1 Bull *cough* shit.

2 I'm unconvinced.

3 Sure doesn't jibe with his earlier statements.

4

It had to be

1) from someone outside the government and

2) not worth any money in order to

3) not be a felony.

I'm sure everyone in the media except Major Garrett and possible Jake Tapper will eat this crap sandwich.

 

5 Umm. no.  Don't believe it.  Load of crap.

6 I did not offer a quid pro quo to that man, Representative Sestak.

7 Lets have the telephone logs and calendars for all individuals involved. This will be easy to verify. And of course using a conduit does not ameliorate the crime, if there be one.

8 I was hoping that Will Folks was the middleman.

9 This sounds legit to me. Also, don't forget, it's not bribery when a Democrat does it.

10 What a load of crap. I hope the MFM feel proud of themselves aiding and abetting this pile of steaming horseshit. CHANGE! HOPE! CRAP!

11 Bill Clinton is not part of the administration.  So he at the very least was lying the first time around. 

12 I was hoping that Will Folks was the middleman.

Will Folks is always a top. NEVER a middleman.

13 Either this is pure crap or  and/or Sestak was overstating the whole thing from the beginning....no, it's just crap smothered in crap with a side dish of crap.

14 OK We talked and got our story straight. Thanks for the weak follow up MSM. That's all folks. Don't bother trying to look further, the web of lies is perfect.

15 Its official: Our political elites actually think "We the People" are idiots.

16 DrewM, how come you guys are helping push the "it couldn't be SecNav" thing?  Zero does whatever he wants and so far has gotten away with it, so why the hell couldn't they have offered it?  Don't help provide plausible deniability for this cockholster.

17

Meghan Kelly and Dana Pernino side by side on Fox calling the Dems liars!

I'll be in my bunk.

18 So, to summarize, Clinton was primarily worried about Sestak's future, but completely unsurprised by his selflessness and overabundance of integrity.  Sounds about right.

19 Hello little lapdog puppies in the MFM.  Here, eat this...no that's not shit, it's...it's ...chocolate.  Yes a little chocolate sandwich.

As for the rest of America, I won, fuck you!!

20 Is anyone really shocked about this?  Sheesh.

Meanwhile, lefty Time Magazine Editor either has no idea who Sestak is or is feigning ignorance.  So glad my dad canceled his subscription to this rag and Newsweek.

21

So why didn't Sestak just explain all this numerous times he was asked prior to, and after the election? For that matter, why didn't Gibbs?

This is nothing but a pile of horse manure. I live in Sestak's district, I wouldn't expect much more than a bunch of shit from him anyway.

I don't think the White House realizes the damage this has done to their new Golden Boy. Just the taint of these allegations will drive many Independents to vote against Sestak, and disaffected Democrats will not be motivated to go to the polls.

Throwing Clinton into this mess will not help Smilin' Joe AT ALL.

and I see he's still getting a lot of mileage out of the PENNSYLVANIA WORKING FAMILIES phrase. Those three words strung together must have polled remarkably well in his focus groups.

22 Dana Perino on there now relaying advice she got:

"If you are ever going to have to eat crow, eat it quickly because otherwise its going to sit on your plate and fester and taste awful".

23 Complete bullshit.  But what else is Sestak going to do now that they've put the horse head in his bed?

24 I'm sorry, but any question about the soon to be Senator Seestak is just a distraction while we're in the midst of so many truly pressing crises.  blah, blah, blah,

25 Stupak, Sestak, Sellout

26
This is the Official Story^©, so shut up and take it, America. 

Don't worry, the RINOs will go along with this, in the name of reaching across the aisle.

27 Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 28, 2010 01:18 PM (cniXs)

Because as implausible as the advisory board story is, it's even more implausible that he was offered a job he wasn't legally eligible for.

28 The stench from this episode will stick to these losers for awhile. Quite awhile, I hope.

29 15 Its official: Our political elites actually think "We the People" are idiots

Sadly, at least a plurality of "We the People" are idiots.

30
But what else is Sestak going to do now that they've put the horse head in his bed?

Yeah, I wonder what the 'conversation' with his brother entailed.  I'm guessing something about what a nice family he had and wouldn't it be a shame if something were to happen to them.

31 Grrrrr.

32

Let's see..Obammie, Tinkerbell Emanuel, Clinton, Sestak, Robert Bauer..

...that makes five.....let's RICO their asses and thrown them in the pen

33 Posted by: DrewM. at May 28, 2010 01:24 PM (X/Lqh) on one of the threads yesterday, someone outlined why it could not be the secretary of the navy position and they were very clear and the post made a lot of sense. (don't know how this is going to come out, all of a sudden my formatting changed and the size of my lettering changed and got bolder)

34 Hey Pennsylvania, just lay still while I put my integrity in you.  You're welcome.

35

Sestak knows the score.  He saw Blumenthal lie his ass off about being in Viet Nam (and having been the captain of the Hah-vahd swim team, even though he was never even on the team) and the dems in Connecticut don't care one whit.  When you're a dem, you can lie about everything, and are expected to be a flat-out, transparent liar about most things. 

As I always say, Dems are nothing but despicable, lying scumbags, and they prefer their government to be filled with the same.  There is a distinct disadvantage for a Dem to tell the truth about anything.

36 No, no, no, that's a gentle spring mist, not urine, in your ear.

37 The problem with the phrase "Pennsylvania's (or Arkansas', or any other state) is that it is by necessity a reality.  Even the little kiddies will need to start selling pencils on the sidewalks to bring in some coin to pay for this massive debt Teh O has foisted upon us.

"Hey little Jimmy, get out of bed and mow the neighbors' yards.  You've got a $6K debt to pay off, thanks to the democrats!"

38 Posted by: Dang Straights at May 28, 2010 01:25 PM (fx8sm) Do you realize that people seem to be accepting mafia tactics in the government?

39 ". . . yeah, we got a lot of 'buffers' in the family." [laughter]

40

BJ Clinton at the WH yesterday?  Today he ends up providing the alibi?

Barry thinks we are stupid and the media is in his pocket.

He's half right.

41
Like to see the phone records from these two to see if even that corroborates  that at least the phone call happened.

You're just being obstructive and mean.  This is not the time to fight, we don't want to die on this hill, we need to keep our powder dry, etc., etc.,.

42 While I agree with you Kratos, did they have to say it out loud?

43 Err, add ".....Working Families" there.

44 Because as implausible as the advisory board story is, it's even more implausible that he was offered a job he wasn't legally eligible for.

Posted by: DrewM. at May 28, 2010 01:24 PM (X/Lqh)

Drew, according to that link he becomes eligible to be SECNAV on July 23rd of this year.  I'm not saying that it happened but it is plausible Odipshit could have told him to leave the primary and he could be appointed once he is eligible.  He would only have to sit tight in Congress for a year or so,.

45 You're just being obstructive and mean.  This is not the time to fight, we don't want to die on this hill, we need to keep our powder dry, etc., etc.,.

Posted by: Dang Straights at May 28, 2010 01:27 PM (fx8sm)

Sadly, that is exactly what the GOP is going to do about this.  They'll let Toomey twist in the wind in order to not attack Sestak or the White House over this.

