The cancer should've carried him off

I'm tired of these people, I see no need for civility towards them anymore

I sthmoke pole.

All day.

Efphery day. 

Havph phor decadesth.

I'm healtphy asth an Oxthph!

ya know, I almost feel sorry for people like Schieffer, almost.

most people who used to hate repubs have now finally had their eyes opened when the MSM went from bias to pure propoganda in 2008. The trust in them is completely gone, and the MSM hasn't figured that out yet.

Seriously, though.  Same double standard for Pole Smoking. 

Dems are heroes and Republicans are outed and ostracized by the mainstream.

_{[WTF up w/no Football/Fantasy/CHEERLEADER PIC Thread!?!?]}

Posted by: Tami at September 12, 2010 01:07 PM (VuLos)

I told him to knock off the coke and pot too, but he told me I was a bitter clinger and he had a waffle that needed eating.

Posted by: curious at September 12, 2010 01:12 PM (p302b)

The entire undemocratic party is imploding. And I say that as a former dem.  The brand of them and the MSM is tarnished beyond repair at this point.  Flush the toilet I say.

why don't repub hit back against this nonsense?

I never undertand it. 

Boehner should have asked Schieffer "Bob, why do you ask such questions when there are so many more important issues out there?"  And when Schieffer started bloviating about setting exampkes, etc., Boehner could have just asked him "Well okay then, what did Obama say when you asked him about it?"

I remember when I was still a dem, I was rooting for Bill Clinton when he went on Chris Wallace's show and said something like "you all are all the same, smiling and asking talking points of the repubs...etc"

something to that effect.

Seriously, if I was a Tea Party candidate in some debate I would have asked any MSM liberal, "well, I know as the president of the Obama fan club, you need to ask the dem. talking points.... etc"

its like people like romney, the huckster don't fight back.  They want to be liked rather than fight.  I only see people like palin, or joe miller fight back

You know what he'll do if he gets Chris Christie on the show.

Sovereign debt crisis exacerbated by the most fiscally unsound president in history?  Not interesting.

Tan guy smokes?  Really important.

No wonder people turn to bloggers for news and analysis. 

Posted by: Groaty Dick at September 12, 2010 01:38 PM (gzjhZ)

That has to be a sockpuppet. Has to be.

Jimmy Joe is a sock, right?

That shit is too funny and stereotypical to be real.

Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-dem at September 12, 2010 01:40 PM

Heh, what I had in mind is that Schieffer would ask Christie to quit obsessing on those 7000% deficits and take a Dieting Pledge. Michelle Obama's anti-obesity campaign et blah.

_{You might all be a collection of highly educated New Yorkers like me, instead of a bunch of shitheads living in Bumfuck, Ohio.  Slackers.  Non-producers.  Know-nothing Islamophobic bigoted gay-hating carbon-spewing Nazi pigs.}

I was born and raised in NY.  You are the reason I left.  Go floss your cat.

#38 The nation needs to do spring cleaning from top to bottom.

You know what sewer we really need to clean out?  We need to burn the MSM brands that shill for Obama down to the fucking waterline.  Drive them out of business.  No prisoners.

Publish the names and pictures of the publishers, editors, reporters and talking heads in a large-format coffee table book called "The Big Book of Media Whores", along with examples of their "best" work, and lists of their advertisers.

It would sell like hotcakes waffles!

 but man, today, on Fox, the panel didn't think twice about blaming everything on the internet. 

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Not so. 

IIRC Mara Liasson of NPR made that claim, and made it badly, saying that everything on the Internet has the same credibility.  THEN she used the term "viral", which  undercut her entire argument; only some Internet blogs and posts achieve that status.  SHE, not "the panel" blamed the Internet.

Hume mentioned the Internet too, but HE blamed the media for whipping up the controversy involving a "penny-ante preacher".  The Internet was just a vehicle to publicize the issue.

Gabe, apologies for the O/T but there's no open thread today.

I took some time to catch up on this blog's DE senate posts. Unlike most of the chattering class who has gathered here to discuss Tuesday's primary, I have a dog in this fight - DE resident since the late 1990s. The lack of knowledge demonstrated by the non-Delawareans is mind-boggling. For instance, a SC based poster was certain an anti-O'Donnel comment was lifted from "therealmcdonnel.com". Which the gentleman assured us, was bought and paid for by the Castle campaign. That website doesn't exist, and whoever mcdonnel is, he's not running against Castle.

