1 A nice little Korean war could be a great time to invade Taiwan..hmmmmmm

2 Prayers go out to the soldiers on board.

3 Looks like someone's ronery and wants some attention.

4 Or the sailors...

5 Somebody get zombie Douglas McAuthur on the phone. Stat.

6

You know what will come of this??

NOTHING.

North Korea has been provoking the world for as long as it existed, and we've done nothing.  They used to abduct Japanese citizens in the 1970s.

All the nations in that area are just waiting for Kim to die and the nation to collapse from the inside.

the only thing that would provoke a military action would be if north korea attacked with ground troops, and we know they can'tt do that as all the troops would throw down their arms and defect to the south

7 Let's hope it's an accident and the Norks say so through their backchannels. Otherwise, maybe Kimmy finally decided that it's time for his Gotterdammerung. (Imagine umlauts there.)

8 This is a Big Fuckin' Deal!

9


Ronrhey no morr.

10 This is not a great time to have a fucking pussy in the White House is it.

11 Prayers go out to the soldiers sailors on board.

My bad, i need some caffeine stat!

12 Well they don't usually sink all by themselves.  The Norks are making a lot of noise lately.

13 Yeah I agree nothing will happen even if it was a deliberate attack simply because war between these two entities will produce casualties on a scale we have not seen since probably WW2. 

14 I blame Bush the Tea Parties taxpayer-subsidized sex drugs for rapists. You should brame Hans Brix.

15 if anything starts, we are in it.

Maybe.  I somehow doubt the Tool in Chief would do the right thing here. 

I miss the days when the US would actually stand up to the communist bastards still on the planet. 

16 How can one communist fight another? They are comrades in arms!

17 Ben, why didn't you tell me you were a military genius?  The NORK's don't need to invade to inflict a lot of damage.  Seoul is within range of thousands of artillery canons.  They can do a lot of damage in one hour without setting foot across the border.  Oh, and they have nukes.

18 Maybe Kimmy died and whoever is succeeding him this week wanted to say hi.

19 All Kim Jong Il wants to do is spread the wealth around...

Jeeesh..

20

Remember, a lot of the South Koreans are hippies, all peace 'n' love about reuniting with the Norks.

Se where it got 'em?

21 In the meantime, Barky's busy snubbing Bibi and pissing off Israel, doing his "victory laps" for Hellcare, and saying "I won, crackers, get over it". 

Too bad we don't have an adult as CiC.

22 Ah, the good old days when we had presidents who understood the evil of collectivism, and had the intestinal fortitude to confront it, drive it back into its lair, and then destroy it.

I'll be reporting to the reeducation camp this weekend.

23 @17 Good point.

24 Maybe establishing the South Korean capital within artillary range of the Norks wasn't such a brillant idea.

25 When they start evacuating Seoul, I'll get real worried.

26 This is not a great time to have a fucking pussy in the White House is it.

Every bad guy in the world knows that now is the time to act.

27 More than likely, a NORK ship will get sunk, they'll have some harsh words and then back to the status quo.

28 Given the opportunity, I'm sure Bammy would bow to Lil' Kim.  In fact, I'd bet on it.

29 Okay, I can get rid of the ONT link. . . .

30 You think Obama will send Bill again?

31 I don't have all the facts, but I'd say the South Koreans acted stupidly.

32 Present!

33 Where's that darned reset button?!

34 I'm sure that Barry and Hillary! have already sent a 'sternly worded' message!  Now if they were really serious, Barry would give a speech and beam it into North Korea constantly for the next month.  They'd SUE for peace!

35

We have about 30,000 troops stationed in South Korea so if anything starts, we are in it.

If the Norks decide to go all out in a blaze of glory...really don't want to think about it.

Let's just say that if someone had deemed for chaos to rise again, this would be a good trigger.

36

MATT DAMON!

37 The Carnahan Coffin denies any involvement in the confrontation.

38

A nice little Korean war could be a great time to invade Taiwan..hmmmmmm

the chinese are patient. why invade when you can just walk in and take it without much violence in 20-25 years when we rescind our umbrella of protection.

39 Hmmm. Axis of Evil.  Iran. Iraq. N. Korea.

N. Korea creates a disturbance.  We turn our attention.  Iran punches the blind side.  Two front war. Overnight.

Iraq?  Our boys caught in the middle.  What could possibly go wrong?

40 Enough distractions.  Stop trying to draw attention away from my healthcare victory.  I'm busy saving America here.  No time for this int'l affairs garbage.  And will someone get Netenyahu out of here?  Thanks

41

If the Norks decide to go all out in a blaze of glory...really don't want to think about it.

Bammer already has Albright lacing up her dancing shoes to arrange a surrender.

42
What could possibly go wrong?

We might run out of ordnance as we slaughter them.

43 Maybe O. WILL intervene--on the North Korean side.

God bless our troops and the innocent SK sailors who are caught in this mess.

44 N. Korea creates a disturbance.  We turn our attention.  Iran punches the blind side.

Sun Tzu.

45 Pleased to meet you. . . .

46

We have about 30,000 troops stationed in South Korea so if anything starts, we are in it.

Don't worry -- with help from the Norks we'll beat the bad guys.

47 Okay, I will admit my ignorance of something I should know - aren't we still technically operating under terms of a cease fire?  I know, I know, I should know this but it's slipping my mind.  If this was an attack, then those terms are forfeit, right?

48 Team America was ahead of its time.

49 Hey Michelle, now would be a good time to return to hubby his balls that you have sitting in a mason jar on the nightstand.

50 >We have about 30,000 troops stationed in South Korea so if anything starts, we are in it.

Not so fast there, Skippy.

51
We might run out of ordnance as we slaughter them.

Bammer ain't gonna let that happen. He'll arrange an "equitable settlement" that involves us leaving equipment and non-US personnel (including spouses) in-place, but withdrawing all US personnel.

52 A series of naval engagements is the kind of dog wagging Barry can get behind. Very low chance for US casualties, all video would come from our pods or UAVs, relatively cheap (as long as he doesn't back fill the munition inventory) -- it's a shame they didn't wait until August.

53 Obama will announce that SK are capitalist pigs ... they deserved this, they should be more like NK.

North Korea is such a glowing example of the wonders of totalitarianism ...

  

54 We are still technically at war with the North, yes. And Seoul is one of the most densely populated cities on the planet, so we turn a blind eye to everything they do.

55 Your Move, Mr. O'Bow !!!

56
Michelle, now would be a good time to return to hubby his balls

No it wouldn't.  The last thing we want Wee Wee to do is try and act like CinC.

57

Time for China to do a little heavy lifting.

We should just ludly telegraph our intent to get into this, and let the exodus of Nork citizens begin to head for China's borders en masse.

I guarantee they'll, at a minimum, be sending a sternly worded letter in minutes.

58 Hey stop fucking complaining I passed Health care and took a shit on the Israelis.

59 Probably just a randomly fired torpedo

60
Bammer ain't gonna let that happen. He'll arrange an "equitable settlement"

Yeah, my bad.  I was thinking about my Team Spirit days.

61 A prefect time for a Military coup. Here.

62

Ben, why didn't you tell me you were a military genius?  The NORK's don't need to invade to inflict a lot of damage.  Seoul is within range of thousands of artillery canons.  They can do a lot of damage in one hour without setting foot across the border.  Oh, and they have nukes.

You don't have to be a military genius, just a functional retard, to know that you wouldn't fire missles, artillery, etc without sending ground troops in tow. What would be the point of attacking the south with cannons and not in conjunction with ground troops?

63 Time for China to do a little heavy lifting. We should just ludly telegraph our intent to get into this, and let the exodus of Nork citizens begin to head for China's borders en masse. I guarantee they'll, at a minimum, be sending a sternly worded letter in minutes. Posted by: Gunslinger at March 26, 2010 11:51 AM (Zi+FQ) All the Chicoms will do is mow them down at the border. Nobody will care. Certainly not this USA Admin

64 Hey!  Don't those Norks realize that I Won?

Oh.  Wait.  They did.

65 If this was an attack, then those terms are forfeit, right?

See USS Pueblo.

