December 13, 2010
— Purple Avenger 10 dead in Britain so far this winter.
...Health Protection Agency (HPA) confirmed that ten people have died after becoming infected over the last six weeks. The HPA confirms that the H1N1 virus is circulating again this winter....Undoubtedly coming soon to southern US destinations as global warming weary Brits come stateside to bask in the balmy 20 degree Orlando temperatures.
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Posted by: Egypt shows off that Islamic Science NASA's always banging on about at December 13, 2010 05:37 AM (KClEE)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at December 13, 2010 05:39 AM (LH6ir)
Also know that getting the influenza vaccine provides cross-protection against other flu and cold viruses. Getting the vaccination doesn't guarantee you won't get sick from those other diseases, but the duration and magnitude of your illness may be markedly decreased.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 13, 2010 05:42 AM (9hSKh)
Posted by: Sukie Tawdry at December 13, 2010 05:44 AM (jbCcb)
Posted by: Y-not at December 13, 2010 05:47 AM (IDL9N)
Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at December 13, 2010 05:48 AM (HaYO4)
Posted by: Jethro Clinton at December 13, 2010 05:50 AM (GwPRU)
Posted by: nevergiveup at December 13, 2010 05:50 AM (0GFWk)
I'm not convinced that there is any protection from rhinoviruses derived from flu vaccine. Can you document this? Any links?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at December 13, 2010 05:50 AM (LH6ir)
Posted by: Vic at December 13, 2010 05:53 AM (e4sSD)
Enjoy the pneumonia that you will get as a complication of the flu. And you might as well just head on back to the 8th century with that attitude. Why bother with Western culture?
Posted by: Y-not at December 13, 2010 09:47 AM (IDL9N)
That's too small a sample to mean anything, but it's also a manageable problem compared to dying of the flu.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at December 13, 2010 05:54 AM (LH6ir)
Crying wolf.
Not mentioning that any flu-like symptoms are "diagnosed" without testing as the "flu" and PC stipulates it be recorded as H1N1.
When HPA confirms via test results, their claim would at least have that for basis. /Too bad governments shot their credibility wad on Global Warming.
Posted by: maverick muse at December 13, 2010 05:54 AM (H+LJc)
Right back atcha, Mr. Compassionate Conservative.
Posted by: maverick muse at December 13, 2010 05:55 AM (H+LJc)
"I bet more than 10 people have died from ( fill in the blank ) also."
Yeah, is this like Toxic Shock Syndrome where 3 women die every year (not just in the US, but the entire world) and they still have International TSS Awareness Day? It's an epidemic! The Tampon Flu!
Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at December 13, 2010 05:57 AM (HaYO4)
Posted by: somebody else, not me at December 13, 2010 05:58 AM (7EV/g)
7 A large fraction of the people I know who get the flu shot wind up having a reaction to it that is severe enough for them to actually miss work or have to hit the bed for a day or two.
Ditto--- and when you work with an indigent population that has every bug out there, not gettnig your vacine is stupid. You WILL get whatever they have. No way around it.
Posted by: ¤§EZB§¤ at December 13, 2010 05:59 AM (Ty06w)
Are you being critical, or just trying to be amusing? Because I am really insulted by the "compassionate conservative" crack.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at December 13, 2010 05:59 AM (LH6ir)
I'm not convinced that there is any protection from rhinoviruses derived from flu vaccine. Can you document this? Any links?
Shoot, I shouldn't have added the "cold' (rhinoviruses) viruses part. My mistake.
However, there is evidence that one flu vaccination can provide moderate protection against related flu-strains, which can potentially prevent a brush-fire becoming a towering-inferno. Here's one paper from an Army study (open source).
Be warned, there are many cavorts with the study, as explained in the discussion. Also the population studied (US Army service members) is younger, fitter, and has higher rates of flu vaccination than the general public.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 13, 2010 06:00 AM (9hSKh)
Posted by: In Exile at December 13, 2010 06:00 AM (8sD+m)
That's too small a sample to mean anything, but it's also a manageable problem compared to dying of the flu.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative)
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Percentage of healthy adults that die of the flu? I think you've bought into the media hype.
