OK, confession, early on I actually implied me might be ghey because we never saw his wife.

Wonder why he never let out why his wife wasn't around til late in the game?  Guess everyone in MA knew why, just the morons outside MA had the questions.

Don't count Brown out. Don't believe the polls. This is winnable. Believe.

That was me, TYVM.  I take full credit for the win.

Naven, \

nothing wrong with a fat chick......especially since you woke up with no chick. Just sayin!

Posted by: Intrepid at January 20, 2010 11:44 AM (92zkk)

TIME TO TAKE ON HARRY! Babs can fall too, but HARRY MUST GO IN 2010!

Not a bad first press conference.

Came across as genuinely moderate but common sense and anti-Obamism agenda.

Boxer is next.

PLEEEEEEEASE let Boxer be next.

Dude my head is killing me. I just got to work at 1145. I was up shotgunning beers until 12. I blame all of you! Nah just kidding.

I haven't bothered watching any Coakley interviews.  Hope she doesn't get her hair caught in the driveshaft or get burned too badly by the exhaust pipe of the bus.

For once I purposefully watched msnbc last night just to enjoy the lib meltdown. God it was sweet.

So did I. Did you catch Chrissy Matthews' labored sigh at the beginning of his segment from the bar? He looked like his dog just died.

Schadenfreudially delicious!

Has anybody seen Dagny? He/she should have the results of yesterday's margin-of-victory pool.

There was something in next week's today's Headline thread, I think.

56 Arlen will have an opponent in the Dem primary - Joe Sestak. I'm going to register Dem so I can cast my vote for Arlen. (PA has closed primaries.)

NOBODY wants Specter. Sestak has a better chance of winning against Toomey so he has to be eliminated.

TWO: I fully support the guy, but on substance, what/how much separates Scott Brown from the dreaded RINO.  I am serious.

--Well, multiple threads can be devoted to this.  FWIW, to take the example of abortion, his opposition to the health care bill alone will result in fewer abortions and I'm willing to settle for better instead of perfect (which you won't get in this lifetime from MA) for now.

Posted by: Intrepid at January 20, 2010 11:58 AM (92zkk)

Not so. This state is CRAWLING with libs out of Cali these days. They will fight to the death to keep this Majority Leader seat. They HOPE we sit back and let it ride without the same hard fiahgt it took in MA. The NV Republican party is not very well organized. AND we are broke as a joke here since OBAMA effectively shut down the convention business. Getting Harry out will be every bit as hard as getting Boxer. This is a Mormon State. Harry uses that to his advantage. I am sorry, intrepid, but without the nation behind getting Harry out, it will be business as usual here in Nevada.

I will be one of the only people to admit I NEVER thought he would win. Not even yesterday. I thought he was going to lose until about 9 pm with some 50 percent of the vote in.

Can you blame me? It is a democratic state. It is a machine state. They have NO republicans in the house of representatives. It was Ted Kennedy's seat for 40 some years. The fate of Obamacare(which i assumed Mass would support) hung in the balance. I still can barely wrap my head around this man winning.

More on the Kennedy seat thing. I've been trying to think of a comparison for republicans but I can't.  Is there any seat held by one Republican or Republican family for over 40 years? how about 30? or 20?

This seat was the Kennedy seat. This was more of a House of Lords seat than an American Senate seat and the democrats lost it. And obfuscate as they might, it is clear why. They can't blame low turnout as the turnout for this race was as high as the 2006 midterms. This win will be in a history book 50 years from now. I know we were all excited about the NJ Gov win, but that doesn't even hold a candle to this Massachusetts election.

I am enjoying the crow. It tastes great in this instance.

Posted by: Vic at January 20, 2010 11:50 AM (QrA9E)

Posts, threads will be obstacles to evil, The old flame of anger unappeased: To run in Morontown; this as of oracles, Aces, shaven sect.

Posted by: Bosk at January 20, 2010 11:57 AM (pUO5u)

--My first ever foray into Kozland will always be my sweetest.

