June 29, 2010

S&P 500 just broke though 1,040 barrier
— Monty

Check here. At the time of writing, the index is at 1,039.01. Here's an explanation of why this is bad news if it closes at this level. Basically, the problem is that the next support is all the way down at 800 or so.

Posted by: Monty at 11:29 AM | Comments (93)
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1
That's like 3000%!!!!

Posted by: Dang Straights at June 29, 2010 11:31 AM (fx8sm)

2
in b4 unexpected

Posted by: a proud ewaster at June 29, 2010 11:33 AM (uFokq)

3

Never been as big of a believer in support levels as much as capitalists who think, damn, stocks are getting cheap, I could make me some money.

Leave it alone and the market will fix itself.

Posted by: AndrewsDad at June 29, 2010 11:33 AM (C2//T)

4 Is this a big fuckin' deal?

Posted by: Joe Biden, frozen custard czar at June 29, 2010 11:33 AM (4Kl5M)

5 can you short sell the entire S&P?  can you short a S&P ETF?

Posted by: Ben at June 29, 2010 11:33 AM (wuv1c)

6 WHERES MY BRANDY AND CONDOMS????!?!??!?!

Posted by: Crazed Sex Poodle at June 29, 2010 11:33 AM (ngD76)

7


WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Posted by: s'moron at June 29, 2010 11:34 AM (UaxA0)

8 It will be fine once they release the Second Chakra and all those Green Jobs appear.

Posted by: Al Gore at June 29, 2010 11:34 AM (UYace)

9 \
..\
.....\
........\

(testing)

Posted by: s'moron at June 29, 2010 11:35 AM (UaxA0)

10

I take it that the S&P 500 just broke though 1,040 barrier ON THE WAY DOWN?

Yeah, that might be bad.

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at June 29, 2010 11:35 AM (oIp16)

Posted by: Dang Straights at June 29, 2010 11:36 AM (fx8sm)

12 I need the Cliff's notes version of that chart. What the hell does it mean?

Posted by: Learflyer at June 29, 2010 11:36 AM (5aVOy)

13
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__ _ ___>*<___ _ ___


Better?

Posted by: s'moron at June 29, 2010 11:37 AM (UaxA0)

14
What the hell does it mean?

we = f*cked

Posted by: Dang Straights at June 29, 2010 11:37 AM (fx8sm)

15 Sleigh ride to Hell!!

Posted by: stuiec at June 29, 2010 11:37 AM (7AOgy)

16 Is that the S&P or my Handicap? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: President Barack Hussien Obama at June 29, 2010 11:38 AM (ngD76)

17 13, don't be a smart ASCII all the time

Posted by: Joe Biden, diplomat at June 29, 2010 11:38 AM (4Kl5M)

18
Did the S&P 500 break support in all 57 states?

Posted by: B H Obama at June 29, 2010 11:39 AM (v1gw3)

19

Will all due respect, "Technical Analysis" is like reading tea leaves. Make that goat entrails.

That said, the Obamunists are ruining the economy, driving debt in nominal and real (as % of GDP) terms to unprecedented levels.

Funny how the Commiecrats who harped about Uncle Ron's debt failed to mention that in real, as a % of GDP, terms, it was falling.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 29, 2010 11:39 AM (ujg0T)

20 It will be fine once they release the Second Chakra and all those Green Jobs appear.

Posted by: Al Gore at June 29, 2010 03:34 PM (UYace)

"Green Jobs" is not what appears when the Second Chakra is released.  Unless "Green Job" is the new slang for the technique massueses use to release Algore's Second Chakra.

Posted by: stuiec at June 29, 2010 11:40 AM (7AOgy)

21

Interesting

If you take the linear progression of the S&P over the last 40 years, we're right about where we should be, even in this trough. 

From 1995 to present, the entire value-based nature of the S&P was thrown out the window.

Posted by: s'moron at June 29, 2010 11:40 AM (UaxA0)

22
As long as it doesn't effect my golf handicap.

Posted by: Preznit Juggears McClusterfuck at June 29, 2010 11:40 AM (roBAy)

23

Will all due respect, "Technical Analysis" is like reading tea leaves. Make that goat entrails.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 29, 2010 03:39 PM (ujg0T)

Hey!  Between you and Kos, I'm starting to feel like the Chicken here!

Posted by: Zombie Goat at June 29, 2010 11:41 AM (7AOgy)

24 Let me be clear, my economic policy of tax and spend are working! Just ask Joe Biden.

Posted by: ohmama at June 29, 2010 11:41 AM (uyTSY)

25
This is the "Summer of Recovery" and all you conservative assholes need to just sit down and shut the fuck up. Barack and I have it under control.

