May 09, 2010
— DrewM And often.
Jeremy Clarkson of Top Gear begins an auto review with a page out of Atlas Shrugged.
There was a time, not that long ago, when no one in this country ever spoke about how much anyone earned. I remember once being in a Swedish tank when all of a sudden the captain turned and asked: “Right. How much did you make last year?” I couldn’t have been more taken aback if he’d asked me how often I had anal sex.Now, though, things are different. We are told, often, that the director-general of the BBC earns more than £800,000 and that this is an obscene amount of money. Right. I see. So what should he be paid? Half that? A quarter? Is £50,000 acceptable? To someone on the minimum wage, probably not.
Doubtless the bitter and the twisted looked at all those multi-millionaires in this newspaper’s recent Rich List and thought: “How can any one man possibly have a fortune of £1 billion?”
Why shouldn’t he? It is no skin off your nose. At the very least, you don’t have to sit next to him on a plane. And anyway, if the government took all his money away and distributed it evenly among the rest of the population, you’d be £16 richer and he’d be wondering why he spent his whole life working so damn hard.
He did. One thing IÂ’ve noticed over the years is that if you drive into London at 6am, half of the cars on the roads are Porsches and Astons. Whereas if you go in at ten to nine, theyÂ’re all Renaults. Simple solution, then. You want a nice car? Get up earlier and do more work.
This opinion no longer washes, though. I appear to be in a minority of one. People still want to be rich, but they donÂ’t want anyone else to get there first...
And there's a review of a Porsche I'll never own and don't care much about.
The first presidential candidate to run on this platform (and does one other thing) will receive the coveted DrewM. endorsement.
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Still agree with the spirit of the rant.
Posted by: logprof at May 09, 2010 03:17 PM (Mmw0q)
We looked at each other and wondered aloud whether the hippie-looking jackass driving it still lived in his mom's basement.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 09, 2010 03:17 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Professional Debate Team at May 09, 2010 03:18 PM (erIg9)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 09, 2010 07:17 PM (UOM4
how patriotic of you, making fun of your fellow Americans for expressing an opinion
Posted by: clapflagon at May 09, 2010 03:19 PM (Mmw0q)
how patriotic of you, making fun of
your fellow Americans for expressing an opinion
Posted by: clapflagon at May 09, 2010 07:19 PM (Mmw0q)"
It is patriotic. Don't you get it? They realize that Kerry supporters, particularly those who persist to this day, deserve derision and disrespect by anyone who loves this country.
All those SwiftBoat Vets told the fucking truth about that traitor Kerry, and Edwards is also disgraced. Any decent person dislikes a Kerry supporter greatly. Any patriot makes fun of them for their opinion.
Posted by: Sentient Nintendo 64 at May 09, 2010 03:25 PM (dUOK+)
Both of them have arrest me written on the side of the car. I don't drive mine much, too much hassle from cops that just want to see your car.
I am not kidding.
Posted by: Kemp at May 09, 2010 03:25 PM (2+9Yx)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 09, 2010 03:26 PM (UOM48)
I have a different take on it than Clarkson's.
What we have is a group of ruling elites who are very wealthy and want to pull up the 'ladder of success' so no one else can get to the 'top.'
These ruling elites now feel their place is to 'lead' the people by telling them how to live and distributing the wealth of others, i.e., the workers and producers.
Posted by: Randolph Mantooth at May 09, 2010 03:28 PM (eFWa0)
Posted by: Silky John Edwards at May 09, 2010 03:29 PM (UOM48)
We looked at each other and wondered aloud whether the hippie-looking jackass driving it still lived in his mom's basement.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 09, 2010 07:17 PM (UOM4
D'oh should have put it in 4wd and played a quick game of leap frog with him.
Posted by: Blazer at May 09, 2010 03:29 PM (t72+4)
This opinion no longer washes, though. I appear to be in a minority of one. People still want to be rich, but they donÂ’t want anyone else to get there first...
That wouldn't be "fair", would it?
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 09, 2010 03:29 PM (c0A3e)
If you are a guy like a Walton or Gates who builds your fortune by hard work, more power to you. If you are a jerk who uses CDS and hedges to screw around with the American economy, may zombie George Washington eat your brain.
Posted by: Ludicrous Speed at May 09, 2010 03:30 PM (PWj+8)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 09, 2010 07:26 PM (UOM4
It's attitudes like that that will guarantee the Democrats win in November!
Posted by: clapflagon at May 09, 2010 03:30 PM (Mmw0q)
Adam Carolla made a pilot episode of an American Top Gear, but NBC pulled it.
Posted by: Z Ryan at May 09, 2010 03:31 PM (cMo6P)
Corzine, Kennedy, Warren Buffett, and especially George Soros are examples of wealthy leftists who, since they have theirs, don't want others to make their own fortune.
They see themselves as gods whose place in the world is to rule.
Posted by: Randolph Mantooth at May 09, 2010 03:31 PM (eFWa0)
I have a different take on it than Clarkson's.
What we have is a group of ruling elites who are very wealthy and want to pull up the 'ladder of success' so no one else can get to the 'top.'
