1 "Greenwald is such a quintessentially anti-American, pseudo-pacifist, pro-terrorist, self-hating Jewish liberal that that he essentially constitutes a living cliche."

That's gonna leave a mark.

2
Stall reform?

More like cause Obama to push it through.

3
Make no mistake, Obama jumped into his term with both feet. If we learned anything from Obama it's that he does not care about the will of the people.

4
Obama is to social justice what Bush was to Iraq.

5 We should be relieved that Obama is an absolutely awful partner with his congressional majority. Had he half the skills he thinks he has, we would be hurtling over the cliff already.

6 Will the iPhone work after the NORKS light off a nuke in the atmosphere?

7 Michael Steele is wrong about making Afghanistan a partisan issue. I know this blog covered this thoroughly, but I hear there is still talk about replacing him... with Sarah Palin. I think that would be a good move.

8
speaking of baseball...

I heard that MLB is actually considering moving the All Star Game from AZ.

9

We should be relieved that Obama is an absolutely awful partner with his congressional majority. Had he half the skills he thinks he has, we would be hurtling over the cliff already.

Yeah. Our saving grace is that between the slobbering press and Obama believing them, he campaigned and got elected before he had anywhere near the experience and savvy to handle the presidency.

10 Shoulda gone Android, Dave.

11 Dump a little Valu-rite in your coffee, and start your day off like you mean it.

Shot of Valu-rite, some Benedictine and kirsch over ice with milk.

12 I hear there is still talk about replacing him... with Sarah Palin. I think that would be a good move.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at July 10, 2010 10:02 AM (mHQ7T)

I think that would be the worst move she could make.  She's much more effective outside the beltway.  Something happens to people that go there as conservatives...they end up Dem lite.

13 Dump a little Valu-rite in your coffee, and start your day off like you mean it

Valu-rite?  Hell no, real men drink Jagger for breakfast, think I'll have another.

14

"Try a little tenderness"

Many versions, including Otis Redding's

15 Wow, the pilot story is really cool.  Both went to service academies, they aren't stupid that's for sure!

16 "She may get woolly, young girls they do get woolly/Because they're under stress/Yes"

17 Vidal-Naquet once spoke of Holocaust denier Robert Faurisson as a “paper Eichmann.” Here we have merely a paper Greenwald. He is more clown than monster, and more a product of vanity and neurosis than anything that could be described as evil.

That was like watching a samurai take out a suicide bomber.

18 Personally, I'm going to go with a clairvoyent octopus over a psychic parrot, any day.

19 I think that would be the worst move she could make.  She's much more effective outside the beltway.

I totally agree. She should continue doing what she is doing now.

20

Speaking of Androids and baseball and trying to move the All Star Game from AZ, I woke up this morning to an email on my HTC Driod Eris from Sheriff Joe (the real one in AZ) regarding La Raza putting together a movement to move the game from Phoenix, along with a link to sign a petition to stop "The Race" from doing so.  You might be of a mind to sign such a petition, so here's the link:

http://tinyurl.com/2648uxa

 

21 I thought it was weary, not woolly?

22 Valu-rite?  Hell no, real men drink Jagger for breakfast, think I'll have another.

You mean Creomulsion for breakfast?

23

Short concise analysis: Glennwald likes getting boned by Arab boys in Brazil, so he's happy to throw his folks into the ovens.

24

Yup. Weary.

25

Excellent TexasJew.

 

You win a thunderstorm today.  Well done sir!

26 #23

When it's frozen it tastes great!  The logo is actually a logo of some old Bavarian knights or something, I am a little fuzzy right now.

http://tinyurl.com/nfaoar

27

I think that would be the worst move she could make.  She's much more effective outside the beltway.  Something happens to people that go there as conservatives...they end up Dem lite.

Posted by: Tami at July 10, 2010 10:07 AM (VuLos)

It depends on why they went to DC. The people who live two different lives, one among their constituents and another within the beltway, only one is a lie. We have seen enough of Sarah Palin to know who she is.

If conservatives seem to think she is best baking cookies, making phone calls and endorsing candidates, then give her an office and the golden Rolodex and see what she can do for the movement. Any responsibility entrusted in her by the establishment burnishes her own credentials.

28

I tried some Valu-Rite in my coffee this morning.

It ate the glaze off the inside of the cup.

29 Considering the fact that Palin is pretty successful as a kingmaker doing just what she's doing, and has a best-selling book and a gig at Fox -- and she's doing all this while living in her beloved Alaska -- she can afford to bide her time and consider her next move.

30 Dave - where did you order your iPhone from?  2.7 days?

The Apple store has a 3 week wait.

31 Who has a mammoth pair?

32 I drank Jagger for breakfast......

33 "I heard that MLB is actually considering moving the All Star Game from AZ."

I'm sure they're "considering" it, as any business would, but it won't happen.  Baseball's audience is definitely slanted toward the pro-Arizona side of the immigration issue, although not as much as one might expect.  Here's a great article and graph about the political leanings of sports fans.

34

My head hurts.  I was just reading some comments over at a somewhat lefty-leaning sci-fi website about how Howard Zinn's writings were pro-American. 

Howard-f*cking-Zinn. 

The same guy who basically blamed the USA for everything that's wrong with the world.  How anyone could think he's pro-America, I just don't know.

Ugh.

35 The comments on the Greenwald skewering are unbelievable. The nazis come crawling out of their holes to protect their own.

And TexasJew? You are being too kind to Greenwald. He'll stoke the ovens if his "progressive" masters tell him to.

36 #32
Anna Chapman?


Try these: http://tinyurl.com/2w2ba4v

37 County Fair starts today.  Gotta have the lamb at the sheep barn by noon.  So the lamb decides to come down with the shits.......

38 Anna Chapman?


Try these: http://tinyurl.com/2w2ba4v

That improved my mood.

39 BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA! Awesome! Latest Liberal Tea Party Wannabes Choose Name From Famous Nazi Slogan

40 That Greenwald piece has really brought out the anti-semitic commenters over there.  It's what I imagine the comments on Der Sturmer might've been like if the internet was around in the 1930s.