66 Okay, I will admit my ignorance of something I should know - aren't we still technically operating under terms of a cease fire?  I know, I know, I should know this but it's slipping my mind.  If this was an attack, then those terms are forfeit, right?

Yes, but Iraq was also under a cease-fire, and routinely violated the terms of that cease-fire. So, bluntly: that don't mean shit. Ronery Boy could order the shelling of Seoul and the reporters would be telling us how the South Koreans and American servicemen are stealing NorK property in the form of embedded shrapnel.

67 I'm tired of these right-wing distractions.  Where'd you hear about this, Fox News?

68

More than likely, a NORK ship will get sunk, they'll have some harsh words and then back to the status quo.

If so, what are the odds Bammy condemns South Korea for its belligerence?

69

#57  No it wouldn't.  The last thing we want Wee Wee to do is try and act like CinC.

Especially since his plan of turning the USA into the USSA got a boost recently.  And with the way Obama treated Israel, it is too much of a stretch to think that he wouldn't care too much if S. Korea got messed up by N. Korea.  Does he consider the S. Koreans to be "typical" capitalists or something?

/Sucks that I have to ask the question.

70 This is all part of my plan to finally get to split a country into threes.  I'm behind schedule here in the States, I was denied that opportunity in Iraq but I can do it here in Korea.  It's already in half, all I need to do is evenly divide it in third's and we will have world peace.  Brilliant.

71 China cannot invade Taiwan. She doesn't have that kind of force projection capability or logistics yet. Now various Vietnamese and Philippine islands in the South China Sea - those could be targets. But, why, they can essentially buy them.

72 What would be the point of attacking the south with cannons and not in conjunction with ground troops?

because you just want to see the world burn?

73 Will Obama side with South Korea or North Korea? It seems he has more in common with the Norks.

74

The last thing we want Wee Wee to do is try and act like CinC.

Well the fact that he's been known to call it Commander-of-Chief, is evidence enough that we're already screwed.

75 In a year, NK may be the world's powerhouse economy.

76 You don't have to be a military genius, just a functional retard, to know that you wouldn't fire missles, artillery, etc without sending ground troops in tow. What would be the point of attacking the south with cannons and not in conjunction with ground troops?

To get Bammer to break the mutual defense treaty with the South, withdraw US forces, and otherwise abandon another ally.

BTW -- has Rangel submitted a bill to reinstate the draft, yet?

77 More than likely, a NORK ship will get sunk, they'll have some harsh words and then back to the status quo. If so, what are the odds Bammy condemns South Korea for its belligerence? Posted by: Cautiously Pessimistic at March 26, 2010 11:54 AM (pZEar) Remote. It's obviously the fault of those damn Israeli Carpenters

78 Time to kill Kim Jung Il. Go South Korea, go!

79

Time for China to do a little heavy lifting.

We should just ludly telegraph our intent to get into this, and let the exodus of Nork citizens begin to head for China's borders en masse.

I guarantee they'll, at a minimum, be sending a sternly worded letter in

The chinese will line up machine guns and the Yalu river will be filled with dead Norks, which are not to be confused with the Snorks.

80 If so, what are the odds Bammy condemns South Korea the Tea Party for its belligerence?

FIFY

81 Oh, I'm sure that our intrepid present-dent will rise to the occasion, and give the South Koreans the same stalwart shows of support that he's shown all of our other allies.

Or in other words, he'll probably send the President of South Korea a collection of Japanese tentacle porn, a DVD of his own collected speeches, and note wishing him good luck. And then order our military to help the North Koreans.

82

If so, what are the odds Bammy condemns South Korea for its belligerence?

If their government has been standing up to the North in any way -- it's a damned near certainty.

83 BTW -- has Rangel submitted a bill to reinstate the draft, yet?

He's too busy soliciting bribes in Harlem.

84

Can't the Norks also shell Seoul with something like half a million artillery shells an hour?  *That's assuming they all work, and even with only 10% of them functional..that's still a lot to hit a capital city.*

85 And so it begins.

86

Shooting between the Koreas isn't exactly unheard of, so I'm not going to freak out.  Legally speaking, the war never ended:  it's just a 57-year ceasefire. 

But, yeah, I'd rather have McCain at the helm right now. 

87 Or in other words, he'll probably send the President of South Korea a collection of Japanese tentacle porn, a DVD of his own collected speeches, and note wishing him good luck. And then order our military to help the North Koreans.

Don't forget - the DVD has to be in the wrong format!

88 "We have about 30,000 troops stationed in South Korea so if anything starts, we are in it."

A good reason to leave. South Korea can handle its own affairs.

89
Probably the Joos!

^{Am I too late; did someone already say that?}

90 "Mr President. A south Korean ship is sinking; it may have been attacked by the North."

"Dude! I am eating my motherfucking WAFFLE!"

91
He's too busy soliciting bribes in Harlem.

Really? I figured he had the draft bill pre-written and just resubmitted it every time there was an international incident.

Hmmmm... maybe he's holding back this time because he doesn't have a way to blame it on Republicans.

92

China cannot invade Taiwan. She doesn't have that kind of force projection capability or logistics yet. Now various Vietnamese and Philippine islands in the South China Sea - those could be targets. But, why, they can essentially buy them.

I had a friend in college a few years ago who was from Vietnam. His parents and family had to leave the country. He said the Chinese are taking Vietnam from the inside. They are making sure that mixed breeds(Vietnamese/Chinese) citizens get into government positions, and military positions. That way the government and military will be replete with pro-China Vietnamese.

Also, why would anyone want the philippine islands. Seriously? What is there value, I still to this day don't know

93 I'm pretty sure this is Sarah Palin's fault.

94 No worries, Obama has ordered up a new set of apologies to be delivered by TOTIS.

95

You don't have to be a military genius, just a functional retard, to know that you wouldn't fire missles, artillery, etc without sending ground troops in tow. What would be the point of attacking the south with cannons and not in conjunction with ground troops?

Posted by: Ben at March 26, 2010 11:53 AM (wuv1c)

Damn Ben, you are a non-functional retard.  How many days did we wait to soften up the Iraqi's in the first Gulf War?  You don't think the Nork's would follow the same game plan?  You know, like soften the target BEFORE committing troops?  At some point you would follow up with troops but that is not what you said.  You said that the only thing that would provoke a military action would be if ground troops crossed the border.  I would argue a few thousand artillery shots and rockets WOULD provoke a military response WITHOUT committing troops across the border.

96

Hmmm. Axis of Evil.  Iran. Iraq. N. Korea.

N. Korea creates a disturbance.  We turn our attention.  Iran punches the blind side.  Two front war. Overnight.

Derak, are you really Tom Clancy? Because that is definitely something out of one of his books. Though I thought Pakistan was thrown in there somehow.

97 Ben, the NOrks only real bargaining chip is the threat to destroy Seoul using artillery, chem, bio, and nuke-fizzles. They couldn't win a ground war, and they know it. All they can do is threaten Seoul, unfortunately it is playing the old MAD game with a madman. They do this shit to remind the world that they are still crazy.

98 Is it 3 a.m. in Korea right now?

99 Also, why would anyone want the philippine islands. Seriously? What is there value, I still to this day don't know

Are you kidding?  You haven't lived until you've had Roast Poodle Au Jus

100 I invoke the 15 minute rule. Personal gut feeling - explosion on board the ship from its own ordinance. I really can't imagine that little fat ronery nut in the north really daring to fire the first shot.

101

Shooting between the Koreas isn't exactly unheard of, so I'm not going to freak out.  Legally speaking, the war never ended:  it's just a 57-year ceasefire. 

But, yeah, I'd rather have McCain at the helm right now. 

Exactly. This stuff happens often(maybe no on this scale if the death count reaches the double digits).  There will be a strongly worded letter or speech, nothing more.

102

#93  Also, why would anyone want the philippine islands. Seriously? What is there value, I still to this day don't know

Maybe they want the Spratly island chain the most.

/First "military" game I played on the PC was Tom Clancy's SSN.

