1 Hold!  Hold!  Hold!

2 Even if ObamaCare fails, the stench will remain for years.

3 But...but...but Nanny was down to 4 this weekend and she was confident she had the votes? What went wrong? Obama has been on a speaking tour and everything!

4 Obama only got 200 people today! All fainters, apparently.

5 This crap is giving me an eye twitch! 

6 Obama has been on a speaking tour and everything!

*pulls string* The time for talking is over!
*pulls string* The time for talking is over!
*pulls string* The time for talking is over!
*pulls string* The time for talking is over!
*pulls string* The time for talking is over!
*pulls string* The time for talking is over!
*dad wrests away Obama doll and crushes it like a cockroach*

7 The time for talking lying is over.

8 Healthcare is deader than Kelsey's Nuts

9 Check to see what the stuffing material is in that Obama doll? I'm curious.

10 Still not ready to get my hopes up. Fingers are crossed, tho.

11 4 Obama only got 200 people today! All fainters, apparently.

Posted by: dagny at March 15, 2010 04:36 PM (ED3Pf)

If only I could have been fortunate enough to have attended. *faints*

12 Wait! They just need another ancedote!

13 The time for talking is over.  Global warming climate change is consensus.  We have the votes to pass the bill. We don't need to vote to pass the bill.

14 Keep the pressure on!

Those bastages are chomping on a sh!t sammich and they don't like it. 
It will be great to see pigliar's distorted, botoxined commie brain explode...

15
Speaking of health care and Lindsey Graham...

Not a SINGLE Republican has gone to the floor of either the House or Senate and made the connection between illegals and soaring cost of health care for their constituents.

Fucking pussies!

16

Obamacare will end this unnecessary fainting.

17 9 Check to see what the stuffing material is in that Obama doll? I'm curious.

Posted by: dagny at March 15, 2010 04:38 PM (ED3Pf)

 

 

 

Bad batch of hemp

18 Please let this Zombie bill die! What we need is a headshot

19 If Congress deems the Senate bill to be passed, we'll just have to deem Obama to be impeached and remove him from office.  All is fair in Love and War.

20 IMPEACH

21 I hate to be a pessimist, but even if the vote fails, they'll just send it back to committee and bring out a new bill in a few weeks.  They've spent all their political capital on this for fourteen months, there's no way they could just say "Sorry, we failed.  What's the next thing we can try to destroy?"

22 I've got my fingers, toes and eyes crossed hoping this thing goes down in flames!

23 DEEM IMPEACHMENT

24 Say, you don't suppose Pelosi could get ACORN to make up some representatives to vote YEA, do you?

25 Hold! Hold! Hold! Diamond formation!

26 IMPEACH Posted by: Mjim

Yup, that's gonna happen.  Tomorrow.  Just keep hitting that note.

27  Not a SINGLE Republican has gone to the floor of either the House or Senate and made the connection between illegals and soaring cost of health care for their constituents.

Probably because they're not that stupid. Illegals comprise about 3% of the people living in this country. They may be contributing to the "soaring cost of health care", but they're certainly not a major contribution. Not even in the top 10.

28 Need to make a run to Costco to get some more popcorn. 

100 calorie mini packs go pretty damn fast, even with a box of 42!

Should I get some pudding while I am there?

29

Check to see what the stuffing material is in that Obama doll? I'm curious.

Well, it's brown and smells strangely like a horse...

30 Its pretty much all on the line here:  if the bill passes, we may as well break out the wine and start speaking French.  Its all over for American liberty.  If the bill fails, America survives and the Socialist in Chief is finished.

31 Wait! They just need another ancedote!

Have they found one yet that wasn't someone either receiving free care or deliberately choosing not to seek care?

32

"...they'll just send it back to committee and bring out a new bill in a few weeks."

And more and more of their constituents will rise against, because ...........

where's the friggin' jobs!

33 Well, the game of chicken commences.

Again, if there is no vote this week, then there probably won't ever be one.

34
even marginal changes made there would require the measure to return to the House yet again.

That's a pretty fair warning not to pursue that Slaughter idiocy.   The Barons of the Senate wouldn't take kindly to being made meaningless.

