October 27, 2010

Sink Sunk by Spin Bunk: Sink Lied About Cheating At Debate
— Ace

I took a pass on the Sink cheating story, because of the meh factor. Okay, some woman handed her a phone; she read it. Is that the most horrible thing? Certainly it doesn't rise to the level of, say, Joe Miller Freeping an unofficial, meaningless online poll at work by voting four times. That obviously evidences a gross defect of character.

But Sink cheating a little? Meh.

But... on the other hand... if you look the American people in the eye and just lie to them (at Hot Air)...

John King of CNN (link at Hot Air) analyzed the audio and the make-up artist clearly said "This is a message from the staff," which doesn't sound anything like "from your daughter."

Sink's next line, of course, will be that she didn't hear what the make-up artist said, she was too busy thinkin' about governin' and stuff, and anyway, this is all just a distraction from what the people of Florida need, and what the people of Florida need is a dishonest air-head who needs her staff to tell her things like "When he says something bad about you, you say it's not true."

Posted by: Ace at 07:54 AM | Comments (53)
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1 But....she's a Dem.  Isn't lying a prerequisite? 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 27, 2010 07:59 AM (UOM48)

2 Then why did she fire somebody?

Also stolen from the net:
Former President Bill Clinton’s ‘get out the vote’ rally for Democrats at a downtown Chicago hotel was the most unenthusiastic WLS veteran political reporter Bill Cameron has ever witnessed.

Clinton was an hour late for the Tuesday afternoon rally at the Palmer House and droned on for another hour, sending dozens of the few hundred Democrats in attendance for the exits.


Posted by: Guy Fawkes at October 27, 2010 08:00 AM (ruu60)

3 They'll say "all politicians lie."  But they don't.  Republicans don't get away with lying.  I'm sure they'd like to, but they don't.  Not so blatantly and not to such an extent.

Every single one of these Democrats is lying: Don't believe what I've done, believe what I'm telling you now.

Dear Independents: They think you're stupid.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 27, 2010 08:01 AM (3wPsb)

4 What I liked best was Scott's immediate notice of the infraction.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at October 27, 2010 08:01 AM (0Pl08)

5 Manchin's now up 3 in Ras in WV. This 'cerns me. But otherwise, the wave continues to build.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at October 27, 2010 08:02 AM (0Pl08)

6 Some of these congresscritters are so slow that their staff has to walk with them to the bathroom. She's just a wee bit more advanced than that, but not by much.

Posted by: joncelli at October 27, 2010 08:03 AM (RD7QR)

7 O'Donnell's inhouse polling puts her 6 down. Beautiful.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at October 27, 2010 08:03 AM (0Pl08)

8 Manchin's now up 3 in Ras in WV. This 'cerns me. But otherwise, the wave continues to build.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at October 27, 2010 12:02 PM (0Pl0

Why is this concerning?  Wasn't Machine supposed to win this race by 20% or sumptin'?  If the polls are showing it this close he's in deep, deep, deep trouble.

Posted by: Editor at October 27, 2010 08:04 AM (pUfK9)

9 Sink is sunk, Coons is cooked, Murkowski is beef jerky (hey, you try to come up with something with that name). Get on the wave people, before it gets too big to mount.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at October 27, 2010 08:05 AM (0Pl08)

10 Stink. Get it?

Posted by: The Mega Independent at October 27, 2010 08:05 AM (3iDt4)

11 The citizens of the great State of Connecticut don't care that Dick "Dick" Blumenthal looked them in the eye and lied to them.  Nobody cared that BJ Clinton  lied under oath about Monica.  I think that the average Democrat voter thinks that everybody lies so why hold that against a good Marxist?

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 27, 2010 08:06 AM (xxgag)

12 Get on the wave people, before it gets too big to mount. Posted by: MaxMBJ at October 27, 2010 12:05 PM (0Pl0 There's a Joy Behar joke in there somewhere, but I'm NOT going there...

Posted by: Nighthawk at October 27, 2010 08:07 AM (02uN6)

13 Sink is sunk, Coons is cooked, Lisa is a piece-a Crap.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at October 27, 2010 08:08 AM (0Pl08)

14 Sink lied, make-up artists' died!

Posted by: The Chewbacca Defense at October 27, 2010 08:12 AM (GGEUV)

15 You know Alex Sink is the great-granddaughter of CIRCUS FREAKS, don't you? Frickin' CHANG AND ENG!!! Whoaaaaaaaa . . . those Siamese twins just snuck over the border, found themselves some soft wet Southern tail and pumped out like 11 kids apiece. And stole my job.