103
wow 2nd day in a row Ben is taking a beating...

poor Ben

104

A good reason to leave. South Korea can handle its own affairs.

Yes, because the sight of American withdrawal in the face of totalitarian provocation does wonders for world stability.  And there is the small matter of the whole treaty thing.

Jim, stop pushing the screwdriver in when it meets resistance.

105 Or in other words, he'll probably send the President of South Korea a collection of Japanese tentacle porn, a DVD of his own collected speeches, and note wishing him good luck. And then order our military to help the North Koreans.



Just kinda ..uhmm curious..what is Japanese tentacle porn?

106

 Or in other words, he'll probably send the President of South Korea a collection of Japanese tentacle porn, a DVD of his own collected speeches, and note wishing him good luck. And then order our military to help the North Koreans.



Just kinda ..uhmm curious..what is Japanese tentacle porn?

if i am not mistaken you are not allowed to show the penis in japnese porn, so they get around it by having....welll...just  google it.

107 They do this shit to remind the world that they are still crazy.

They ain't the only ones!

108 If it was a ship with nearly 100 hundred crew it was a fairly major combatant.IF the Norks did sink it that would be a big fucking deal.

109
Jim, stop pushing the screwdriver Q-Tip in when it meets resistance.

110 Oh man! Can this day get any better?

111
Just kinda ..uhmm curious..what is Japanese tentacle porn?

It's when tentacles go where no tentacles have ever gone before.

112

A good reason to leave. South Korea can handle its own affairs.

Yes, because the sight of American withdrawal in the face of totalitarian provocation does wonders for world stability.  And there is the small matter of the whole treaty thing.

Jim, stop pushing the screwdriver in when it meets resistance.

You're right, we can't remove troops now, but South Korea is a strong country with a powerful military. The only reason we are there is that it allows us to have a military base so close to mainland china.  The south could win a conflict on its own.

 

113 The only reason we are there is that it allows us to have a military base so close to mainland china.

And that whole treaty thing.

114 "Yes, because the sight of American withdrawal in the face of totalitarian provocation does wonders for world stability.  And there is the small matter of the whole treaty thing."

If you're afraid of leaving during totalitarian provocation, wait until this blows over - as it almost assuredly will - and THEN leave. As for the treaty, it does not serve our interests; cut it loose.

Can anyone explain to me why we would want our boys to die in a renewed Korean war? What interest do we have there at this point? Is South Korea, with its much larger economy and better equipped military, unable to handle its northern neighbor?
 

115 Just kinda ..uhmm curious..what is Japanese tentacle porn?

Posted by: beerologist at March 26, 2010 12:02 PM (tgXx6)

If you don't already know...be very, very glad.

116

If it was a ship with nearly 100 hundred crew it was a fairly major combatant.IF the Norks did sink it that would be a big fucking deal.

maybe rupert murdoch did it. Wasn't that the plot of one of the Pierce Brosnan james bond movies? They had some british media mogul(read:Murdoch) who sank a korean/chinese/british(i forget which) ship to start a war so he could sell more newpapers or something

117 "Can anyone explain to me why we would want our boys to die in a renewed Korean war? What interest do we have there at this point? Is South Korea, with its much larger economy and better equipped military, unable to handle its northern neighbor?"

Some people would like their KIA warranties honored.

118 We should pull our troops out of South Korea.

Our military welfare is not buying us any goodwill.  Anti-Americanism is rampant in South Korea.

South Korea can easily afford to pay for their own defence.

119

Just kinda ..uhmm curious..what is Japanese tentacle porn?

Look up 'Tentacle erotica' in wikipedia. They have pictures.

120

Can anyone explain to me why we would want our boys to die in a renewed Korean war? What interest do we have there at this point? Is South Korea, with its much larger economy and better equipped military, unable to handle its northern neighbor?

it is, but again, it gives us a base on the Asian continent right next to china. You don't think that base is filled with spys, spy planes, etc etc that we use to monitor china? I think we are at the point where our troops are there to protect korea as a secondary mission.

121 Guy Drake - Welfare Cadillac
http://http://bit.ly/iIDmw
Looks like we're on our way!!!

(why is it a Mensa workout to post links.. Is there a faq on the how do u do's it? it's already a bitch message boards don't use the same coding)

122 Are you kidding?  You haven't lived until you've had Roast Poodle Au Jus

I prefer monkey meat on a stick.

123 Just kinda ..uhmm curious..what is Japanese tentacle porn? It's when tentacles go where no tentacles have ever gone before. Posted by: chemjeff at March 26, 2010 12:04 PM (Gk/wA) No, that's just Tuesday.

124 "You don't think that base is filled with spys, spy planes, etc etc that we use to monitor china?"

No idea. Nothing that satellites can't do most likely anyhow. Really, though, I'm not interested in any conflict with China either.
 
 

125

OT:  huh?
WASHINGTON (AP) - Court says Republican National Committee cannot raise unlimited contributions.

126

#118  maybe rupert murdoch did it. Wasn't that the plot of one of the Pierce Brosnan james bond movies?

Tomorrow Never Dies.

127 97 PGIS,  Ha.  I is jus' a freaked out moron.

 Watch your backside Bibi!

128 121

Just kinda ..uhmm curious..what is Japanese tentacle porn?

Look up 'Tentacle erotica' in wikipedia. They have pictures.

Googled it..did nothing for me..

129

What interest do we have there at this point?

Economic: $67 billion in bilateral trade

Strategic:  Buy a map

Historical:  Buy a book

 

130

The only reason we are there is that it allows us to have a military base so close to mainland china.

And that whole treaty thing.

That's minor. If America truly wanted to leave South Korea we would, but the base has a more important purpose that actually defending against the Norks. If i am not mistaken, it is one of our two largest military bases in asia, and we might potentially lose our base in Japan thanks to the new douchebag in charge in their country and the one in ours.

So we can't leave for reasons besides the treaty.

131 8 Otherwise, maybe Kimmy finally decided that it's time for his Gotterdammerung. (Imagine umlauts there.)

Gotterdam̈merung?

132 Has Barry apologized to North Korea yet?

133

128

thanks kratos, i remembered it vaguely. it was a terrible movie, but when i was watching it i couldn't help thinking they were talking about rupert murdoch

134  121

Just kinda ..uhmm curious..what is Japanese tentacle porn?

Look up 'Tentacle erotica' in wikipedia. They have pictures.

Googled it..did nothing for me..

Try putting Pearl Necklace into wikipedia. That may be better for you.

135

Look up 'Tentacle erotica' in wikipedia. They have pictures.

Googled it..did nothing for me..


Then you're normal.  congratulations.

136 8 Otherwise, maybe Kimmy finally decided that it's time for his Gotterdammerung. (Imagine umlauts there.) Gotterdam̈merung? Posted by: Spýn̈al Tap at March 26, 2010 12:11 PM (1OYcp) Twilight of the gods.

137 Coffin Claims Responsibility for Firing on Vessel

138

#126  No idea. Nothing that satellites can't do most likely anyhow. Really, though, I'm not interested in any conflict with China either.

Because satellites reveal all.../sarc.

You aren't interested in potential Chinese conflict, but some of them seem to be spoiling for a China/US match-up.  See the news about the paper one Chinese think tank publicly revealed about shutting down the US's power supply?

/Not saying the US doesn't wargame China theoreticals, but you only publish stuff like that publicly if you want to convey a message.

139
google 'chubby asian milf' -- that's what I like

140 Those Hawaiians better breakout the canoes and start rowing for Cali.

141

You don't think that base is filled with spys, spy planes, etc etc that we use to monitor china?"

No idea. Nothing that satellites can't do most likely anyhow. Really, though, I'm not interested in any conflict with China either.
 
No one is interested in a conflict with China, but I am interested in spying on them, as they are us. Wanting to know what a nation is doing militarily does not equal wanting to go to war with it.

And planes can do more in some areas that satellites cannot, otherwise we wouldn't still be using planes for spy missions. Do you remember the Hainan plane incident early on in the Bush admin. I know that plane took off from Japan, but I assume we do the same from Korea.

