June 13, 2010
— Monty Difficulty: No Twilight or Harry Potter books.
When I was in college, I made it a point to read only "the classics" and expunge modern popular fiction from my sight. But alas, the cravings inevitably returned: horror novels, thrillers, sci-fi, even westerns. I took a special pleasure in sitting out on the grassy quad on a warm autumn day and blowing through some cheap paperback in a couple of hours.
Several of these "guilty pleasure" books still remain in my memory -- more than many of the so-called "classics" did, truth to tell. Clive Barker's Books of Blood is one. Peter Straub's Koko is another. But probably the most embarassing one, the one that wild horses would not have dragged out of me in my Modern American Lit class, was Alan's Moore's comic book The Watchmen. (This was before "graphic novels" had gained a patina of legitimacy; back then, it was just a thick comic book.) Moore's story actually struck me as being more fundamentally literature than many of the so-called "serious" novels I was reading at the time. I still have my original copy of The Watchmen; the turgid opuses by Updike and Mailer have fallen away. Batman: The Dark Knight Returns was another such revelation -- it rescued poor Bats from his long exile in Super Friends and 60's-era Adam West silliness. That comic book made Batman a badass again. (How badass? Badass enough to beat the shit out of frigging Superman, that's how badass.)
I worry much less about my reading tastes these days; I read whatever catches my fancy. I went through a period not long ago when I was reading bodice-ripper romances like this one (hilarious, I must say, though probably unintentionally so). I have an interest in medieval history, and much of the fiction dealing with this period is in the romance genre. Thrillers are my current interest: I'm working my way through the "Pendergast" novels of Lincoln Preston and Douglas Child.
So come on, Morons. I've fessed up my embarassing reading habits. What's your guilty pleasure?
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I'm finishing up W.E.B Griffin's Presidential Agent series right now. Already read (actually listened, with my long commute, I do audiobooks) the Corps series and the Army series.
I took a break to go through Moneyball again, just to watch the hometown Astros waste their first round picks on high school players.
No kidding though, I have Road to Serfdom and Liberal Fascism ready to go when I finish WEB. I actually picked those up from audible.
Posted by: Leland at June 13, 2010 04:13 AM (vQ5gI)
Posted by: carin at June 13, 2010 04:13 AM (54Rqu)
Guilty pleasure?? I guess the John Ringo series known as "Paladin of The Shadows" falls in that category. They are fun to read and they are borderline porn.
This week I finished Dale Brown's latest book, Executive Intent. If you like high tech military thrillers you'll like this one, although it is not as good as previous ones.
One thing about this book though, you can see strong ties to Obama and Hillary in the characters and the utter contempt that he has for them.
Posted by: Vic at June 13, 2010 04:16 AM (6taRI)
That's a good series. Hell, all of his book are good.
Posted by: Vic at June 13, 2010 04:16 AM (6taRI)
In the forward he explains that he had no intent of interjecting 'politics" into the book but right off the bat he signed on to the "Bush lied" meme about Iraq. I am vastly disappointed that the son of Alexander Haig would sign on to that meme.
Posted by: Vic at June 13, 2010 04:23 AM (6taRI)
Posted by: Barry O. at June 13, 2010 04:23 AM (Gk/wA)
1. Historical romance novels by Patricia Veryan, which are well-written and definitely not bodice-rippers. The Sanguinet series includes a megalomaniac villain who is trying to establish himself as the King of England. He is opposed by a bunch of lesser nobles who have been marginalized with undeserved accusations, as well as gypsies and assorted odd characters. Moronettes might like these.
2. Catherine Coulter's FBI series
3. Rereading Agatha Christie mysteries, of course!
Posted by: Miss Marple (redneck teabagger) at June 13, 2010 04:25 AM (xxe/9)
If you like historical fiction, of course you have to read the Sharpe's series by Bernard Cornwell. Cracking good yarns, and as a bonus a great education on blackpowder military tactics.
I just finished Bruce Catton's This Hallowed Ground, and I must say it has to be THE best one volume history of the Civil War I have ever read.
Turns out that it had been sitting in my bookshelves, untouched, and it's a first edition.
Not a clue as to where I got it.......
Posted by: Lazarus Long at June 13, 2010 04:27 AM (+MZ0U)
I used to read a lot of Mary Higgins Clark mystery novels. They always seemed to be about a young woman working in a glamorous profession somewhere in the northeast part of the country, who was in danger from a killer while she was investigating a big cover-up of some kind.
I also like to read nonfiction about the decadent lives of the rich and powerful, like Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil.
Even though my reading interests are literally all over the place, I still tend to read books that I "should" read oftentimes rather than ones I "want" to read. Need to work on that. Life's too short to only read books that others think you should read.
Posted by: Book Geek at June 13, 2010 04:27 AM (1+OO5)
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Posted by: Blue Hen at June 13, 2010 04:34 AM (1O93r)
Posted by: Penfold at June 13, 2010 04:34 AM (EdMSl)
Guilty Pleasures for me are: AOS HQ then iowahawk followed by American Thinker, Doug Ross and American Digest.
Posted by: sTevo at June 13, 2010 04:37 AM (zIUsq)
Agreed. His other stuff is more boring, but Sharpe was terrific and I was always impressed with the historical details. I loved how he would include a section at the end to talk about where he played with history and where he stayed true, very refreshing. The BBC movies are terrible, though.
I stopped W.E.B. Griffens stuff when I noticed paragraphs and sometimes whole pages where copied from book to book. I know you can't plagiarize yourself, but I felt cheated and insulted.
My current shame and pleasure is the Shadowmarch series by Tad Williams. I could call it a contemplation on man's relationship to the divine, but it is just a really ripping good tale. Very complex plot carried over 4 volumes. I will atone and return to "proper" reading once I have finished.
Posted by: countrydoc (formerly oLD gUY) at June 13, 2010 04:38 AM (P/D33)
About 2 years ago, after starting back on fiction with Jeffrey Deaver's "Lincoln Rhyme" stuff, I looked up Dean Koontz on a whim. I dug him heavily from the start and began to realize how politically conservative he was as I read. The Dean Koontz's Frankenstein Trilogy is unbelievable. The Odd Thomas series is also excellent. So much of his stuff is so freakin' good, plus, did I mention he was a conservative (who supported Fred Frikkin' Thompson in the '08 primaries?
Posted by: DrZin at June 13, 2010 04:38 AM (nXbmM)
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 13, 2010 04:43 AM (TPEo9)
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 13, 2010 04:47 AM (TPEo9)
I second that. His books are so popular here there is always a waiting list for the entire series at the library, even the ones that are years old.