35 34 are we there yet? are we there yet? are we there yet? are we there yet? are we there yet? are we there yet?






SMACK

36

Probably because they're not that stupid. Illegals comprise about 3% of the people living in this country. They may be contributing to the "soaring cost of health care", but they're certainly not a major contribution. Not even in the top 10.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at March 15, 2010 04:45 PM (Mi2wf)

Malor...that's a hispanic name, isn't it?

They may be 3% of the overall population, but that should work out to about 20% of the uninsured.

37

What a colossal failure.

But there have been so many.  Like the Olympics.  And all that other stuff.

38

Malor...that's a hispanic name, isn't it?Posted by: nickless

Class move, Captain America.

39 This crap is giving me an eye twitch! 

Posted by: caunotacarius

 

Only one!?!?!

40 Obama doll.   Made in Kenya.

41 If ObamaCare finally fails this week, I'm going to party like it's 1999.

42 All this talk about Whips is Teh Rascist.

43

I was laid off last year.   I couldn't afford COBRA, because even tho the govt was supposed to pay 65% of my costs it was still over $200 a month for me.   Even if I could have afforded the $200, I still wouldn't have done it, because I thought it was just wrong for the govt to do that.   I feel bad enough about UE benefits, but can somewhat justify it because, hell, I've paid taxes my entire life and never taken one freakin' penny from the govt.   Still, it isn't easy for me to deal with.

Anyway, I said all that to say...I will NOT buy their fuckin' insurance & will not pay their damn fine, if this crap sandwich passes.   Healthcare is NOT a right under our Constitution.  

Fuck 'em all & the horses they rode in on.

44 god let's hope Dreier is right
let's finally drive a stake through its heart

45

Malor...that's a hispanic name, isn't it?Posted by: nickless

Class move, Captain America.

Posted by: Z Ryan at March 15, 2010 04:50 PM (cMo6P)

Palin Steele gave the Moron Mythos so much.

46
Maybe Gabe can address the correlation between hospitals in fiscal crisis in neighborhoods with heavy illegal populations?

47

Again, if there is no vote this week, then there probably won't ever be one.

Bottom line: The House has to pass the Senate bill.  If they don't, then nothing gets 60 votes in the Senate.

48 *pulls string* The time for talking is over!
*pulls string* The time for talking is over!
*pulls string* The time for talking is over!
*pulls string* The time for talking is over!
*pulls string* The time for talking is over!
*pulls string* The time for talking is over!
*dad wrests away Obama doll and crushes it like a cockroach*

Oh my God, at a Tea Party gathering that would sell like hotcakes.

49 Still way too close for comfort, and I wouldn't it put it past them to keep trying something or other right up until the day that some of them are finally thrown out of office later this year.

Plus, at what point does Obama simply try declaring ObamaCare by executive order?  That hardly seems crazier than the Slaughter approach.

50 *pulls string* The time for talking is over!
*pulls string* The time for talking is over!
*pulls string* The time for talking is over!
*pulls string* The time for talking is over!
*pulls string* The time for talking is over!
*pulls string* The time for talking is over!
*dad wrests away Obama doll and crushes it like a cockroach*

*pulls string* My name's Talking Tina and I'm going to kill you. 

Bring on the vice.

51 Okay, I thought you were seriously casting aspersions on Gabe with that line.

52 "Elderly Americans must learn to accept the inconveniences of old age."

53
Again, if there is no vote this week, then there probably won't ever be one.

They don't schedule to meet Mondays and Fridays, right?  And Wednesday is St. Paddy's day, they'll all be plastered and completely hungover Thursday.  So if they can't get it done by Tuesday it might never happen.

54

Obama doll.   Made in Kenya.

Stuffed in Pokistan

55 Heather, I really hope that someday, that doll is marketed.  I hope that it is marketed, and you make sick fistfulls of money in royalties.

56 Malor...that's a hispanic name, isn't it?

I didn't think this dump was restricted!

