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June 10, 2010

Senate Defeats Murkowski Amendment
— Ace

Corrected: I got this story wrong in every way possible; I thought the Amendment would give the EPA power to regulate CO2, so I thought Murkowski was on the wrong side of it.

I got it all wrong. Murkowski's amendment was to forbid the EPA from "adjusting" the law as written to give itself non-delegated power to do this, so the amendment's defeat represents a defeat for progress.

Apologies.

The Senate defeated this 47 in favor to 53 opposed, with six Democrats joining the R's.

Posted by: Ace at 02:05 PM | Comments (151)
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1 Totally fucking wrong, Ace. Murkowski's amenmend OPPOSED letting the EPA regulate carbon (duh, she's from the biggest oil-producing state in the US), and it FAILED.

Which means the EPA now will regulate carbon as a greenhouse gas. In other words, the Senate SUCCEEDED in destroying the American economy today.

We're boned.

Posted by: Jeff B. at June 10, 2010 02:07 PM (l1KFP)

2 It's pathetic that the vote was even close.

Posted by: conscious, but incoherent - Florida Gators Fan at June 10, 2010 02:08 PM (YVZlY)

3 Um, how drunk are you?

Posted by: BadgerHawk at June 10, 2010 02:08 PM (+IACL)

4 Can I exhale now?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 10, 2010 02:08 PM (0QJjg)

5 6 Democrats joining the R's

The footfalls are getting louder. Won't help them, though.

Posted by: pep at June 10, 2010 02:09 PM (0K3p3)

6 I think you have that backwards Ace. I believe Murkowski's bill would stop the EPA's power grab. We're still screwed.

Posted by: Rich at June 10, 2010 02:09 PM (Qrjpn)

7 6 Democrats...

The footfalls are getting louder. Won't help them though.

Posted by: pep at June 10, 2010 02:10 PM (0K3p3)

first?

Dubious honor

Posted by: John at June 10, 2010 02:10 PM (90oki)

9 stop exhaling!

Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 10, 2010 02:10 PM (ucxC/)

10 What do you expect from the head Moron?

Posted by: John P. Squibob at June 10, 2010 02:11 PM (/U/Mr)

11 right... I got it. Had to put it into draft to correct.

Posted by: ace at June 10, 2010 02:12 PM (66DVY)

12 What the hell just happened with that story. I watched as it was disappeared, and the first post didn't seem to go through. I blame Bush.

Posted by: pep at June 10, 2010 02:12 PM (0K3p3)

13 Plant food (which comprises a whopping .3% of the atmospheric gases) is bad!

Guess we'd better all suffocate ourselves!

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 10, 2010 02:12 PM (c0A3e)

14 10 What do you expect from the head Moron?

At least this isn't a repost of another thread.

It's a unique mistake.

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 10, 2010 02:13 PM (c0A3e)

15 So now that Ace is finished with his mea maxima culpa, let's start discussing how much more we are boned with this new EPA regulation.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at June 10, 2010 02:13 PM (/U/Mr)

I approve of your apology, brother.

Posted by: B. Husein Obama at June 10, 2010 02:14 PM (gbCNS)

17 OK, but how does this affect me after I sent all of those penis pics to Ace. Seriously, I thought he was talking to me in code. It was an honest misunderstanding.

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at June 10, 2010 02:14 PM (oIp16)

18
I told y'all yesterday while we were yukking it up over Obama saying 'ass' the Democrats were ramming through their radical agenda.

Posted by: fishdicks at June 10, 2010 02:14 PM (uFokq)

19 You should just blog a lot for the rest of the night. That way this post will be pushed down far enough that hardly anyone sees it.

Posted by: BadgerHawk at June 10, 2010 02:14 PM (+IACL)

20 "Fish, and plankton. And sea greens, and protein from the sea. It's all here, ready. Fresh as harvest day."

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 10, 2010 02:15 PM (0QJjg)

9 stop exhaling!

Exactly! Really this is such a no-brainer. I'm surprised it wasn't tucked into Health Care "Reform". The death panels will be used to stop those folks who fall outside Ezekial Rahm's bell curve - the old, the young the non-productive from producing too much CO2 by denying them health care. They are so sure that that way they can kill two birds with one stone - get rid of global warming and overpopulation.

Besides there certainly aren't any more important issues for Congress to be dealing with at the moment.

asshats.

Posted by: tank at June 10, 2010 02:15 PM (aglOh)

22 This is really bad. I'm just waiting for the annhilation that the Democrats are going to bring on us all when you've got a bunch of pissed off lame ducks serving out the remaining 2 months of their term. Then it will be "Katie bar the door", these guys are going out with a Kamikaze salute.

Posted by: runningrn at June 10, 2010 02:15 PM (CfmlF)

Can I exhale now?

Sure, for a fee.

Posted by: EPA at June 10, 2010 02:16 PM (YMKQo)

24
And I'll say it again: These Democrats are not running scared.

They are not acting like a party who's afraid of losing power in November. Which tells me one thing: They have us exactly where they want us.

The Democrats aren't fucking around. And we better stop fucking around if we want to beat them in November.

