August 07, 2011

Sunday Afternoon Open Thread
— Monty

There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know.
-- Donald Rumsfeld

Posted by: Monty at 10:41 AM | Comments (294)
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1 First?

Posted by: twiceblessedmom at August 07, 2011 10:43 AM (HjxoE)

2 Yay, new thread! Thanks, Monty.

Posted by: twiceblessedmom at August 07, 2011 10:43 AM (HjxoE)

3 Good old Rumsfeld.

Posted by: knob at August 07, 2011 10:43 AM (qKPU8)

4 I miss Yummy Rummy.

Posted by: As IF... at August 07, 2011 10:45 AM (piMMO)

5 brb, fucking up the country and shanking. Fore!

Posted by: President Just for Men at August 07, 2011 10:45 AM (IIQIM)

6 And, thanks for the new thread. I was, it seems, talking to myself over at the last thread. It wouldn't have been long before I took to calling myself "curious" and started a fight with myself.

Posted by: As IF... at August 07, 2011 10:46 AM (piMMO)

7 One advantage of hitting bottom is that the big questions become clearer.

Anyone else catch this from the Telegraph.   http://tinyurl.com/3mvba9v

We have arrived at the endgame of what was an untenable doctrine: to pay for the kind of entitlements that populations have been led to expect by their politicians, the wealth-creating sector has to be taxed to a degree that makes it almost impossible for it to create the wealth that is needed to pay for the entitlements that populations have been led to expect, etc, etc.

Posted by: Shiggz at August 07, 2011 10:48 AM (v8Pb8)

8 Fore more years!!

Posted by: Preznint Ladies Tee at August 07, 2011 10:48 AM (ZUWaD)

9 Kristen Powers, will you marry me?????

Posted by: Pissed off 26-year old with three part-time jobs at August 07, 2011 10:48 AM (e2VMT)

10 Did anyone watch Shannon Sharpe's speech yesterday? Damn. Made me a little weepy. Man cannot dress for shit but he gives a helluva speech.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 07, 2011 10:49 AM (IIQIM)

11 America why did you elect such small, shallow man like Obama?  He is not only screwing up America, this simpleton is also affecting the rest of the world. George Bush was a good man, Obama for all his education is dumber then 20 George Bush's. Canada will do it's part to help force this monster from office in 2012 !!!

Posted by: Thomas Crown from Edmonton, Canada at August 07, 2011 10:49 AM (qXGZK)

12 Wow, it's doomy out there! Is it the heat or the humidity?

Posted by: joncelli at August 07, 2011 10:50 AM (RD7QR)

13 I want that quote on my tombstone.

Posted by: aquaviva at August 07, 2011 10:50 AM (9EW3O)

14 9

???

Did you hit your head? Aw, seek help immediately.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 07, 2011 10:50 AM (IIQIM)

15 Fox: WASHINGTON -- Timothy Geithner has told President Barack Obama that he will remain on the job as Treasury secretary.

Wonderful. That should be good for a couple of hundred points on the Dow tomorrow.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 07, 2011 10:52 AM (kaalw)

16

'Did you hit your head? Aw, seek help immediately.'

No, I need a sugar momma. She's not bad looking, but as my name states, it's purely for economic reasons...mostly.

Posted by: Pissed off 26-year old with three part-time jobs at August 07, 2011 10:53 AM (e2VMT)

17 Frank J. Fleming

Glad to hear Geithner is staying as Treasury Secretary; you don't change horses midway down the waterfall.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 07, 2011 10:53 AM (73tyQ)

18 : European Central Bank now considering buying up Spanish and Italian debt....

One tiny little problem: "The ECB is bankrupt, and this would be evident for all to see but for the fact that it has grossly overvalued the practically worthless Greek, Irish and Portuguese bonds in its portfolio."

It continues:

"Furthermore, it is unclear to whom the ECB – whose dodgy accounting, reckless investments and contemptuous disregard of banking standards make even the most irresponsible Mayfair hedge fund look like a model of propriety – is ultimately accountable. The idea that it can step effectively into the Italian bond market, whose total value of around 1.8 trillion euros makes it larger by far than Greece, Portugal and Ireland combined, is a joke.

Wake up: the eurozone is very close to collapse. It will come as no surprise if some Italian and Spanish banks are forced to close their doors in the course of the next few weeks.
"

Posted by: 80sBaby at August 07, 2011 10:53 AM (o2lIv)

19 So, now that the downgrade is being spun as the "Tea Party Downgrade", will we watch Boehner rally the GOP to protect their flanks?  Or, will we watch them distance themselves.  It will be very telling...

Posted by: Brock O'Bama at August 07, 2011 10:54 AM (/WZ6r)

20 I might have to replace my coffee with scotch tomorrow morning to face watching the markets open.

Posted by: Retread at August 07, 2011 10:54 AM (BO5ap)

21 Geithner is staying on as he put out feelers but no one wanted that job. Not even one of those 20-somethings in the President's Beer Pong Crew.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 07, 2011 10:55 AM (IIQIM)

22 I sure hope that the end result of the investigation is "... while riding into hell in support of Rangers...", or some such. Regardless, I see row upon row, arrayed in splendor at the gates of Heaven, presenting a crisp salute.

Posted by: Errol at August 07, 2011 10:55 AM (d2AYO)

23 Heh.

Ken Jennings by iowahawkblog There are so many humanities PhDs working crappy jobs now that last time I took my car to the car wash, it came back waxed philosophical.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, wearing a cute, pink suicide vest at August 07, 2011 10:56 AM (UOM48)

24

Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose,
Nothing, that's all that Barry left me, yeah,
But feeling boned was easy, Lord, when he played the greens,
Hey, feeling boned was good enough for me, hmm hmm,
Good enough for me thanks to Barry McGee.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at August 07, 2011 10:56 AM (s3JuV)

25 It will be very telling...

Well they can't go this route.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 07, 2011 10:57 AM (IIQIM)

26 When the Germans wise up and start printing deutschmarks again the jig will be up for the EU. Then the market will correct in the same way that a semi corrects an armadillo on a hot Texas highway.

Posted by: joncelli at August 07, 2011 10:57 AM (RD7QR)

27 Geithner is staying on as he put out feelers but no one wanted that job. Not even one of those 20-somethings in the President's Beer Pong Crew.

I wonder who would hire Timmy if he left Treasury.

Posted by: Retread at August 07, 2011 10:59 AM (BO5ap)

28 When do the Asian stock markets open?

Posted by: Palandine at August 07, 2011 10:59 AM (g7D8V)

29 @26.  Introspection, the one deficiency of the Left.  It must be a regressive gene thing...

Posted by: Brock O'Bama at August 07, 2011 11:00 AM (/WZ6r)

30 Gonna throw out another tech bleg for moron help with getting OSX to work in VirtualBox on windows.

Email
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if you can help.

Thanks!

Posted by: alexthedude at August 07, 2011 11:00 AM (Awmba)

31 I've replaced Tim Geithner with Folger's Crystals. Let's see what happens next......
 
Dayam. Is that legal?

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 07, 2011 11:01 AM (ENKCw)

32 Well they can't go this route.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 07, 2011 02:57 PM (IIQIM)

It's the dirty little secret they won't tell the KosKids.  Liberal Democrats, especially those in New York, are awash with Wall Street money.

Look, the whole mission of the Democrat party is to make corruption into a coherent political philosophy.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 07, 2011 11:01 AM (73tyQ)

33

7 One advantage of hitting bottom is that the big questions become clearer.

Anyone else catch this from the Telegraph. http://tinyurl.com/3mvba9v

We have arrived at the endgame of what was an untenable doctrine: to pay for the kind of entitlements that populations have been led to expect by their politicians, the wealth-creating sector has to be taxed to a degree that makes it almost impossible for it to create the wealth that is needed to pay for the entitlements that populations have been led to expect, etc, etc.

_________________________________________________

Saw that earlier, it was a good piece.  If some journalist in socialist England can recognize this, why can't the government?

Posted by: Conservative Crank at August 07, 2011 11:01 AM (s3JuV)

34 I wonder who would hire Timmy if he left Treasury.

The revolving door between the Dems in politics and the media works both ways. He'll become a 'contributor' at Huff & Puff.

Or he'll go the way of all the other losers in this asshole's administration and go into academia.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 07, 2011 11:01 AM (IIQIM)

35 And you know, Joncelli, that it will be the fault of the capitalists.

Posted by: rabidfox at August 07, 2011 11:02 AM (YULFJ)

36 Some of the crew at Belmont Club are calling this "The Flashing Neon Swan Event..."

Sounds about right to me.

Posted by: backhoe at August 07, 2011 11:03 AM (rFdqZ)

37 Mentioned in near the end of the thread below, but I'm still so gob-smacked and enraged it bears re-posting.  From Maureen Dowd, no less.

Hollywood releasing movie on Obama and SEAL Team G taking out bin Laden, for release October 12, 2012:

The White House clearly blessed the dramatic reconstruction of the mission by Nicholas Schmidle in The New Yorker — so vividly descriptive of the SEALS' looks, quotes and thoughts that Schmidle had to clarify after the piece was published that he had not actually talked to any of them.

(snip)

The White House is also counting on the Kathryn Bigelow and Mark Boal big-screen version of the killing of bin Laden to counter Obama's growing reputation as ineffectual.

The Sony film by the Oscar-winning pair who made "The Hurt Locker" will no doubt reflect the president's cool, gutsy decision against shaky odds. Just as Obamaland was hoping, the movie is scheduled to open on Oct. 12, 2012 — perfectly timed to give a home-stretch boost to a campaign that has grown tougher.

The moviemakers are getting top-level access to the most classified mission in history from an administration that has tried to throw more people in jail for leaking classified information than the Bush administration.

It was clear that the White House had outsourced the job of manning up the president's image to Hollywood when Boal got welcomed to the upper echelons of the White House and the Pentagon and showed up recently — to the surprise of some military officers — at a CIA ceremony celebrating the hero SEALs.



Posted by: Jane D'oh, wearing a cute, pink suicide vest at August 07, 2011 11:03 AM (UOM48)

38 28  My biggest fear is for the 'little guy' who gets rolled in the market, calls up to cash out  some gold money that he's not holding and hears, "The number you have dialed is no longer in service."

Posted by: Downscaled Upscale at August 07, 2011 02:58 PM (IhHdM) 

Not quite the same thing, DU, but I read about someone who thought he'd purchased gold online and his advisor told him to call & get actual hard gold for it ... sure enough, he'd bought shares in some BS rather than the real thing.

