1 You can just smell the fear...

2 and many lawmakers were apparently unaware of it when they voted

Actually, that is an interesting question.

Did Obama really screw over his allies this badly, or are they saying this because there is no way they can defend it?

Either way, I'd suggest every Republican candidate incorporate their opponent's support for this measure in their campaign ads.

3 Why, it's like those super genius level intellectuals in congress got bamboozled!!

4 What? You expect lawyers to read the fine print?

5 I think the Pelosi statement highlighted in the above post was rare honesty.Nancy and the other dems didn't know or care what was actually in the bill.They were assured it was all stufff they very much wanted and that was enough for them.

6 This 1099 crap will make my life miserable.  I don't even want to think about the extra work I will have to do if it's not repealed.

7 it was one of more than 15 revenue-raising measures in the bill — and many lawmakers were apparently unaware of it when they voted for final passage of the legislation.

That happens when you DON'T READ THE DAMN BILL!

8 Something brown and smelly is heading at high speed right at the fan.

9

Who else here has a job, or EVER had a job, where they could blow off stuff they are signing off on?

I never had one of those kinds of jobs.

10 Jim in San Diego

Ahhh, a new batch of servers for the farm!
Meh... screw cross referencing the packing list with what is actually on the pallet, I'll just sign for them.

11 @9 touché! I never had a job that I could screw up flatter than hammered dung and still get a raise, either.

12

Hey Dems, the big difference between 2010 and 1994 is this time, you've got me!

Hello?  Hello?  Testing.  Is this thing on?

13 Breitbart to release 'interesting' audio of Capitol Hill politician

http://3.ly/aZq4

14 These turds don't even write the bills. They hire folks to do it and to make it as Byzantine as possible. It took 100 years for this junk to get piled this high. Tear it all down or live as serfs. That's all there is to it.

15

Who else here has a job, or EVER had a job, where they could blow off stuff they are signing off on?

I never had one of those kinds of jobs.

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at September 12, 2010 08:54 PM (oIp16)

Yeah.. never happened to me ever.    If I would have behaved like that.. my ass would have been fired.

16 11 Jim in San Diego

Ahhh, a new batch of servers for the farm!
Meh... screw cross referencing the packing list with what is actually on the pallet, I'll just sign for them.

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at September 12, 2010 08:56 PM (ZtD0z)

Plug 'em IN!

Turn 'em on!

...and then tune out.

17 14 They don't write it,and they what's more ,they don't understand it even if they bother to read it.

18 Voting aye for a bill that one hasn't read should be an act of treason.

Maybe a lesser count of treason only requiring flogging ... but still, treason.

(think CSPAN would air a flogging or two?)

19 17 They understand one thing,it gives them more POWER.Like Bwaney Fwank said,"Give us more power to fix things".They want to run every aspect of our lives.

20 Good luck trying to put the bloated, putrid Obamacare genie back in the bottle.

21 Hate to break it to ya, but that serfdom thing is pretty much already a done deal. We are all now serfs to pay off this debt for the rest of our highly indebted lives. I for one am stinking mad over that. If you are going to take away my ability to live a reasonable life, you better expect some muthahumpin' CONSEQUENCES, you liberal turds.

22 (think CSPAN would air a flogging or two?)

Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at September 12, 2010 09:00 PM (23kaI)

Brian Lampchop objects....tepidly as always.

23

I am all for repealing this but congress does this shit all the time. Pass a bill and say this is how it will be paid for, then they start repealing the how it will be paid for parts.

Meanwhile the deficit increases billions of dollars. If they are going to repeal it they should also repeal and equal amount of so called benefits to pay for the repeal.

fuckers.

24 Shweet. 

25 It's a start.

26

Our economy is still smoldering from the trainwreck which was subprime lending pushed and endorsed by Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, HUD and FHA.  These government entities and their accomplices on Wallstreet blew up the entire world economy pushing junk loans on an unsuspecting public.  Now, the democrats led by a community organizer want to take over 1/6th of our economy with the same kind of government top down planning, social engineering and the collateral damage of distortion of markets that result in trillions in waste, fraud and abuse.  Throw Obamacare out in its entireity and start over with tort reform, insurance reform, and market driven solutions to our healthcare issues.  We need to ride the next congress like a two dollar whore to make sure they start undoing the mess created by Obama, Reid and Pelosi...Anything less may be the final freakshow for this country...

27 Everybody who voted for this bill should be made to go on record:

Did you read the offending language, or know that this reporting requirement was in the bill? Or did you not?

If you did: the fuck?