Posted by: a concerned fishdick at June 10, 2010 02:16 PM (uFokq)

25 And to think some people didn't want us to re-take the senate, because that would somehow help odumbass.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at June 10, 2010 02:18 PM (aG/Y/)

26 the Senate SUCCEEDED in destroying the American economy today.

that ship sailed on 12.24.09

Posted by: YRM at June 10, 2010 02:19 PM (38UQ3)

Here's the 6 Dems who voted for:

Evan Bayh, Mary Landrieu, Blanche Lincoln, Ben Nelson, Mark Pryor, and even Jay Rockefeller, who hails from the coal capital of West Virginia, crossed the aisle to vote with the GOP

Bwhahaha--Ben and Blanche...

Posted by: runningrn at June 10, 2010 02:19 PM (CfmlF)

28 22 This is really bad. I'm just waiting for the annhilation that the Democrats are going to bring on us all when you've got a bunch of pissed off lame ducks serving out the remaining 2 months of their term. Then it will be "Katie bar the door", these guys are going out with a Kamikaze salute.

Let's see what horrible possibilities could be waiting for us: VAT? Some sort of amnesty (if it doesn't pass this summer)? Nationalization of energy companies? Federal bailout of Cali?

In the end, there will be only chaos.

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 10, 2010 02:19 PM (c0A3e)

29 I'm glad the press was making us aware of this impending vote. Y'know, before they actually voted.

Posted by: SC Jackstick at June 10, 2010 02:19 PM (EL+OC)

30
The EPA twit, Lisa Jackson, said yesterday she didn't give a fuck about the science. All she cares about is taxing carbon.

Yet no one cared. Well, here we are. Fucked. We better start paying attention because the Democrats and the Obama admin have a lot more planned for us.

Posted by: a concerned fishdick at June 10, 2010 02:19 PM (uFokq)

31 So now how does this work? Unless Congress says no then we are going to destroy the economy? And here I thought we already had this negative rights discussion.

Just think of the possibilities this opens for someone like Kagan and her Harvard Law Review thesis "Presidential Administration". Where the president administers all life and activity in America with the bureaucracy by crushing regulations and taxes ...

Sounds a whole lot like slavery to me.

Posted by: bill-tb at June 10, 2010 02:20 PM (y+QfZ)

32 And I'll say it again: These Democrats are not running scared. Oh but they are: these are the moves of a cornered animal lashing out before the baseball bat turns out the lights..permanently.

Posted by: ECM at June 10, 2010 02:20 PM (nYKDd)

I'm glad the press was making us aware of this impending vote. Y'know, before they actually voted.

We've been really busy working on a "real" news story - did Sarah Palin get a boob job or not. We didn't have time for this fluff.

Posted by: norah o'donnell at June 10, 2010 02:22 PM (aglOh)

34 I can't ( well, yes I can ) believe goddamn Begich voted against this. I thought he said that he was going to do what was right for Alaska when he was running for the seat? Piece of crap dem.

Posted by: Bosk at June 10, 2010 02:23 PM (pUO5u)

35
You know what else is coming the pike? Amnesty, that's what.

There will be no vote in Congress. Obama will simply issue all the illegals indefinite work and student visas. Yes, he can do that. Who's gonna stop him?

Posted by: a concerned fishdick at June 10, 2010 02:23 PM (uFokq)

Sounds a whole lot like slavery to me.
Posted by: bill-tb at June 10, 2010 06:20 PM (y+QfZ)

Tee hee!

Posted by: B. Husein Obama at June 10, 2010 02:23 PM (gbCNS)

Oh but they are: these are the moves of a cornered animal lashing out before the baseball bat turns out the lights..permanently

I concur. Rabid, crazed Democrat lame ducks are the most dangerous animal on the face of this planet. You will hear them screaming Banzai when they exit the national stage. I am really nervous.

Posted by: runningrn at June 10, 2010 02:24 PM (CfmlF)

38 Evan Bayh: "moderate" that retired after he sold out his principles, in a way he saw what he was doing to himself and quit knowing he was digging himself in a hole

Mary Landrieu: "moderate" that has been caught w/ a "Piggy Landrieu" line stuck to her and needs to get moderate image back, I really hope she loses in '12

Blanche Lincoln: needs "moderate" image back in a state that went to McCain by double digits and facing a 30-40 point loss in November

Ben Nelson: "moderate" that sold out to the seniors in FL and needs that moderate image back, some speculate he won;t run for re-election since he's polling unpopular for the first time down here

seeing a pattern here?

Posted by: YRM at June 10, 2010 02:24 PM (38UQ3)

I wonder how many new IRS agents it will take to enforce?

When I take a run on the beach will I still be allowed to take my dogs with me? One of them's a little fat and slow and pants a lot - does that get me a ticket for too much CO2 production?

Posted by: tank at June 10, 2010 02:25 PM (aglOh)

40 first? Dubious honor Posted by: John at June 10, 2010 06:10 PM (90oki) First

Posted by: Some Cockless Wonder With No Life at June 10, 2010 02:25 PM (wOtDN)

41 I only have one question;

What exemptions and offsets did they provide for themselves somewhere tucked into this bill?

