1 If the Saints win, guarantee you'll hear about Katrina everyday and how it was Bush's fault.

2 Who Dat?

3 I'm all about Indy and Peyton, but why the hell does CBS have to show the Manning home videos everytime Nantz broadcasts a Colts game?  Seriously, I have seen that footage at least 25 times over the last 5 years.  And I am willing to wager $50 that CBS uses the footage again for its Superbowl intro.

4 Better cheerleader than the other thread.

5 And there are so many other stories....Reggie Wayne grew up in NOLA, Joey Addai played for LSU...Peyton and Eli chartered a jet and flew down with bottled water to help Katrina victims...Drew Breesus played football in Indiana (at Purdue)...

6 I don't have a dog in the fight.

7

It's a damn shame the Jets are out of it.  We really have a shortage of obnoxious New Yorkers down here in Miami to make Superbowl week a fargin nightmare for the locals.  I doubt the rowdies from Indianapolis are up to it.

If the Saints make it will anyone be watching the SB?  I know the wife will have the Kitteh Bowl on no matter what, so in our house it makes no difference.

 

8 It's either two weeks of Favre or two weeks of katrina, either way it's gonna be a loooooooonnnnnggggggg two weeks.

9 Manning crushing Favre's "second ring" quest en route to crushing all his records (except the INT record, he'll keep that one) would be pretty sweet.  But I like New Orleans.

10 I doubt the rowdies from Indianapolis are up to it.

Lock up your cows.

11

12 "I'm all about Indy and Peyton, but why the hell does CBS have to show the Manning home videos everytime Nantz broadcasts a Colts game?" Those home videos pay Archie Manning a better retirement stipend than the NFL does.

13 If the Vikings do win, Favre needs to legally change his name to "Forty Year-old Brett Favre,"  because that's how every sports reporter is going to refer to him.

He can legally change it on his birthday, just like Ochocinco will if he's traded.

14 Oh, and how to spot a Steelers' fan?  He'll be the guy walking around muttering, "We coulda beat the Colts" for the next two weeks.

15 Pretty, but kinda flat. 

Geaux Drew and the Saints!

16 I expect the Saints to win, but pulling for them is like cheering for a toothache. If they make it to the SB, the next two weeks will be nothing but Bush (Reggie and W) and Katrina and how this game is helping to rebuild a city. Meh.

17 So if Saints win, you don't think we'll hear about Manning vs Breese?

It called sports writing, Drew.  They write about quarterbacks.  Really, they do.

Why?  Damn if I know, something about quarterbacks always get to touch the ball more than the other players.

Doesn't seem fair does it?  Maybe "The One" could change the rules next year.

18 Nice tackling by the Vikes.
har har

19 Oh, and that cheerleader is HOT.  Don't they have plastic surgeons in NO?  That girl needs some tits.

20 If the 'Aints win, I hope to hear for the next 2 weeks how Manning is playing his daddy's ole team.  His daddy did play for the 'Aints, am I right?

21 Now I know why they paired Joe Buck and Troy Aikman.  Buck is a moron and they wanted to screw up only one broadcasting team and not two.  "If you expected a shoot-out, you are getting your wish."  WTF???????  It's 7-7 midway in the first quarter.  That's a shoot-out?

22 6 I don't have a dog in the fight.

Early lead, but "lock your cows up" is a strong second.

Morons need to start a TV show!  I only want 5% for this idea.

23 19

Just thinking the same thing, Kemp.

It's nothing that ten grand and a week off work wouldn't take care of.

Maybe we ought to pass a hat.

24 It's either two weeks of Favre or two weeks of katrina, either way it's gonna be a loooooooonnnnnggggggg two weeks.

It's worse than that, the Colts have a player last name Garcon, from Haiti.

25 SteveL. that is what I just said!!!!  7-7 halfway through is NOT a big offensive show!

26 #23
10 grand?  Shit I think it's less than 5!  Maybe we could to a money bomb like Scott did, and keep the extra.  We'll need her name.

27 Buck sucks.

Aikman has some annoying habits (such as inserting 'what' and 'to where' into every other sentence) but I actually think he's a pretty good color commentator compared to a lot of the former players (like Collinsworth). 

28 Heh.  Haven't shopped lately.  Mrs. Smith was NOT amused.

29 Collinsworth was a great player, but he's an utter douche.

30 the Colts have a player last name Garcon, from Haiti.

Why is that bad?

(He's actually first-generation American; parents emigrated from Haiti before he was born.)

31 I can't believe this is the second to last football thread. 
_{snif, snif}

32 @30

It's bad in the sense that instead of focusing on football, they networks will have all sorts of excuses to do human interest stories and inject pro-Obama crap. 

33 32

Proposed solution:  Avoid network television.

It changed my life.

34 It's bad in the sense that instead of focusing on football, they networks will have all sorts of excuses to do human interest stories and inject pro-Obama crap.

They were going to do that no matter who was playing.

Although I notice no one's made a big display of "Jim Caldwell, BLACK coach."  Yet.

35 Proposed solution:  Avoid network television.

Yeah, I do as much as possible.  The only studio show I watch is Fox's NFL pregame. 

Trouble is, even ESPN is politicized. 

36 They were going to do that no matter who was playing.

How would they do that if it had been Jets vs Vikings? 

37 Jonathan Vilma of the Saints is also Haitian-American.  And three of the Chargers.  As soon as the quake hit, it was going to be part of the Super Bowl. 

38 Vilma used to play for the Jets.

39

13 If the Vikings do win, Favre needs to legally change his name to "Forty Year-old Brett Favre,"  because that's how every sports reporter is going to refer to him.

Too bad they won't get to talk about him being the oldest player in the super bowl along with it.  As they mentioned during the Colts game, their kicker Stover will be 42 years 11 days old on the super bowl.

40 You know, my coke dealer is a Haitian-American, too.

Damn...my heart goes out to the guy.