46

Contrary to the Drew's last post, the "unpaid" part of the offer is not important.

It will be impossible that WH counsel can argue that because it was unpaid it was not a thing of value.

A position in the Administration with authority to advise and influence policy, working at the highest levels of government with access to the President cannot, in any sense, be considered of no value.

If it was of no value, why was it offered by a former President?

If it was of no value, why did the WH ask for a favor in return--dropping out of the race? (that's consideration.)

 

 

47 Sestak being ambushed now and he is running from them.

48

Either this is pure crap and/or Sestak was overstating the whole thing from the beginning.

It's pure crap, regardless. The Zero thought Sestack had a good shot at winning the primary against their lapdog, so they offered him a nothing advisory position? Shit, that would be little more than an insult. Either they did insult him, and he lied about the "important position", or they did offer him a real job and they are now all coordinating their lies in hopes of weathering the storm born of their own inept mistakes. If Sestack is full of shit, and Zero throws him to the wolves, then they lose the seat. They are between a rock and a hard spot, and are flailing in all directions and hoping to survive the controversy. If Sestack lied, Zero should mitigate his political damage and throw him to the wolves. The loss of the seat would be less damaging than the controversy is to Zero.

Either way, Zero has fucked that poor chicken again.

49

So he nobly turned down an unpaid gig?

Nominate Sestak for the Profiles in Courage award!

Jerk.

50

Umm....Drew...that 5 year waiting period for Sestak to be SecNav is up this coming July...

...so...umm..how does that make the offer implausible???..

You seriously think he wouldn't wait a few months???

51 By the way, whoever calls an unpaid, appointed position "A Job."

This stinks...bad.

52 Just got a call, got to go.

53

Shouldn't PETA be chiming in here?

Lots of decapitated horse heads going around....

54

it's even more implausible that he was offered a job he wasn't legally eligible for.

And the administration wouldn't shove through a change in the law to accomodate the perfect candidate who was being wronged by the this evil, nasty, uneccessary and outdated law?

55 When are these guys ever going to learn?  it's not the crime that gets you, it's the cover-up...

56

Because as implausible as the advisory board story is, it's even more implausible that he was offered a job he wasn't legally eligible for.

Posted by: DrewM. at May 28, 2010 01:24 PM (X/Lqh)

LOL.  Ineligible?  You're kidding, right?  I never knew you to care about eligibility in our government officials.  Shrillary isn't allowed to be SecState, since she votted on a raise for the position, but she's there.  And you and the rest of the squishes get incensed and appalled anytime Constitutional eligibility of the Precedent (and the unreal joke that you think dual citizens are natural born citizens) is even mentioned.

And, now, you're into eligibility.  Okey doke.

57 Sestak got into the primary a year ago, so no, I don't think he was going to get out of a race for the promise of a job in a year.

It would have been a major problem for the administration to leave that spot open for over a year.

58 49 Sestak being ambushed now and he is running from them.

Posted by: Vic at May 28, 2010 01:29 PM (6taRI)

We love this shit.

59 Boy howdy!  I plugged her hole.

60

Issa's statement is pretty damn good.  He got alot invested in this now and is tasting blood - he's not going to let this thing just go away.

 

61 ok, i am starting to think Erick Erickson doesn't have anything. He said he would post the info in a "couple" of hours. that was like 6 hours ago.

62 OT but did anyone hear the oil worker on the radio today?  He said that they aren't shutting down exploratory wells in the Gulf of Mexico. They are shutting down ALL wells in the Gulf and there will be a lot of "displaced workers"

63

#54 Shouldn't PETA be chiming in here?

Lots of decapitated horse heads going around....

Seriously? They haven't even commented on the poor chicken!

64

I think it's quaint that anyone would think that some silly paw about eligibility would keep this America-hating junta from putting someone in there.  This is the gang that pushed reconciliation when it was clearly against the rules.  They tried to have deem and pass.  They are led by an ineligible douchebag, with an ineligible shithead at State.

Yeah ... little things like laws would really stop this gang ....

65

IT BEGINS. Where is monty or PA?

Spain loses its AAA rating.

66 43 While I agree with you Kratos, did they have to say it out loud?

They couldn't help themselves. 

 

67 "Chinese telephone defense", does not absolve the govt. from the crime.

68

As has been pointed out be others. If it was some menial little advisory board job why would you have an ex president get involved with something so minor if it was in fact minor? Also do you really think they would have offered something so little to get him to drop out of the senate race? Hey if you drop out of the senate race I will give you a pack of gum and some DVD's I was going to give to the Brits? Uuuum O.K. Deal!

What utter bullshit. Either way if there story is even slightly true it's still illegal. Will anyone pay? Probably not, Oh some minion will chew some bus tire but that will be it. The MFM will continue blow Odumbo and co.

69 BTW- Ray Mabus was nominated for the SecNav gig on March 28th.

Sestak didn't announce he was getting into the race until May 27th.

It will depend on when the conversation with Clinton was had.

70 58 Sestak got into the primary a year ago, so no, I don't think he was going to get out of a race for the promise of a job in a year.

It would have been a major problem for the administration to leave that spot open for over a year.

Posted by: DrewM. at May 28, 2010 01:33 PM (X/Lqh)

Well Drew, he did turn them down. Also, they could have filled it with someone to hold it for a while until he was eligible, who knows.

No matter what, what was done is illegal. 

71

O/T -- Attn Virginia Morons  VA AG Ken Cuccinelli is holding a Townhall Webcast to provide an update on our Obamacare lawsuit.  It's free, but you have to register. http://tinyurl.com/34uffh4

 

72 Wait, is Sestak actually running away?  Or is that a figure of speech?  Dude was a frickin ADMIRAL... how the hell can he run away?

73

IT BEGINS. Where is monty or PA?

Spain loses its AAA rating.

Posted by: Ben at May 28, 2010 01:35 PM (wuv1c)

The funny part is that Spain is still getting a great deal on its debt, even with the lowered rating.  They aren't even close to a reasonable assessment of Spain's fiscal condition.

74 Heh, my 82 year old dad calls him Congressman Shitsack.  It's catchy.

75
Nice to see at least my legacy is alive and well.

76 "Fitch Just Downgraded Spain, Stocks Getting Hammered"

77 Just a rehash of what Sestak actually said via the Philadelphia Inquirer(through LexisNexis):





"Were you ever offered a federal job to get out of this race?" Kane asked near the end of the 30-minute interview.

"Yes," Sestak answered.

"Was it Navy secretary?" Kane asked.

"No comment," Sestak replied.

In response to follow-up questions from the host, Sestak said the job was offered by the White House. He also nodded when asked if the offer was for a high-ranking post.

78 PIGS

79

Will the executive branch have any respectability after this...person...is through with it?

The legislative are already mud in a lot of people's eyes; the judicial is trying really hard to get there; and this bozo is doing a great job of it with the executive...what happens when all three branches of the government are held in contempt by the public?