41 I think she's a thorn in the side of the lefties. They need a lot of thorns in their side to counter their lies.

Posted by: Downscaled Upscale at July 10, 2010 10:37 AM (IhHdM)

It just bothers me that the RNC is so useless while we have the most important midterm elections of all time upon us. Palin writes these Facebook posts, but imagine her doing something in an official capacity. I know she's enjoying her "outsider" status as leader of the rebel forces, but I would like to see her a bit more serious. I think she's obviously smart and capable.

42 39 County Fair starts today.  Gotta have the lamb at the sheep barn by noon.  So the lamb decides to come down with the shits.......

Hey if ya see any cute goats, I am still looking.

http://tinyurl.com/36hgf6t

43

@ 41

Shhhh. Never interrupt your enemy while he's making a mistake.

Also, should coffee be crunchy?

44 15 Texas Jew Man o man, the late GREAT Otis Redding. What a treasure he was and his music is. And as for Glenn Greenwald, he aspires to be Chaim Rumkowski. http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org/ghettos/rumkowski.html If there is a G-d in Heaven, Greenwald will suffer the same fate as Rumkowski.

45 @43
I agree with you, Tattoo. 

Taking over the RNC isn't necessary for Palin's 'career', but it sure would/could help the GOP get its act together.  I think she could do it for a couple of years without losing her soul to the Beltway, meanwhile she'd make connections and help ensure the GOP insiders start paying attention to what the rest of us want to see happen.

It would benefit us more than her, but that's the whole point.  Why give up on the RNC when we have someone who could change it? 

46 So the lamb decides to come down with the shits.......

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at July 10, 2010 10:45 AM (UBQGM)

Poor thing probably thought he was being led to the slaughter. He armed himself as best he could.

47

>>  Dave - where did you order your iPhone from?  2.7 days?

online upgrade at ATT.com

48 Re lamb shits, Kaopectate--pour down throat. Lasted on lamb for me thru showing (won showmanship). Two feet out of the arena, well, it lost efficacy.

49 So the folks who are touting the Droid/Android... can you tell me if there are useful apps yet?  The last I read, several months ago, they really were far behind on apps.  It's fine to tout 'open source' but if the apps aren't there, it doesn't do me any good.

I'm on Verizon and really like it (I have an older enV), especially the VZ Nav system which has bailed me out on many occasions when I get lost, but I need to go to a real smart phone.  Mr. Y-not has a G3 iPhone.  Many nice apps, but I'm not crazy about the camera interface and he has no voice-over nav system (I want something that talks, not just a mapping function). 

Anyone out there have a Verizon-based smart phone they love? 

50 I know she's enjoying her "outsider" status as leader of the rebel forces, but I would like to see her a bit more serious. I think that at least some of the "draft Palin for RNC head" stuff is coming from the establishment RNC drones. Several reasons: A form of laziness: They know how unpopular they are in the conservative world, but they don't want to do the work to reform the RNC. They look at her as the lipstick on the pig that makes them popular again without lifting a finger to fix things. Destroy the insurgent: Establishment RNC types are extremely uncomfortable with middle America and the Tea Party. The plan would be to co-opt Palin and basically throw the mid-term elections while she's in charge. Palin and the Tea Party gets blamed, RNC goes on as before.

51 Lockheed Martin advertising in Canada. (It looks like we'll be ordering 65 F-35As in mid-July as we now have a relatively-conservative Conservative government that cares about national defence.) Jobs for Texas.

52 Anyone out there have a Verizon-based smart phone they love? 

Posted by: Y-not at July 10, 2010 11:05 AM (HDip

My daughter has a Droid and LOVES it.

53 The problem with the national RNC is that in period between the conventions it is virtually powerless. The rules are set at the convention and can not be changed until the next convention.

The RNC Chairman has very little power and for the most part is prohibited from doing some things, like intervening in a contested primary.

Meanwhile someone like Sarah can come in and endorse the Candidate that she thinks is the most conservative. That is what happened here in SC when she came in an endorsed Haley. Haley went from last place to first place solely on the support of that endorsement. 

The RNC chair would have been prohibited from endorsing Haley.

Nope, I like Sarah right where she is now.
 

54 "Palin and the Tea Party gets blamed, RNC goes on as before."

Seriously is it just me or does the Republican party exist only to squash conservative ideas with moderates to ensure the success of the progressive agenda?

55 Tami,  Do you know if VZ Nav runs on it?  I can't see why it wouldn't, but still...

56 @45 Think of them as chocolate chips..... But the corn.....I can't help you with.

57 Yes, I'm pretty sure she uses the Nav. all the time.  I'll double check with her though to be sure.

58 Anyone out there have a Verizon-based smart phone they love?

I used to have a Verizon phone but the coverage in my area was really shitty. I dropped it for AT&T.

59 It just bothers me that the RNC is so useless while we have the most important midterm elections of all time upon us.


The RNC is useless as tits on a bull, and has been for YEARS.   It's still the same old Tom Delay/ Abramoff outfit that caused Republicans to lose Congress.  It needs a purge, and fast.

60 Vic,
What type of sway do the major donors to the RNC hold over the tone of the organization?  In most non-profits (I realize that's not this but still) the major donors influence things -- they don't "run" things, but they do wind up establishing priorities and influencing key decisions. 
If Palin were RNC chair, wouldn't she bring a new set of conservative donors into the RNC fold and wouldn't that shift the RNC's focus?
We keep talking about the RNC like it's a problem, which implies it does hold power, but then throw up our hands like it can't change.  Why not have faith that Palin could change it from the inside?
After all, if she re-enters government at some point, she would give up her outsider status, as all of our elected officials do.  Being an outsider is helpful, but ultimately we need to change the insiders.

61 @54 So far, Droid is probably your best bet. However, it doesn't have the same number and quality of apps. Give it another year or so and maybe... But, it depends on what you want... Fart and Vuvuzelas apps, yes. Hobo Hunter 2010 Locating App, sadly no.

62 Amazing summer up here on the Edwards Plateau.
The tomatoes and peppers are the best ever.
We Planted a "Yellow Submarine" tomato vine.
The ones you pay $4.00 a qt at the store. We're getting a pint twice a day now.
Cherokee Purples and Beefsteaks round out the lot.
Banana Peppers and Bell Peppers are amazingly tender this year due to all the rain.
It's a shame I can't eat bread and Bacon anymore.

