January 29, 2010

Scott Brown, Barack Obama Are Blood Relatives, Say Geneaologists
— Ace

I sort of don't even think this is worth noting, as these stories keep popping up, and we now know that virtually everyone is related. (Well, everyone, really, if you go back far enough; but virtually everyone is related just within a thousand years.)

Still. 10th cousins.

Genealogists said Friday the Democratic president and the newly elected Massachusetts senator, Scott Brown, are 10th cousins.

The New England Historic Genealogical Society said Obama's mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, and Brown's mother, Judith Ann Rugg, both descend from Richard Singletary of Haverhill, Mass.

He died in 1687 at, for the time, the unusually old age of 102.

We didn't land on Plymouth Rock, Plymouth Rock landed... Oh wait, we did land on Plymouth Rock.

Also related: Hillary Rodham Clinton and George Stephanopolous. The article doesn't say how closely.

In case Allah doesn't know an angle for this story, here you go: Alpha Male, Plymouth Rock Era.

Thanks to AHFF Geoff.

Posted by: Ace at 08:42 AM | Comments (60)
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1 This sounds like a feeble attempt at race-baiting to me.

Posted by: Gravity Dick at January 29, 2010 08:44 AM (U0oFg)

2 Scott Brown is from Kenya too?

Posted by: lorien1973 at January 29, 2010 08:45 AM (IhQuA)

3 I saw this story and said "more BS from idiots".

Posted by: Vic at January 29, 2010 08:45 AM (QrA9E)

4 He died in 1687 at, for the time, the unusually old age of 102.

Uh...that's considered pretty old at this time too.

Posted by: Tami at January 29, 2010 08:46 AM (VuLos)

5
Yep and Obama's dog was kidnapped by aliens.

Also: Kirtstie Alley has AIDS, and her AIDS have cancer.

Posted by: This is lolboner at January 29, 2010 08:48 AM (jVldi)

6 I'd like to see the estimated number, but I suspect that anything over 12th or 13th cousin encompasses just about everyone in the country. 

Posted by: rdbrewer at January 29, 2010 08:49 AM (oGCP/)

7 I bet even back ten generations were all little related to Charles Manson too. second, third, or forth cousins.

Posted by: joebafett at January 29, 2010 08:50 AM (oFGf3)

8 While I was reading this post, Ace, I forgot that you were white.

Posted by: Chris Matthews at January 29, 2010 08:50 AM (oGCP/)

9 Let me be clear; at no time did Richard Singletary ever drive a truck.

Posted by: Professor Obama at January 29, 2010 08:51 AM (GwPRU)

10 This sounds like a feeble attempt at race-baiting to me.

They were looking for slave-owning white peoples in Brown's ancestry (nevermind the slave-owning white peoples in Obama's ancestry).  I bet that's going to be a big thing come the general election.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at January 29, 2010 08:52 AM (mR7mk)

11 O/T:  Now that I've had time to study Obama and Holder, I think I now prefer the dark-skinned negroes who talk funny.  Just sayin'.

Posted by: Harry Reid at January 29, 2010 08:53 AM (oGCP/)

12 Hillary Rodham Clinton and George Stephanopolous are related in that they both used to suck Bill Clinton's dick. George still does on occasion.

Posted by: Usful Ijit at January 29, 2010 08:54 AM (ySEBp)

13   4 He died in 1687 at, for the time, the unusually old age of 102.

Uh...that's considered pretty old at this time too. --------------- Not sure what either of you are talking about.
 

Posted by: Methuselah at January 29, 2010 08:57 AM (U0oFg)

14 No Scott, I am your father.

Posted by: B. Hussein Obama, Failed American President at January 29, 2010 08:58 AM (QKKT0)

15 If you can trace your ancestry to one of the early New England families, ten or eleven generations back, you can pretty much guarantee you're related to anyone else who can make the same claim. There was a pretty limited gene pool there at that time - and they were prolific. 