These ruling elites now feel their place is to 'lead' the people by telling them how to live and distributing the wealth of others, i.e., the workers and producers.
Did you hear that on your ipod or on your Playstation?
Posted by: Barry Obama's notetaker at May 09, 2010 03:32 PM (qEf7Y)
I ascribe it to patriotism, which I imagine is a real challenge for any British man today. He mocks our military every now and then while showing love for his troops. I think of him as our outspoken gasbag patriot. Someone we all know an example of... and they aren't bad people. Clarkson also mocks the nanny state and the loser, and he is better at communicating how awesome a car is than most other people in his field.
Posted by: Lex Luthor, Ruler of Australia at May 09, 2010 03:32 PM (dUOK+)
Posted by: Barry Obama's notetaker
Well done
/tips hat
Posted by: Randolph Mantooth at May 09, 2010 03:33 PM (eFWa0)
Why should a government employee's salary be a secret?
Posted by: snapdragon at May 09, 2010 03:34 PM (5Etcj)
Posted by: Lex Luthor, Ruler of Australia at May 09, 2010 07:32 PM (dUOK+)
Lex Luthor, ruler of Australia... activate the machine.
Posted by: General Zod at May 09, 2010 03:35 PM (PWj+8)
Posted by: Gordon Brown at May 09, 2010 03:35 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Gordon Brown at May 09, 2010 07:35 PM (UOM4
--Just to warn you, Sir, you may have to speak to some bigoted women.
Posted by: logprof at May 09, 2010 03:36 PM (Mmw0q)
I couldnÂ’t have been more taken aback if heÂ’d asked me how often I had anal sex.
I was raised to not talk about money or how much you make. And certainly not to ask anyone that information. Don't ask a woman her weight and age (and for the love of God don't guess at it); don't ask a man how much money he makes.
Posted by: Z Ryan at May 09, 2010 03:37 PM (cMo6P)
So, you mean if I got up 6 a.m. instead of getting up at 9 or ten a.m. to go to my job at Burger King I could have made manager by now? Yea, that type of ridiculous thinking is exactly why the Democrats will continue to win.
Posted by: snapdragqueen at May 09, 2010 03:37 PM (t72+4)
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 09, 2010 03:37 PM (c0A3e)
I don't resent the rich. But I resent it when they feel the need to tell the rest of us how to live and how much taxes we should pay, and how NOW, after they have their vast fortune, they're all in favor of government regulation.
Open markets, eased regulation, free enterprise, and small government have a uncanny knack of going out of favor when people have secured a fortune.
Posted by: Randolph Mantooth at May 09, 2010 03:37 PM (eFWa0)
So, you mean if I got up 6 a.m. instead of getting up at 9 or ten a.m. to go to my job at Burger King I could have made manager by now? Yea, that type of ridiculous thinking is exactly why the Democrats will continue to win.
Posted by: snapdragqueen at May 09, 2010 07:37 PM (t72+4)
I you got up at 6AM in the morning and studied for your MBA, and went to school after work, you could be a manager. Also, I sure Burger King most likely has a manager track (if you were motivated to ask about it).
And, BTW, that's what I did, I worked full time and get my advanced degree at night to get to where I am now.
Posted by: Ludicrous Speed at May 09, 2010 03:40 PM (PWj+8)
Posted by: unknown jane at May 09, 2010 03:41 PM (5/yRG)
Posted by: snapdragqueen
You're just owed the world, aren't you?
Posted by: Z Ryan at May 09, 2010 03:41 PM (cMo6P)
The part where he invented some people's opinions and then decried their irrational position?
Doubtless the bitter and the twisted looked at all those multi-millionaires in this newspaperÂ’s recent Rich List and thought...
I mute Top Gear whenever this jackass is talking...great show otherwise.
Posted by: snapdragon at May 09, 2010 03:41 PM (5Etcj)
Posted by: ChicagoJedi at May 09, 2010 03:43 PM (WZFkG)
Posted by: snapdragon at May 09, 2010 07:41 PM (5Etcj)
I mute you when you are typing. Otherwise a decent blog. FU
Posted by: Ronster at May 09, 2010 03:43 PM (I+U8m)
I you got up at 6AM in the morning and studied for your MBA, and went to school after work, you could be a manager. Also, I sure Burger King most likely has a manager track (if you were motivated to ask about it).
Now thats just crazy talking. That would take away time from sitting in moms basement with my crack pipe trolling conservative sites.
Posted by: snapdragqueen at May 09, 2010 03:43 PM (t72+4)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 09, 2010 03:43 PM (eNxMU)
And yes, I find it the height of bad manners to ask how much a person makes or has. It's un-American...as we are supposed to judge people by something better than their bank accounts, salaries, and inheritences (just like we're not to judge people by their outward appearances).
I blame slavish following of pro sports and Hollywood...oh, and wanting to "be European". Blech, we're American...and supposed to be above such things.