57 Ok, here is something I am having problems with. 

Rep. Drier: Democrats Down About 10 Votes; More Votes "Peeling Off"We keep hearing that Dems are short votes, some are flipping from Yes to No, but they seem to be still about 10 votes away.  Is that because others are changing to yes?  Or is it all just a big word game so nobody knows?

58 And Wednesday is St. Paddy's day, they'll all be plastered and completely hungover Thursday.

"Ah, njk....Do it fooorrrrrr (belch) Teddy...!"

59

Obama doll.   Made in Kenya.

Stuffed in Pokistan

By MARXISTS.

60 Pretty soon the vote count will be down 3000%

61

Reconciliation is just a ruse, folks. Once the House passes the senate bill then it is LAW.

 

Game over, we lost. We are fucked. We are going to get raped without any lube.

62

Boy Wonder today at YAHCR:

 

"How many people are getting insurance through their jobs right now, raise your hands, a lot of those folk , your employer, it's estimated would see premiums fall by as much as 3000 percent so they could give you a raise!"

 

Who still thinks this guy is intelligent?

63 Ok, say this piece of shit doesn't pass before Obama goes home to Indonesia next week.Do you guys think it's dead for good or will it rise again like some kind of zombie nightmare? I'm not so confident that it will be dead dead but maybe you Morons can reassure me.

64 "Oh my God, at a Tea Party gathering that would sell like hotcakes waffles."

65

They aren't down votes.  I mean Opie must have SAVED a couple hundred, like he did in the economy??

66 Molon, I saw that earlier and couldn't even believe what I was reading.  What an incredibly moronic statement to make.  And I also read the crowd applauded.  Gawd, are people stoopid.

67 Just as an anecdote, my father was a Trustee for the local county hospital in rural South Carolina.  He told me that 60%+ of their patients did not pay penny one against their treatment cost.  60%+.

Somebody is paying.  It's a county hospital.  How do they collect revenue?  Property taxes?  State support?  Federal support?

Somebody is paying.

68 Game over, we lost. We are fucked. We are going to get raped without any lube.

10-20% lower premiums is like lube.

69 it's estimated would see premiums fall by as much as 3000 percent so they could give you a raise!" Ah c'mon. Who would say something that stupid?

70

"it's estimated would see premiums fall by as much as 3000 percent so they could give you a raise!"

I was told there would be no math on this blog, so I am sorry for not being able to wrap my brain around this adquately....

...but isn't it impossible for the price of anything to fall more than 100%?

71
it's estimated would see premiums fall by as much as 3000 percent so they could give you a raise!"

No math is taught in the madrasas, just  memorization of the koran.

72

Here's the video of Boy Wonder's statement http://tinyurl.com/yhtmv5a

 

73

"How many people are getting insurance through their jobs right now, raise your hands, a lot of those folk , your employer, it's estimated would see premiums fall by as much as 3000 percent so they could give you a raise!"

Mine did because here in MA we already have Romneycare.  And the best estimates are that uninsured rate went from 6% to 3%.      And what about all  the MassHealth and Commonwealthcare patients with brand new cell phones, snazzy tatoos and body piercings, manicures, pedicures, designer sneakers, shoes etc. who can't pay anything for their care? 

74

Logically speaking ( crazy I know) at some point, the focus has to shift from this thing. We all realize that when asked, all of these clowns will say that they're proud of it, and that they don't mind fending it, or that this is a campaign winner. Then again, one of my Senators keeps saying the same vague, "it's not everything that we wanted, but..."

At some point, they are preaching to the base that donates money. The loudest mouths are the ones not running for re-election this year (Obama) and the one in a safe seat (Pelosi). The rest are hiding behind boilerplate. They may get coverage from the media to create an artificial 'pivot', but I doubt that this will work if this stays alive longer. Unless Obama is so self-centered that he's willing to sacrifice the majority in the House. Given his track record, and the talk about Clinton post-1994, that sadly is very possible.

75 I meant that mine was raised a gazillion percent!

76 I don't think nickless was implying that Malor was an illegal, only that he might have sympathies for his brethren, to the extent he actually is Mexican/etc.  That's understandable, since you always have people giving their ethnic compatriots the benefit of the doubt.  Hell, we had a German American BUND in this country for God's sake, and still a good portion of them went off to kill the Nazis when we went to war. 