Dammit, sorry for the italics.

Posted by: Steck at August 07, 2011 11:03 AM (RL7U1)

39 Dammit.  SEAL Team G = SEAL Team 6


Posted by: Jane D'oh, wearing a cute, pink suicide vest at August 07, 2011 11:04 AM (UOM48)

40 I wonder who would hire Timmy if he left Treasury.

Posted by: Retread at August 07, 2011 02:59 PM (BO5ap)

Oh, God, these guys can't not be hired.

These Wall Street firms are all about getting favors from the government.  Timmy'd get a 7-figure salary from any of them.  At the very worst, he'd end up with a 6-figure salary and magnificent perks as a university president.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 07, 2011 11:04 AM (73tyQ)

41 More wonderful news from The Hill --

S&P executive: Could take over a decade to restore US credit rating.


For some peculiar reason, President Mulligan couldn't be reached for comment.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 07, 2011 11:04 AM (IIQIM)

42 I didn't know that!

Posted by: Dick Martin at August 07, 2011 11:04 AM (gFYz6)

43 Saw that earlier, it was a good piece.  If some journalist in socialist England can recognize this, why can't the government?

They're increasingly looking at the one social democracy that seems to be working:  Germany.  But Germany has an export economy, and we can't all be net exporters.

Posted by: Ace's liver at August 07, 2011 11:05 AM (/gOMq)

44 Wonderful. That should be good for a couple of hundred points onoff the Dow tomorrow.

Posted by: cthulhu at August 07, 2011 02:52 PM (kaalw)

FIFY

Posted by: alexthedude at August 07, 2011 11:05 AM (Awmba)

45

Re the sidebar link about O playing golf...I think geography is something that blogger doesn't know he doesn't know:

President Barack Obama, a Democrat, enjoys spending time on the golf course on Andrews Air Force Base, which is nearby Camp David.

 

Posted by: Mama AJ at August 07, 2011 11:05 AM (XdlcF)

46 When do the Asian stock markets open?

Posted by: Palandine at August 07, 2011 02:59 PM (g7D8V)

I thinnk it is 1800 EDT?

Fasten your seat-belts - I sense turbulence ahead.

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 07, 2011 11:06 AM (yrGif)

47 49

Re the sidebar link about O playing golf...I think geography is something that blogger doesn't know he doesn't know:

President Barack Obama, a Democrat, enjoys spending time on the golf course on Andrews Air Force Base, which is nearby Camp David.

 

Posted by: Mama AJ at August 07, 2011 03:05 PM (XdlcF)

From here in California, AAFB looks nearby Camp David.

Posted by: Ace's liver at August 07, 2011 11:07 AM (/gOMq)

48 1)as is par for the course I am stuck in Norfolk va. The plane she both late and broken 2) horrible news down here at Norfolk/Little Creek about the 22 Navy Seals

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 07, 2011 11:07 AM (h1KJm)

49 I can't take another week like the last.

I didn't mention it here (I told Tami via e-mail), but my sister's best friend from high school and college, and her oldest daughter, were murdered last week in their home by the daughter's druggy boyfriend, who sat down and waited for the police to arrest him.

My sister is devastated, and I'm heartsick. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh, wearing a cute, pink suicide vest at August 07, 2011 11:08 AM (UOM48)

50 38 And you know, Joncelli, that it will be the fault of the capitalists. Posted by: rabidfox at August 07, 2011 03:02 PM (YULFJ) Certainment. Because it couldn't have been the fault of an artificial international construct using a faulty set of assumptions in which frugal economies were supposed to prop up profligate ones. Couldn't be!

Posted by: joncelli at August 07, 2011 11:09 AM (RD7QR)

51

There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know.
-- Donald Rumsfeld

KnowwutImean, Vern?

Posted by: Ernest P. Worrell at August 07, 2011 11:09 AM (ByGI8)

52 Hey everyone! How's it hanging? 'Back from another couple of days in Park City (for hubby's work; rough duty, I know). 

I'm catching the final round of the Bridgestone.  Tiger's big "comeback" (heh).  Adam Scott currently the leader.  He's the one who hired Tiger's old caddy when Tiger fired him for being disloyal (!). 

Anyway, THIS is rich (read on the intertubes):

"Tiger Woods returned to the PGA Tour Thursday with longtime friend Bryon Bell serving as his caddie. He's the pal who used to arrange Tiger's trysts with his mistresses. A recession is not officially a depression until Tiger has to lay off his caddy and make his pimp do both jobs."

bwahaha!  It's nice to see people finally getting over the Great Tiger and actually criticizing the jerk.  Could we soon see this with the Other Great One (Obama)? 

Posted by: Y-not at August 07, 2011 11:09 AM (5H6zj)

53 Gee, I wonder what Newsweek is possible thinking with this cover.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 07, 2011 11:09 AM (IIQIM)

54 These Wall Street firms are all about getting favors from the government.  Timmy'd get a 7-figure salary from any of them.  At the very worst, he'd end up with a 6-figure salary and magnificent perks as a university president.

Yeah, what the hell was I thinking? Blame it on too late for coffee, too early to drink.

Posted by: Retread at August 07, 2011 11:10 AM (BO5ap)

55 Speaking of Tiger, his former caddy (that was fired) is writing a tell-all book. Good for him

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 07, 2011 11:11 AM (IIQIM)

56 Japan, 8pm

Futures start trading here at 6pm, though.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 07, 2011 03:01 PM (G/MYk)

I saw something earlier today that said the only markets already open were the ones in Israel and it was tanking.

Posted by: Vic at August 07, 2011 11:11 AM (M9Ie6)

57 Unknown unknowns?  I did not know.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at August 07, 2011 11:12 AM (McHnx)

58 Jesus.  He actually went golfing this weekend. [TN]
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Truman, you need an editor.  Your text is awkward.  You could have written "Jesus: He actually went golfing this weekend" although the clearest way would be simply "Jesus actually went golfing this weekend".  Otherwise keep up the good work!

Posted by: where're my ping pong balls? at August 07, 2011 11:13 AM (YxaXw)

59 59 Speaking of Tiger, his former caddy (that was fired) is writing a tell-all book. Good for him

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 07, 2011 03:11 PM (IIQIM)


Sweeeeeet.  I'll bite.

Posted by: alexthedude at August 07, 2011 11:13 AM (Awmba)

60 Trying to catch up on the comments:

10 Did anyone watch Shannon Sharpe's speech yesterday?

Was that the Hall of Fame enshrinement?  I missed it.  What was the gist? 

Posted by: Y-not at August 07, 2011 11:13 AM (5H6zj)

61 56 Gee, I wonder what Newsweek is possible thinking with this cover.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 07, 2011 03:09 PM (IIQIM)

Well, it means that mysogyny is alive and well on the Left.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 07, 2011 11:13 AM (73tyQ)

62 53 I can't take another week like the last.

I didn't mention it here (I told Tami via e-mail), but my sister's best friend from high school and college, and her oldest daughter, were murdered last week in their home by the daughter's druggy boyfriend, who sat down and waited for the police to arrest him.

My sister is devastated, and I'm heartsick. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh, wearing a cute, pink suicide vest at August 07, 2011 03:08 PM (UOM4

Holy crap that's terrible!  What is wrong with people?

Posted by: Ace's liver at August 07, 2011 11:14 AM (/gOMq)

63

President Barack Obama, a Democrat, enjoys spending time on the golf course on Andrews Air Force Base, which is nearby Camp David.

It's probably about 75 miles.  About as close as Baltimore is to Philadelphia.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 07, 2011 11:15 AM (jucos)

64 20 I might have to replace my coffee with scotch tomorrow morning to face watching the markets open.

Posted by: Retread at August 07, 2011 02:54 PM (BO5ap)

When I worked in downtown Chicago back in the day I used to eat breakfast at the diner in the Board of Trade.  They had a bar there.  It was always filled with traders gulping down big glasses of scotch or whiskey.  This was at 7:00 AM and happened every day.

Posted by: PugBoo at August 07, 2011 11:15 AM (5nHLW)

65

Well, it means that mysogyny is alive and well on the Left.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 07, 2011 03:13 PM (73tyQ)

It's not mysogyny if it's because of her ideas.  They hate her because she betrays their "ideal", in the same way that Sowell, Williams, and Clarence Thomas do.

Whatever word for "hate of an individual that defies Marxist group classification and subordiation" is, that's what that is.

Do we have a word for this? If not, I think it bears a coinage.

Posted by: alexthedude at August 07, 2011 11:17 AM (Awmba)

66 RE: Newsweek cover--the bit with Jennifer Granholm writing a piece about how to save your money from the government is also rich--she should know, right, since she was complicit in guiding Michigan on the path to economic ruin...

Posted by: Conservative Crank at August 07, 2011 11:17 AM (s3JuV)

67 What was the gist?

Love of family. It was a nice little tribute.


Well, it means that mysogyny is alive and well on the Left.

In other words, it's a day ending in -day.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 07, 2011 11:17 AM (IIQIM)

68 @68   Aaaaahhhhh, the good ol' days...

Posted by: Chicago BOT trader at August 07, 2011 11:18 AM (/WZ6r)

69 Gee, I wonder what Newsweek is possible thinking with this cover.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 07, 2011 03:09 PM (IIQIM)

Makes me like her even more.  I don't know if I could hate these propagandists any more than I already do.  Does anyone, like, actually read that rag anymore?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 07, 2011 11:18 AM (jucos)

70 But Rummy left out the most dangerous one of all: Things we know, that aren't so.

Posted by: MyCherryS'mores at August 07, 2011 11:19 AM (VOBGw)

71 @17
bwahaha!

Posted by: Y-not at August 07, 2011 11:19 AM (5H6zj)

72 72 @68   Aaaaahhhhh, the good ol' days...

Posted by: Chicago BOT trader at August 07, 2011 03:18 PM (/WZ6r)

Wusses.

Posted by: Coked-up Salomon Bros. Mortgage Trader at August 07, 2011 11:20 AM (Awmba)

73 Let's see, a Chinook crash in Afghanistan kills 22 Navy Seals.
The S&P downgrades US government debt (the first of many to come).
And Obama hits the golf course again.

This guy is Emperor Nero fiddling while Rome burns, and enjoying it.

