1 I would have but the end tag on the end of this post to prevent the gray box of death.

2 Charles Johnson raped and murdered a standard poodle in 1998.

3 Greyness envelopes all...

4

Stop mixing black and white!

It's gonna get grey here!

5 Do you get greyout from positive or negative g forces?

6 Noooooooooo.  That's punching way way down.

Rule #4 of blogging: Don't punch down.
Rule #3 of blogging: Close your tags.
Rule #2 of blogging: Don't punch your tags.

And the most important rule about blogging...don't talk about blogging.

7

*SIGH*

I so miss when LGF was cool.

8 Well, it's not much of beach picture.

9 Stop giving attention to LGF.  They're the lowest ranking blog on the internet.  Do you know what punching down means?  Stop punching down!

10 What some stooge puts on a sign, Charles Johnson puts on his blog, but he calls himself clever for doing so.

And so does his brainless sycophants.

11 Remind me again why it was anyone considered Cahrles as a conservative?

12 Is anyone really going to click over? Isn't CJ sorta soooo 2003?

13 I don't get it.  Why did Chas put up a picture of democrats in the 1950's on his site?  Is Robert Byrd in there somewhere?  That photo looks like MSNBC's primetime lineup.

14 What's it called when you punch the sub-basement floor?

15

compulsion of tongue-bating

That just needed to be repeated.

16 I'm kinda in the camp that thinks he's not worth the space or linkage. He's a race baiting smear merchant, nothing more.

17 7*SIGH*

I so miss when LGF was cool.

That feels like a lifetime ago.  The madness of King Charles.

18 charles johnson circa 1950:

http://tinyurl.com/ylmgpq8

19 Everyone of those maggot farmers is a card carrying Democrat. The Democrats invented Jim Crow, lynching and ballot taxes. Too bad everyone believes the kumbaya whitewashing and revisionism from the sixties. By the way, assholes; George Wallace was a DEMOCRAT!!!111!

20 Who is Charles Johnson?

21 Had he attended the pictured meeting of  hard-core Democrats in 1950, CJ would have taken an "artistic" picture of a two-square-inch section of a corner of the flag.

22

From Michael Barone's fascinating piece comparing the 1994 and 1946 elections:

Recent polls tell me that the Democratic Party is in the worst shape I have seen during my 50 years of following politics closely. So I thought it would be interesting to look back at the biggest Republican victory of the last 80 years, the off-year election of 1946. Republicans in that election gained 13 seats in the Senate and emerged with a 51–45 majority there, the largest majority that they enjoyed between 1930 and 1980. And they gained 55 seats in the House, giving them a 246–188 majority in that body, the largest majority they have held since 1930. The popular vote for the House was 53% Republican and 44% Democratic, a bigger margin than Republicans have won ever since. And that’s even more impressive when you consider that in 1946 Republicans did not seriously contest most seats in the South. In the 11 states that had been part of the Confederacy, Democrats won 103 of 105 seats and Republicans won only 2 seats in east Tennessee. In the 37 non-Confederate states, in contrast, Republicans won 246 of 330 seats, compared to only 85 for Democrats.

By the way, eastern Tennessee was a redoubt of Union support back in the days of the U.S. Civil War.

23 Actually, I'm glad LGF went wackadoodle.

It brought me over here, and I'm very happy about that indeed.

Plus, the level of snark here is A++

24 Bull Connor was also a Democrat.

25

Instead of LGF, I'll link to this fine young moronette in training.

http://tiny.cc/bb158

Remember to ALWAYS smile for your booking photo.

26 Cluckin' Chucky.  "Unconfirmed" rumors have it - he's ambi.  Both The Chicken or The Chickener.

27 20 Who is Charles Johnson?

Imagine Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons, and minus about 100 IQ points.  That's him.

28 Oh, LGF? From the title I thought this was going to be another someguy thread.

29

So CJ is a race-bater, and a complulsive tongue-bater.

If he keeps it up he'll soon be a master-bater.

 

There's a reason I don't make my living doing comedy.

30 #26 Remember to ALWAYS smile for your booking photo.

What a bright future ahead for that young moronette...*rolls eyes*.

31

Ohh goody, skull fucking to liven my crappy month end fun day. 

Ace, to make me extra happy, can you drag both upchucki's ponytailed skull and fuckity fuck fucks's around the arena?