Posted by: Vic at June 13, 2010 04:47 AM (6taRI)
Edgar Rice Burroughs, generally the John Carter of Mars series, but any of his book will do. No thinking required here!
Posted by: Dogbert at June 13, 2010 04:51 AM (2HvR+)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 13, 2010 04:54 AM (YPivX)
Posted by: Lincolntf at June 13, 2010 04:56 AM (TPEo9)
But, who am I to talk, I'm currently reading a biography of Charlemagne. Wouldn't it be cool if somehow we could arrange for Charlemagne to meet Bob Saget?
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 13, 2010 04:56 AM (YPivX)
Posted by: Monty at June 13, 2010 04:58 AM (O3eFQ)
Well, I'm off to the feed store. I gotta write one big bastard of a check so I can buy me a bag of that F-in' pig feed, and a pound of that bitchly cow corn. Toodles.
Posted by: Annie Wilkes at June 13, 2010 05:00 AM (YPivX)
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Posted by: Monty at June 13, 2010 05:31 AM (O3eFQ)
I absolutely devour trashy romances -- I actually write a monthly column about them for a blog -- but they're not all bad. The Kressley Cole books are REALLY good - sci-fi/fantasy romance, but not like that Twilight crap. I've read my fair share of Phillippa Gregory and Gregory Maguire ("Wicked," "Confessions of an Ugly Stepsister," etc) too.
I used to read the "Troubleshooters" series by Suzanne Brockmann. It's thriller/action romance centered around a group of Navy SEALs, and I read up to book 13 or something. But now I'm boycotting her -- she's a liberal shill who can't tolerate any diversity of thought or opinion, and a mind-blowingly huge hypocrite. She more or less slandered me and kicked me off her Facebook fanpage because I said I supported Scott Brown back in January. What really burns my butt about her is that she makes her living writing about the Navy and military types and their families, and yet will toss one of us aside like so much garbage (while publicly humiliating someone) if you don't tow her party line. I highly urge my fellow morons and moronettes to spread the word about this woman -- she'll witness the power of this fully operational moronosphere!
Posted by: CMS2004 at June 13, 2010 05:39 AM (DlVI/)
Posted by: Alex at June 13, 2010 05:54 AM (ifK+p)
@5 vic Agree. It's interesting to read reviews on Amazon with critics complaining about his character development vs lack of action. I've enjoyed the books because of the character. There's plenty of action there, if you understand the character.
@19 Yeah. It is very noticeable in the audiobooks, and I must admit, reading those sections over again would be frustrating. His last few books in the Brotherhood of War series tended to get away from it, by focusing on a new character. But in Presidential Agent, I get it; Castillo was a bastard son of a MoH winner and a German girl both from rich families, rinse and repeat.
Posted by: Leland at June 13, 2010 05:57 AM (vQ5gI)
Favorite canonical literature: Penthouse Letters
Favorite guilty pleasure: Penthouse Letters
See... two birds, one stone, yadayada.
Posted by: christian at June 13, 2010 06:00 AM (IV2Ya)
Yes his characters do have a "repeatness" to them. But I think all authors are guilty of this to a degree. I view Castillo as the "Craig Lowell" of this series except he is of Spanish descent in keeping with Griffin's home now being in Argentina.
Posted by: Vic at June 13, 2010 06:02 AM (6taRI)
Posted by: Y-not at June 13, 2010 06:02 AM (Kn9r7)
The summer smut I'm reading now include:
- Charlaine Harris' Southern Vampire series. The books have plots (hard to come by with lots of the smut I read), interesting characters, and kinda tie ya into the story. Not a lot of redundancy, yet, but after 10 books and a number of short stories I'm beginning to wonder where it's going. Yes, the books do have vampires and were-wolves and other super-natural creatures, but they're about as un-Twilight as they can be. The books are more adult, the characters are darker, and there are some pretty explicit scenes of violence and "adult" activities. Starting in the middle of this series would be a bad idea because the books build on one another. The vampire series is the basis of the True Blood series on HBO, but the books and the show are so different that you can love the books and still enjoy the program.
- Janet Evanovich's Stephanie Plum series (yea - I like series books). She has her 16th books, not including short stories, of the series due out at the end of June. After 16, the stories have gotten a bit redundant and the main character, Stephanie, needs to just make up her mind already, but the books are laugh out loud funny and highly entertaining (and have enough smut to keep you entertained but not necessarily ready to jump your husband). The books are set in Trenton New Jersey and my sister, who lives near there, loves that some of the landmarks referenced in the book are real. all of the books are quick, easy reads. You do want to start with # 1 and move ahead in order because you won't get it if you don't.
- Sarah Strohmeyer's Bubbles Yablonsky series. Not a lot of smut (at least not yet) and kinda in the same laugh out loud fashion as Stephanie Plum . I've only just begun this series. The books are a bit longer than Evanovich's but the stories are more complex and more developed while still being lighthearted and funny.
Posted by: Monster_Mom at June 13, 2010 06:07 AM (KbOez)
Posted by: Dr Mabuse at June 13, 2010 06:10 AM (CPdUf)
"Looking For Rachel Wallace" might be his best work.
Posted by: NJConservative at June 13, 2010 06:11 AM (LH6ir)
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Posted by: Y-not at June 13, 2010 10:11 AM (Kn9r7)
Ditto....Lulu is a hoot.
Favorite Fiction writer: Nelson DeMille.
Favorite Non-Fiction writer: Thomas Sowell
Posted by: Tami at June 13, 2010 06:16 AM (VuLos)
Posted by: Tunafish at June 13, 2010 06:17 AM (ZcDBk)
Posted by: Average Jen at June 13, 2010 06:17 AM (fRnux)
Posted by: NJConservative at June 13, 2010 06:19 AM (LH6ir)
And I love me some Jane Austen.
There. I said it.
Posted by: schizuki at June 13, 2010 06:22 AM (Xd9fe)
Posted by: Tunafish at June 13, 2010 06:24 AM (ZcDBk)
When I was a kid I read one of Jackie Collins' books, just to get to the naughty bits. We didn't have cable so I had to get my jollies somehow. All I really remember is an elevator sex scene where a guy starts taking a woman's clothes off and she says, "F*&% me, you bastard!"
Posted by: Crusty at June 13, 2010 06:26 AM (qzgbP)
Oh good Lord, sooooo bad. This is the way military fiction would be written if Tom Clancy had been raised exclusively on a diet of paint chips and popskull.