Gabe's right that the main costs of health care are not driven primarily by illegals, but by the same token, they are a substantial cost in unnecessary ER visits (which is itself a substantial cost to teh healthcare system).  They are in fact a large disproportionate percentage of the "uninsured" and this bill uses them as silent justification for the entire abomination of Obamacare.

tarring people unjustly is a problem, but the complete insolvency of our nation is a worse prospect. 

77 "How many people are getting insurance through their jobs right now, raise your hands, a lot of those folk , your employer, it's estimated would see premiums fall by as much as 3000 percent so they could give you a raise!"

Your employer's premiums will fall by 100% when they drop you into the gummint exchanges.

And good luck on the raise.

78 Now he is saying he wants it passed by sunday

79 Shut up, his math is sound!

80 I don't think nickless was implying that Malor was an illegal, only that he might have sympathies for his brethren, to the extent he actually is Mexican/etc.

No, I was making fun of the late, lamented retarded troll and AOSHQ kickball Palin Steele, who used the same argument on Malor in an earlier 'debate'.

81 Whoever said This is pretty much it is pretty much right.  The crap in that bill is a takeover of health, finances, privacy, and education.  This is a commie siege from within and the majority of the GOP sits back like flaccid, nutless sacs of titty fat.
The white hot rage coursing through Americans will not go away whether this bill passes or not.  And no puny frakkin acorn tit sucker is going to be able to intimidate it into manageable factions. 

Just fax and email these wannabe clusterfrakkers into meltdowns.  Sic the bluedogs.

82


Yeah, uh, your salary will go up by, uh, let's say 50000% and your costs will go down by a GAZILLION percent!  We can do it, yes we can!



God, what a moron this guy is.

83

Oh, I missed that gem, and was just giving you the benefit of the doubt.


Stool was the gift that kept on getting returned, wasn't he?

84

I'm sorry for the "loose math," Barry.  My processor just wasn't into our speech today.

*sigh*

Last week I came home to an empty shipping crate...  The calculator left me after an ongoing fling with a dryer.  It's been going on behind my board for months.  Apparently she's into four-prong...  She...here, let me just read to you directly from the file she left me:

0010110111011000101001110110100010110101110100010101010...

85 The time for talking socialism is over.

86

OH SHIT, WHEN I JUST RE-READ HER LETTER IT DAWNED ON ME:  SHE LEFT ME FOR DRIER!

NOoooooooooooooo.....

87

Last week I came home to an empty shipping crate...  The calculator left me after an ongoing fling with a dryer.  It's been going on behind my board for months.  Apparently she's into four-prong...  She...here, let me just read to you directly from the file she left me:

0010110111011000101001110110100010110101110100010101010...

Posted by: TOTUS at March 15, 2010 05:13 PM (V40IZ

Did they meet online? Or is it because the dryer is 'hotter'?

88

 flaccid, nutless sacs of titty fat.

c'mon! you ballist! Do not hate us just because we are impotant!

89 ObamaCare is the monster in a really bad, low-budget sci-fi film where the damn monster just won't die.  You know, they shoot it and it falls down, but then they poke it and it sits up and starts killing again.  There's no suspense anymore, just a tired sense of "When will this stupid thing end?"

90

My oh my.

Obamacare gonna die.

mmm...mmm...mmm

91

 There's no suspense anymore, just a tired sense of "When will this stupid thing end?"

It will end when we get true conservatives back in the driver's seat.

92
Probably because they're not that stupid. Illegals comprise about 3% of the people living in this country. They may be contributing to the "soaring cost of health care", but they're certainly not a major contribution. Not even in the top 10.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at March 15, 2010 04:45 PM (Mi2wf)

Of course, Garbiel. It is but a trifling pittance.

In Texas, where the state comptroller estimates illegal immigrants cost hospitals $1.3 billion in 2006, the University of Texas Medical Branch in Galveston is considering denying cancer care to such immigrants.