32 You have to admit, that was a nice booking photo!  I particularly liked the shoulderless ensemble.

33

7 I so miss when LGF was cool.

This blog is way more fun than boogers ever was.

34 26

Instead of LGF, I'll link to this fine young moronette in training.

http://tiny.cc/bb158

Remember to ALWAYS smile for your booking photo.

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at April 07, 2010 07:34 PM (F09Uo)

Chixulub, Yucatan, some assembly required.

35

36 You're so right, Mr. Ace! 

Upding!

Upding!

37 #35  This blog is way more fun than boogers ever was.

Indeed.  Finding this place after Charles deemed Ace Persona non Grata was a last-minute gift from LGF.

I should also note -- this is a bit late, but what the hell -- that Johnson had a bad reputation among right-of-center bloggers. If you sent Charles Johnson a tip, he rarely gave you a prominent link for it. What he tended to do is steal the guts of your tip -- your story, your find, even your analysis -- and put it all up on his blog with only a perfunctory hat-tip at the end. Taking the whole guts of what you'd sent him and putting it up on his site, leaving nothing behind for anyone to click on with that useless hat-tip at the end.

Now you tell us, Ace.

38 Is "ghfgh" the sound you make when you're sucking your wife's dick?

39 Your tip, his traffic. Pretty much he's built his blog on stealing stuff from his betters. (And then, later, slandering his betters.)

Common Ace.Your holding back. Tell us how you really feel. (I'm serious, kan I haz the rant pleeze? We want the the Contessa Brewer Rant! Charles has earned it, and this is AoSHQ; we haven't lowered the black flag and commenced with the taking of prisoners have we?)

40 Clean up on isle #37.  Killbore, is that you?

41 Shit like this is why I hate when people tell me history is boring or doesn't matter. I swear the next person who tells me that is going to get kicked in the balls. It's usually a snotty teenager or lefty college kid, too.

42 Charles Johnson is cleverer than I gave him credit. Above this absurd post to bait traffic to his site, he has some excellent posts making good, related point (which he needed to have any hope of the traffic sticking to his site). Like criticizing Virginia's Republican Governor Bob McDonnell's statements such as: "McDonnell said he did not include a reference to slavery [in the state's Confederate History Month statement] because “there were any number of aspects to that conflict between the states. Obviously, it involved slavery. It involved other issues. But I focused on the ones I thought were most significant for Virginia.” Which is madness, discreditable madness. McDonnel was forced to recant and issue a strong statement of dubious sincerity. Let's not say Johnson doesn't have a point here... because he does.

43

I'm pretty sure that edifice behind them utilizes architectural elements from the Reichstag.

/CJ

44

Bull Connor was also a Democrat.

Posted by: rawmuse at April 07, 2010 07:33 PM (OQ3LO)

From The Encycopedia of Alabama:

In 1934, Connor entered the Democratic primary race for a seat in the Alabama House of Representatives. Claiming that his candidacy was a lark, Connor barely campaigned, but his name recognition as a radio personality helped him to win the election. Connor served in the legislature from 1935 to 1937 and introduced or championed bills, such as poll tax reform, that were popular with white working-class people and unions. He opposed tax increases and legislative pay raises and voted against an anti-sedition bill designed to stifle labor union activity. In 1937 Connor was elected Birmingham's commissioner of public safety, a position that gave him administrative authority over the police and fire departments, schools, the public health service, and libraries. Aligned with Birmingham's large business interests, Connor supported low taxes and limited government. To the white public, he presented himself as a champion of working people, a tireless crime fighter, and an uncompromising defender of racial segregation. He won reelection to the city commission in 1941, 1945, and 1949. In 1950, Connor ran unsuccessfully for governor and then returned to his work as a commissioner. He did not seek reelection to the commission in 1953 because of a scandal involving an extramarital affair and charges of police corruption, but he was voted back onto the commission in 1957. In 1962, he ran another unsuccessful campaign for governor.

Connor served as a delegate to five Democratic National Conventions (1948, 1956, 1960, 1964, and 196 . At the 1948 convention, he helped lead a walkout by Southern delegates in protest of President Harry S. Truman's civil rights policies. This action resulted in a split in the southern wing of the Democratic Party, with the dissenters becoming known as Dixiecrats.