80

36 - The diehard democrats will stick by their man, no doubt. Sestak's problem in PA is the independents. The ring of suburban counties are populated with a lot of independent voters who at the moment are none too pleased with 0bama Inc. Also, PA's main radio market has one conservative host who packs quite a punch, he will waste no time in trying to get Sestak on air to address the issues this latest revelation brings up. And if Sestak dodges, he'll be painted as a weasel. And if he goes on air to discuss the matter, his weaselwords will be forever on the record to be further considered.

Look to Joe Sestak and brother to run a dirty dirty campaign, they're going to try and smear Toomey to deflect this attention from themselves.

81 The cover up is always worse than the crime...

82 Former Atty Gen Murkaskey (sp?) says that it's only illegal if the position being offered was enacted by congress.  So just some sort of little presidential advisory board created by an executive order doesn't count.

But why offer Sestak something that is unattractive or of no real profile or prestige?  Doesn't add up.

83 No matter what, what was done is illegal.

Maybe, maybe not.

Megyn Kelly is interviewing former Atty General Michael Mukassy and he's not sold on the applicability of some of these statutes to the facts as laid out at this point.

Granted it's not the final world but it's not a slam dunk.

Guess we need an investigation to find out.

84 83 Former Atty Gen Murkaskey (sp?) says that it's only illegal if the position being offered was enacted by congress.

AG Murkasky is confused.

85 Now that we have established Sleazstack to be a liar, how about those Navy discharge papers? Probably hidden with Odingos college transcripts by now.

86 three house in Louisiana, 5 hours a day for golf?????

87 "Guess we need an investigation to find out."

Oooh oooh, pick me!  Pick me!  I'm very modestly fantastic and awesomely humbly good at investigating stuff and shit!

88 WERKIN FAMILIES!

89 It's soooo galling that the Democrats and the media think we are that stupid!  They are all such a bunch of lying, incompetent, venal, arrogant a-holes!  I think initially, the White House was hoping all this hullabaloo would die down and go away.  When it didn't, they went into panic mode and had to come up with this cockamanie story.  Because Obama and his peeps have absolutely no clue as to proper protocol (due to their own hubris, they think they know everything and can do anything), they probably did offer Sestack the Sec Nav position not knowing he wasn't eligible yet.  He probably knew, and that's probably why he turned it down.  (Maybe thought he could get it back if he lost the primary against Spector--ie blackmail).  This crap is what you get when you've got a Chicago thug who thinks he is above the law as President.  We are sooo screwed, and the media is going to push the Obama meme--nothing to see here, just an unpaid advisory position, keep moving on.  Geez, I hate these people.  Obama is getting away with so much malfeasance.  Can you imagine if George Bush would have offered Toomey some kind of "unpaid advisory position" to get out of the primary with Spector (before he switched parties).  Yeah, me too.

90 Barry is now in Bill's back-pocket.

91 Guess we need an investigation to find out.

Posted by: DrewM. at May 28, 2010 01:45 PM (X/Lqh)

Like we had an investigation of the Indonesian Imbecile's old Senate seat as it was on the auction block.  Rahm Emanuel was known to be part of that but no one ever saw fit to ask him anything.  And we all know that The Precedent was pushing his dipshit friend, Val, for the seat ... but, guess what?  Everyone involved just cruised on in the White House and nothing else was done or looked at.

92 I had too much iced tea, and was in the bathroom when this job was discussed.

93 28 Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 28, 2010 01:18 PM (cniXs)

Because as implausible as the advisory board story is, it's even more implausible that he was offered a job he wasn't legally eligible for.

Posted by: DrewM. at May 28, 2010 01:24 PM (X/Lqh)

Well Drew based on the incompetence of the administration I could see them doing it and not realizing the waiting period.  And Sestak knowing about the waiting period turned it down because he knew he was ineligible.

94

Barry is now in Bill's front back-pocket.

 

 

FIFY!

95 Some one needs to convene a grand jury just to get the statements of all parties involved under oath. You can lie to the media with impunity and that is not a crime. Lying to a grand jury is a whole different matter and I wonder if Sestak (a Naval Academy grad and Admiral) is willing to do that. If he is willing, its time to start looking for pictures of live boys or dead girls.

96 Posted by: buzzion at May 28, 2010 01:50 PM (oVQFe)

That would be hysterical.

And scary.

97 So is being on a Presidential Board considered a high ranking post (for a sitting Congressman, that is)?

98

Lying to a grand jury is a whole different matter and I wonder if Sestak (a Naval Academy grad and Admiral) is willing to do that

 

Heh! Heh, if not, he's a piker!

99 So this is what it's like to live in Zimbabwe. Openly corrupt government, a third world economy, and government employees making more than private sector employees.
The collapse can't come soon enough.

100

Drew - why would you necessarily think Rahm knew that Sestak was ineligible to be SecNav?  And even if he did, believe me, there are all sorts of ways to stash people for a few months until they are technically eligible for the job. 

And Geraghty unearthed an old article today from November of 2008 speculating about Sestak running against Specter.  It was no big secret that he wanted the Senate seat badly, and after Obama won PA so big it looked like 2010 would be a good year to knock off Specter.  His official announcement in May was merely a formality. 

Do you really think any of this passes the smell test?  Do you think anyone who knows Sestak as well as Clinton would have even talked to him in passing about a BS advisory panel position and think that would be enough to entice him to drop out of the race?

101 98 Posted by: buzzion at May 28, 2010 01:50 PM (oVQFe)

That would be hysterical.

And scary.

Posted by: DrewM. at May 28, 2010 01:52 PM (X/Lqh)

and somewhat believable too right?

102 The job wasn't enacted by an Act of Congress job is total BS.

The law states:
provided for or made possible in whole or in part by any Act of Congress


Even some BS Board cerated by the president is paid for by an Act of Congress, the Budget Act. ANYTHING related to the executive  branch is in someway or another is provided for or made possible in whole or in part by any Act of Congress.

This was a crime, plain and simple.

103 Will Folks is always a top. NEVER a middleman.

Posted by: Will Folks at May 28, 2010 01:17 PM (u+34p)

Have you looked in the mirror lately, Will?  You have "bottom" written all over your skanky face dude!

104

92 Like we had an investigation of the Indonesian Imbecile's old Senate seat as it was on the auction block.  Rahm Emanuel was known to be part of that but no one ever saw fit to ask him anything.  And we all know that The Precedent was pushing his dipshit friend, Val, for the seat ... but, guess what?  Everyone involved just cruised on in the White House and nothing else was done or looked at.

 

The Blago trial is about to start in Illinois, the US senate seat is part of that whole mess.  Valerie Jarrett withdrew her name and Blago ended up selecting the excreable Roland Burris, and it would be racist to say anything bad about him.

Jesse Jackson Jr.'s name was mentioned as being part of the crowd that wanted to buy that senate seat, get your popcorn before the show.

105 Makes one wonder if this kind of gerrymandering will alienate any of the democrat primary voters who, apparently, couldn't be trusted to pick the right candidate.  The true believers will never stray, but there has to be at least one layer of the onion that peels off, doesn't there?

106 Hey morons, Sestak's going along w/ the story for the exact same reason the press, courts, Congress et al. have been pretending Hussein's a natural born citizen.  It was coolly explained to him that if he told the truth he would bring about the destruction of the first black president and the ensuing riots and deaths that would follow would be all his fault.