 In California, a 2004 study by the Federation for American Immigration Reform put the state's annual cost at $1.4 billion.

The Pew Hispanic Center estimates that 59% of the nation's illegal immigrants are uninsured, compared with 25% of legal immigrants and 14% of U.S. citizens. Illegal immigrants represent about 15% of the nation's 47 million uninsured people — and about 30% of the increase since 1980.

93 and your costs will go down by a GAZILLION percent!

Could be an abuse of Zeno's paradox, if I actually believed anyone in WH knew what that was.

94

Illegals cost us next to nothing in health care. Ask Gabe. Just ask him. He has made up figures.

In a recent year in Colorado, the state's emergency Medicaid program paid an estimated $30 million in hospital and physician delivery costs for about 6,000 illegal immigrant mothers - average of $5,000 per baby. Those 6,000 births to illegal aliens represent 40% of the births paid for by Medicaid in Colorado.

95 State Comptroller William Donald Schaefer said yesterday that health care costs for illegal aliens in Maryland are much higher than reported -- and taxpayers and consumers are footing the bill.

"I am very concerned over this," Mr. Schaefer told Maryland Budget Secretary James C. "Chip" DiPaula Jr. during a Board of Public Works meeting.

Mr. Schaefer, a Democrat, cited state Department of Health and Mental Hygiene numbers that show Maryland paid $44 million last year for emergency care for illegal aliens.

That's just for emergency care. In one state. For one year.

96 B+++++++

97 Those 6,000 births to illegal aliens represent 40% of the births paid for by Medicaid in Colorado.

Jesus, that's a lot of WIC and free vaccinations--that we can't bitch about because the babies are American citizens.

98 DeMint is "less confident now".
WTF?

99
and Warden comes through with teh facts and data

100
why, would a Republican intentionally go jab a stick in their eyes? 

Because they have a Constitutional, moral, and fiduciary obligation to represent their constituents.

101

Nobody believes anything Obama says anymore.  The only people who listen to him now are LOSERS and FUCKING IDIOTS.

He has used up all of the useful idiots and is stuck with those who need him.
Losers and fucking idiots.

102 Most americans would sit up and listen to the fact that illegals compose many of the uninsured as far as free treatment goes. I don't think they understand that's partly why their premiums are so high. That would also put a notch in all the amnesty talk. I think the public would respond to that but everyone is too afraid of being called a racist. I don't think legal immigrants, the ones that vote legally, want the illegals given amnesty anymore than anyone else.

103

Dagny our premiums are  high because of Capitalism and Doctors removing limbs un-necessarily.  Don't try to fuck with the brilliant minds here in America.

We know the truth.  Now shut the fuck up and eat your Soylant Green.

104 I think the public would respond to that but everyone is too afraid of being called a racist.

You could dispel that by noting that Europeans who come in under the visa waiver program and then stay longer than 90 days, taking jobs that pay in cash or signing up for welfare, are just as illegal and detrimental as the "stereotypical" snuck-in-over-the-southern-border.  There was a meatpacking plant in IA hiring illegal Ukranians, a trucking firm in WI hiring illegal Irish...

And overstaying student visas for decades is not limited to any range of skin tones or country of birth.

105 DeMint is "less confident now".

My heart sank when I read this.  This is a living nightmare.

106

I am feeling better about it not passing but.. it aint over til its over... which is in about 3 years.

Indy had a rally on the statehouse steps today.. I hope it was huge.

I hope the rally in DC is massive.

107 We. Are. Fucked.

108 We pay $1400.00 a month $5000.00 deducdable. It makes it damn hard on us,and I don't want Obama care! 

109 I think everything can be solved by forming a gov'mint agency, .........can I please get to the group who has the job of keeping my house clean...the TARP money should cover part of the cost of clean up... and I will let them nail a sign up outside too... to let my neighbors know that we are getting some of the gov'mint money back!

110

Elections have consequences, bitches!   I'm talking to all the free-spending, corrupt RINOs out there who fumbled the ball over the last 5 years or so.

 

111 Don't worry Ohio Danno....... Obama will get all that stuff for you for FREE.

112 House Budget Committee member, Democrat Lloyd Dogget is comparing HCR to the "success" of LBJ's efforts on Medicare.  How is that a positive argument?

