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December 13, 2010

Support For ObamaCare At New Low, 43%
— Ace

The lawÂ’s never been popular, with support peaking at just 48 percent in November 2009. Today itÂ’s slipped to 43 percent, numerically its lowest in ABC/Post polling. (It was about the same, 44 percent, a year ago.) Fifty-two percent are opposed, and that 9-point gap in favor of opposition is its largest on record since the latest debate over health care reform began in earnest in summer 2009.
More also continue to Â“stronglyÂ” oppose the law than to strongly support it, 37 percent to 22 percent.

This point is now well past its expiration date, but I wanted to note this for a while, so I'll do it now.

Liberals and the media (but I repeat myself) used to console themselves that many elements of ObamaCare polled well. Covering kids under 26? That has 58% support! No pre-existing condition exclusion? 62% support! The public option? 65% support! (I'm making up these numbers but, ballpark.)

So, they reasoned, the bill as a whole must be/should be popular, if only it were explained properly. They just ignored the polls showing a majority opposed to the bill in its entirety as due to an ill-informed public.

They trusted that when the public finally got the find out what was in the bill -- as Nancy Pelosi famously noted she couldn't wait to do herself -- they'd come on board.

But that sort of thinking was flawed from the start because the poll questions relied on by liberals were all benefits of the bill -- without mention of the necessary costs of the individual mandate, rationed health care, increased premiums, etc.

I could get similar poll results if I ask if people are in favor of personally owing a hooker's-lipstick-red Ferrari. I'd get 71% majorities in favor of that idea. Including 63% majorities in favor of owning a car that could do 0-to-60 in 5.2 seconds and 72% majorities in favor of owning a car that increases your odds of getting handjobs from strangers by 25%.

So -- ergo, 71% of the public must either own a Ferrari or be making immediate plans to purchase one, right?

No, of course not. None of my poll questions asked if the respondents were so enamored of those things that they'd be willing to pay $80,000 for the car. I asked only if people would like those things; I didn't bother asking if they would also like paying for those things.

If I asked about cost, I'd get numbers closer to the actual percentage of the public owning a Ferarri. And that's the only sensible way to ask the question. Simply asking people if they want a hot red Italian sportscar is utterly pointless. The only measure that matters is how many people want to trade one thing (a pile of money) for that other thing.

This is exactly what the liberals and media did, both attempting to sway public opinion via the bandwagon effect, and also deceiving themselves that an unpopular bill was really popular in its particulars.

They asked if people were generally in favor of 8-cylinder hot rods. They found, to no one's great surprise, that as a general matter, sure, the public was in favor of such things. They didn't bother to ask if they were willing to pay the costs involved before imposing those costs, by fiat, on the entire country.

Whoops, Meant To Say... One poll question did in fact ask about costs -- namely, the big question on ObamaCare as a whole, the one that implicitly asked about both the gimmes of ObamaCare as well as the take-ies. The public kept expressing its disapproval of ObamaCare when costs were included, every time it was questioned about it, and the liberals/media enablers kept ignoring them, or accusing them of being stupid, racist, or ill-informed.

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Posted by: Ben at December 13, 2010 01:23 PM (wuv1c)

2 My God, it's full of link.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 13, 2010 01:24 PM (fLHQe)

3 This post has me seeing red!

Posted by: Andy at December 13, 2010 01:24 PM (5Rurq)

4 Wait. ObamaCare is going to give us hot rods?

Posted by: A Top Evelyn Wood Speedreading Graduate at December 13, 2010 01:25 PM (QKKT0)

5 RED!

Posted by: rickinstl at December 13, 2010 01:25 PM (0AEWQ)

6 72% majorities in favor of owning a car that increases your odds of getting handjobs from strangers by 25%.

Oh, if only this were one of the provisions in Obamacare. Can it fit under "therapy"?

