June 02, 2010

Sheriff Joe: The Whole Flotilla Thing Isn't A Big F'ing Deal
— DrewM

You can quibble with his take on how much aid Israel lets in but for the most part, Joey B seems to get this one right.

"I think Israel has an absolute right to deal with its security interest. I put all this back on two things: one, Hamas, and, two, Israel's need to be more generous relative to the Palestinian people who are in trouble in Gaza," Biden said, according to a transcript of the interview, in which he went on to discuss Hamas's control of Gaza:

"[The Israelis have] said, 'Here you go. You're in the Mediterranean. This ship -- if you divert slightly north you can unload it and we'll get the stuff into Gaza.' So what's the big deal here? What's the big deal of insisting it go straight to Gaza? Well, it's legitimate for Israel to say, 'I don't know what's on that ship. These guys are dropping eight -- 3,000 rockets on my people,'" Biden said.

How bad is the Obama administration? Joe Biden seems to be the smart one.

Now this statement might be a big deal if it reflects a change in the administration's position. Yesterday Hillary Clinton and the US Ambassador at the UN struck a much more neutral line. At the White House, Gibbs said the UN statement reflected the President's take on the situation.

Of course, this could be Crazy Uncle Joe going off on his own. We'll see.

Posted by: DrewM at 01:08 PM | Comments (44)
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1 The Obama Administration coming down on the side of Western civilization? Unprecedented!

Posted by: t-bird at June 02, 2010 01:10 PM (FcR7P)

2 Joe Biden seems to be the smart one.

Scary thought.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at June 02, 2010 01:11 PM (8vr0Y)

3 >>How bad is the Obama administration? Joe Biden seems to be the smart one.


Yikes.

Posted by: Dr Spank at June 02, 2010 01:11 PM (pEK05)

4 I guess this proves that in an administration of the stupid, the man with half a brain is king.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at June 02, 2010 01:12 PM (WMLsd)

5 Well he did understand the importance of girding one's loins.

Posted by: kallisto at June 02, 2010 01:13 PM (+FkcS)

6 Don't worry, he's being summoned to the palace as we speak.

Posted by: 48%er at June 02, 2010 01:14 PM (OThQg)

7 Joe sent 3 cases of hair plugs for balding Hamas men on that ship. 

Posted by: Sparky at June 02, 2010 01:14 PM (r0u40)

8 At least Joe is an American.

Posted by: damian at June 02, 2010 01:15 PM (4WbTI)

9 That must've been some bar mizvah Rahm attended back in Israel. From the Samantha Power view of the first 15 months to a Hillary-Biden-Gates triple smack down (by O's metrosexual standards) of Europe and Turkey's antisemitism.

Posted by: The Q at June 02, 2010 01:16 PM (BZiHB)

10 Not enough subtle anti-Semitism in Uncle Joe's words. He'll be slapped down by Obama(pbuh).

Posted by: NJConservative at June 02, 2010 01:17 PM (LH6ir)

11

How bad is the Obama administration? Joe Biden seems to be the smart one.

Hah!  I'm stealing that.

Posted by: rdbrewer at June 02, 2010 01:17 PM (nrP7Z)

12 Well, at least he didn't summon a cripple to stand up. Thank God for small favors.

Posted by: joncelli at June 02, 2010 01:19 PM (RD7QR)

13 Well he did understand the importance of girding one's loins.

Yea, but he thinks girding has something to do with tubs of warm butter, rubber sheets, and a dozen co-eds

Posted by: Purple Avenger at June 02, 2010 01:19 PM (8vr0Y)

14 We have Harry, Barry, and Nan, but Joe makes a good Shemp.

Posted by: maddogg at June 02, 2010 01:19 PM (OlN4e)

15 I'll give Joe some credit.  If Obama and Hillary are voting present, and he's supportive of what is obviously to us a necessary act, the rest of the world is going to get the message "US still supports Israel" and act accordingly, even if that's not what Obama wants.

Posted by: Methos at June 02, 2010 01:21 PM (Xsi7M)

16 The Democrats are really worried about the Jewish vote, and their contributions.

Posted by: damian at June 02, 2010 01:22 PM (4WbTI)

17 Now listen up. It appears the veep is the most appropriate -- okay, maybe the only -- high placed official in this administration with the BIDENS to get behind the campaign to establish the Richard Blumenthal Bi-Partisan Memory-ial Combat Zone Muse-eum. We already received generous contributions of exhibits from Senator-pending-beating-wrasslin'-babe Dick, and an even larger and more impressive array of exhibits from Senator-pending-beating-bankster Mark Kirk, and now there's a new wing being dedicated to Governor Jan Brewer of the combat zone state of Arizona. What we need now is funding, lots and lots of funding, to set up this exhibit (and many others), firstly and most urgently with a Downfall recreation of the moment when Hitler realizes Jan's dad is On The Case and at a critical point in his plan to give his life in a full assault of ze bunker or retire to daily rounds at Thunderbird GC.