Posted by: Kortezzi at August 07, 2011 11:20 AM (8z3Yf)

74 I don't care if Barky is golfing on the moon, he's golfing during one of the worst times we've faced as a nation.

Now that I think about it, sending him to the moon to golf wouldn't be a bad idea.  Not bad at all.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, wearing a cute, pink suicide vest at August 07, 2011 11:21 AM (UOM48)

75 72 @68   Aaaaahhhhh, the good ol' days...

Posted by: Chicago BOT trader at August 07, 2011 03:18 PM (/WZ6r)

Bah.  People used to drink more than they do today.  I took a job around 1990 where my boss would drink a full pitcher of beer or ale every day at lunch.  He would periodically stop for awhile to go on a diet, though.

Posted by: Ace's liver at August 07, 2011 11:22 AM (/gOMq)

76 @53 I can't take another week like the last.

Man, I'm so sorry to hear that.  *hugs*

Posted by: Y-not at August 07, 2011 11:22 AM (5H6zj)

77 This guy is Emperor Nero fiddling while Rome burns, and enjoying it.

Posted by: Kortezzi at August 07, 2011 03:20 PM (8z3Yf)

He's not fiddling, just waiting patiently for the fire to die down so he can douse the remaining embers.  Thanks Boehner and McConnell!  Swell job!

Posted by: alexthedude at August 07, 2011 11:22 AM (Awmba)

78

Gee, I wonder what Newsweek is possible thinking with this cover.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 07, 2011 03:09 PM (IIQIM)

 

I'd like to see the rest of the photos from the shoot. They obviously picked the worst one.

I'm surprised they didn't shoot her from below, with a dark background and photoshopped in a malevolent sneer.

Posted by: ErikW at August 07, 2011 11:23 AM (ByGI8)

79 Jane D'oh?

I'm sorry as Hell to hear that. Double murder, eh? The ( long off the air ) talkshow host who "thought the most like I do," Ken Hamblin, The Black Avenger, did a study of murders and he concluded that each single one impacted a minimum of 20 more people.

Posted by: backhoe at August 07, 2011 11:24 AM (rFdqZ)

80 Newsweek is a rag. 

And juvenile. 

Posted by: Y-not at August 07, 2011 11:24 AM (5H6zj)

81 I'm praying tomorrow isn't as bad on good people as I think it will be.


Posted by: sift t. baggins,Tearorist at August 07, 2011 11:25 AM (ECjvn)

82 56 Gee, I wonder what Newsweek is possible thinking with this cover.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 07, 2011 03:09 PM (IIQIM)

They still have a circulation over 1.5m.  Amazing.

Posted by: Ace's liver at August 07, 2011 11:26 AM (/gOMq)

83 79 72 @68   Aaaaahhhhh, the good ol' days...

Posted by: Chicago BOT trader at August 07, 2011 03:18 PM (/WZ6r)

Bah.  People used to drink more than they do today.  I took a job around 1990 where my boss would drink a full pitcher of beer or ale every day at lunch.  He would periodically stop for awhile to go on a diet, though.

Is that you, Ace's liver?!?

Posted by: Duffman at August 07, 2011 11:26 AM (/WZ6r)

84 69

Well, it means that mysogyny is alive and well on the Left.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 07, 2011 03:13 PM (73tyQ)

It's not mysogyny if it's because of her ideas. They hate her because she betrays their "ideal", in the same way that Sowell, Williams, and Clarence Thomas do.

Whatever word for "hate of an individual that defies Marxist group classification and subordiation" is, that's what that is.

Do we have a word for this? If not, I think it bears a coinage.

Posted by: alexthedude at August 07, 2011 03:17 PM

__________________________________________________

My German isn't what it once was, which was still pretty bad, but something along the lines of schadengruppenthinken?  Regret regarding the groupthink?

Posted by: Conservative Crank at August 07, 2011 11:27 AM (s3JuV)

85 Newsweak ain't fit for use as toilet paper.

Posted by: sift t. baggins,Tearorist at August 07, 2011 11:28 AM (ECjvn)

86

It's probably about 75 miles.  About as close as Baltimore is to Philadelphia.

It's very near to the White House, OTOH.

Posted by: Mama AJ at August 07, 2011 11:28 AM (XdlcF)

87 83 Jane D'oh?

I'm sorry as Hell to hear that. Double murder, eh? The ( long off the air ) talkshow host who "thought the most like I do," Ken Hamblin, The Black Avenger, did a study of murders and he concluded that each single one impacted a minimum of 20 more people.

Posted by: backhoe at August 07, 2011 03:24 PM (rFdqZ)

Yeah.  She's one of those women who was educated, had a good career, and married a loser, who gave her two precious kids, and abandoned her.

She raised the kids, and in later years cared for her sick mother until her death.  The oldest daughter had trouble with drugs, and the druggy boyfriend made things worse.

The youngest daughter is left with no parents or other family, and her sister's toddler to raise.  And the daughter is in her early 20s.

I hope the bastard gets the death penalty, as he should. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh, wearing a cute, pink suicide vest at August 07, 2011 11:29 AM (UOM48)

88 Heat spell seems to be easing up a bit out here in the sunny toilet. That's some good news anyway.

Posted by: sifty at August 07, 2011 11:30 AM (ECjvn)

89 <a href='http://tinyurl.com/alexknox'>Nice, but... maybe a little more gore on the fangs, huh?</a>

Posted by: Aleander Knox, Gotham Globe reporter at August 07, 2011 11:30 AM (Awmba)

90

schadengruppenthinken

Schadengruppendenken?????

Posted by: Ma Bell at August 07, 2011 11:30 AM (H/MnC)

91 Damn, sorry D'oh. Prayers for you and yours.

Posted by: ErikW at August 07, 2011 11:31 AM (ByGI8)

92 This probably belongs in the book thread but it applies to the couple that currently occupy the WH. "I couldn't forgive him or like him, but I saw that what he had done was, to him, entirely justified. It was all careless and confused. They were careless people, Barack and Michelle - they smashed up things and creatures and then retreated back into their money or their vast carelessness, or whatever it was that kept them together, and let other people clean up the mess they had made." It's the current administration to a "T".

Posted by: mpfs, Tea Party Terrorist at August 07, 2011 11:31 AM (50Nvx)

Posted by: Alexander Knox, Gotham Globe reporter, with layers and layers of fact-checking at August 07, 2011 11:31 AM (Awmba)

94 In light of all the crap happening lately, if I couldn't come here and let off steam or laugh my ass off, I don't know what I'd do.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, wearing a cute, pink suicide vest at August 07, 2011 11:32 AM (UOM48)

95 Posted by: Jane D'oh, wearing a cute, pink suicide vest at August 07, 2011 03:29 PM (UOM4
Any death affects those close to the deceased for years.  Needless, violent, irrational ones such as this are even more devastating. 
I wish you and your sister well in handling this.

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 07, 2011 11:33 AM (yrGif)

96 99 In light of all the crap happening lately, if I couldn't come here and let off steam or laugh my ass off, I don't know what I'd do.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, wearing a cute, pink suicide vest at August 07, 2011 03:32 PM (UOM4

Strap on your little black homicide dress?

Posted by: alexthedude at August 07, 2011 11:33 AM (Awmba)

97

Someone tell Preznit Tee Time that being President:

1) doesn't mean you get unlimited Mulligans

2) you don't get to use the Ladies Tee!!!

3) the secret service detail is not there to caddy for free...

4) you play the ball where it lays, no matter what the lie. (Or how good you are at lieing.)

Last but now least, using a foot wedge on a military course is embarrasing anywhere on the course and I guarantee the secret service detail SAW THAT even if the media agrees to look the other way.

Posted by: MrObvious at August 07, 2011 11:34 AM (qwhLZ)

Posted by: alexthedude at August 07, 2011 11:35 AM (Awmba)

99 Two roads diverged in a wood, and I --
I took the one less travelled by,
and that brought me here. AOSHQ.
And that has made all the difference.

Posted by: Beto Ochoa at August 07, 2011 11:36 AM (lpWVn)

100

3) the secret service detail is not there to caddy for free...

Last but now least, using a foot wedge on a military course is embarrasing anywhere on the course and I guarantee the secret service detail SAW THAT even if the media agrees to look the other way.

Posted by: MrObvious at August 07, 2011 03:34 PM (qwhLZ)

Maybe we should get Tiger's caddy's book agent to give the Secret Service guys a ring.

Posted by: alexthedude at August 07, 2011 11:36 AM (Awmba)

101 I think the idiot from the Dallas Blog thinks Camp David is a golf course. Only golfing at Camp David is one putting/chipping green.

Posted by: Postmaster General Henry Atkins at August 07, 2011 11:37 AM (GZitp)

102 It's the current administration to a "T".

Posted by: mpfs, Tea Party Terrorist at August 07, 2011 03:31 PM (50Nvx)

Where is that from?

Posted by: alexthedude at August 07, 2011 11:37 AM (Awmba)

103 The world awaits with bated breath whether or not the central bank overlords around the world will be able to put off doom.....at least for 1 day.  So eat, drink and be merry tomorrow for on Tuesday it will be rice and beans, beans and rice.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at August 07, 2011 11:38 AM (4nfy2)

104 Fox: WASHINGTON -- Timothy Geithner has told President Barack Obama that he will remain on the job as Treasury secretary.

That's something new, an employee telling the boss, "No, I'm not leaving, and you can't make me."  I'd fire him as publicly as possible, just for spite.  But then again, I'm a terrorist...

Posted by: Lone Marauder at August 07, 2011 11:38 AM (8WV/O)

105 107 The Great Gatsby

Posted by: mpfs, Tea Party Terrorist at August 07, 2011 11:38 AM (50Nvx)

106 Adam Scott (heh....with Tigger's former caddy) is ahead at Firestone.

Karma's a bitch, Tiger.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, wearing a cute, pink suicide vest at August 07, 2011 11:38 AM (UOM48)

107 That's something new, an employee telling the boss, "No, I'm not leaving, and you can't make me."  I'd fire him as publicly as possible, just for spite.  But then again, I'm a terrorist...

Posted by: Lone Marauder at August 07, 2011 03:38 PM (8WV/O)

As someone mentioned earlier, this probably translates as: "No one else would take the job."

Posted by: alexthedude at August 07, 2011 11:39 AM (Awmba)

108 110 107
The Great Gatsby

Posted by: mpfs, Tea Party Terrorist at August 07, 2011 03:38 PM (50Nvx)

Could not stand that book when I had to read it in school.  Should I give it another go?