41 @39

'Got his address?

42 No matter who wins, it's guaranteed that the sportswriters and sportscasters will bring out the lefty douchiness

Will we get a commercial of King Barry sacking a 10 year old kid?

43 >the Colts have a player last name Garcon, from Haiti.

>Why is that bad?

>(He's actually first-generation American; parents emigrated from Haiti before he was born.)

I believe concern was being voiced regarding the overdramaticization of team/player histories in the run up to (especially pregame for) the Superbowl.  Instead of just two weeks on Katrina, imagine two weeks on Katrina and Haiti.  And bear in mind the Superbowl is going to be on the famously fair and balanced CBS.

44 1) Joe Buck must die.

2) I hope Brett Fahvruh is turned into a pretzel.

3) I've already stopped wearing my Patriots hat and wore the Red Sox hat instead about two weeks ago.

Too soon?

45 And bear in mind the Superbowl is going to be on the famously fair and balanced CBS.

Could be worse. Imagine NBC doing it again with Olbamamann, Collinsworthless, Costas the elitist douche, and Matt Millen

46 Or, what everyone else said.

Too bad they won't get to talk about him being the oldest player in the super bowl along with it.  As they mentioned during the Colts game, their kicker Stover will be 42 years 11 days old on the super bowl.

That just means Brett can't retire yet.

47 Yeah, the Katrina stuff is really annoying, but Drew is a great guy so I try to tune it out. 

Maybe if they win the SB this year the networks will stop pushing the Katrina stuff. 

Personally, I think N.O. should be ashamed at how effed up they've been on the recovery.  It's embarrassing to have a major U.S. city that's functioning little better than a third world country. 

48 The NFL wants to project an image of "social concern."  They projected about Katrina all through the 2005 season, they projected about breast cancer every game in October, they've been projecting about "childhood obesity" all season, and they started projecting about Haiti as soon as info about the devastation started hitting the states.

Leave Pierre alone.

49 19 The pom pom intersects the bust line, & makes it look smaller than it is. Remove the pom pom, & she has a big bust. 

^{Ugh, the things I do for the Morons...}

50 Personally, I think N.O. should be ashamed at how effed up they've been on the recovery.  It's embarrassing to have a major U.S. city that's functioning little better than a third world country.

You only have to watch the show 'Bait Car' to see how inept their criminals are too.

51
Too soon?

Posted by: Mortis at January 24, 2010 07:24 PM (hA5JK)

You don't have a Bruins hat?

52 You don't have a Bruins hat?

Actually, I don't.

I live with a Rangers fan. It's bad enough I wear my Bruins jersey when we go to Wolfpack games.

53 The pom pom intersects the bust line, & makes it look smaller than it is. Remove the pom pom, & ...........................bunk

54 49

Thank you, Miss 80's.  I think you just saved (or created) me five grand.

55 49 - I agree, she has very nice pom-poms.

56 Posted by: Mortis at January 24, 2010 07:28 PM (hA5JK)

Yeah, go with the Sox...

57 Yeah, go with the Sox...

Posted by: Shannow

Bruins are on their 'Let's see how bad we can be' kick at the moment.

I turned the game off today when they were down 3-0.

58 Remove the pom pom

Is this a euphemism?   To the Urban Dictionary, Batman!

59 TD!

60 After all the Katrina refugees were invied to Houston and brought every bad element with them, I have a really hard time rooting for a team from New Orleans.

61 That was a good catch.

Not as good a catch as Elizabeth is.

But close.

62 It's embarrassing to have a major U.S. city that's functioning little better than a third world country.

Hey!

63 Leave Pierre alone.

I don't mean to pick on the guy, and I'm glad his family all made it.  I just don't think CBS is going to let the crisis go to waste.

And if the either the Saints or Colts win, let your mind wander about what that trip to the White House will turn into.

64 62 It's embarrassing to have a major U.S. city that's functioning little better than a third world country.

Hey!
Posted by: Detroit, Chicago, and Gary at January 24, 2010 07:37 PM

Ahem!

65 Y'all stop talking about hearing 2 weeks of this or that. Turn off ESPN.

66 58

At a corporate function last night, I somehow got going on the Urban Dictionary over a few drinks.

Big mistake:  Looking up "Rusty Trombone."

67 I can't root for the Saints because Shockey is on their roster.  Even as a Giants fan, I could not stand this mofo. However, I agree if it's Colts/Vikings, we will be deluged with Manning/Favre crap.

BTW, whose genius idea was it to move the Pro-Bow to the week BEFORE the Super Bowl?

68 64 62 It's embarrassing to have a major U.S. city that's functioning little better than a third world country.

Hey!
Posted by: Detroit, Chicago, and Gary at January 24, 2010 07:37 PM

Ahem! Posted by: E St Louis, Camden, Compton, & Youngstown at January 24, 2010 07:40 PM

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Hola!

69 68 64 62 It's embarrassing to have a major U.S. city that's functioning little better than a third world country.

Hey!
Posted by: Detroit, Chicago, and Gary at January 24, 2010 07:37 PM

Ahem! Posted by: E St Louis, Camden, Compton, & Youngstown at January 24, 2010 07:40 PM

---

Hola!
Posted by: Ca-lee-foor-nya at January 24, 2010 07:46 PM

Hello, is anybody still here?

70 BTW, whose genius idea was it to move the Pro-Bow to the week BEFORE the Super Bowl?

The Commish.

It's asinine.  You can't tell me that they lose fan interest for the Super Bowl in those two weeks and, moreover, for those of us who are real football fans, ensuring that the best players won't play really kills the interest in the Pro Bowl.  Plus, I like seeing the broadcast, and the skills competition, from Hawaii.

71 Y'all stop talking about hearing 2 weeks of this or that. Turn off ESPN.

Even if we avoid TV, Gabe or DrewM will post on it.  Then ace will double post it.