Posted by: unknown jane at May 09, 2010 03:43 PM (5/yRG)
Posted by: pep at May 09, 2010 03:44 PM (0K3p3)
Posted by: Z Ryan at May 09, 2010 03:44 PM (cMo6P)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 09, 2010 03:44 PM (UOM48)
James May has always been a libertarian under the Ayn Rand philosophy
Posted by: kbdabear at May 09, 2010 03:44 PM (sYxEE)
Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at May 09, 2010 03:45 PM (zgd5N)
Unless they work for me, then I insist that they make less than I do.
Posted by: SlaveDog at May 09, 2010 03:45 PM (W+E+o)
I you got up at 6AM in the morning and studied for your MBA, and went to school after work, you could be a manager. Also, I sure Burger King most likely has a manager track (if you were motivated to ask about it).
Now thats just crazy talking. That would take away time from sitting in moms basement with my crack pipe trolling conservative sites.
Posted by: snapdragqueen at May 09, 2010 07:43 PM (t72+4)
yea, you are right, got a good meth supplier yet? Also, any tips on how to rig a Social Security full disability rating?
Posted by: Ludicrous Speed at May 09, 2010 03:46 PM (PWj+8)
He is belittling those who demonize the Aston drivers up early.
It's a point Snapdragon deliberately ignores, but who cares? He's bitter for a reason, and it ain't because he's so happy.
Jeremy is hardly inventing the opinion he is mocking.
Posted by: Lex Luthor, Ruler of Australia at May 09, 2010 03:47 PM (dUOK+)
Posted by: kbdabear at May 09, 2010 03:47 PM (sYxEE)
. Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 09, 2010 03:48 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: CavMedic at May 09, 2010 03:50 PM (rYFmu)
Posted by: snapdragon at May 09, 2010 07:34 PM
Or his college transcripts?
Posted by: kbdabear at May 09, 2010 03:50 PM (sYxEE)
I can't see how it would be detrimental to their programming.
Posted by: SlaveDog at May 09, 2010 03:51 PM (W+E+o)
Posted by: snapdragon at May 09, 2010 07:34 PM
Or his college transcripts?
Posted by: kbdabear at May 09, 2010 07:50 PM (sYxEE)
or his birth certificate?
Posted by: Ludicrous Speed at May 09, 2010 03:51 PM (PWj+8)
Clarkson (and May) are both proper classical liberals. You stay out of my hair, I stay out of yours.
By that, Clarkson is well.... an American, a right, proper, Camaro driving, mullet wearing, PBR drinking American. Someone should tell him.
Posted by: GeoSTI at May 09, 2010 03:51 PM (chyhr)
Posted by: Ronster at May 09, 2010 03:51 PM (I+U8m)
I couldnÂ’t have been more taken aback if heÂ’d asked me how often I had anal sex.
You know what? Forget it. Too easy.
Posted by: Andi and Levi at May 09, 2010 03:51 PM (8OTio)
Posted by: pep at May 09, 2010 07:44 PM
Mine caught fire and burned an acre of land.
Posted by: Ford Pinto guy. at May 09, 2010 03:52 PM (4XzsU)
Posted by: TimothyJ at May 09, 2010 03:52 PM (IKKIf)
Why should a government employee's salary be a secret?
Posted by: snapdragon at May 09, 2010 07:34 PM
Or his campaign donor list?
Or a videotape of him bashing Israel and jews at a CAIR function?
Posted by: Blazer at May 09, 2010 03:52 PM (t72+4)
I make a lot of money because I read and inform people. I know important things too. Go ahead, ask me what I know about
Posted by: David Brooks at May 09, 2010 03:52 PM (sYxEE)
Posted by: maddogg at May 09, 2010 03:53 PM (4zspv)
Posted by: pep at May 09, 2010 07:44 PM
It was indeed a smokin' ride.
Posted by: pep at May 09, 2010 03:53 PM (0K3p3)
Posted by: sonnyspats at May 09, 2010 03:53 PM (68tQb)
As I said, the jackass is ranting at imaginary people.
What else is there to notice?
Except maybe that this clown is an employee of the British government.
Posted by: snapdragon at May 09, 2010 03:53 PM (5Etcj)
He really isn't bitter unless he's discussing the faults of his own nation. If he's insulting other countries, it always seems to be either simple making fun of stereotypes or military bragging (often bragging about something Lockheed made, lol). In this day and time, it's hard to see Europeans making fun of America as anything but antiamericanism, but in this case, I don't see it that way. There's a difference between nationalism humor and hatred of freedom, capitalism, our way of life.
I don't think Clarkson's style of humor is understood by enough folks. I bet a lot of the antiAmerican psychos out there laugh at his mocking if the Mustang and think he's a commie like them, even, and are shocked when he says something I'd expect him to say.
Posted by: Lex Luthor, Ruler of Australia at May 09, 2010 03:55 PM (dUOK+)
How I made it with the IQ of a King Charles Spaniel? Definitely nobody's business!
Posted by: C*ntessa Brewer at May 09, 2010 03:55 PM (sYxEE)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6OSYOY64F8
Posted by: Jess at May 09, 2010 03:56 PM (59PMf)
Yeah-I like Top Gear and Clarkson is funny, but he also likes to pop off with anti-American bull$hit from time to time, so screw him.