Posted by: alexthedude at August 07, 2011 11:40 AM (Awmba)

109 IIRC, there are a couple formulations of thinking in German, one of which means to actually think on something and the other meaning to have knowledge of--can't remember which is which.  Besides, it's a neologism, linguistic consistency be damned.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at August 07, 2011 11:40 AM (s3JuV)

110 Alex, Give it another try. This time you might like it.

Posted by: mpfs, Tea Party Terrorist at August 07, 2011 11:41 AM (50Nvx)

111 111 Adam Scott (heh....with Tigger's former caddy) is ahead at Firestone.

Karma's a bitch, Tiger.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, wearing a cute, pink suicide vest at August 07, 2011 03:38 PM (UOM4

A bitch with two kids and a 5-iron. Run, Tiger, run!

Posted by: alexthedude at August 07, 2011 11:41 AM (Awmba)

112 115 Alex,
Give it another try. This time you might like it.

Posted by: mpfs, Tea Party Terrorist at August 07, 2011 03:41 PM (50Nvx)

Will do, on your recco. Thanks, mpfs.

Posted by: alexthedude at August 07, 2011 11:42 AM (Awmba)

113 Posted by: Jane D'oh, wearing a cute, pink suicide vest at August 07, 2011 03:29 PM

My barber's nine year old daughter was murdered along with her sister and brother in-law.
She was gone to school and came home to find them dead and the house burned down. That was twenty-five years ago. We've talked about it for a couple of years now and just this last month she told me she had let it go and was happy for the time she'd had with them.

Posted by: Beto Ochoa at August 07, 2011 11:43 AM (lpWVn)

114 Yes, but what about the unknown knowns?!?  Nobody never talks 'bout dat.

Posted by: Yogi Berra at August 07, 2011 11:43 AM (R74hq)

115 I can't imagine that, given the history of Sarah Palin, she would agree to give them final say in which picture made the cover.

I don't think newspapers and magazine have to "get permission" to post pictures unless the pictures were taken by a photographer who owns the copyright to them. \

Then the only permission they need is from the photographer.

What the subject must do is make sure to remove any bad pictures from the collection before allowing the photographer to leave with them.

Posted by: Vic at August 07, 2011 11:43 AM (M9Ie6)

116 Yes, but what about the unknown knowns?!?  Nobody never talks 'bout dat.

We talk about Obamaa+ every day.

Posted by: cherry π at August 07, 2011 11:45 AM (OhYCU)

117 CNBC say mid-east markets were down on Sunday. They trade Sunday through Thursday rather than Monday through Friday. Israel even delayed their opening a bit.

Link is to CNBC article:

http://tinyurl.com/3bapf7e

Posted by: Retread at August 07, 2011 11:45 AM (BO5ap)

118 Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose,
Nothing, that's all that Barry left me, yeah,
But feeling boned was easy, Lord, when he played the greens,
Hey, feeling boned was good enough for me, hmm hmm,
Good enough for me thanks to Barry McGee.

Damnit! No totally mind-wormed. Good thing I love Joplin.

Posted by: As IF... at August 07, 2011 11:48 AM (piMMO)

119

Speaking of Tiger, he can suck it.

I was behind him because I wanted Nicklaus' record beat. It's sports, you always want to see the bar set higher.

It was obvious that he wasn't the most personable guy out there but he wasn't an outright asshole like Vijay Singh is.

Well, turns out he is a piece of garbage.

Go away Tiger, nobody cares anymore.

Posted by: ErikW at August 07, 2011 11:49 AM (ByGI8)

120 If you think these clowns in Washington couldn't get any dumber. Our former Fed Chair gives one of the most mindnumblingly stupid statements of all time.

Former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan on Sunday ruled out the chance of a US default following S&PÂ’s decision to downgrade AmericaÂ’s credit rating.

“The United States can pay any debt it has because we can always print money to do that. So there is zero probability of default” said Greenspan on NBC’s Meet the Press


Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 07, 2011 11:50 AM (IIQIM)

121 On a lighter note, a friend gave us a bunch of home-grown heirloom tomatoes.

I'm making tomato pie for dinner.

When life gives you 'maters, make pie.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, wearing a cute, pink suicide vest at August 07, 2011 11:50 AM (UOM48)

122 In planning there are three categorizes:
Nice to do, Must do and DOO DOO. We are in the third category I am afraid.

Posted by: JSRAGMAN at August 07, 2011 11:51 AM (VM5DP)

123 Yes, but what about the unknown knowns?!?  Nobody never talks 'bout dat.

Let's keep it that way.

Posted by: Jamie Gorelick, shushing the report of muslims learning how to fly but not land at August 07, 2011 11:52 AM (sOXQX)

124 On a lighter note, a friend gave us a bunch of home-grown heirloom tomatoes.
I'm making tomato pie for dinner.
When life gives you 'maters, make pie.

I picked up Food Network Magazine this month precisely because of the beautiful heirloom tomato tart on the cover.

Posted by: As IF... at August 07, 2011 11:52 AM (piMMO)

125 I was given some home grown string beans last week. Nothing better than stuff out of the backyard garden.

Posted by: Retread at August 07, 2011 11:55 AM (BO5ap)

126 One thing I DO know is that Yummy Rummy began his career in Washington an an intern for teh Dick "W" Cheney.  If you've seen the infamous pix of Cheney, you know what the "W" stands for. 

Posted by: RushBabe at August 07, 2011 11:56 AM (Ew27I)

127 AOBT = any one but Tiger

Posted by: Jane D'oh, wearing a cute, pink suicide vest at August 07, 2011 11:56 AM (UOM48)

128 Too hot in central Texas for tomatoes this year.

Posted by: Beto Ochoa at August 07, 2011 11:56 AM (lpWVn)

129

I remeber when the MFM gave Bush a hard time for golfing maybe once a month. But, when President "Waste of Human Flesh" Obama golfs...It is good for the nation. SOBs................

Posted by: John Hipkins at August 07, 2011 11:57 AM (qXGZK)

130 And then there are things CNN doesn't know. Hey CNN, what does SEALS stand for? Why "sea, earth, and land" Spiker. Why do you ask? Nevermind.

Posted by: Spiker at August 07, 2011 11:58 AM (E8oYF)

131 Yes, we have no bananas.   --- I know that is known ( rather than unknown )

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at August 07, 2011 11:59 AM (UqKQV)

132 Bush never golfed once a month. He played 24 rounds over eight years.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 07, 2011 11:59 AM (IIQIM)

133  The Glenn Beck Magic Eight Ball says Barry will resign soon! \http://archive.glennbeck.com/colmes/index.shtml


Posted by: chillin the most at August 07, 2011 12:00 PM (6IV8T)

134 Fox: WASHINGTON -- Timothy Geithner has told President Barack Obama that he will remain on the job as Treasury secretary.

That's something new, an employee telling the boss, "No, I'm not leaving, and you can't make me." I'd fire him as publicly as possible, just for spite. But then again, I'm a terrorist...

Posted by: Lone Marauder at August 07, 2011 03:38 PM (8WV/O)

Maybe Geithner is staying because of the difficulties of getting Senate confirmation of a new appointment.  How do you suggest anyone else when Geithner was "not just the best qualified candidate for Treasury Secretary, but the only person qualified to handle the economic crisis". 

Clearly, the only person more qualified than Geithner is Obama himself.  Or maybe Jay Carney.

Posted by: SlaveDog at August 07, 2011 12:01 PM (PidTa)

135
Tomato Pie recipe (from Savannah cookbook author, Martha Giddens Nesbit)

1 9" pie shell, cooked and cooled
2 T. Dijon mustard
4 peeled, sliced tomotoes, drained on paper towels
Salt and pepper to taste
4 ou. Cheddar cheese
4 ou. Swiss cheese
2 T. mayonnaise
3 T. Parmesan cheese

When pie shell is cool, spread the Dijon mustard on shell.  Layer sliced tomatoes, salt, pepper, and cheeses, ending with cheese.  For top layer, spread mayonnaise over cheese (this is hard to do, but it will spread evenly during cooking).  Sprinkle with Parmesan cheese.

Bake in pre-heated 350º oven until bubbly, about 20 minutes.  Allow to sit for about 10 minutes before cutting.  Cut into eight wedges.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, wearing a cute, pink suicide vest at August 07, 2011 12:01 PM (UOM48)

136
More good news from the country formerly known as England: RAF College Chief Is Holocaust Denying Islamist Convert

Posted by: arhooley at August 07, 2011 12:03 PM (PNrRc)

137 Woot! This bookstore has assigned to me a decent hash for a change.

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at August 07, 2011 12:03 PM (C0L0L)

138

any type of pie recipe by joe

1. wife

2. new shoes

honey, i bet i want some pie as much as you want these shoes.

wait, eat, enjoy

 

Posted by: navycopjoe at August 07, 2011 12:04 PM (R7NIt)

139 Jane Duh: How horrific. These brutal murders happen often more than anyone wants to acknowledge. MSM: "Well, we do our part" -- 24/7 coverage O.J., Peterson, Anthony. I am sorry for this unforgivable loss of lives, my sympathy to their families and your sister, who all have to deal with the agony.

Posted by: tea party terrorist terrier, esq. at August 07, 2011 12:04 PM (TN7KL)

140 >>Tomato Pie recipe (from Savannah cookbook author, Martha Giddens Nesbit)<<

Sounds yummy.

Posted by: SlaveDog at August 07, 2011 12:04 PM (PidTa)

141 Boehner needs to come back to DC call back the house and send Cut Cap and Balance to the Senile Senate and POS Lyin kING!

Should have spent the week-end doing that so bright and early Monday morning they could announce they have a bill on its way to the Senate.

Posted by: Retread at August 07, 2011 12:04 PM (BO5ap)

142 Thanks Jane, I never had tomato pie. Sounds yummy.

Posted by: mpfs, Tea Party Terrorist at August 07, 2011 12:06 PM (50Nvx)

143 147

any type of pie recipe by joe

1. wife

2. new shoes

honey, i bet i want some pie as much as you want these shoes.

wait, eat, enjoy

 

Posted by: navycopjoe at August 07, 2011 04:04 PM (R7NIt)

Excellent recipe!

Posted by: tangonine at August 07, 2011 12:07 PM (x3YFz)

144 arhooley 144, it's amazing that Holocaust denial is still around. On the far Right sites, there's (too many) hardcore antiSemites; but even there they know not to pretend it didn't happen.

There's a pitch for you: "Too ignorant for the neo-Nazis? Convert to Islam!"