I'm not saying the at risk groups (elderly, children, immune-compromised) shouldn't get the flu. I'm saying that in my experience, the flu shot - which we all know provides really imperfect protection against "the flu" (because of the heterogeneity of flu strains and their inability to guess which ones will dominate any give season) - makes a fair number of people "sick."
A lot of us are allergic to thimerosol, the preservative used in most flu vaccines. I've found that the time I'd waste trying to get a doctor's appointment to get the right type of vaccine, when factored with the number of times I've gotten the flu, averages out to be about the same as the folks I know who get the flu shot and wind up in bed from a reaction and/or with the flu anyway.
Posted by: Y-not at December 13, 2010 06:01 AM (IDL9N)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at December 13, 2010 06:01 AM (ruWHK)
fif me
Posted by: Y-not at December 13, 2010 06:02 AM (IDL9N)
Posted by: Twiki, beedee beedee beedee at December 13, 2010 06:02 AM (yUeuZ)
constantly mutating
Posted by: maverick muse at December 13, 2010 10:00 AM (H+LJc)
When pigs fly.
Posted by: Tami at December 13, 2010 06:02 AM (VuLos)
Every Russian should be armed with an AK-47 to prevent the spread of both bird flu and flying-swine flu! Fire!
Posted by: Vladmir Zhirinovsky at December 13, 2010 06:04 AM (9hSKh)
Posted by: somebody else, not me at December 13, 2010 06:04 AM (7EV/g)
I wouldn't bet against more people dying of other strains of flu in Britain. It's time of year to freak out about H1N1 and have some sort of Executive branch power grab in some remotely related area of our lives For The Greater Good/For The Children.
Everytime I got a flu shot while in the service it took me out for two days. Other than that I had the flu twice in 40 years and it both took me out for 4. One was even after getting vaccinated. No thanks.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 13, 2010 06:05 AM (fLHQe)
Posted by: nevergiveup at December 13, 2010 06:05 AM (0GFWk)
Yep, all those unintended consequences, implications and bad side effects from trusting in the "establishment" to tell the truth, to know what's best for you, yada yada.
Since you missed the point, get off your self-righteous "no sympathy" high horse.
There are no guarantees in life. And it ain't fair. So take your shot. I have no problem with whatever you choose, think, do. But were you to take ill, for whatever reason, it would be low for anyone to say, "I have no sympathy for you."
I've take flu shots before. No more.
Posted by: maverick muse at December 13, 2010 06:06 AM (H+LJc)
Posted by: WIN buttons and Disco at December 13, 2010 06:06 AM (vheDf)
I had forgotten how crappy the flu makes you feel until then.
Posted by: toby928™ at December 13, 2010 06:07 AM (S5YRY)
Posted by: Vic at December 13, 2010 06:08 AM (e4sSD)
Posted by: nevergiveup at December 13, 2010 06:09 AM (0GFWk)
There is lots of hedging in that study. And ages were different, so I am not impressed. But your point about the military being younger and fitter is interesting, because that's exactly who died at the greatest rate during the 1918 flu. The theory is that they had no exposure to previous, similar antigens because they were simply too young. The old farts who survived had been exposed to something similar enough to the Spanish flu that it conferred some immunity.
But anyone who doesn't get vaccinated is an idiot. All of the tired arguments about thimerisol (mercury) and sickness caused by the vaccine and blah, blah blah is just a few steps away from truthers and 9/11 conspiracy theories.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at December 13, 2010 06:10 AM (LH6ir)
Posted by: nevergiveup at December 13, 2010 10:09 AM (0GFWk)
Obviously you aren't around young kids in day care.
Posted by: Vic at December 13, 2010 06:10 AM (e4sSD)
I think we have a thread winner. Now if we could only have a steel cage death match between terminal Islam and Dick Cheney's War Cock, we'd be all set.
Posted by: RightWingProf at December 13, 2010 06:11 AM (UOcNk)
Posted by: nevergiveup at December 13, 2010 06:11 AM (0GFWk)
Posted by: An Observation at December 13, 2010 06:11 AM (ylhEn)
Posted by: rdbrewer at December 13, 2010 06:12 AM (sCemQ)
Posted by: archie bunker at December 13, 2010 06:12 AM (0YS61)
Coming from an absolutist, really credible.