I tend to see this kind of Brit v. American Bashing to be more like a brotherly taunt. Coming from Clarkson, it doesn't bother me at all because there is a lot he worships about American Culture.
Coming from others it can be tedious. Like American ex-pats that adopt the accent with the attitude.
Posted by: garrett at May 09, 2010 03:57 PM (+dlpF)
Posted by: pep
My dad had the V8 version. Said it was ugly but could kick the asses of any of his friend's Mustangs etc. Maybe you should have dropped the extra cash for the big engine...
Posted by: Ranba Ral at May 09, 2010 03:57 PM (l2CML)
Why should a government employee's salary be a secret?
Posted by: snapdragon at May 09, 2010 07:34 PM (5Etcj)
My dog's shits are more intelligent that you. Are you naturally this stupid, or is this something you work at?
Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Professional Debate Team at May 09, 2010 03:58 PM (erIg9)
Oh, and thanks for the Mother's Day card. *cough cough*
Posted by: snapdragon's mom at May 09, 2010 03:58 PM (UOM48)
They are the majority by far. they are imaginary? Why would anyone pretend that?
I wonder if Snapdragon even read what he's condemning. The fact that wealth is not associated with hard work is something anyone familiar with England understands well. It's a nation of whining about how there aren't enough benefits from the government, and very little real innovation. It's a dying nation.
snappy is simultaneously being the mindset being criticized while denying such a mindset is anything but imagined. That way he can pretend no one has pointed at the flaws in his worldview. That's cowardice.
Posted by: Lex Luthor, Ruler of Australia at May 09, 2010 03:59 PM (dUOK+)
Posted by: Lex Luthor, Ruler of Australia
I've only ever called one man a coward, and that's Brian Doyal Murray. But snapdragon rates up there.
Posted by: Z Ryan at May 09, 2010 04:00 PM (cMo6P)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6OSYOY64F8
Posted by: Jess at May 09, 2010 07:56 PM
I love cars, and the tone with the background music damn near made me cry
Posted by: kbdabear at May 09, 2010 04:00 PM (sYxEE)
Isn't the BBC subsidized by the British government?
Why should a government employee's salary be a secret?
Posted by: snapdragon at May 09, 2010 07:34 PM (5Etcj)
You know what else is funded by government subsidies? PBS and NPR. I guess that means I should have the freedom to fire every liberal American hating pos that works for them and have a say in their programming?
Right?
Posted by: Blazer at May 09, 2010 04:01 PM (t72+4)
Posted by: maddogg at May 09, 2010 04:02 PM (4zspv)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel (Parts Unknown, Moron Party) at May 09, 2010 04:02 PM (swuwV)
Posted by: snap's uncle at May 09, 2010 04:02 PM (sYxEE)
You know what?
I was in Vietnam.
-John Kerry
No shit? Shoulda mmentioned it, John. We'd have put it out there.
Posted by: MSM at May 09, 2010 04:03 PM (oplhu)
Posted by: CavMedic at May 09, 2010 04:04 PM (rYFmu)
Posted by: Anachronda at May 09, 2010 04:04 PM (LD+ZJ)
Posted by: bergerbilder at May 09, 2010 04:06 PM (S1Ttj)
Posted by: Z Ryan at May 09, 2010 04:07 PM (cMo6P)
yeah there are absolutely zero people like yourself in England, whiny fucking tapeworms that live off the sweat of everyone else's brow.
Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Professional Debate Team at May 09, 2010 04:07 PM (erIg9)
Thanks for your time.
Posted by: Z Ryan at May 09, 2010 04:08 PM (cMo6P)
Posted by: Anachronda at May 09, 2010 04:08 PM (LD+ZJ)
And it really is crap. They put disclaimers on old Sesame Street that has less brainwashing and is more strictly educational. The disclaimed says that stuff isn't for education because it's from our backwards 80s and 90s.
Now, they have a puppet for Bill Oreilly on Fox News as an example of evil (I'm not kidding, I was flipping around a few months back, and that's what they are feeding our kids).
I actually love the idea of public TV, and I have not problem with disclosing their salaries. Neither idea is in conflict with Jeremy's point that people who want a nicer life can actually have a nicer life if they take responsibility, and cannot have a nicer life by hoping the government will take from the wealthy (of course, sending their investments and future prosperity away).
Watch how hard liberals fight to avoid this basic argument about individual freedom and responsibility and happiness. They do this because they are not liberal at all.
Posted by: Lex Luthor, Ruler of Australia at May 09, 2010 04:08 PM (dUOK+)
#86
Easy dude. If I have Peggy Noonan on next week are we cool?
Posted by: Jim Lehrer at May 09, 2010 08:03 PMNo, at the dinner party at the Van Vorhees mansion, she got tipsy and spilled Merlot all over my perfectly creased pants
Posted by: David Brooks at May 09, 2010 04:09 PM (sYxEE)
I couldnÂ’t have been more taken aback if heÂ’d asked me how often I had anal sex.