107

Gay Patriot posits this retorical question:

Will Bill Clinton or Rahm Emanuel be a fall guy and go to jail for Barack Obama?

Get your popcorn, boys and girls!  Not to mention, Blago--I don't see him going to jail for Teh Won, no matter how much he's paid (although, I could be wrong on that one!)  Would Slick Willy go to jail so that Obama doesn't run in 2012--"I've decided that I need to spend more time with my family.  My girls are growing up so quickly, and I know I will never get those moments back..." so Hillary can be the next annointed one?  How would Billy Jeff be able to be part of the "2 for 1" deal if he's incarcerated in prison?  I know O.J. has it going on behind bars, but I don't think Bill would go to jail just to advance Hillary's political career--although I suppose she could pardon him.  Hmmmm......

108 Dow going down faster than your New Jersey prom date.

109 Honestly, I'm surprised it took this long for Sestak to fall into line and for them to get their stories straight.

110

Have you looked in the mirror lately, Will?  You have "bottom" written all over your skanky face dude!

 

True dat!  Will Folkes is Teh Bottom Bitch.

111

Regardless of what President Clinton or Congressman Sestak now say, it is abundantly clear that this kind of conduct is contrary to President Obama’s pledge to change ‘business as usual’ and that his Administration has engaged in the kind of political shenanigans he once campaigned to end.”

Thar was beautiful man...just beautiful.

 

 

112 Bring out Clinton's old cabinet to say they believe this. Worked for the Lewinsky lies.

113 Interesting that Obama goes to Louisiana today for an oil-soaked photo op, while all this crap is coming out.  He's a smarmy little coward.

114 If Barry pulls this off, Sheriff Joe will have to go, to make room for Vice President Hillary.

115

 Dow going down faster than your New Jersey prom date.

 

 

I'd like to give a shout out to Spain Medicine Hat!

116

I see that Spain's credit rating just got kneecapped. Gee, maybe taking on mounds of toxic debt from a bunch of massive, crooked, and negligent banks might have something to do with it.

Good work on the timing though. No-one in New York cares about finance the afternoon before a three day summer weekend

117 Posted by: runningrn at May 28, 2010 02:00 PM (CfmlF)

that's the guy with the big hair who was on the apprentice, I could not remember his name.

anyway, I've been really working and working and working?  Maybe you can help me out?   I heard the prez was going to be subpoenaed in this case, was he?  Cause if he was is it possible he went to chicago to give a deposition in the case?

118 For four months, Sestak says he answered honestly. I think it's safe to assume that 'honestly' doesn't mean what he thinks it does.

119 It might have taken them so long to craft this story because it actually IS true. Bear with me for a moment... Suppose the White House spent the last few months (when it was clear that Sestak was a serious threat) offering him everything under the sun to drop out, play possum, whatever... When the story was broken (by Sestak's own words), they knew they were screwed. So they spent the last few weeks/months cleaning up anything that would reveal their recent appeals to Sestak. Then, they remembered back when Sestak was less credible a candidate and they had Billy Boy reach out to him with a weak offer to get the game rolling. They were familiar with each other, and had worked in politics together, so it was a neat fit. I want a reporter to ask if these revelations about Bubba are the ONLY conversations ever had. It's a perjury trap if asked in the right venue, because I know these weasels wouldn't have stopped weaseling after last summer.

120
funny how it takes all sorts of time and effort to get the story straight.

121 Erick Erickson is a dick.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at May 28, 2010 02:03 PM (HfesM)

Seriously, apparently he doesn't have shit of Folks. Bad play, very bad.

Your opinions aren't facts Eric, no matter how informed they are.

122

Now that we have established Sleazstack to be a liar, how about those Navy discharge papers? Probably hidden with Odingos college transcripts by now.

How do you think they got Joey-Boy to step in line?

And by the way Congressman Sestak, ALL of us are PA's working families, except you and your political class ilk.

123 Nobody is going to prison over this and there won't be any grand jury.  This might help Toomey beat the douchebag though.

124

Interesting that Obama goes to Louisiana today for an oil-soaked photo op, while all this crap is coming out.  He's a smarmy little coward.

 

Rush pointed out that he's scheduled for a 3 hour meet and greet with locals, and that the NY Times had an article that stated Obama's average round of golf takes 5 hours. 

125

So he called an unpaid advisory board seat a "high ranking job?"

Wow, talk about a brazen implication.  He should be embarassed. 

126 109Will Bill Clinton or Rahm Emanuel be a fall guy and go to jail for Barack Obama?

This is going no further. They've got their story and will stick to it. Yeah, that's it, an unpaid advisory position. Yeah, that's the ticket.

127 Dang sock!

128

I AM SO HAPPY THAT THE TRAITOR ARLEN CAUSED THIS DOMINO EFFECT OF A MAJOR SHITSTORM IN PA'S SENATE RACE.

Well, a shitstorm for the dems, anyway.

Everybody have a great Memorial Day Weekend!

129 If Sestak wins election, this association with corruption will define his career as a politician. He should fit right in.

130 Posted by: Lemon Kitten at May 28, 2010 02:05 PM (0fzsA)

My mom used to tell us kids to always tell the truth.  She would say "always tell the truth.  When you lie, you have to have a good memory and you kids don't have good memories but the truth is the truth, you always remember it, so don't lie"

131

progressoverpeace: Fitch probably knows that.

It'll take a week or so to shake out the repercussions of this "downding". If the Spaniards do a Greece and riot for their free stuff back, then Fitch will downding them some more.

132 This is going no further. They've got their story and will stick to it. Yeah, that's it, an unpaid advisory position. Yeah, that's the ticket.

Posted by: kansas at May 28, 2010 02:06 PM (mka2b)

That's fine. Being unpaid doesn't change a thing. Rahm at the very least is toast. Slick Willy can claim he was doing nothing more than delivering a message  and Sestak already backs that up.

133 Yeah, this is bullshit.  Sestak would have been offered the SecNavy job at the earliest opportunity (like, after the 2010 election) when the current occupant would have retired to spend more time with his family.

134 The democrats sure were this understanding when GWB's administration fired those AGs, even though it was completely and legally within his discretion to fire any one of them he wanted to fire.

Yep, the dems sure were even handed about that!

135

I heard the prez was going to be subpoenaed in this case, was he?  Cause if he was is it possible he went to chicago to give a deposition in the case?

 

I thought a judge ruled that Teh Bamster couldn't be subpoenaed but I could be wrong.  If Reagan was the "Teflon" president, Obama put the "O" and the "A" in BAM--(the substance that's slicker than teflon).  I keep waiting for the hand of God and justice to catch up with him, but I'm not holding my breath.

136 Streaming radio audio feeds are awesome.  Allows one to listen to Rush under the noses of his "progressive" workmates.

Rush is going off about Sestak now.  Said that a Democrat is only concerned about non-working people.