Posted by: AmishDude at December 13, 2010 01:25 PM (T0NGe)

7 Always know when it's an Ace post!

Posted by: lorien1973 at December 13, 2010 01:25 PM (IhQuA)

8 Um....unprecedented?

Posted by: billygoat at December 13, 2010 01:26 PM (5qJM5)

9 been awhile since the last time Ace has done this. Also the triple posting from yesterday just means that the site is somewhat coming back into form

Posted by: Ricky Coogin at December 13, 2010 01:26 PM (Ig1Wo)

10 One of the paragraphs is an Easter egg.

Posted by: JonathanEllis at December 13, 2010 01:27 PM (BdzEV)

11 All that Red and Link...Not again!?

Posted by: incontinent gerbil at December 13, 2010 01:27 PM (SAeJo)

12 I could get similar poll results if I ask if people are in favor of personally owing a hooker's-lipstick-red Ferrari. post.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 13, 2010 01:28 PM (kaalw)

13 We have to Pass the Bill so the people can learn to hate the Bill!

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at December 13, 2010 01:28 PM (SAeJo)

14 The problem with that anology is that after you pay the $80,000 you actually do have a Ferrari.

Posted by: eleven at December 13, 2010 01:28 PM (7DB+a)

Speaking of things that are lipstick red....

Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 13, 2010 01:29 PM (fLHQe)

16 Heh, apparently FF and IE format multi-paragraph links differently.

Posted by: JonathanEllis at December 13, 2010 01:29 PM (BdzEV)

17 Damnit 12.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 13, 2010 01:29 PM (fLHQe)

18 You said Ferrari...I don't want it if it's a Fiat.

Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2010 01:29 PM (SAeJo)

19 I'm just back after being gone all morning/afternoon, could someone point me to a good lay explanation of why the severability issue doesn't matter? I read (at Volokh) that the White House conceded (last week, I think) that it was not severable, but now I'm reading that it is. And, I'm reading that "it doesn't matter" because SCOTUS will be reviewing this.

What's the scoop?

Is there a back-door method to shove Obamacare down our throats or not?

Posted by: Y-not at December 13, 2010 01:29 PM (IDL9N)

20 ObamaCare is going to give us hot rods?

No, just a glossy framed poster of one, but it'll still cost $250,000 for the poster.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at December 13, 2010 01:30 PM (K0Yc4)

21 Free Ferrari? Where do I sign up?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 13, 2010 01:30 PM (yQWNf)

22 How's Gabe doin' with his "may you live in interesting times" week? Is he doing "hope" or "change" this afternoon?

Posted by: cthulhu at December 13, 2010 01:30 PM (kaalw)

23 FYI, $80K would buy a pretty cheap Ferrari.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 13, 2010 01:30 PM (T0NGe)

24 23 FYI, $80K would buy a pretty cheap Ferrari.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 13, 2010 05:30 PM (T0NGe)

That's the cost used.......after the wife found out.

Posted by: cthulhu at December 13, 2010 01:31 PM (kaalw)

25 Who painted my Fiat black?

Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2010 01:31 PM (SAeJo)

FYI, $80K would buy a pretty cheap Ferrari.

What it's going to get us is a purple Gremlin.

Posted by: eleven at December 13, 2010 01:32 PM (7DB+a)

27 I could place an "order" with some guys down in Miami and probably get one of those Ferrari's for $5,000 cash if I'm not too fussy about titles and shit like that.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at December 13, 2010 01:33 PM (K0Yc4)

28 Actually an 80,000 dollar Ferrari is a good analogy. Obamacare was sold like it was a real ferrari but instead it's an $80,000 kit car with a GM motor.

Posted by: Rocks at December 13, 2010 01:33 PM (D5Tn1)

29
Speaking of Ferraris...

Do you think HIGGINS was ROBIN MASTERS?

Posted by: Soothsayerwing Plover at December 13, 2010 01:33 PM (uFokq)

30 $80K for a Ferrari? Is it 1989 again?

Posted by: Waterhouse at December 13, 2010 01:33 PM (KClEE)

$80K would buy a pretty cheap Ferrari.

These days it might buy a Dino.

Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2010 01:33 PM (SAeJo)

32 ObamaCare is a Bricklin!

Posted by: Purple Avenger at December 13, 2010 01:34 PM (K0Yc4)

$80K for a Ferrari? Is it 1989 again?