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at August 07, 2011 12:08 PM (C0L0L)

145

Hopefully, the upcoming film about the killing of Osama bin Laden will help President Obama look somewhat more presidential and decisive than the Negotiator-in-Chief we all have watched in action.

From a cooment on the NYT website.

These people really want to be convinced that somehow what they have seen with their own eyes is not the truth. Pathetic...

Posted by: KZnextzone at August 07, 2011 12:08 PM (ZUWaD)

146 Rummy's quote makes perfect sense to me...?  I always had to frown and wonder why the hippies, for all the Literature majors among them, couldn't understand those words.

Perfectly clear, IMO.

Posted by: tangonine at August 07, 2011 12:09 PM (x3YFz)

147 We've had stink bugs showing up here.  I wonder if that's what's been eating the habanero peppers just as they ripen?  I just started spraying the peppers with insecticidal soap, and that seems to have stopped whatever's feasting on them.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, wearing a cute, pink suicide vest at August 07, 2011 12:09 PM (UOM48)

148 FYI :  Dollar tumbling against Swiss Franc and Yen

For an early look at the risk aversion gripping the market look no further than the USDCHF and the USDJPY, the first of which just took out 0.75, and the second now almost at BOJ intervention levels. Ironically, since the math Ph.D.s have still not recalibrated their models, it is very likely that the collapse in the dollar will lead to an explosion in ES courtesy of the inverse correlation, which will once and for all confirm that global capital markets and now nothing but a robotic circus.

What than means is the stock market may rise tomorrow, because it takes more dollars to buy shares (because the dollar is worth less).

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at August 07, 2011 12:10 PM (4nfy2)

149 137 Why "sea, earth, and land" Spiker. Why do you ask?

The idiot Brit who made that up previously worked for the department of redundancy department.

Posted by: jwb7605 at August 07, 2011 12:11 PM (Qxe/p)

150 Gah.  If I'm going to make the tomato pie, I've got to go out in this heat to get Swiss cheese.


Posted by: Jane D'oh, wearing a cute, pink suicide vest at August 07, 2011 12:12 PM (UOM48)

151 Guy, what does "ES" stand for?

Posted by: joncelli at August 07, 2011 12:12 PM (RD7QR)

152 Jane, do you salt the tomatoes first so they will drain more liquid?

Posted by: As IF... at August 07, 2011 12:13 PM (piMMO)

153 Rummy's quote makes perfect sense to me...?  I always had to frown and wonder why the hippies, for all the Literature majors among them, couldn't understand those words.

Perfectly clear, IMO.

It was funny because it was deliberate.

Posted by: As IF... at August 07, 2011 12:14 PM (piMMO)

154 Hopefully, the upcoming film about the killing of Osama bin Laden will help President Obama look somewhat more presidential and decisive than the Negotiator-in-Chief we all have watched in action.

Any movie that focuses more on King Putt than the SEALs will flop faster than a modesty sermon at a porn convention.

Posted by: The Donkey Show at August 07, 2011 12:15 PM (ijjAe)

155 I don't want to be invaded by stink bugs, we've got way too many hippies here already.

Posted by: ParanoidStillAGirlInSeattle at August 07, 2011 12:15 PM (RZ8pf)

156 Technically dumass is correct as long as the US dollar is the international currency of record

 Nien!

Posted by: Germany crying over hyperinflation post WWII at August 07, 2011 12:16 PM (IIQIM)

157 I think this calls for a repeat of this gem from The Day Of The Downgrade:


This was a triumph!
I'm making a note here:
"HUGE SUCCESS!!"

It's hard to overstate
my satisfaction.

Raise the debt ceiling;
We do what we must,
because we can.

For the good of all of us.
Except the ones who are boned.

But there's no sense crying
over every left fork.
You just keep on trying
till you run out of pork.
And the funding gets done,
and you have a great run
for the people who are
still un-boned.

I'm not even angry...
I'm being so sincere right now -
Even though you broke my heart,
and dissed me.

And called me a RINO.
And said you'd primary me now.
All that hate just hurt because
I was so happy for you!

Now, these points of data
make a beautiful line.
And we're into debt.
Falling faster with time!
So I'm GLaD, I got dissed -
Think of all the perks not missed -
for the people who are
still un-boned.

(Go ahead and leave me...)
(I think I'd prefer to stay inside...)
(Maybe you'll find someone else
to help you?)
Maybe Black Mesa?
That was a joke! HAHA!! FAT CHANCE!!

Anyway this pork is great!
It's so delicious and moist!

Look at me; still talking
when there's rulings to do!
When I look out there,
it makes me GLaD I'm not you.

I've economies to run.
There is research to be done,
on the people who are
still un-boned.
And believe me I am
still un-boned.
I'm doing voting and I'm
still un-boned.
I feel fantastic and I'm
still un-boned.
While you're dying I'll be
still un-boned.
And when you're dead I will be
still un-boned.

Still un-boned.

Still un-boned.
Posted by: ConGress at August 04, 2011 03:04 PM (kaalw)

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at August 07, 2011 12:16 PM (C0L0L)

Posted by: Truman North at August 07, 2011 12:19 PM (K2wpv)

159
Any movie that focuses more on King Putt than the SEALs will flop faster than a modesty sermon at a porn convention.

Posted by: The Donkey Show at August 07, 2011 04:15 PM (ijjAe)

How much you wanna bet that he'll appear as himself in the film?

Otherwise, who would be picked to play him?

Posted by: ErikW at August 07, 2011 12:21 PM (ByGI8)

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 07, 2011 12:22 PM (IIQIM)

161 I saw the most incredible thing in mass today. Vietnamese nuns were there asking for money, describing what they in their mission. They visit and care for the elderly,  they care for the sick, they do early child care, etc. Then they started talking about counseling women who were going to have or had had abortions and burying fetuses. The congregants were fine until they started talking about abortion and then you could WATCH the libtards freeze up. They faces went from "how nice" to "I don't want to hear this, I don't want to hear this".

Posted by: dagny at August 07, 2011 12:23 PM (7b8OX)

162 Ollie North looks like he's been crying all day. He looks old.

Posted by: As IF... at August 07, 2011 12:24 PM (piMMO)

Posted by: Truman North at August 07, 2011 12:25 PM (K2wpv)

164 173 Sadly it wasn't an Onion parody that C. Roemer said 'we're pretty fucked' on Dickbag Maher's show on Friday.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 07, 2011 12:26 PM (IIQIM)

165 What than means is the stock market may rise tomorrow, because it takes more dollars to buy shares (because the dollar is worth less).

If there are banks detonating, they would have to sell assets to cover their losses which would send stocks down as well, right? At least I heard that the drop in gold Thursday was to cover losses-I'm just trying to figure out what manages to push everything down, in the event we see that.

Yes, I know a lot of money moved into US treasuries-to the point some of them had negative yields-but it seems unlikely to me that anyone would hold an 'investment' that is guaranteed to lose some money that we are now acknowledging could lose you a lot as well.

Posted by: Methos at August 07, 2011 12:26 PM (sOXQX)

166 174 Ollie North looks like he's been crying all day. He looks old. Posted by: As IF... at August 07, 2011 04:24 PM (piMMO) These are hard days for people who love their country.

Posted by: joncelli at August 07, 2011 12:27 PM (RD7QR)

167 Truman, that's quite a grade he got on his tool though

Posted by: cherry π at August 07, 2011 12:28 PM (OhYCU)

168 Posted by: Downscaled Upscale at August 07, 2011 04:24 PM (IhHdM)

Oh dear. We were watching that at precisely the same time. However, I went to The Onion to find something funny to break the mood and found "Cash-Strapped PBS Releases Nova Special on Physics Behind Rhythmically Bouncing Breasts"

I'd link it for the fellas, but it amounted to nothing.

Posted by: As IF... at August 07, 2011 12:29 PM (piMMO)

169 Sadly it wasn't an Onion parody that C. Roemer said 'we're pretty fucked' on Dickbag Maher's show on Friday.

I'd like to see her testifying before Congress again.

Posted by: Methos at August 07, 2011 12:29 PM (sOXQX)

170 I didn't did not know that! Posted by: Dick Martin

Dick never used the contraction.  Probably never shot the line sober either.


Posted by: DaveA at August 07, 2011 12:30 PM (pnDL7)

171

A slow day brings out the lurkers. I love the humor you guys and gals have here. I found this on Michelle Malkin's. Funny logo.

http://tinyurl.com/3cjj8tr

Posted by: fr8dog at August 07, 2011 12:33 PM (NmSwV)

172 "Young lady!  We do not use contractions in this house!"  -Peggy Hill's mom

Posted by: Truman North at August 07, 2011 12:33 PM (K2wpv)

173 People are conveniently forgetting that one of the reasons for this extended 'Recession' (i.e. Depression 2.0) is that bad investments were bought up by the Fed and other industries (notably GM) were not allowed to proceed normally to bankruptcy (and even the process it was allowed kicked the legs out from investors in favor of the Unions).

As a result it is taking longer to reach corrected levels in the housing market and companies that should have failed and either reorganized or been sold are still struggling with the problems that caused them to fail in the first place. Add to that that investors are concerned about another Government takeover that doesn't recognize the original investors claims and reduced employment.

Then to top it all off; local and State governments are over their heads with benefit costs for their Union workforce with no easy way out from under.

It's like eating bowl after bowl of cheese or meat. Eventually your bowels don't move and you're in so much pain you can't eat anything.

Stagnation and refusal to accept that prices have to come down is keeping down the recovery. Oh eventually they will but not in time to help keep us from plunging further. Without demand, production keeps being lowered. Consumers pay what they can afford. Producers want as much as possible. It's a balance that has to be reckoned with and right now we're out of balance.

Greed is not good and clinging to past actions and prices only leads to lowered sales and production. Lowered sales and production leads to lower employment (and layoffs) which in turn lowers sales.

Posted by: Tea Party Terrorist Hobbit at August 07, 2011 12:33 PM (a7UGG)

174 What than means is the stock market may rise tomorrow, because it takes more dollars to buy shares (because the dollar is worth less).

What? Not based on the shares traded, but the dollars which make the transaction possible?

Posted by: As IF... at August 07, 2011 12:33 PM (piMMO)

175 However, I went to The Onion to find something funny to break the mood and found "Cash-Strapped PBS Releases Nova Special on Physics Behind Rhythmically Bouncing Breasts"

Pfft. I've read the professional literature on the subject already. It's in the premier periodical on the subject, Juggs. I understand that the Germans have released a competing journal called Der Busten Unter Halter Geselleschaft.

