March 13, 2010
— Gabriel Malor Perfidy! Lies and scum and bad faith and treachery and deceit! The false, tricksy, faithless KNAVES! DEMOCRATS!
Oh, whatever. Like anybody is surprised at another broken promise from Democrats in Congress. Hell, no one is surprised at the kid glove treatment that CNN is putting on it either:
House Democrats appear to be softening their pledge to allow the public 72 hours to review the health care reform package online before a House vote. "We will certainly give as much notice as possible, but I'm not going to say that 72 hours is going to be the litmus test," said Majority Leader Steny Hoyer on Friday."I'm a little bit taken aback that now that 72-hour rule has been completely cast aside, since nobody in the House has seen what's in the reconciliation bill," said Rep. Eric Cantor, R-Virginia. Speaker Nancy Pelosi promised earlier this year Democrats would make the final health care bill public at least three days before voting.
Ramming it through. No time to waste. Gosh, what if people actually knew what Congress was doing?
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Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at March 13, 2010 04:31 PM (sZ+lP)
Pledges? We don't have to honor no stinking pledges.
Posted by: Congress at March 13, 2010 04:31 PM (gLSaO)
Posted by: ms. docweasel at March 13, 2010 04:37 PM (kgwdA)
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at March 13, 2010 04:39 PM (3av9F)
Democrat lies, french fry fries, sad folk sighs, tanner dyes... what's the surprise..?
Nor'Easter here in NYC, and you expect me to go "Oh my I can't believe it!" when the Dems once again decide to act like modern liberal fascists..?
Posted by: Ira at March 13, 2010 04:47 PM (8CgUK)
High Caliber Gunshow next weekend at the George R. Brown in Houston. Me and a buddy (and his pop) are going, any near-by morons, lets git 'r done.
Posted by: Dang Straights at March 13, 2010 04:49 PM (3hvSZ)
Posted by: eman at March 13, 2010 04:49 PM (xJwcz)
Posted by: underdown at March 13, 2010 04:49 PM (9qKPX)
When do we get just one night off from their lies and malfeasance?
Just one, please! Is that so much to ask for?
Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 13, 2010 04:50 PM (boGrZ)
Posted by: mystry at March 13, 2010 04:50 PM (kmgIE)
Posted by: dagny at March 13, 2010 04:52 PM (z4sah)
I magically owe $500 in taxes this year. I'm going to be filing extensions for as long as I can so Wee Wee doesn't get any $$$ out of me.
Posted by: Dang Straights at March 13, 2010 04:52 PM (3hvSZ)
Posted by: nickless at March 13, 2010 04:53 PM (MMC8r)
So if the House "deems" the Senate bill to "be passed" we all know that it is trickery - they never voted on the bill before them and so the President's signature means nothing. The problem of course is no one will do anything about it and a lawsuit, though certain, will take years.
But what if a Republican lead congress in 2011 simply brings the Senate bill up for a vote? After all, it was never voted on. And then they proceed to vote it down. The President's signature is in error.
Posted by: Philip at March 13, 2010 04:54 PM (L31/D)
The 12th of never. Eternal struggle and all that, comrade.
Just one, please! Is that so much to ask for?
Yes. Better start drinking.
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at March 13, 2010 04:54 PM (otlXg)
This one's going to be long and drawn-out, I'm afraid.
At least in the end, there will be only chaos.
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at March 13, 2010 04:56 PM (otlXg)
Posted by: Unclefacts, Meteor Summoner At Large at March 13, 2010 04:56 PM (erIg9)
Posted by: mystry at March 13, 2010 04:56 PM (kmgIE)
This one's going to be long and drawn-out, I'm afraid.
Yeah, this is more like being thrown in the well.
Posted by: Dang Straights at March 13, 2010 04:56 PM (3hvSZ)
So if the House "deems" the Senate bill to "be passed" we all know that it is trickery - they never voted on the bill before them and so the President's signature means nothing. The problem of course is no one will do anything about it and a lawsuit, though certain, will take years.