A staunch and sometimes flamboyant white supremacist, Connor was known for making outrageous comments to the press and for instigating now-famous confrontations over Birmingham's segregation ordinances with First Lady Eleanor Roosevelt and U.S. Senator Glen Taylor. While apparently not a member of the Ku Klux Klan, Connor protected Klansmen who committed racial violence, including bombings. In 1961, he ordered Birmingham police to stay away from the Trailways bus station while Klansmen attacked the Freedom Riders, a group of civil rights activists who were touring the South to protest segregation. This attack, combined with his closing of city parks to prevent desegregation, the threatened closing of city schools, and Birmingham's worsening reputation in the national media, turned the local business community and a majority of the white electorate against Connor. In 1962, the citizens voted to change the form of city government, in part to remove him from office.

Along with Birmingham's two other city commissioners, Connor filed a legal challenge to the change in city government and remained in office until May 1963. During this time, Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., in cooperation with local civil rights leaders, led demonstrations in Birmingham against racial segregation. Connor ordered Birmingham police officers and firemen to use dogs and high-pressure water hoses against demonstrators. Images of the resulting mayhem appeared on television and in newspapers throughout the country and helped to shift public opinion in favor of national civil-rights legislation. Images of the demonstrations are still regularly broadcast and published and have helped cement Connor and Birmingham as symbols of racial intolerance.

After leaving office in Birmingham, Connor was elected to two terms as president of the Alabama Public Service Commission (1964–73), the state agency that regulates utilities. He died as the result of a stroke on March 10, 1973. Unlike some white supremacist leaders of his time, Connor was unrepentant and never repudiated his defense of racial segregation.

45 I'm not clicking to LGF unless you can assure me I will see one of those photos from Charles that deeply stirs the soul. Much like a large swirling dog turd on the sidewalk.

46 I didn't go look. I don't want to.

47 That skull and crossbones on the Ace of Spades HQ logo?

Definitely a Nazi White Supremacist logo

I shall now return to my own blog where I dispense the insults rather than absorb them

48

26,

That girl has a hell of a future.  She lives in Florida, right?  Has she had sex with Tiger Woods yet?

49 Buckethead? I think it was Buckhead.

50

Posted by: ghfgh at April 07, 2010 07:40 PM (jSWOe)

#37 Ace, how about getting rid of Killgore Trout? He was displaying his incisive analytic talents at 163 in the someguy thread also, under another nic.

51 37 Shit the fuck up you stupid white crackers assholes! Bow down And Bend over and Suck your masters black Cock and take it up the ass you time is over!! BLACK POWER!!

Always an honor to have you visit us, Mr. President!

52 Syphillus is a brain wasting disease. Can a person get it through the anal cavity? That might explain the CJ meltdown of late. Just asking.

53 It figures Christoph is the actual asshat that clicks over there. I wouldn't click that site with my boss's isp.

54 Somebody mention black powder?

55 And then there was the truly spiteful iceweasel accusing Ace of misogyny (safe link to Blogmocracy): 5 iceweasel Wed, Apr 7, 2010 12:14:37pm replyquote * 2 * down * up * report re: #661 Shill ‘meh. I read a lot of blogs. Crooks and Liars, Instapundit, Patterico, Atrios, Daily Kos, NYT blogs, CNN blogs, and on and on. I don’t think Ace is that bad. He’s not a racist or a bircher, that’s for sure. Ace is scum. Misogynistic scum.

Shill was, of course, swiftly banned.

Personally, I wasn't aware that AoSHQ was a no gurlz ullowwd klubhows; but that is why we have LGF and its fine commenters to enlighten us.

Since I know the lizards watch every blogmocracy thread, I'm pretty sure the Weasel saw what I said, but it bears repeating: I think Iceweasel should be invited over here to persuade the moronettes to give up on Ace and to register at LGF instead. Cato the Elder, to give one example, can discuss the finer points of Sarah Palin blowup dolls and other non-misogynistic points of topic.

56

Buckethead?

How about Pailhed?

57 I cut my blog lurking teeth on LGF. I never go near there anymore, but it saddens me to hear about what it has become.

58 Ace, this Fascist, Creationist and Birther blog blinds you to the truth.  That picture is solid evidence that today's Tea Parties are the descendants of the anti-miscegenationists in the '50s.  Next thing you know, you'll be saying that that Joe Wilson didn't say "boy" to Barrack Obama after he screamed out "You lie!" to him.

You are hereby banned from my Internets!  I bid you adieu.

59 You realize pretty much all of those people were DEMOCRATS, right?

Heck, has anyone checked to see if Byrd is in the picture?