Posted by: apotheosis at June 13, 2010 06:26 AM (xWk3U)
The Stand is the only book I have by him. Even in it you can see the "liberalness" showing through with his hatred of the military.
Posted by: Vic at June 13, 2010 06:27 AM (6taRI)
I enjoy Bernard Cornwell's history...but his characters lose me as just not being believable people. Probably my problem.
The Patrick O'Brien sea novels about the Napoleonic era are very well written and fun...but if you don't know official naval terminology they can slow one down.
I enjoy all time travel/alternate history novels....I am a sucker for them....and have read some really good ones (The Lincoln Hunters; The Man in the High Castle) and some really bad ones.....one about a young Ronald Reagan as a movie actor living in late 30s California.
Also enjoy ufos. I'm fascinated about the possiblity of other-wordly cultures and how they might view us. The Fallen Sparrow is really good....as is her second book, whose title I can't remember.
Kenneth Roberts' Northwest Passage is wonderful historical fiction. Read it many times. Wouk's The Winds of War is also very entertaining as is The Caine Mutiny.
Anything by the late Jack Finney.....especially Time and Again.
Posted by: Increase Mather at June 13, 2010 06:29 AM (DezMz)
Shelby Foote .
Patrick Obrien , of course .
For quirky cult members . Tom Kelly writes about the trials and tribulations of turkey hunting.
Posted by: awkward davies at June 13, 2010 06:30 AM (B4e7Q)
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Posted by: Monty at June 13, 2010 06:36 AM (O3eFQ)
Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at June 13, 2010 08:54 AM (YPivX)
I got a great deal of pleasure out of The World According to Garp. Updike seemed to produce angst laden garbage that the NYT goofs and ministers with real issues (I'm thinking of somebody specific here that means nothing to anybody reading this) loved to wallow in.
There were a number of short story writers in the late 70s that I fooled myself into thinking were good when in reality they were extremely shallow and didn't write particularly well. Ann Beattie is the one who comes most to mind although to her credit, she was responsible for introducing me to the work of Raymond Carver, who was outstanding until he got off the sauce and shacked with that third-rate whore Tess Gallagher.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 13, 2010 06:38 AM (naZzF)
Posted by: Tunafish at June 13, 2010 06:39 AM (ZcDBk)
World War Z, PG Wodehouse, and Harry Potter series are givens. Outside of "the classics" and histories, I don't really read much other than horse training books (I guess that would be my light reading). One summer back when I was not quite 16, I did get ahold of one of those bodice rippers with an erstwhile boyfriend (erstwhile, because my dad wouldn't let me date) -- the book itself was rather stupid, we skipped to the "naughty" bit, and it inspired quite a bit of some rather torrid, impassioned kissing (made all the better because we had to sneak our smooches -- Dad would have killed him for kissing me...and maybe had my hide as well), but I don't know it that counts as reading.
Ok, I used to have the entire collections of Calvin & Hobbes, Bloom County, The Far Side, and Peanuts...and I loved them.
Posted by: unknown jane, humanities major, Cubs fan at June 13, 2010 06:44 AM (5/yRG)
Posted by: Jaclyn at June 13, 2010 06:46 AM (HV1jm)
I read one of his books from the library. It was the only one they had that was a stand-alone book called The Guns Of The Confederacy.
It was an outstanding book and I looked at the rest and they had three different series by him, but they were all incomplete with books missing here and there in the center of the series so I haven't picked them up.
Posted by: Vic at June 13, 2010 06:47 AM (6taRI)
Ohh yeah, "Brother Cadael" was great...now I want to go buy some books.
Oh, and I read Tim Robbins -- the prose and storylines are so over the top; it's better than pigging out on chocolate.
Posted by: unknown jane, humanities major, Cubs fan at June 13, 2010 06:50 AM (5/yRG)
Mr. Lewrie was leading the AoS lifestyle 200 years ago (with the obvious exception that he actually got laid once in awhile)--boozing, wenching, and sticking it to the French, too!
And the books are not nearly as plodding and difficult to read as some of the Aubrey/Maturin novels. They are much more fun to read!
Posted by: Original Mikey at June 13, 2010 06:50 AM (Av4L9)
Posted by: unknown jane, humanities major, Cubs fan at June 13, 2010 06:51 AM (5/yRG)
Posted by: Beth Wright at June 13, 2010 06:58 AM (H3FjP)
Posted by: Who is Good Will? at June 13, 2010 07:03 AM (nTZna)
Now , I like trollops as much as any man but pages of Ooooh, Alain zeez tings yooo dooo .
Zoot alors .
Posted by: awkward davies at June 13, 2010 07:04 AM (B4e7Q)
A+ on those, endlessly entertaining!
Also Vince Flynn, Brad Thor. The Lincoln Rhyme ones are great (Preston/Child). Lee Child's Jack Reacher series is another winner.
You can't beat Robert B. Parker.
Carl Hiassen writes some wickedly funny laugh out loud stuff.
Posted by: Peaches at June 13, 2010 07:08 AM (fwW9R)
Posted by: Dr Mabuse at June 13, 2010 07:10 AM (CPdUf)
and children's books like Uncle Pinky mentioned @32
I recently re-read Madeleine l'Engle's A Wrinkle in Time just for the image of a shadowed earth.
Posted by: Thomas Hooker at June 13, 2010 07:14 AM (W/MMc)
Posted by: Peaches at June 13, 2010 07:14 AM (fwW9R)
Posted by: SDN at June 13, 2010 07:15 AM (Uo/d8)
So true--that is my biggest gripe about his novels. Book #6 was especially bad about that, so just got to the point where I skipped over that shiat. There was a little bit more of that in Jester's Fortune, but not nearly as much.
I wish he would just say something like 'the conversation went on in pidgin French' or something and just get on with the dialogue.
Oh, and whoever it was that felt the need to defend O'Brian's novels, I was not disparaging them at all. I have the entire collection and enjoyed them immensely. I just thought that some of them were plodding and difficult to follow at times--the Dewey Lamdin series is much more earthy and easy to read, and I find myself chuckling a lot more as I work my way through each volume.
Posted by: Original Mikey at June 13, 2010 07:18 AM (Av4L9)
Posted by: Original Mikey at June 13, 2010 07:19 AM (Av4L9)
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As soon as I learned to read, I discovered that the books in the library with the spaceship stickers on the spine were...special.
For many decades, nothing else quite made the nut.
I've broadened out over the past 10-15 years, but reading for pleasure -- still SF and fantasy.