TWO: I fully support the guy, but on substance, what/how much separates Scott Brown from the dreaded RINO.  I am serious.
Posted by: ParisParamus at January 20, 2010 11:54 AM (bN5ZU)

From what I heard last night he certainly didn't run as a RINO. I don't know much about his legislative past from the MA legislature, but you can't know for certain what he'll do until he gets to DC. I am also a firm believer that a lot of these RINO concerns would go away if we had a strong, conservative leader for the party. A lot of our RINO problems the last few years derived from Bush not being a conservative.

At the end of the day, the choice was him or Coakley. You know what you're getting with Coakley, so at least you have a chance with this guy.

Posted by: Mjim at January 20, 2010 12:05 PM (V8B//)

It'd be a blockbuster- no doubt about it, but I don't think they would ever do it...

TWO: I fully support the guy, but on substance, what/how much separates Scott Brown from the dreaded RINO.  I am serious.
 ParisParamus at January 20, 2010 11:54 AM (bN5ZU)

I watched his entire victory speech, and I had previously read all the stuff on his website. The guy seems very genuine, and frankly, pretty far from a RINO. He is a little rough around the edges, but i was pretty damned impressed. He is against everything I am against, and for a lot of the things I am for. But I also think he has a natural charisma, and a real ability to connect to an audience. Television is very kind to him, he comes over very well. Is he an absolute hard-core fiscal and social conservative? I don't know. But without claiming any prescience, I have a feeling this guy might go a long way. Of course, as my wife constantly reminds me,"if I am so smart, why ain't we rich?"

57 She.

See 368 happy anniversary thread

Posted by: logprof at January 20, 2010 12:06 PM (gJL6J)

Next time we knock down ALL the reporters.

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at January 20, 2010 12:08 PM (UOM4

We support officers when they shoot the troops.

Anyone else have a huge hangover?

"The most self-unaware post at Kos was easily the one where someone was complaining that the Repubs were mean and the Dems were playing too nice. "

I was listening  to Ron Reagan ( the lib? one of the Reagans  on the way home from work and he was parroting this same line. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. The projection from the talking heads on the left is beyond belief.

Posted by: Andy at January 20, 2010 12:16 PM (5Rurq)

Ace has a beautiful head of hair.  (Or is that a real lace wig?)

Posted by: logprof at January 20, 2010 12:01 PM (gJL6J)

Indeed, getting anyone to the right of center in MA is a big win. Having someone like Lyndsey Graham in SC though? Now that RINO needs to go...

Notice that he has his pudding at the ready.

I was going to say "how do we know that's his head," but then you see the pudding...

Posted by: Rahm at January 20, 2010 12:21 PM (RD7QR)

Yeah?  Well who just got teabagged?

Scott Brown mentioned that in his speech last night.  It was kind of like "look out all you Dems, I'm coming after you."  Even Sunday's Seattle Times had an article that Patty Murray (though probably safe) could possibly be affected by a Brown win in Mass.  Heh!  Wake up Bitches, your houses are on fire!

Posted by: Rahm at January 20, 2010 12:21 PM (RD7QR)

We Democrats have always hated Radical Republicans from Massachusetts.

This is why I changed my mind on term limits. It should be 2 terms and then out, for all elective offices. The men who founded this country viewed them as temporary gigs, not lifetime sinecures.

Can you imagine how much corruption would be avoided and done away with if we had term limits? 

Yeah?  Well who just got teabagged?

Posted by: AmishDude at January 20, 2010 12:23 PM (T0NGe)

Me!

Posted by: Mikey at January 20, 2010 12:22 PM (TJoID)

You are doing it wrong

Can you imagine how much corruption would be avoided and done away with if we had term limits? 

Posted by: katya at January 20, 2010 12:25 PM (wlIwS)

That's one of Jim DeMint's top issues and, you're right, it would change everything.  Sadly, I don't see how it could ever come about. 