Posted by: Joe "Bite Me" Biden at June 29, 2010 11:41 AM (v1gw3)

26

Here Ace:   

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             / \
          /`  _ `\
        /`   /\\   `\
       |    /__\\    |
       \  /      \\   /
        '.__, ,__.'
          _.-^-._
         `"""""""`

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 29, 2010 11:41 AM (0QJjg)

27 And the DOW is below 10K, the S&P is currently 1,041.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at June 29, 2010 11:41 AM (/U/Mr)

28 Next stop, ILM!

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 29, 2010 11:42 AM (0QJjg)

29 " the problem is that the next support is all the way down at 800 or so."

Wowee, you should make a fortune with all that technical knowledge. Those stock price charts can predict the future still amazes me to this day.

Posted by: Sarah at June 29, 2010 11:42 AM (sAwen)

30 Posted by: stuiec at June 29, 2010 03:40 PM (7AOgy)

Yes, it is. Give me a job and you get some Green. Get it? Green Jobs.
Also my Chakra is a little green due to my high fiber diet.
I think of it as Imperial Jade.

Posted by: Al Gore at June 29, 2010 11:42 AM (UYace)

31

And this is all happening on a Tuesday in June?

UNPRECEDENTED!!

Posted by: stuiec at June 29, 2010 11:43 AM (7AOgy)

32 5 can you short sell the entire S&P?  can you short a S&P ETF?

Posted by: Ben at June 29, 2010 03:33 PM (wuv1c)

http://bit.ly/bu5dH3

3X Volitality Baby!

I did something similar with the Russell 1000 Financial Services index (FAS) combined with margin trading. That tripled my money in less than a month and that paid for my plasma TV.

If you win, you win big. If you loose, you can loose it all. So be careful, choose wisely and never play with money you cannot afford to loose.

Have fun!

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at June 29, 2010 11:44 AM (oIp16)

33 I wish the S&P would break through my aura and diddle with my second chakra for a while.

Posted by: Al Gore at June 29, 2010 11:45 AM (IhQuA)

34 [Waves goodbye to 401(k) as it slips beneath the icy surface]

Posted by: joncelli at June 29, 2010 11:45 AM (RD7QR)

35

algore's pee-pee:

o==8

 

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 29, 2010 11:46 AM (0QJjg)

36
I recently installed solar panels on my home in Delaware as an example to all Americans how we must conserve energy, and the thermostats in my home at the United States Naval Observatory in Washington will be lowered to a comfortable 74 in winter months, and 68 in summer.

Posted by: Joe Biden at June 29, 2010 11:47 AM (v1gw3)

37 Don't you mean:
****    O========8 

* Chakra

Posted by: Al Gore at June 29, 2010 11:48 AM (UYace)

38 * * * *
***** * ***** ******
** * **** * * * *

Posted by: Al Gore at June 29, 2010 11:49 AM (UYace)

39 Ooops, I got Chakra all over the blog. Sorry.

Posted by: Al Gore at June 29, 2010 11:50 AM (UYace)

40
Some of the questions from the Judiciary Committee were uncalled for, provocative, and designed to incite my supporters.  I fully support the Constitution of the United States when it suits my liberal agenda, and I refused to answer any questions about my sexuality or that of my girlfriend.

Posted by: Elena Kagan at June 29, 2010 11:51 AM (v1gw3)

41

The Pharaoh has spoken.

So let it be written.  So let it be done. 

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at June 29, 2010 11:51 AM (e8T35)

42 The obvious solution is more green jobs.

/sarcy, sarc, sarc.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at June 29, 2010 11:51 AM (9hSKh)

43
I'd hump Elena Kagan in a New York minute, and it would be my first Supreme Court Justice hump.

Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell at June 29, 2010 11:52 AM (v1gw3)

44 Posted by: Jim in San Diego at June 29, 2010 03:44 PM (oIp16) Dude, the correct advice comes from the track. you can eat your betting money, but don't bet your eating money

Posted by: dr kill at June 29, 2010 11:52 AM (w9bVp)

45 WHOOP! Troll suicide alert WHOOP!

Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at June 29, 2010 11:53 AM (N/7an)

46 The S&P may be falling, but how are the Profit to Earnings ratios holding up?

Posted by: Obamanomics at June 29, 2010 11:54 AM (/5Axw)

47 Uh ... um ... you know, it really isn't bad, when you look at the recent action of the profit and earnings ratios. I mean, don't go and get all wee wee'd up when it's clear that the the relativistical strategic valuation of profits has really screwed with an America that we don't know, but we're getting to, God bless America the beautiful.

