April 23, 2010
— Dave in Texas Petty Officer 2nd Class Jonathan Keefe, not guilty.
Keefe — one of three SEALS charged in the case — was not accused of assaulting Ahmed Hashim Abed but of failing to prevent the abuse.
Breaking story (via andylevy on Twitter)
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Posted by: Purple Avenger at April 23, 2010 10:32 AM (BifYs)
God Bless this Country, where you can be targeted by monsters and demand a fair trial. This is why we are the good guys.
God Bless these SEALs. They are heroes off the battlefield too, in this case, for not rolling over.
Posted by: Sentient Nintendo 64 at April 23, 2010 10:35 AM (dUOK+)
Posted by: joncelli at April 23, 2010 10:39 AM (RD7QR)
finally, something that EVERYONE* on this smart military blog can agree on and feel good about.
* trolls not included in any count of actual human beings
Posted by: s'moron at April 23, 2010 10:39 AM (UaxA0)
They are heroes off the battlefield too, in this case, for not rolling over.
Trained seals do roll over. Obviously these guys haven't been properly trained.
Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at April 23, 2010 10:40 AM (SCcgT)
Posted by: Fish at April 23, 2010 10:41 AM (M5t+h)
Maybey sanity has slapped a couple people on the back of the head lately.
Posted by: Don at April 23, 2010 10:42 AM (tTj19)
13 If you can receive non-judicial punishment (Article 15 or Captain's Mast) for a bloody lip, what is the punishment for restraining a prisoner with plastic ties or putting a sand bag over his head?
Posted by: Fish at April 23, 2010 02:41 PM (M5t+h)
What? I never heard a "PALOMINO" out of the guy.
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at April 23, 2010 10:44 AM (ZESU0)
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at April 23, 2010 10:45 AM (JrRME)
If the third SEAL is found not guilty, the person that has the most to lose in this situation is the Major General who recommended non-judicial punishment.
My question: Who within the Obama Administration spoke with the Pentagon and demanded the SEALS be punished? This didn't happen in a vacuum, and Gates knows the answer to the question.
Posted by: Fish at April 23, 2010 10:47 AM (M5t+h)
Posted by: Vic at April 23, 2010 10:48 AM (QrA9E)
Posted by: Just A Grunt at April 23, 2010 10:49 AM (pOC9r)
Posted by: Hrothgar at April 23, 2010 11:04 AM (VraRz)
We ask too much of these guys as it is, and then command can't get their backs?
Posted by: UGAdawg at April 23, 2010 11:07 AM (iWjP5)
John Murtha D-Asshole sent a message through psychic Miss Cleo saying these SEALS are guilty of numerous offenses and should be sentenced to hard labor for many years to atone for their crimes. Their criminal pursuits includes voting for republicans.
Posted by: Fish at April 23, 2010 11:08 AM (M5t+h)
Posted by: Fish at April 23, 2010 02:41 PM (M5t+h)
I'm all for putting the plastic bag over their heads, and securing with the plastic ties. These SEALS should never have been charged in the first place, and when they were, the brass should have immediately stepped in and cleared them.
Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Professional Debate Team at April 23, 2010 11:12 AM (erIg9)
Posted by: GuyfromNH at April 23, 2010 11:15 AM (GWXuo)
Posted by: Dr. Spank at April 23, 2010 11:17 AM (I1/U/)
Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Professional Debate Team at April 23, 2010 03:12 PM (erIg9)
When the Major General recommended non-judicial punishment, it was probably due to political pressure from the Pentagon or other sources. After the men refused the Captain's Mast and requested the Court Martial, the better course of action would have been to re-review the evidence if any, and dismiss without prejudice.
Now, it has become a public nuisance and embarrassment for the Major General, and he only wants this trial to disappear. I assume General Odierno writes his ER, and even if they are buds, this won't be a major gig but probably an annotation and that's enough to stall any future promotion.
Posted by: Fish at April 23, 2010 11:20 AM (M5t+h)
Hoo-yah! Let's see if we can go three-for-three!
Posted by: Insomniac at April 23, 2010 11:21 AM (DrWcr)
Posted by: Modo at April 23, 2010 11:29 AM (XOeQl)
FWIW, the rumor that I heard was that the Obama Administartionwanted the SEALs tried as payback for the SEALs jumping the gun and rescuing the captain of the Alabama Maersk. The administration wanted to try lawfare and get their attorneys on site, but the on-scene commander gave the SEALs the go-ahead (his right, by the way).
Obama was pissed, and wanted some payback. This was it. As I said, a rumor that I heard, FWIW.
Posted by: RPL at April 23, 2010 11:30 AM (gs3Z8)
"Petty Officer Keefe was, however, convicted of the somewhat related charge of 'Failing to Properly Avert His Eyes When PO Huertas Punched The Terrorist Douche-bag Right In His Greasy Face', a charge which carries with it the sentence of a spotless service record. PO Keefe commented at his post-trial news conference, somewhat chastened by the verdict: "I think next time I'll put the excellent training Uncle Sam has given me to good use, instead of standing there sort-of looking away, and I'll go ahead and stare the fucker in the eye and laugh at him. Then maybe I'll give him a Chuck Norris-style roundhouse kick to the nuts."
"President Obama, fresh from his speech lambasting Wall Street for the temerity to be simultaneously his biggest (non-foreign-dictator) campaign contributors and the scourge of Western Civilization, issued a statement that blamed the "obviously completely incompetent members of the so-called US Armed Services who bungled this trial so badly" for the acquittal, and promised that Rahm Emanual's new role as overseer of all military trials conducted on charges filed after January 20, 2009 would "positively guarantee that no longer will the blood-thirsty members of 'our' military get away with murder, and worse!" Admiral Mike Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, was again unavailable comment, as he was unable to talk around the Commander-in-Chief's cock."
Posted by: Sharkman at April 23, 2010 11:32 AM (Zj8fM)
This is just going to ruin Barry's weekend.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 23, 2010 11:45 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: AE at April 23, 2010 11:52 AM (kSfPT)
Unfortunately, the way elite units like the SEALs work is that once a guy is court-martialed, his career is essentially over, at least as a SEAL. They may find the guy a nice desk job pushing paper somewhere, but he won't return to his unit.
It's very sad, too, because a freaking terrorist with a bloody nose crying for his mullah was all it took to ruin three brave American servicemen whose only "crime" was in doing their job and bringing in the evildoer they were assigned to capture.
Posted by: Adjoran at April 23, 2010 11:59 AM (3hg5M)
God Speed SEALS....
i love this country... i pray that this panel finds for freedom.
to all our Boys.... head high, shoulders back... We actually do love you!
Posted by: J2 at April 23, 2010 05:07 PM (DCdSz)
Known terrorist with fat lip vs three of our best - I hope it wasn't a hard choice for the panel. Go SEALs!
Posted by: Penultimatum at April 23, 2010 07:52 PM (CIKgX)
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama mmm mmm mmm at April 25, 2010 05:38 AM (vT7rz)
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