72 Did they move the Pro Bowl to avoid conflict with the Olympics?

73 Some farmer in Minnesota hasn't shaved his beard since 1974, when the Vikings lost to the Steelers in the Superbowl.

"...The 79-year-old PearsonÂ’s now-white beard reaches well down his chest. Three of his five children have never seen his face clean-shaven. He says his wife of 53 years is desperately hoping this is the year the Vikings pull it off, so he can shave it off."


bit.ly/7650on

74 72 Did they move the Pro Bowl to avoid conflict with the Olympics?

I don't think so.

I think they moved it to generate more interest in the Pro Bowl.

Perhaps with the economy down, Hawaii was a bad location, and by having it next week in Miami they think there will be more interest.

I think it's stupid. 

What they need to do is make incentives for the players to perform well.  I'd try some kind of incentives for statistical performance... most passing yards, receiving, scores, or whatever. 

Even if you moved it off the Island, I'd put it on the opposite coast from the Super Bowl. 

75 @73

I guess there's not much to do in Minnesota!

76 They showed Favre's hometown in Shithole MS, now I can die happy that I've been told everything worth knowing

77 Corn or beans. Beans or corn. Those are the big choices for farmers, from year to year.

Stubborn folks, too.

78 Vikings are pussies.

79 BTW, whose genius idea was it to move the Pro-Bow to the week BEFORE the Super Bowl?

Has Obumbles appointed a Football Czar and somehow we missed it?  Sure seems like his brand of stupid.

80 wow, is this flag football?  or fag football?

81 Intentional touching of a deeply personal nature, 200 yard penalty, first down Care Bears.

82 What was that about?

83 advancing a punt or something,..i blame bushitler.

84
and here comes Brett Favre!

85 14-14 at the half is a moral victory for the saints.  let's not do this.

86 Regarding the Katrina recovery, it took Miami ten years to recover from Andrew, and they didn't have a sizable chunk of the country going, "Screw those drunken bums!", even before the storm made landfall...

87 Dang, talk about an emotional roller coaster! 

88 Tied at half-time with 2 compensating fumble recoveries! Close game so far, even with the Special Favre rules in place.

89 If it is the Vikings vs Colts, the Vikings will lose their fifth Superbowl. 

90 I would root for a team of yellow dogs vs the Colts.

91 Yeah, it's like so totally awful how people talk about New Orleans and its hyper efficient government.

92 I'll go for anybody who can give Manning a bad day.

93 WHO DAT!!!

94 89 If it is the Vikings vs Colts, the Vikings will lose their fifth Superbowl. 

Posted by: Pelayo at January 24, 2010 08:22 PM (8NGHm)

If it's Saints v. Colts, NO gets to lose their first.

95 yeah but I don't want to hear about how New Orleans came through a crises with Katrina ect blah blah blah so either way we are screwed!

96

Those home videos pay Archie Manning a better retirement stipend than the NFL does.

Okay, I hadn't thougtht about that fact. 

97 Archie who?

98 Archie Bunker

99 I think he was quarter back for the North Dakota Bigots.

100 Oh, you lucky sack of shit.

101 Jeez, take Peterson out of the game

102 Quick, someone give Adrian Peterson some glue for his hands.

Yikes.

103 That call sucked.

104 Bleh, flag football.  Plus you have to give him a reach around or it's a 15 yard penalty if you tackle the old fart.

105 Whoops!

106 An old man's knees go first.

107 Hay, Bert!  Your team isn't wearing gold OR black.  Try to remember that.

108 Wow, Fuck the Saints and there cheap hit specialists.  They deserve another hurricane.

109 I hope Favre ends up with a Viking horn shoved up his @ss.

110

Looks like the Vikings got the word to throw it to the Saints.  They're apparently doing everything possible to lose convincingly.   When are we going to stop feeling sorry for "the suffering inflicted by Katrina?"

 

111 108 Wow, Fuck the Saints and there cheap hit specialists.  They deserve another hurricane.

Posted by: Methos at January 24, 2010 08:59 PM (Xsi7M)

Man I wish the Boys would have got some of those in last week.

112

Wow - a Viking just called for, and made, a fair catch and was not plowed into the field!  Imagine that...

 

113

Saints are intentionally trying to hurt Favre.

Wow, that's some disgusting sorry punk ghetto shiznat.

 

114 Saints - as dirty and cheap as the city they play for.

115

After reading the comments, I'm conflicted. I don't know who to root for.

 

Go 'Aints.

116

Saints are intentionally trying to hurt Favre.

Wow, that's some disgusting sorry punk ghetto shiznat.

Posted by: me at January 24, 2010 09:04 PM (cu0m1)

Well, they do represent a city where the police took part in the looting after a disaster.  It's all just part of the local ethos.

117 Methos, you don't want to get hit, play slow pitch softball with the girls.

118 And now if the Vikings win they'll get to talk up how Favre did it all with an injury.  Oops fumble.  Might not have to worry about that.

119 FUMBLE!

120

3 I'm all about Indy and Peyton, but why the hell does CBS have to show the Manning home videos everytime Nantz broadcasts a Colts game?  Seriously, I have seen that footage at least 25 times over the last 5 years.  And I am willing to wager $50 that CBS uses the footage again for its Superbowl intro.

As someone from Indiana, I think it's pretty much time for the Anchors from ALL networks to quit inadvertantly referring to "The Baltimore Colts"....and yes, they still do. Sommerall and Madden are both muliple repeat offenders.

In a conversation with Gov. Mitch Daniels last month I suggested he institute a "fine" of $5,000 (increasing in $5K increments for repeats) for any announcer making that mistake, with the proceeds going to a charity of Mitch's choice. We both agreed that if it happened you'd probably see Madden or Ditka or some other overpaid douchebag commentator do it deliberately just so they could pony up and "apologize" while "paying up" in front of a camera. Knowing full well that $5K would get them national face time on all the networks which is a heck of a lot cheaper than a SuperBowl Commercial Minute.