Posted by: Gen George S Patton's avatar at June 02, 2010 01:22 PM (Npnnx)

18 Perhaps Joe is hearing from allot of unhappy Jewish voters ? At least those who although unhappy with Israel still support it.

Posted by: John at June 02, 2010 01:23 PM (6FYZ6)

19

How bad is the Obama administration? Joe Biden seems to be the smart one.


That "Biden as Impeachment Insurance" thing isn't working out as well as JugEars thought it would.


Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 02, 2010 01:24 PM (E4Pj8)

20

Biden has been there.   My brother is deputy director of Security for the State Dept. Middle East.  Just over a month ago he had to baby sit Joe Clown shoes Biden and Admiral John F'ing Kerry.

They were there boots on the ground.    They saw what really goes on.

Posted by: gus at June 02, 2010 01:24 PM (Vqruj)

21

"Joe is the smart one." 

It is indeed scary when the Vice Presidential Plagerist makes more sense than anyone else in the administration.

What is even more disturbing is all the new know-it alls on such things as blockades who apparently can't even comprehend the Cliff-notes version because it violates the narrative they have apparently married and did the sexual conga with.  So Israel becomes the agressor and villain while the thugs with pipes are the victirms.

And every hour the President does not make an official response, to in fact vote 'Present,' tells Israel's enemies one thing - the President of America is weak and they will be emboldened.  The clock is moving closer to midnight.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 02, 2010 01:27 PM (xfSjt)

22 It seems to me, that I read an article that said the donations to Dems from Jewish supporters had dried up. Searching for that now.

Posted by: The Great Satan's Ghost at June 02, 2010 01:29 PM (SnHo7)

23 When you've lost Joe Biden...

Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at June 02, 2010 01:30 PM (ps0+9)

24 Gen Petraeus says that the actions and policies of Israel increase the danger to our troops. Now that might not be so important to Israel but it is too me.

Posted by: Michael Collins at June 02, 2010 01:32 PM (I+7Zv)

25 Gibbs said the UN statement reflected the President's take on the situation.

I was afraid of that.

Posted by: Vic at June 02, 2010 01:32 PM (6taRI)

26 Damian says that the actions and policies of this administration increase the danger to all of us.

Posted by: damian can third person too at June 02, 2010 01:34 PM (4WbTI)

27

Gen Petraeus says that the actions and policies of Israel increase the danger to our troops. Now that might not be so important to Israel but it is too me.

 

TGSG says the actions and policies of Israel's enemies increase the danger to our troops. FIFPetraeus.

Posted by: The Great Satan's Ghost at June 02, 2010 01:36 PM (SnHo7)

28 Gen Petraeus says that the actions and policies of Israel increase the danger to our troops. Now that might not be so important to Israel but it is too me.


You forgot the David Caruso *removes sunglasses* thing.....

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 02, 2010 01:38 PM (E4Pj8)

29 heh

Posted by: The Great Satan's Ghost at June 02, 2010 01:38 PM (SnHo7)

30 If it didn't mean Nancy Pelosi as veep, I'd be all about the F'in Shuruff in charge.

Posted by: Filly at June 02, 2010 01:40 PM (CGr9Q)

31 Gen Petraeus says that the actions and policies of Israel increase the danger to our troops. Now that might not be so important to Israel but it is too me.

Nah, that just means Petraeus has no political aspirations.

Posted by: Methos at June 02, 2010 01:41 PM (Xsi7M)

32 If it didn't mean Nancy Pelosi as veep, I'd be all about the F'in Shuruff in charge.


That wouldn't necessarily be true, Plugs could nominate anyone he wanted, as long as they're Constitutionally qualified to be Pres.

Can you imagine Nan's rage if Plugs passed her by for the veep spot?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 02, 2010 01:52 PM (E4Pj8)

33

On the slight chance this wasn't already brought up:

AP INTERVIEW: Turkish aid group had terror ties

PARIS – The Turkish Islamic charity behind a flotilla of aid ships that was raided by Israeli forces on its way to Gaza had ties to terrorism networks, including a 1999 al-Qaida plot to bomb Los Angeles International Airport, France's former top anti-terrorism judge said Wednesday.

The Istanbul-based Foundation for Human Rights and Freedoms and Humanitarian Relief, known by its Turkish acronym IHH, had "clear, long-standing ties to terrorism and Jihad," former investigating judge Jean-Louis Bruguiere told The Associated Press in a telephone interview.

Bruguiere, who led the French judiciary's counterterrorism unit for nearly two decades before retiring in 2007, didn't indicate whether IHH now has terror ties, but said it did when he investigated it in the late 1990s.

"They were basically helping al-Qaida when (Osama) bin Laden started to want to target U.S. soil," he said.