Posted by: Jo-jo the Dog-Faced Boy at October 27, 2010 08:13 AM (bN5ZU)

16

She just lost. It had been kinda close before now, but she just made a mistake that everyone will remember for the next week.

Not that Scott is all that trustworthy either, but he knows that folks will be watching him and all the newly elected pols like bloodthirsty hawks, and all they need to do is fuck up one time and there will be wrath unleashed.

Things have changed.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 27, 2010 08:14 AM (3jxR/)

17 Sort of OT but sort of related:

During the last hour, @nprnews has tweeted two stories that continue their pattern of left leaning news "reporting":

How The Rest Of The World Views The Tea Party
Joe Miller's On-The-Job Political Chicanery Detailed

Posted by: TheRedDianthus at October 27, 2010 08:14 AM (ErOeR)

18 O'Donnell and Angle are ignorant dummies, but this douche that has to lie about phone prompting is bright and articulate?

This turd looks like she'd be intellectually challenged by a parent teacher conference.

Posted by: ontherocks at October 27, 2010 08:15 AM (HBqDo)

19 The WV polls are a bit roller-coastery.  I suppose Manchin's desperate attempt to convince people he's secretly a Republican in his heart is working.  I guess Democrats in WV like to be lied to.  I certainly trust Ras' methodology.

But if the numbers can flip so much so quickly, it doesn't represent a trend.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 27, 2010 08:16 AM (3wPsb)

20 Speaking of slimy pols, Hoyer did a boo-boo (when he held a campaign event at the Patuxent River Naval Air Museum).   

Posted by: Y-not at October 27, 2010 08:16 AM (UcOiF)

21 O'Donnell's inhouse polling puts her 6 down. Beautiful.

Posted by: MaxMBJ

 

Being from Delaware, I've been bracing or the worst. But this same group (Tea Party Express) accurately predicted her chances in the primary. And I noticed the state GOP go into overtime after that poll was announced, so they apparantly saw merit in it. And as we know, she did edge Castle.

This poll also would explain why Coons is on the attack and running away from Obama on the Bush tax cuts.

What I find curious is what they're doing differently from Reichmussen.

Posted by: Blue Hen at October 27, 2010 08:16 AM (R2fpr)

22 It is "meh" but...

"Then why did she fire somebody?"

Right, in fact she says, "I held the person who was responsible for the cheating accountable and he's no longer with my campaign."

Doesn't she feel the least bit she's responsible?

To me the firing is worse because it shows she throws little people to the wolves to cover her screw-ups. Haven't we had quite enough of that kind of leadership lately?

She knew the rules. She should have just said, "Ooops. I reacted quickly to a note being handed to me without thinking. My mistake, and I apologize." And the staff member could be reprimanded. But over-punishing an underling in an attempt to inoculate yourself stinks.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at October 27, 2010 08:19 AM (GGulh)

23

"You know Alex Sink is the great-granddaughter of CIRCUS FREAKS, don't you?"

If only she was a dwarf with flippers and a beard...

Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at October 27, 2010 08:22 AM (HaYO4)

24 It's hard to get too worked up about a candidate cheating by reading a text message during one of these phony fucking "debates".  If you're going to have a debate, let's get it on.  No rules.  If you want to stomp over and fake punch your opponent to make him flinch on camera, hell yes.  If you want to make fart noises into the microphone while the other guy talks, go for it.  They may as well make their recitation of talking points entertaining.

Posted by: Ted Kennedy's Gristle Encased Head at October 27, 2010 08:23 AM (+lsX1)

25 How The Rest Of The World Views The Tea Party

Half the rest of the world loved Obama; the other half hates us no matter what we do or who we have running our show.  Fuck the rest of the world.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at October 27, 2010 08:27 AM (Vz9lf)

26

So...Sink was worried about her daughter in Europe, that might be in a Turkish prison. "But I totally ignored the message".  Either she is a shitty mom, or she saw, and got, the true message. Which resulted in a staffer being fired?

Follow-up: "So if you didn't understand the message, you thought was from your daughter in Europe, when did you contact her to confirm she was OK?...and can you provide those phone records"?