You know damn well they're not going to bone their own bank accounts

Posted by: kbdabear at June 10, 2010 02:25 PM (sYxEE)

42 Levin is going apeshit over this. I hope he took his meds today.

Posted by: Bosk at June 10, 2010 02:26 PM (pUO5u)

Posted by: Bosk at June 10, 2010 06:26 PM (pUO5u)

when isn't he going apeshit?

Posted by: YRM at June 10, 2010 02:27 PM (38UQ3)

44 We're looking at a Depression.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at June 10, 2010 02:27 PM (xO+6C)

45 #40 Some Cockless Wonder With No Life at June 10, 2010 06:25 PM (wOtDN)

Hey, somebody took my other sn!

Seriously, we need some rich enterprising conservative group to start issuing lawsuit after lawsuit against the EPA and these enviro-gits. Time to use this lawfare tactic against them.

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 10, 2010 02:27 PM (c0A3e)

46 Oh, but they are.

Concur. Gerry Connoly has all of a sudden found religion on illegals, whereas he used pimp for his district as a "sanctuary county". He is probably happy that Fimian beat Herrity, and it will be interesting to see how the "purity" candidate pans out here in increasingly purple NoVa. But the shift in Connoly's politics is unmistakable. He is sweating.

Posted by: pep at June 10, 2010 02:28 PM (0K3p3)

47
Well, I've switched to alcohol now. I don't think I have enough, though. We are so screwed.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 10, 2010 02:28 PM (UOM48)

32 yeah, well, I think we need to worry about the cornered animal giving us a terminal case of rabies before it gets conked with that slugger

The EPA is already powerful enough to break a person (just ask some landowners and small businesspeople)...if they have more power and nobody to answer to but the head boss, then what? This to me is actually potentially worse than that stupid carbon legislation -- once they get the power, it's hard to take it away from them, and they hide behind the image of being "protectors of the environment and lovers of Bambi" that has been fostered in the public.

Posted by: unknown jane, humanities major at June 10, 2010 02:29 PM (5/yRG)

49 I get it wrong so much that I do better when I go against instinct, Kinda like Costanza does in the Seinfeld The Opposite episode.

Posted by: sTevo at June 10, 2010 02:29 PM (zIUsq)

50 So Congress essentially just voted to make themselves LESS powerful and the executive MORE powerful. Fuckin' imbeciles.

Posted by: cackfinger at June 10, 2010 02:31 PM (TUBcJ)

51 43

Posted by: Bosk at June 10, 2010 06:26 PM (pUO5u)

when isn't he going apeshit?

Exactly. Guy sounds like Billy Mays(RIP) yelling at me all the time.

Posted by: Barbarian at June 10, 2010 02:31 PM (EL+OC)

52 So does this mean there will be no camps? I mean, we're all "breathers" and all. What could the alternative possibly be?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 10, 2010 02:31 PM (UOM48)

53 Ooooooo.
Stock market ought to be a blast come opening in the AM.
Passengers just sit back relax and enjoy a second dip that promises to be twice the ride of the first.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 10, 2010 02:31 PM (0q2P7)

54 We're looking at a Depression.

We're already in one.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 10, 2010 02:32 PM (mR7mk)

55 So Congress essentially just voted to make themselves LESS powerful and the executive MORE powerful. Fuckin' imbeciles.

Technically they were watching the executive branch usurp their authority and they voted to ignore it.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 10, 2010 02:32 PM (0q2P7)

56 Guy sounds like Billy Mays(RIP) yelling at me all the time. Posted by: Barbarian at June 10, 2010 06:31 PM (EL+OC) BILLY MAYS WAS A BEAUTIFUL HUMAN BEING! IMAGINE HAVING SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH BILLY MAYS!! NO MORE GRUNTING, NO MORE MOANING, JUST SCREAMING AND POUNDING ALL NIGHT LONG!

Posted by: THE DREAD PIRATE NECK BEARD at June 10, 2010 02:33 PM (wOtDN)

57 54 We're looking at a Depression.

We're already in one.
Posted by: HeatherRadish

When I lose my job, then we're in a Depression.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at June 10, 2010 02:33 PM (xO+6C)

Less Checks!

Less Balances!

Posted by: Democratic Platform at June 10, 2010 02:33 PM (Kj8VC)

59 Is the EPA gonna buy their shotguns from the same place the IRS gets theirs?

Posted by: sifty at June 10, 2010 02:35 PM (5nyPy)

99% of the mass of the human body is made up of only six elements: oxygen, carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, calcium, and phosphorus. ...

so i guess we are now Legally a danger to The powers that be

Posted by: willow at June 10, 2010 02:35 PM (HyUIR)

"when isn't he going apeshit?"

That's passion! I love it. I wish some of that passion for the Constitution would rub off on our elected officials.

Posted by: Bosk at June 10, 2010 02:36 PM (pUO5u)

Human body=Carbon (18%)

so we are 20 percent extinct? or is that their goal?

Posted by: willow at June 10, 2010 02:37 PM (HyUIR)

63 Obviously, now would be the perfect time to start snarking about that SC dipstick's employment status when about half of us here are going to be sharing that status by this time next year. Let's go!