I was raised to not talk about money or how much you make. And certainly not to ask anyone that information. Don't ask a woman her weight and age (and for the love of God don't guess at it); don't ask a man how much money he makes.
Posted by: Z
Ryan at May 09, 2010 07:37 PM (cMo6P)
Z you are so right, but sometimes we don't even know how we offend others. I have a friend who lived in S Africa. He is a Southerner. We usually think it is polite and small talk to ask someone what they do. He found that such questions in SA were considered extremely rude.
There you have it. None of your fucking business is the rule most places.
Posted by: Kemp at May 09, 2010 04:09 PM (2+9Yx)
My first and current car is an old '77 Country Squire with the wood trim. O.k., its not actually mine its moms, but she lets me use it to go on my weed, PBR and Cheetos runs.
Posted by: snapdragqueen at May 09, 2010 04:10 PM (t72+4)
It is if some nutjob in a Peterbilt is trying to kill you
Posted by: Dennis Weaver at May 09, 2010 04:11 PM (sYxEE)
Socialism for the rich. Capitalism for the poor.
I don't know that this is an "Old Money" paradigm, but it surely applies to those individuals/institutions that have finally won under one system only to, once triumphed, change the game.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at May 09, 2010 04:11 PM (swuwV)
It's a good rule. I'd only ask if the other party brought it up.
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 09, 2010 04:11 PM (c0A3e)
Posted by: snapdragon's mom at May 09, 2010 04:12 PM (UOM48)
We just pointed out in the other thread how dependent the Red states are on welfare form the Blue states to survive, uncle.
Why do the most shrill "libertarians" like Clarkson always turn out to be on the government dole?
Posted by: snapdragon at May 09, 2010 04:13 PM (5Etcj)
Screw the Porsche, here's the car I want. http://tinyurl.com/yee8ax7
That thing is a beast. An absolute beast. I don't know what I'll have to do to get one, but then again, I don't really care.
Any word on the price? I'm guessing somewhere in the $200k range...
Posted by: Fortunate Son at May 09, 2010 04:13 PM (ssWVX)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 09, 2010 04:14 PM (PQY7w)
#103
Brooks you are such a dick. It's just like you to make a play on the drunk broad. Because of you I had to put up with Van Voorhees all night. Serves you right.
Posted by: Kathleen Parker at May 09, 2010 04:14 PM (8OTio)
Seems like they have may have woken up a bit.
Posted by: LifeTrek at May 09, 2010 04:15 PM (ykFmN)
#103
Brooks you are such a dick. It's just like you to make a play on the drunk broad. Because of you I had to put up with Van Voorhees all night. Serves you right.
Posted by: Kathleen Parker at May 09, 2010 08:14 PM (8OTio)
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
Posted by: David Brooks at May 09, 2010 04:18 PM (PWj+8)
See, that's the difference between us and them. I don't think any of us begrudge him his success for his shitty, ghostwritten tripe—but we do get pissed when he acts as though he is a humble, average American who just wants to help the little guy by "spreading the wealth around."
How many inner city children could he be sending to Harvard with a portion of his profits? Far from me to tell him what to do with his wealth, but he's more than happy to tell us what to do with ours...
Posted by: Fortunate Son at May 09, 2010 04:19 PM (ssWVX)
Holy mother of God!
That is one bad ride. I'd guess $350K. If you have the money, buy it and store it, it will be worth twice that in 5 years.
Posted by: Kemp at May 09, 2010 04:20 PM (2+9Yx)
We just pointed out in the other thread how dependent the Red states are on welfare form the Blue states to survive, uncle."
This is a common lie by the blue staters to cover up the higher cost of living in their 'paradise' states.
No, the idea that red states are dependent on blue ones is patently absurd at this point, where the only solvent states with great economies left are red as fuck.
You democrats own the worst hellholes in this country.
Posted by: Lex Luthor, Ruler of Australia at May 09, 2010 04:20 PM (dUOK+)
Sorry for the o/t, but it was kind of on topic. Sort of. If you squint your eyes.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 09, 2010 04:21 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: sonnyspats at May 09, 2010 04:21 PM (68tQb)
We just pointed out in the other thread how dependent the Red states are on welfare form the Blue states to survive, uncle."
This is a common lie by the blue staters to cover up the higher cost of living in their 'paradise' states.
No, the idea that red states are dependent on blue ones is patently absurd at this point, where the only solvent states with great economies left are red as fuck.
You democrats own the worst hellholes in this country.
Posted by: Lex Luthor, Ruler of Australia at May 09, 2010 08:20 PM
(dUOK+)
You
democrats created own the worst hellholes in this country. FIFY
Posted by: Ludicrous Speed at May 09, 2010 04:21 PM (PWj+8)
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
That sentence might be the raison d'être for my next screenplay. Brilliant.
Posted by: Chris Buckley at May 09, 2010 04:22 PM (8OTio)
We just pointed out in the other thread how dependent the Red states are on welfare form the Blue states to survive, uncle.