Posted by: hutch1200 at October 27, 2010 08:32 AM (RRM77)

27 Uh, the world doesn't hate us. They're like a teenager ripping on his parents to his buddies to sound independent.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at October 27, 2010 08:35 AM (0Pl08)

28 Does anyone know when that whore will be finished recovering from the breast cancer infection? I want to smack her around some more.

Posted by: Jerry Brown at October 27, 2010 08:35 AM (bN5ZU)

29 More @nprnews taxpayer supported news reporting-ignoring the leftwing shadow groups:

A Web Of GOP Influence
http://tinyurl.com/233nzaa

Posted by: TheRedDianthus at October 27, 2010 08:35 AM (ErOeR)

30 Oh, and girls, don't forget to vote for me. I'll buy you shiny baubles and such.

Posted by: Jerry Brown at October 27, 2010 08:36 AM (bN5ZU)

31 I took a pass on the Sink cheating story, because of the meh factor.

One lesson I think to take from the campaign the Democrats ran in 2006/8 is run with every negative story you can find about the opposition party. It helps create the notion that they have a "culture of corruption".

And one of the benefits of being on the right is we have so much more real scandal to work with. But there is no reason to not throw everything we've got - from the Walpin firing on down...

Posted by: 18-1 at October 27, 2010 08:38 AM (7BU4a)

32 If you want to make fart noises into the microphone while the other guy talks, go for it.

Now that is a debate I would like to participate in.

Posted by: Sen Stuart Smalley at October 27, 2010 08:39 AM (7BU4a)

33 25  The rest of the world loved Obama because he was going to take us down a peg, and suck up to them.

Posted by: Hatchet Five at October 27, 2010 08:42 AM (B4xb/)

34 This poll also would explain why Coons is on the attack and running away from Obama on the Bush tax cuts.

It is frustrating that this will work in some cases, at least. If you don't like the Obama or Pelosi agenda, why would you vote for a Democrat? All of these "independent" and "moderate" Democrats rolled over for them over these last 2 years. And they will do it again until someone makes them pay a price.

Posted by: Sen Stuart Smalley at October 27, 2010 08:42 AM (7BU4a)

35

O'Donnell's inhouse polling puts her 6 down. Beautiful.

Internal polls are almost meaningless- they're as much for PR as anything else.  They always show greater support for the candidate that sponsored them then independent polls.

Even if it was accurate (and it probably isn't), being down 6 points less than 6 days before the election isn't something to crow about.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 27, 2010 08:43 AM (plsiE)

36 The rest of the world loved Obama because he was going to take us down a peg, and suck up to them. give them money, lots of our money.

FTFY

Posted by: 18-1 at October 27, 2010 08:43 AM (7BU4a)

37 Uh, the world doesn't hate us. They're like a teenager ripping on his parents to his buddies to sound independent.

They're like the spoiled kid of 35 living in Mommy's basement and bitterly resentful of the successful sibling living in his own nice house...

Posted by: Hatchet Five at October 27, 2010 08:46 AM (B4xb/)

38 I did not have textual relations with that message.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at October 27, 2010 08:46 AM (3iDt4)

39

Even if it was accurate (and it probably isn't), being down 6 points less than 6 days before the election isn't something to crow about.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 27, 2010 12:43 PM (plsiE)

Yes and no. I would be amazed if C'OD pulled out a victory because all of the Democrat heavy guns are aimed at her. You are right about internal polls, and even a 6 point loss is still a loss.

However, if a below average candidate, who is viewed as "far right" in a far left state, and who is the primary lightning rod in this campaign is able to keep her loss fairly close it means that the Republicans truly have a mandate to pursue "very" conservative positions in non-crazy non-leftwing America...

Posted by: 18-1 at October 27, 2010 08:47 AM (7BU4a)

40 >>>Internal polls are almost meaningless- they're as much for PR as anything else. They always show greater support for the candidate that sponsored them then independent polls. I used to think that but Charlie Cook put me some knowledge a few weeks ago, discussing polls. He says 50% of media (independent) polls are pure crap because no one pays enough money to do them properly. Another 25% are mediocre. Only 25% are worth a damn. Meanwhile, he says he'd trust an internal poll by a reputable firm over most media polls. One caveat, though, is that the campaigns cherry-pick which polls to release. Let's say they're doing good, solid professional polls, but they have three: One putting their candidate down 12, one 10, and one six. Now, best guess, the candidate is down 10 or so. But of course they publicize the one that says she's down six.