I doubt Nova can compete with those peer-reviewed and highly-respected professional journals.

Posted by: Monty at August 07, 2011 12:34 PM (FC+dS)

176 That logo depicts a set of gears which could not in real life turn.  Well done!  Innovative depiction of gridlock!

Posted by: Truman North at August 07, 2011 12:34 PM (K2wpv)

177 168 is a work of art. For those who may not get it explanations are here and here (song).

Posted by: Methos at August 07, 2011 12:35 PM (sOXQX)

178 Asia opens about 4-5pm eastern time depending on the market. Dubai already opened lower. I like this bog better during football season. Miss the cheerleaders on Sunday

Posted by: Jeff at August 07, 2011 12:36 PM (b7V3N)

179 Innovation is already relegated to the Smithsonian?  Great job, comrades!

Posted by: cherry π at August 07, 2011 12:36 PM (OhYCU)

180

What? Not based on the shares traded, but the dollars which make the transaction possible?

Sure.  Why do you think the stock market is at almost 12K and not at, say, 6-8K?  It sure isn't because business is good.  It's because it takes $12K to by what $6-8K used to buy.

Posted by: Truman North at August 07, 2011 12:37 PM (K2wpv)

181 Is that a real logo because it looks pretty eff'ed up.

Posted by: As IF... at August 07, 2011 12:37 PM (piMMO)

182 Veronique de Rugy RT: How a US downgrade affects the states: http://tinyurl.com/3exqkj3

Posted by: 80sBaby at August 07, 2011 12:39 PM (o2lIv)

183 Jeff, you're thinking of a dank noisome hive of lowlife critters and likely infections.

A bog's just a marsh.

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at August 07, 2011 12:40 PM (C0L0L)

184

Yep that is a real logo on the Smithsonian Magazine's website. I reentered the home page and found it in the search function.

 

The stupid in the world is starting to scare me greatly.

Posted by: fr8dog at August 07, 2011 12:43 PM (NmSwV)

185 162 Jane, do you salt the tomatoes first so they will drain more liquid?

Posted by: As IF... at August 07, 2011 04:13 PM (piMMO)


*gasp*  Just got back from the Swiss cheese run for the pie.  This recipe doesn't call for it.  I usually salt tomatoes if I'm making sandwiches.

*gasp*  THE HEAT. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh, wearing a cute, pink suicide vest at August 07, 2011 12:43 PM (UOM48)

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at August 07, 2011 12:43 PM (C0L0L)

187

If I should die here... tell my wife... hello.

Posted by: The Neutral General at August 07, 2011 12:44 PM (K2wpv)

188 I like this bog better during football season. Miss the cheerleaders on Sunday

The comments at zerohedge have been quite correctly characterized around here as 'a wasteland.' I was, however, amused to see that like the second comment on the S&P announcement thread was 'Who cares, football starts next week.'

Posted by: Methos at August 07, 2011 12:44 PM (sOXQX)

189 That logo depicts a set of gears which could not in real life turn.  Well done!  Innovative depiction of gridlock!

It looks as though the first turn would cause the teeth to strike each other end to end.

Posted by: As IF... at August 07, 2011 12:44 PM (piMMO)

190 David Burge Rick Perry got a D at Texas A&M. Barack Obama got an AA+ at United States S&P.

So glad I follow this guy on Twitter.  Those of you who use Twitter should, too.




Jane D'oh, I cannot imagine how your sister and everyone who loved her friend and her daughter, and you, must feel!  Praying for all of you.  

Posted by: Theresa at August 07, 2011 12:45 PM (Zgfnd)

191 200 Cheerleader strikes a pose

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at August 07, 2011 04:43 PM (C0L0L)


On a Sunday. Really? Shouldn't you be giving it a rest?!

Posted by: As IF... at August 07, 2011 12:45 PM (piMMO)

192 Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at August 07, 2011 04:43 PM (C0L0L)

Hell.
Go.

Posted by: Methos at August 07, 2011 12:46 PM (sOXQX)

193 200 Cheerleader strikes a pose Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at August 07, 2011 04:43 PM (C0L0L) Okay, that was just WRONG.

Posted by: joncelli at August 07, 2011 12:46 PM (RD7QR)

194

Man, I am bored to death.  Have no money so can't go shopping.  Too hot to sunbathe or do yard work.  Laundry is all done.  Husband doing some work at home.  Daughter off to Maine with her BFF.  I can't even get up any outrage today.  Just played Scrabble online for about an hour, got bored with that.

I guess this is what they mean by the "dog days," eh?

Posted by: rockmom at August 07, 2011 12:47 PM (lSyyU)

195 I guess this is what they mean by the "dog days," eh? Posted by: rockmom at August 07, 2011 04:47 PM (lSyyU) Yup. Might as well start drinking.

Posted by: joncelli at August 07, 2011 12:47 PM (RD7QR)

196 Skyrim looks really sexy

Posted by: The Dude at August 07, 2011 12:48 PM (M8yfa)

197 Hmmmm, notice my hash has changed once again.  Zgfnd.  Maybe I should have invested my $$ in zigfunds, whatever those are, then I wouldn't be as scrood.  But then again, probably not.

Off for a family day today.  Take care, everyone, and be safe. 

Posted by: Theresa at August 07, 2011 12:48 PM (Zgfnd)

198

...and everybody tries to control the future by guessing the latter of the series by basing their ideas off the first two -- which really aren't all that known or incorrectly surmised

...and it never works, ever

Posted by: you know at August 07, 2011 12:48 PM (yN6cl)

199 208 Man, I am bored to death.  Have no money so can't go shopping.  Too hot to sunbathe or do yard work.  Laundry is all done.  Husband doing some work at home.  Daughter off to Maine with her BFF.  I can't even get up any outrage today.  Just played Scrabble online for about an hour, got bored with that.

I guess this is what they mean by the "dog days," eh?


Do you have any movies or books you haven't seen or read in awhile?

Posted by: 80sBaby at August 07, 2011 12:50 PM (o2lIv)

200
Hopefully, the upcoming film about the killing of Osama bin Laden will help President Obama look somewhat more presidential and decisive than the Negotiator-in-Chief we all have watched in action.


A noun, a verb, and Osama bin Laden.

Posted by: 2012 campaign at August 07, 2011 12:50 PM (PNrRc)

201 Guaranteed market stability tomorrow:

The $2.9 trillion municipal bond market is preparing for “hundreds and hundreds” of downgrades after Standard & Poor’s lowered the U.S. one level to AA+, the first-ever reduction for the country.
S&P is likely to cut its ratings on municipal debt secured by the federal government, such as...

Posted by: Methos at August 07, 2011 12:51 PM (sOXQX)

202 Jeez.

WTF is on FNC? I thought it was a one time thing when they did this 3 weeks ago but now it is looking like a regular thing. I am a woman. I love smart, witty, beautiful women (although not nearly as much as smart, witty, beautiful men) but all I hear when I turn it on is "squawk, squawk, squawk".

I will buy a six pack of any beer of choice for the man who can make it through an entire episode of this hen-fest.

Posted by: As IF... at August 07, 2011 12:51 PM (piMMO)

203 Adam Scott is running away with the Firestone.

Awesome.

AOBT.  Anyone but Tiger.  (Heh....at first I typed "AOBO" thinking of Zero.)

Posted by: Jane D'oh, wearing a cute, pink suicide vest at August 07, 2011 12:52 PM (UOM48)

204 That from bloomberg.com

Posted by: Methos at August 07, 2011 12:53 PM (sOXQX)

205 O/T:  I just left a question for 80's and Monty and anyone else who can answer it.  It's about the S&P rating thing and the impact people are saying it could have.

TIA

Posted by: curious at August 07, 2011 12:53 PM (k1rwm)

206 Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at August 07, 2011 04:43 PM (C0L0L)

That is just mean!

Note to self:  No more click-click on Toilet Hobo's links.

Posted by: Vlad Putin at August 07, 2011 12:53 PM (/izg2)

207 oh sorry, left the question in Monty's non book thread.

Posted by: curious at August 07, 2011 12:54 PM (k1rwm)

208 Future historians will look back on August 2011 as "The Great Boning".

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at August 07, 2011 12:54 PM (C0L0L)

209 209 I guess this is what they mean by the "dog days," eh?

Posted by: rockmom at August 07, 2011 04:47 PM (lSyyU)


Yup. Might as well start drinking.

Posted by: joncelli at August 07, 2011 04:47 PM (RD7QR)

Heh.  Watched a movie last night where the wife mixes a drink in the morning and the husband asks here "Isn't it a bit early to start drinking"?  She replies, with an eye-roll, "I'm awake..."

Posted by: Ace's liver at August 07, 2011 12:54 PM (/gOMq)

210 A few days ago in the midst of the U.S. going to hell in a hand basket, some of us started sockpuppeting as Funny Town Names.

Here's to Toad Suck, Arizona.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, wearing a cute, pink suicide vest at August 07, 2011 12:55 PM (UOM48)

211 Man, I am bored to death.  Have no money so can't go shopping.  Too hot to sunbathe or do yard work.  Laundry is all done.  Husband doing some work at home.  Daughter off to Maine with her BFF.  I can't even get up any outrage today.  Just played Scrabble online for about an hour, got bored with that.

Netflix is great.Hulu and You Tube are free. I don't think I've ever once gone to YT to look at a vid that  didn't end up watching 10 others that I wasn't looking for. Cracked.com is a great little black hole. Every time AOS links it I end up segueing through about 20 other links.

Ans, if you like games, Pogo is great. It's free, but for about $26 a year you avoid the ads.

Posted by: As IF... at August 07, 2011 12:55 PM (piMMO)

212 Damn thievin' sock.

Posted by: NC Ref at August 07, 2011 12:55 PM (/izg2)

213 puppehtoff

Posted by: garrett at August 07, 2011 12:55 PM (u+WLb)

214

Yep that is a real logo on the Smithsonian Magazine's website. I reentered the home page and found it in the search function.

I subscribed to Smithsonian for a short while but cancelled because every. single. article. has to mention global warming as the cause of any negative effect in the history of everything.