60 A couple of years ago Cahrles announce that he was taking down the 'Frank Says...' feature off his blog. He said that it had run its course and was no longer relevant. I see that it's back up. Good 'ole Cahrles.

61 he has some excellent posts making good, related point

No he doesn't. What does McDonnell have to do with the Tea Party? What does not including a reference to slavery have to do with small government and low taxes?

If you want to read his stupid ridiculous piece of shit site, go ahead. If you want to indulge in the delusion that CJ has insight, go right the fuck ahead. But let's be clear - only retarded updinging mushheads do so.

62 Did Charles take that picture.  I mean it is JUST.  SO.  FUCKING.  AWESOME!

63 The Green Lizard shall triumph, you racist teabagging haters!

64 I have pictures of Chucky boy wearing black face while playing bass guitar with a skinhead thrash band.

65 47 I'm not clicking to LGF unless you can assure me I will see one of those photos from Charles that deeply stirs the soul. Much like a large swirling dog turd on the sidewalk. Posted by: mare at April 07, 2010 07:43 PM

Charles has stopped posting his snapshots of hinges, bicycle sprockets and tankers 5 miles away, and now he posts covers from his comic book collection

A smart man would know in advance that his detractors would compare him to the ponytailed Hawaiian shirted character on The Simpsons.

Awareness of how others really see him is not one of his strong suits

66

A post on someguy.

A post on the pockmarked face bicycle humping fruitcup.

A post on any of the Bellevue mental patients a/k/a/ the folks at MSNBC would complete this trifecta of irrelevancy.

You can do it, Ace!

67  What's it called when you punch the sub-basement floor?

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 07, 2010 07:30 PM (ykuzD)

Painful.

68 Well, it's not much of beach picture.

Where's the fucking bicycles?  Charles said there'd be bicycles!

69 I'm pretty sure that edifice behind them utilizes architectural elements from the Reichstag.

And the use of eagles and such? You realize that was a NAZI symbol, right?

70 I cut my blog lurking teeth on LGF. I never go near there anymore, but it saddens me to hear about what it has become.

Posted by: bergerbilder at April 07, 2010 07:49 PM (S1Ttj)

--I miss Arafish.

71 Personally, I wasn't aware that AoSHQ was a no gurlz ullowwd klubhows; but that is why we have LGF and its fine commenters to enlighten us.

No girls are allowed here? Shit, how'd I get in?

72 "No he doesn't. What does McDonnell have to do with the Tea Party?" He's making a point that there are elements within the conservative movement which are racist, or at least dismissive of the history of slavery. But assuming I'm wrong and there's no connection at all between the two (if only laterally), McDonnell disgraced himself and made himself look like a fool.

73 Bittersweet post. I'm glad when Ace rips this skid mark - on the other hand I literally had forgotten about Little Green Lunatics for a couple of months.

74 Ok, a serious question. What  other sites do people here read?

My main sources of rightie news are Drudge, Instapundit, the Corner and Ace. Then, less frequently, places like HotAir, GatewayPundit, Commentary's blog. RedState some. I find the angrier I am on a given day the wider my reading is, and the more likely I am to dip into more intense blogs. Riehl has been good for that lately. Actually Ace started as one of my edgy, angry sites and has become one of my regular reads. I felt guilty reading Ace at first (yes, I'm naturally uptight and reserved). And Instapundit seems to have developed an angrier tone in the Obama era. If I'm feeling really angry I'll hit Free Republic, but I've usually calmed down by then.

Occasionally I'll go through the lists of top political blogs and read them for a few days to see if I'm missing anything. Typically everybody covers the same stories, though. Oh, McArdle and Marginal Revolution are sort of econ/political/policy blogs so they count too, I guess.

75 I have pictures of Chucky boy wearing black face while playing bass guitar with a skinhead thrash band.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 07, 2010 07:49 PM (P33XN)

Ok, who hasn't done that?

76 So, even if unrelated, it's still a worthy post and raises a fair point.

77 I stopped reading LGF after he ripped Pres. Bush apart for feeling tired. Haven't read an entire thread since.

78 "Ok, a serious question. What other sites do people here read?" wattsupwiththat Small Dead Animals Real Clear Politics (left and right views, major writers) YouTube (plenty of great channels with philosophy if nothing else covered well)

79

McDonnell disgraced himself and made himself look like a fool.