63 What type of sway do the major donors to the RNC hold over the tone of the organization?

From what I have seen not much. As I said the Party rules are established at the national convention and that controls until the next national convention.

Personally I think it is set up to assure that the NE Rockefeller wing maintains control. Look at the long term trends. 2 conservative nominations in a 100 years is not a good track record. 

64 Posted by: naturalfake at July 10, 2010 11:14 AM

The iPhone apps that Mr. Y-not has that I think are cool are things like ones that have to do with hiking/trailmarking, a parking spot locator, a music identifier (really cool... it "listens" to whatever song is playing, say at a restaurant or something, and finds it at iTunes), some other fun nature ones (such as a Petersen's Guide to bird calls)).  We're not into games so much. 

I also like that his iPhone docks into our iPod speakers and that he has his iTunes integrated.  I freely admit we're Mac people, so I want to like the iPhone, but his camera takes a lot of out of focus (across the plane of the image) pix and it doesn't have a talking Nav system.  Plus, his call coverage doesn't seem as good as mine (in SoCal).

I'm going to hold off until we live in Utah for a couple of months, but I'm leaning toward sticking with Verizon (if the reception is good).   Maybe I'll consider an iPhone if Verizon ever picks it up. 

65 It's a shame I can't eat bread and Bacon anymore.
Posted by: Beto at July 10, 2010 11:16 AM

Are you on a diet to control your blood sugar and/or cholesterol? 

We were able to incorporate really lean bacon into Mr. Y-not's diet and still bring his blood sugar down.  Bread is harder, as you know, but Jewish rye is a good option as are the multi-grain breads. 

66 From what I have seen not much. As I said the Party rules are established at the national convention and that controls until the next national convention.

Sooo frustrating. 

67 a music identifier (really cool... it "listens" to whatever song is playing, say at a restaurant or something, and finds it at iTunes)

Mr. Evil Genius has that. I believe it's called Shazam. We're with T-Mobile.

68 #51

I have a Droid and it is really really cool.  I have 160 apps on it.  There are 1,000s of apps.

Wait two weeks the new Droid X is coming out.  It is smoking!

http://tinyurl.com/2d3hv3n

69   64 Amazing summer up here on the Edwards Plateau.
The tomatoes and peppers are the best ever.
We Planted a "Yellow Submarine" tomato vine.
The ones you pay $4.00 a qt at the store. We're getting a pint twice a day now.
Cherokee Purples and Beefsteaks round out the lot.
Banana Peppers and Bell Peppers are amazingly tender this year due to all the rain.
It's a shame I can't eat bread and Bacon anymore.

Posted by: Beto at July 10, 2010 11:16 AM (H+LJc)

 

ok, jealous.       picked 24 tomatoes last week, all with blossom end rot. trashed them all.   serious lack of rain for the central east coast.  this morning?? one red one, and you'd think I'd be grateful...except the birds had been eating it....one side totally gone.      I want a tomato pie, in the worst way, tomato sandwich, anything tomato.  

  

70 These are all interesting takes on the RNC. It seems pretty obvious that it has been infiltrated and compromised, but I like Y-not's optimism that it can be reformed and put to use by conservatives. Progressives did this with the DNC, after all. I think conservative ideas have merit beyond being mere resistance. But I also agree this "draft Palin" theme is coming from insiders. Palin did a bang-up job at the Oil and Gas Commission, though, so I feel like she is up to the task. Just wondering how others see this working out.

71 all with blossom end rot.

I have one tomato plant...first one I've ever had.  Early girl tomatoes or something like that.  Lots of tomatoes but every single one has a rotten bottom.  What the hell is that?  I haven't been able to eat one yet.

72 49

>> Dave - where did you order your iPhone from? 2.7 days?

online upgrade at ATT.com

Posted by: Dave in Texas at July 10, 2010 11:00 AM (Wh0W+)

Just ordered my upgrade from them... 7-14 business days before it will ship.  Oh well.

73

*Mike Ditka

OK   I'd love that.   

74 Posted by: Kemp at July 10, 2010 11:26 AM

Are you on Verizon? 

Yeah, I guess I'll wind up going Droid. 

75 Palin did a bang-up job at the Oil and Gas Commission, though, so I feel like she is up to the task. Just wondering how others see this working out.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at July 10, 2010 11:27 AM (mHQ7T)

Yeah, but remember what she had to do to get things changed there?

76 #51

A better review of Droid X.  Get one!  HD video, 8 mg camera, 16 g card!

http://tinyurl.com/2dl5rfy

77 Glenngreenwald.  I don't always agree with everything he says, but sometimes I do.

78 Yeah, I guess I'll wind up going Droid. 

Posted by: Y-not at July 10, 2010 11:30 AM (HDip

Daughter confirms 'talking navigation system' on Droid.

79

Posted by: Tami at July 10, 2010 11:28 AM (VuLos)

technically, it's the inability of  the plant to absorb calcium....usually due to a lack of rain,      it's not supposed to happen to peppers , but it did in my garden this year.   

80 Thx, Kemp and Tami, for the info re Droid.  Looks good. 

81

Posted by: Tami at July 10, 2010 11:28 AM (VuLos)

technically, it's the inability of  the plant to absorb calcium....usually due to a lack of rain,      it's not supposed to happen to peppers , but it did in my garden this year.  

that's blossom end rot.   same thing that's got mine.   

82 Well, we've certainly had a lack of rain but I've been hand watering it.  I guess I'll just go with fried green tomatoes.

83 Yeah, but remember what she had to do to get things changed there?

Also, that was the local AK Republican Party, not national. They are entirely different.

Also I would like to point out that you can not make comparisons between the Democratic Party and the Republican Party.

The Democrat Party is much more centralized and controlled from the National level.  And that is not a good thing either.  That is how they pushed Obama through despite the fact that party wide, Hillary was more popular. (Note: It was the "super delegates" that got Obama the nod)

84 #83

Yes navigation on the Driod is amazing.  It will even give you a street view as you drive. 

I have several GPS, the Droid is better than any of them.  Driod Navigation works in 11 European countries also.  The voice directions are great.

85 Oh, Verizon has the Driod on sale now, $149 for TWO! 

I'd wait for the Droid X.

The only downside of the Driod is the keyboard, which is not as nice as Blackberry.  The new droid does not have a keyboard.