 

142 Whenever there's a crisis, the President sends his envoy. Who will it be this time? Biden? That would be hilarious.

143
Try putting Pearl Necklace into wikipedia. That may be better for you blocked by the webfilter or might get you fired.

ftfy

144

#138  Twilight of the gods.

That happened in GoW3.  It wasn't pleasant for mankind.

145

Last week we heard about the delivery of bombs to Diego Garcia; these were incorrectly identified as bunker busters.

hmmmmm

146 But the real important question is, when the Norks were firing torpedoes at the boat, did they hurl racial epithets?  Or spit on the sailors?

147 I would like to offer our complete and total support to the leaders of North Korea at this most difficult time and assure their leaders that we will stand with them against any and all aggresive actions that may be taken against them.

148 Whenever there's a crisis, the President sends his envoy. Who will it be this time? Biden? That would be hilarious. Bart Stupak. He's completely expendable.

149 Those Hawaiians better breakout the canoes and start rowing for Cali. Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at March 26, 2010 12:15 PM (hTUEv) Can't they just ride the next great tsunami?

150 142 Those Hawaiians better breakout the canoes and start rowing for Cali.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at March 26, 2010 12:15 PM (hTUEv)

I think I would take my chances against the Norks rather than get stuck in the People's Republic of California.

151 I invoke the 15 minute rule. Personal gut feeling - explosion on board the ship from its own ordinance. I really can't imagine that little fat ronery nut in the north really daring to fire the first shot.

Ronery Boy may no longer be in command:

http://tinyurl.com/ycvhtna

152

google 'chubby asian milf' -- that's what I like

Tried it. They all look like Kim Jong-il.

153 Maybe the guy who threw the rock into Dreihaus's 30th floor office chucked a second rock several thousand miles that sank this ROK ship

154 Can't they just ride the next great tsunami?

Posted by: nevergiveup at March 26, 2010 12:16 PM (0GFWk)

They're still recovering from that devastating earthquake that Obama referred to last week.

155

This is your idea of a big, fucking deal? 

Please.

156 Ben and Jim, not to get personal, but, do either of you know which end of a rifle goes bang? Leave Korea? do it all from Satellites? biggest "base" in Asia?, anti-American sediment? come on, if your trolling go get some knowledge first; if not, you are way behind the curve and need to catch up.

157 I'm leaning on the idea of exploding ordnance, like someone said above.

158 Dude!  As soon as I can get out of my McDonald's shift, I'm so going to North Korea

159 Anyone want to take bets that Russia annexes the Baltic countries before the end of the Obama administration?

160 I know that giving up our South Korean base would weaken our military position with respect to China.

But another thing that weakens us is the fact that we're the world's scapegoat.  There's no benefit to being our ally, and plenty of benefit to hassling us.  We're the most charitable nation in the world, and everyone spits in our faces.  I'm sick of it.

I'm not an isolationist.  But nations that demonize us can live without our help for a while.

161 141
google 'chubby asian milf' -- that's what I like


For sure the milf part..  chubby..not so much.. speaking of chubbies....

162

145
Try putting Pearl Necklace into wikipedia. That may be better for you blocked by the webfilter or might get you fired.

ftfy

Thanks. You're right. I won't even mention the pink sock then.

163 Madeline Albright, white courtesian telephone please!

164 oh Israel is gonna pay for this!  It's sanctions time!

165 Some History   Source: Reuters

The following are border incidents over the past several years between the states, which are technically still at war because their 1950-53 conflict ended with a ceasefire and not a peace treaty:

Dec. 18, 1998 - South Korean navy sinks submersible North Korean spy vessel on east coast. A scuba diver from the North is found dead.

June 1999 - At least 17 and as many as 80 North Korean sailors killed in naval firefight over Northern Limit Line (NLL), a west coast, Yellow Sea border contested by the North. One of the North's vessels was sunk, others damaged.

Clash followed nine days of incursions by the North into South Korean waters.

June 29, 2002 - A clash between South and North Korean naval vessels in Yellow Sea sinks one South Korean frigate and kills six South Korean sailors and an estimated 13 North Koreans.

July 17, 2003 - South Korea says its troops returned machinegun fire a minute after the North shot at an observation post in the Demilitarised Zone (DMZ) buffer between the states.

May 26, 2006 - Two North Korean soldiers enter DMZ and cross into South Korea. They return after South fires warning shots.

July 11, 2008 - South Korean tourist, a 53-year-old housewife, shot dead by North Korean soldier at the Mount Kumgang resort in the North, which is run by companies in the South.

Nov. 10, 2009 - Two Koreas have brief naval fight just south of the NLL that causes damage to vessels on both sides.

Jan. 27, 2010 - Two Koreas exchange artillery fire near the NLL sea border.

March 26, 2010 - South Korean navy ship sinks near disputed Yellow Sea maritime border off the west coast.  

166 Who cares about a war in Korea, Obama has not only saved us from all dying with his health care "reform?",but he has also saved us from nuclear war. You know  signing a nuke treaty with his new best buddy, Russia. Good thing he got rid of that pesky Israel.    

167 Wonder what fellow moron Tom in S. Korea is up to. 

168 China cannot invade Taiwan. She doesn't have that kind of force projection capability or logistics yet.

They're getting close, very very close.  All their major acquisitions of the past 10 years have been oriented towards force projection and vastly increasing heavy sea-lift capacity.

Still, I don't think they'd actually do it.  Taiwan would fall, but the PRC would pay a very heavy price.

169 Dear Kim Jong Il--My sincerest apologies that our South Korean ship got in the way of your torpedo.  We will reimburse you for it immediately--send the bill to me, care of the American people. 

170 161 Anyone want to take bets that Russia annexes the Baltic countries before the end of the Obama administration?

They won't annex the Baltic countries.  Georgia?  Maybe.  Not Lithuania.

171 "We have about 30,000 troops stationed in South Korea so if anything starts, we are in it."

On which side?

172

Ben and Jim, not to get personal, but, do either of you know which end of a rifle goes bang? Leave Korea? do it all from Satellites? biggest "base" in Asia?, anti-American sediment? come on, if your trolling go get some knowledge first; if not, you are way behind the curve and need to catch up.

I didn't advocate leaving Korea, or doing it all from satellite, or say anything about anti american sentiment. I said we need to be in Korea because of China, not necessarily because of the Norks who are more bluster than anything else.

Also, if i am not mistaken it is the one of the two largest American bases in Asia, the other being in Japan. If I am wrong please let me know.

173 I don't know all the facts, but the torpedo acted stupidly.

174

169 Wonder what fellow moron Tom in S. Korea is up to. 

Good point.  I don't recall seeing him around for a while.

175 I will stand with the North Koreans should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

176

Anyone want to take bets that Russia annexes the Baltic countries before the end of the Obama administration?

They won't annex the Baltic countries.  Georgia?  Maybe.  Not Lithuania.

Why not Lithuania? Are you calling Estonia and Latvia pussies?

177 I don't think China will invade Taiwan any time soon, but they'll probably step up the brinksmanship in order to extract concessions from us.

178

#170  Still, I don't think they'd actually do it.  Taiwan would fall, but the PRC would pay a very heavy price.

And there's a fair number of people on Taiwian that would love to reunite with the motherland.  Isn't the government in charge of Taiwian looking to peacefully integrate with China?

179 If the norks did this and Tom is still there then I assume he's on alert manning a bunker up on the "Z".

180 Stay safe, Tom.  Prayers.

181 Tom's busy with us. He'll get back to you in a few months.

182 The South Koreans acted stupidly

183 I wonder if those South Korean soju-heads still think America is a greater threat to them than Kim Jong-il. Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of clueless America-haters. God, I've sunk into an evil state.

184

Isn't South Korea sort of a spoiled, fat democracy now? Do they really want a fight with the North? If this ship really was sunk, I don't suspect too much national outrage from the citizens in the south. They don't seem much like fighters anymore. In fact, it would not be surprising if many in the South blame the sinking on some recent "provocation" by the United States regarding Kim Jong Il, or because we have troops there.

