (IfMnA)

135

144 Yeah, and VAWA is turning women into a bunch of spoiled rotten little girly bitches...what happens when you remove consequences from actions?

**and could end up getting more women truly hurt -- because if you're going to serve the same jail sentence for a slap as you would for a jawbuster, then which are you going to do?

Posted by: unknown jane at February 23, 2010 07:00 AM (5/yRG)

136

OMG! All men become abusers if they lose their jobs!!!! OMG!  Wait- no they don't.  Whew! Common sense saves the day again.

Posted by: awoman at February 23, 2010 07:06 AM (x3oLQ)

137

Men tend to become Abusive when their freedom is threatened.

You know what else Men become abusive about?...........Pudding Theft!

Posted by: Jimi at February 23, 2010 07:17 AM (fqxV7)

138

It really isn't funny -- the way society has gotten there's already akin to a bounty on men's heads; this statement doesn't help (because you just know the meme will be taken up and ran with).

Even something innocent can become fodder: some years ago my husband threw my coat to me; unfortunately the car keys were in the coat and I got smacked in the eye by them, true if strange story; I cussed and he apologized (even though it was an accident) we laughed about the shiner I got later.  Cut to the next day at work: I had to fend off a bunch of concerned women (mostly, but a couple of men) hand wringers "did he huuuurt you???!!!???"...and trying to get these idiots to believe it was an accident?  hah! because we all know as a battered woman I'd feel compelled to lie about it.  Talk about a hassle!  And it pissed me off, because 1)I wasn't believed; 2)the implication was that my husband was some kind of abusing monster (and these people didn't know him other than he had just gotten back from a deployment, oh noes) and that I was some kind of delicate little victimized flower who couldn't take care of herself (hey, thanks for thinking so little of me there co-workers, that I can't fend for myself at least a little); and then the offering to take me to the doctor or call the authorities -- wtf?? It was like they were just going to go ahead and judge my husband over my account and get started on lynching him...that's how people's lives are ruined; that's how family's are ruined, and it doesn't matter because a bunch of goody goodniks want to feel good about themselves (and the state loves them some goody goodniks to help keep control of things).

Fortunately, they realized they were getting me pissed and didn't do anything on their own for my benefit...but after that I wasn't seen in the same light, and they treated my husband like he was some sort of wild animal that I (foolishly) kept in my house...oh my frakking good grief.

Posted by: unknown jane at February 23, 2010 07:27 AM (5/yRG)

139 @unknown jane,

  No, it isn't funny. It's going to get worse before it gets better.

Posted by: Looking Glass at February 23, 2010 07:31 AM (IfMnA)

140 Hell my ex-wife used to clock me in the head all the time.  I'd have to go into the bathroom and have a dramatic Lifetime network moment curled up in the bath tub crying. 

If indeed the domestic abuse centers are jammed full of unemployed woman, then wouldn't it stand to chance that they are saying they are being beat on just to get a free place to stay and food to eat?  I mean, they don't have a job and they're sick and tired of there lazy good for nothing husband that keeps spending the baby formula money on Schlitz.  So, kill 2 birds with one stone by getting rid of your bastard of a husband and get a free place to stay for a while.

Posted by: HeftyJo at February 23, 2010 07:57 AM (ckQml)

141

What is this douchebaggery?

This is a small statistical sampling but only slightly less than Reid's. When I was out of work for three months, I got up, dropped the kids off at school, looked for a job, did stuff around the house, looked some more for a job, played cheap golf, picked the kids up and made dinner.

There was no domestic violence.

Unfortunately for him, not everyone can fit into Reid's fantasies.

Posted by: Max Entropy at February 23, 2010 08:01 AM (uuZjB)

142

UJ, and some women are unscrupulous enough to use that knee-jerk response if they get angry and want to strike out.  I had an MTBI a while back and a broken hip, both from falling down the stairs.  The MTBI made for vomit-inducing vertigo.  So, for two very good reasons, I couldn't walk.  I got to the bathroom by crawling on the floor after a controlled fall from the bed.  Even crawling, I did the occasional faceplant.  Nevertheless, I got accused of chasing my ex.  This was three days later.  I couldn't have chased a dozing paraplegic turtle stuck in vat of nougat after an all-night quaalude bender. 

Some people can justify any bad behavior when they're angry, and in that situation prejudices of whatever type--in this case, against men--can easily be used to manipulate opinion.

Re the stats on women and violence:  I wonder how skewed the results are if men are less inclined to report real violence out of embarressment and if women are more inclined to report violence even when there isn't any. 

Posted by: rdbrewer at February 23, 2010 08:04 AM (8JTuK)

143 So I'm wondering how long Harry Reid has been abusing the women in his life, employed or not.

http://tinyurl.com/yhlhk72

Posted by: azlibertarian at February 23, 2010 08:23 AM (fGtbP)

144 My ex wife has Borderline Personality Disorder. I've been slapped, beaten with whatever happened to be handy, screamed at, held at knifepoint, and emotionally abused on top of that.

Then, some other poor bastard caught her interest, she decided to abandon me before I "abandoned" her (that's one of their big hang-ups), and on the way out she went into full slash-and-burn mode.

Fortunately, I got out of it with a restraining order that was later thrown out of court.  That didn't stop her from putting obscene lies into the filed paperwork, stealing my car and driving it to Detroit to be impounded, or one of a hundred other nasty things to cover her own ass.

One night before she took off she carried on so badly that one of the neighboring apartments called the cops.  They came in with weapons drawn when I answered the door.  Thank GOD she didn't injure herself or claim I did anything to her, though they tried to get her to say that.  I'm thinking it just hadn't occurred to her yet.

I dodged a real bullet.  Society's bias against men both in the criminal justice system and in family court is getting people ruined, injured, and killed. 

Posted by: grognard at February 23, 2010 11:03 AM (v0kvW)

145 Oops, forgot the most important part.  Therefore, Harry Reid can go fuck himself.

Posted by: grognard at February 23, 2010 11:04 AM (v0kvW)

146 If a woman is going to play the "I'm just as rough and tough as you are" and dish out whup ass, then she'd better be willing and able to take it.  Might make for some civility and personal good manners working their way back into our society.

Posted by: unknown jane at February 23, 2010 10:48 AM (5/yRG)

 

IF ONLY you have prescribed the cure to DOCTOR AMY FISHER earlier.

Posted by: always right at February 23, 2010 11:10 AM (UzjcV)

147 I took my wife to a neurosurgeon for a consultation about recurring shoulder pain. When I stepped out of the examination room to get a drink the nurse rushed in and asked about domestic violence. My wife didn't know what the hell the stupid harpy was talking about, and was honestly puzzled why the question was germane to pretty much anything.

I'll accept our society's mania about domestic violence when I am asked about it when I go in for a sprained ankle or a broken finger. Until then, fuck 'em all.

Posted by: NJConservative at February 23, 2010 01:04 PM (/Ywwg)

148 "Men, when they're out of work, tend to become abusive," the majority leader added. "Our domestic crisis shelters in Nevada are jammed.”

If Reid were to show up at a NV employment office in Vegas, he'd probably see abuse up close.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at February 23, 2010 01:15 PM (Q75cY)

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