This!

Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2010 01:34 PM (SAeJo)

Is it a "special needs" Ferrari?

http://tinyurl.com/3767uvh

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 13, 2010 01:36 PM (QMtmy)

35 Hey Obama the Insurance Company cancelled my small group plan. Hey can I put my employees on your plan?

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 13, 2010 01:36 PM (0GFWk)

a back-door method to shove Obamacare down our throats?

You mean - 'up our ass'?

Posted by: garrett at December 13, 2010 01:36 PM (SAeJo)

37 I could place an "order" with some guys down in Miami and probably get one of those Ferrari's for $5,000 cash if I'm not too fussy about titles and shit like that.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at December 13, 2010 05:33 PM

They make wonderful cleaning products now that can remove blood, and even brain matter off of leather seats and interior carpets!

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 13, 2010 01:37 PM (yQWNf)

Hey Obama the Insurance Company cancelled my small group plan. Hey can I put my employees on your plan?

If you like your plan, you can keep it.

Posted by: Barack H Obama at December 13, 2010 01:37 PM (SAeJo)

39 IMO, severability as determined by the supremes doesn't matter at all. The whole corrupt bargain of this POS is predicated on guaranteeing participation in health insurance payment plans for all by trading coverage of preexisting conditions (huge cost) for mandatory participation (huge revenues).

Without mandatory participation in the scheme, the rest of this thing will get repealed quicker than you can say "grandma's premiums quadrupled."

Posted by: Andy at December 13, 2010 01:37 PM (5Rurq)

40 They asked if people were generally in favor of 8-cylinder hot rods. They found, to no one's great surprise, that as a general matter, sure, the public was in favor of such things. They didn't bother to ask if they were willing to pay the costs involved before imposing those costs, by fiat, on the entire country. Posted by: Ace at 05:21 PM OK Ace, wait a minute, I'm confused... You're saying we all want a Ferrari but are pissed we'll get a Fiat?

Posted by: CoolCzech at December 13, 2010 01:37 PM (tJjm/)

I wun.

Go Orunj!

Posted by: Barack H Obama at December 13, 2010 01:38 PM (SAeJo)

42 OK, I sort of answered my own question.

Le.gal In.sur.rec.tion has a nice, succinct explanation.

The post by Worthington at Patterico is a little scary and/or tinfoil hat, I can't tell which.

Posted by: Y-not at December 13, 2010 01:39 PM (IDL9N)

43 #41
Without mandatory participation in the scheme, the rest of this thing will get repealed quicker than you can say "grandma's premiums quadrupled."

Or it'll facilitate the call for full nationalization of health-care, since most health-care insurance companies will be bankrupted anyway by all the other Obamacare requirements.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 13, 2010 01:39 PM (9hSKh)

43%!

The New B Plus!

Posted by: Barky O at December 13, 2010 01:39 PM (fLHQe)

45 >>$80K for a Ferrari? Is it 1989 again? Must be. Only goes 0 to 60 in 5.2 seconds. Anyway, I'm holding out for a Reince Priebus, better gas mileage.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2010 01:41 PM (TMB3S)

a car that increases your odds of getting handjobs from strangers by 25%.

More like 2000%.

Posted by: Beagle at December 13, 2010 01:41 PM (sOtz/)

47 @46
Or it'll facilitate the call for full nationalization of health-care

Which I guess means we WILL ALL BE GETTING FLU SHOTS! ELEVENTY1!!!1

Posted by: Y-not can't resist at December 13, 2010 01:41 PM (IDL9N)

48 So, Obama's buying me a sports car now? Will the pandering never cease?

Posted by: toby928™ at December 13, 2010 01:42 PM (S5YRY)

49 No surprise,however my support for O'bama or O'bama care has never hovered above 0%.

Posted by: ziptie at December 13, 2010 01:42 PM (0135J)

More like 2000%.

Tried it. I find Peanut Butter yields the best results.

Posted by: Dirty L.A. Hobo at December 13, 2010 01:42 PM (SAeJo)

51 26

FYI, $80K would buy a pretty cheap Ferrari.