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at June 10, 2010 02:37 PM (m8nvD)

64 So, as of now, the GOP is effectively (whether they like it or not, dammit) running on
1. Repeal
2. Impeach if Obastard so much as sneezes funny
3. Save Israel
4. Contain the EPA

Posted by: Methos at June 10, 2010 02:37 PM (Xsi7M)

65 #57 When I lose my job, then we're in a Depression.

When Obama and the Dems lose their jobs, then we're in a recovery.

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 10, 2010 02:37 PM (c0A3e)

66 Sweet Jeebus!!! Just turned to Crazy Ed and he's asking a senator why we can't drill for oil in the shale fields on N. Dakota. Am I hallucinating? Wtf? I thought the lefties don't believe in any drilling at all!?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 10, 2010 02:38 PM (UOM48)

67 57 54 We're looking at a Depression.

We're already in one.
Posted by: HeatherRadish

When I lose my job, then we're in a Depression.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at June 10, 2010 06:33 PM (xO+6C)

I've lost mine, so it's already here.

Posted by: willow at June 10, 2010 02:38 PM (HyUIR)

Our vision for the future of the U.S. is along the lines of most of North Korea: No cars and no electricity. Every day is Earth Day there.

Posted by: The EPA, the most important federal bureau at June 10, 2010 02:38 PM (zL5Q1)

69 so we are 20 percent extinct? or is that their goal? Posted by: willow at June 10, 2010 06:37 PM (HyUIR) I think they're in with the "involuntary euthanasia" crowd: less than 1.5 billion or something is their goal.

Posted by: The Dread Pirate Neck Beard at June 10, 2010 02:39 PM (wOtDN)

70 O/T: Is this the kilgore trout you talk about?: "Zac Sunderland said in an interview with Ron Kilgore of KNX radio in Los Angeles."

Posted by: curious at June 10, 2010 02:39 PM (p302b)

_{That's passion! I love it.}

I like Levin. He lays it out. Right on the fuckin' table.

Posted by: g at June 10, 2010 02:39 PM (Kj8VC)

72 NO MORE GRUNTING, NO MORE MOANING, JUST SCREAMING AND POUNDING ALL NIGHT LONG! You're a sick, sick pirate :--)

Posted by: fluffy at June 10, 2010 02:39 PM (4Kl5M)

73 When the American public can no longer buy bread or beer, maybe THEY'LL GET THEIR FUCKIN' TAR AND PITCHFORKS AND DO THE RIGHT THING!

Beer and bread make you fat, so they'll only be available at my weekly parties.

Posted by: Michelle Obama at June 10, 2010 02:39 PM (mR7mk)

74 O/T: Member of the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission: No one's read the bill.

"[A] member of the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission told billionaire investor Warren Buffett that "no one" has read the text of the financial regulatory reform bills, "including some of the co-sponsors.""

Le sigh.

Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at June 10, 2010 02:39 PM (zgd5N)

75 #57 When I lose my job, then we're in a Depression.

When Obama and the Dems lose their jobs, then we're in a recovery.

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 10, 2010 06:37 PM (c0A3e)

heck, I actually pray for it now.

Posted by: willow at June 10, 2010 02:39 PM (HyUIR)

76 People have been screaming the end of the world since this happened this afternoon.

Will get a chance to stop this again in Jan 11 before they completely collapse the country.

Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2010 02:40 PM (6taRI)

77 Am I hallucinating? Wtf? I thought the lefties don't believe in any drilling at all!?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 10, 2010 06:38 PM (UOM4

It gives them cover to support things that will never happen. Start drilling in North Dakota and watch the environmentalists howl with righteous rage.

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at June 10, 2010 02:41 PM (oIp16)

78 50 So Congress essentially just voted to make themselves LESS powerful and the executive MORE powerful. Fuckin' imbeciles.

Not imbecilic at all; this actually makes perfect sense. The Leftists in Congress know the odds are great that they will lose at least the House to the Republicans this year, and the Senate by 2012 at the very latest, so they've got to transfer as much power from the Congress to Obama NOW.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at June 10, 2010 02:41 PM (m8nvD)

79 #70 I think they're in with the "involuntary euthanasia" crowd: less than 1.5 billion or something is their goal.

Way less than that - some want to eliminate 90% of the human population.

So that's about 5.9 billion people they want to kill, for starters.

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 10, 2010 02:42 PM (c0A3e)

80 When Obama and the Dems lose their jobs, then we're in a recovery it may be too late.

FIFY.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at June 10, 2010 02:42 PM (m8nvD)

81 "I don't want you to communicate with anyone in any way ... about this case or anything to do with it," Zagel warned. "Do not make any investigation or try to learn about the case on your own," he said. "I'm sure by the end of this trial you will learn more than perhaps you want than when the case began.'"

Hmmm if any AOSHQ commenter stops commenting we'll know they are on the jury.

Posted by: curious at June 10, 2010 02:42 PM (p302b)

82 60

99% of the mass of the human body is made up of only six elements: oxygen, carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, calcium, and phosphorus. ...

so i guess we are now Legally a danger to The powers that be

Posted by: willow at June 10, 2010 06:35 PM (HyUIR)

So we (humans) are officially pollution?