Indy stole nothing. Baltimore drove them out. If Baltimore had built the facility the Colts needed they'd still be there today. Baltimore refused, and it cost them 3 times the loss to build that facility and buy a NEW NFL franchise. Meanwhile the whole midwest worships the Indianpolis Colts.

 

121 I see Viking fans are already whining.......

122 Yeah, the Vikings don't seem to want the ball very much.

123 Ok, I'm wrong....not the whole midwest. There's still a dozen or so people who go see Da Bears and residents of the mistake by the lake all go watch the Browns. But there's definately more Colts fans in Cincinnati than Bengals fans.

124 What do expect? The guy is two years older than dirt and the refs want to make up for bushitlers treatment of nola.

125 I'm actually a Cowboys fan.  It's just clear that the scum of New Orleans have taken it upon themselves to end Favre's career during the course of the game.  I guess that lets shit like Cybrludite get his thug on, but it's nothing to cheer for fans of the game.

126 Who Dat??

127

Packer fan here.....Lemme start by saying I f'n hate the Vikings.

But the shot at the back of Brett's legs was pretty damn cheap.

128 What's up with all this snow?

129 Fuck the Saints.  I haven't seen such a blatant attempt to injure a quarterback since Namath was on the field. 

130 125 I'm actually a Cowboys fan.  It's just clear that the scum of New Orleans have taken it upon themselves to end Favre's career during the course of the game.  I guess that lets shit like Cybrludite get his thug on, but it's nothing to cheer for fans of the game.

Posted by: Methos at January 24, 2010 09:13 PM (Xsi7M)

I haven't seen any unusually hard hits, just one unusually fragile QB.  Oh, and a whole lot of fumbles.

131 129 - Including Brady's kill-hit at the start of 2008?

132 Well, now that NO is up, the Viks can start playing again.  Once they tie it back up, it'll be back to the keystone cops antics...

133 It's just a game.

134 Love teh Favre. Love teh Saints. Deciding factor: Al Franken. Who are they going to send up next, Bozo the Clown? This ain't Romper Room, you Viking pukes, get serious or die. To hell with Minnesota after that insult upon the land. Gratz to Massachusetts, unlikely heroes, true heroes, for helping save us from -- Minnesota. Die, Minnesota, die, die, die!

135 Great, DirecTV has lost the signal.

Dammit.

136 I haven't seen any cheap shots.  I did see a bullshit call from the refs in the first half after a clean sack.

137 134 Love teh Favre. Love teh Saints. Deciding factor: Al Franken.

Posted by: Cowboy at January 24, 2010 09:18 PM (zwrlc)

Ok - hard to argue with that logic. 

138 Better challenge that one

139 Oh, belay that.

140 Methos, I'm sure it's a shock to you in the age of the Brady-fided NFL, but if you take the snap, get get knocked on your ass. That's how the game is played.

141 Neither team is my favorite or my most hated so I don't care who wins. BUT, this is not jello wrestling. I haven't seen any intentional cripple shots.

142 It's just a game.

Well, I'm not suggesting criminal indictments for the Saints' defense, but a nice juicy fine for the guy that went after Favre's knees is certainly in order.  And for their coach for putting out the bounty on him (anncrs. mentioned he did the same thing to Warner last week.).

143 Methos apparently you know more about what is going on than I do. I will defer to you from now on.

144 It appears that whoever has the ball last will win.

145 Saints player just farted in Favre's general direction.

Better call the commish.  They're obviously trying to kill the poor soul.

146 Brett's old lady.,,,,,i'd hit that with a time machine set for 1992

147 134 Love teh Favre. Love teh Saints. Deciding factor: Al Franken.

Posted by: Cowboy at January 24, 2010 09:18 PM (zwrlc)

So glad to hear that

148 Posted by: Mary Landrieu, 300 million billion dollar whore at January 24, 2010 09:38 PM

Hey, I have standards you know!

149 Hey, I have standards you know!

Posted by: Mary Landrieu, 300 billion dollar whore at January 24, 2010 09:39 PM

Me too!

150 Dang, fumble or personal foul wins it?

151 over. time.

152 Hate Favre the diva but NO is trying real hard to lose here..WTF is with the fumbles?

153 150 Dang, fumble or personal foul wins it?

Posted by: The Dread Pirate Neck Beard at January 24, 2010 09:42 PM (omzpd)

I think the odds favor fumble.  It's been dropped so often one might think the ball was greased.

154 one might think the ball was greased.
 verily,.....dipped in grease perhaps.

155 we're gonna need a bigger pudding cup

156 And never bet against a Farve when the SupperBoll is on the line . . . . hahahaha

157 Saints may be thugs, but at least we can count.

158 Har har har!  That's the Favre we all know and love.

Booya!

159 Haha!

Ha!

Hohoho!

Choak!

160

holy shit

 

161 Oh, for .... I'm gonna get him drunk, and shave him anyway.

162 So Porter somewhat redeems himself after missing that tackle, but not really.

163 Maybe the Vikes really are throwing this game.  That penalty was assinine, and now the fucked up pass.

164

ot

 

165 NFL overtime rules suck.  I just want to get that out there.

166 Those dang Saints are playin' dirty.  How dare they intercept our Lord Favre!

167 Put all your money on Indi

168 Cybrludite, I agree on the excess of Brady rules.  I wouldn't even mind the late hits (I can remember when those just made Favre mad, and more accurate), it's just the strike at his knees crossed a well designated line in the game (same reason chop-blocks are dealt with harshly on the field and off).  The personal attack on you was more my outrage than me speaking, and you probably don't warrant it, as several folks here don't seem to have seen that particular replay.

169 Oh look, someone tackled Drew Brees.  Must have been a cheap shot.  Call the commish.

170 and you probably don't warrant it, as several folks here don't seem to have seen that particular replay.