There have been dire warnings about the RINO switching to the Dem party after winning election. Castle has no record of such behavior, unlike neighboring Arlen Specter, whose ascent in national politics was the result of a switch - from Democrat to Republican.

There were some astute observations made, e.g. in the unlikely event O'Donnell makes it to the Senate, she will need to tack left because that's just what happens in D.C. It looks like that's already happening, she's walking back from her socon creds:

After Wednesday's speech, she insisted that social issues like promiscuity are not on her radar screen if she gets elected to Washington.

"That has nothing to do with this campaign!" O'Donnell said, sounding exasperated, adding: "Well, I'm a social conservative that's obvious, but none of this is relevant to the campaign."

source: Philadelphia Inquirer, Sep 10 online edition

I was going to sit the election out, because I find both candidates lacking. But the Palin/Hannity/Limbaugh endorsement has changed my mind. I'm voting for Castle, Delaware can't be forevermore known as the home of the Republican Patty Murray.

Posted by: nightwitch at September 12, 2010 01:26 PM (SbaLN)

In defense of Boehner, he's usually more glib with responses than this.  Maybe it's because he feels a bit guilty about smoking (unlike Jugears McFly, who just blatantly lies about it; of course why should that be different from anything else that comes out of his Kools-hole?) or maybe he was surprised by this line of attack from the likes of Schieffer, who used to be an anonymous little dweeb before going into the pit-chihuahua mode at the behest of his MFM masters.

This would be a waaaaay better strategy if more than 30% of voters knew who John Boner is.

Posted by: Jimmy Joe at September 12, 2010 01:45 PM (bIgjn)

BS I saw you with socks on and your birkenstocks just the other day.

Posted by: Drinky Crow at September 12, 2010 01:46 PM (5+Fvb)

Impossible! JournoList was shut down, remember? They pinky-sweared us that they did!

why don't repub hit back against this nonsense?

I never undertand it. 

Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-dem at September 12, 2010 01:19 PM

One reason why I was ever a Dem. Republicans are the world's laziest and worst communicators.

_{I think its ace}

Nope. 

Only single posts and no HotAir Links.

"I was going to sit the election out, because I find both candidates lacking. But the Palin/Hannity/Limbaugh endorsement has changed my mind. I'm voting for Castle, Delaware can't be forevermore known as the home of the Republican Patty Murray.

Posted by: Trolley Square at September 12, 2010 01:46 PM (wTSvK)"

Wow, the palin effect is amazing....

Everyone asked "why the endorsement so late, what's the point"....well, you just made Sarah Palin's point beautifully by just being you....Once she endorsed O'Donnel, this got you to notice the election and now you weren't going to vote and you are going to vote.  If the object is to have  good turnout for the primary and have a viable republican that everyone can get behind and energized about I'd say "the palin effect" is faster than I ever imagined.

Posted by: curious at September 10, 2010 03:22 PM (p302b)

The esteemed Independent voter, too above it all to claim party affiliation, sermonizes the rest of us who have been in the trenches working for the GOP. No matter that we've had doors slammed in faces, and phone connections broken when we've canvassed for Republican candidates over the years. Any suggestion that COD has problems is met with the facile, trite lib/dem accusation.

The irony, it burns. "curious", that's what you've made me. What have you done for the cause lately?

124 Republicans are the world's laziest and worst communicators.

Hey, I resent that...

Posted by: Zombie Ronald Reagan at September 12, 2010 01:51 PM

Well you kind of make my point by raising the dead.

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack

THREAD WINNER

I was going to sit the election out, because I find both candidates lacking. But the Palin/Hannity/Limbaugh endorsement has changed my mind. I'm voting for Castle, Delaware can't be forevermore known as the home of the Republican Patty Murray.

Posted by: Trolley Square at September 12, 2010 01:46 PM (wTSvK)

WTF? I am not sure what you are getting at here but Patty Murray is a democrat senator from Washington.

Republicans are the world's laziest and worst communicators.

Oh, if only.  FauxNoise sure seems to have gotten the drill down pretty well.
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Oh, thanks for reminding me. I meant to add,

Megyn Kelly for White House Press Secretary!