He is a little rough around the edges

I like that though.  It means he's not a career or dynasty politician.  He hasn't been polished to a high, hard sheen.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 20, 2010 12:29 PM (SqAkN)

Apparently the electorate CAN be pushed too far. And from the sounds of it, Obama's decided he isn't pushing hard enough.

Posted by: ParisParamus at January 20, 2010 12:16 PM (bN5ZU)

--I agree.  I just take Brown's extensive NG service as an indicator of character since I am no longer a Nay Stater.  In any case, the voters in every state will be scrutinizing him like no other so I am hoping that alone will keep him from freelancing too much.

Also went over to the kos site, stuck out my tongue and went "nyah-nyah-nyah-nyah-nyah", and they got even more pissed off than the firedoglake chicks. Then, i took off, because they started chasing me!

Posted by: gomm at January 20, 2010 12:24 PM (Ibk1S)

--Which thread?  I want to see it before it gets deleted!

btw, did anyone catch olberdouche's non-apology last night to Brown? Some day all this hate is going to catch up to him in a bad way and I hope someone catches it on youtube.

Posted by: Ken Royall at January 20, 2010 12:37 PM (9zzk+)

--Just think of all the millions of dollars spent --without even going into the political capital the president expended-- by the Dems to keep this seat.  Even if  Brown had somehow lost, the treasure spent by the Dems on the rearguard action would have been a bruise.  (Historical analogy: Think of how much more smoothly and early Germany's invasion of the USSR would have gone if Yugoslavia and Greece weren't such pains in the asses earlier and Italy was not so inept.)

As it is, we plundered their countryside and captured a stronghold!  Onward, ho!

Former Bush adviser Karl Rove said Democrats, in their postmortem, have focused too heavily on blaming Coakley. He said Brown won because he put himself on the opposite side of the issues from Democrats in Washington. 

"They're trying to say this is all the result of a bad candidate, but look, she was the attorney general of the state. ... She's won statewide, she's been a political fixture in Massachusetts," Rove said. "Simply being a bad candidate has not kept Democrats from winning Massachusetts. Michael Dukakis was governor twice, for God's sake."

"President Bush deserves our respect, not our betrayal.

For national security, yes.

For nearly every domestic issue,  no.

Conservatives would be idiots to forget what he did to conservatism and the GOP.

151 President Reagan must spin in his grave every time that dipshit Ronbellina Jr. opens his pie hole. 

Wonder if Teddy enjoyed his front row seat in hell last night? 

PLEEEEZE don't attach Jr. to that tiny dancer. He is no measure of his father. Mustta ett something odd and corrupted a few sperm before he shot that one off.

Right now I am savoring the thought that an era has ended.

I grew up in an Irish Catholic family on the east coast, where homes really did have a picture of Pope John next a picture of John Kennedy, and my parents & grandparents were tremendously proud that one of their own was in power.

I held a different opinion from a young age, and was repulsed to see such liberines and lawbreakers retain power, no matter what they did.

That changed last night.

MA is no longer a fiefdom.

Take that, Kennedys.

168 The democrats will likely have Mr. Brown on the fast track to corruption.  Let us hope this guy has a spine and some principles.

I think that he's smart enough to know that we're watching.  Now is the time to hold all of them accountable for what they do.  Both parties.  The electorate is finally awake and it is great.  The 'experts' are saying that 5 or 6 senate seats are in play this year.  I say 33 of them are.

Posted by: Jane D'oh! at January 20, 2010 12:53 PM (UOM4

Not me...I think I already have radiation poisoning.

184

Lost the olympics

Fouled up Haiti help

Apoligized for America

Didn't send troops to Afghanistan

Bowed to 2 kings

Turned over the justice dept to thugs

So how is the local Demo PR rag in Columbia adressing the MA loss?

hahahahaha; they are ignoring it totally. Not a peep.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at January 20, 2010 01:01 PM (mR7mk)

--I think Brown's wife would kick their asses anyway.  I know she could.