I'm not so sure about it taking years for a lawsuit to be filed (or did you mean something else?), because there's several fired up and ready to be filed. The problem will be, as Vic always points out, is that somebody with "standing" will have to file the lawsuit. I'm not a legal beagle, so I dunno what that entails.
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at March 13, 2010 04:58 PM (otlXg)
Posted by: dagny at March 13, 2010 04:58 PM (CHYrp)
I magically owe $500 in taxes this year. I'm going to be filing extensions for as long as I can so Wee Wee doesn't get any $$$ out of me.
Posted by: Dang Straights at March 13, 2010 08:52 PM (3hvSZ)
Ah-ah-ahhhhh! You can file an extension on your return but you still owe the taxes immediately!
Posted by: Some Asshole Democrat at March 13, 2010 05:00 PM (3av9F)
At least in the end, there will be only chaos Lifetime Movie Network.
Because after watching a movie there, I usually feel better about my own life.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 13, 2010 05:01 PM (boGrZ)
My Patriot group celebrated its one-year anniversary today and we had a helluva speaker from Northern VA who gave us a little insight into how these loons actually think. We had our biggest turnout yet, with standing room only. We concluded by arranging carpools to DC on Tuesday for the Health Care 2.0 rally.
The congress critter staffers are said to be pi$$ed and look daggers at anyone who enters the offices (from die-hard patriots who "visited" them on Monday). Looks like they're going to have a really bad day on Tuesday.
Posted by: RushBabe at March 13, 2010 05:02 PM (LKkE8)
Posted by: Jane D'oh, Fright Winger Extraordinaire at March 13, 2010 05:03 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at March 13, 2010 08:58 PM (otlXg)
The taxes on this start immediately, so every American who pays taxes next April will have standing to bring suit. Our only hope may be that a suit goes through the legal system and gets to SCOTUS before the provisions of ObamaCare take effect.
Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at March 13, 2010 05:03 PM (3av9F)
Posted by: looking closely at March 13, 2010 05:04 PM (KNy97)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 13, 2010 05:04 PM (9Lm5R)
Otherwise, we might as well lie down and let the steamroller of totalitarianism crush us.
Posted by: Ray-man at March 13, 2010 05:04 PM (m9e+y)
Posted by: mystry at March 13, 2010 05:05 PM (kmgIE)
Posted by: eman the Moderate at March 13, 2010 05:06 PM (xJwcz)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 13, 2010 05:06 PM (y+s7m)
Posted by: looking closely at March 13, 2010 05:07 PM (KNy97)
I refuse to stay silent or be politically correct or not state the truth wherever the opportunity arises.
I never thought I would be witnessing the takedown of America from within while all the EFFIN COWARDS ON THE HILL sat by with their bribes up their asses.
Posted by: Kool Aid Kollider at March 13, 2010 05:07 PM (PI/0J)
And so, dear morons/ettes, I bid you adieu. (Don't forget your effin' clocks. I'm a control freak that way.)
Posted by: Jane D'oh, Fright Winger Extraordinaire at March 13, 2010 05:08 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 13, 2010 05:09 PM (9Lm5R)
Why do we even let them in the Capitol to vote on this?
Posted by: Fright Wing Conspiricist at March 13, 2010 05:10 PM (uqYMv)
Posted by: ginaswo/MiM at March 13, 2010 05:11 PM (r2li8)
Posted by: The big O at March 13, 2010 05:11 PM (fCLso)
Posted by: dagny at March 13, 2010 05:12 PM (LtB4A)
How in God's name did we get to a place where our Congress is actually considering amending the rules which deem a bill passed despite the fact it was in fact, not passed?
Rules are not fucking bills. As such, the vote on a rule can't be treated as a vote on a bill.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 13, 2010 05:14 PM (boGrZ)
Very dangerous to ever believe a demoncrap, they lie better than the devil himself.
Usually with a smile on their face, an arm around your shoulder and a hand in your wallet.
Posted by: ErikW at March 13, 2010 05:15 PM (gqWc1)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at March 13, 2010 05:15 PM (ooI/T)
It's like the old line, "How can you tell if a politician is lying? His lips are moving."
Only problem is that the MSM is providing cover and this is <B>REALLY</B> going to hurt the chicken.