137 I just sent Issa an email and told him to keep the pressure on. I don't live in California, but what the hell, it's worth a try. If any morons on here live in his district, send him a note. Now if he could find anyone on his side of the aisle who had any balls whatsoever to really get onto this thing, he might get something going. What a bunch of absolute bullshit from the White House. They know that the majority of people are just dumb enough to accept this explanation and go to the beach.

138 Is Erickson waiting till the end of the day to announce who's paying Folks?

139 Plan A: Nice family you've got their Sestak. It would be a shame if something happened to it.

Plan B: William (Slick Willie) Clinton apparently misunderstood Mr. Emanuel's instructions and made an offer, that Sestak refused, that he had no controlling authority to offer.

Since Mr. Clinton still has ambitions of seeing his wife, Hillary Rodham-Clinton, as the Democrat nominee in 2012 for President, we can understand his reasons for exceeding the limits placed by the Chief of Staff.

Plan C:  LOOK; BUNNIES!!!

140 110 Dow going down faster than your New Jersey prom date.

Posted by: CUS at May 28, 2010 02:01 PM (wOGfT)

Hey..HEY, my wife was my prom date!!!!

 

 

141 Ten. Weeks.

142 Our political elites actually think "We the People" are idiots

Not really I think; I think they know no one is going to buy this BS, no matter how the MFM sells it. I think at this point, looking at the tar baby that they caught themselves in, just taking the political hit and crafting a scenario that avoids prosecution and or impeachment was the goal. Polls slide? Oh well they were losing anyway. The best thing is to just put out a simple, legally safe, story that avoids legal ramifications, and is otherwise impossible to tear apart, acknowledge the voters will understand it is BS and watch the polls dip a few points and hope they forget by 2012.

143 Some good news today.

144

126 Nobody is going to prison over this and there won't be any grand jury

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at May 28, 2010 02:06 PM (ZESU0)

Dood, why you gotta harsh my buzz?

 

145

dude fucking red state.

he has nothing? it was all a ploy?

dear lord.

146 Arrrrrgh.

147 Posted by: runningrn at May 28, 2010 02:10 PM (CfmlF)

I was surprised to hear he wanted "to sleep in his own bed" cause I thought they bought all that stuff with them to the family quarters.  And, he is only really spending one night there. 

148 Clinton is a grandmaster politico, the whole reason for inserting Hillary! into the Whitehouse .....


.. two bishop checkmate.

149

Sestak got into the primary a year ago, so no, I don't think he was going to get out of a race for the promise of a job in a year.

Sestak already has a job that he's not likely to get laid off from. The SECNAV job wasn't open. Mabus was appointed last March.

This only lends more rationale as to why Sestak might have declined.

Drew..from which left wing blog did you crib the line that Sestak was not eligible?

150 I apologize if you were offended that I bribed Congressman Sestak. It was not my intention to offend you in any way by offering a government position to Congressman Sestak so as to subvert the democratic process.

151

Can someone, some day splain to me why Eric from Red State is persona-non-grata round here? (besides the CNN thing)

 

152 After all, we are not communists.

153 BTW, Clinton is gold here. They can't get him for crap.

He said that White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel had spoken with him about my being on a Presidential Board while remaining in the House of Representatives. I said no.

Clinton did nothing but realy what was said by Rahm. He made no offer or solicitation to Sestak. Rahm is totally toast here. The question is are we supposed to believe Obama had no knowledge of this? It's not like Rahm can appoint people as presidential advisers.

154 If Barry hadn't been focused laser-like on creating jobs, none of this would have happened.

155

Is Erickson waiting till the end of the day to announce who's paying Folks?

no. he's got nothing. He was just being a douchebag.

156 OMG, rush just played hillary saying that Brazil is thriving and they have the highest tax to GDP rate and they are thriving and the rich are getting richer and pulling people out of poverty".

what??????

a few economics classes may be in order but then again is that the bastion of the secretary of state?

157

Can someone, some day splain to me why Eric from Red State is persona-non-grata round here? (besides the CNN thing)

 

Posted by: dananjcon at May 28, 2010 02:18 PM (pr+up)

Because he's a douche and a mental midget?

I can't speak for anyone else, but that's what does it for me.

158

He basically strung everyone along to show how dumb it was of everyone to allow Folks to do the same.


I haven't been following the Redstate thing (in general I don't like the site or the owner), but if this is true, and the premeditated purpose of this "Tune in next time" maneuver, then I applaud the excellent pranksmanship.

Kudos, to you RS Douchebag!

159 obama, sestak, clinton, rahm:  You Lie!

Now that thats out of the way, we cannot forget this, it is just as incriminating or more:

Jim Messina, President Barack Obama's deputy chief of staff and a storied fixer in the White House political shop, suggested a place for Romanoff might be found in the administration and offered specific suggestions, according to several sources who described the communication to The Denver Post.

160 Lets not have any of that Birther nonsense again. Gov. Lingle, a Republican, said she personally instructed the head of the Dept of Health, a physician, to pull the original long form birth certificate for Obama and report back to her so she could sign off on a Senate Bill that allowed the FOIA to be ignored in the case of requests for Obama's Birth Certificate, a quasi-privileged document under any case. Gov Lingle reported to the public that the Birth Certificate was properly dated, executed, witnessed. Obama was born in Hawaii, at Kapiolani Women and Childrens Hospital, fully attended to by staff, on the date given.

161

Can someone, some day splain to me why Eric from Red State is persona-non-grata round here? (besides the CNN thing)

i don't hate him. He does get a lot of inside info within the republican party, but stuff like this that is just a waste of time.

162 Because as implausible as the advisory board story is, it's even more implausible that he was offered a job he wasn't legally eligible for. Oh I don't know, we are talking about a guy who thought an Ipod was an appropriate gift for the Queen of England after all

163 Clinton: "... it depends on what the definition of 'jobs' is."

164 Erick Ericson's credibility is now somewhere around Will Folks' to me now.  He did the very thing he castigated Folks for doing - stringing his readers along, claiming to have proof of wrongdoing, and now he comes out and says he only has speculation and opinion.

Not the right way to go about getting to the truth, Erick.

165

Because he's a douche and a mental midget?

You are seriously being way too kind to that fuckstick

166

Posted by: pat at May 28, 2010 02:20 PM (2SMje)

Huh? Are you just practicing being stupid, or are you a professional?

167 Erick Ericson's credibility is now somewhere around Will Folks' to me now.  He did the very thing he castigated Folks for doing - stringing his readers along, claiming to have proof of wrongdoing, and now he comes out and says he only has speculation and opinion.

Not the right way to go about getting to the truth, Erick.

Posted by: Intrepid at May 28, 2010 02:22 PM (92zkk)

H claims that was the point. To show how low Folks is. So, the way to do that is climb in the gutter too? Hell at least Folks has some ambiguous text messages, phone records and a picture. Eric has crap. Never hated him but this is a very LGF kind of move. Totally lame.

168

I thought a judge ruled that Teh Bamster couldn't be subpoenaed but I could be wrong.  If Reagan was the "Teflon" president, Obama put the "O" and the "A" in BAM--(the substance that's slicker than teflon).  I keep waiting for the hand of God and justice to catch up with him, but I'm not holding my breath.