86 "I think it would be a mistake to dump Michael Steele now, 4 months before the elections, because that would become the story rather than issues."

You know, Michael Steele himself reliably keeps making himself the issue every month or so. It's one thing after another with him, and this last gaffe put him in dangerous water. The one area in which conservatives distinguish themselves above all others (because no one is talking about social issues but Mitch Daniels and Certain Fucking Doomabee) is national security. The GOP has lost on fiscal conservatism, and Steele is doing nothing to counter the Dem talking point that the economic crash was the result of Bush policies. I mean, Obama is actually talking like we haven't been in the longest economic recession since WWII and unemployment isn't on the rise... the GOP is quiet. Where is Michael Steele? I know, there is probably a website. Those of you who are donors get emails. But he spends more time explaining his stupid comments than he does promoting the GOP (and forget conservatism!)

87 OT: More reason to hate soccer.

Story at Fox:

Brazilian Soccer Player's Ex-Mistress Missing, Police Say She Was Strangled, Fed to Dogs

http://tinyurl.com/2g7lrvk

88 Anyone out there have a Verizon-based smart phone they love? 

Posted by: Y-not at July 10, 2010 11:05 AM (HDip

I have a Tmobile HTC HD2.

It rocks.

89

>> Just ordered my upgrade from them... 7-14 business days before it will ship.  Oh well.

I got those same messages when I ordered mine.

I think they're catching up.

90 (Note: It was the "super delegates" that got Obama the nod)

Posted by: Vic at July 10, 2010 11:36 AM (/jbAw)

Obama was never shy about taking the top prize. He has been groomed for it. That he was some kind of dark horse is patent BS. He found a loop hole and exploited it. Hillary got complacent, because she thought all her friends from her days in the White House would have her back. Obama knew this, too. He played her. Obama gamed the Dem primaries using the caucus system and his community organizing experience.

91 But he spends more time explaining his stupid comments than he does promoting the GOP (and forget conservatism!)

True, but do you remember any other past chairmen talking up the issues? I don't.

Supposedly it is not their job to discuss issues except where questioned at press related shows like Meet The Press. 

I agree, he does need to go but after the 2010 elections and BEFORE wen start gearing up for the 2012 election.

92 Driod X even has an FM radio tuner in it! So you can listen to your local station!

93 Actually iOS4 is available for all iPhones and iPod Touches except first generation if i remember right, although not all features will be available on older gens.

94 "He found a loop hole and exploited it."

Just want to clarify here. He himself didn't find this loophole, any more than he knew to throw Alice Palmer off the ballot. His campaign knew.

95 Obama gamed the Dem primaries using the caucus system and his community organizing experience.

Yeah, the caucuses were the only thing he won. Those and the super delegates. If we had caucuses I am sure that the Paulbots would flood them and win them just like Obama did.  

The fix was in for Obama and you have to know that Hillary and Bill knew that a few weeks into the election.

96 do you remember any other past chairmen talking up the issues?

I don't even remember any other past chairmen.  Bad publicity isn't always better than no publicity.

97

Since I'm not only behind the loop but completely out of it regarding such phones, I have a couple of questions.

What is the price you guys pay for your phones, and how much for contracts? And how long are you tied into a contract?

Thanks...

98 Those and the super delegates.

The "party of the little guy" lets the elites override their votes.  Lol.

99 All of that just makes you think about utterly corrupt our election process is.  We had a Presidential election falling out of the primaries in which neither candidate had the support of the majority of the voters in their respective Parties.

Think about the significance of that. 

100 "True, but do you remember any other past chairmen talking up the issues? I don't."

These aren't the issues we should be discussing. If he wants to talk about how small minority representation is in the GOP, he should be talking about what actually happened during the CRM, whether the GOP ever deviated from being the party of Lincoln, what we can do to attract minorities who believe in conservative principles and how those can improve any American lives. Not agreeing with some talking head that the RNC convention looked like a klan rally. Just an example. He's very bad at his job, and now he has dragged the war in Afghanistan into it.

101 I agree that he needs to go but we can wait until after November.

102 The fix was in for Obama and you have to know that Hillary and Bill knew that a few weeks into the election.

Posted by: Vic at July 10, 2010 11:47 AM (/jbAw)

I think that's why Hillary cried in New Hampshire.

103

It's a lovely day in Central Texas, and by that I mean overcast and cool, which ain't normal for early July round these parts.

 

PROOF!!!  Its proof, I tell you, of global warming!  Excelsior!

104 @67 Coverage can really be the name of the game wrt smart phones. Verizon has better national coverage than AT&T. There's no doubt about that. Mrs naturalfake and I have been talking about that very fact since our current Verizon contract is ending soon. Droid X looks good and Google does seem committed to it's steel cage deathmatch with Apple. If you live in or near a big city, it may be close. With Apple still having the edge. In the country or a smaller city, Verizon is more than likely the carrier you want.

105 "It just bothers me that the RNC is so useless while we have the most important midterm elections of all time upon us" Hey come on, Dan Riehl's gonna have a meeting with them about their website. Got it covered.

106 Look how many of her friends stabbed her in the back. Patti Solis Doyle, the Kennedy family, Greg Craig, Obama himself -- she once stumped for him. Super Tuesday was Hillary's Ides of March.

107

real men drink Jagger for breakfast

 

Ewww.  That's my Dad you're talking about.

108 Now release my second chakra!

109 I've been using iOS 4.0 for 2 or 3 months, and I haven't noticed any "fast scroll." What's the trick?

110 What's this shit about NASA and Muslims? I've been gone..

111

>> What's the trick?

 

scroll fast, it exponentiates  (that was on my 3GS, I don't know if that works on a 3)

112

92 OT: More reason to hate soccer.

 

Dude that's like blaming the weather for Rosie O'Donnell being the stupid fat ugly whore she is.  Don't hate the game, hate the player.

113 That Glenn Greenwald is too femme for me.

114 iPhone sneak peek review:

- Voice signal loss if phone held in left hand
- Data signal loss if phone held in left hand
- Frequent accidental hang ups due to faulty proximity sensor  causing cheek to press end call button
- Pseudo multitasking
- Very choppy video calling (assuming you can connect in the first place)
- AT&T ETF of $325
- Locked in to iTunes (and their recent account hacks)
- Secret "help" message etched in each phone from suicidal Foxconn employees
- more to come....