What it's going to get us is a purple Gremlin.

Posted by: eleven at December 13, 2010 05:32 PM (7DB+a)

But that purple Gremlin will have a lot of cool bolted on plastic stuff!!!...we'll even thrown in an Earl Schieb Ferrari Red paint job!!!!11!!eleventy!!

Posted by: Empty Gubmint Suit at December 13, 2010 01:43 PM (5qJM5)

52 51 So, Obama's buying me a sports car now? Will the pandering never cease?

Posted by: toby928Â™ at December 13, 2010 05:42 PM (S5YRY)

Well...we, uhhhh, tried bolting horns to horses heads in order make unicorns for you ummmmm, Morons; but that didn't work. CARS IT SHALL BE!

Posted by: TEH WON at December 13, 2010 01:45 PM (5qJM5)

53 Brett Favre needs Obamacare, stat! Inactive. Pansy.

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 13, 2010 01:48 PM (RWtqz)

54 Brett Favre needs Obamacare, stat! Inactive. Pansy.

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 13, 2010 05:48 PM

So the Viqueens actually have a shot at making it competitive tonight?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 13, 2010 01:49 PM (yQWNf)

55 What Ace isn't telling you is that it's not just hand jobs a hot car will get you, IYKWIMAITYD.

Posted by: Emergency Backup President Bill Clinton at December 13, 2010 01:52 PM (p05LM)

56 if Tynes can kick 14 or more field goals (with more than a few from 45-50 yds)...I'll have this thing wrapped up and just maybe slip into the playoffs!

Posted by: hornyfemaledolphins at December 13, 2010 01:52 PM (SAeJo)

57 Posted by: Emergency Backup President Bill Clinton

Why am I having a flash of the Auto-Pilot scene from Airplane?

Posted by: toby928™ at December 13, 2010 01:53 PM (S5YRY)

58 59 Kratos, I wasn't trying to be pedantic. I just like framing the left's desires as "national socialized ..." as often as possible.

No need to apologize,

. When discussing the Left's schemes, it is essential to properly define terms.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 13, 2010 01:54 PM (9hSKh)

No, I'm not Higgins. I still find it hard to believe that Sir Robin has continued allowing Thomas the use of his Ferrari after all these years, given his boorish behavior toward me and The Lads.

Sir Robin remains devoted to his secretive ways.

Posted by: Robin Masters at December 13, 2010 01:55 PM (zAZNI)

60 OT - The world is about to end!

Vikings list Brett Favre as inactive for Monday's game; NFL record 297 consecutive games played will end - ESPN

Chaos is here. It is here!

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 13, 2010 01:56 PM (9hSKh)

61 I could never understand this so-called popularity of keeping 26 year-old "children" on your policy. Go out and get a job that offers insurance or one that pays well enough that you can afford to pay for it yourself. Besides, I'm sure it's not exactly free to keep them on your own policy.

Posted by: PoconoJoe at December 13, 2010 01:57 PM (snNFU)

62 stupid, racist, or ill-informed.

Wow...am I that transparent?

Posted by: Sponge © at December 13, 2010 01:57 PM (UK9cE)

63 Jim Mora called Favre healing in time to play ever again a "mute" point.

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 13, 2010 01:59 PM (RWtqz)

64 The poll I remember was that 85% of the people had healthcare and were satisfied with it as it was.

What we are doing is screwing 85% of the people so the bums and the unions will make out, as well as creating another huge federal union workforce.

Posted by: Vic at December 13, 2010 01:59 PM (e4sSD)

65 does that mean there are 2 MNF games on tonight?

Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 13, 2010 02:02 PM (pLTLS)

66 You could get an F355 for $80k. I'd want mine in Hyperion Blue instead of red. Though, admittedly, it's a nice red.

Has anybody done the full math on Obamacare, though? Are we really getting that for less than $80k a pop? I'd bet it's more.

Posted by: Merovign, Strong on His Mountain at December 13, 2010 02:02 PM (bxiXv)

67 In case of emergency, break glass. Bitches!

Posted by: B to the J Clinton Holla at December 13, 2010 02:02 PM (yQWNf)

68 Of course there are no *new* Ferraris for $80k. That's just silly.

Do they make one of those pedal cars like BMW does for the kiddies? You might get one of those for less than $80k.