Posted by: runningrn at May 28, 2010 02:10 PM (CfmlF)

Yeah pretty sure the judged nixed the idea of getting any testimony from Obama, even recorded testimony.

169

The timing of the 2 statements (bullshit) is impeccable.     I wonder what happens when the phone records are subpeonad.  

This is the cover up of a felony.

170 pat,

Tell the truth, you had that already written out, didn't you?

171 Drew..from which left wing blog did you crib the line that Sestak was not eligible?
Posted by: beedubya at May 28, 2010 02:17 PM (AnTyA)

I love people who when confronted with something that doesn't conform to their pre-existing concepts accuse the heretic of using left wing sources. You can follow the link I gave or this one to the law itself.

Now, if you want a left wing view of it, check out Dave Weigel in the Post. He has an interesting timeline.....

On March 27, 2009, the administration nominated Ray Mabus as secretary of the Navy. It wasn't until April 28 that Specter became a Democrat, and by Sestak's own recollection, he was literally being courted to run the day that news broke. On May 18, the Senate confirmed Mabus. And on May 29, Sestak entered the Senate race.

Maybe Obama offered him a job he wouldn't be eligible for or was willing to push Maubus out of the job a year latter. All of that strikes me as unlikely as the official White House version. Seems to me there's a 3rd option out there.

172 This just in  Rahm Emanuel spotted at Pennsylvania fish market.

173 165.  Amen Pat.  My problem has always been the refusal to disclose ANY information about his past.  I bet a big chunk of people lumped in as birthers feel the same.  So can we coin a new term like disclosurists for us?

174

pat 165, I was anti-birther even before Charles Johnson was.

The case against Obama's eligibility concerns whether Obama is a dual citizen, specifically of Indonesia. That has nothing to do with conspiracy theories about Obama's birthplace or parentage.

175 See, the funny thing about Sandy Burger is that he's always forgetting things like where he's placed documents. We used to joke about it all the time. I remember going by his office and seeing that messy desk and thinking some of those documents could just wind up in his socks, he's so absent minded! Har har har!

176 @173 "He claims that was the point. To show how low Folks is. So, the way to do that is climb in the gutter too? Hell at least Folks has some ambiguous text messages, phone records and a picture. Eric has crap. Never hated him but this is a very LGF kind of move. Totally lame."

Yep, I agree.  And from the comments over at RedState, his readers aren't too happy with him either, at least half of them aren't.  He had quite a few blogs following him yesterday with updates on what he could possibly have, proof wise.  Either he has no more, which would completely confirm that this was an ill-advised tactic, or he has more coming down the pike, which would redeem his credibility a bit.  But he's still lost readers.

177

pat sounds like someone who has drunk deeply from the well of the anti-Birther's hallowed ground of Red State.

(BTW, I think he was born in HI but it doesn't matter, he wasn't raised in AMerica, and thus fundamentally does not share American values.)

178 Slestak lied. Obama lied. Clinton lied.

But I think it will take a mountain of irrefutable evidence and a very serious felony to get an affirmative action Precedent out of office.
The proverbial dead woman or live boy in the bed.

But as pressure mounts on Obama from all these little fuck-ups, he will split open like a pinata and cry like an eight year old kid with a skint knee. Obama's psyche is made of glass.

179

pat sounds like someone who has drunk deeply from the well of the anti-Birther's hallowed ground of Red State.

Uh no, he can intellectually run rings around you.  Way to make your arguments too, via personal attacks rather then reasoned disagreement.

180 Seriously?  That's what Red State did? 

Total douchebaggery.  I kinda got that vibe reading yesterday, but though, "No - they're not that childish and stoopid."

Well, apparently they are.

181

ATTENTION DUMB FUCKS WHO ARE SLOW ON THE UPTAKE.

Imagine you are a 3 STAR ADMIRAL.   Pretty cool, very powerful and full of perks.   BillyJeff Clinton likes your LIBTARD JIB.  You are the man.

Bush basically SHIT CAN'S your worthless candy ass.

You become a CONGRESSMAN.  Many perks, nice pay and bennies, 2 retirement checks.   The world is pretty sweet.

You decide that SENATOR is much cooler and more EXCLUSIVE.  It's a CLUB. 

Obama wants you to step aside.   He sends Billy Jeff Clinton with a very very nice offer of UNPAID ADVISOR, no desk, no phone, no cash, no perks.  No salary, no chix, at some meeting you sit next to the mail room kid who smells like cheetos.

 

MY BULLSHIT DETECTOR IS ON FIRE.

182 Barry is Post-American, whatever the circumstances of his conception, and still has not captured the tallest man in Pokestahn.

183

Post #188 wins the coveted "post of the day" award.

Sestak's comment is a joke. This Friday was exactly the right time to air it; he knows no normal people are listening.

184 what the hell is "pat" talking about.  WTF does Sestak and the Missing Job have to do with Obama's long form birth certificate? 

Did somebody place an order for random non-sequiturs and john Ryan was too busy?

185

I am still waiting for someone to explain how this administration would give a shit about whether anyone was eligible for a position, or not, when we all know that Shrillary was NOT eligible to be SecState and they ignored that.

I don't expect Drew to answer this, since ever since he threw that hissy fit he's refused to respond to my comments.  No big loss ... just an annoying pain, though.

186

WTF?!  Since when can a president SHUT down an entire industry?  Who is this? Hugo Chavez? Castro?  My GOD.

The sad thing is, these pawns working out there probably assume they'll get paid for quitting.  BP owez us!

 

Sad.  I think we may have missed the opportunity to rise up.  Its too late now.  When something catastrophic happens now,  people get rewarded for it.  Its no longer bad.  People sit around now hoping they get offended or ruined... so they can get paid.  Thats called ass-backwards.  Drive into the wall and get healthy.

We're done folks. 

187

Strange that Bams would have Clinton handle this--knowing that Hillary would like to be president sooner than later.  Clinton is not known for being a Nice Guy.

 

Did the Clenis screw this up on purpose?

188 I would love to know what Ace is thinking about all of this.

189 Wow.  I always knew there was rampant corruption in Government, but the White House has truly become a 'house of ill repute'.....

190

 A Balrog of Morgoth at May 28, 2010 02:40 PM (ZESU0)

Try someone mentioned it up thread.

191 I know, I know, Ace is with a beautiful, intelligent, funny cable babe on some secluded desert island, without his phone or his computer..... lucky duck....

192

Balrog #191, pat was responding to some of the comments in this thread, not to this topic. The various comments about Spain's economy joining its old Armada at the bottom of the Atlantic were, also, off topic.

I denounce myself for ever saying anything off topic on an Ace comment thread.

193 So what I'm gathering is that this is all immoral and illegal and should never be allowed to happen...when a Republican is involved.

194 somthing is definitely wrong with the keyboard....desert = deserted....secluded.....beautiful.....tropical....

i'm so jealous

195

I'LL  SPEAK VERY LOUDLY SO EVERYONE CAN SEE HOW HONEST AND FILLED WITH INTEGRITY I AM.

THE BRIBE I WAS OFFERED WAS AN UNPAID BRIBE.  NO PAY FOR ME.  NO VALUE IF YOU WILL.