185 (why is it a Mensa workout to post links.. Is there a faq on the how do u do's it? it's already a bitch message boards don't use the same coding)

Shadup.
Here in Soviet Aceland link posts you!

186 Will the first nuclear missile of a new war come from this part of the world? It seems possible.

187 I am in a meeting just saw this. We are so boned.

188 I really hope that if there is a conflict we drop our biggest bomb on the USS Pueblo to put it out of it's misery.

189 Beerologist - an 1820 meme? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dream_of_the_Fisherman's_Wife And a quick scan of MSM re topic... crickets.

190 Wonder what Preznint Self Discovery thinks of this?

You know, I'm sorry but Obama is a VERY IGNORANT PERSON

191 All this korean talk is making me hungry for barbacued cat

192 But another thing that weakens us is the fact that we're the world's scapegoat.  There's no benefit to being our ally, and plenty of benefit to hassling us.  We're the most charitable nation in the world, and everyone spits in our faces. 

You, uh, say all that like it's a, uh,  problem.  Nyuk!

193
o/t: Entitlement Apocalypse

http://tinyurl.com/yb5swth

194 It'll be blamed on the SK ship crossing into NK waters, and it'll go away.

195

I'm sure my boss has a letter ready to go telling Kim how very angry we are.

Chillax guys.

196

WASHINGTON—The Republican National Committee lost its bid to raise unlimited contributions from corporations and individuals banned by a 2002 campaign-finance law.

A three-judge panel of the U.S. District Court in Washington ruled Friday that it lacks the authority to overturn a Supreme Court ruling upholding the ban on soft money fund-raising by the RNC and other national party committees.

That ban is a cornerstone of the so-called McCain-Feingold law—and one of the few major parts of the law to survive court challenges.

The RNC had argued that it should be able to raise soft money for state election, congressional redistricting, legal costs and other activities that it said had nothing to do with federal elections.

197

188 Will the first nuclear missile of a new war come from this part of the world? It seems possible.

Probably, even if the first nuke of a new war isn't built there.  Iran's Shahab-3 (4 now?) missile design is a knock-off of a Nork missle.  And I remember hearing something a little bit ago about Iran building some huge launch pad.

198

Poor Barry!  The Left is going to rip him to shreds for not having made and executed a Korean "exit strategy" by now.  (NOT!)

Say - I think I heard Tina Fey say that she could see the ship sinking from her house, so maybe we should ask HER about this incident...

199 More rethuglican/teabagger violence.

200 Gee- 197 comments into a thread on a sinking warship and nobody's posted the infamous Fred Thompson quote yet...

201 Clearly, it's time to attack Israel.

202 I preferred the barbequed dog on a stick.

203 North Korea? Never heard of it...

204 The South Koreans were obviously asking for it...

205 Also, if i am not mistaken it is the one of the two largest American bases in Asia, the other being in Japan. If I am wrong please let me know. -- there are several US bases in the RoK; not one. Since Subic closed Osan maybe #2 in East Asia; all of stuff in SW Asia dwarfs RoK at this point. Okinawa and Kadena are "large" - but "large" is sort of a meaningless term - the facilities at Kunsan and Osan have a different purpose and Camp Red Cloud and all of various Army huts are going to be empty if the balloon goes up. The strategic importance of Korea is immeasurable - the NOrk inspired student protests are a game at this point - the real pressure is on the US for land rights and development in areas we feel are essential to winning a war. The opposition in RoK basically feels the war will never happen and Kim will die and a great big group hug will ensue.

206 Celebrity death match - Kim Jong Il and Nancy Pelosi with her "toys-r-us" gavel.  Predictions?

207 204 Clearly it's time to attack Israel.

You're right as usual, Daddy!  Giggle.  Isn't that right, Joe?

208

Gee- 197 comments into a thread on a sinking warship and nobody's posted the infamous Fred Thompson quote yet...

This lack of quoting is going to get out of control, it's going to get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.

209

And I remember hearing something a little bit ago about Iran building some huge launch pad Israeli Air Force target.

FTFY

210 C'mon people, this wasn't an attack, attack.  It was just a torpedo hitting a ship.  We all know torpedoes don't sink ships, holes do.

211 And steel does not melt!  Bush did this!

212 I preferred the barbequed dog on a stick. Posted by: CDR M at March 26, 2010 12:32 PM (cvmTR) Well for a formal sit down dinner sure!

213

#210  You're right as usual, Daddy!  Giggle.  Isn't that right, Joe?

That would be a Big Fucking Deal.

/When can we split up Iraq into 3 portions?

214 209 Celebrity death match - Kim Jong Il and Nancy Pelosi with her "toys-r-us" gavel.  Predictions?



That's not a gavel..it's my personal "tentacle device'

215 Well, the Apocalypse is truly nigh.  Fox reporting a college in Texas (?) doing a play about Gay Jesus.  Has him performing a same-sex wedding and kissing another man. 

216

This lack of quoting is going to get out of control, it's going to get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.

Posted by: Ben at March 26, 2010 12:33 PM (wuv1c)

Thanks!  You've restored my confidence in morons. :-)

217

What are the Korean words for "mouse" and "roar?"

Let's send Carter. He killed the last head of the Norks by making him laugh himself to death.

218

war between these two entities will produce casualties on a scale we have not seen since probably WW2. 

I'm not so sure of that.

219

#219  Was this play inspired by Elton John?

/When are they going to make a similar play about Mohammed?

220

Fox reporting a college in Texas (?) doing a play about Gay Jesus.  Has him performing a same-sex wedding and kissing another man. 

Funny how we never have plays about a gay Mohammed, huh?

221 219,

If these cajun males start kissing each other then I'm putting out the claymores!

222 Doh. Damn sockpuppet.

223 Let me be clear:  Cutting our nuke program will make the world leaders love me more, and because of me, other countries will begin co-existing in a more peaceful and non-aggressive manner.

224 If Barry can incessantly yammer about peace, like he did about healthcare, the Norks will surrender for sure.

225

Funny how we never have plays about a gay Mohammed, huh?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 26, 2010 12:37 PM (B+qrE)

Evidently, it's not gay if it's only your pet goat.

226 Normally, I would assume China is pulling all the strings with the Norks,
but KJI is pretty sick right now (supposedly) and  he is trying to set up one of his sons as successor. So China may or may not have initiated this (but I gotta believe that they would have approved..?) and this is a little saber rattling to distract and divert as he gets his son to shore up his power base.

Or, it could be an all out offensive in order to establish his power base and purge the opponents.

We can't assume it will blow over like it always has. This time their internal politics may require a more serious conflict...

227

It's stuff like this that makes me happy I don;t live on the Eurasian continent(honestly why do we even separate asia and europe they are connected)

Between all the potential conflicts including but not limited to India-Pakistan, India-China, China-everyone, Iran-Arabs, Israel-Iran, Israel-Arabs, Russia-CIS States, Burma-itself,  Europe-lack of domestic child birth, etc. That continent is a f'ing tinderbox

228 Wouldn't want to lose one drop of american blood getting involved in another conflict over there.

229

#224

We think alike, Circa.

Seriously, when is somebody going to make a gay Mohammed play?

230 China and Taiwan make too much money off of each other, the PLA's accountants would never stand for an actual invasion. However, it makes for some good saber rattling to get attention. Now, buying a bunch of votes in the Taiwanese legislature - absolutely. I would put a Chinese invasion of one of the 'Stans or Siberia higher on the list; as well as a renewed scrap with Vietnam or India. If things don't improve soon the PLA may have to go back to killing large numbers of their own soon.

231 Liberal fear Mohammed.  Other religions?  Not so much.

232 Seems to me this would be a good time to send, no strings attached, a check for $200 million to North Korea.

233

Funny how we never have plays about a gay Mohammed, huh?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 26, 2010 12:37 PM (B+qrE)

They don't fear christians.

234 Funny how we never have plays about a gay Mohammed, huh?

Or the pedophile Mohamed either.

235

And planes can do more in some areas that satellites cannot, otherwise we wouldn't still be using planes for spy missions. Do you remember the Hainan plane incident early on in the Bush admin. I know that plane took off from Japan, but I assume we do the same from Korea.