Oddly, although I hate most of the fantasy currently on sale ("extruded fantasy product"), the stuff I read to tatters is fantasy, not hard SF.
Not a guilty pleasure at all: Terry Pratchett. I wish I could get more people to read him; he's the best humorist currently writing, easily in the same class as Wodehouse, Thurber, and that crowd. His word play is a revelation, showing you stuff about the English language, and about human nature, you didn't know was there.
My guiltiest pleasure is C.J. Cherryh's <I>Fortress in the Eye of Time</i> series, a political thriller set as a medieval fantasy in a world that never was. Interminable, sprawling, clogged with detail, it nevertheless enthralls me, particularly the first volume.
The guiltiest thing about <I>Fortress:</I> In a book about golems, Pratchett writes that we humans seem to have a slip of paper in our heads saying, "Kings! What a great idea!" I agree with Pratchett that this is one of the most dangerous aspects of human nature. <I>Fortress</I> is unabashedly royalist, and it makes even me wish for a king like Cefwyn.
Posted by: DJMoore at June 13, 2010 07:23 AM (auErC)
Robert Adams "Horseclans" series (I have them all!) I note with relish the dedication in #14 <i>A Man Called Milo Morai</i>: "...and to Mister Bernhard Goetz, gentleman at arms."
Posted by: outlaw_wizard at June 13, 2010 07:24 AM (mKMj1)
Commie pinko shit, that was.
Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at June 13, 2010 07:24 AM (DB92a)
Posted by: mpfs at June 13, 2010 07:24 AM (3EKWc)
But, oh god, I feel terrible about this; this really is a guilty pleasure:
I still like the early <I>Doonesbury</I>. There was a time when Trudeau didn't take himself too seriously, and he made fun of his characters when they did.
Then he got bitter, and so did his comic. Tragic. I lost interest before I lost my liberalism.
Posted by: DJMoore at June 13, 2010 07:35 AM (auErC)
Posted by: rawmuse at June 13, 2010 07:35 AM (kO+WM)
- David Matzohfield
- The Matzoh of Casterbridge
- Two Years Before the Matzoh
- Matzoh Dick
- Little Matzohs
- Crime and Matzohballs
Posted by: Arbalest at June 13, 2010 07:36 AM (nP/tp)
In serious reading, I just re-read Anne of Green Gables for the first time in about ten years...and was impressed (and dismayed) by how 12-year-old girls in 1910 were expected to read and understand bigger words than most adults in 2010. Also that the girls stayed girls until they were sixteenish...
Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 13, 2010 07:38 AM (M9BNu)
Pride & Prejudice and Zombies, the Lincoln Child/Douglas Preston books (I hear they're doing a sequel to the Ice Limit!), true crime books, Jim Butcher's Dresden series, books based on historical events like John Berendt's and Eric Larsen.
Am rereading Heminway's and James' stuff--have to read them concurrently, because either one alone will wreck your own natural way of phrasing things.
Posted by: Quint&Jessel, Sea of Azof, Bly, UK at June 13, 2010 07:42 AM (1kwr2)
I'll also admit having a certain fondness for Joel C. Rosenberg's work in the Last Jihad Series, although I've only read from "The Ezekiel Option" to "Dead Heat". Kinda of like "24" meets Christian eschatology. Rosenberg can't quite pull off the Tom Clancy style...
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 13, 2010 07:44 AM (9hSKh)
Just finished Escape From Hell, Niven and Pournelle's sequel to Inferno. On Thursday morning I didn't even know this book existed. Found and finished by Thursday night. A 30 year closing of the circle.
Multi-re-reads at any time?: Heinlein, Coulter, Rowling, Scalzi, PJ.
Posted by: Kyle Kiernan at June 13, 2010 07:46 AM (aAIb3)
They're online, too, and list books on Amazon. Excellent idea.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 13, 2010 07:47 AM (M9BNu)
Oh, and if you do not know who Elvis Cole, Joe Pike and Robert Crais are: one makes you laugh, one will scare the hell out of you, and one writes about the other two.
Posted by: Uffda at June 13, 2010 07:47 AM (Tb3+f)
About a year ago I got the entire Discworld series by Terry Pratchett (around 25 books) and have been alternating them between others. I'm almost done and it makes me sad !
The Ice Limit sequel would be welcomed, I was bummed when they lost that asteroid.
Posted by: Tunafish at June 13, 2010 07:50 AM (ZcDBk)
Proves that what is "only" popular fiction may very well outlast the literature stuff.
Posted by: Kyle Kiernan at June 13, 2010 07:51 AM (aAIb3)
Posted by: Ceroth at June 13, 2010 07:53 AM (uHARe)
I love the Elvis Cole series! Another good one is John Lescroart with his Dismas Hardy stuff. And John Sandford's Prey series is excellent.
Posted by: Peaches at June 13, 2010 07:54 AM (fwW9R)
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Posted by: Quint&Jessel, Sea of Azof, Bly, UK at June 13, 2010 07:56 AM (1kwr2)
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Posted by: naturalfake at June 13, 2010 08:04 AM (I49Jm)
I used to like that series when it first started. But the "mammoth project" and endless parallel plots have ruined it. After "The Dreason Incident" I decided it was time to give up on it.
Like a lot of other authors of today, rather than taking control and finishing the series, he has opened up two other endless series after that one. The latest being a "Twilight" type vampire series.
That is the new standard now. Endless books that never advance the plot. The Wheel of Time Started that trend and everyone has jumped on that bandwagon.
Posted by: Vic at June 13, 2010 08:11 AM (6taRI)
And the subsequent full-on novel "Fishboy" from same.
Truly superb.
And some Larry Brown, too.
Posted by: rogerb at June 13, 2010 08:17 AM (GK/iA)
Where guilt comes into it is when I pick up comics. I love the early (say, pre-Carter-administration) Doonesbury. The guy had talent, what a shame. Bloom County. The Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers. R. Crumb. How can I think of feeling any guilt at all for reading a book, when I am getting chuckles from such lowbrow things as a drawing of Snappy Sammy Smoot saying "Don't wee-wee on your tee-vee set!"
Posted by: Splunge at June 13, 2010 08:18 AM (9uwvY)
I just finished Candide, Zagdig and Micromegas by Voltaire. Not bad for Frog-lit.