Posted by: Highlander at January 29, 2010 08:58 AM (ZPnw0)

16

Well, for the love of all that is Holy in this life and the next, at least these "researchers" didn't find that one of Scott Brown's relatives owned one of Barak Obama's relatives at some point in the past.  That's what they were looking for, though, the douches, you just know they were.

Unfortunately for the Race-Baiting-American Community, not a lot of slaves came to America from Eastern Africa, where Kenya is (though both pathetically and hilariously, a lot of members of the Race-Baiting American Community like to dress up in East African Garb and speak Swahili, an Eastern African language, during their retarded confabs), so not much chance that they'd find what they were looking for.

How funny if they accidently discovered that one of The Cock With Ears' distant WHITE relatives once owned one of Scott Brown's distant NOT-SO-WHITE relatives (if he had one such).  I guess Chris Matthews might forget The Cock With Ears was black for awhile longer, then.  Until he got out his Commander in Chief Dildo, again, that is.

Posted by: Sharkman at January 29, 2010 08:59 AM (Zj8fM)

17 [cue "Dueling Banjos']

Posted by: Rich Fader at January 29, 2010 08:59 AM (lgYLR)

18 ... and we now know that virtually everyone is related. Yeah. Wait. What?

Posted by: West Virginia at January 29, 2010 08:59 AM (SPSOE)

19

>> Well, everyone, really

Everyone?? Even the girl from the Kraft macaroni & cheese commercials and the lead singer for Gwar?

Posted by: FireHorse at January 29, 2010 09:02 AM (cQyWA)

20 Did anybody caught GMA this morning when host George Stephanopoulos was informed, that based on a mapping of his DNA, he is most likely a maternal cousin of Hiliary Clinton ?

Posted by: Neo at January 29, 2010 09:10 AM (tE8FB)

21 Come join me, Scott. There's plenty of room here under the bus.

Posted by: Barack Obama's White Grandmother at January 29, 2010 09:11 AM (B7ys6)

22 If your ancestor was in America in the early 1600s, there's a non-trivial chance that he might have been pwned too. Indentured servitude and all that.

Posted by: Zimriel at January 29, 2010 09:13 AM (9Sbz+)

23 I knew it!  I knew it!  It hit me right in the face when I was listening to Scott give his acceptance speech on election night.  There he was, light-skinned with no hint of any Negro dialect.

Posted by: Harry Reid at January 29, 2010 09:14 AM (Vu6sl)

24

I'm not following.  Obama's gynocologist think's Oblunder might be relate to Scott Brown.? 

Make more sense coming from Brown's proctologists' scatological analysis.

Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at January 29, 2010 09:17 AM (ucq49)

25

don't forget what my brother Billy said when some African American preacher named Carter said that he must be related to my family:

"Well, we all left a ****** back in the woodshed somewhere!"

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at January 29, 2010 09:18 AM (T1boi)

26

Who cares about this silliness?

What I want to know is how many degrees of separation are there between Scott Brown and Kevin Bacon?

Posted by: wiserbud at January 29, 2010 09:21 AM (IHbof)

27 You don't get to pick your family so I can't blame Brown.

Posted by: toby928 at January 29, 2010 09:23 AM (PD1tk)

28

They were looking for slave-owning white peoples in Brown's ancestry (nevermind the slave-owning white peoples in Obama's ancestry). 

FIFY

Posted by: Cincinnatus at January 29, 2010 09:23 AM (L/qBT)

29
Heh, makes me think of the scene in True Romance where Dennis Hopper is talking with Christopher Walken about the Sicilians and their genealogy.

Posted by: dan-O at January 29, 2010 09:27 AM (+9Rf8)

30 Well, they say that Brown is the New Black!

Posted by: runningrn at January 29, 2010 09:30 AM (CfmlF)

31 I'm still waiting for my cut of the Julius Caesar estate booty.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 29, 2010 09:30 AM (rwfwZ)

32 Well, they say that Brown is the New Black Thread winner!

Posted by: Thread Winner Judge at January 29, 2010 09:34 AM (bN5ZU)

33 Everybody is everybody else's cousin.

Not metaphorically, not figuratively, literally.