Yeah, the red states are totally living off of Detroit, Newark, Oakland, and East St. Louis. Gravy train.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 09, 2010 04:25 PM (oplhu)
It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.
That sentence might be the raison d'être for my next screenplay. Brilliant.
Posted by: Chris Buckley at May 09, 2010 08:22 PM (8OTio)
Posted by: Ludicrous Speed at May 09, 2010 04:26 PM (PWj+8)
Posted by: rdbrewer at May 09, 2010 04:26 PM (KGYya)
Jane, I've often thought the same shit.
WWI is the fault. Their entire upper class was basically killed, and the country bankrupted. This lead to the pussy response to Hitler, the rise of NYC (they were in debt to us for the war), sound like china now? and the break up of the Empire.
WWI fucked it all up.
Did I mention, Lenin? I have hours of history, Don't get me started!
Posted by: Kemp at May 09, 2010 04:27 PM (2+9Yx)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 09, 2010 04:27 PM (UOM48)
I don't begrudge it to them. Their country is a pathetic shadow of its former self. They've been reduced from the nation that produced Churchill to a bunch of whiners on the dole. Bashing us is really all they have left. I've always had the sneaking suspicion that Clarkson likes the U.S.A more than any self-respecting Englishman would ever let on.
Posted by: Angry Beaver at May 09, 2010 04:28 PM (XFrSe)
#125
Whatever. You ever had Aaron Eckhart star in a movie based on something you wrote? Aaron Eckhart man!
Posted by: Chris Buckley at May 09, 2010 04:29 PM (8OTio)
Sorry for the o/t, but it was kind of on topic. Sort of. If you squint your eyes.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 09, 2010 08:21 PM (UOM4
Thats because the Brits really were the imperialistic conquerers that colonized the majority of the globe. Countries like India,south Africa and Hong Kong remember. I just think all the third world revolutionaries are taking it a step further to include the US in their push back .
Posted by: sonnyspats at May 09, 2010 04:30 PM (68tQb)
Guam didn't capsize, but Drudge has a link up about Chicago tipping over into Lake Michigan. So there's that.
Wow! Really? Certainly changes my analysis for Illinois in November. Thanks for the tip.
Posted by: Michael Barone at May 09, 2010 04:32 PM (8OTio)
Clarkson and his teammate, May, are on my "five freebie" list. Hammond, not so much. Too... bouncy, or something.
Posted by: Filly at May 09, 2010 04:32 PM (dSJW9)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 09, 2010 04:32 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Lincontf at May 09, 2010 04:32 PM (qSRHZ)
You know what?
I was in Vietnam.
-John Kerry
No shit? Shoulda mmentioned it, John. We'd have put it out there.
Posted by: MSM at May 09, 2010 08:03 PM (oplhu)
But thanks for blaming Nixon for me when I told you useless idiots that he had ordered me up the river into Cambodia! In Christmas of 1968! ........just a short time before he took the oath of office..........
Posted by: John effin Kerry at May 09, 2010 04:34 PM (MJmA4)
I make a lot of money because I read and inform people. I know important things too. Go ahead, ask me what I know about
Posted by: David Brooks at May 09, 2010 07:52 PM (sYxEE)
David...when was the last time you had anal sex.
...insert popcorn munching noise here...
Posted by: torabora at May 09, 2010 04:38 PM (3iMSh)
The Brits only had 131 SOLs in their entire inventory at the start of the Rev War.
The SOL cost is what the Carrier equivalent would be and even that's a stretch.
Posted by: JavaJoe at May 09, 2010 04:39 PM (e9JZd)
You are right, and we are headed the same way. Once you start class warfare, it is hard to go back. We are in full war mood now, and if the democrats keep winning, we will be UK in 10 years.
Learn Chinese.
Posted by: Kemp at May 09, 2010 04:40 PM (2+9Yx)
Why do the most shrill "libertarians" like Clarkson always turn out to be on the government dole?
fuck is this we shit asshole? you're a continual fountain of bullshit aren't you.
Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Professional Debate Team at May 09, 2010 04:42 PM (erIg9)
Posted by: steevy at May 09, 2010 04:43 PM (6ApNg)
No arguing, because I don't know. Educate me.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 09, 2010 04:43 PM (UOM48)
If you're talking invasion fleet not AC equivalents then yes if you're talking SOLs then look into Trafalgar.
Posted by: JavaJoe at May 09, 2010 04:44 PM (e9JZd)
Notice how 'Neftlix's' pop-up ad always seems to beat fireox's popup blocker?
gee, I wonder if firefox gets a little $$ for that glitch...?
Posted by: Dynomutt sees dead people at May 09, 2010 04:44 PM (Uf4aV)
Posted by: JavaJoe at May 09, 2010 04:46 PM (e9JZd)
Posted by: logprof at May 09, 2010 04:46 PM (Mmw0q)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 09, 2010 04:46 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 09, 2010 08:46 PM (UOM4
--I promise, I won't tell you who wins.