Posted by: Merovign, Strong on His Mountain at December 13, 2010 02:03 PM (bxiXv)

69 45 Grandma had it coming. A Ferrari can get Grandma to give you a handjob?

Posted by: CoolCzech at December 13, 2010 02:04 PM (tJjm/)

70 Giveaways? I didn't see any in my benefits booklet I received last Friday. However, my premiums went up 30%, and my co-pays doubled.

Posted by: gregaracha at December 13, 2010 02:04 PM (1MdBO)

71 73does that mean there are 2 MNF games on tonight?

Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 13, 2010 06:02 PM (pLTLS)

No. The game will only be on the FOX stations in NY and MN.

Posted by: PoconoJoe at December 13, 2010 02:06 PM (snNFU)

72 and for directv customers! Anyway, imagine if the RNC had been competent in fighting obamacare, president Clinton would really be in over his head. The whole pass it to know what's in soundbite should be the new vote for it before vote against it bite. or the waivers...or the screwy GAO tricks...

Posted by: joeindc44 at December 13, 2010 02:08 PM (QxSug)

The game will only be on the FOX stations in NY

Nice! I get that.

Posted by: hornyfemaledolphins at December 13, 2010 02:08 PM (SAeJo)

74 Steele IS running to stay RNC chairman, per Fox News.

Posted by: CoolCzech at December 13, 2010 02:09 PM (tJjm/)

75 So any hot 'ettes wanna exchange phone numbers. I'm not really doin' anything tonight, and would love to text my fans.

Posted by: Brett Favre at December 13, 2010 02:09 PM (2qK+m)

76 I'm no fan of the Browns but this is awesome!

Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 13, 2010 02:11 PM (pLTLS)

77 I went on a death rant today. Blogged this shit twice. At least one Federal judge hasn't been co-opted. Probably get asked to resign tonite. I am so fucking tired of hearing idiots compare Obamacare to auto insurance. ARGGHHHH

Posted by: Frankenstein Government at December 13, 2010 02:12 PM (GOG1H)

78 O/T: Rahm Emmanuel filed a partial residency tax return in Illinois for 2009, then very recently amended it to indicate he was a full-time resident.

heh

Posted by: Y-not at December 13, 2010 02:23 PM (IDL9N)

Today itÂ’s slipped to 43 percent, numerically its lowest in ABC/Post polling.

Which is about 33% in real numbers.

Posted by: Truman North at December 13, 2010 02:34 PM (HLGCA)

It could never pass Congress again.

Don't be too sure...

Posted by: Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security at December 13, 2010 02:39 PM (HLGCA)

81 OT, but if Boehner cries just one more time I'm afraid I'll throw my remote right thry the screen. When you've got Lesley Stahl asking, "What set you off NOW," it's time for a check ip from the neck up. Honestly, why doesn't his wife tell him to stop crying and man up?

Posted by: CoolCzech at December 13, 2010 02:39 PM (tJjm/)

82 Darn tiny keyboard...

Posted by: CoolCzech at December 13, 2010 02:41 PM (tJjm/)

83 Ace I have to wholeheartedly disagree with you on this. Liberals were not "tricking" themselves and looking at poll numbers that supported their positions, they simply didn't fucking care. They were going to do this regardless of what anyone thought, in their minds they had the votes, thus they could do what they wanted. They passed a hugely unpopular bill, in the middle of the night, without even reading it, on a straight party line vote, using bribes. Do you really think they fucking cared about any poll numbers? No, they said "losing an election will be worth it if we get single payer, because then we will win forever sometime in the future when government will be able to say "oh you want to cut taxes not only will we then cut police and firemen, we will cut your fucking healthcare", thus making us all serfs and fundamentally rearranging the role of government in America.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at December 13, 2010 02:42 PM (h2+O0)

84 OT, but if Boehner cries just one more time I'm afraid I'll throw my remote right thry the screen. When you've got Lesley Stahl asking, "What set you off NOW," it's time for a check ip from the neck up. Honestly, why doesn't his wife tell him to stop crying and man up?