113

John Yarmuth (D), "This bill allows americans to keep their current coverage"

That is until your employer takes the $3,000 hit to dump you and you have no choice but to go to the "public health exchange"....

Asshats..

114

So I was just watching the news and caught bites of Earflaps' speech. 

What's up with the  broad in the hospital being used as a political prop?

I mean, if she doesn't have any access to health care shouldn't she be wasting away in a ditch in order to be a 'proper' political prop?  As far as I could tell, she was at a good clinic getting treatment.

Didn't the fuckhead admonish some Republican for using the actual bill as a "prop?"  It's so much worse than using a person, I guess.

115 I mean, if she doesn't have any access to health care shouldn't she be wasting away in a ditch in order to be a 'proper' political prop?  As far as I could tell, she was at a good clinic getting treatment.

I was thinking the same thing. Shouldn't she be laying on the curb outside a 7-Eleven puking up blood or something?

116 Hope for the best. Plan for the worst.

The Democrats will never give up in their quest for a one party state. A Democrat takeover of the healthcare industry is an essential part of their plans. The Democrats will never give up in their attempt to takeover the healthcare industry. Never.

117 I was at the Stongsville, Oh Bo meeting.  There were about 500+ people outside the meeting against Obamacare and 2 supporters for Obamacare.  Many of the passing cars and trucks beeped their horn in support of the people against Obamacare. 

The weather was cold, rainy and overcast.

BO left the meeting in the back of the his limo by himself smoking.

118 43 If ObamaCare finally fails this week, I'm going to party like it's 1999. Posted by: Prince

Hey Prince, what are you going to do next week? It'll be baaaaaack.

119 21 - Fine. I think that would be AWESOME. That means it has to go back to the Senate and that pesky filibuster.

120 21 I hate to be a pessimist, but even if the vote fails, they'll just send it back to committee and bring out a new bill in a few weeks.  They've spent all their political capital on this for fourteen months, there's no way they could just say "Sorry, we failed.  What's the next thing we can try to destroy?"

If they have to start all over again with a new bill then it has to get out of committee first. The only reason that happened last time was because that fucking horrible bitch that illustrious Senator from Maine, Olympia Snowe, cast the lone GOP vote to move it out of the Finance Committee. Assuming we can whip the traitorous whore into submission persuade her to play ball with her own team this time, a new bill could be bottled up there and killed. The Dems would have gone this route already if it were such a sure thing.

121 Intrade is still saying 70% chance to pass ObamaCare

122

The Democrats will never give up in their quest for a one party state.

Exactly.  People don't quite get what these evil fucks are trying to do.

Like Golda Meir said of the Arabs, we can never have a compromise solution because they want us dead and we want to be alive.

123 It's nice that Democrats are making this more and more a bipartisan rejection of Obamacare.  HA!

124

Easy to follow steps:

1. Reverse everything this Administration has enacted. "Deem" these reversals done if necessary.

2. The President will veto obviously, but don't sweat it. Just "deem" that there are a sufficient # of votes to override him.

3. Investigate and prosecute the former Congress.

4. Demand the Executive branch produce the TARP money paid back by the banks.

5. If the President fails to produce the money begin impeachment proceedings. I'm pretty sure that the theft of close to a trillion dollars is an impeachable offense.

 

125 42 Obama doll.   Made in Kenya.       The Kenya Doll?  Barbie's faker, more plastic, inarticulate, pushy boyfriend who can't take no for an answer. 

126

"How many people are getting insurance through their jobs right now, raise your hands, a lot of those folk , your employer, it's estimated would see premiums fall by as much as 3000 percent so they could give you a raise!"

 

In that clip, the people behind Obama didn't look particularly spellbound or thrilled to be there.  In fact, when he made the above idiotic statement, it was a second or so before people started smiling and cheering.  By making such a stupid ass statement, I can already see Unions going on strike next year (after Obamacare has passed), demanding their raises since companies will be saving 3000 percent in premiums.  Epic Douchebag.

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