Posted by: Gmac at March 13, 2010 05:16 PM (SgCmu)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at March 13, 2010 05:18 PM (ooI/T)
Love that.
/I'm going through there tomorrow.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at March 13, 2010 05:18 PM (sZ+lP)
They have the 52% majority and they certainly don't give a shit what the rest of us think, outside of classifying us all as terrorists via DHS.
If Congress were to shut off CSPAN next Monday morning, and started issuing weekly edicts to us little people via the MSM, 52% would not even blink an eye.
Posted by: TXMarko at March 13, 2010 05:20 PM (dM232)
There is a great restaurant there forget the name but they have a chicken fried steak that will make you run everyone off the road into a ditch after you eat it.
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at March 13, 2010 05:21 PM (ooI/T)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at March 13, 2010 05:22 PM (ooI/T)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at March 13, 2010 05:24 PM (ooI/T)
Posted by: Philip at March 13, 2010 05:30 PM (L31/D)
Posted by: Tom Swartz at March 13, 2010 05:35 PM (1qfI0)
Posted by: newrouter at March 13, 2010 05:38 PM (bEZJ+)
FUCKING ASSHOLES!
Posted by: GarandFan at March 13, 2010 06:21 PM (6mwMs)
They couldn't. All unfinished legislative business--i.e., bills, resolutions, proposed constitutional amendments--dies at the end of each Congress. As opposed to executive business, referring to treaties and nominations submitted by the President, which remains pending and carries over from one Congress to the next.
"How in God's name did we get to a place where our Congress is actually considering amending the rules which deem a bill passed despite the fact it was in fact, not passed?"
As I noted in another thread, part of the confusion here is terminology re: the word "rule." This not a proposed amendment to the standing Rules of the House. Rather, what the House calls a "rule" in this context is a separate stand-alone resolution that the House adopts to govern debate on a bill, or on group of bills. This is how the House runs its business, which is why the House Rules Committee is so powerful.
"Rules are not fucking bills. As such, the vote on a rule can't be treated as a vote on a bill."
Yes and no: the House has in the past adopted "self-executing rules" that take effect contingent on some other action either by the House or the Senate, but not attempting to amend statutes that don't exist, or whatever insanity they're trying to pull in this rule. Why they are trying to do this is to sidestep the fact that they can't amend the Senate bill, because they know the post-Brown Senate would then kill it.
While the Senate bill is currently in the House's possession, any amendment to the Senate bill would mean it would have to go back to the Senate, accompanied by a request that the Senate do concur in the House's amendments, or appoint conferees. A vote in the Senate to do either of those things would be subject to cloture and thus to a 60-vote supermajority.
Posted by: Dave J. at March 13, 2010 06:23 PM (DCQ0q)
'Nam and Miss'80sBaby.....
We also have Pointblank between Huntsville and Onalaska so they deserve some consideration.
Posted by: Dave in Singapore at March 13, 2010 06:49 PM (pcJe3)
Posted by: Jimma at March 13, 2010 07:17 PM (8yIhu)
The only time that's valid is when you need to pass a lump of shit.
Oh, wait....
Posted by: Ray-man at March 13, 2010 07:37 PM (m9e+y)
So we really can blame Olympia Snowe for letting this thing out of Senate committee oh so many moons ago. I know I haven't forgotten.
Posted by: Philip at March 13, 2010 08:46 PM (McMAZ)
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Posted by: The Chap in the Deerstalker Cap at March 14, 2010 05:34 AM (ZvIAA)
Nancy and the MSM was us to think they are going to win so we will give up. Actually WE are the ones who are close to winning.
There is NO WAY they will be able to pass the bill in this manner. If they make any changes at all, it must go back to the Senate. The Constitution clearly says the bill must be voted on by both houses.
Don't give up - call those Congress-critters! Better yet, show up at the rally on the 16th! (see www.freedomworks.com for details).
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I guess Pelousi was serious when she said we'd have to pass it to "see what's in it".
I hate these Dem clowns with such a perfect hatred.
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at March 13, 2010 04:29 PM (otlXg)