He apologized, Cristoph:

http://is.gd/bjdMj

80 McDonnell said he did not include a reference to slavery [in the state's Confederate History Month statement] because "there were any number of aspects to that conflict between the states. Obviously, it involved slavery. It involved other issues. But I focused on the ones I thought were most significant for Virginia."

Which is madness, discreditable madness.

Shouldn't we reserve the term "madness" for things like this instead of tin-eared politicking? 

81 I read Correspondence Committee aka C2 I also read Lucianne.com, but that is a much more restrained experience. Both of those are less free wheeling than Ace. For money stuff, I read MarketTicker. Henninger can barely contain himself some days...

82 Here's the post in its entirety, so you don't have to click over, but of course you will, because so many of you are on pins and needles about what unexpected insight Sharmutra and Kilgore Trout will have about Johnson's post:

Sharmuta was cast out over a month ago, just before Double-Wide Irish Rose was tossed to the curb. I guess her squeakhole got worn out and Iceweasel turned against her for leaving chewing gum in CJ's pubes.

Even tongue bathing won't guarantee you everlasting love from the Comic Book Blogger anymore. Sure it's like watching two fat girls fighting over you, but CJ takes his love where he can get it

83

 I cut my blog lurking teeth on LGF. I never go near there anymore, but it saddens me to hear about what it has become.

 

What pissed me off more about LGF was that there were people that posted there that sounded rock-conservative, but once Charlie started banning conservative posters, these same people suddenly became "good progressives" just so they could keep posting on that shitwad blog.

84

You know what, I have just about had it with this site always trashing me and LGF! Most of you morons here followed me for years. You loved the smell of my farts, I didn't have to bury my face in my buttocks to smell the farts, you guys smelled them for me and then told me how great they smelled. You loved it and you know you did. So, I just wanted to set the record straight.

Now, the claims of me being gay and having a dildo mounted onto the seatpost of my bike? Those are true.

85

Posted by: jim at April 07, 2010 07:52 PM (+ABdJ)

--I like the Corner occasionally, but American Thinker, Gateway Pundit and Breitbart's sites are my faves.

86 Let's not say Johnson doesn't have a point here... because he does.

Posted by: Christoph at April 07, 2010 07:43 PM (0fq7b)

No, he really doesn't.  Unless you think the addition of this motherhood-and-apple-pie clause actually makes any difference whatsoever in considering the history of Virginia during the Civil War:

WHEREAS, it is important for all Virginians to understand that the institution of slavery led to this war and was an evil and inhumane practice that deprived people of their God-given inalienable rights and all Virginians are thankful for its permanent eradication from our borders, and the study of this time period should reflect upon and learn from this painful part of our history; and...

I mean, if McDonnell hadn't added this, would the people of Virginia suddenly have gotten the idea that slavery was good?  Maybe reinstitute it within their borders?

But McDonnell did intentionally include this:

WHEREAS, all Virginians can appreciate the fact that when ultimately overwhelmed by the insurmountable numbers and resources of the Union Army, the surviving, imprisoned and injured Confederate soldiers gave their word and allegiance to the United States of America, and returned to their homes and families to rebuild their communities in peace, following the instruction of General Robert E. Lee of Virginia, who wrote that, “...all should unite in honest efforts to obliterate the effects of war and to restore the blessings of peace."; and...

Because it's necessary to remind low-grade cretins like Charles Johnson that Southerners are Americans, too -- and not all the segregationists he attempts to paint them as with his 1950s Democrat rally photo.

The real purpose -- a valid purpose -- of Confederate History Month in Virginia is as McDonnell's original proclamation stated:

WHEREAS,   this defining chapter in VirginiaÂ’s history should not be forgotten, but instead should be studied, understood and remembered by all Virginians, both in the context of the time in which it took place, but also in the context of the time in which we live, and this study and remembrance takes on particular importance as the Commonwealth prepares to welcome the nation and the world to visit Virginia for the Sesquicentennial Anniversary of the Civil War, a four-year period in which the exploration of our history can benefit all....

87 74 And how could he possibly let girls prattle on about choos and men in kilts?

88 "He apologized, Cristoph:" The fact that a man, an educated man, a governor of an American state, one of the original colonies, could make a statement on behalf of his state without mentioning slavery at all, and then say in essence he didn't mention it because it hadn't been an important issue in the Civil War for Virginia... ... isn't something a forced apology covers. Seriously.