COINCIDENTALLY THE FEDERAL STATUTE LISTS ANYTHING OF "VALUE' AS BAD, NAUGHTY OR FELONIOUS.

THE WHITE HOUSE ATTORNIES HAVE NOW REMINDED ME OF THE LACK OF "VALUE" THAT THE BRIBE INCLUDED AND I AM NOW IN FULL AGREEMENT WITH THEM..

THIS HAS ALL BEEN A BIG MISUNDERSTANDING.   THE JOB OF NON-VALUE WAS ENTICING, BUT MY INTEGRITY IS FAR MORE IMPORTANT TO ME AND MY FRIEND BILLY J. CLINTON.

I AM TELLING THE TRUTH EXACTLY AS IT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME.

NOW I CAN HELP THE HARDWORKING MIDDLE CLASS FAMILIES OF PENNSYLVANIA FIND NON-PAYING JOBS TOO.

Sincerely Admiral Joe Sestak.

USS INTERGRITY.

196 O/T  Gary Coleman dead at 42.

197 Thanks re:pat.  I must have missed the birtherisms as I scrolled down.

198 "200 So what I'm gathering is that this is all immoral and illegal and should never be allowed to happen...when a Republican is involved.

Posted by: AmishDude at May 28, 2010 02:45 PM (T0NGe)"

Wow, a whole thread and you sum it up in two sentences....

199 This is not about anybody going to jail for something like this (besides the prez could pardon).  This is about creating the meme of the continued corruption of the obama administration and the democratic party and keeping it alive through the summer.  Its always the cover up that gets these guys, so I am glad they are going that route.  If Toomey isn't all over this over the weekend, he is crazy.

also Gary Coleman died.

200

 Slestak lied. Obama lied. Clinton lied.

 

 

YEAH, BUT BUSH LIED AND PEOPLE DIED!!11!!!11!!1111111111!!!!111111111!!!!!!!!1111111111111!!!!!

201

also Gary Coleman died.

 

Very sad.  R.I.P., Gary.

202
"203 O/T  Gary Coleman dead at 42.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 28, 2010 02:46 PM (UOM4"

wow, he is the second celebrity to fall and have to have major surgery....but bono they say is going to be ok.

203 If anybody else here reads the "Honor Harrington" series, what we've got here is basically the High Ridge government.

204

"What'syou talkin' about, Charon?!"

205 Posted by: Guy Fawkes at May 28, 2010 02:47 PM (7VvJB)

He won't be.  Politics is not the same anymore.  The republicans and the dems, though it drives some here crazy when I say it, seem like the same party to me and the growing number of other independents.  So, he'll kiss babies, go to parades, honor our vets but not mention sestak for one silly little minute.  I mean it would spoil his weekend.

206 My condolences to his family and friends. I loved Different Strokes.

207

 Slestak lied. Obama lied. Clinton lied.

 

 

YEAH, BUT BUSH LIED AND PEOPLE DIED!!11!!!11!!1111111111!!!!111111111!!!!!!!!1111111111111!!!!!

Posted by: runningrn at May 28, 2010 02:47 PM (CfmlF)

208

also Gary Coleman died.

Very sad.  R.I.P., Gary.

Posted by: runningrn at May 28, 2010 02:48 PM (CfmlF)

208 damned horrible formatting!!!

209

Posted by: pat at May 28, 2010 02:20 PM (2SMje)

I think Pat is the lateset in uber-sentient, leftist spam, trolls...very spooky. Protect your chillens Pat may be a soul crusher as well.

210

The Blago trial is about to start in Illinois

...and the jug-eared idiot's trip there is just coincidence..just like the lunch with Clinton yesterday was

211 Posted by: beedubya at May 28, 2010 02:54 PM (AnTyA)

Interesting coincidences...

everyone loved blago on the celebrity apprentice...he seems like a really genuine nice guy...

212

Can't believe Todd Bridges out lived Coleman.

Yeeesh.

 

213 wow, he is the second celebrity to fall and have to have major surgery....but bono they say is going to be ok.

More proof that God does not mete out justice in this world.

214

Garu Coleman knew too much. 

215

bbd,

no one can run intellectual rings around me.  Not even Joe Biden.

and posting ad hominems is meet, right, and proper when someone dumps a non-sequitur turn in the punchbowl like that.

I'm not trying to debate him.  I'm insulting him.

216

The Blago trial is about to start in Illinois

Hmmm....I was wondering why there was a shortage of popcorn and pudding cups here in the Land of Lincoln.

Beer.....check

Remote......check

Oh damn, its a federal trial, no live television here. Crap.

217 I know nothing!

218

216 I think Pat is the lateset in uber-sentient, leftist spam, trolls...very spooky.

He's not.  We just finally convinced him to post here, and some of you daytimers go out of your to prove what has been said on the ONT:  that a chunk of you can't make a coherent argument, all you do is fling shit.  Refer also to progressoverpeace shitting in his hands and throwing it at drew.

219

 

...the fuck?

Didn't see that coming.

220

I love people who when confronted with something that doesn't conform to their pre-existing concepts accuse the heretic of using left wing sources. You can follow the link I gave or this one to the law itself.

I didn't say the law didn't exist, nitwit. I'm referring to the idea that the job offer was implausible..or not possible,as you put it.. given that Sestak was not eligible ...yet. Even if it were offered to him as soon he announced his intention to join the race..his eligibility was just over a year away. And..he already had a job that was pretty fucking secure

Where does it say that Sestak was made the offer as soon as he decided to run? I haven't seen exactly when the transaction was offered, but the earliest I've seen it referred to was Feb

 

221

turn = turd @ my 3:00pm

222

Gary Coleman died.

Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, runningrn?? Seriously? He did?

223

well bbd, perhaps you should teach pat to give some fucking CONTEXT before saying "let's not start that Birther shit" on a post about Red State.

What is pat, your grandma?  Let him defend himself. 

"Finally convinced him to post" ... jeez, EVERYONE WATCH OUT FOR THE DELICATE GENUIS!

224

no one can run intellectual rings around me.  Not even Joe Biden.

I, on the other hand, can kill a man................with my mind.

YYYYEEEEAAAAHHHHH!

225 I'm a little surprised at Sestak here.  No, really.

Here is a guy who could be elected as an "independent Democrat".  He could have thrown the WH under the bus on this one.  Indies in PA love that sort of thing and every Dem under the sun will be running as far away from Obama as they can.

In MA, NJ, VA, etc., Obama has proven that he has very little drawing power.  All he really has is Democrat money and I'm not sure Sestak will get all that much of it.  Obama makes promises and then reneges, telling you that you'll take it and you'll like it.

Sestak is a cowardly little guy, taking the path of least resistance.  Murtha's seat wasn't won by somebody campaigning on being Obama's lapdog.

226

Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, runningrn?? Seriously? He did?

 

Head injury after falling, went into a coma and died.  Like Jane said, he was only 42. 

227

Truly sad about gary coleman, and it IS too soon, but how could a head injury have killed him?  He wasn't that high off the ground.