Posted by: ErikW at August 07, 2011 12:56 PM (ByGI8)

215 Just saw a young hipster type on the road, with Who is John Galt written on his rear windshield. So there's that.

Posted by: USS Diversity at August 07, 2011 12:56 PM (KbEJl)

216 215 Guaranteed market stability tomorrow:

The $2.9 trillion municipal bond market is preparing for “hundreds and hundreds” of downgrades after Standard & Poor’s lowered the U.S. one level to AA+, the first-ever reduction for the country.
S&P is likely to cut its ratings on municipal debt secured by the federal government, such as...

Posted by: Methos at August 07, 2011 04:51 PM (sOXQX)

I have no idea how municipal debt was rated as highly as it's been rated.  At least here in Cali, it seems clear nearly every muni bond holder is going to take some kind of "haircut" in the next five years.

Posted by: Ace's liver at August 07, 2011 12:56 PM (/gOMq)

217 AOBT.  Anyone but Tiger.  (Heh....at first I typed "AOBO" thinking of Zero.)

The sticker in my truck window says Anyone but Obama 2012.

Posted by: As IF... at August 07, 2011 12:57 PM (piMMO)

218

Hi, I'm from the government (watch the whole thing it's heartbreaking)

http://tinyurl.com/4xx2fvh

 

Posted by: robtr at August 07, 2011 12:58 PM (MtwBb)

219 Yikes! Currently 107F in Bartlesville, Ok.

Posted by: 80sBaby at August 07, 2011 12:59 PM (o2lIv)

220 231 AOBT.  Anyone but Tiger.  (Heh....at first I typed "AOBO" thinking of Zero.)

The sticker in my truck window says Anyone but Obama 2012.

Posted by: As IF... at August 07, 2011 04:57 PM (piMMO)

Put that on your truck where I live and you better keep spare tires handy.  The reality based community doesn't like to be confronted with, well, reality.  It makes them angry and destructive.

Posted by: Ace's liver at August 07, 2011 12:59 PM (/gOMq)

221 Rockmom, when's the last time you soaked in a tub?

Posted by: As IF... at August 07, 2011 12:59 PM (piMMO)

222

I once subscribed years ago when I was stupidly missing the DC of my high school days. Let it go long before globull warming caught on.

Funny about high school, when mom and dad are paying the freight, you don't seem to notice the costs. I am trying with all my might to get it through my 12 yo son's brain.

Like I said earlier, the stupid is getting scarey.

Posted by: fr8dog at August 07, 2011 12:59 PM (NmSwV)

223 There are known knowns. ....
-- Donald Rumsfeld

There are stuffs you just plain forgot too

Posted by: De' Debil Hisself at August 07, 2011 01:00 PM (lpWVn)

224 Here's to Toad Suck, Arizona.

By coincidence, I'm from Toad Suck, Arizona. And I am quite concerned about the sort of discourse I see in this thread. People are so negative when we should be cheering for our President, Barrack Hussein Obama to have two successful terms in office as it the only patriotic attitude to take.

Posted by: Ellie Light of Toad Suck, Arizona at August 07, 2011 01:01 PM (sOXQX)

225 Toad Suck, my ass.

Posted by: Intercourse and Blue Ball, PA at August 07, 2011 01:02 PM (KbEJl)

226 Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 07, 2011 04:22 PM (IIQIM)

I am starting to put put a lot more credence into Ulsterman's reports, especially after reading accounts from others that support what he says.

It's Jarrett that's really in charge, and Petey is a clueless idiot puppet.

Posted by: beedubya at August 07, 2011 01:03 PM (AnTyA)

227 Okay... so what is your pron name?

Use the name of your first pet and the name of the first street you remember living on.

Mine is awful! I am Spot Main. A little better if I use my second pet: Bobo Main.

Posted by: As IF... at August 07, 2011 01:04 PM (piMMO)

228 The sticker in my truck window says Anyone but Obama 2012.

Posted by: As IF... at August 07, 2011 04:57 PM (piMMO)

Put that on your truck where I live and you better keep spare tires handy.  The reality based community doesn't like to be confronted with, well, reality.  It makes them angry and destructive.

Posted by: Ace's liver at August 07, 2011 04:59 PM (/gOMq)

Same here.  Considering the lib who literally got in my face after church this morning accusing the Tea Party of being the cause of the downgrade (discussed in the earlier open thread), I'd be lucky to have a windshield left on my car.  Leaving the anti-Zero stuff off my car for now.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, wearing a cute, pink suicide vest at August 07, 2011 01:04 PM (UOM48)

229
This is one Ulsterman report I can actually believe.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 07, 2011 04:22 PM

Yes, because it's not another interview with his "Insider."

I hope ace gives this story the Anthony Weiner treatment. I told a liberal neighbor of mine the other night that if she hasn't heard of Operation Fast and Furious, then she heard it first from me: it, and not the economy, is going to be the nail in Obama's coffin.

Posted by: arhooley at August 07, 2011 01:04 PM (PNrRc)

230 Posted by: Intercourse and Blue Ball, PA at August 07, 2011 05:02 PM (KbEJl)

I used to dispatch trucks for the NE and used to LMAO at the number of perverted town names in PA.

Posted by: As IF... at August 07, 2011 01:05 PM (piMMO)

231
Hey, ya'll!

Posted by: Bee Hive, Alabama at August 07, 2011 01:05 PM (UOM48)

232 Toad Suck, my ass.

Posted by: Intercourse and Blue Ball, PA at August 07, 2011 05:02 PM (KbEJl)

Word to your moms.

Posted by: Knockemstiff, Ohio at August 07, 2011 01:06 PM (ByGI8)

233 Generalissimo Jugears will hand over highly classified material to James Fuckin' Cameron's 2nd ex-wife to make a 2 hour campaign film for him, so what if some SEALS get killed.

No Hollywood hack will get their hands on his college transcripts though

I hope the bitch loses her ass on the film

Posted by: kbdabear at August 07, 2011 01:06 PM (Y+DPZ)

234 242 Okay... so what is your pron name?

Use the name of your first pet and the name of the first street you remember living on.


*snort*

Posted by: Meow South at August 07, 2011 01:06 PM (McHnx)

235

I have no idea how municipal debt was rated as highly as it's been rated.  At least here in Cali, it seems clear nearly every muni bond holder is going to take some kind of "haircut" in the next five years. Posted by: Ace's liver


Because of POLITICS! The game that the agencies and Feds have been playing consisted of the Feds ignoring the agencies' fraudulent ratings in exchange for not downgrading government bonds. It's only after serious dislocations like the market crash or government bankruptcy that the collusion becomes apparent.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 07, 2011 01:06 PM (DEcmU)

236 Same here.  Considering the lib who literally got in my face after church this morning accusing the Tea Party of being the cause of the downgrade (discussed in the earlier open thread), I'd be lucky to have a windshield left on my car.  Leaving the anti-Zero stuff off my car for now.

Yeah? Well, then the libs are going to love the matching yard signs I'm going t put out.

And...at church? Seriously?

Posted by: As IF... at August 07, 2011 01:07 PM (piMMO)

237 Heh.  Cooter, Arkansas

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 07, 2011 01:07 PM (UOM48)

238 And...at church? Seriously?

Posted by: As IF... at August 07, 2011 05:07 PM (piMMO)

Srsly.  Check the earlier open thread (about noonish time).

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 07, 2011 01:08 PM (UOM48)

239 Conception Bay, Newfoundland

Posted by: 80sBaby at August 07, 2011 01:09 PM (o2lIv)

240
Okay... so what is your pron name?

Use the name of your first pet and the name of the first street you remember living on.


Sally Van Nuys.

Not bad actually.

Posted by: arhooley at August 07, 2011 01:09 PM (PNrRc)

241

Same here.  Considering the lib who literally got in my face after church this morning accusing the Tea Party of being the cause of the downgrade (discussed in the earlier open thread), I'd be lucky to have a windshield left on my car.  Leaving the anti-Zero stuff off my car for now.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, wearing a cute, pink suicide vest at August 07, 2011 05:04 PM (UOM4

The new Tone strikes again!

Posted by: buzzion at August 07, 2011 01:09 PM (GULKT)

242 Lyin POS POTUS come on teleprompter to calm the gitters of a nation he almost singlehadely has spent to the brink of destruction.
B+ will be the US credit rating when this ass clown leaves office.

Posted by: Concealed Kerry or submit! at August 07, 2011 04:00 PM (tHnoW)

Well, in fairness, Obumbles did say he was doing a solid B+ job.

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at August 07, 2011 01:09 PM (WUWb9)

243 Fomunda, Wisconsin

Posted by: USS Diversity at August 07, 2011 01:10 PM (KbEJl)

244 Jasper Blueberry.

Posted by: joncelli at August 07, 2011 01:10 PM (RD7QR)

245

Use the name of your first pet and the name of the first street you remember living on.

Mine is awful! I am Spot Main. A little better if I use my second pet: Bobo Main.

Crystal Park.

That might sound hot if I wasn't a dude!

Posted by: ErikW at August 07, 2011 01:11 PM (ByGI8)

246

Honest to God, I don't know why Zero isn't wearing a party hat and flipping America the bird while he plays golf. His attitude couldn't be more celebratory. He is getting less resistance than I ever would have imagined.

Posted by: Marybel at August 07, 2011 01:12 PM (Hic+o)

247 Oh geez, Jane!

I was just about to comment that your church-going buddy wasn't minding his/her Southern manners. Then, I went and read the comment!

AHAHAAA!

What a jackass!

Posted by: As IF... at August 07, 2011 01:12 PM (piMMO)

248 >>Okay... so what is your pron name?

Use the name of your first pet and the name of the first street you remember living on.<<

Rex McKinley.

Sounds better than my RN.

Posted by: SlaveDog at August 07, 2011 01:13 PM (PidTa)

249 brb, looking for the real killer of the economy. Could be on the next hole...

Posted by: barry potus at August 07, 2011 01:14 PM (FcR7P)

250 254 Conception Bay, Newfoundland

Posted by: 80sBaby at August 07, 2011 05:09 PM (o2lIv)

If only that was the weirdest name that place had.

Posted by: Dildo, Newfoundland at August 07, 2011 01:15 PM (GULKT)

251 I can't even imagine the plot that would develop from names such as these!

Posted by: As IF... at August 07, 2011 01:15 PM (piMMO)

252 267 brb, looking for the real killer of the economy. Could be on the next hole...

I suggest he hire the detectives that OJ was using to track down Nicole's killers.

Posted by: As IF... at August 07, 2011 01:16 PM (piMMO)

253 Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at August 07, 2011 04:16 PM (C0L0L)

Should say, "Maybe Tea Parties?" instead of "Maybe Black Mesa?"....