89 Funniest post I read all day was over at the New York Post, they had a story about Tiger doing the beast with 2 backs with his neighbor's daughter. She described the sex as "mechanical and unemotional". Someone chimed in "you say that like it is a bad thing..."

90 31 #26 Remember to ALWAYS smile for your booking photo.

What a bright future ahead for that young moronette...*rolls eyes*.

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at April 07, 2010 07:36 PM (c0A3e)

If you look at that picture closely does it look like she has pulled the front of her top down?

Stupid booking plaque

91 No girls are allowed here? Shit, how'd I get in?

Posted by: wherestherum at April 07, 2010 07:51 PM (gofDd)

Rumor has it you stomped your way through.

92 I should also note -- this is a bit late, but what the hell -- that Johnson had a bad reputation among right-of-center bloggers. If you sent Charles Johnson a tip, he rarely gave you a prominent link for it.

That was my experience with Sullivan in 2002. I sent him a tip, he emailed "thank you so much for the update", posted the text, and then didn't link back to my post.

I blew it off at the time because, hey, back then he was the hero of the blogosphere.

It seems that an opportunist, like water and chlorine gas, will always find its level.

93 Christoph takes a big turd once again on this point: does Charles realize the people on this photo are dems? The south left the union united as racist dems and when lbj passed civil rights he had to pass it with republicans trying to get moderate dems to back the bil...

94

Fucking socks are persistant.  Oh well.

95 I titled my picture Tea Partiers, Circa 1950

but I am not saying all of today's tea partiers are like this.

96 He's making a point that there are elements within the conservative movement which are racist, or at least dismissive of the history of slavery.

Posted by: Christoph at April 07, 2010 07:52 PM (0fq7b)

So here is a question, let's presume that McDonnell was being dismissive of slavery. It has been gone for 140 years and race based slavery is not coming back.

Yet apparently McDonnell's actions are a BFD.

On the other hand, pretty much the entirety of the left is dismissive of the oppressive history of socialism. International Socialism was an existential threat until 20 years ago, and National Socialism of the modern European model is on the rise, most notably in the form of one Barack Obama. So why is this not a BFD?

97 Ok, a serious question. What  other sites do people here read?

American Thinker
Gateway Pundit
Blackfive
This Ain't Hell
WSJ & IBD editorials
NRO, "The Corner"

98 Just giving an update --- let McDonnell know you do not accept his apology.

99 Johnson is posting link bait, eh. So.... I guess it worked, then?

100 Rumor has it you stomped your way through.

Never underestimate the power of stompy boots.

101 77 Ok, a serious question. What other sites do people here read?

Unqualified Reservations; Blogmocracy; Mangans; Steve Sailer; Lawrence Auster; Half Sigma; the Corner (for Derbyshire).

Blogmocracy is the left wing blog in what I read.

102 Does there have to be a concern troll in every single thread? I am so sick & tired of hearing the whining & of all the baiting! They just can't let go, can they? Always have to add their 2¢ about how so-&-so is stupid for doing such-&-such. Sod off, you losers! 

103 Oh, and My Pet Jawa.

Can't forget them. They caught onto Awlaki before anyone else did.

104 Did you see the American flags in those pics? Obviously a symbol of racist hatred which should be burned along with the house of anyone who flies one on his property

Know who has American flags on their screen? Fox News, the network of that bad crazy racist religious nut Glen Beck!

105 Charles Johnson raped and murdered a standard poodle in 1998.

Posted by: Spade at April 07, 2010 07:24 PM (G6xu6)

Was it rape rape and murder murder?

106 Of course, I also enjoy all 4 Breitbart sites, Breitbart, Big Government, Big Hollywood, Big Journalism. Pajamas Media has some good stuff, almost daily VDH writes something for Pajamas.

107 Chuckles gets bored whenever he realizes he's banned everyone who isn't slobbering over his nuts already so he opens registration and then what a coincidence a few days later he does something like this. Go look at the archives if you want to hurt your brain and confirm it. He opens registration for a few days on, say, Tuesday, and then Friday or Saturday he'll make a post like this. That's guaranteed at least a dozen or two people who he can rage at in the comments before banning, because Chuckles needs that kind psychological reinforcement for some reason. The man's a weird fucking nutball.