228

If thats all this is, why didn't B+arry just answer this yesterday? Why didn't Sestak just say 'I declined a non-paying panelist job in favor of a sweet Senate seat' from Day One™ 

They couldn't find someone that wasn't a convicted perjorer to carry their lie for them?

My B.S. meter needs to have a log scale because the linear one is pegged!

229 Doesn't matter.  The WH is telling the press: (1) Here's our story.  (2) If you don't dig deeper, no crimes were committed.  (3) It'll be old news by Tuesday.  (4) Shut up and cover Michelle's garden.

230

...and I see he's still getting a lot of mileage out of the PENNSYLVANIA WORKING FAMILIES phrase. Those three words strung together must have polled remarkably well in his focus groups.

Posted by: kallisto at May 28, 2010 01:20 PM (+FkcS)

 

Well, to be fair,

Union = (or could be) Pennsylvania Hard Working Families, too.

231 Here's my theory:  Bill Clinton set Obama up for a fall.

He probably came up with the whole idea and sold it to the Obama administration just to *&^% them over.  Clinton can't be prosecuted because he's just the messenger, no longer a government official and not the person who can give the position to Sestak in exchange for anything.

Then Hillary can step up in 2012 and pretend to be the Savior of the democrat party, taking the Presidency away from a discredited Obama.

232 OBAMA LIED, GARY COLEMAN DIED!!!

233 I'm not sure how this will work out, but it MUST be Bush's fault.

234

Drew, let me spell it out for you:

Specter didn't just decide one morning to announce he was a Democrat.  The White House courted him and planned the switch for a while, at least several weeks.  Part of the wooing was telling Specter they would "take care of" Sestak and clear the field for him so he would not have a primary.  Sestak was already known to be preparing a campaign, and David Plouffe is from PA and knows what kind of arrogant asshole he is.  He would have told Rahm and co. that Sestak would not get out of the race quietly, they would have to bribe him with something pretty big, like SecNav.  I'm guessing none of them knew Sestak was ineligible for the job, and that Sestak told them when they first approached him.  They may actually have tried to come up with some lame advisory panel job, but I doubt it.  I think they are making that part of it up out of whole cloth to make the whole thing appear legal.

Oh, and I'm also guessing that Arlen Specter knows all about how this went down, because it was one of the conditions of him switching parties in the first place.  He has no love for Sestak or Obama now, so I'm waiting for a reporter to finally ask him and see what he says.  He may end up being the guy that unravles the whole thing.

235

All I see after all this mess is Sestak in a stained blue dress.

(just the image I need going into the weekend...)

236

Oh, and I'm also guessing that Arlen Specter knows all about how this went down, because it was one of the conditions of him switching parties in the first place.  He has no love for Sestak or Obama now, so I'm waiting for a reporter to finally ask him and see what he says.

It'd have to be a Fox news reporter or Jack Tapper.  No one else is going to ask a question that could damage their loverboy so.

237 Forget it, Jake-it's Chinatown.

238 My take on it was that they totally abandoned Arlen, like he didn't exist.  Maybe Arlen was promised something?   Cause for a guy who was left hanging in the wind, he sure is being quiet for a guy who normally isn't quiet.

239 Fascinating how easy it is to cover up a bribe with another bribe.

Bill Clinton is still VERY popular in Pennsylvania (just ask Mark Critz) and the many campaign swings Slick Willie will do with Sestak this fall will more than buy the former Admiral's honor silence.

Brian O'Connor
www.RedDogReport.com

240

 My take on it was that they totally abandoned Arlen, like he didn't exist.  Maybe Arlen was promised something?   Cause for a guy who was left hanging in the wind, he sure is being quiet for a guy who normally isn't quiet.

I don't know.  If he starts speaking up doesn't he become an accomplice?  "They said they were going to keep Sestak out of the primary for me" meaning he would have knowledge of the attempted bribe.  Its all looks just so shady doesn't it.

241 Since Sestak was supposedly offered an "UNPAID" job, doesn't that still count as "interferring" in an election with the candidate selection?  Of the three laws they broke, which ones don't require money to change hands since, the unpaid position is one of POWER and INFLUENCE.

242 ...well I ain't got a witness, and I can't prove it -

But that's my story
And I'm stickin' to it.

243 Tomorrow's revision: Gary Coleman offered Sestak the deal.

244 Damn !! another misfire. Well one of these has to work

245 Who, other than a totally insane person, would want Slick Willie, O'Dumbo, or Sestak as a character witness?  All three are proven liars.

246

: Gary Coleman offered Sestak the deal.

Just what was Willis talkin' 'bout ??

...and was Coleman killed for it??

247 Well, make that February 2010.

248 Here's a nice summation of the stink.

249 Refer also to progressoverpeace shitting in his hands and throwing it at drew.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 28, 2010 03:01 PM (cniXs)

Enlighten me, boob.  You seem to have a problem understanding how debates go and what constitutes a reasonable argument. 

Nice imagery you use, though.  Very impressive.

250 Back for lunch. I read the Governor's statement in The Honolulu Advertiser. My home town paper. Since I happen  to know her, I have full confidence she is telling the truth.

251 Posted by: pat at May 28, 2010 06:01 PM (2SMje)

Who cares?  Where do you think anyone mentioned the birth certificate that you are babbling on about? 

And no one gives a shit if you know Lingle or anything of the sort.  You do understand that, don't you?

252 Who cares?

Sestak forged Barry's BC, or something.  I wasn't really following along.

253 Posted by: damian at May 28, 2010 06:07 PM (4WbTI)

As much as I can figure, pat saw me mention the joke of Drew talking about eligibility for a federal position and he just got kicked into anti-birth certificate mode.  Of course, my post talked about dual citizenship, not the birth certificate, so this just goes to how rabidly unhinged pat is about all this.

Of course, the birth certificate is still an issue, as it is so basic and important, and pat's ridiculous claim that "it's been checked" is too stupid to even bother with, but as far as I can tell, pat introduced the BC all on his own - for no real reason other than to do an Eric E. Erik Erickson impersonation.

254 progressoverpeace
You make it so clear why no one intelligence is here anymore.  As I have mentioned before, it is painful reading the comments here. Your silly anonymous nics apparently embolden you to be fools. Reason cannot penetrate the minds of idiots. And that is what you are. An idiot. I have no animus against you. I do not know who you are. But I do know this: you are a fool. And Ace has a website that is populated by such.
Whine and rage away.

255 Whine and rage away.

I laughed out loud.

256 264 I laughed out loud. Posted by: damian at May 29, 2010 08:23 AM (4WbTI)     As that loony frequently does for no particular reason. The maniacal cackling emanating from his home night and day scares the shit out of his neighbors 

257 Dude.

258 267 Dude. Duh!

Posted by: damian at May 29, 2010 11:57 AM (4WbTI)

259

210:  That is a clever analogy.  Obama = High Ridge, Axelrod = North Hollow.  Sestak would make a convincing Janacek.

I see the sequence going: 

(1) Sestak is offered SecNav in 2009.  Mabus will suddenly withdraw due to a "family emergency;"

(2) He says, I'm not even legally eligible until 2010.

(3) They say, OK we'll appoint you then.

(4) He says, thanks but no thanks.