 This is what i have to deal with on healthcare.

171 Yeah, this is what I like, the game being won on a penalty.

172 Huh, he should try out for the Olympic diving team.

173 That was not a catch, he never had possession.  Vikings need to challenge that.

174 Jeebus Christmas, do either of these teams actually want to win this game?

175 But but but, you called Pass Interference every other time we ddn't catch it!

176 I don't who sucks more:  The Queens, the Aints, or the refs.

177 the 5 turnovers notwithstanding, that was a ton of horseshit officiating.  Vikings got fucked.

178

Didn't look like a catch, but hey, nice homer call.

Game over

 

179 That's a wrap.

180 Not even going to watch the superbowl.  who gives a fuck which loser wins.  bullshit imo.

181

Colts v Saints.

Can't wait!

182

WOOT!

Sorry, Favre. You still teh man. But hot death to Minnesota.

183 Any bets on if Favre will cry during the post game interview/press conference and make it sound like he might be done again?

184 Get ready for the Brett Favre Retirement saga, part 6.

185 the 5 turnovers notwithstanding, that was a ton of horseshit officiating.  Vikings got fucked.

Agree.  Except that if Favre had just run it out on his last play in regulation, the Vikings would have won by a FG with no OT.  But, yeah, the officiating was teh suck on this game.

186 Go Saints. Now I'm really conflicted because I also love Peyton and the Colts.

187

Now the Viqueens don't get the chance to go 0-5 and down in history as the biggest losers in the NFL

 

and I think Brett has lost more NFC championship games in overtime than any other QB.  Another record YAY!

188 Brett Favre weeping retirement speech in 3....2.......

Fuck you Viqueens.

189 No, seriously, I've got frost on my pitchfork. What the here is going on?

190 favre retires in 3.2....

191 ha quiteman, didnt look before posting lol

192 Two weeks of hearing how a Saints Superbowl will help to "heal the wounds of Katrina" is more than I can stand.  That and the endless loop of Archie and Peyton home movies.  But at least the refs can cover the money they put on the Saints.  And once again Favre can contemplate retirement after his last throw being one of his worst.

193 "Fuck you Viqueens." Can't think of a better way to put it Quietman. That about says it all.

194 Now I don't really give a shit who wins the Superbowl, will just hope for an entertaining game.  Although, if I hear enough Katrina crap over the next 2 weeks, I'll be rooting hard for the Colts.

195 An American city was destroyed by a hurricane, and is STILL rebuilding, and so many of y'all have such ugly things to say about it. Shame on you. You have no idea of the spirit of the people who live there, and you have NO idea how much the Saints have done to help rebuild New Orleans. You think YOU'RE tired of hearing about Katrina? I still have family members who are paying a mortgage on a piece of slab where their house used to be. Quit being so ugly and show a little mercy and grace, please...

196 Yeah Refs!

Go Black and White!

197

George Bush is responsible for the Saints winning.

If he hadn't screwed up the Katrina issue the Saints would not have tried so hard to win.

198 If Katrina hadn't been politicized by the left in the ugliest, most merciless and graceless way, it wouldn't very different.  Particularly since the failure of the levies was a direct result of the inept state and local governments elected by the citizens of New Orleans, and the horrific death toll a direct result of the criminal negligence of the guy who is still their blatantly racist mayor.  Sorry.

199

JenBee, it's all good. Lassiez les bon temps roulet! Go Saints!

200 I meant it would be very different.

201 198
 I for one share your sentiment,...to a point. I'd also enjoy living on the gulf coast in an historically democrat controlled utopian wonderland. I would probably be somewhat discouraged by the fact it is square in the middle of a VERY well known hurricane zone. Add to that the fact much of it is below sea level and the "leadership" has spent money meant to modernize the levee system buying votes to keep themselves in power and Kat gets at least predictable if not inevitable. Human tragedy is,...well,..tragic. What it isn't is an excuse to blame everybody else for the problem, resist working to contribute to resolution and then bitch some more.

202 AND they just made sure this will be the lamest superbowl ever.

203 crap,...my sockpuppet-fu is not strong

204

JenBee, I'm playing the world's smalles violin for your "I still have family members who are paying a mortgage on a piece of slab where their house used to be."  Perhaps they didn't insure their home?

Let's see what we have here....an American city NOT destroyed by hurricane failure, but by levee breach.  A levee that the Army corps of engineers said needed reinforcing.  The federal government gave money to be dedicated to fixing the levees.  Money that was squandered by the Democrat political machine down there.  the money was gone and nothing got fixed.

I have to ask myself.  Would I live in a city that is almost entirely below sea level, yet surrounded by water, and NOT have flood insurance????

Socially liberal me would never deign to tell your family they couldn't live there, but fiscally conservative me don't think it's my problem nor my responsiblilty to pay endlessly for corruption and stupidity of others.

205 Pass interference call with little or no contact and a ball thrown ten yards too far down field - clearly uncatchable.  Automatic first down and that, sports fans, is all she wrote.  Very, very bad call.

Minnesota didn't deserve to win with FIVE turnovers - including two in the red zone.

Not a well-played game.  Thank God I didn't care which team won.

206 sorry UGLY, didn't see your post.

207 sorry UGLY, didn't see your post.

You said it better.

208 OneEyedJack...

WOW.

209 sorry UGLY, didn't see your post.

You said it better.
 
plus this way you get the WOW and I just,.....well,....dip

210

JenBee, don't listen to them.  They obviously haven't got a clue about New Orleans and its many wonderful people.  All they can think about are the thugs the news kept showing in the aftermath of Katrina.  And maybe they don't understand that the maximum amount of flood insurance often wasn't enough to cover the property damage done by the storm.  Even if you and I are the only ones celebrating the Saints' victory here at AOSHQ, let's enjoy it.  They're probably Patriots fans.