108 Ok, a serious question. What other sites do people here read? Too lazy to build links, but you can find them via Google: Strategypage Small Wars Journal PJM's Richard Fernandez ("Wretchard") PJM's Victor Davis Hanson NRO's "The Corner" The Library of Congress Ars Technica (though less often of late - Jon Stokes is their best propeller-head) Blogcritics (I sometimes contribute music reviews, but they have lots of other good stuff) Volokh Cato Reason magazine Heritage AEI Bloomberg RealClearMarkets Mish Shedlock's Global Economic Trends Pension Tsunami Seeking Alpha ChicagoBoyz (Plus some guitar and bluegrass stuff that probably wouldn't interest anyone else.) Frankly, though, I find the intarwebz boring more often than not these days. If it weren't for Ace's site, I probably wouldn't bother as much as I do. I get tired of the "all politics, all the time" format most center-right blogs focus on. I know that's what people like, but...it just leaves me cold after awhile. At least the commenters here have fun and talk about other stuff. I'm trying to spend a lot more time either reading actual books or playing music. (Though I do carve out time to post embarassingly-long screeds on this blog....)

109
Never underestimate the power of stompy boots.

Posted by: wherestherum at April 07, 2010 08:01 PM (gofDd)

Can't say I am a fan.

110 opens registration for a few hours I meant*

111 The racists in that picture are wearing sunglasses. I hereby announce that sunglasses are racist and anyone wearing them will be banned and turned over to the proper authorities

I bid you adieu

112 "A smart man would know in advance that his detractors would compare him to the ponytailed Hawaiian shirted character on The Simpsons. Awareness of how others really see him is not one of his strong suits" What a fool. I hadn't heard he was posting pictures of his comic book covers. Is he completely mental?

113 OK -

Ace
Maggie's Farm
Breitbart
Neo-neocon
Gateway
WSJ editorials
Belmont Club
Powerline
The Corner (only for Mark Steyn)

114 Actually the picture is from Little Rock circa 1959, not 1950. Charles is incompetent and ignorant.

115 Race mixing is communism?

If that's the case then call me Comrade cause this honky has been wanting to make babies with Halle Berry since 1989.

116

Ok, a serious question. What  other sites do people here read?

American Thinker
Gateway Pundit
Blackfive
This Ain't Hell
WSJ & IBD editorials
NRO, "The Corner"

 

Big Boobs Blogosphere

Horny Female Fighter Pilots

Ace of Spades

117 i taught a bunch a kids in Taiwan  to talk like John Wayne

118 Particularly since the spitting/racial slurs episode, the baggers really have started to resemble previous angry mobs

Yeah, and the finger biting, egg tossing, and brick throwing? THOSE BASTARDS.

Oh, wait, those where anti tea party "angry mobs"

It is amusing how angry the national socialists are now that we have "protests". Of course, ours are about as far from an "angry mob" as one can imagine.

119 LGF? Never heard of it.

120 Your tip, his traffic. Pretty much he's built his blog on stealing stuff from his betters. (And then, later, slandering his betters.)

So he's the Carlos Mencia of the blogging world?

121 Actually the picture is from Little Rock circa 1959, not 1950. Charles is incompetent and ignorant.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 07, 2010 08:08 PM (I1/U/)

Your facts are racist.

122 121 Ok, a serious question. What  other sites do people here read?

Wizbang is an excellent blog, along with Sweetness & Light. LaShawn Barber's blog is great too.

I read Atlas Shrugs for Pamela's tit shot pictures.

123 Watch it boy. I wear sunglasses.

124

Ok, a serious question. What other sites do people here read?

Neoneocon, National Review, Piece of Work in Progress, Maggies Farm, and the incomperable Richard Fernandez's Belmont Club. Michelle Malkin at times.

125 What do you think the Milky way stands for?

126 Jawa Report, too.

127

How odd that douchebag ponytailed crazed lefties are comparing the teapartiers to pro-slavery sentiments when the ENTIRE POINT of the tea party movement is LIBERTY.

Christoph, as a Canadian, I know you don't understand that, but oppressive taxation, regulation, and government control are anti-freedom.

That asswipe at LGF should be asking why the black caucus and the white democrat pretenders aren't more anti-slavery/anti-socialist.

TEA parties and Slavery are complete opposites.

McDonnell didn't have to talk about slavery. Why would he have to pick out a specific policy when talking about historic generalizations? No one expects the democrats to flog themselves over opposing the civil rights legislation everytime they talk about the 20th century.