Slappy 156: Either that, or some would engage in corruption in a much quicker fashion to take advantage of their limited time in office. 

Exhibit: Burris, Roland.

"anybody can buy a pick-up truck"

Translation.  "let them eat cake".

The end is near. Every Republican campaign commercial should use the VIDEO of Opie the REALLY NEATO GROOVY FAKE PRESIDENT, standing with COAKLEY sneering down his nose at America.

Bingo.

No charge for my services.

gus 197, I like the cut of your jib.

Not the crease of your pants though. That would just be gay.

"Massachusetts"? What are they?

Well Brown got elected.   Does that mean his wife gets her SALARY TRIPLED.

**snicker**

Zimriel, I'm wearin Mom jeans today in honor of our first REALLY GROOVY NEAT ONE HALF BLACK PRESIDENT.

No creases required.

Re Obama and Haiti, it's early days yet and we can't say that he's "fouled it". There aren't many good answers there.

Not that I have any illusions that Obama will stumble upon any of those good answers.

Speaking of people who were on board early - Howie Carr comes to mind. His radio show was pretty much Brown for Senate Central during the entire campaign.  BTW has anyone from the MSM commented on the fact that the Mass Dems are to blame for this defeat. It's almost for certain that the Dems would have won this seat if they hadn't decided to change the law after Kennedy's death so that Deval Patrick could immediately appoint someone to take his place. Yeah but I'm probably wrong and Kos who thinks the dems weren't mean enough is probably right.

I'm counting down the minutes until  Howie Carr comes on the air - he should be in prime form today.

Posted by: Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter at January 20, 2010 11:56 AM (5r0Tz)

Just remember, there is no 'I' in Team America.

(And there are basically three typres of people.  Which are you?...)

Looking at this vast landscape of the media, Kos, and the like is intoxicating. The only down side to this is all this sweet, sweet, schadenfreude cannot be bottled.  It must be consumed fresh.

(Which is why I am gorging myself on it now...)

Can I be the first to say....

HECK OF A JOB BROWNIE!!!!!!!!

Exhibit: Burris, Roland.

Posted by: Zimriel at January 20, 2010 01:05 PM (9Sbz+)

Exactly. Great example to support the point.

Obama could import Haiti's criminals into the U.S.

He could spend CHINA'S money on the rebuilding of Haiti.

He could make a speech about the "CRIPPLING POVERTY" of Haiti.

He could make Haiti A RACE issue.

He could use HAITI to rehabilitate his BROKEN IMAGE.

He could GRANDSTAND rather than FIX UNEMPLOYMENT the ECONOMY and the WAR ON TERROR.

Shall I continue?   Odimwits FUCK-UPS are EPIC.

I want to thank everyone from up here for two great things:

1) My murderer is in hell

2) and they told him a Republican took his seat.

Don't fuck with the Devil!

There was a holdup at the Haiti airport. Planes of diplomats and politicians were landing while suppiles languished in the skies. It took several days to get help down there (which it should but remember Katrina?). The aid effort has not run smoothly, mostly because the looters are firing on the aid workers, they have one airport, and there was no structure to start with but I thought these guys thought they could do a much better job than Bush did during Katrina. Someone should advance the rumor that Obama dynamited the island core because he hates baseball or something.

Not so easy is it Obama??

dagny 224 , I genuinely didn't know how badly this was being handled.

gus 220 , if Obama does that stuff on your list, or keeps doing it, yeah, it won't help Haiti and most of it will hurt.

Thanks, guys, for putting me some knowledge.

185 Anyone brave enough to venture into the Huffpo cesspool?

I saw one of her articles up on the Yahoo front page or something, so I read it because it didn't require me funding her site with one click of ad revenue.  I stopped reading after she said that "obstructionist Republicans" were one of Obama's problems.  Those same forty obstructionists who haven't even been required to show up for work for the past year.

Huffington is one of those typical neo-liberals who can do such a fantastic job of appearing smart and well-informed but for one or two gaping holes in reasoning.