 Posted by: Ben at March 26, 2010 12:15 PM (wuv1c)

There are U-2's at Osan Air Base. And no, I'm not revealing anything new or secret. They've been there for many years and there's usually one in the air at all times. It can do things satellites cannot such as real time intel. The larger aircraft like the one in the Hainan incident are not stationed on the peninsula. The Navy presence is mostly aircraft carriers at sea and other assets off the peninsula. There is one naval base but I'm not sure what exactly is there. Our air assets are pretty much just Kunsan and Osan Air bases although they practice bringing in and bedding down other aircraft from around Asia all the time.

236 215 And steel does not melt!  Bush did this!

Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell at March 26, 2010 12:34 PM (cvmTR)

Nonsense! It was Dick Cheney! He launched the torpedo from the undetectable super-sub that he uses as headquarters for his international web of evil!!!11!!!!

237
It was Dick Cheney! He launched the torpedo from the undetectable super-sub

AKA, his penis.

238 (233, 224) forgive them, they know not what they do.

239

Funny how we never have plays about a gay Mohammed, huh?

Where's the fun in that?  Besides it's not worth the risk of getting one's head removed. 

Remember this is "art" we're talking about.  And it's only ok to offend the sensibilities of Judeo-Christian types.

240  Maybe our POTUS can trow Seoul under da bus with the Israelis. Maybe, offer unilateral disarmament of the S. Koreans and a cut-off of military aid to them to show that we are''committed to peace" Wow, I just had an idea! he can BLAME  the Israelis for encouraging the "belligerent behavior" of the S. Koreans that provoked this act of "legitimate resistance"  by the N. Koreans!

241 Seriously, when is somebody going to make a gay Mohammed play?

I'm reluctant to Bing "gay Mohammed portraits" at work, but I've read about an Iranian-born artist in France who photographs gay Muslim men wearing masks of Mohammed and some of his buddies. Wish I could remember her name. She and her models get threatened whenever she exhibits in public.

Not the same as making a film of Mo sucking off Abu Bakr, but it's a start.

242

Seriously, when is somebody going to make a gay Mohammed play?

I'm reluctant to Bing "gay Mohammed portraits" at work, but I've read about an Iranian-born artist in France who photographs gay Muslim men wearing masks of Mohammed and some of his buddies. Wish I could remember her name. She and her models get threatened whenever she exhibits in public.

Not the same as making a film of Mo sucking off Abu Bakr, but it's a start.

my pet jawa uses those photos all the time.

243

Funny how we never have plays about a gay Mohammed, huh?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 26, 2010 12:37 PM (B+qrE)

People that know that Mohammed was a cocksucking fuckstick are too busy being productive citizens to write plays about a worthless piece of pigshit.

244

Remember this is "art" we're talking about.  And it's only ok to offend the sensibilities of Judeo-Christian types.

Posted by: tank at March 26, 2010 12:43 PM (y3seB)

...because they will only tell you that you're going to Hell as opposed to the mohammedians who will actually try to send you there.

245 There is a mal-distribution of wealth and freedom on the Korean Peninsula. As I've always, fuck you, allies!

246 Where's the liberal Maddy Albright when you need her?  In the past she toasted Kim Jong il, sipped wine with the despot, and if the truth were known she probably offered a little ancient cooter and a hummer to reach agreement.

247 If it was Cheney's penis, then it would be the Barbed Cock of Cheney, not just a penis.

248 There is a mal-distribution of wealth and freedom on the Korean Peninsula.

Hey,leave me out of it.

249 Holy shit, fire up the computer at work and see this.  I musta jinxed this, I said on a thread within the last couple days I was surprised the norks hadn't moved on south korea.

250 Did anyone even notice we reached a SALT extension agreement this week?

251

she probably offered a little ancient cooter and a hummer to reach agreement.

Dude!!  How do I re-program to eliminate that visual?

252

As for the gay jesus . who cares at this point.

i can imagine jokes and stuff like this being funny or cutting edge in say the 1950s, but this is so old hat.

It's not edgy anymore. Acutally it would be suprising if there was ever a stand up routine that didn't involve some joke pertaining to jesus or christians.

I as a jew find this stuff lame. jesus jokes and related material is the last refuge of the uncreative.

 

253 219 Well, the Apocalypse is truly nigh.  Fox reporting a college in Texas (?) doing a play about Gay Jesus.  Has him performing a same-sex wedding and kissing another man.


If those libs were so goddamn tough, they'd have substituted Mohammed for Jesus.
But,  NOoooooo.  Pussies all.  It's like punching grandma.

254

Did anyone even notice we reached a SALT extension agreement this week?

we can finally put the cold war with the Soviet Union to bed.

255 Well, dang. Here I was expecting the next world war to kick off somewhere in the region around northern Iran/Pakistan/Afghanistan/northern India and involving Western China. (Ancient Hindu Kush region.)

256  Well, dang. Here I was expecting the next world war to kick off somewhere in the region around northern Iran/Pakistan/Afghanistan/northern India and involving Western China. (Ancient Hindu Kush region.)

Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at March 26, 2010 12:50 PM (wmtV/)

I expect the next war to kick off somewhere in the region of Washington, D.C.

257 #234  Good point, but if what some are saying about the Chinese "bubble" about to burst are right, then they're going to need a fight. 

258 The Veep predicted that Barry would be tested- he was just off by a few months.

259

186  Yes and no (I taught some kids from SK -- they aren't all wimpy little fucksticks and they'd be willing to put up a good fight).  China will most likely not be happy with this (comes at a bad time for them).  Russia will be happy that China is discomfitted, but ultimately it irks them too (they're busy looking west and now mad Kim is behaving stupidly to the east...little beoytch).  And then there are the Japanese -- who have been a bit tense over the situation in Asia lately anyway...and the Japanese have some hella good pilots....

Then there's the ideas this might give to nutjob -- whose hold on sanity I question strongly.  I've always been of the opinion that Russia and China have stood behind these wacktards just to give the rest of the world a poke every so often...but hanging onto crazy people can oftentimes bite you in the ass (of course, it does no good for the people you poke either, but it bites you in the ass as well).  And I think they're probably thinking the same thing about America dodging the bullet with that old guy and the snowbilly (one of the things they've counted on was at least an American president with nuts and sanity, but mainly nuts....ha ha).

And. here. we. go?  Maybe; let's see how this plays out over the next 72 hourse (already phoned my kids and asked them how they liked the idea of Asia in the springtime -- they told me to sod off...lovingly).

260 The gay Mohammed play basically writes itself. Title: Submit -- the problem is getting around the pedophilia and bestiality to get to plain old gay stuff.

261 Mark my words! There will be an international crisis.

262 Sounds like it's time for a U.N. resolution condemning South Korea for getting in the way of the Nork's torpedo.

263

It's no longer sinking...

ATTN: RECASTS lead; CORRECTS dateline from March 26; UPDATES with president's comments; RESTRUCTURES)
SEOUL, March 27 (Yonhap) -- A South Korean navy ship sank off the west coast near its maritime border with North Korea, officials said Saturday, prompting President Lee Myung-bak to convene a late-night meeting of security-related ministers.

The 1,500-ton ship "Cheonan" went down around 9:45 p.m. near a South Korean island in the Yellow Sea, and 58 of the 104 crew members on board have been rescued so far, navy officials said.

264

Everytime China has attacked Vietnam they have gotten their asses kicked.  Last time was in the 70's.

The ROK was a formidable force in Vietnam, but those guys have all retired and their army has no experienced NCO's.

265 The Veep predicted that Barry would be tested- he was just off by a few months.

It's racism - straight up.  They wouldn't be testing a white man would they?

266

144 Whenever there's a crisis, the President sends his envoy. Who will it be this time? Biden? That would be hilarious

For the rove of God, not Shellif Joe!  We focked!