If you didn't: the fuck?

EACH. ONE. ON. RECORD.

28 The 1099 mandate is the dumbest idea ever by the geniuses in Washington.  And it won't generate anywhere near the anticipated revenue that's promised.  All it will do is make me and every other small business person in America really, really pissed off. 

The Dems and Obama better hope that it's repealed if they want to have any kind of political life left.

Bastards.

29 This bill is so long and so complicated I don't think anyone still knows what's in it.

30 For everyone who raging mad at the debt and burden this past 20 months has added to your life and the lives of at least 3 future generations, understand one thing.

With the sound of a gavel, a vote was called and the bill was passed. With the sound of a gavel, a vate can be called and the bill is DEAD.

KILL THE BILL


Oh and one other thing, IMPEACH that pretender to a non-existent throne ObowMao.

31 I apologize for the typos. It was the Vodka. It wasn't me.

32 If you are going to take away my ability to live a reasonable life, you better expect some muthahumpin' CONSEQUENCES, you liberal turds.

I've been thinking about this a lot, lately. Three years ago I had a fair amount of confidence in the financial aspects of my future. Now all bets are entirely off. All because a bunch of dimwitted Americans just had to have their hopey and changey. Thanks, fucktards.

33 Because as a small business there is nothing better the nine of us have to do than fill out 1099 forms, pay payroll and unemployment taxes weekly, and wonder if we will have to start collecting taxes on sales to 50 different states.

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This spammer must be related to Ace since he doesn't read the blog either.

35 @32 every single avenue to prosperity is being taken off the table by the Democrats. They are standing on our necks. Every stinking one of them.

36

Well, I knew it was in the damn bill, because I read it.   I didn't understand half of what was in it, because it was so convoluted, but I understood that part.   It didn't have 50 different sections of other laws and reg. attached to that part.  It was easily understood.

Effin' jerks.

 

37

They say they didn't KNOW what was i it.

How can people respect this at all, they (representatives of the people)!voted in legislation that they absolutely had no real knowledge of.. or they voted it in Knowing it was so bad they had to state they Had no knowledge of later.

38 I've lived by the rule of deferred gratification my whole life. Only bought one thing on time. Saved, scrimped and built up a decent nest egg. Now I watch as it dwindles to about half of what it was. Sickening.

39

(think CSPAN would air a flogging or two?)

Nope. Pay-per-view.

Hey, we got to reduce the deficit somehow...

40 Click on the box if you agree to the terms and conditions of this legislation.

41 Ever eat a proposed Health Care Bill? Some parts are edible.

42

Greta had the AG of SC (iirc) on the other night who said he was working on a suit against this POS bill. He made specific mention that the Dims omitted a key provision to insure it's passage. This provision didn't allow for the separate parts to be individually considered, something that most bills contain. Since this is missing from the DeathCare bill, if one part of it is struck down, the whole bill dies.

Sweet. Hope it works. We'll see...

43 First, Pelosi & Co. should be made to read every page of that effing bill live on CSPAN.  That scrunt said "oh, you have to pass it to find out what's in it" like it was some friggin' present from Santa.  Then in November, when the Radical Republican Conservatives are in the driver seat, they should make double damn sure a criminal travesty of a law like this can never be passed again.

44 ...and many lawmakers were apparently unaware of it when they voted for final passage of the legislation.

Not an excuse. If they voted for it, throw them out of office at the earliest opportunity.

45 If these lawmakers were so unaware of what was in the bill, and considering how quickly after the election this bill came up on the floor,  I have to wonder ... who the fuck wrote it?  Apparently none of the legislators wrote it and something that big would have taken a long time.  It is almost like someone from the administration just handed them a bill already written.

46 This bill is void where prohibited by Law.

47 Obama lied Democrat majority died.
will the Democrats claim they were lied to by Obama much like they claimed that Bush lied them into war?  I would not hold it against them for this election cycle.

48

Everybody who voted for this bill should be made to go on record:

Did you read the offending language, or know that this reporting requirement was in the bill? Or did you not?

 

Absolutely.  But I hope the GOP takes it one step further, and ties Obamacare not only to the individual Dems who voted for it, but to the Dem party itself.  Over and over and over...Obamacare = Dems.  Because a lot of the actual Dem critters who voted for Obamacare will be bounced out of office this Nov, and Obamacare needs to be an anchor around the neck of the Dem party for years if not decades to come.

49

Ever eat Grape Nuts?

Some milk and sugar are edible. even cooked.