Posted by: cthulhu at August 07, 2011 01:16 PM (kaalw)

254 Let's see if The Man Who Would Make the Oceans Receed can handle this one;

Latest Crisis: Solar Storms Are Set to Hit the Earth


Posted by: kbdabear at August 07, 2011 01:17 PM (Y+DPZ)

255 Second pet and street:

Fluffy Cosmos.

Heh.

Posted by: SlaveDog at August 07, 2011 01:17 PM (PidTa)

256 So Bloomberg reports: The decision by Standard & Poor’s to downgrade the U.S. credit rating leaves France as the AAA country most likely to lose its top grade, some investors and economists say. France is more expensive to insure against default than lower-rated governments including Malaysia, Thailand, Japan, Mexico, Czech Republic, the State of Texas and the U.S. “France is not, in my view, a AAA country,” said Paul Donovan, London-based deputy head of global economics at UBS AG. “France can’t print its own money, a critical distinction from the U.S. It is not treated as AAA by the markets.” Mish at globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com notes this (Monty sometimes refers to Mish), and opines: Structurally the only way to resolve the European mess is 1. Adoption of a European nanny state complete with common bonds and common fiscal policies 2. Partial breakup of the Eurozone Euro Endgame Would Germany go along with the former? How difficult is the latter? I cannot answer the former but the latter is easier said than done. Greece for example would immediately blow up in hyperinflation if it was forced to immediately go back on the Drachma. No one would want that. Capital and human capital would both flee Greece. The same might apply to Portugal and Spain. Germany could leave. Otherwise, slowly but surely the European Nanny State solution will be forced down the throats of screaming German taxpayers. The Eurozone will not end the Euro. Instead, look for a master, supranational nanny state to grip Europe and force square national pegs into round fiscal holes. The Germans will swallow the pain, and a whole new set of bureaucrats will manage the fiscal policies of entire nations within the Eurozone. The EU won't risk hyperinflation in Greece by dumping it from the Euro. The EU will take the easy way out, the kick-the-can solution, which is to force fiscal sovereignty into the EU shredder. The Germans sucked up the huge tax liabilities of reunification, they will suck up the burdens of bailing out half of Europe. The price will be a monstrous doubling of the authority and reach of Brussels Eurocrats into the fiscal affairs of EU members, far beyond what they have now. The EU must print Euros to survive, so it will. If that requires member states to surrender their fiscal autonomy to a larger EU authority, they will do so in order to get freshly minted Euros out of the ECB.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 07, 2011 01:17 PM (AZGON)

257

242Okay... so what is your pron name?

Use the name of your first pet and the name of the first street you remember living on.

Posted by: Ginger Sunnybrook at August 07, 2011 01:19 PM (Hic+o)

258 Hooker, OK. Home of the Hooker Horned Toads

Posted by: Ginger Sunnybrook at August 07, 2011 01:20 PM (Hic+o)

259 While I'm quoting Mish, this is worth noting: Is there any kind of stimulus the US did not try in the last 10 years? We had 1% interest rates from Greenspan fueling housing. We had wars from Bush and Obama fueling defense industry employment. We had two rounds of Quantitative easing from the Fed. We had cash-for-clunkers. We had two housing tax credit packages. We had an $800 billion stimulus package from Congress for "shovel-ready" projects. We had stimulus kickbacks to states. We had HAMP (Home Affordable Mortgage Program). We had bank bailouts out the wazoo to stimulate lending. We had Small Business lending programs. We had central bank liquidity swaps. We had Maiden Lane, Maiden Lane II, and Maiden Lane III We had Single Tranche Repurchase agreements We had the Citi Asset Guarantee We had TALF, TARP, TAF, CPFF, TSLF, MMIFF, TLGP, AMLF, PPIP, and PDCF We had so many programs the Fed must have run out of letters because they were not given an acronym. That is a partial list. Other than bailing out bondholders what exactly do we have to show for any of it? The one-word answer is "debt".

Posted by: George Orwell at August 07, 2011 01:21 PM (AZGON)

Posted by: 80sBaby at August 07, 2011 01:22 PM (o2lIv)

261

Finish the quote:

"And then there are you morons in the press."

Posted by: TomJW at August 07, 2011 01:24 PM (Li2G9)

262 19 So, now that the downgrade is being spun as the "Tea Party Downgrade",

If only they has STFU about all that borrowing, nobody would have noticed?  Seriously?  That makes as much sense as blaming your dentist for your cavity because he told you about it.

Sometimes I feel like I'm the last sane adult left in this country.

Posted by: MarkD at August 07, 2011 01:26 PM (iYBP2)

263 Hooker, OK. Home of the Hooker Horned Toads

Posted by: Ginger Sunnybrook at August 07, 2011 05:20 PM (Hic+o)

 

I want that t-shirt.

Posted by: ErikW at August 07, 2011 01:26 PM (ByGI8)

264 Sometimes I feel like I'm the last sane adult left in this country.

You should visit more often.

Posted by: As IF... at August 07, 2011 01:27 PM (piMMO)

265 ErikW - I will check on the availability and get back to you.

Posted by: Ginger Sunnybrook at August 07, 2011 01:28 PM (Hic+o)

266 Sometimes I feel like I'm the last sane adult left in this country. Keep it quiet. They put targets on the backs of sane adults.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 07, 2011 01:29 PM (AZGON)

267 AOS needs a shop. If Ace won't do it, co-bloggers, get to it. I'd buy a shirt and a mug.

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 01:31 PM (piMMO)

268

Posted by: Ginger Sunnybrook at August 07, 2011 05:28 PM (Hic+o)

Sweet! Good looking out!

Posted by: ErikW at August 07, 2011 01:32 PM (ByGI8)

269

Porn name?

Mine would be Prince Evergreen.   Not bad, but the Mrs. has you all beat with Misty Bittersweet.

Posted by: The Outlaw in the Heavenly Hall at August 07, 2011 01:33 PM (zxrQh)

270 Anubis Point Pleasant

Posted by: KZnextzone at August 07, 2011 01:33 PM (ZUWaD)

271 Rusty Amsterdam

Posted by: XXX fer shur at August 07, 2011 01:38 PM (R74hq)

272 Okay... so what is your pron name?

Pupsodent ("Pupsy") B Street.
But I'm more expensive than I sound.

Posted by: jwb7605 at August 07, 2011 01:38 PM (Qxe/p)

273

Since the formula doesn't work for me (or at least would make me a tranny) can I make up my own porno name?

How about Donovan Chesterson?

Nicholas Jewels?

Posted by: ErikW at August 07, 2011 01:38 PM (ByGI8)

274 Titty Ho, UK

Fucking, Austria

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 07, 2011 01:39 PM (UOM48)

275 287 AOS needs a shop. If Ace won't do it, co-bloggers, get to it. I'd buy a shirt and a mug.

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 05:31 PM (piMMO)

I'd at least buy a coffee mug.  The logo and the banner with the Mencken quote are perfect for it. 

Posted by: Insomniac at August 07, 2011 01:47 PM (v+QvA)

276 Well, I just wandered over to the Washington Post to see what they were lying about today.  Turns out they have a pretty nice tick-tock of the House Republicans' combeack after the 2008 elections, and their strategy on the debt ceiling.  The Tea Party folks come out looking pretty good IMO, although I guess libs who think we are terrorists will find some ammo in it too.

Posted by: rockmom at August 07, 2011 01:48 PM (lSyyU)

277 232

Hi, I'm from the government (watch the whole thing it's heartbreaking)

http://tinyurl.com/4xx2fvh

 

Posted by: robtr at August 07, 2011 04:58 PM (MtwBb)

Link just takes you the youtube home page. 

Posted by: Insomniac at August 07, 2011 01:48 PM (v+QvA)

278

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at August 07, 2011 04:43 PM (C0L0L)

You evil, evil thing.

Posted by: TomJW at August 07, 2011 01:50 PM (Li2G9)

279 Use the name of your first pet and the name of the first street you remember living on.


Cheese louise: Dixie Unterzettlicherstraße

Posted by: Ma Bell at August 07, 2011 01:56 PM (H/MnC)

280 239 Toad Suck, my ass.

You really want to be where I'm at!

Posted by: Climax, NC at August 07, 2011 01:59 PM (/izg2)

281 Use the name of your first pet and the name of the first street you remember living on.

Mine's pretty good...for a chick's.

Miss Kitty Alabama

Posted by: NC Ref at August 07, 2011 02:01 PM (/izg2)

282 Use the name of your first pet and the name of the first street you remember living on.


Lucky Williams. Seriously.

Posted by: Lauren at August 07, 2011 02:08 PM (HsfLZ)

283 Hah! They gave the road I lived on a name. Well done.

Posted by: Dino Hogback at August 07, 2011 02:26 PM (FcR7P)

284 Pron name: Yum Yum Hassel

Posted by: California Witch freezing @ a So. Cal beach at August 07, 2011 02:47 PM (FrurV)

285 Okay... so what is your pron name?

Use the name of your first pet and the name of the first street you remember living on.

Raven Toledo. It would be even better if I were from French Lick, IN

Posted by: museisluse at August 07, 2011 02:47 PM (4Lj43)

286 What kind of pron name is Whiskers 99.

Posted by: MarkD at August 07, 2011 02:50 PM (iYBP2)

287 You magnificent bastard! I read your book!

Posted by: Patton torabora at August 07, 2011 03:19 PM (Mvp1M)

Posted by: De' Debil Hisself at August 07, 2011 03:54 PM (lpWVn)

289 Brigitte Corning.  Man, I could really rock the pole with that name; if I were a chick that is.

Posted by: billygoat at August 07, 2011 04:04 PM (CdgsE)

290 There are so much to learn from your post here, Uma, well done.

Posted by: Extra Lives Audiobook at August 07, 2011 04:25 PM (XYgaU)

291 I'm having a hard time discerning between the moron posts and the spam.

Posted by: tangonine at August 07, 2011 04:54 PM (x3YFz)

292 Uma makes good points, but she is lousy in the sack and can't cook worth a shit.

Posted by: sifty, Knight TEAmpler Crusader at August 07, 2011 05:03 PM (ECjvn)

293 thank you

Posted by: منتديات عراق توب at August 07, 2011 05:17 PM (HH9XL)

294 Why isn't there a stand alone thread to honor the tragic loss that the SOF has just incurred?  These were the nations' best.

Posted by: Steve at August 07, 2011 06:56 PM (ofHGE)

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