Posted by: Stop That - That's Silly at June 13, 2010 08:19 AM (bwQcx)
Posted by: rogerb at June 13, 2010 08:19 AM (GK/iA)
Posted by: Apocalytic Stress Syndrome at June 13, 2010 08:28 AM (Epj2t)
Posted by: ChicagoJedi at June 13, 2010 08:29 AM (WZFkG)
The J.D. Robb mystery series because I am fairly certain Nora Roberts has a time machine and has traveled into our future and is writing about it. The story is about a police officer in NY in 2058 after the"urban wars." Real meat and coffee is only obtainable by the ultra rich, everyone else has soy based products, no real chocolate, weapons are banned etc.
By the way, has anyone read the Kathy Reichs series and do you recommend them?
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at June 13, 2010 08:32 AM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 13, 2010 08:39 AM (9Lm5R)
Oh, did I mention he discovers an alternate fantasy universe where he, the lowly serf, is an uber-powerful wizard? So it had robots and magic and lasers and centaurs ... all topped with generous helpings of nudity.
Burned into my brain.
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Posted by: NJRob at June 13, 2010 08:43 AM (y/IxH)
123 oh no, I forgot to put in a word or two about Hunter, talk about quotable!
good to know I'm not the only Bloom County fan...never did get into Doonesbury, probably because I caught up with that strip after Trudeau became an annoying, self important git.
Posted by: unknown jane, humanities major, Cubs fan at June 13, 2010 08:44 AM (5/yRG)
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Posted by: Apocalytic Stress Syndrome at June 13, 2010 08:57 AM (Epj2t)
I also greatly enjoy the Pendergast novels. Fever Dream, the recent release, may be the best yet.
I can also highly recommend the following ongoing series of novels:
James Lee Burke's Dave Robicheaux series;
Arturo Perez-Reverte's Captain Alatriste series;
C.J. Sansom's Matthew Shardlake series; &
Phillip Kerr's Bernie Guenther series.
It is also much easier than you might think to polish off Patrick O'Brian's 20 novel Aubrey/Maturin series in a year or two.
Posted by: NCC at June 13, 2010 08:58 AM (GkYyh)
“Whatever Stark writes, I read. He’s a stylist, a pro, and I thoroughly enjoy his attitude.”
Stark's main character, known simply as Parker, has huge, ex-con attitude.
Posted by: PC14 at June 13, 2010 09:01 AM (XB+w8)
I also recommend the novels of Steven Pressfield (particularly Gates of Fire, which puts 300 to shame), Louis Bayard, and Matthew Pearl.
And Lindsay Faye's Dust and Shadow was the best non-Doyle Holmes story since The Seven Per-Cent Solution.
Posted by: NCC at June 13, 2010 09:02 AM (GkYyh)
Posted by: madamex at June 13, 2010 09:04 AM (eKfWX)
I'm reading one right now. The weird thing about Burke is that the first one I read was so poorly written, I was ready to write him off (sorry, can't remember which book it was). But I was urged by someone whose opinion I respect to give him another try and the several that I've read since have been really good.
Another author I really enjoy is Greg Iles. He's written a bunch of books centered around Natchez, Mississippi and not only are they great reads, they make me really want to visit Natchez.
Posted by: Peaches at June 13, 2010 09:10 AM (fwW9R)
Yes, yes it will. Your doom has been set and the rest of us can only stand by and watch in horrid fascination. It will not end well.
Posted by: countrydoc (formerly oLD gUY) at June 13, 2010 09:10 AM (P/D33)
Posted by: Tunafish at June 13, 2010 09:11 AM (ZcDBk)
Not so much libertarian as Rand Objectivism. Goodkind is a follower of Ayn Rand. If you look at the "wizard's rules" in the series you will find links to Objectivism.
The book series was great, even though it slowed down after about the 4th book.
As for The Legend Of The Seeker series I thought it was awful. It didn't follow the books at all. The only thing from the books that was there was the names of the main characters.
Basically it was Xena's cleavage fights for tits, justice, and the Lord Rahl way.
Posted by: Vic at June 13, 2010 09:12 AM (6taRI)
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Posted by: Faye Kinnit at June 13, 2010 09:13 AM (l1oyw)
Stark = Donald E. Westlake
Parker's so cool, and I love that bi-racial gay hitman couple, can't remember their names right now, but some of the most colorful characters ever written.
Posted by: Peaches at June 13, 2010 09:16 AM (fwW9R)
"Lindsay Faye's Dust and Shadow was the best non-Doyle Holmes story since The Seven Per-Cent Solution."
Now that I think about it, I guess so. Perhaps the better way to put it: except for The Seven Per-Cent Solution, Dust and Shadow is the best non-Doyle Holmes story I've read.
Posted by: NCC at June 13, 2010 09:19 AM (GkYyh)
Posted by: NJRob at June 13, 2010 09:20 AM (y/IxH)
And Brad Thor's last two novels (The Last Patriot, and The Apostle)! I greatly enjoyed them, and now will go back and read the earlier books in the series.
Posted by: NCC at June 13, 2010 09:21 AM (GkYyh)
Posted by: NJRob at June 13, 2010 09:21 AM (y/IxH)
I'm thinking: If someone asked me to pay two bucks a gallon for gas right now, I'd kiss them on the mouth.
Even dated, a good book, though.
Posted by: mpur in Texas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at June 13, 2010 09:23 AM (Ao1XH)
Oh I don't mind a little T&A but it seemed that that was 90% of the plot.
Posted by: Vic at June 13, 2010 09:23 AM (6taRI)
You can probably still get Road to Serfdom at a local used book store, there are copies floating around and usually they are pretty cheap.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 13, 2010 09:34 AM (PQY7w)
One of these days, youse guys need to put up a thread for those of us who enjoy the guilty pleasure of playing classic PC strategy games, like the Talonsoft Battleground series (John Tiller, you magnificent ...)
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Posted by: Richard at June 13, 2010 10:05 AM (/x2u5)
I remember with some fondness reading Ryder Stacy's Doomsday Warrior series back in the 1980s. Cheap and cheesy sci-fi/apocalyptic wasteland books set in a future America devastated by nuclear war and occupied by the Russians.
The sex and violence in those books was so thick you needed a trowel to read them. They had one of the great villains of all time, a pill popping KGB psychopath named Colonel Killov (heh) who thought he was the anti-christ.
Definitely a guilty pleasure.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 13, 2010 10:06 AM (P33XN)
Posted by: Cowboy at June 13, 2010 10:16 AM (XYcTY)
146...
Welcome. As for feeling like a jerk....you must not have been reading the comments from the regulars too closely.
We are all morons here.
Posted by: jmflynny at June 13, 2010 10:33 AM (LDvBQ)
Sorry about that.