Nice icing on that c-theory fruit cake.
Posted by: maverick muse at December 13, 2010 06:12 AM (H+LJc)
Well, I don't know if you're an idiot, but you're sure a judgmental prick. It must be exhausting going through life meting out your sympathy based on your bizarre set of criteria for any given problem or ailment.
And, since you apparently have absolutely no background in biology or medicine, I will do you the favor of informing you that some people are allergic to thimerosol, a mercury-based compound formerly used in contact lens solutions. The allergic reaction has nothing whatsoever to do with the claims some have that thimerosol produces more serious health problems. However, it is of interest to note that the government has stopped allowing the use of thimerosol in new vaccines for children under age six, so apparently even Uncle Sam is not fully-convinced that the thimerosol concerns are baseless.
Posted by: Y-not at December 13, 2010 06:15 AM (IDL9N)
I got a flu shot in 1978, about three days later I came down with the flu and I thought I was going to die, missed a week's work. I have had neither a flu shot nor the flu since.
There is no need to tell me about how the vaccines have changed since '78; I ain't listening.
Posted by: Pelayo at December 13, 2010 06:16 AM (V9Q+f)
Posted by: Ben at December 13, 2010 06:16 AM (wuv1c)
Actually not completely true. There was a "spike" around the 25 y.o. group but the largest, by far, death rate was still in the old and very young category.
If I am not mistaken, that spike in the 25 year range was attributed to the hardship conditions caused by the war for those fighting in it.
Posted by: Vic at December 13, 2010 06:16 AM (e4sSD)
I didn't buy into any media hype about healthy adults dying of the flu. People die of the flu. That's a fact. And older people tend to die more frequently. That's a fact. But healthy people who choose not to be vaccinated because of stupid fears of thimerisol (sorry, it isn't used in half the vaccine produced) or their other tin-foil hat theories are jeopardizing the rest of us.
Herd immunity is vitally important. So you choose not to get vaccinated? Great, except you could give it to someone who, through no fault of his own, doesn't have sufficient immunity to deal with the virus. And he could die!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at December 13, 2010 06:18 AM (LH6ir)
Posted by: rdbrewer at December 13, 2010 06:19 AM (sCemQ)
Posted by: Fritz at December 13, 2010 06:19 AM (GwPRU)
Lighten up. I was trying to be amusing. But I'll stay on that high horse if you don't mind. I have zero sympathy for people who reject science and jeopardize the rest of us.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at December 13, 2010 06:20 AM (LH6ir)
I like to look at Answers.com on occasion. This time I looked up "try the veal." Someone asked, "Who said I'm here all night folks try the veal and tip your waitress?"
Answer: "What's that supposed to mean?"
Posted by: rdbrewer at December 13, 2010 06:22 AM (sCemQ)
1976 been there done that
Posted by: maverick muse at December 13, 2010 09:59 AM (H+LJc)
I remember that well. Me, my brother and a friend went to the health center to get the vaccine. The line must have been four blocks long. We cut in front of the line and walked right in. When somebody asked what we were doing we said "we're getting the results from our venereal disease tests". It was as if the Red Sea had parted.Posted by: Ed Anger at December 13, 2010 06:23 AM (7+pP9)
Does that include climate change, especially the AGW kind?
Posted by: Pelayo at December 13, 2010 06:23 AM (V9Q+f)
Posted by: Hosehead at December 13, 2010 06:23 AM (yUeuZ)
Posted by: spooge-drenched MFM talking heads at December 13, 2010 06:23 AM (yRrAd)
That is a contributing factor. Also, there is a new line of thought about the 1918 Spanish Flu epidemic - that it was bacteria, not the influenza viruses only, that caused the majority of the Spanish Flu deaths.
/New recruits weren't accustomed to the local bacterial flora, so when they contracted the flu, the bacteria made niches into the now-cleared epithelial cells of the respiratory tract and killed the victims via pneumonia.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 13, 2010 06:23 AM (9hSKh)
The curve is described a s a "W," with the additional peak among ages 18-40. The young and the old always die at greater rates, so that's why the Spanish Flu was unique.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at December 13, 2010 06:24 AM (LH6ir)
Posted by: rdbrewer at December 13, 2010 06:25 AM (sCemQ)
Posted by: Pelayo at December 13, 2010 10:23 AM (V9Q+f)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at December 13, 2010 06:26 AM (LH6ir)
When US government scientists resurrected the 1918 strain in 2005, the virus demolished cells grown in a Petri dish and felled mice by the dozen.