Posted by: Trolley Square at September 12, 2010 01:46 PM (wTSvK)"

the family I have in DE don't like the dem nominee, they will vote for Castle in the general, however they will not vote for O'Donneld if she is the nominee.

They remember her from the last time she was the repub nominee against Biden , and they abosolutely do not trust her.  And these are dems who supported financially Joe Miller, but they will not support O'Doneld.

Palin did not make a good choice here. This woman is no Karen Handel or Bachmann, she is way out there.

 I'd say "the palin effect" is faster than I ever imagined.

Delaware is not Alaska. The Palin endorsement will motivate the dreaded moderates to stop by the polls on their way to Buckley's or Harry's Savoy to vote for the dreaded RINO. The O'Donnell contingent was already fired up before SP. The final results will be much closer than Castle's campaign had anticipated, he'll win by about 2-3 points.

(Sorry for jacking the smoking thread. FWIW no Salem 100s to be found at my house these past ten years or so.)

WTF? I am not sure what you are getting at here but Patty Murray is a democrat senator from Washington.

Yes, well known for her dumbassery. On second thought, COD isn't so much a dumbass as a financial scandal waiting to happen.

I had to click on the "fat burning furnace" link, I just couldn't help it.

It was disappointing.

Posted by: Trolley Square at September 12, 2010 02:04 PM

Seems a bit nonsensical to me. She could have thrown her weight behind Castle and gotten the same result: primary turnout.

 Oh and both my parents died of smoking related issuses

Great argument, Einstein.  Your parents' intelligence is clearly reflected in their personal habits and the retarded yammering of their pathetic progeny.

129 Which president said "tomorrow morning I will be sober while you will still be ugly"?

That was President Winston Churchill.  I wish we had had him and they had Prime Minister Roosevelt.  You morons do know that Winnie was half-American on his mom's side, right?  And there is a real US Navy warship named after him, too.

Jimmy Joe John Boy is a hoot and a holler, whoever it is. Very nearly made me clean my screen.

And, yeah, that's the best question Sheiffer can come up with? Especially with the sorry state we're in right now? Sheesh...

The fact that Boehner gave such a limp response, when he should've laughed uproariously and said, "Tell you what Bob, I'll quit when the president does. We can form our own two-man support group!" should be all the evidence the left needs that this Alinskyite play against him won't work.

Bingo, he should have tossed it right back in his face.

I would have done one better and asked about all the cash Obama took from BP and when is he going to stop using "big oil" products?

The MFM are targeting and polarizing their new found enemy. 

People like to cite Alinsky, but George Orwell had these guys pegged.

Boehner is the recipient of the 2010 version of the Emmanuel Golstein award.  Rush Limbaugh is the usual recipient, but Newt Gingrich won it in 1994.

Newsmag covers from that time show how vicious they were.

I would advise Boener not to defend himself ,but to keep reinforcing this analogy.  He can mention Alinsky, but keep mentioning Orwell.

The correct answer, if it has not been given in posts 2 through 184, is "but I don't inhale."

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 12, 2010 02:08 PM (swuwV)

Texas Christian University, since you asked. The Wiki entry has some interesting tidbits including the fact that his older brother Tom is a friend of W's and was appointed as Ambassador to Australia by the same.

Which president said "tomorrow morning I will be sober while you will still be ugly"?

That was me, fellas. I say it to Moochelle every night.
Posted by: B. Hussein Obama at September 12, 2010 02:13 PM
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Good God, how did the rest of us miss that?

Posted by: eman at September 12, 2010 02:15 PM (gF6M4)

Agree

I'm not even going to discuss football right now.

*sobs*

Boehner should have said that he's not smoking menthols like some, cough, Easy Bake, cough, so he has that going for him.

No football thread?

This place is going to pot!

Posted by: logprof at September 12, 2010 02:22 PM
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This is becoming a defacto football thread. It's going to pot.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at September 12, 2010 01:57 PM (0fzsA)

Out of RESPECT for the office!

If the Bengals have two Number Ones, why does their offense look like nothing but Number Two?

Yeeeeeeees.

It's probably because they spent more time nailing down their Batman & Robin routine than, you know, practicing.

The previous thread has become the defacto football thread with cheer leaders.

Posted by: Vic at September 12, 2010 02:27 PM

Oh. One would have to bother looking at those cheerleader threads to know.