Some members of an international terrorism cell known as the Fateh Kamel network then worked at the IHH, he said. Kamel, an Algerian-Canadian dual national, had ties to the nascent al-Qaida, Bruguiere said.

Among Kamel's followers was Ahmed Ressam, an Algerian who was arrested in the U.S. state of Washington in December 1999 on his way to bomb Los Angeles International Airport as part of an al-Qaida plot.

"IHH had a role in the organization that led to the plot," Bruguiere said, reiterating sworn testimony he made in a U.S. Federal Court during Ressam's trial. Ressam is serving a 22-year prison sentence.

Bruguiere issued an international warrant for Kamel, Ressam's former mentor, who was extradited from Jordan to France in 1999 and sentenced to eight years in prison on terror-related charges.

IHH vehemently denies ties to radical groups. The group is not among some 45 groups listed as terrorists by the U.S. State Department's Office of the Coordinator for Counterterrorism. Nine people on board the IHH flotilla were killed by Israeli forces on Monday.

"We are a legal organization," IHH board member Omer Faruk Korkmaz said late Wednesday in response to Bruguiere's statements. "We have nothing to do with any illegal organization," he said.

"We don't know Ahmed Ressam or Fateh Kamel," Korkmaz said. "We don't approve of the actions of any terrorist organization in the world."

French investigators found in the 1990s that "several members of Fateh Kamel's network worked at the IHH as a cover," Bruguiere said. "It was too systematic and too widespread for the NGO (non-governmental organization) not to know" their real goal, he said.

The former judge, renowned for tracking down convicted terrorist Carlos the Jackal, said he didn't believe the IHH could have been infiltrated by terrorists without its knowledge.

"It's hard to prove, but all elements of the investigation showed that part of the NGO served to hide jihad-type activities," Bruguiere said. "I'm convinced this was a clear strategy, known by IHH."

The judge said he was personally involved in a raid with French and Turkish police at IHH headquarters in Istanbul in 1998, where they found weapons, false documents and other "incriminating" material.

"It was clearly proven that some of the NGO's work was not charity, it was to provide a facade for moving funds, weapons and mujahedeen to and from Bosnia and Afghanistan" — areas focused on by Islamic militants then.

Posted by: stuiec at June 02, 2010 01:53 PM (7AOgy)

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23 DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs

When you've lost Joe Biden...

Has he wandered off again?

Posted by: Golem14 at June 02, 2010 02:02 PM (2X8VA)

35 Joe's a dope and a liberal but the fact he didn't enrich himself as a senator also tells me he's probably a reasonable honest man- his response is actually thoughtful with a dash of realpolitik. He's finished.

Posted by: jjshaka at June 02, 2010 02:05 PM (QIlC0)

36 35  Joe is about as honest as he is smart, but he does have this refreshing tendency to spout off truth from time to time, in spite of his handlers best precautions.

Posted by: unknown jane at June 02, 2010 02:08 PM (5/yRG)

37 Beck: Three of the flotilla boats were sponsored by "Free Gaza".

What Americans are involved with "Free Gaza"?

Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn and Jodee Evans.

Hmm. How to craft a war. The ulitmate in community organizing.

Posted by: Derak at June 02, 2010 02:11 PM (aJ9jE)

38 I can do things! I'm SMART Barry, not stupid like they all say! Fredo, take Hillary to the airport, Fredo, go to some funeral.

Posted by: Fredo Biden at June 02, 2010 02:19 PM (sYxEE)

39 If "Joe gets it right"....you can be sure he'll be told STFU!

Posted by: GarandFan at June 02, 2010 02:33 PM (6mwMs)

40 Well, you can expect Obama to side with the terrorists. His top adviser and deputy secretary for terrorism calls Jerusalem Al Quds, just like the terrorists do.

Posted by: Vic at June 02, 2010 02:33 PM (6taRI)

41 I have not heard much anger from the Jewish vote (ie heavily demorat) about this.  It seems they are not to alarmed about this.  It seems they are democratic libs more than they are Jewish.

Posted by: Hous Bin Pharteen at June 02, 2010 02:42 PM (4yHLd)

42 Joe.  Joe.  Come over here Joe.   Joe.  Barry is not happy about you going off message about that flotilla thing.  Gaffes like that will not help Barry implement his final solution.   Joe. Joe.  Don't run.  You're just making it harder on yourself...

Posted by: The Bus at June 02, 2010 04:35 PM (1AnxB)

43 hmm while 43 is your standard sales ad spam, its like the spambot in 44 is actually trying to stay on topic

Posted by: HowardDevore at June 02, 2010 08:17 PM (7HWVJ)

44

How bad is the Obama administration? Joe Biden seems to be the smart one.

 

And I thought Obama picked Biden so that he wouldn't get shown up by his VP.  another thing Barack got wrong.

Posted by: Mikey NTH at June 03, 2010 10:32 AM (O9Cc8)

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