211

I'll take 100 Landrieus, and 100 Nagins, before I will take one Al Franken. Yes, it is too much to expect that every election goes the way I'd prefer. And it is too much to expect that locals who are dealing with intractable, entrenched political machines will be able to throw it off with ease. Southern Lousiana is an historic basketcase.

But usually they only hurt themselves, and God help 'em. In the end they got crossed up in the path of the inevitable hurricane that overwhelmed them, one every observer of southern Louisiana saw coming, and the results were completely unsurprising. Note: the press corps are not in the realm of the informed, ironically. They are clueless and the whole fiasco came as a rude shock to them.

But, never at any time did southern Louisiana do anything but elect a sorry, race gaming mayor, like so many urban centers. Never did they do anything but elect another Landrieu, whose family was pedigreed to an extent in southern Louisiana political history. A Kennedy effect, to a lesser degree - liberal dynasty.

Louisiana did not send a Marxist-minded president a supermajority in Congress, and in the hands of Al Franken, a known charlatan whose asshole factor is visible from low earth orbit. No, Louisiana did not insult and endanger this nation in this fashion.

Minnesota did. And we should be thankful Minnesota's team lost tonight. And, despite the bad blood over Katrina and how shamelessly it was played against us, we should take wry comfort that a big part of why the New Orleans Saints have come back from disaster is a running back named BUSH.

212 OneEyedJack, pray you never have to file a homeowners claim in a major regional disaster. If they gotta pay more than a few dozen claims in a region, you'll likely find that your policy isn't worth the paper it's printed on.

213 The Vikings were butterfinger bumblers all game.  Plenty of blame to go around there.  They would have gone to the Show if they'd been able to control their ball.

Favre really blew it last play of the 4th quarter though.  It was the Vikings game to loose up until the very end... which they did.

It was really almost like the Vikings offense collectively choked.  

Good on the Saints with their first appearance EVAH coming up in the Super Bowl.  Best of luck to them... because I don't think Manning is gonna choke for them.

214

JenBee, Polly,

You ain't the only ones around here that were pulling for the Saints.

215 All they can think about are the thugs the news kept showing in the aftermath of Katrina. I missed anybody mentioning the murderous looters.
And maybe they don't understand that the maximum amount of flood insurance often wasn't enough to cover the property damage done by the storm. Most of what i saw were crapshacks typical of democrat controlled inner cities worth less than most working peoples automobiles. pretty weak point.
Even if you and I are the only ones celebrating the Saints' victory here at AOSHQ, let's enjoy it.  They're probably Patriots fans. Shark jump. You are far from the only ones here enjoying a well deserved victory, merely the only ones attempting to connect it to an avoidable human disaster that was and continues to be an avoidable anchor around the neck of the rest of the nation.

 

216

Missisippi got hit by Katrina.  FYNQ. 

and 215 is full of shit.

217

Whatever.  Disaster can happen anywhere, but living in a fishbowl surrounded by water held back by unsound levees isn't one of them.  That is called predictable.  I live where tornado's are a nine month threat, but so far, so good.

I would not live on the side of a mountain in california, due to the wildfire containment policies of the environuts.  If the fire doesn't get you, the mudslides will.  Wait a minute....I guess I would make sure I had adequate insurance before I would contemplate living there.  Part of the cost of living for a particular area, no?

I also wouldn't live on a major faultline, or on an Atlantic coastline, or within the first levee of a major river......not without being personally financially responsible.  Too tough to figure out?

218

Epic Favre Fail.  Poor bastard will relive that throw a lot.  He should not be alone tonight. 

219

#219 Not Quite

Little known fact, Baton Rouge was beat to hell by Gustav. Ya'd never know it by watching the national news. They don't pay attention to folks fixin' stuff for themselves. Same scenario with Katrina and Mississippi.

220 Dipping in Favre's tears tonight.

221 and 215 is full of shit.

In my experience ('94 Northidge quake), the insurance was very helpful.  Of course, it only covered what we paid it to cover, but we were in far better shape than the idiots who live here in the quake zone and don't bother to carry it.

222 They don't pay attention to folks fixin' stuff for themselves. Same scenario with Katrina and Mississippi.

 Of course not, that would draw attention to the real America,..the one they despise.

223

On Katrina notes:

Immediately when Katrina hit a crapton of Bubbas, in their old pickup trucks with 200,000+ miles on the them no less, mobilized to cut their way into New Orleans, because that's what you had to do. Downed trees, crap all over the road, etc. They got to New Orleans in 15 or so hours. Amazing stuff. Many of them totally unpaid, just doing what they felt called to do.

They didn't stop there, either. They turned up in Mississippi.

Of course when they got there, coming in behind them on the roads they cleared, the government mobilizers began organizing relief efforts, and here is the problem. At the end of the day the most heroic set of rescuers were the military, and the Louisiana Fish and Wildlife Service (again, largely a bunch of dudes out there in old pickup trucks doing heroic things).

The critique was that Bush couldn't coordinate the federal response, but we had two problems. One, the federal response is quite dependent on the local governments and the local governments had essentially collapsed. Two, the amazing lethargy of large bureaucracies. Both these factors put Bush at a huge disadvantage because the press corps got down there, saw the governmental dysfunction first hand, and thought that must be Bush's fault when in fact it is an institutional problem. Bush was President of the United States, couldn't he wave his magic wand?

Now,

how is that magic wand working in Haiti?

Huh?

How is that magic wand doing?

100,000 dead vs. 1,000 dead.

How is that magic wand working?

I pray that the bubbas out there driving the old pickup trucks don't say, "Fuck it. Remember Katrina." the next time one of these things happen.

224 How is that magic wand working?

 If by "magic" you mean military, and by "wand" you mean occupation,..then i'd say you imperialist pigs are git'n er done.

225

Bingo Modgi.