Posted by: ace at October 27, 2010 08:49 AM (wACL4)

41 The tea party express doesn't say who did this poll. They don't say "Rasmussen," which has been doing some private polling for O'Donnell, and is a trusted brand. So I assume it's not Rasmussen.

Posted by: ace at October 27, 2010 08:50 AM (wACL4)

42 I did not have textual relations with that message---WINNAH!

Posted by: hutch1200 at October 27, 2010 08:57 AM (RRM77)

43 I can't believe someone hasn't used this one yet:

"THE BITCH SET ME UP!!!"

Posted by: EC at October 27, 2010 08:59 AM (mAhn3)

44 As for internal polls, Cook does put more stock in them (as noted above) and others say they are about 3 points in favor of their own. So giving that, O'Donnell is down 9. That is a big deal. Single digits means winnable. The polls that put her down greater numbers (including Ras) all are showing higher Dem votes that Repubs ... by a lot. That's historically true ... but his election is about to add a new wrinkle to history. O'Donnell is poised to be the biggest story of an already huge story.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at October 27, 2010 09:01 AM (0Pl08)

45
7 O'Donnell's inhouse polling puts her 6 down. Beautiful.

"We're gonna win the game, I guarantee it."   Broadway Joe, 3 days before Superbowl III. Superbowl III Final: Jets 16, Colts 7

And yes grasshopper, I am old enough to remember it.  And yes, I will just shut up about it because I know that you know where this is going because I know that you know that in Â’69 all the sports writers and bookies, i.e. the smartest guys in the room, picked the Colts over the Jets with a huge spread.    

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OH!

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Posted by: VADM (Red) Cuthbert Collingwood, RN at October 27, 2010 09:18 AM (YZ0iV)

46 Kos and Andrew ("Queen Mary Jane Milky Loads") Sullivan would turn this into a grand conspiracy about Sink faking her pregnancy to cover up for that daughter in Europe (and why is she in Europe, by the way?) with grave implications for Sink's honesty and fitness for office.

I'd like to think we're better than that.

Posted by: Leo Ladenson at October 27, 2010 09:19 AM (mAm+G)

47

O'Donnell's inhouse polling puts her 6 down. Beautiful.

Internal polls are almost meaningless- they're as much for PR as anything else.  They always show greater support for the candidate that sponsored them then independent polls.

Even if it was accurate (and it probably isn't), being down 6 points less than 6 days before the election isn't something to crow about.

Posted by: Hollowpoint

I'm not crowing.

Being down six points in a blue state where your opponent has been bringing in the President, VP and a line of Senators and "press' (Rachel Maddow) is not meaningless. Add to that the collusion of the national AND local press.

And I noted that this same group managed to publish a poll during the primary that turned out to be very accurate after the fact, and which was taken very seriously by the state GOP beforehand.

If this poll is as viable as that prior poll, then this is far closer than anyone thought. Coons' current actions seem to resemble the state GOP; ramp up the attacks and even run away from the President.

 

You didn't listen to these polls or people from Delaware during the primary, and see how well that approach turned out. You want to ignore this again and rely on your attitide and snark? Feel free. She's still far behind. but unless these signs are dramatically different from what we've already witnessed, something weird is going on here. Again.

Posted by: Blue Hen at October 27, 2010 09:21 AM (R2fpr)

48

This is beautiful; Sink keeps making up lies before she knows what CNN has on her. First she said her aid "tried" to communicate with her, apparently not knowing she was on tape reading the message. Then she tried claiming the make-up artist said she didn't know who the message was from, not knowing CNN had audio of what the make-up artist actually said.

I can see two possible TV ads her opponent can make out of this.

"If she'll lie like this when she's on tape, imagine what lies she'll tell you about what she does when she's out of your sight."

"Do Floridians really want a governor so stupid she'll make up lies not knowing she's on tape with audio even though she's in a TV studio?"

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49 I've taught in an urban school for a few years. I used to joke that old fairy tales began with "Once upon a time", but modern fairy tales begin with "See, what happened was...". Every time I heard someone say that, I knew not to believe whatever followed. I'm not buying it from Ms. Sink.

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