Posted by: theCork at June 10, 2010 02:43 PM (zL5Q1)

83 So we (humans) are officially pollution?

Is that a step up or down from our current classification as parasites?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 10, 2010 02:44 PM (mR7mk)

84 67 Sweet Jeebus!!! Just turned to Crazy Ed and he's asking a senator why we can't drill for oil in the shale fields on N. Dakota. Am I hallucinating? Wtf? I thought the lefties don't believe in any drilling at all!?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 10, 2010 06:38 PM

If Ed Schultz spent some time reading TexasJew's posts on the ONT instead of downloading fat lady porn, he'd know that it's being done

Posted by: kbdabear at June 10, 2010 02:44 PM (sYxEE)

85 So we (humans) are officially pollution? Posted by: theCork at June 10, 2010 06:43 PM (zL5Q1) From Malthus and Sanger on . . .

Posted by: The Dread Pirate Neck Beard at June 10, 2010 02:45 PM (wOtDN)

86 Impeach if Obastard so much as sneezes funny

As far as I know, impeachment has no statute of limitations. That means O's unusual administrative job candidacy prerequisites (Must be a democrat running in a contested primary) are still on the table.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 10, 2010 02:45 PM (0q2P7)

87 I think they're in with the "involuntary euthanasia" crowd: less than 1.5 billion or something is their goal.

That's scarier than Barbara Boxer's '80's hair.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 10, 2010 02:46 PM (0QJjg)

88 81 When Obama and the Dems lose their jobs, then we're in a recovery it may will be too late.

Fixed it again.

Sorry, just carrying on the pessimistic, but most likely correct, scenario.

/Think that the upcoming shitstorm of domestic and foreign slip-ups are going to overtake us all soon. Chaos and everything...

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 10, 2010 02:46 PM (c0A3e)

89 Why are all you racist wingnuts so angry all the time? You're scaring me and causing Keith to cry in his bathtub. You should be celebrating in the streets because the planet has been saved.

Oh, and how I got my exemptions and offsets is none of your damn business

Posted by: Chrissy Matthews at June 10, 2010 02:47 PM (sYxEE)

90 I just scanned and maybe I missed it but about two hours before the vote, Obama promised to veto it, if it passed. So it really didn't matter. As long as he's there, he's gonna tax the livin' shit out of us. Just sayin'

Posted by: Milo O at June 10, 2010 02:47 PM (Jqce/)

When I said 'Barbara Boxer's '80's hair,' I meant the hair on top of her head.

Just clearing that up.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 10, 2010 02:48 PM (0QJjg)

Actually Ms. Boxer should go full eighties with a Flock of Seagulls do.

Or Flock of Seagulls doo.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 10, 2010 02:49 PM (0QJjg)

So we (humans) are officially pollution

sheesh, get with the politically correct terms !

we are lovely in our own special way. or in Demonrat terms...un-desirables.

Posted by: willow at June 10, 2010 02:49 PM (HyUIR)

94 92

When I said 'Barbara Boxer's '80's hair,' I meant the hair on top of her head.

Just clearing that up.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 10, 2010 06:48 PM

Thank you, I can put the Maalox down now

Posted by: kbdabear at June 10, 2010 02:49 PM (sYxEE)

95 91 I just scanned and maybe I missed it but about two hours before the vote, Obama promised to veto it, if it passed. So it really didn't matter. As long as he's there, he's gonna tax the livin' shit out of us.

Right, for the glory of social justice and "fairness".

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 10, 2010 02:52 PM (c0A3e)

96 Way less than that - some want to eliminate 90% of the human population. So that's about 5.9 billion people they want to kill, for starters. Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 10, 2010 06:42 PM (c0A3e) First google hit for "sustainable population" here says 3,540,636,150 sustainable at current average levels. Man that's a hard read. Those are some creepy mother fuckers.

Posted by: The Dread Pirate Neck Beard at June 10, 2010 02:54 PM (wOtDN)

97 Obama promised to veto it

Which means he's gonna sign it tomorrow (Friday), 4:30 EST or so, between golf and partying.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 10, 2010 02:54 PM (mR7mk)

98 Those are some creepy mother fuckers.

They typed all that out instead of killing themselves? I question their sincerity.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 10, 2010 02:55 PM (mR7mk)

99 #99 They typed all that out instead of killing themselves? I question their sincerity.

Silly dirt-stealing Radish... only the peons and the "unenlightened" should have to forfeit their lives for the glory of Gaia.

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 10, 2010 02:57 PM (c0A3e)

100 99 Those are some creepy mother fuckers.

They typed all that out instead of killing themselves? I question their sincerity.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 10, 2010 06:55 PM (mR7mk)

I'm in total solidarity with them ...but they should set an example and be 1st.

Posted by: willow at June 10, 2010 02:58 PM (HyUIR)

101

We often here from the MFM and the President about how bi-partisanship is important. Amazing to me that support FOR the bill was bi-partisan and opposition wasn't.

I second the idea of bringing back tar and feathers.