And not that far back in the past either.  Everyone who has any European blood of any degreee probably has a common ancestor in the late medieval period.

Posted by: DelD at January 29, 2010 09:34 AM (eWtdM)

34

Io, Cincy, you have nailed it.

Without even counting serfdom, a large number of white persons were slaves. John Smith, founder of Jamestown, was an escaped slave.

Obama's ancestors were on the supply side of the slavery business. We had better never hear from him on this issue.

Posted by: comatus at January 29, 2010 09:35 AM (/VEEI)

35 For an hour I forgot that Scott Brown was brown.

Posted by: Chris Matthews at January 29, 2010 09:35 AM (bN5ZU)

36 Someone a few years ago had an article pointing out that the number of one's ancestors for a given generation exceeds the total estimated population of the Earth at some point in the 10th Century.

So, you are related to everyone alive before that point who has living relatives now, and, for that matter, everyone currently alive.

So, since we are all members of the Kennedy clan now, I'm gonna have a drink.

Posted by: Gen. Sir Harry Flashman, VC at January 29, 2010 09:38 AM (XiGiD)

37 Posted by: DelD at January 29, 2010 01:34 PM

I think that links to the article I was thinking of, but apparently I didn't remember the details correctly.  Too much Valu-Rite.

Posted by: Gen. Sir Harry Flashman, VC at January 29, 2010 09:44 AM (XiGiD)

38 I remember an article a while back that virtually every westerner is related to Muhammad (founder of Islam) because one of his daughters fled to Europe after his death and married into a royal family.  With all the intermarrying they did and the sheer number of kids all the Royals had, not to mention shagging the local peasantry, the line has come to be in nearly everyones family tree. 

Posted by: John at January 29, 2010 10:41 AM (NqhL+)

39 If you go back far enough into man's earliest roots in Africa, then we're all kissing cousins.

Posted by: Agnostica at January 29, 2010 10:42 AM (gbCNS)

40 And there were white slaves too ... whom most of us are probably related to.  So Obama no doubt has ancestors that owned our ancestors as slaves (black or white).

http://fwd4.me/DUI

And if you go back ten generations, you have 1024 grandparents, not counting "inbreeding".  That's a lot of cousins.


Posted by: bill at January 29, 2010 10:42 AM (waEDp)

41 This kissing cousin's basis in fact should mean that everyone should be paying Reparations to each other.

Posted by: Agnostica at January 29, 2010 10:47 AM (gbCNS)

42 I'm pretty sure my big boobs make me related to Chris Matthews.

Posted by: pajama momma at January 29, 2010 11:21 AM (275r1)

43 I'm still waiting for my cut of the Julius Caesar estate booty. Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 29, 2010 01:30 PM (rwfwZ) And I'd like my piece of Mount Vernon, please.

Posted by: AngelEm at January 29, 2010 11:23 AM (brCzq)

44 Did this find out if Bill Clinton is related to Chelsea Clinton?

Posted by: MrCaniac at January 29, 2010 11:26 AM (Vol3D)

45 Geez, with all of this "baby daddying" going on, we know that Maury will still be on the air for many years to come.

Posted by: MrCaniac at January 29, 2010 11:28 AM (Vol3D)

46 OH yeah? Well my father and Mario Lanza went to different schools together.

Posted by: sonnyspats at January 29, 2010 11:28 AM (68tQb)

47 12 Hillary Rodham Clinton and George Stephanopolous are related in that they both used to suck Bill Clinton's dick. George still does on occasion. Posted by: Usful Ijit

I think GS used to suck Hillary's dick too.

Posted by: MrCaniac at January 29, 2010 11:30 AM (Vol3D)

48
33 DelD

Everybody is everybody else's cousin.

A couple of years ago I learned that I'm a distant relative of Ted Kennedy. Somebody gimme a drink!

Posted by: Golem14 at January 29, 2010 01:52 PM (2X8VA)

49 36

I missed your post-- must still be in shock...