Posted by: Apocalytic Stress Syndrome at June 13, 2010 10:34 AM (Epj2t)
Monty - The Watchmen is and was awesome! I read it in college as well, and was blown away. I have re-read it several times over the last 20 years. Several of my old college buddies will send me texts with Rorshach mumbles to this day. Hurm.
131/135/137/152 Vic & NJ Robb - no surprise you like the Goodkind books. As mentioned, he is heavily influenced by Ayn Rand and objectivism. Great series - for those unfamiliar, just look at the "Wizard's Rules" on wikipedia - seriously, before you write me off (correctly) as a SF/Fantasy geek, go read the Wizard's Rules. There is one rule for each of the first 10 books in the series: http://tinyurl.com/yll5w8 - scroll down to the Wizard's Rules subsection.
Conservative thoughts to live by...and we could only wish, to govern by.
Others:
Neal Stephenson's Anathem was a great way to blow off some time this past summer. Makes you think, but just a little.
Anything by Niven & Pournelle (when writing together only) is highly recommended. They should always write together, their individual stuff is never as good. Mote in God's Eye, Footfall, Gripping Hand, Hammerfall, and many others.
But my favorite recent timewasters were the George RR Martin series (warning - unfinished at taking a long time), and the Brandon Sanderson Mistborn trilogy.
Mistborn was really shockingly new, conceptually, in fantasy, and excellently done from start to finish. Highly recommended.
Posted by: Beta Phi at June 13, 2010 10:34 AM (fRnux)
Wilderness Empire details early American history during the French and Indian Wars period. Early colonists, the Iroquois and other tribes, British and French designs upon North America, French failure through corruption.
The Frontiersmen was set during the Revolutionary and War of 1812 periods. Simon Kenton and Daniel Boone, Tecumseh and the Shawnee, George Washington's early career.
Both books are focused away from the eastern seaboard to the western frontiers, Wilderness Empire mainly in upstate New York and The Frontiersmen mainly in Kentucky and Ohio. Both are written in a wonderful novel-like style and are thoroughly researched and footnoted.
Posted by: davidt at June 13, 2010 10:42 AM (HtIec)
Geesh, I think I've found Moronettes here from whom I was separated at birth! And the funny thing is a lot of them also read the same "guy" books that I love.
And, Monty, for the sheer psychological terror that our presidunce is putting the populace through these days, I don't consider anything a "guilty pleasure" anymore. I'm all about the hedonism, whether anyone thinks my book picks are heady enough or not.
Hearty seconds, thirds and fourths to the Harlan Coban "Myron Bolitar" series. Witty dialogue, funny as hell. Also big on Brad Thor and Vince Flynn's political thrillers with their "super hero" agents making recurrent visits.
Evanovich's Stephanie Plum series was stellar in the beginning. Losing your virginity behind a Trenton, NJ, bakery case with the local bad boy is still seared in my head (One for the Money). Even though I've read them all, I think she writes them in her sleep. And whoever thought of Marisa Tomei as the film version of Stephanie -- right on! I believe Evanovich or someone in Hollyweird said she's too old, and if the franchise took off, she'd be elderly instead of in her 30s by the series' end.
Charlaine Harris's Sookie Stackhouse series is well worth the time as well as John Sandford's Prey series. Excellent ear for the spoken word, that Sandford.
Julia Spencer-Fleming has an great series about a female cleric in a stodgy, upstate NY parish, who's a former Army helicopter pilot (Iraq War) who falls for the (married) local police chief (Harrison Ford type) while they solve crimes in their little burg. The sexual tension is reminiscent of Moonlighting in its heyday. The first one is In the Bleak Midwinter. All the titles are taken from hymns. Can't. Put. Them. Down.
Nice to see so many lurkers delurking. Come out and play. We won't bite. We may flame ya a little, but we're essentially harmless.
Monty, is there any way to get a rough count of "hits" per day that Ace gets or if any thread time is more popular than others? I was shocked the other night when Maet linked GGE's blog and he reported he got more than 900 hits in the hours between 9 and midnight! That got me to wondering about the vast number of 'rons hanging at Ace's place for the ONT - who are and aren't commenting.
Posted by: RushBabe at June 13, 2010 10:51 AM (W8m8i)
Flack is occasionally caught re:lol adult reading comics. but i brush it off, USUALLY. Where art majors and lit majors meet, you get small press/indy comics and they can be a testy bunch. To quote PvP (another great comic)...
Dean:"What's this?"
Skull:"This is Graphamaxmio, my alternative small press comic."
Dean:"What's it about?"
Skull:"It's a journal of my cognitive and spiritual journey to find the truth of art."
Dean:"Looks like you crapped on a Xerox & ran off copies."
Skull [thinking]:"Uh oh, he's on to me!"
Posted by: Hurricane567 at June 13, 2010 10:52 AM (ekagl)
Never heard of this, RushBabe, but sounds great, esp since we appear to enjoy the same sort of books. I'm making a note of it!
Posted by: Peaches at June 13, 2010 10:57 AM (fwW9R)
I wish I read more these days, but my guilty pleasure remaining in reading is pulp-era, esp. Weird Tales & the like.
My guiltiest reading pleasure is: blogs. Waste waaaay too much time following the scuttlebutt on the depressing news.
I occasionally dig into nostalgic geek stuff a another guilty pleasure - there are some archives of old text files from the old BBS days, the Jargon file, and I think even Jerry Pournelle's Chaos Manor stuff is archived online - I used to read him in Byte Magazine back in the Ooooooooold days.
Oh dear, I think I've come down with a case of Nostalgia, I probably have a pill for that.
Posted by: Merovign, Strong On His Mountain at June 13, 2010 11:08 AM (bxiXv)
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Posted by: Y-not at June 13, 2010 11:25 AM (Kn9r7)
Can I just take this opportunity to bitch about the fantasy books being shelved with the science fiction books? It's like putting the physics books in the religion section. My wife is continuously squeezing my shoes over titles like The Sword Warrior of Gy'WaHiHi, who looks suspiciously like Fabio.
Posted by: motionview at June 13, 2010 11:29 AM (f2eZu)
Posted by: Svenster at June 13, 2010 11:33 AM (hauCN)
But if I try to imagine what would make me feel guilty if I were that sort of person...
I think I've read all of the Doc Savage reprints. All the Keith Laumer I could get my hands on. All the "Stainless Steel Rat" stories. All the Desmond Bagley. Several "Stargate SG-1" novelizations. Is Oliver Lange too mainstream to be guilty about? Dick Geis's "Canned Meat" stories (he's an old SF fan writer). I have the complete run of "Astounding Stories" on microfiche.