Posted by: Darth Randall at June 10, 2010 03:00 PM (oLULt)

102 Darth, i have some lovelu down pillows, and comforters, that i will sorrowfully give up for this Greater Good.

Posted by: willow at June 10, 2010 03:01 PM (HyUIR)

103

Carly Fiorina's ads now write themselves... after killing trucking ande transport with the CARB board Madame Boxer and her brigade insists on this nationwide, in virtually all industries....

God I hope she spends every dime to kick Babs ass here.

Posted by: CAC at June 10, 2010 03:01 PM (Gr1V1)

104

I approve of your apology, brother, but don't think we aren't keepin' score.

Posted by: B. Husein Obama at June 10, 2010 06:14 PM (gbCNS)

Posted by: RushBabe at June 10, 2010 03:01 PM (W8m8i)

105 You people are nuts, and dupes for Big Oil and Coal. You are also not conservative... you want to spend those resources now baby. To hell with the future. You also make a mockery of our educational system. A country cannot be both ignorant and free, to borrow a phrase. You want to be shakeled to the multni-nationals and their greed. And they even convince you that you like it.

Posted by: Kevin at June 10, 2010 03:01 PM (ks78O)

106 When i hear flock of seagulls,

First thing that comes to mind:

Oh I'm sorry, did i break your concentration.

Posted by: sTevo at June 10, 2010 03:02 PM (zIUsq)

107

Barbara Boxer:

IÂ’m going to put in the record, Madam President, a host of quotes from our national security experts who tell us that carbon pollution leading to climate change will be over the next 20 years the leading cause of conflict, putting our troops in harmÂ’s way. And thatÂ’s why we have so many returning veterans who want us to move forward and address this issue, so we can create those new technologies that get us off this foreign oil.

Posted by: Somebody at June 10, 2010 03:02 PM (Yq+qN)

108 Kevin, did you type that on a keyboard made of hemp and powered by moonbeams?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 10, 2010 03:03 PM (mR7mk)

109

Apparently some bill passed or didn't and will be the end of the world or not.

Posted by: kansas at June 10, 2010 03:03 PM (BNnTS)

110 Kevin only lives sustainably on a tiny 2ftx2ft mat, never doing evil corporate things like using the interweb.

Posted by: A Really Sweaty and Nervous Larry Marchant at June 10, 2010 03:04 PM (wOtDN)

111 Blah, blah, blah, blah, *discredited talking point*, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, *I'm so much smarter than yous!*, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, *obligatory stab at teh Big Evil Corps*, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, *Did I mention how much more smarter I am than you?*, blah, blah, blah.

Posted by: Kevin (newest Axelrod troll) at June 10, 2010 03:05 PM (c0A3e)

112 Yeah, I called the local office of my Senator after hearing the news and the staffer I got was just as astounded / alarmed as I was.

"We all thought that this was a no-brainer."

I'm not sure if my suggestion that my Senator make a project out of disbanding dangerous entities like the EPA, top priority once his party is back in power will be passed along, much less seriously considered but I did offer my opinion.

This is not idealistic principal.

This is not "slippery slope" alarmism.

I honestly believe that congress's abdication of it's own authority to the EPA today is an existential danger to this nation.

Tell me I'm overwrought.

Posted by: Deety at June 10, 2010 03:06 PM (aVzyR)

113 #108 Posted by: Somebody at June 10, 2010 07:02 PM (Yq+qN) Quoting Barbara Boxer = picking on cripples...

Posted by: Milo O at June 10, 2010 03:06 PM (Jqce/)

114 Pretty sure the local organic beet co-op has never manufactured, placed, or lit a fiber optic cable.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 10, 2010 03:07 PM (mR7mk)

115

c'mon silly ones, we cannot support all the parasites on earth.

we'll start with the southern rednecks

Torah thumpers . the jews that won't obey(sorry your turn again)

go to the corporate folks

bankers

white collar workers

religious give peace a chance sell-outs to abortion, islam, and the rest of us..

gun owners

bible thumpers

people that think abortion isn't correct

vets.

heck blue collar workers.

running out of people.

Give me time

Posted by: ayers- dorhn-jennings- whomever else. at June 10, 2010 03:07 PM (HyUIR)

116 I don't use oil, Teabaggers. Crisco works just fine.

Posted by: Kevin Arnold at June 10, 2010 03:08 PM (m8nvD)

117 114 #108 True, but she completely lost it on this one. Is it possible to top bat-shit insane?

Posted by: Somebody at June 10, 2010 03:08 PM (Yq+qN)

118 You people are nuts, and dupes for Big Oil and Coal.

And you are a stupid communist SOB. Get lost sorry troll, you aren't even a pimple on a good troll's butt.

Posted by: Vic at June 10, 2010 03:08 PM (6taRI)

119 Hey guys, I'm totally sustainable, and I'll even help out with the rent if my parents ever send me that check they promised.

Posted by: Kevin, in the basement, with the family dog at June 10, 2010 03:09 PM (wOtDN)

120

addendum to 116

don't worry Liberals, you might be eaten last, ENJOY@!

Posted by: ayers- dorhn-jennings- whomever else. at June 10, 2010 03:09 PM (HyUIR)

121

You people are nuts, and dupes for Big Oil and Coal

hell tries to throw a ump of coal at the not-so-bright-one, fails,

dupes, ? show me your pic baby

on the way to work with your tools or breifcase on a bicycle. i'll believe ya.