Posted by: Your Precedent ... Nobel Laureate, nominee for 8th grade mathematical equivalency at June 29, 2010 11:55 AM (Qp4DT)

48 [Waves goodbye to 401(k) as it slips beneath the icy surface]

Someone has to lose to get "failure to pass financial reform sends markets down" headlines to Massachusetts.

Posted by: oblig. at June 29, 2010 11:55 AM (x7Ao8)

49 If only the Obami cared about fixing this economy. Like Monty said, everything old is new again.

Posted by: Lance Mudock at June 29, 2010 11:56 AM (BwJlD)

50
Obama's Weekly Message to America

.._.  .._  _._.  _._

_.__  _ _ _  .._  

Posted by: Fish at June 29, 2010 11:56 AM (v1gw3)

51 Speaking of the market, I was buying chunks of Citigroup this morning after the price dropped >5%. While waiting for the price to drop 1 cent to make my 3rd buy I all of a sudden see the price drop from $3.77 to $3.32. It didn't make sense but I wasn't about to sit around waiting to possibly get royally fucked so I sold a few cents below my overall buying price today just to cash out and buy back in at $3.32 or $3.33. A few minutes later the price reverted back to $3.77 and I ended up buying back in at my original buy in average price but losing a few hundred in the ordeal. How the fuck is this allowed to happen? I thought the issue was addressed after the 1,000 point drop in error a few weeks ago.

Hussein has fucked everything up.

Posted by: Dillinger at June 29, 2010 11:58 AM (BedzM)

52

America's message to Obama

.   ._   _

...   ....  .. _

Posted by: Sam M. at June 29, 2010 11:59 AM (/5Axw)

53 Technical supports are more psychological barriers than anything "real". (To the extent that anything in equities is based on "real" stuff any more....) 1040 was a big psychological floor value, and breaking through it -- even briefly -- is pretty worrisome. I'm not a big fan of technicals, as a rule, but this market is skittish as hell.

Posted by: Monty at June 29, 2010 11:59 AM (4Pleu)

54 Well, the story just hit Reuters. Prepare for the stampede.

Posted by: Monty at June 29, 2010 12:01 PM (4Pleu)

55 1,040!

Posted by: MEDIBOT at June 29, 2010 12:02 PM (e8YaH)

56 I wasn't paying attention - trading just closed for the day. S&P 500 at the close: 1,041.28.

Posted by: Monty at June 29, 2010 12:02 PM (4Pleu)

57

America's message to Obama

Posted by: Sam M. at June 29, 2010 03:59 PM (/5Axw)

The problem Sam is that Obama will pick through it until he finds the best parts?  Liberals always believe its possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

Posted by: Fish at June 29, 2010 12:02 PM (v1gw3)

58 How the fuck is this allowed to happen? I thought the issue was addressed after the 1,000 point drop in error a few weeks ago. Posted by: Dillinger

Can't blame this one entirely on the Petulency.

The problem is you're trying to compete with professional traders and hedge funds that are using algorithms and ultra-high speed connections, aka fat pipes, to trade millions of shares in milliseconds.

Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at June 29, 2010 12:03 PM (N/7an)

59 Biden: I've got three words for you - Recovery Summer

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 29, 2010 12:03 PM (1Jaio)

60 So does that mean I have to go back to basic cable?

Posted by: Truman North at June 29, 2010 12:04 PM (e8YaH)

61 DJIA closes off at -268.22. S&P closes at 1035.82, off -38.75. Gentlemen, start your heartburns!

Posted by: joncelli at June 29, 2010 12:04 PM (RD7QR)

62

...How the fuck is this allowed to happen? I thought the issue was addressed after the 1,000 point drop in error a few weeks ago.

The folks at ZH say HFT and I would agree

http://tinyurl.com/2bz54lf

The market is no longer meant for investing.

Posted by: KLL at June 29, 2010 12:05 PM (/5Axw)

63 Obama will solve the entitlement bubble by getting rid of retirement completely. 

Posted by: Beagle at June 29, 2010 12:06 PM (sOtz/)

64 The only thing that you need to know about the stock market is that it is not Obama's fault.

Posted by: WalrusRex at June 29, 2010 12:06 PM (xxgag)

65 Release the Kraken, or the meteors or chaos or kagen or chakra or something.  Something, anything beside govt spending.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at June 29, 2010 12:10 PM (T0bhq)

66 I thought the issue was addressed after the 1,000 point drop in error a few weeks ago. Trading in Citi activated the killswitch earlier today when the stock suddenly dropped by like 50% in ten seconds or so. I think the graph is up on ZH somewhere. HFT and algos are making a complete mockery of the equities market. If things don't improve by the end of the year, I'm cashing out completely. This is just stupid.