The media hordes were all in NO for that storm, looking for more human tradjedy. Well, it took a turn for the worse [to them] and put the "dirty side" of the storm too far west in Baton Rouge to make a proper sob story. What a damned shame when one can take care of themselves and those around them to boot. No story there.

226 Might also call attention to the fact that the Federal bucks were split evenly between Louisiana & Mississippi, despite something like 75% of the folks effected by Katrina being in Louisiana.

227 Oh, yawn. Bitch about the officiating. Bitch about Favre taking a beating. Bitch about the media overplaying whatever sob story they can (as if any of us not in the national media have any control of that). That's pretty fucking weak.

In the meantime- those of us who both are New Orleanians and football fans would rather talk about the fact that the Saints are finally good.

So hey- don't let me stop you, One Eyed Jack and others. My family took care of our own business and didn't look to the feds for help. So come tell me to take care of my own shit. Come on and do it.

You want to talk about how corrupt Orleans Parish is? Tell me about it- I fucking lived it, asswipe. None of us who've lived it have any illusions about it. I fucking worked for Ray Nagin. You think I'm not acutely aware of it?

As far as living there goes- hey, I live in DFW now because that's where my wife's gig is, and there are definitely good reasons extraneous to that that we're not there. Again, you hear about the assholes who couldn't be bothered to take care of their own business. So how about the remainder who did take care of their own business? Come tell me some shit about them now. Come on and tell me.

Pursuant to the thugs we shipped out- particularly to Houston- what can I say? Bottom line- there's been a lot of bitching on this thread about politicizing a football game. So now that you've ventilated your spleen about shit that nobody on this thread has any control over- do you mind desperately if we enjoy a victory in a great football game? Would that be entirely too much to ask?

228 As far as living there goes- hey, I live in DFW now because that's where my wife's gig is
 so, what does he do?

229

#226 Cowboy

Thus the difference between Katrina And Gustav. Two different cities, two different means of action, or inaction as it were.

230 231  Modgi, that was totally uncalled for.

And, tmi3rd, sincere congrats on your win.  I know how exciting it is for all Saints fans and I have a number of friends who will be over the moon with this.  The rest of us are just not looking forward to the completely unnecessary bleating of the sports and other media about Katrina.

231 Not Quite, yeah, what do I know? After all, I just live here and have friends & family who were bent over a barrel by insurance companies claiming that obvious wind damage was caused by flooding.

232

At least you quit putting your name after your posts, so there is that.

 

233

Damn,

I've become the thing that I most wanted to avoid. A frickin' storm sob story about the Saints! Crap. Between hurricanes and earthquakes, this bowl is gonna be damn near impossible to watch.

234 Geaux Saints! 

Yeah, I'm sick to death of the Katrina crap, but Drew is a great guy and an outstanding QB.  The Super Bowl will be sweet.  I lived in Indiana for 7 years AND I got to watch Drew play at Purdue.  I'll be rooting for him, but either way, I'll be happy. 

235 231  Modgi, that was totally uncalled for.
 Really? uncalled for? he comes on a football thread and talks about,....football?,..yeah well there is that.

236 I understand being sick of the media coverage (although the Favre shit is ten times worse), but I think it's laughable that anyone who claims to be a football fan isn't happy that the two best teams will face each other this year. 

237

#230 tmi3rd

NO and DFW? Been there done that. I figure the only place I can go to learn new [old] forms of corruption is Cooke County Ill.

238

A game the fans of both teams will be talking about for years to come.  Lots of blame to go around on the Vikes side by players and coaches. The game probably would have been won if they hadn't gotten cute with the confusing offensive looks and ended up with the procedure penalty for 12 men in the huddle that took them out of Longwell's range.  Then again, 11 years ago they were in the same situation with a kicker who hadn't missed all year.......  

As for cowboy's anger about Franken. it would be best to aim it at those who ae really culpable rather than every Vikings fan.  After all, I am a fan and I haven't lived in that state in 30 years. I am talking about people like ACORN,  SEIU, the corrupt Secretrary of State who mangled the recount and most particularly those 15% or so of the Minnesota electorate who voted for the Independence party candidate.   

How much fraud was there?  My mother, then in the late stages of dementia, managed to cast a vote from her nursing home.  I never changed her voter registration to there when we sold her house. She didn't do it herself. She didn't know what day of the week it was mich less that an election was being held.  

239 Without a doubt, shrew_tamer... my favorite quote on corruption comes from my sister's mother-in-law- "...but there's no corruption in New York."

Wow.

240

#239 Y-not

The great thing is I can tune out until the big game. I am very happy for the Saints. Honestly, I never thought it was going to happen (at least while I shared a semi-common zip code with 'em). So all bullshit aside GO SAINTS!

241 NC Mountain Girl (and every other Vikings fan on this thread),

Hats off over a truly great game. This one was a classic, and the Vikings are a great team and will remain a great team, Favre or no Favre. I'm proud to carry out another New Orleans tradition of buying the visiting team's fans a round of drinks (even if it is up here in DFW) over the next couple of days.

Favre is one tough mutha fighting off what looked like a nearly broken ankle, and you guys damn near won despite the mistakes. As has been said repeatedly on the Times-Picayune's website (the New Orleans paper), hold your heads high. We've lost so damn many of these close games that the Saints fans I'm with are still in shock.

Hugs from the Who Dats- no kidding.

242

#242 tmi3rd

"...but there's no corruption in New York."

 

That hurts my brain. A whole hell of a lot. You ever seen that movie "Scanners"?

243 Shrew_tamer,

That was about the same response I had. It took me a second to realize she wasn't kidding.