And I like them. Choke on it, elitists.
Posted by: Bob Hawkins at June 13, 2010 11:45 AM (CdyZ5)
Clive Cussler, with his hero Dirk Pitt, is always a good read.
Posted by: TXMarko at June 13, 2010 11:48 AM (3Sd0b)
Posted by: Jose at June 13, 2010 11:58 AM (z13d1)
That being said, my literary heroes or Jack Ryan, Mitch Rapp, Richard Sharpe, and Drizzt Do Urden.
Posted by: Mark in Spokane at June 13, 2010 12:00 PM (D82MQ)
The last couple of Nelson Demille books have kind of sucked, but a lot of his earlier stuff is pretty good. Anything with John Corey as the lead character will at least keep you laughing.
Otherwise I like historical fiction with a military emphasis: Flashman, Sharpe, Aubrey/Maturin, etc. but those aren't exactly "guilty" pleasures. Sharpe is the weakest of that bunch, but still a great way to spend your time.
Posted by: CavMedic at June 13, 2010 12:03 PM (rYFmu)
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Posted by: Peaches at June 13, 2010 12:26 PM (fwW9R)
Wasn't sure if you knew it or not. My wife just bought "the Lion" for me, which is a sequel to the outstanding "the Lion's Game". I haven't started it yet though.
I'm glad to see people mention Bruce Catton. I read his one volume overview of the Civil War, and it was easily the best "brief" history of the conflict that I have ever read. I've read the excerpted volumes of Shelby Foote's work ("Stars in their Courses", about the Gettysburg campaign and "the Beleagured Citadel", about Vicksburg) and they were both excellent, but I haven't worked up the effort to tackle his huge three volume set yet.
Really good history like Foote and Catton, as well as Barbara Tuchman's "Guns of August" or "the Zimmerman Telegram" are hard for any fiction to beat. I'd add "In Cold Blood" and "Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil" to that as well, being first-rate non-fiction.
Posted by: CavMedic at June 13, 2010 12:39 PM (rYFmu)
Find a good proxy and then release your inner jerk. Don't spam or post anything that's actually illegal and you'll be fine.
I use the anonymizer's secure tunnelling service or whatever they're calling it now. I used to use Minder and ZKS Freedom but they're out of business. Free services like Tor are useless because spammers abuse them and they get banned everywhere.
Posted by: schizoid at June 13, 2010 12:43 PM (1sphz)
Posted by: kalel666 at June 13, 2010 12:50 PM (DgQHz)
Other than that, no other series is considered a "guilty" pleasure.
Posted by: soulpile at June 13, 2010 01:13 PM (afWhQ)
To quote Chuck Jones referring to him and his family "If is worth if for someone to write it, it was worthy for us to read."
Al Franken wrote some completely worthless books except maybe as doorstops or rough toilet paper.
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Posted by: Peaches at June 13, 2010 02:03 PM (fwW9R)
If you're saying that Al Franken is a shape shifter, that explains a lot of things.
Posted by: mrp at June 13, 2010 02:15 PM (HjPtV)
Posted by: NJRob at June 13, 2010 02:22 PM (y/IxH)
Did you read Ian Esslemont's contributions to the Malazan series? The first one, Night of Knives (IIRC) was a bit of drag, but Return of the Crimson Guard is absolute must read.
Posted by: Penfold at June 13, 2010 02:38 PM (EdMSl)
"I have the entire run of Lee and Child books and am unable to finish the Pendergast ones so far. I miss the heroines from the earlier books, as Pendergast annoys the heck out of me."
As Pendergast would say, try the Preston and Child ones. They're much better.
Posted by: NCC at June 13, 2010 03:04 PM (GkYyh)
This is the last of his books I will waste my time reading.
Posted by: Vic at June 13, 2010 03:08 PM (6taRI)
HP Lovecraft and his Cthulhu Mythos.
Robert Howard and the Conan series
Glen Cook and the Black Company
Asimov and the Foundation series.
Jaqueline Carey and the Kushiel series
Alan Dean Foster and the Commonwealth series.
David Weber and the Honor Harrington series.
John Ringo and his Legacy of the Aldenata series.
Burroughs and John Carter of Mars.
Thats about all I can recall off the top of my head!
Posted by: Great Cthulhu at June 13, 2010 03:10 PM (Pljlr)
Posted by: Scott at June 13, 2010 03:15 PM (xSYk1)
She has managed to invent whole solid human beings out of all that violent dead past--our past, really. I can't recommend this one enough--it will be my Christmas present for everyone this Christmas.
Except the non readers, who will get chocolate, as usual.
My favorite guilty pleasure is Robin Hobbs--don't even LOOK at the horrid covers, just get the books. Actually, get them from Amazon UK which is offering them with tasteful covers that do not mortify you when you take the book out on the train or plane.
And then there is Dorothy Dunnett--heaven knows how many hours I have spent with her fabulous hero Lymond--brilliant renaissance man, of stunning beauty, writes poetry, plays music, magnificent warrior, wily tactician, etc--plus, he has such a heart! Irresistible, really, to both the ladies and the gents. We are all loving Lymond.
Posted by: Hope Hare at June 13, 2010 03:27 PM (+OJI9)
Did you read Ian Esslemont's contributions to the Malazan series? The first one, Night of Knives (IIRC) was a bit of drag, but Return of the Crimson Guard is absolute must read.
I haven't, yet. I have the first book, Night of Knives, but I'm just waiting to get the new book. I'm looking forward to it though. Nil and Nether are two of my favorite characters and what happens to the Wickans are something I'm interested in finding out. I'm right in the middle of Reapers Gale. I want to read other things but this series is taking all of my time. I start something else after I finish one but I don't get very far because I want to see what the next book has in store and I want to see if any of the bad guys finally get their comeuppance.
Posted by: Ceroth at June 13, 2010 03:57 PM (uHARe)
I've tried to read the Dorothy Dunnet books about eight times now and I just cannot get into them.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 13, 2010 04:33 PM (PQY7w)
Man, that takes me back. I still prefer SF and some fantasy-ish SF, along with philosophy books and physics for the dumbasses who never did well in ODE. Oh, and history books by authors that aren't pushing marxist, one-world government.
The End of Time by Julian Barbour
The Flight From The Truth by Jean-François Revel
Lord of Light by Roger Zelazny
John Adams by David McCullough
Anything by Neil Gaiman (even his stuff for juveniles)
Those dragon books by that kid. Eragon or something. It's like Harry Potter with more blood and death. Total brane candy.