Are these people insane????
Posted by: Vic at December 13, 2010 06:27 AM (e4sSD)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at December 13, 2010 10:20 AM (LH6ir)
It's not about rejecting science, it's about not wanting to get fucked up on purpose for a couple of days at a time. Been there, done that every year for 6 years until I was high enough rank to be able to avoid it. And it just must have been fucking magic that after I stopped getting flu shots I stopped getting jacked up.
Seriously, if you're that afraid you're going to die from Swine Flu, I suggest you also go out and buy a powerball ticket. In the name of science of course.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 13, 2010 06:28 AM (fLHQe)
Posted by: Vic at December 13, 2010 06:29 AM (e4sSD)
Yes, I saw that, and yes, the people are insane.
/Seriously, how else are you going to study flu-virus mutations and their effects on the populace without bringing back that infamous strain?
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 13, 2010 06:30 AM (9hSKh)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at December 13, 2010 10:20 AM (LH6ir)
Tell it to Harvard's Dean of Medicine.
Glad you know it all, aren't you. pfff
Try excusing your zero sympathy where people care what you think.
There ARE some people's bodies that can NOT tolerate vaccinations any longer.
Posted by: maverick muse at December 13, 2010 06:30 AM (H+LJc)
Lots of those military deaths occurred in stateside military bases. And of course most of the deaths were among civilians.
I don't know the answer, but I would bet that many flu deaths are caused by the attendant pneumonia and other bacterial infections that are as a result of the weakening of the immune system and the general ass-kicking that flu causes.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at December 13, 2010 06:31 AM (LH6ir)
Can you say "Captain Tripps"?
Posted by: Vic at December 13, 2010 06:31 AM (e4sSD)
No, I'm not afraid at all. The odds are overwhelming that I would survive it. But why take the chance of being feeling like shit for a week, and endangering others?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at December 13, 2010 06:34 AM (LH6ir)
I'll stick with preventative precautions for the moment, thanks. Somewhat more reliable, in my experience.
Posted by: AoSHQ's DarkLord© at December 13, 2010 06:38 AM (GBXon)
No, I don't know it all, but I know enough about this topic to be unimpressed by fallacious arguments.
I've never met the dean of Harvard. But if I do, why would I discuss this with him? Are you talking about something you read, but can't find again, thus the lack of a link?
My zero sympathy is clearly something about which you care very much.
If you truly can't tolerate the vaccine, then obviously that's a different issue.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at December 13, 2010 06:38 AM (LH6ir)
1. The late war of 1861
2. Sarah Palin
3. Christine OÂ’Donnell
4. RINO label
5. Purity label
6. now flu shots
All it takes is at least one ill considered remark.
Posted by: Vic at December 13, 2010 06:39 AM (e4sSD)
How the hell can you be endangering others when you're home alone, on your ass in bed until the bug decides it's beat the shit out of you long enough and dies?
Posted by: Sukie Tawdry at December 13, 2010 06:39 AM (jbCcb)
Yes, but I sure don't want to work in that lab. Or the one next door.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at December 13, 2010 06:40 AM (LH6ir)
I've had one flu shot ever and that was two years ago which made me feel funky (not sick but not quite right). Had the flu six years ago that knocked me out for five days. I was a commuter for eight years on crowded trains and busses but only got it once. Go figure.
Posted by: Annabelle at December 13, 2010 06:41 AM (Zeljq)
Because you are contagious before you feel sick.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at December 13, 2010 06:42 AM (LH6ir)
Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at December 13, 2010 06:43 AM (HaYO4)
Posted by: Jean at December 13, 2010 06:46 AM (xkJak)
92 Posted by: Sukie Tawdry at December 13, 2010 10:39 AM (jbCcb)
Because you are contagious before you feel sick.