244 <strong>WHO DAT SAY THEY GONNA BEAT DEM SAINTS WHO DAT!</strong><strong>WHO DAT SAY THEY GONNA BEAT DEM SAINTS WHO DAT!</strong><strong>WHO DAT SAY THEY GONNA BEAT DEM SAINTS WHO DAT!</strong><strong>WHO DAT SAY THEY GONNA BEAT DEM SAINTS WHO DAT!</strong><strong>WHO DAT SAY THEY GONNA BEAT DEM SAINTS WHO DAT!</strong><strong>WHO DAT SAY THEY GONNA BEAT DEM SAINTS WHO DAT!</strong><strong>WHO DAT SAY THEY GONNA BEAT DEM SAINTS WHO DAT!</strong>

245

#245 tmi3rd

There are only two (2) responses to such a statement as that.

1) A polite laugh, followed with an understanding knod [finger knod and double cheesy mouth click optional]

2) Full on verbal assualt! [with facts included]

It really depends on the setting, I supppose. Probably not good for a wedding reception.

246

What a great great Game! Who Dat!

Who Dat Say They Gonna Beat Dem Saints Who Dat!

Who Dat Say They Gonna Beat Dem Saints Who Dat!

Who Dat Say They Gonna Beat Dem Saints Who Dat!

Who Dat Say They Gonna Beat Dem Saints Who Dat!

247 Am I the only one who can hear the peals of harsh laughter coming from Wisconsin as Brett Favre's career comes to an end the same way it would have two seasons ago? Ot is it that I'm a crushed Vikings fan, with another 10 years in the wilderness in front of him, giving in to his cynicism?

248

I'm from Dallas, but the first football team I played on was the Spring Valley Vikings, complete with purple and gold. So I was a Viking fan and a Cowboy fan, and these were the days of Fran Tarkenton. Now, those were football games back then, when you could barely see the field because of the snow.

I was there in the stands one day when the Dallas Cowboys knocked the Minnesota Vikings out of the Superbowl hunt. That day in Texas Stadium a Viking fan had fashioned and put on a snowman suit, and somebody in the seat behind him had brought an improvised space-heater (winters in Big D can be surprisingly cold sometimes). The snowman suit caught on fire and the fellow burned to death in a tragedy that enveloped the Cowboy victory that day, and it struck me passionately. It seemed wrong that the Cowboys won that day, given the enormity of the Minnesota fan's tragedy. The Cowobys went on to contend for the Superbowl that year, I think, losing to the Pittsburgh Steelers. If any good thing can come of it, I thought at the time, may at least the Minnesota Vikings have great success in the future, in honor of this fan's memory.

So, here's to you, Minnesota Vikings fans, for a good run and a great year. I still have that hope that the Vikings will have times of greatness. But, for the love of God Himself, get your act together. Stunts like Al Franken are not cute, they do not reflect positively on the quirky independence of the Minnesota voter. Get serious, because these are serious times.

Don't give me that shit with Al Franken. Who can respect that?

Meanwhile, lassiez les bon temps roulet!

 

249

#250 Schreiber

What you're actually hearing, and try to follow me here, is every sports commenpotator have to scrap what they've pre-written in advance of a 40 year old Q-back going to the Bowl. Me thinks.

250 I've been a Saints fan for 35 years.  They absolutely sucked tonight.  Vikings outplayed them in every way (except critical turnovers).  How bout them 3rd down conversions?  Favre is a local boy, and it really broke my heart to see his season end on another interception.  For all the pounding he took, he never seemed rattled.  One of the all time greats.

Yes Katrina sucked for NO, but it sucked even more for the MS Gulf coast and Chalmette (Plaquamines Parish).  They actually took the hit from the storm surge, yet you didn't really here them bitching and moaning the way NO residents did.  50+ billion dollars later NO is still a shithole.

Even tonight's teh suck Saints should be able to beat the Colts.

251

#253 deadman

read # 222

252

Even tonight's teh suck Saints should be able to beat the Colts.

Not sure of that.  I think what you're going to end up with is both team's defenses playing their offense with some minor differences.  The Saints do have more of a running game than the Colts.  The Colts have an onfield offensive coordinator.  They are both pretty much high scoring passing offenses with multiple threats at receiver.  Its not just going to be shut down their number 1 and 2 options and you'll be good to go.  Hell that's what the Jets did against the Colts.

So can the Saints use their running game to stay on the field longer to score more than the Colts?  Or will Peyton have the defense's number by the second quarter and proceed to chew them up?  I don't know but I don't think you're right because the Colts aren't going to have the turnovers the Vikings did.  It will be a good game I think.

253 AHHH.  43 Years in the wilderness is over.  I am so happy.

BTW, I've come to loathe Farve as a prima donna who has to be a hero when he really should not try.  He cost them that game.

254 To all you motherfuckers bitching about being tired about hearing about Katrina, I sure hope nothing ever bad happens to where you live. Youre tired of it? Try living it bitches. I flew in helicopters over my fucking destroyed city seeing shit most of you cant even dream of...doing food and water drops. Couldnt even get to my house until 2 weeks after the storm. I lost most of my belongings and a large part of my fucking house, so dont tell me about being tired of hearing about it.  I had insurance and pulled myself up and rebuilt here because its my home. Ive been a Saints fan for most of my 40 years on this earth, and if you dont like it, SUCK IT dick bags.

255 Why doesn't the NFL enact a fair overtime rule? Sudden-death, in a sport where offense and defense are seperated, makes no sense.

256 Yeah, yeah, Katrina, whatever. Minnesota gets winter EVERY FUCKING YEAR.

257 Re: Haiti.

A week from now, 10,000 Haitians will be wearing Minnesota Vikings, 2009 NFC Champs and New York Jets, 2009 AFC Champs clothing items.

258

Had Minnesota won, one advantage would've been the fact that Minnesota is a state. But it's Indianapolis and New Orleans, so we get to see countless pregame-show segments that start off with "A tale of two cities." Why do they all think that's clever?

259 yes,you are all right. chi hair iron are precious possession for not only women but men also. you may have a try make everyone in your family fashionable.

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