115 >>scroll fast, it exponentiates It does? I'm viewing this thread on my 3GS and my non-4.0 iPad, and they both seem to be handling it the same way (it speeds up in 3.2 too). I don't know. Maybe I'm a moron. *remembers where he is* Aw, fuck. All I know is that the first thing I ever thought when I first opened Safari in 1.0 on day one was, "If I can touch the top to instantly scroll to the top, why the %^}#^£€¥ can't I do something to instantly scroll to the bottom?" I'm still waiting.

116 #115

Another Obama appointee that speaks with a Negro dialect made a fool of his selfs. 

Da Huh.

http://tinyurl.com/2v4dcuw

117 Oh well, back to the wooden ships and semaphore.

ABC Carpet and Home has semaphore pillows on sale right now. I like them and think a friend of mine should get them and the Union Jack drapes.

118 Hey now, don't compare that scrunt to me!

119 Damn you Dave, I can't have any valurite yet!  I'm still on a Battle Watch right now!

120

I love the story about the married pilots. Thanks for the smile.

As for the story about the tankers, I'm so friggin annoyed at the first paragraph that I had difficulty focusing on the story.

Boeing and archrival European Aeronautic Defence and Space both formally entered the competition to build the next generation of aerial refueling tankers for the Air Force by Friday, with each submitting thousands of pages in highly technical proposals.

Really? By Friday? By Friday they are going to build the next generation of tankers?

I frequently hear such language in television news broadcasts, but it annoys the hell out of me to read it in an article which, I assume, was first reviewed by an editor.

Granted, I make plenty of mistakes on my own, but I don't have the benefit of an editor.

No wonder the English are so friggin annoyed with us.

121 All I know is that the first thing I ever thought when I first opened Safari in 1.0 on day one was, "If I can touch the top to instantly scroll to the top, why the %^}#^£€¥ can't I do something to instantly scroll to the bottom?"

Haha, same here, this is what i use

122 What's this shit about NASA and Muslims? I've been gone..

Posted by: 48%er at July 10, 2010 12:02 PM (OThQg)

123 One Nation is committed to ensuring that ... have access to their abundant supplies of energy, without the price impacts of OPEC, foreign exchange, excise taxes & flawed Kyoto accords.
... One Nation rejects Globalisation, Mass Immigration, the Destruction of our industries, the export of our jobs ... One Nation will ensure that our identity and national sovereignty are not undermined. ... One Nation will take a tough line on all crime. Distribution and use of drugs are a criminal offence and will be treated as such, free needles and other forms of encouragement will cease. We will have truth in sentencing and equality in justice. We will ensure its the criminal that suffers not the victims, and people have the right to defend their property, and to be safe in their homes or on the street, especially our seniors. One Nation believes in restoring the authority of the family and that responsible parents should not have their authority eroded by frivolous legislation or UN treaties. We recognise that the best support we can give to any family is support that keeps the marriage and family unit intact.

One Nation is a far-right and nationalist political party in Australia.

The irony

124 *taps a challenge coin from the 1/7 (it was given to me, I didn't serve in the armed forces of the United States) on the table for CDR M and the rest of the bar.

125

Posted by: Beto at July 10, 2010 11:16 AM (H+LJc)

How's the peach crop around Stonewall this year?

126 Whoops.

As I was about to say... gives new meaning to the term "barking moonbats." Obama promised the Muzzies he's do better than Scare Force One. Palestine can have the moon now.

127

51...

Hang in there. It is rumored that AT&T's exclusinve hold on the I-Phone expires this year. Verizon should have it by the end of the year.

128 Y-Not,
I have Irritable Bowel Syndrome or Celiac
Nothing but the blandest of the bland from here on out.
No wheat or sugar or corn or corn syrup or dairy or legumes
Pork gives me fits. Many fishes too.
Rice, Potatoes, Veggies, Chicken, Beef is all I can eat without getting sick.
No GMO or cheap stuff

129 All right. Have a great afternoon, everyone.

130 Android is garbage as it stands - the app store is all low-quality porn and copyright infringement, not all apps work with all handsets, and the general user experience is like UNIX from 1992 (as opposed to, say, modern KDE).  About all I can say for it that's positive is that it's less clunky than Windows Mobile 6.

131

jmflynny, they are modifying past proposals, and have been working on the revisions for over a year.  In the fed contracting space, this was "protested" by Boeing, both parties were getting responses ready even before they submitted their original proposals almost 2 years ago.

132 131
The trees that made it through the freezes are producing some of the best peaches ever.

133 oh, I see your point, sorry.  You were picking at the reportage.. my bad.

134 Thanks, Dave, you summarized it quite nicely.

135 115 What's this shit about NASA and Muslims? I've been gone..

Posted by: 48%er at July 10, 2010 12:02 PM (OThQg)

There is a new space vehicle being planned called  the Air Mecca.  It will help shuttle all the muslim conscripts from the States to Mecca for the Haj.

136

Houston, We Have A Fatwa.......

137 #136

Apple trolls. 

Don't feed Apple, they are commies with a CLOSED system. 

Andriod phones WILL win. 

Why?

It's open, aka free, software.  You don't have to get Google's permission to write or sell a program.  Try doing that over at Job's concentration camp.

By the way, try navigating to anywhere on that great system on the I phone.

What you have to PAY extra to get that.

Sucker.

138 Strangely, this thread feels like a tech war chat on Engadget between Apple Fanboys and everyone else.

139

I have a totally off-topic question which, for me, is pretty standard.

Fox is talking about "smell tests" for oil contamination in seafood which, frankly, doesn't seem so scientific.

So, to eat seafood or not to eat seafood? That is the question.

140

Uncle Joe makes a funny

141 @143

If Google wants their name associated with shitty apps and a fragmented OS which provides a pale imitation of the iPhone experience, I say give them more shovels and let them keep digging.

142 By the way, try navigating to anywhere on that great system on the I phone.

What do you mean? Google Maps came with mine and it works great.

143 Kemp, I've run Linux exclusively on my desktop at home since 1995.  That is the root of my disappointment with Android: Palm has proven you can make a Linux phone that's just as good a user experience as Apple's (and better in some ways - the card-based multitasking remains the best in the business).