Yep--- as well as if you work in situations where adequate staffing numbers are critical so people think they can 'work through the bug'. I've seen entire units nearly unstaffed by a flu-cold-stomach bug. Call me a 'better living through chemisty' person, but if they offer a vaccine, I'm first in line to take it.
Posted by: ¤§EZB§¤ at December 13, 2010 06:52 AM (Ty06w)
I've always wondered, since the human flu shot targets rhinopneumonitis, if it had the same sort of efficientcy as the shot used on horses and dogs -- which in order to be really effective for animals in transit and exposed to different populations with regularity, has to be boostered every 2-3 mos. -- if that's the case, this once a year flu shot isn't enough and people are getting sold a bill of goods.
Posted by: unknown jane at December 13, 2010 07:00 AM (5/yRG)
Flu vaccine doesn't target rhinopneumonitis. It targets the flu virus (orthomyxoviridae). And you get a new vaccine each year because the flu changes each year. We get different strains, and some of those strains have mutated enough so that the immune system doesn't recognize them.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at December 13, 2010 07:14 AM (LH6ir)
Posted by: eman at December 13, 2010 07:18 AM (b1GWR)
Posted by: navybrat at December 13, 2010 07:20 AM (zBUlJ)
1. The late war of 1861
2. Sarah Palin
3. Christine OÂ’Donnell
4. RINO label
5. Purity label
6. now flu shots
All it takes is at least one ill considered remark.
Posted by: Vic at December 13, 2010 10:39 AM (e4sSD)
For #1, did you mean the Slave Owner's revolt of 1861? Just wondering.
Posted by: Gavrilo Princip at December 13, 2010 07:24 AM (7+pP9)
lol, juvenile. The Dean of Harvard School of Medicine--go figure. That you lack, and require spoon feeding is your own problem. Not mine. I don't need your sympathy, nor do I want anything of you. You are incapable of getting past your own absolutism.
Posted by: maverick muse at December 13, 2010 07:36 AM (H+LJc)
Your Holy Opinion and $3 gets me a cup of coffee. One guess which got the job done...
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at December 13, 2010 07:36 AM (PMGbu)
I've lived most of my life in the South. Amazingly, they probably think less about it here than the North does. Funny, that.
Posted by: AoSHQ's DarkLord© at December 13, 2010 07:38 AM (GBXon)
Posted by: AoSHQ's DarkLord© at December 13, 2010 07:39 AM (GBXon)
All it takes is at least one ill considered remark.
Posted by: Vic
Self-righteous asshats that dictate were bad enough. Juvenile know-it-alls who play Alinsky to keep the masses in line should own up to their own authoritarianism.
Posted by: maverick muse at December 13, 2010 07:42 AM (H+LJc)
We reject the "swine flu" and its efforts to infiltrate the Dar al Islam in violation of the Prophet's commandment to the Faithful to avoid pigs. Similarly, we must command the Faithful to not be vaccinated for the "swine flu" since of course the viral components must somehow be tainted by pigs.
And of course, if you disagree with us, you are Islamophobic and should be killed.
Posted by: The Council on American-Islamic Relations at December 13, 2010 07:49 AM (QUuUE)
AoSHQ's DarkLord©
Ironic, the Union. Which region ended up with a complex, the type being superiority carrying the "right" to abuse: 1. The late war of 1861--Funny, that.
Posted by: maverick muse at December 13, 2010 07:49 AM (H+LJc)
Posted by: AoSHQ's DarkLord© at December 13, 2010 11:39 AM (GBXon)
I'm bored. Who here thinks longbows and their highly trained owners totally own crossbows and the peasant rabble impressed into using them?
Posted by: Josef K., in a playful mood at December 13, 2010 07:50 AM (7+pP9)
1. The late war of 1861
2. Sarah Palin
3. Christine OÂ’Donnell
4. RINO label
5. Purity label
6. now flu shots
All it takes is at least one ill considered remark.
Posted by: Vic at December 13, 2010 10:39 AM (e4sSD)
How could you possible forget the battle of the hip to thigh ratio of that adorable pin-up retro calendar girl who has fundraiser for the troops. If I recall the hip to thigh ration was some sort of bizarre male calculus that made the girl totally not hot or something.