Posted by: Monty at June 29, 2010 12:10 PM (4Pleu)

67 In elementary terms, a "support level" is the price which was established in the past and at which a stock or index labored to break through.  There are many shares bought by individuals and institutions at that price.  They have seen their investment go up, and those who did not cash out profit have seen it come back down.

When the price "breaks support," it means that same significant number of investors is now in the red.  People don't like being in the red, so they sell.  The stock or index plunges until it hits the next lower support level.

See, no actual numbers were harmed in composing this post.

Posted by: Adjoran at June 29, 2010 12:11 PM (VfmLu)

68 "The only thing that you need to know about the stock market is that it is not Obama's fault."

It's w's fault. Rather the voters who elected him's fault.

Posted by: Sarah at June 29, 2010 12:12 PM (sAwen)

69

And now, for your listening pleasure, Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers

And I'm free - free fallin

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at June 29, 2010 12:12 PM (e8T35)

70 I already cashed out, this is simply a big casino and guess what you aren't the house.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at June 29, 2010 12:12 PM (T0bhq)

71

"The only thing that you need to know about the stock market is that it is not Obama's fault."

Yup, personally I think this was caused by all these damn neophyte economists who think that they are qualified to write about economic issues without an ivy league degree.

After all, all the Ivy league guys are predicting a recovery, yada yada.  This untrained, unsophisticated neophytes on this blog and others predict a massive downturn.

What happens?  A massive downturn.  AHA!  There's your proof right there!  Obviously it's a conspiracy.  How else could they have known in advance what would happen?  After all, they couldn't possibly understand the subtle nuances of something as complex as the economy.

Of course, I guess you don't need a degree from Harvard to see a huge shit storm approaching at highspeed from the horizon after all.



 

Posted by: StuckOnStupid at June 29, 2010 12:16 PM (e8T35)

72 <i>Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at June 29, 2010 04:03 PM</i>

I hear you Garbonzo but the financial reform abomination is causing much of the fear on Wall Street. There is absolutely no confidence in Hussein or his acolytes slithering around DC.

The "financial reform" for all intents and purposes is back door wealth redistribution. Investors [includes anyone with a 401k] will see a loss in their portfolios due to a punitive tax within this reform which will be levied on financial institutions. Seniors with financial stocks in their portfolio, which is tens of millions of people, will be hardest hit. The money the govt will collect fron this punitive tax will be distributed to unions, leftwing coffers and democrat warchests.

The greatest threat America faces is Hussein and the democrat party in DC. Congress must be purged of the leftwing anti-American filth.

Posted by: Dillinger at June 29, 2010 12:18 PM (BedzM)

73 This reminds me of the old poker adage. Look around the table for the sucker. If you can't find him, then the sucker is you.

Posted by: Monty at June 29, 2010 12:19 PM (4Pleu)

74 By the way, if anyone owns stock in Dell Computer, you might want to get rid of it before it goes to zero.

Posted by: Monty at June 29, 2010 12:22 PM (4Pleu)

75 Uncertainty will reign until Zero leaves office and takes this latest wretchedly cluefucked group of "whiz kids" with him. 

Every time Congress passes a new bill or Barry so much as opens his mouth, buy more gold. 

Since the only response this Administration knows is to double-down on Keynesian Stoopid, it may be at $2500.00 by the time this crapwagon of fools creeps out of D.C.

Posted by: societyis2blame at June 29, 2010 12:25 PM (7ZyYf)

76 Do you miss me yet?

Posted by: Bush at June 29, 2010 12:27 PM (sAwen)

77 Doooooooooooom.

We
Are
So
Screwed

Posted by: shibumi at June 29, 2010 12:29 PM (OKZrE)

78 Let me be clear. We've been in charge of this since day one (whispers)....errrr..this is George Bush's fault, and we can't be blamed.

AG Eric Holder will investigate immediately to protect the little guy.

Now where are my golf clubs?

Posted by: Barry Soetero at June 29, 2010 12:29 PM (x7g7t)

79 Somebody needs to read 'A Random Walk Down Wall Street.'

Posted by: blindside at June 29, 2010 12:30 PM (x7g7t)

80

No, I don't miss you, George; fuck right off and take the rest of your "ownership society", "enterprise zone", "soft bigotry" compassionate-conservatives with you.