Posted by: CAC at September 12, 2010 02:24 PM (Gr1V1)

Pfft. That was so last year at the State Fair of Texas; we've moved on to fried beer. It's gonna take $500 bucks just to get drunk.

Well, before I get off to real life (cleaning out this house so the painters can get in tomorrow), I just want to say:

The poster known as Jimmy Joe is on a roll. Please stick around!

^^God, that looks leaden. I'm wrung out from my September 11 personal ritual yesterday (all day at Disneyland, you fucking terrorists).

Hey in 2008 Goldman Saks gave the most money to which two candidates?

Chris Dodd & Barack Obama.  They got millions.

There's some campaign cash that continues to pay off big time.

A hundred thousand or so to Boehner over his lifetime in politics, chump change.

Publish the names and pictures of the publishers, editors, reporters and talking heads in a large-format coffee table book called "The Big Book of Media Whores", along with examples of their "best" work, and lists of their advertisers.

I would especially add who owns those specific media outlets hence, who is in a position to give them their marching orders.  It's all paid hit pieces now, isn't it?...there has to be some reason to carry a media outlet at a loss for years at a time.

It's gonna be real funny to see your faces when the Democrats pick up 20 seats in the House and Mr. John BOOOOO-NERRRR loses his own re-election race.  Hey, he's from Ohio too, whaddya know!  Figures!
Posted by: Jimmy Joe at September 12, 2010 01:42 PM (Vuz4U)

It's official - -you're just here to goof.  Thank God.  I was worried for a while that you were serious.  Now it's obvious you're not serious.  Whew... 

Posted by: Y-not at September 12, 2010 02:40 PM (osFsP)

Yeah...finally.  It was a horrible game on both sides except for the last 10 mins. or so.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at September 12, 2010 02:39 PM (KjOZL)

This is precisely why I don't watch pro ball anymore. Too many douchebags fucking up the game.

Posted by: Moi at September 12, 2010 02:39 PM (Ez4Ql)

We're working on it!

Snakebot headline -

OMG I just remembered Maxwell Smart's electric snake!  I just about shit myself laughing at that one.

Hey T.O., how do you like playing for the Bengals now? Getting the ball enough? Lovin' all that sweet fan worship? Ha, ha, ha.

Owens to start spreading rumors about Carson Palmer being a gay racist in 3...2...1... 

Posted by: Groaty Dick at September 12, 2010 01:46 PM (gzjhZ)

Sounds like a certain family member of mine who lives and sneers in Brooklyn.

What's the definition of a moderate muslim?

...one who ran out of ammunition...

Posted by: curious at September 12, 2010 02:57 PM (p302b)

Speaking of that Curious, I read a writeup in the Post the other day about some 'tard woman in Brooklyn who opened a door and knocked another woman cyclist into a city bus to be ran over. The casually drove off to a baby shower.

Got any updates on that?

Schieffer: “You have taken $340,000 from the tobacco industry. They've been the largest contributor to your political campaigns over the year. How do you square that with the fact that cigarette smoking is the leading cause of preventable deaths in this country, 435,000 people, their deaths are linked to cancer, that's 1 in 5. How do you justify that in your own mind?”

Boehner: Bob, attacking smokers never fed a hungry child, or gave a job to an unemployed American.

Dammit, when are the republicans going to realize that being nice   to the bastards dos not work? When are they going to say "I really dont want to go to those stupid parties anyway?" and show some damn balls in standing up to these idiots? 

273 how much coke has BHO snorted?

"and a little blow if you could afford it" -- Issues from My Daddy

Dammit, when are the republicans going to realize that being nice   to the bastards dos not work? When are they going to say "I really dont want to go to those stupid parties anyway?" and show some damn balls in standing up to these idiots? 

That's why I say Boehner should turn it around and focus on the attacking.  You must ignore the questions that they're asking and answer the question you want asked.

Use the Orwell reference, it's a winner.

Snakebot headline -

Watch the last few seconds of this, to see one of the funniest lines ever in "Get Smart!"  The title... "Washington 4, Redskins 3"

Two braves sitting in teepee.  Outside the entrance flap an object moves past, sliding along the ground.  One brave says to another "What was that?"  The other answers "If I didn't know better, I'd say it was an electric snake!"  The gag is set up earlier in the video when Smart announces he plans to use his electric snake device to find out what the Indians are up to.