Android is like everything Google touches.  The engineering's admirable, but it's obvious why every designer they've ever tried to hire has quit in disgust.  (Can anyone explain yet what Wave is good for?)  And the App Store desparately needs some kind of adult supervision.  You can still side-load apps that aren't in the store, so I see no problem with them clamping down on it more.  I bought an EVO 4G because I loved the hardware.  I still do, but the OS and software are definitely letting it down.

144 jmflynny at July 10, 2010 12:18 PM (NHK5s)

This weekend my Mom was trying to find enough bread to make toast for the crowd and said, "Your father can eat the english muffin in the freezer." My niece's response was, "Why does he have to eat it in the freezer?" (Considering it was ninety two degrees in the house the rest of us thought he was getting the better part of the deal.)

145 @134 Posted by: Beto at July 10, 2010 12:22 PM

Wow, that blows.  Really, everything I've read and heard about IBS is so miserable.  The good news is that it seems as though the food industry (or natural foods places and whatnot) are catching up -- I think I've noticed more and more foods that are touted as being ok for folks with that syndrome. 

'Hope you have found a network of folks to talk with and get some tips/help. 

146

One Nation is a far-right and nationalist political party in Australia.

Huh?

Far right?

Since I don't know how old you are, I'll assume you weren't around when these ideas were mainstream American policies.

The radical leftists are still a minority. Only their constant exposure by a sympathetic media make them seem otherwise.

In other words, if I'm standing on shore and your paddling away from me, who's doing the moving? Don't be fooled by the MFM.

147 If the Russians truly loved us, they'd let us keep Anna Chapman in return for Lindsey Lohan. Lohan would be a perfect fit in Moscow, anyway. They wouldn'd mind her drinking at all.

148 Can't believe we have over 150 comments on this thread about Dave's phone and no one has reminded him not to carry it on the rocks near the ocean.

149 I am a Mac person.  I find the anti-Mac stuff rather amusing... as if Bill Gates and the planet-load of Red Chinese hackers that envelop the world of "PCs" are somehow better than a few hippies in NorCal.  Gates is a much bigger threat to small-government types than Jobs is. 

Nevertheless, based on my husband's iPhone (G3) experience -- and my attempts to use it -- I would not get an iPhone yet.  Maybe if it winds up on Verizon.  Maybe.

When we are lost without a nav system, my 4 year old enV running VZ Naz bails us out every time and more quickly than his iPhone Google Maps.  And, it talks, so I don't need to watch it.   Plus, the search function is superior, basically as good as the Garmin. 

150 I'm as smart as the vice-president!

151

your = you're

Damned analog spel cheqr.

152 Miss me yet??

153 102

Since I'm not only behind the loop but completely out of it regarding such phones, I have a couple of questions.

What is the price you guys pay for your phones, and how much for contracts? And how long are you tied into a contract?

HH,

I think my Verizon enV contract is something like $80 a month.  I never use the web browsing, but I do text and send photos via data transfer (or whatever).  I think Mr. Y-not's AT&T iPhone G3 contract is about the same price.  He is in a line of work where he uses the phone and email features a lot, plus the web stuff etc, and he has never come close to using his minutes. 

I think the standard thing for contracts is one year and then you can get out of it... but I'm not sure.  I've been on my Verizon contract for about 4 years; Mr. Y-not switched to AT&T a couple of years ago for work. 

We were looking for a place to live in Utah last week and I have to say I felt a little hamstrung by not have a real smartphone.  I had to rely on voice or text to communicate with Mr. Y-not while he was tied up and it was clunky. 

154 Posted by: Flesh Color Crayon at July 10, 2010 12:50 PM

Raaaaaaaaaaaaaacist!

155

I was just a kid, well, sort of, when Clinton was POTUS, and I didn't give a shit about politics. So let me put a few questions to some of you old timers.

Obama and the other Democrats are always blaming our present economy on Bush, right?

Well, I have a vague recollection that, at the end of the Clinton presidency, there was a lot of shit going on then, too, what with Enron and other shennanigans, right? My question is that didn't Bush inherit a lot of shit that occurred when Clinton was getting blow jobs from Monica, instead of meeting his responsibilities as POTUS? And if that is the case, hasn't Obama inherited shit that actually began under the Clinton Administration, not under the Bush Administration? 

I suspect that is the case, because  Democrats have a long history of  never accepting responsibility for the consequences of their screw-ups, and of always blaming somebody else. I suspect, also, that, by shirking their responsibilities,  the Clintion Administration is in large part to blame for this fucked up economy that we have today. But I could be wrong on this issue.

If I'm right, though, Republican candidates for offices should be going on the offensive and raising and hammering home that critical point in their campaigns, instead of playing defense to that liar, Obama, and instead of allowing that empty suit to get away with his disingenuos accusations about Republicans.

156

Y-not, I'm on Verizon with the Droid Eris and absolutely love it.  The Incredible is the newer HTC upgrade on the Eris and I have several friends who are ex-IPhone users with the Incredible who rave about switching.

I like the IPhone, but the biggest factor for me was the network.  I'm sitting in our weekend cabin right now on the Mogollon Rim in AZ, and an IPhone would be nothing but a paperweight right now because ATT doesn't cover.  I've never dropped a call up her with Verizon.

You dock your phone into speakers with a phone dock?  How old fashioned.  I have a Motorola EQ7 JBL speaker, that I picked up on Ebay for $40 streaming my Pandora radio app off my Eris through bluetooth.  It streams all my music that I used to carry on my Ipod, Pandora, or music from several other awsome Android apps.  Shazam is the app that listens to music and then tells you what song it is...Android has that.

VZ Navigator?  That crappy old Verizon navigation that you have to pay monthly for?  Are you kidding me?  Droid uses Google Navigation, which is free and amazing...voice GPS Navigation that is unmatched.

The Android app store, in my opinion, has everything useful that Apple has, plus some goodies Apple doesn't.  Any popular app on IPhone quickly finds its way onto Android.  But their open sourcing and links to Google mean rapid innovation and apps like Google Goggles, where you can point the phone at a book or piece of art or whatever and within seconds your phone is telling you what book it is and linking you to places to review it or buy it, or what that piece of art is named and who the artist is and all the info you'd ever want to know about that artist.  My kids love Google Sky, which is like Google Earth flipped to the rest of the galaxy, so they can pinpoint constellations and planets and even satelites in the night sky up here at night.