Your wishful thinking brought all this upon us.

Posted by: Zimriel at June 29, 2010 12:33 PM (9Sbz+)

81

No, I don't miss you, George; fuck right off and take the rest of your "ownership society", "enterprise zone", "soft bigotry" compassionate-conservatives with you.

Your wishful thinking brought all this upon us.

Hey, we did our part!

Posted by: Dodd, Frank and Kennedy at June 29, 2010 12:35 PM (ujg0T)

82 "compassionate-conservatives", you know I made that one up.

Posted by: Bush at June 29, 2010 12:38 PM (sAwen)

83 It will be interesting to see what tomorrow brings. (And I should have some excellent fodder for tomorrow morning's Briefing.)

Posted by: Monty at June 29, 2010 12:40 PM (4Pleu)

84 Oooh, Monty, you tease

Posted by: Rep. B. Frank (D, MA) at June 29, 2010 12:41 PM (9Sbz+)

85 This means that the Dems will take about 400 more seats in November.

Posted by: The Obligatory Crapdragon sock at June 29, 2010 12:46 PM (YmPwQ)

86

5 years ago my mom started buying up gold and silver, said we were due for a big old market drubbing eventually and everyone better be prepared to fend for themselves -- happened before in her lifetime, would happen again; fiat currencies don't amount to shit if there's nothing but debt to back it up -- and that economy wise we were beginning to paint ourselves into a corner where nothing would stop the crash from happening -- because people would get panicked and not leave the damn thing alone; people wouldn't be willing to take a moderate hit and thus would wind up really screwing the pooch trying to avoid it.  Everyone thought she was nuts no way were we going to globally crash and burn again -- a lot of people still thought she was nuts two years ago when she stepped up her gold and silver investing.

My cigar smoking, former motorcycle riding, lets her dog eat breakfast with her mom had more sense than the people running the economy imho.

Posted by: unknown jane at June 29, 2010 12:46 PM (5/yRG)

87

June 29 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama said after meeting with Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke that the U.S. economy is strengthening even as it faces “headwinds” because of concerns about the European debt crisis.

“We have seen some very positive trends in a number of sectors,” Obama said at the White House after a meeting with his economic advisers. “Unfortunately, because of the troubles we’ve seen in Europe, we’re now seeing some headwinds and skittishness and nervousness on the part of the markets,”.

 

Headwinds are racist. Or why doesn't he use those headwinds for his windmill farms?

It's quite obviously that Barry doesn't have a clue about economics. He can't even fake it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 29, 2010 12:57 PM (1Jaio)

88

So, the S&P sliding past 1040 without bouncing back for keepers means(as we already knew boys 'n gals) we're over the threshold to a Bear Market.  Just in time for midterms and signalling truly awful hard knocks in 3 to 6 months.

Lessee,  reprise '82 midterms or '94?  Ah, that's '94 with extreme prejudice.

Posted by: gary gulrud at June 29, 2010 01:01 PM (/g2vP)

89 Listen, why don't you post something nice instead of being a smartass all the time?

Posted by: Sheriff Joe at June 29, 2010 01:09 PM (aDdAT)

90 That glass of hemlock is looking pretty tasty right now.

Posted by: George Orwell at June 29, 2010 01:12 PM (ZcWn1)

91

Almost every electronics manufacturer has the same problem Dell has with these shoddy Chinese capacitors. The damn things suck. They explode. There are millions of them out there in all kinds of components, waiting to explode. I had 4 of them on NVIDIA graphics boards explode. These were relatively large caps that sounded almost like gunshots when they went. And they can (and they did) take out a PCI bus when they pop. One blew up inside my DVD player.

Lead paint on toys. Exploding capacitors in your electronics. Poison gas seeping thru the drywall. Ain't it grand how we've outsourced everything to China, impoverishing ourselves along the way?

Posted by: Cowboy at June 29, 2010 01:20 PM (tfMGP)

92 " outsourced everything to China, impoverishing ourselves along the way?"

Thanks w.

Posted by: Bush at June 29, 2010 01:28 PM (sAwen)

93

Okay.  There are a lot of people in the business who believe in "technical analysis" and things like "support levels." 

It's all crap.

Unless you have a doctorate in physics and are programming trading computers for hedge funds, just forget about it.  What matters are fundamentals.  Future cash flow. 

Posted by: Steve O at June 29, 2010 04:45 PM (IXYD1)

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