Posted by: ayers- dorhn-jennings- whomever else. at June 10, 2010 03:11 PM (HyUIR)

122
Way less than that - some want to eliminate 90% of the human population.

So that's about 5.9 billion people they want to kill, for starters.

Now some genuine crazy:

You know the web bots, the predictive linguistic program? They have been saying for a while that the goal of the powers that be is to kill 1.3 billion people.

This is a good way to do it.

Another is to ignore the situation in the gulf.

Posted by: shibumi at June 10, 2010 03:13 PM (OKZrE)

123 106 You people are nuts, and dupes for Big Oil and Coal. You are also not conservative... you want to spend those resources now baby. To hell with the future. You also make a mockery of our educational system. A country cannot be both ignorant and free, to borrow a phrase. You want to be shakeled to the multni-nationals and their greed. And they even convince you that you like it.

Posted by: Kevin at June 10, 2010 07:01 PM (ks78O)

--Thanks. I lost IQ just reading part of that.

Posted by: logprof at June 10, 2010 03:15 PM (Mmw0q)

124 And one more thing:

Kudos to my Idiot Senators, Levin and Stabenow, for voting for something that will kill manufacturing.

I don't know if they know this, but there used to be manufacturing in Michigan.

Not any more. We're going to a "green" economy.

Shudder.

/heads to basement doomstead to stack ammo and canned food....

Posted by: shibumi at June 10, 2010 03:15 PM (OKZrE)

125

Obama, talks to much , exhaling more than the average American.

shame.

Posted by: ayers- dorhn-jennings- whomever else. at June 10, 2010 03:15 PM (HyUIR)

126 Maybe if you stupid cons would stop wasting time and money rooting for a piece of clothing and your mercenary sports teams, we would not be wasting so much electricity!!!1!!111!

Posted by: Porker of Alfredo at June 10, 2010 03:16 PM (Mmw0q)

127 If you really want to save the world, don't fuck women.

Posted by: Saint Gore the Ungay at June 10, 2010 03:19 PM (wOtDN)

128 You also make a mockery of our educational system. A country cannot be both ignorant and free, to borrow a phrase. You want to be shakeled to the multni-nationals and their greed. And they even convince you that you like it.

Posted by: Kevin at June 10, 2010 07:01 PM (ks78O

mockery of education?

what, womens diversity? arts? 3 credits to know we are women with rights in America?

showing children how to condom a banana? (who knows)

communications and careers?15 minutesof study for 2 credits

you mean those so oooooh important studies?

Posted by: ayers- dorhn-jennings- whomever else. at June 10, 2010 03:22 PM (HyUIR)

129

Kevin...how about teaching children math, science, reding we have a massive failure rate of the simplists task we all should have.

slim down, throw away the useless garbage, have our children be competitive in the world. forget the CRAP

Posted by: ayers- dorhn-jennings- whomever else. at June 10, 2010 03:24 PM (HyUIR)

130

The 6 Dems who voted with Rs to try and head off the eco-usurpationÂ…

Landrieu, Lincoln, B. Nelson, M. Pryor, Bayh, Rockefeller.

That bastard Webb must've switched his vote at the last minute. Got an urgent e-mail from the local patriot group yesterday urging members to call Warner to join Webb in voting for the resolution.

If you missed Beck, he was scarier than usual, and he didn't even talk about this. You know that commie gathering Botox was heckled at yesterday? Well, the always-calming Van Jones spoke to the same group and told them everything was hunky dory, 'cause this is the week progressives start acting like progressives. I'm thinking he meant this carbon-tax bunk.

Beck had old footage of the only FBI agent to successfully infiltrate the Weathermen and he reiterated that when he asked how the group was going to convince those who weren't with the program, they told him how they expected to have to disappear 10,000,000 to 25,000,000 as well as go the re-education-camp route.

Also, did any of you catch the Communist Party USA's 29th Anniversary Celebration? No? It was on C-SPAN. They discussed their accomplishments in gleeful detail.

Posted by: RushBabe at June 10, 2010 03:24 PM (W8m8i)

131 and yes i am a product of nea, aren't you damned sad.

Posted by: ayers- dorhn-jennings- whomever else. at June 10, 2010 03:25 PM (HyUIR)

132 In other news, Al Gore is gay.

Posted by: The Globe at June 10, 2010 03:30 PM (HtIec)

133 Kevin...how about teaching children math, science, reding we have a massive failure rate of the simplists task we all should have.

LOL at the fellow moron.

Posted by: Methos at June 10, 2010 03:31 PM (Xsi7M)

134

You also make a mockery of our educational system. A country cannot be both ignorant and free, to borrow a phrase. You want to be shakeled to the multni-nationals and their greed. And they even convince you that you like it.

Is that some kind of shake down? Or do you mean to say "shackled"? Obviously, our education system failed you.

Posted by: runningrn at June 10, 2010 03:31 PM (CfmlF)

135 methos, shhh.