267 Anyone who's seriously interested in this story ought to start with a map of the Korean peninsula, which alone reveals something, and then consider what gives with the island of Byeongryeong, which is at the center of the story. The island is quite a ways north and west from the mainland parts of South Korea, but actually less than ten miles from the mainland of North Korea. There are waters disputes all along the west side of the peninsula, but none of them are anywhere near as controversial as with this island. It kinda brings to mind the Falklands tussle between Argentina and the Brits, if the Falklands were actually located right offshore from a major Argentinian city/military complex, and the islands themselves were co-occupied entirely by troops from a local enemy nation and British military intel types. Closer to home, it also kinda brings to mind the early 1960s when the former Soviet Union had a big presence in Cuba, except with Cuba dragged sixty or so miles closer to south Florida, and in reverse of course. Confrontational incidents, including potshots, is pretty much a daily thing along the S.K./N.K. border lands and waters, but most particularly in these waters between the S.K./U.S. occupied island and the N.K. mainland shore. Really, what's remarkable, in terms of defying odds, is not this incident, but the fact of how rarely this TYPE of daily incident has NOT resulted in this sort of loss of life and damage.

268 Old Kim may be bat shit crazy but he knows a pussy when we he see's one,I imagine his fly is already unzipped awaiting the official Obama visit.

269
1,500-ton ship "Cheonan"

What kind of vessel is this, squiddies?  Frigate, escort,  a gunned-up junk?

270 If it was Cheney's penis, then it would be the Barbed Cock of Cheney, not just a penis.
Posted by: CDR M

The Chenis!

271
There was a hole beneath the waterline of a South Korean ship that was sinking, the South Korean Defense Ministry announced, the Financial Times reported March 26. The ministry did not specify a cause.

272 202 More rethuglican/teabagger violence.

Posted by: Libtard at March 26, 2010 12:31 PM (ngD76)

Exactly.  Sarah Palin incited Kim Jong Il to violence with her recent "incendiary rhetoric" against the U.S. implementing a nationalized health care system, much like the one in North Korea.

273 Whenever there's a crisis, the President sends his envoy. Who will it be this time? Biden? That would be hilarious

For the rove of God, not Shellif Joe!  We focked!

Posted by: South Korea at March 26, 2010 12:57 PM (jat5l)

If we send Rambiden, the problem will be solved (except for cleaning up all the commie bodies).

274 273,

Just heard on the radio that it was a patrol boat.

275 241
It was Dick Cheney! He launched the torpedo from the undetectable super-sub

AKA, his penis.

Posted by: Dang Straights at March 26, 2010 12:42 PM (fx8sm)

Maybe. But if the Good Captain Warcock did weaponize his penis, I'd think it'd produce something more like a nuclear detonation. No one nearby would be left alive.

276 Has Barry apologized to North Korea yet?

Posted by: TheQuietMan

Barry never did send out those e-vites to the leaders of Venezuela, North Korea, Syria, Iran, and Castro that he promised would go out during his first year in office.

(and sock off)

277 This calls for immediate action!

Who do I need to bow to?

278 We'd like to apologize if anything the lunatics on our side of the aisle said or did contributed to this unfortunate trajedy.

279 209 Celebrity death match - Kim Jong Il and Nancy Pelosi with her "toys-r-us" gavel.  Predictions?

Posted by: tank at March 26, 2010 12:33 PM (y3seB)

That freakin' gavel she was walking around with looked like the one Mario uses in "Donkey Kong."  Then again, Pelosi is a cartoon character so no one should be surprised.

280 @260 

 True. The only real question is whether the next civil war starts before, during or after the next world war.

281 273
1,500-ton ship "Cheonan"

What kind of vessel is this, squiddies?  Frigate, escort,  a gunned-up junk?

Posted by: Dang Straights at March 26, 2010 12:59 PM (fx8sm)

It's similar to a small American destroyer

Armament:

2 OTO Mellara(76mm)/62 compact

2 Breda 40mm/70

4 RGM-84D Harpoon SSM

2 MM-38 Exocet

MK-46 mod 2

282

271  Yeah, guess this is what makes this incident a little special.

And ditto, just the person we need in charge, not.  Wonder if this will play out in that presser??

283

The Cheonan is a Pohang class corvette.

284 Dammit to fucking hell.  Fox reporting Israeli army patrol came under attack by Hamas.  Some Israeli soldiers killed.

Stupid jackass Barky.  There are no words.....

285

Look up 'Tentacle erotica' in wikipedia. They have pictures.

Posted by: madtechie

Two octopuses on one woman?! You'd think one octopus would be enough.

286 Cheonan -- http://tinyurl.com/ybv7ayu -- the wiki is already updated, a corvette.

287 I blame the horned chinese woman. 

288
The Cheonan is a Pohang class corvette.

Damn, sounds expensive.

289 Well, sh!t. That was a possibility I had on the table...

 i.e. everything collapses into chaos, death and destruction all at once...

But...

 I kinda thought there might be a 'cascade effect' starting in one location. You know, some idiot getting lost and driving down the wrong street at just the wrong time or sumpin'.

290 "And planes can do more in some areas that satellites cannot, otherwise we wouldn't still be using planes for spy missions. Do you remember the Hainan plane incident early on in the Bush admin. I know that plane took off from Japan, but I assume we do the same from Korea."

So you want to risk getting our guys into an all out war with a nuclear power (headed by a wacko) so we can have a marginally better spy-on-China effort? Doesn't seem like a good risk/reward trade-off to me.

291 288 Dammit to fucking hell.  Fox reporting Israeli army patrol came under attack by Hamas.  Some Israeli soldiers killed.

Stupid jackass Barky.  There are no words.....

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 26, 2010 01:08 PM (UOM4

Two IDF soldiers were killed in the southern Gaza Strip on Friday evening, the IDF announced several hours after clashes occurred near the town of Khan Younis in the Strip.

Another soldier was seriously wounded in the incident and another one was lightly wounded.

One of the casualties was a high-ranking officer. The identity of the slain soldiers was not yet released for publications.

Hamas spokesman Abu Obeida told Hamas radio that IDF forces "fell into an ambush" set by Hamas terrorists east of Khan Younis. He did not elaborate.

292 A corvette is a small ship, I don't think we have had anything that small in a long time. So it doesn't correlate to a USN ship, maybe one of small USCG cutters - with more guns/missiles.

293 Two octopuses on one woman?! You'd think one octopus would be enough.

Posted by: arhooley at March 26, 2010 01:08 PM (M/+ha)

Ahem

294

It could have been a mine too - but I'm thinking there must be some kind of mine detection equipment ships have, right?

In any event,  I don't put anything past NK.

295 Corvette is just a light frigate. The ship is 1350 tons, 104 crew. Half of that crew was killed in the attack. Hole beneath waterline consistent with torpedo, and explains failure of damage control efforts and rapid compartment flooding.

People trying to think of this as a minor deal have a screw loose.

296 Way OT  - An amazing obituary in the classic British Style

Baroness Park Of Monmouth (she held the highest post in the SIS ever achieved by a woman)    LINK

"Her acts of courage reaped rich rewards. She once smuggled Lumumba's private secretary to safety in the boot of her little Citroen 2CV. "[The car] was excellent cover," she said. "Nobody ever takes 2CVs seriously. But that's not why I had it – if they'd let me loose in anything bigger I'd have been lethal. My director once told me the bravest thing he'd ever done in his life was to be driven round by me." Lumumba's secretary subsequently became head of the Intelligence Service in the new government, and one of the most useful sources in Daphne Park's career."

297 conscious, it is a lot smaller then a US destroyer (8K tons) or frigate (4K tons). It would be unlikely to survive a hit from a mine, torpedo, or anti-ship missile. There is also another RoK ship with he same name - a converted US LST - so we might have the wrong vessel entirely.

298

'member when teh CNN was held up as the vanguard for honest, up-to-the-minute reporting?  Yeah, I'm starting to forget too--the lede story on their site is the ongoing saga with the fat dyke who wants to bring another fat dyke to her senior prom.

 

299

1) Do you think this has anything to do with china's imminent hostile takeover of the US?

2) Do you really think that Obama will consider those 30K troops, put there by a previous administration, America's problem?

300 Didn't read the whole thread, so if someone didn't say it already...

If Kim was going to launch an aggressive, he chose the right time to do it, while we have Jesus McTalkPeace in office.  He'll be like Carter only worse.