Posted by: Long Time Lurker at December 13, 2010 08:01 AM (TiURi)
Posted by: archie bunker at December 13, 2010 10:12 AM (0YS61)
26 tonight in the land of the mouse, 30 tomorrow night. So yeah, you might want to wait until Friday.
Posted by: Meathead at December 13, 2010 08:08 AM (YmPwQ)
Wow. You'll be citing Barack Obama next.
I am unimpressed by your bluster. If you use the dean of Harvard Med as evidence of something, have the courtesy and intelligence to make the point. But spouting his name as a support for your comments without any context is just silly.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at December 13, 2010 08:12 AM (LH6ir)
I must have missed that one.
Posted by: Vic at December 13, 2010 08:17 AM (e4sSD)
Posted by: Luca Brasi at December 13, 2010 08:20 AM (YmPwQ)
H1N1 is the flu strain formerly known as "swine flu."
H5N1 is the flu strain formerly known as "avian flu."
(I say "formerly known" because the mutations that occur as part of transferrence from animal to human hosts and then from human to human invariably changes the structure enough to make them distinct from the original animal-borne version).
The flu shot only protects against the five strains of flu that the WHO (I believe, or it might be the CDC) feels will be most prevalent throughout the world in the coming flu season. It is not a failsafe, and it may not protect you against any other strains of flu that might crop up in addition to those five. H1N1 caused such a panic last year because it was affecting young, otherwise healthy adults, who do not fall into the usual flu shot demographics of the elderly, the very young, those with respiratory and chronic illnesses, and those with deficient immune systems. It remains to be seen if the same is true of these ten new cases in Britain.
Posted by: MWR at December 13, 2010 08:28 AM (4df7R)
I think those 10 cases in Britain are going to be part of the background in a few months. I think many people lose sight of the fact that flu is very common most years.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at December 13, 2010 08:35 AM (LH6ir)
Posted by: Long Time Lurker at December 13, 2010 08:56 AM (TiURi)
Posted by: Vic at December 13, 2010 09:00 AM (e4sSD)
Posted by: unknown jane at December 13, 2010 09:16 AM (5/yRG)
Interestingly enough, British Airways has direct 747-400 service from London to Phoenix. There must be a LOT of Poms coming over to sunbathe.
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at December 13, 2010 10:11 AM (nD3Pg)
Please.
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at December 13, 2010 11:13 AM (61b7k)
And you'd believe that source.
I have my own reasons which you fail to respect. You insist that I care about what you think, proving your own insecurity.
Dumbass, go suck your original blather on your own. Your feelings were offended at the consideration that making blanket condemnations as you did is as stupid as stupid gets. You took offense at yourself. "Compassionate conservatives" always have the best intentions, so far as propaganda goes, just like your rationale that everyone must take the flu vaccine or be considered part of a threat to society. You target any distinction as foolish; you name yourself THE authority, and any difference of opinion as a basis to target as "truther" and conspiracy theorist. No variances, unless upon later reflection you determine, as Obama does with his shitty ObamaCare, to decide upon breaking your own authoritarian rule with an exemption to be determined on your own part. And when proven wrong, your lame excuse is that you're only joking.
“childhood obesity isn’t just a public health threat, it’s not just an economic threat, it’s a national security threat as well." ...has a familiar ring to your own rhetoric.
You're so stuck on yourself, you're glued to your pimple pussed mirror.
Posted by: maverick muse at December 13, 2010 11:35 AM (H+LJc)
You really are a stupid ass when it comes to this topic. And that surprised me a bit because I recall you being rational about other issues.
Work on your reading comprehension before you play with the adults.
I made a simple declaratory statement: "I have no sympathy for anyone who gets the flu and hasn't been vaccinated." You don't like that? I don't give a rat's ass what you dislike. I pointed out some facts to buttress my statement, but you are too fucking dense to understand them. My "authority" was based on those facts; nothing else. As for your "compassionate conservative" comment? It is completely irrelevant and a non sequitur because I made no suggestion that the government become involved. I merely pointed out the stupidity of people who use pseudo-science to justify their avoidance of social responsibility.
I obviously got under your skin, so in a way it was successful. ;-)
Posted by: Robert Taylor at December 13, 2010 01:13 PM (LH6ir)
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