50 Well by god, we'd damn well better get mike castle in there to stop this nonsense.

51 Ever eat Grape Nuts?

Sprinkle 'em over yogurt.  Trust me.

52 With God as my witness!  I'll never go hungry again with grape nuts on the shelf and strawberry yogurt in the fridge ...

53 "This provision didn't allow for the separate parts to be individually considered, something that most bills contain. Since this is missing from the DeathCare bill, if one part of it is struck down, the whole bill dies."

Doubtful.  Severability provisions are generally redundant: the canons of statutory construction effectively make all bills severable.  The only time "if it's invalid, the whole thing is invalid" would apply is if it had actually been enacted in a procedurally unconstitutional way, like, say, arguably, "deem-and-pass," which didn't happen.  That's how many state statutes get tossed by their state supreme courts under the single-subject provisions of most (all?) state constitutions, but the federal constitution doesn't have one of those.  Maybe it should, though one should consider that that WOULD give more still more power to the judiciary.

54 Obama will simply veto the measure, because any attempt to repeal part of ObamaCare will result in most of it being gutted.

Probably dies in Committee. Harry and Nancy love this stuff -- more IRS intrusion into every aspect of your life, more control for them! Dems saw it, and loved it. Now they are feeling the heat. But they still won't repeal it. Too many see the ability to act (in very safe seats, like say Linda Sanchez's) as an influence peddler to intercede with the IRS as a legislator.

That's whole purpose of the 1099 requirement.

55

The entire criminal enterprise of Big government is infected with the Moral Hazard:  it's not their money, civil servants can't be fired for squandering it, and politicians have rigged the game to keep themselves in power and stamp out challengers.

I long for the day the media report,  "It's been raining politicians today, from every upper-story window in Washington".

56 Good luck trying to put the bloated, putrid Obamacare genie back in the bottle.

Wrong.  It's a trade-off. 

US Primacy and Dominance over a hand-out.

Who wouldn't buy that?

57 whiskey,

I'm surprised this aspect isn't pointed out more often.

"Yes, that's a lot of money and unreasonable, Mr. Constitutent. Tell you what: give me half that much, and I'll go to the IRS and get the bill canceled."

Regards,
Ric

58 You're looking at this the wrong way.

Yes, Obama's an "opponent".

BUT he cares--or alleges to care--about those who are suffering.

Get to the root of why people of this Country are suffering, and you probably have a place at the negotiating table again.

And WHAT is it that we can all agree today?

59 ...And WHAT is it that we can all agree ON today?

60 @51 Where did you find grape pudding?

61 ...if they want to have any kind of political life left.

Consider the culture.  Improving and bettering your life one step at a time.

We have more in common than we don't.  We're AMERICANS.  That's the message that works today--on both sides.

62 And for the frickin' "communications" dimwits out there...

...It's not JUST the message.

It's the GOAL.

63 Tell me you morons can't relate to this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d82NF01r-xc

64 They were assured it was all stufff they very much wanted and that was enough for them.

How appropriate, Gucci.

When was "lowering our standard of living" ever acceptable to ANYONE in THIS Country?

Culture.  OURS.

65 Our men and women have fought--and DIED--to protect our freedom, our RIGHT to pursue happiness WHATEVER way we, as Individuals, define it...to have it taken away by WHO?

CULTURE snobs?

What's wrong with OUR culture?

66
Calcium Hypochlorite

67
I don't want any bill written by any democrat.

Garbage.
Enough.

68

<p>Under the new provisions if you file a Schedule C (self-employed) or are a business, you must send a 1099 to every vendor or supplier to whom you pay more than $600 cumulatively in one tax year.</p>

<p>If you pay more than $600 total to Wal-Mart in one year, you must send Wal-Mart a 1099.   If you give more than $600 total to BP for gas in one year, you must send BP a 1099.</p>

<p>The 1099 forms that you submit to the IRS must not be hand-written.  They must be optically readable by machine.  You must call the IRS and ask to have shipped to you the special machine-readable forms and thread them in your printer (PDF blanks not accepted).  See IRS Pub 1220 (page 5) and the Form 1099 instructions (page 101).  The IRS penalty for unacceptable 1099s is $50 per item.</p>

<p>Have fun!</p>

69

Blah, I thought tags would work.

70

Another thing -- think of other business transactions like, I don't know, buying a car. If you have a trade-in, then the dealer has to give you a 1099 and then you -- you, the not-business party! -- have to declare the trade-in value as income.

Same with hocking stuff at a pawnshop or, I think, selling stuff on ebay or amazon.

This is insanity.

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