Posted by: CoolCzech at December 13, 2010 06:39 PM (tJjm/)

Really, this guy is getting to be embarrassing. Just stop it already.

Posted by: robtr at December 13, 2010 02:44 PM (hVDig)

85 84 I'm no fan of the Browns but this is awesome!

Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 13, 2010 06:11 PM (pLTLS)

Lacey -- there are some crazy-ass vehicles in the Muni-Lot on gameday; that is but one of them! How's your Holy Trinity (CP, TO & Ocho-retard) doin' this year, btw?

Posted by: billygoat at December 13, 2010 02:51 PM (5qJM5)

86 $80,000? Using today's monopoly money? Hmm. Might not be such a bad deal. What else can I do with it... use it as kindling?

Posted by: I Am Obama's Inflated Stash at December 13, 2010 02:53 PM (swuwV)

87 93 OT, but if Boehner cries just one more time I'm afraid I'll throw my remote right thry the screen. When you've got Lesley Stahl asking, "What set you off NOW," it's time for a check ip from the neck up. Honestly, why doesn't his wife tell him to stop crying and man up?

Posted by: CoolCzech at December 13, 2010 06:39 PM (tJjm/)

C'mon, man -- my thong was in my man-crack; it brought a tear to my eye!

Posted by: BONER! at December 13, 2010 02:53 PM (5qJM5)

88 93,97 well who watches 60 minutes? but yeah agree. Men crying screams "alcoholic or something like that" to me. I'll excuse Beck (but not listen to him) since he reports his history but Boehner needs to get a British type stiff upper lip and soon.

Posted by: PaleRider at December 13, 2010 02:54 PM (dkExz)

89 35

Is it a "special needs" Ferrari?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 13, 2010 05:36 PM (QMtmy)

Clarkson should have said "Capt. Slow's Ferrari looks retarded, with a simpleton grin." If you're going to get the crap from the PC crowd, better make it worthwhile.

Posted by: Unclefacts, Confuse A Cat, Ltd. at December 13, 2010 02:54 PM (eCAn3)

90 I so want to throw a box of tissues at Boehner and call him a jackwagon, and tell him to suck it up you crybaby.

Posted by: Unclefacts, Confuse A Cat, Ltd. at December 13, 2010 02:57 PM (eCAn3)

91 We know you mean well ... but please stop helping.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at December 13, 2010 06:54 PM (G/MYk)

The Krautman is the original definition of a neocon; heavy on the "neo" part since he was in the Carter/Mondale camp.

He doesn't have a clue as to what makes a real conservative.

Posted by: Vic at December 13, 2010 02:58 PM (e4sSD)

92 Y-not: "What's the scoop?"

The scoop is that there is no spoon severability. Then you'll see, that it is not the law that bends, it is only yourself.

Posted by: Justice Spoon Boy at December 13, 2010 03:00 PM (swuwV)

The liberals and the media (I'm doing it, too) projected the opposite when it came to invading Iraq. "Do you like Saddam Hussein?" No. "Would the world be safer if Iraq were a constitutional democracy?" Most likely. "Are you willing to accept seeing flag-draped coffins every night on the news while you're eating your dinner?" No! Of course not!

But that's what the media do; they make stuff up, and then they accept their imaginings as reality. They start with the air-tight premise that their programs are so important that people eat dinner while watching them, and they go from there. "Would you rather have the government pay for people's prescription medicines or force them to eat cat food for dinner every night?" The first one! and Thank you, President Obama.

Posted by: FireHorse at December 13, 2010 03:02 PM (sWynj)

94 27 I could place an "order" with some guys down in Miami If I knew some guys at the auction on Southern Blvd who spoke Russian. That's what I meant to say.

Posted by: Noted Ace of Spades staff psychologist Country Joe and the Fish at December 13, 2010 03:03 PM (le5qc)

95 Kraut is just expressing the usual elite view that in order for Republicans to be consistent, they must unilaterally disarm.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 13, 2010 03:06 PM (+x+o6)

96 And Bam is still doing it. The shuffle dance. When asked about whether he supports states being able to make up their OWN minds about health insurance, he falls back on the mantra:

Only if they disallow preexisting conditions

Only if they disallow discontinuation of coverage

Only if they . . . oh shit I forgot the rest.