Good luck to our former allies.

301

ot and re: the Hamas attack...well, here's an opportunity for Israel, no?

Barky may not support support Israel, like he should mind you, but I highly doubt he would be allowed to openly attack Israel if the Islamofacists start something (at some point our military does have a say so in these things, and Israel is far too strategically important to us to go all in for the other side...of course, this is el precedente and fiends we're talking about here). At worst perhaps a strongly worded, stern letter -- oh no, that would crush Bibi (again, that was snark).

302 303 Well, he won't be able to just leave them there for a slaughter.  He doesn't have enough control of the public to do that.  And again, the military does have some say in these sorts of things.  It wouldn't go over well I'm sure.

303 Spectrum is green.

304

Not to worry. If they make their ships like they make their cars, its engine probably overheated and melted its plastic hull.

305 "I heard it was a Toyota that accelerated off a bridge and slammed into the side of the ship."   Stole this comment off another site.

306 How long before President Dictator for Life Hussein scolds South Korea for provoking the Norks by putting their ship in the way of the Norks missile?

That's smart diplomacy in action!

307 This is nothing more than a tempest in a teapot.

308 Alrighty here is achance for Obama to get those poll numbers up !! just remeber what war did for W

309

Lee said an unexplained hole in the bottom of the ship caused the vessel to take on water. South Korea's Yonhap news agency reported that the ship was damaged by an explosion, and said the military had not ruled out the possibility of an attack by North Korea.

 

Is that like unexpected?

310

Anyone want to take bets that Russia annexes the Baltic countries before the end of the Obama administration?

The Baltic countries are now in NATO. That would be a real test.

I think Putin will start with Georgia first.

311 "Yonhap news agency also reported a South Korean navy ship firing towards an unidentified vessel to the north."

This interprets two ways.
1. Two S.Korean vessels, one SKorean friendly fire on another.
2. One S.Korean vessel hit by N.Korean fire, and returns fire before sinking.

312

"The Baltic countries are now in NATO. That would be a real test. I think Putin will start with Georgia first."--Curmudgeon

I think you're right. Effectively NATO amounts to a feathered bonnet that the US wears on parade.

313 "...so if anything starts, we are in it." Never ended, which is why the troops are there. Looks like little Kim wants to go out with a bang.

314 "In From the Cold" has a good post up. http://goo.gl/KMNO

315 BREAKING NEWS: Obama to withdraw US Korean Garrison to Police Tea Parties. "The President has a very clear perception of who the real enemy is," said WH spokesman Robert Gibbs.

316 "war between these two entities will produce casualties on a scale we have not seen since probably WW2. I'm not so sure of that." Thanks for nothing.

317 Well, this is one Korean interaction that won't have a happy ending.

"Unexplained hole" indeed.

318 Thanks for nothing.

Don't forget about me, now.

319

...we can finally put the cold war with the Soviet Union to bed.

And fire up the cold civil war Barky is itching for.

320

Who needs war?

 

321 We have about 30,000 troops stationed in South Korea so if anything starts, we are in it. Thanks man....I just spewed soda all over the computer room. Where was the /sarc tag?? Well, I guess it's time for Hilly to head over there with a 'restart' button. While the one starts repositioning our troops in the area to somewhere that poses more of a threat.........hmmmm, DC comes to mind

322

Maybe we should let the SK govt investigate before we start presuming this is an attack? This could have been an accident  just as easily  as it could be an attack.

323 In case y'all didn't recall, Jimmy Carter tried to get the US troops out of Korea.  Not sure how he failed, being the CinC, but thank God he did, because the US presence is why South Korea is a vibrant and great nation.

Obama will probably attempt to do the same, and is kicking himself for waiting around.

He sides with the bad guys.  Every fucking time.  I have good friends in Area 1 in Korea, so I sure hope this doesn't blow up.  There was something like this when I was stationed there... they have a lot of naval disputes, but this is taking it to the next level.

It's too late in the year for North Korea to invade, so I think they expect the good guys to not interpret this as an imminent invasion.  But there is a tremendous capability to kill millions of people without an invasion.  Why?  Because of the insanity of North Korea.  Our strategic position is excellent and North Korea would have no chance of winning the war, even if we had equal air forces (obviously we have the upper hand there too), but that doesn't matter to the elites who want to hold millions of South Koreans hostages for more goodies.

324 #93  Also, why would anyone want the philippine islands. Seriously? What is there value, I still to this day don't know

Simple... Imagine a tropical, south Pacific island filled with LBFM's that look like Michelle Malkin...

Got it now??

325

Maybe we should let the SK govt investigate before we start presuming this is an attack? This could have been an accident  just as easily  as it could be an attack.

Posted by: JEA at March 26, 2010 03:36 PM (AfORa)

The only accident is you.

326

#326 - Are you the JEA who is a school teacher in Georgia? The one who used to bust the balls of the looniest of loony loonies on Ann Coulter's website?

327 May need to track that back...some reports coming in that the radar echo they fired at may have been a flock of birds, and the explosion may have been an accidental detonation. Trying to find reliable sourcing...

328

329 #324 - Now, that's your best thought so far this month.

330 A cloak of deception is being pulled down around this event.

Ships don't simply explode while in close proximity to hostile territory. Holes don't form below the water line for an "accident".

The hull of  a modern combat vessel is strong enough to handle internal detonations of engines, boilers, and magazine safety precautions in a modern navy are extremely high.

The reason people are now saying this is an accident? Nobody wants to deal with the implications of it being a real attack.

I wonder if they'll try to explain away the next ship loss as a random collision with a whale.

331 The buzz words there are South Korean ship. Does the word Origami ring a bell?

332

@336 Alexander, couldn't agree more: the curtain has been 'wrung down' on this one. A bone of contention: the skin of patrol vessels is not strong enough to contain a major engine incident. Generally, the hulls of all modern warships are pitiable.

I'll go ahead and mention Cole.

 

333 Assoc Press is the main source on the 'possibly an accident' theory so far. Let's throttle it back folks--this may be less than it first appeared; I don't know about anyone else, but the previous decade's lessons on going to war on less than complete information should be instructing our reactions...somewhat more than they seem to be...

334 Isn't the government in charge of Taiwian looking to peacefully integrate with China?

Both sides have always considered themselves one people.  As the PRC liberalizes and develops a middle class, the reasons for the split will become less and less.  It may take the last of the old guard in both countries dying off before serious reunification will take place though.

I'd give it maybe a 20-30 year horizon.

335 I wonder who we'll side with in this dispute.

336 Two octopuses on one woman?! You'd think one octopus would be enough.

Posted by: arhooley at March 26, 2010 01:08 PM (M/+ha)

The true meaning of Octopussy.

337 Brian and Dianne:  RoK builds decent ships.  IIRC this class or its replacement was being considered along with a Turkish boat of about the same size; to be leased by the USN is the tanker convoy/reflagging mission had extended in the Gulf several years ago.  It isn't a toy - but it cannot take a significant hit.

Having an accident in those waters doesn't survive Occam's razor - but it makes a good cover story until things calm down.

338

"Are you the JEA who is a school teacher in Georgia?"

No, I don't live in Georgia, and I especially don't waste my valuable time reading Coulter.

339

"Are you the JEA who is a school teacher in Georgia?"

No, I don't live in Georgia, and I especially don't waste my valuable time reading Coulter.

Posted by: JEA at March 26, 2010 08:38 PM (umdAg)

 

 

Ah, but you do waste your "valuable" time reading AOS. 

Hmmmm, what's wrong with that picture? 

So what have we learned from JEA's post today folks?

A. That he is a psuedo snob wannabee.

B. That he is a pervert who feels much more at home here.

C. That there is an arrest warrant out for him in Georgia?

D. All of the above.

340 Wow. You're up to 6th grade level insults.

341

Aw, you're just say'n that to make me feel good ..., and I am flattered.

But you give me too much credit.

Di says that I have the mind of a precocious and incorrigible three-year-old, who bounced out of his mommy's womb already in puberty.

 

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