I pretty much like any book about those lovable, longhaired douchebags, the founders.
Posted by: K~Bob at June 13, 2010 04:41 PM (9b6FB)
We've been previewing books for our daughter for some time now, you'd be surprised how many children and young adult books spring the suicide on you at the 2/3 point.
Margaret Peterson Haddix books are actually quite good.
Now that she is older we still read what she does. Pick any Jane Austen book, and actually there is a modern reply to Pride and Prejudice named Darcy's Story that is written in the same style.
Strange stuff for a guy to be reading.
Posted by: Paul_SWOH at June 13, 2010 05:02 PM (KDUNf)
Posted by: kalel666 at June 13, 2010 04:50 PM (DgQHz)
Amen. They are a scream. The dialogue in them is nearly as good as Coban's "Myron Bolitar" series. If anyone knows of any titles in this "buddy" genre, please list them.
Because of Monty's book threads, I've gone onto the library catalogue to get info and discovered that I had missed "Vanilla Ride," the latest Hap and Leonard adventure. It's pretty gruesome, though. Shades of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre after the fact. Neat background on assassins, though.
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Posted by: ykw at June 13, 2010 09:12 PM (hwkNI)
For guilty pleasures, I read a good bit of Knights Templar / Freemason conspiracy theory stuff. Not the Davinci Code - that's for amateurs. I go back to the real crazies, Baigent and Leigh.
It's interesting to balance the crazy conspiracy theories versus more respectable historical works. There's a lot of "could be" in there - you can't really disprove the conspiracy, but noone can prove it, either. Makes for interesting reading.
Posted by: Penultimatum at June 13, 2010 10:53 PM (niydV)
Posted by: Aunt Cranky at June 13, 2010 11:32 PM (3UMrp)
Re: Sharpe. I donÂ’t have a Baker rifle but I do own a 1796 pattern heavy cavalry sword that is warranteed not to fail, a 1796 pattern light cavalry saber and a Klingenthal heavy cavalry blade dated 1811, though the hilt is probably from the 1830s. I loved Gabaldon's books so much I ended up moving to Western North Carolina. I have also been a fan of John D MacDonald for years. Some of his non McGee books are amazing time capsules of life in the 1950s and 60s while MeyerÂ’s Law is the best advice IÂ’ve ever come across.
No one so far has mentioned Dick Francis. In Hot Money he wrote one of the better opening sentences for a mystery: I intensely disliked my fatherÂ’s fifth wife, but not to the point of murder.
Posted by: Nc Mountain Girl at June 13, 2010 11:50 PM (50muB)
-Starship Troopers: oh god, how the libtards squeal at seeing that on my shelf, heh. Also, Powered Armor armed with personal tactical nuclear devices
-BattleTech: Blood of Kerensky Trilogy: Yay for the 3050 Clan invasion...I remember when that was new and OmiMechs were SERIOUS BUSINESS, instead of this new dark ages crap they're on now... This was a pretty fun read for those that like a pulp action novel with giant robots.
-Ender's Game: Sci-fi fans who haven't read it, just go do so now.
-Heritage Trilogy: Another action sci-fi pulp series. It's about a war between the USA and U.N. over archaeological digs on the Cydonian Face on Mars. Basically the U.N. decides to snag our dig on mars because we find mummified human remains there and they decide it'd cause too much rioting, etc. Also throw in Mexico and La Raza (and Aztlan) already acting up to reclaim the US southwest with U.N. support and you end up with things like the Beer Bombing Run against U.N. Troops on Mars and asteroid drops on Chicago.
-Anything by Graham Hancock. He flirts between discussing serious scientific stuff and antlantis theory/ancient alien theory. 1/2 of it's batshit insane and based on wtf logic for connections, but hilarious to a history guy like me....but the other 1/2 makes me go "hey, he's got a point"....like his idea of "hey, we know people historically set up settlements near water/on the coasts, why don't we run better simulations of past sea levels, and look for ruins along those coasts and see what we can find; even if those places are now in the middle of the desert or under water?"
Posted by: Ranba Ral at June 14, 2010 01:29 AM (l2CML)
Haven't seen anyone mention Dan Simmons. The Hyperion series gets read every year or so when I need some serious entertainment (imagine a smash-up of Canterbury Tales and the poetry of John Keats set in the far future with a super-powered killing machine called The Shrike....don't walk, run to the book store and buy it).
On the mystery side, Jeffery Deaver has been doing it for me lately (The Bone Collector book is a 100 times better than that awful film version with Denzel Washington). Great detective writing, also gets into the heads of villians in a way that eludes most writers.
Posted by: Pave Low John at June 14, 2010 03:08 AM (+7wcr)
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I'm halfway through, and it's decidedly meh.
The most interesting thing is how much of it J.K. Rowling ripped off for Harry Potter.
Posted by: schizuki at June 14, 2010 05:04 AM (Xd9fe)
I also have a weakness for Vietnam war stories, so Loon, Matterhorn, and Palace Cobra are waiting for me to finish a couple of library books I've got checked out.
Posted by: MarkD at June 14, 2010 05:38 AM (YhZfg)
Posted by: MarkD at June 14, 2010 05:41 AM (YhZfg)
If people are looking for summer reading some of the series mentioned would be good simply because the books are all out there. Just start at the beginning.
Stephanie Plum (Janet Evanovitch) got sort of repetitive but start with book one and a person has at least 6 or 8 novels to go before burn-out. Eric Flint and 1632 (if I have that right) is great for at least 3 or 4. Or at the very least, the first one is fabulous. If you've never read Lois Bujold's Miles Vorkosigan series it's possible to get them all and even if you can't get them all they read very well out of order. If you've never read Georgette Heyer, even if you're a guy, you might want to do that. Too many authors I know cite her as a significant influence... and that includes a whole lot of SF authors, not just romance authors. Jim Butcher and Dresden Files! Honestly I liked the TV show better but the books are a whole lot of fun, but reading in order is probably a good plan.
Newer releases... I want to plug Darkship Thieves by Sarah Hoyt, not just because she sent me an autographed copy (brag!) but because it's sort of an homage to Heinlein and also includes a fascinating version of what a truly libertarian society might look like (and why it ended up that way.) And I always want to plug the Eric Flint/ Ryk Spoor collaboration of _Boundary_ and _Threshold_ even though I haven't read the newly released Threshold yet. Boundary is a great, fun, adventure, with an utterly brilliant ending for those of us of the moron/war-mongering persuasion.
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