Posted by: Golem14 at January 29, 2010 01:55 PM (2X8VA)

50 Or I was having a Teddy moment.

Posted by: Golem14 at January 29, 2010 01:56 PM (2X8VA)

51 So Scott Brown landed on Plymouth Rock but Plymouth Rock landed on Barack Obama. How quaint.


Posted by: eaglewingz08 at January 29, 2010 01:59 PM (dv8zz)

52 Does this mean I'm related to Christina Hendricks? I mean, not that I'd have a shot anyway, but that would totally throw a monkeywrench into things.

Posted by: Scott at January 29, 2010 02:08 PM (6JOT9)

53 Brown should sue for libel. What a smear!

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 29, 2010 05:10 PM (t4Du4)

54 If you have 50% genetic identity with your parents and siblings, 25% with your grandparents, aunts, and uncles, 12.5% with your first cousin, and so on...by the time you get to a 10th cousin you have 0.000048% genetic identity. That's a ratio of 1:2097152 If you have 3 billion base pairs, then about 1431 base pairs would be attributable to your common ancestor. By random chance alone, you're liable to have more genes in common with random people on the bus.

Posted by: Tim at January 29, 2010 06:23 PM (OTI5E)

55

First, a couple of  technical notes: 1) it's "genealogist", not "geneaologist".  2) Some of the "math" here (and probably in the various articles mentioned) is a bit hokey.  Some of it seems to presume, for example, that there are no "duplications" in a family tree - where the same person shows up in disparate (or not so disparate!) branches, as distant relatives invariably marry.  Some of it ignores that the records have only survived for some families.  Etc., etc.

But, on the whole, the story is meaningless, but a fun novelty.  Harmless, as long as nobaody actually tries to read anything into it.

But it DOES tie into another thread here relating to Obama as a sort "black symbol" (that's not how it was put).  Let us be reminded that as an American black symbol, he really stinks!  To begin with, it's more accurate to call him "biracial" (vs "black") . But - more importantly - HE IS NOT A DESCENDENT OF SLAVES.  At least not American ones, anyway (I couldn't tell you whether  any of his ancestors were slaves in Africa).

Posted by: Optimizer at January 29, 2010 07:26 PM (JC+x3)

56

To offer up my own example, I have a fair amount of my own roots worked out, and have checked vs. various top-ticket candidates for fun on occasion.  I wouldn't have been surprised to find that I was related to Obama myself, but it turned out that no common ancestors showed.

In the previous election, however, John Kerry and Howard Dean both rang up as fellow descendants of Edward Griswold, an immigrant from England to CT in the early 1600s.  In this past election, Sarah Palin showed up as being another descendant of this Griswold.  On that side, Palin is a 10th cousin once removed of mine, but she's a closer relative to John Kerry (7th cousin, 3x).

Despite Kerry's Irish surname, he was 0% Irish.  His family name was changed from a Jewish one, just a few generations back, in Austria, to help avoid persecution.  His father's parents were straight off the boat, from Austria & Hungary. His mother was a Forbes, and 100% New England WASP.

I'm also a distant relative of FDR and US Grant, both through Simon Huntington (1583-1633), and of Lady Di (who had an American gt-grandparent) through John Gager (1620-1703).  I expect such relations are common.  Sarah Palin, for example, is also a distant relative to FDR and Lady Di, but in different ways.

Posted by: Optimizer at January 29, 2010 08:33 PM (odEHq)

57 @10

"They were looking for slave-owning white peoples in Brown's ancestry (nevermind the slave-owning white peoples in Obama's ancestry).  I bet that's going to be a big thing come the general election."

That is what they do when they cannot find anything of substance to complain about.  None of us have any control over who we are descended from.  Neither is it something that has any relevance whatsoever.  Yet were they to find that he was the descendant of slave owners, they would raise holy hell over it and present it to the public as an accusation.  They do this because they are sick evil bastards with no ground for valid complaint. 

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