Last night one of my freinds told me with a straight face that academics and teachers are the millionaires, some billionaires next door and the reason why BO had to increase salaries for public employees was to attract them to the administration. 

This is true about lawyers.  The legal profession is such a corrupt swamp that there are a great deal of rich lawyers.  So rich that they couldn't imagine taking the overinflated law school salaries. (A rich lawyer is prima facie evidence of a corrupt system.)

But even if your friend were right, how's that workin' out for them?

For most of these people, they'll take the low government salaries because when they get out, there's always a fat salary waiting.

I'm not saying this for any reason but that their behavior hasn't reflected that of a bunch of people who really want to take over and win.  they might just be happy the way things are, they might erroneously think that they can stop anything further just by not funding it or letting it out of committee and they can do it the way things are now and they don't have to have pressure cause then anything they do looks good.

No, the Bob Michel theory doesn't hold.  Bohner wants to be speaker.  The easiest way for him to do that at this point is to let the Democrats implode and not give them a target.

Why do we wait for elected Republicans dto do all of our work?  Why are we always the ones who bitch about them. The blogosphere has shown that we can carry memes.

It doesn't surprise me that Boehner smokes; his skin has that cured ham look that most smokers get, and its starting to hang off his face...like Obama.

Smokers over 30 are pretty easily spotted in a line-up -- especially women after you hear them talk or cough.  But hey, it is their choice.

Posted by: curious at September 12, 2010 03:29 PM (p302b)

You mean we might see Ace as a panelist on live TV someday?

Intriguing and frightening, all in the same lunch wrap.

Posted by: Ira Einhorn at September 12, 2010 03:41 PM (1OM4y)

Same here. The last movie I saw in a theater was Mission:Impossible and my daily habit of buying The Dispatch on the way to work came to an end shortly thereafter.

Fuck em.

Smokers over 30 are pretty easily spotted in a line-up -- especially women after you hear them talk or cough.  But hey, it is their choice.

Racist.

Fucking "Face the Nation" is still on television? Must be watched by the same clueless idiots who view msnbc. All nine of them.

And 161, that's some funny shit right there, my brother.

If I could find out what brand he smokes, I'd send a carton to my representative.

Smoking detrimental?

Well, I remind you that it was detriments like us that made this bloody Empire and the Izzat of the Raj. We'll take one of your cigars apiece and you shall watch us light up.

There are many ways to "set a good example for our country"....

I'm curious, why hasn't Obama and his sorry band of men been held to that standard?

I'm on day 15 without cigarettes.

Just sayin.

I cant watch Shieffer without getting pissed off. But what I gather from the internets the conversation went like this?

Schieffer - Would you be willing to negotiate if it means you get only part of what you seek?
Boehner - Yes
Schieffer - You heard it here folks, republicans are the party of NO

Schieffer - Do you smoke big tobacco?
Boehner - Matter of fact I do Bob.
Schieffer - Wouldn't you say causing 400,000 cancer deaths a year would disqualify you to be a future disgraced speaker?
Boehner - I didn't...
Schieffer - Let me interrupt you & remind the viewers at home that you hate the middle class. Thats a stunning admission.
Boehner - Its America Bob, smoking is legal and people are free to choose.
Schieffer - But times change. Are you aware of that. This isn't the 1800's. All races must come together. Do I need to remind you of the past 8 years prior to the last 2.3 years?
Schieffer - Jim Crow
Schieffer - By advocating big tobacco you advocate middle class people shooting themselves in the head? How do you live with yourself?
Boehner - No, suicide is illegal Bob.
Schieffer - Middle class.
Schieffer - Thats quite a tan. You know what tanning does to middle class health care costs? The CBO says it squeezes them. Let me ask you this congressman - you have some nerve being tan after what the last 8 years prior to the last 2.3 years did to the middle class, wouldn't you agree? And then if we skip the 8 years prior to that, and focus on the prior 4 years aren't you ashamed to be here still squeezing the middle class with your failed policies.
Boehner - Whats the question?
Schieffer - I'll ask the questions if you don't mind. Thats been the format here for 60 years. After we return our next guest will summarize the disgust American middle class feels towards an eight year period which ended 2.3 years ago.
Boehner - Thanks Bob, and thanks for having me on.
Schieffer - How dare you.