Posted by: logprof at May 09, 2010 04:47 PM (Mmw0q)
If you're talking invasion fleet not AC equivalents then yes if you're talking SOLs then look into Trafalgar.
20 years in the navy and over 14years seatime and i have no clue wtf this means
Posted by: ncj thinking wtf at May 09, 2010 04:49 PM (gg4j2)
Gonna go get in bed to watch The Pacific on our "free" bedroom HBO.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 09, 2010 04:50 PM (UOM48)
#120
Jane, I think the two World Wars broke the collective spirit of the great powers of Europe. In response, they turned away from any sort of nationalism....They became ultra-liberal, honoring all cultures to the point of losing themselves.
Posted by: Cravin Morehead at May 09, 2010 04:50 PM (sE08M)
Posted by: Ranba Ral at May 09, 2010 04:51 PM (l2CML)
I saw the "American South" road trip, and yeah, parts of that stung-- such as the section in which Clarkson was ranting about the slow Katrina clean-up. I was shouting at the TV: "DO YOU HAVE ANY FUCKING IDEA, JEREMY, HOW MUCH MONEY PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS DONATED, AND HOW IRREVOCABLY FUCKED UP NEW ORLEANS' GOVERNANCE IS?!" I'm thinking he doesn't, and I can see how someone not familiar with the colossal pre-Jindal fuckup that was Louisiana (still is, in many ways) can reach the conclusion he did.
But the show tweaks everybody, particularly the French. There have been several Americans in the "Reasonably Priced Car" segment; James May once went to LA to interview Jay Leno and test drive a hydrogen car (he also did an entire program about Apollo and high-altitude flying here); all three went to Utah to drive the salt flats; and most recently they took a road trip in three American muscle cars which they first mocked, but all three admitted in the end, on camera, that they'd fallen in love with them.
So yeah, there are cringable moments of anti-Americanism, but I don't think any of them truly hates the United States. For example, Clarkson kept making anti-American jabs during the "motorcycles across Vietnam" special, and, as he rode into North Korea, he was yelling about how awesome he was for doing something in three days the entire American military couldn't do in a decade... and then he promptly fell off the bike, cracked two ribs, and didn't say anything about it ever again. More than anything, Jeremy Clarkson has a sense of humor about himself, or we would have never seen that faceplant.
Posted by: Filly at May 09, 2010 04:52 PM (dSJW9)
Posted by: steevy at May 09, 2010 04:54 PM (6ApNg)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at May 09, 2010 04:54 PM (7VvJB)
A couple of years? That's a bit optimistic.
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 09, 2010 04:54 PM (c0A3e)
Posted by: steevy at May 09, 2010 04:58 PM (6ApNg)
Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Professional Debate Team at May 09, 2010 04:58 PM (erIg9)
Posted by: steevy at May 09, 2010 05:01 PM (6ApNg)
Posted by: Steve Poling at May 09, 2010 05:01 PM (db5YN)
Nah, it just means that the fluff brains self-deselect and you only see the quality. I just didn't have the sense to understand that back then. Oh, and yeah, I stunk on ice when it came to picking up women. It worked out well in the long run, though, so yay for me.
Posted by: pep at May 09, 2010 05:04 PM (0K3p3)
Posted by: ncj needs coffee at May 09, 2010 05:04 PM (gg4j2)
Today I was in a tiny little town and purposely got a book at a self-owned shop. It was Ayn Rand's The Art of Writing Fiction. Counter guy looks at the title, frowns, and says, "Just don't go believing any of her propaganda." Normally, I hate, I hate, I HATE conflict, but I said, with absolutely no trace of being amused, "Actually, I just finished Atlas Shrugged, and I think she's right about a lot of things." He laughed an embarrassed laugh and dropped it.
So, thanks for the lesson, commies. Next time I'll be sure to get my books cheaper from used brokers on Amazon, where the text arrives in a handy hobo-stuffing, carbon footprint-leaving cardboard box... but without an ounce of attitude.
Posted by: Filly at May 09, 2010 05:05 PM (dSJW9)
Posted by: Jones at May 09, 2010 05:06 PM (JL3qV)
/Of course, they all aren't that way, but you'll find a good many who still think of us as backwards colonialists.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 09, 2010 05:09 PM (yfJ6g)
@ jane d'oh #120 The root of the problem in my opinion is a combination of a few generations worth of leftist propaganda pushed in the schools while being reinforced by the media.The schools plant the seed, it's fertilized and watered by the media as they grow up,and the PC police do the weeding.
I dont think they see themselves as being taken over.They probably just think they are being enlightened and fair minded.
Posted by: unenrolled at May 09, 2010 05:10 PM (g5WXB)
Posted by: Bill C at May 09, 2010 05:10 PM (I+7Zv)
#164 - The Brits are a long way from a "downfall". Get a grip and get real.
Posted by: A Casual Observation at May 09, 2010 05:10 PM (ITzbJ)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 09, 2010 05:11 PM (yfJ6g)
Posted by: steevy at May 09, 2010 05:11 PM (6ApNg)
You're right Jones after endless defenses of their Empire they decided to defend everything is to defend nothing.