IPhone's are great tech, but I'd encourage you to go to your Verizon store and check out the HTC Incredible or the Motorola Droid X that is about to come out.  I think you'll be surprised.  There is a reason Android is growing in market share at a pace that has Apple scared to death.

157 Oh, and in terms of the price, frankly, I don't really worry about the hardware price.  I figure it's amortized over enough time that it's inconsequential.  My enV is a great little camera (although it is a smaller chip than the newer phones have, but it has a better camera interface than the iPhone - I like real buttons and the lens cap, I'm old school).  So a phone/camera combo for even a couple of hundred bucks seems like a great deal to me. 

158 160 Posted by: Flesh Color Crayon at July 10, 2010 12:50 PM

Raaaaaaaaaaaaaacist!

Posted by: Eric Holder at July 10, 2010 12:52 PM (imD7p)

Au contraire!!  He didn't say what color flesh!  That is your own hidden racism projecting itself Mr. Holder!

159 Droid uses Google Navigation, which is free and amazing...voice GPS Navigation that is unmatched.

This is the first I've heard of a talking Nav system via Google.  That's great.  We haven't been able to find one for Mr. Y-not's iPhone. 

160 Posted by: MostlyRight in AZ at July 10, 2010 12:53 PM

Thx. 

As I said, I suspect that I'll stick with Verizon.  We're moving to Utah Valley and the home we're renting is somewhat rural, so I suspect we'll find that the AT&T coverage is spotty.  Mr. Y-not did have problems even up in Provo/Orem with email last week... but AT&T has been having issues (or is it the iPhone?) so I don't know if that's why. 

161

Posted by: just ruminating here at July 10, 2010 12:52 PM (sYrWB)

The Force is strong with this one.

Look up the Community Redevelopment Act, circa 1974. That one piece of shit bill is, IMHO, entirely responsible for the mortgage meltdown that conveniently occured just prior to the '08 presidential election. It also has Cliton's grimy little pawprints on it too.

And yeah, all presidents inherit their problems from their predecessors along with the good stuff. The Vapid One®, however, has raised Bush Derangement Syndrome to an art form, as did the MFM for eight years.

You tend to go with what works, as they used to say in the business sector, back when we had one, that is.

162 Not that it applies to you, Y-Not, but it's because Mac-heads are so smug. That's why the MSM identifies with the cool, anti-establishment hipsters that Mac advertises itself as and promotes the shit out of Mac products for free over the airwaves just like with a certain president.

163

Hmmm....I'm thinking the tune in Strangelove is "Younger than Springtime", from South Pacific.

 

164 Let me make this perfectly clear. My team was on this from day one. And now we're beginning to see the results of our plan. The first of many rigs is leaving the Gulf for foreign waters.

165 I think abolishing the flesh color crayon was just a gay plot to force little kids to color people pink.

166 This is the first I've heard of a talking Nav system via Google.  That's great.  We haven't been able to find one for Mr. Y-not's iPhone. 

Posted by: Y-not at July 10, 2010 12:55 PM (HDip

Sorry Y-Not.  I should have mentioned that is what my daughter told me too.

167 168 Not that it applies to you, Y-Not, but it's because Mac-heads are so smug.

LOL.  Yeah, I know what you mean.  But I think in both "worlds" there are the vocal, obnoxious 5% and then the rest of us who are just users.  Case in point, every IT-person/network administrator I worked with in academic science and on the administrative side who was an anti-Mac "PC person" was (1) obnoxious as hell and (2) pretty incompetent (or at least not as good as they thought they were).  They were also control freaks.  Whereas, in general the UNIX administrators were (1) competent with Macs and (2) helpful/client-centered. 

168 and oh yes:  the Dr. Strangelove credits cite "Glen Beck" as a cast member.

169

 

Here come the frivolous lawsuits!

The lawyers and anti-oil activists are already scaring people into thinking they're gonna be sick if they're any where near the oil spill. For instance, they're saying fishermen who get splashed with droplets of oil when they raise their nets will get rashes and poisoned.

If you live in Louisiana or Alabama or Florida and you breath, you're gonna get sick. So you better Lipshitz, McGroin, & Lipshitz, now!

 

170 @174: wasn't Beck the one in the wheelchair?

171 and oh yes:  the Dr. Strangelove credits cite "Glen Beck" as a cast member.
LOL.

And I agree, Y-Not. (And I don't own a cell phone etc., by the way.)

172 Anyone seen my flesh colored crayon?

173

 

NOW let me axe you sensible peeps something.

Let's say you work on a oil rig. Are you not getting exposed to crude all day long? Are you not breathing and touching crude all day long?

Do you expect to drop dead? Should you sue?

Let's say you're a mechanic at Fred's Oldsmobile in Sheboygan.

A little oil gonna kill you? Of friggin course not.

174 As I said, I suspect that I'll stick with Verizon.  We're moving to Utah Valley and the home we're renting is somewhat rural, so I suspect we'll find that the AT&T coverage is spotty.  Mr. Y-not did have problems even up in Provo/Orem with email last week... but AT&T has been having issues (or is it the iPhone?) so I don't know if that's why. 

Posted by: Y-not at July 10, 2010 12:58 PM (HDip ]

You're correct about the coverage.  Verizon is the way to go in Utah.  AT&T's coverage here is horrible.

175 I need my dick squoze.

176

No problem Y-not.  The FREE Google Navigation is really pretty great.  We first tried it in May on a trip from our home in Phoenix to a vacation condo in Carlsbad.  Plugged the phone in to our car radio and began streaming our music.  Switched to the navigation app and said the address of the condo into Google Navigation and it started right up.  Every time we had a turn or merge or whatever coming up, the music cut off and a woman's voice told us what to do.  It worked flawlessly right to the parking lot.  My Garmin now sits next to my Ipod in the drawer next to my bed.

Coverage in a rural area out here in the West could be your biggest factor in your decision.  I don't know about Verizon's coverage in Utah, but it's by far the superior carrier in AZ for coverage in our rural areas.  Because of this I've never had an IPhone, though I'm a tech nerd so have played with them an awful lot and know the capabilities and apps.  I am also a bit of a business user, so the Android phones had to win me away from the Blackberry.  I couldn't be happier that I made the switch.