He's gonna keep selling the free Ferarri.

Posted by: Boris Yeltsin at December 13, 2010 03:12 PM (4sQwu)

97 27 I could place an "order" with some guys down in Miami

If I knew some guys at the auction on Southern Blvd who spoke Russian. That's what I meant to say.

I can get it cheaper if you're not worried about a few scrapes.

Posted by: Nico Bellic at December 13, 2010 03:14 PM (Ew1k4)

98
But Intrade has support for Obamacare up by 20%!!!!!!

_{Dude, it's been slim pickings around here lately.....}

Posted by: In before the troll at December 13, 2010 03:14 PM (6kyQC)

99 I have to say that I've heard that idea that conservatives are generally against judges ruling laws un-Constitutional, as if the particulars were meaningless. I don't know who started that, but I think it was just a law school joke that somehow got out of containment.

I hear Gabe started it.

Posted by: Troublemaker from earlier in the day at December 13, 2010 03:16 PM (Ew1k4)

100
holy shit, ESPN, shut the fuck up, already

Posted by: lolsoothsayer at December 13, 2010 03:16 PM (Sl76L)

101
Tom Jackson is a shithead.

Posted by: lolsoothsayer at December 13, 2010 03:17 PM (fFMjt)

102

Ace, I thought Herr only used the "ergo" stuff.

Great post baby.

Posted by: journolist at December 13, 2010 03:19 PM (LwLqV)

103

@93: "OT, but if Boehner cries just one more time I'm afraid I'll throw my remote right thry the screen. When you've got Lesley Stahl asking, "What set you off NOW," it's time for a check ip from the neck up. Honestly, why doesn't his wife tell him to stop crying and man up?"

Shut up you hear...*hic*....heartlessh bashtard. Izh jusht shpilled my *sway* martini. Thash all.

*grips podium tightly*

Oh man....Ish sho shad. Poor little martini never hadda chansh. Sho tragic. Shuch a losh.

*90 proof tear flows down cheek*

Top shelf boozhe, too. None of that Kamchatka shit.

*sniffle*

Posted by: John *hic* Boehner at December 13, 2010 03:20 PM (xy9wk)

104 What's ESPN on about?

Posted by: Methos at December 13, 2010 03:20 PM (Ew1k4)

105

Troublemakerfromearlier in the day, if that is your real name, (:])

I just about spit up my Miller High Life reading yours upthread.

We got some talent on this her bloggy.

OK, now can I go back to listening to Shalamar in peace.

Posted by: journolist at December 13, 2010 03:21 PM (LwLqV)

106 Obama better not even THINK about closing Woodward Ave -- it's about all we have left.

Posted by: Detroit! at December 13, 2010 03:26 PM (sM/RM)

107 How can ferrari and fiat be mentioned in the same post?

Posted by: Brad at December 13, 2010 03:32 PM (r4//R)

108 Brad: "How can ferrari and fiat be mentioned in the same post?"

Those are just misspellings. They all meant the same thing.

Posted by: Judge William Carey, AK at December 13, 2010 03:42 PM (swuwV)

109 Rahm Emmanuel is Hebrew for Foreskin.

Posted by: SurferDoc at December 13, 2010 03:51 PM (o3bYL)

110 "Like President Clinton needed this now." It probably shouldn't, but that made me giggle...

Posted by: Rodney C. Johson at December 13, 2010 04:01 PM (G/Eku)

111 What you're saying is 43% of those polled believe it is okay to take my pro-life money from me by force if necessary and pay for some street tramp to have a new life MURDERED.

Taxation without representation?

How about FRAUD, WASTE and ABUSE?

We have a saying here in Texas, perhaps you've heard it.

"Come and take it"
How did that turn out for the federales?

Posted by: Blacksmith8 at December 14, 2010 02:05 AM (1eQjo)

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