Posted by: ayers- dorhn-jennings- whomever else. at June 10, 2010 03:32 PM (HyUIR)

136 Is there anything the EPA does that is not duplicated by the various State environmental offices?

What would stop a Republican House from just passing an EPA appropriations bill that includes only a bare minimum of funding for whatever few actual Federal responsibilities they have and direct all administrative matters be handled by the Dept of Commerce? If the Senate didn't act, amended it, filibustered it, or Obama vetos it - then let it die in it's entirety.

Posted by: Jean at June 10, 2010 03:35 PM (CPefM)

137

You also make a mockery of our educational system. A country cannot be both ignorant and free, to borrow a phrase. You want to be shakeled to the multni-nationals and their greed. And they even convince you that you like it.

Is that some kind of shake down? Or do you mean to say "shackled"? Obviously, our education system failed you.

Posted by: runningrn at June 10, 2010 07:31 PM (CfmlF)

No, we're being shekeled by those damn Jews!

Posted by: Waalther at June 10, 2010 03:37 PM (Mmw0q)

138 The Dims aren't even close to having 60 votes for CapnTax; I doubt they even bring it up and go full bore on amnesty.

Posted by: Jean at June 10, 2010 03:40 PM (CPefM)

139

Jean, dunno

Is there anything the EPA does that is not duplicated by the various State environmental offices?

what i do know is the poor are always hardest hit.

Republicans should stand up point this out to those trying to get their cars smogged.

poor hardest hit, they now have to walk to work, because public busing is as anything gvt run. a joke.

simple.

Posted by: ayers- dorhn-jennings- whomever else. at June 10, 2010 03:40 PM (HyUIR)

140

This guy could be wildly delusional or smarter than we think.

http://bit.ly/cAQ8gU

Posted by: RushBabe at June 10, 2010 03:44 PM (W8m8i)

141 109 Kevin, did you type that on a keyboard made of hemp and powered by moonbeams?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 10, 2010 07:03 PM (mR7mk)

ahahahha, perfect. can i adopt you.

Posted by: ayers- dorhn-jennings- whomever else. at June 10, 2010 03:50 PM (HyUIR)

142 I haven't read all the comments but, has anyone noted that this will be bad for the economy?

Posted by: that guy that doesn't read all the comments at June 10, 2010 04:16 PM (4WbTI)

143 It's time for the Democrats to bring up the Smoot-Hawley tariff of 2010. That would go along way toward a real depression.

Posted by: kansas at June 10, 2010 04:23 PM (BNnTS)

144 The Dims aren't even close to having 60 votes for CapnTax; I doubt they even bring it up and go full bore on amnesty.

*cough*

Posted by: reconciliation at June 10, 2010 04:27 PM (4WbTI)

145 The carbon cycle is the cycle of life on planet Earth.

We always kind of knew they were anti-life, but this is a bit obvious, isn't it?

Hopefully there will be another chance to stop the idiot self-hating left from driving this particular stake through the heart of America...

Posted by: Merovign, Strong On His Mountain at June 10, 2010 04:36 PM (bxiXv)

146 We always kind of knew they were anti-life, but this is a bit obvious, isn't it?

Tom Clancy had their number more than a few years back, didn't he?

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at June 10, 2010 04:57 PM (SHKl9)

147 So what if Obooboo says "I'll veto it". EFF'im!
I am soooo tired of these candy a$$ diablo unduly elected voting stooges.

Stand for your principles. It's the one thing I demand. ONE THING!

Posted by: Blacksmith8 at June 10, 2010 05:16 PM (AxCSX)

148

@65: " So, as of now, the GOP is effectively (whether they like it or not, dammit) running on
1. Repeal
2. Impeach if Obastard so much as sneezes funny
3. Save Israel
4. Contain the EPA"

That's a laugher. They're going to run on:

1. Slight tweaks and let us manage it.

2. Protect the elites; fuck the rabble, and yes, The Messiah is one of us elites, thankyouverymuch.

3. Maybe save Israel, as long as there's some campaign cash in it.

4. Further empower the EPA/Slight tweaks and let us manage it."

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at June 10, 2010 05:45 PM (kmEfr)

149 Hahahahahaha. Enjoy your moment in the sun, EPA. Paybacks' a bitch.

Posted by: Upscale Community Organizing Thought Criminal at June 10, 2010 08:49 PM (IhHdM)

Your happythoughts are like mindpuppies and mindkittens and free money and stuff.

Jib, newsletter, et hoc genus omne

Posted by: Merovign, Strong On His Mountain at June 10, 2010 07:11 PM (bxiXv)

150 God tells me he can get me out of this, but I'm pretty sure you're fucked.

Posted by: That Irish Guy in Braveheart at June 10, 2010 08:30 PM (mA4jh)

151 This is probably good news, at least for truthful politics future politics. It puts another arrow in the quiver for the GOP to use this fall, and beyond. Assuming of course, the RINOs in the Senate don't cave when the issue comes up...

Translation, the Obamacrats are doubling down on everything they possibly can, and it's up to the RINOs and establishment GOP to call them on it everytime.

This kind of crap forms the foam on top of the Tea Party, one hardly needs to tell them to lather more...

Posted by: drfredc at June 10, 2010 09:44 PM (puRnk)

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