Enjoy Utah, it's a beautiful place!

177 (And I don't own a cell phone etc., by the way.)
Posted by: andycanuck at July 10, 2010 01:11 PM

We held out for a while, but after September 11th and then following a friend's messy divorce, we decided to get them.  Still have a landline, but I'm guessing we'll dump that when we move. 

Our first phones were great little LG flip phones.  Really tough - dropped many many times and great phones (nothing else). 

178 The Brit who killed the three people the few weeks ago and was tracked down and surrounded by the cops yesterday killed himself. See? Gun control does work!

179 Would someone please yank my crank?

180 Anyone seen my flesh colored crayon?
I left it in the humidor.

181 @180, 182

Thanks, guys (?)! 

conscious, we did rent the place in Springville, aka "Art City."  It's near Hobble Creek Canyon, which I gather is pretty.  We want to learn golf and I gather there's a course there, too. 

'Saw lots of quail throughout our house-hunting (rental) trip last week.  So cute, but soooo delicious!  Tasty tasty quail! 

182

Y-not, you can slap my peter if you want.

183

#175 @ 1:09 - Saw on cable news yesterday that, so far, 4 out of 5 of the claims for reimbursement from B-P are illigitimate claims from the same people (welfare recipient types) who have been on the dole for their entire lives.

 You can't tell me that the Obama Administation didn't see thaat coming. It's all part of their wealth redistribution scam. That multi-billion-dollar reimbusement by B-P was a sly, planned rip-off from the outset. Just like the healthcare legislation is, also.

184 Dave, was I right about the Strangelove tune?

185 @115 What's this shit about NASA and Muslims? I've been gone. More or less, it's about this. .....more or less....

186 Obama is a street hustler, just like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are. Remember when the latter two street hustlers extorted mega bucks from private corporations in what essentially amounted to a protection racket? Well, I'm inclined to suspect that Obama extorted money from B-P with a similar arrangement. The people who suffered the most from that accident in the gulf will get pennies (if anything at all), and the hustlers will profit the most from that scam by Obama to create wealth redistribution..

187

 

heh, just for shits&giggles I might submit a claim, too

188

The tune is "Try a Little Tenderness".  Which is the joke in the scene there,

 

TexasJew got it, way up yonder.

189 There isn't any competition between AT&T, Verizon and Comcast. Each one is assigned an area of the country, and the other two aren't allowed to operate in those assigned areas. We can thank the Democrats for that, too. They call it "fair" capitalism.

190

175 @ 1:09 - Saw on cable news yesterday that, so far, 4 out of 5 of the claims

I knew that shit would happen right off the bat. I remember reading in the papers some years back that there was a bus crash in NY City and some asshole got procecuted for filing a false claim for injuries. He jumped on the bus after the crash! That's quick thinking. You gotta get up early in the morning to beat those NY City assholes, anything for a buck.

191 conscious, we did rent the place in Springville, aka "Art City."  It's near Hobble Creek Canyon, which I gather is pretty.  We want to learn golf and I gather there's a course there, too. 

'Saw lots of quail throughout our house-hunting (rental) trip last week.  So cute, but soooo delicious!  Tasty tasty quail! 

Posted by: Y-not at July 10, 2010 01:17 PM (HDip

That area around Hobble Creek is beautiful.  I golfed the Hobble Creek couse a few times about 10 years ago.  It's a tough course being in the bottom of the canyon.  The fairways are narrow and there is a lot of water.  Needless to say, there are probably plenty of my golf balls still laying in the bottom of the creek or out in the thick trees.

192 Regarding SB 1070, Kristin Powers just tried to flesh out the left's insane idea of "pre-emption" by stating,

"You cannot pass laws that affect foreign persons if you are a state."

LOL. 

That is the legal argument that left is depending upon.  The fact that all of these people aren't immediately laughed out of their jobs just shows how low this country has truly sunk. ...

Irreparable damage.

193 Y-Not,
Saw yesterday you were moving to Utah and just wanted to joining c but i, etc in welcoming you.  Hope you enjoy it out here.

194

If I'm right, though, Republican candidates for offices should be going on the offensive and raising and hammering home that critical point in their campaigns, instead of playing defense to that liar, Obama, and instead of allowing that empty suit to get away with his disingenuos accusations about Republicans.

Posted by: just ruminating here at July 10, 2010 12:52 PM (sYrWB)

Waiting until the election is too little, too late. This is why you need an RNC, NRSC, etc. You need organizations that will put out a controlled and unified message. Howard Dean deserves credit for doing that for the Democrats. They have an unfair advantage, because they control so much media. But the Republican party has resources that it is not using right now, and it is putting them at a disadvantage going into the midterms.

195 IllTemperedCur (July 10, 2010 11:06 AM),

Succinct and spot on. Your moron card should be revoked for the rest of the thread for asserting such insight.

196 199 Y-Not,
Saw yesterday you were moving to Utah and just wanted to joining c but i, etc in welcoming you.  Hope you enjoy it out here

Thanks!  'Looking forward to the move.  We should be there full-time by the end of August. 

It sounds like we'll have enough folks for a meet up. 

197 @197
That area around Hobble Creek is beautiful.  I golfed the Hobble Creek couse a few times about 10 years ago. 

Cool!  One of the things I've been nagging urging Mr. Y-not to do is to learn golf, so I think he's finally convinced that it would be good for his work and also a nice way to get some fresh air. 

I gather that Weir, although Canadian, is the PGA golfer "from" Utah.  Someone told me he lives there full-time.  I'm a Lefty fan (I also like Cink and Kim), but I'm going to try to start following Weir too. 

We've been told that in terms of NFL the teams people root for are the Broncos, the 49ers (ugh, they're pretty baaad), the Colts, and the Cardinals.  We already follow the Colts from our Indiana days, but will start to track the Broncos. 

198 #127 Oooh. Thanks koopy!

199 Cool story about the pilots, glaring material inaccuracies notwithstanding.
(They've known each other since high school, and had been married for a year when the refueling mission took place.)
You know us lawyers...STICKLERS for accuracy.

200 Dave....it's a taco, not burrito.....only Californyuns and New Mexico hippies call 'em burritos here. Otherwise, carry on with the exceptional work.

201 Last