Posted by: JavaJoe at May 09, 2010 05:12 PM (e9JZd)
Posted by: CavMedic at May 09, 2010 05:12 PM (rYFmu)
Posted by: A Casual Observation at May 09, 2010 05:13 PM (ITzbJ)
Posted by: Bob Murphy at May 09, 2010 05:14 PM (e9JZd)
With the comeback being ""underpaid, undersexed and under Eisenhower".
"The British regarded us then as well-meaning but blundering intercessors whom they rather preferred to have on their island than the Jerries. We were, in the well-known phrase, 'overpaid, oversexed and over here', and we were in British eyes overdecorated, overstaffed, overmaintenanced and overbearing."
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 09, 2010 05:14 PM (yfJ6g)
Did I say mom's, possessive? I meant to say moms, plural, even if they're singular.
Posted by: A Casual Observation at May 09, 2010 05:16 PM (ITzbJ)
---
BTW, Hammond did a BBC documentary on D-Day that was quite good.
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at May 09, 2010 05:18 PM (ieMxB)
#176
Not to be all Mark Steyn, but I'm sorry to say, It's over.
Just a matter of time for a variety of reasons unfortunately.
Posted by: Delta Smelt at May 09, 2010 05:20 PM (8OTio)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 09, 2010 05:24 PM (yfJ6g)
Posted by: Drew in MO at May 09, 2010 05:31 PM (j6r2e)
Posted by: Filly at May 09, 2010 08:32 PM (dSJW9)
Short. The word you're looking for is short.
Posted by: fozzy at May 09, 2010 05:33 PM (ccEuN)
Posted by: Cowboy at May 09, 2010 05:38 PM (XYcTY)
Posted by: A Casual Observation at May 09, 2010 05:39 PM (ITzbJ)
Posted by: Filly at May 09, 2010 08:32 PM (dSJW9)
Nnnnnooooooo, there are jockeys---shorter than me, and I'm 5-4-- who I'd do in a Derby minute. I really like Hammond, but only as a friend. It just seems like he wouldn't submit to a requisite cuddle once the deed was done...he'd dash off to refine plutonium, or raft Niagra Falls, or huff cooking spray, or something. For some reason, he also strikes me as the most liberal of the three, maybe because he doesn't tend to mention politics as much as Clarkson or May.
Posted by: Filly at May 09, 2010 05:41 PM (dSJW9)
Yeah, a pretty ridiculous stretch, really.
Posted by: Waterhouse at May 09, 2010 06:09 PM (9Ycb2)
Selfish people are a bain on the planet. And too many of them then pursue power in all the same mean-spirites fashions.
Posted by: Rose at May 09, 2010 06:10 PM (BYsJS)
Posted by: Henry Ford at May 09, 2010 06:44 PM (hjyb5)
Posted by: David Brooks at May 09, 2010 07:52 PM (sYxEE)
David...when was the last time you had anal sex.
I'm not sure. What time is it?
Posted by: David Brooks at May 09, 2010 06:57 PM (oplhu)
Posted by: zentaiStoreA at May 09, 2010 10:44 PM (oLug3)
Posted by: Henry Ford at May 09, 2010 10:44 PM (hjyb5)"
Indeed, the Mustang is a compelling car. And I bet Top Gear revisits the car. They panned the Mustang a few years back and were hounded for lying about the size of the engine in the car that failed to beat a horse.
While the Mustang is much better than many alternatives, it's also much better than past Mustangs. It's still a live rear end, I believe, so it's going to pay a price for that when you turn. I bet it's hard to beat for the dollar, but still outperformed by some consumer priced cars. Look forward to the Top Gear coverage.
Posted by: Lex Luthor, Ruler of Australia at May 09, 2010 11:00 PM (dUOK+)
Do lefties really think that's what it's all about, I wonder? What I consider hard work is putting in overtime, like 12 hour days of figuring out new ways to earn your customer's dollars, networking with people, taking risks (like hiring employees or buying equipment), leasing or buying a building, company vehicles, inventing things, taking risks etc. You can lose sleep or sour relationships doing that sort of thing. Success isn't guaranteed. But it shouldn't be a mystery why the people steering the ship make more money if they succeed. Who decided how much the person on top makes? The customers did. On the other hand, anyone can haul dirt, which is why it only costs a case of beer to get a buddy to help you with yardwork.
The other counterargument is children of rich parents who may be spoiled and useless and do nothing to earn what they have. Simple answer is "too fucking bad." Any law that would prevent people from giving other people money gratis would no doubt make low-to-average people far worse off than rich people.
Posted by: fb at May 10, 2010 01:31 AM (Bu9Jo)
Posted by: fb at May 10, 2010 05:31 AM (Bu9Jo)
Do you expect them to know what hard work at the intellectual level is?
Posted by: blackrockmarauder at May 10, 2010 03:34 AM (0ZKiP)
Hammond is the hip one, Clarkson is the bully boy, and May is the geek. Their schitck relies on English public school archetypes and I don't think it goes much deeper than that. The politics are secondary.
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