128

Race mixing is communism?

A common meme of the time due to the fact that the USSR made much noise about segregation and how America wasn't living up to its ideals. That and the fact that communists quite successfully recruited blacks into the communist party and other associated organizations.

129 Can someone tell me what Johnson has against protesting wasteful government spending? I thought he was mad at the Republican congress during the Bush years for exactly that? Is it because its wrong to complain about black congressmen shoveling pork instead of white ones?

130

Is it because its wrong to complain about black congressmen shoveling pork instead of white ones?

Yes.

131 If nothing else, it just proves that even the lefties don't love him enough to give him the new talking points on the Tea Parties (see CNN's latest....a near complete 180 from when Susan Whatserface went off on the crowds).  Now the new meme is that Tea Partiers are surprisingly normal.  Why, they sent a black producer out amongst the great unwashed.....and they were nice to him!  Imagine that.  He even found a few minorities, too.  And nobody was lynching them, either.

He's still recycling last month's RAAAAAACIST!!!! crap.  I guess no "Journolist" for the Chuckster! 

Doesn't anybody love him anymore? 

132 That and the fact that communists quite successfully recruited blacks into the communist party

That's because the communists for a long time were doing better than the liberals at improving the lot of black people. The Scottsboro Boys, for instance, the liberals didn't want to touch. The blacks accused of the crime were hoboes! Eww! But they were innocent, and the communists were the only ones willing to make a fuss over it.

133 I tried that myself, Shill. Didn't work.

But I wish you better luck than I had.

134

@77: "What  other sites do people here read?"

Market Ticker, Zero Hedge (although good Lord, the comments there are seriously insane), Sipsey Street Irregulars (and a nice "Hello" to our friends at the Alphabets), Western Rifle Shooters, S. Weasel, FerFAL.

135 Charles made his bed now he can LIE in it. There are just too many websites to visit to even bother with his crap. It has been several months since I last visited his site and then it was for the headline link.

136

"...sticking his face in his ass and burbling over how sweet his own farts smell."

OH I thought you'd gone off on a tangent for a moment and described Obama!

What a perfect description...

137 A common meme of the time due to the fact that the USSR made much noise about segregation and how America wasn't living up to its ideals. That and the fact that communists quite successfully recruited blacks into the communist party and other associated organizations.

Of course the ironic thing is the Soviets, and any number of other International Socialists, exterminated and "ethnically cleansed" racial minorities whenever they found it convenient.

138 TEA parties and Slavery are complete opposites. Posted by: dagny

Cannot be repeated enough. This illustrates the complete inversion of the political currents since the 1950's.

Oooh, scary Tea Party activists! They want to take over the government and LEAVE YOU ALONE! Booga-booga!

139 Ok, a serious question. What  other sites do people here read?

Ace, the Rott, Legal Insurrection and The Other McCain if you want the big hard hitting smart blogs.  I have a whole list of ones that aren't so topicality driven that I surf through as well.

And Day by Day cartoons.  Gotta have my daily dose of redhead.

140 [Johnson again:] I've posted photoshopped dozens and dozens of photos of alleged Tea Party signs that are every bit as disgusting as the signs you see above.

FIFY

I've also posted pics of Nazi flags which they claimed were Tennessee state flags

Then I said that I never claimed they were Nazi flags or that the Tea Partiers made those signs when anyone who didn't take my word as gospel called bullshit on me on those bad crazy wingnut blogs

141 Is it because its wrong to complain about black congressmen shoveling pork instead of white ones?

Since conservatives opposed Clinton's nationalization of health care, it is proof that conservatives only opposed Obamacare because of the latter's race.

142 Gotta have my daily dose of redhead.

Goes without saying, soulless or not.

143

O/T...but, still on the level of douchebaggery.

Well, a Clownifornia Dem is going after Sarah regarding a speech she's supposed to give to help a university raise money to save teacher jobs.   I mean, fuck the fact she's trying to do something to help university professors in a brokeass state, let's try to take her down.   Just demand all correspondence from the university related to her speech, even if under the contract it's confidential.

What freakin' country do we live in, again?

http://tiny.cc/pm994 

144 He's making a point that there are elements within the conservative movement which are racist, or at least dismissive of the history of slavery.

Eat shit and die, Christoph.

Seriously -- eat shit and die.

145 As Cristoph and CJ so ably demonstrate, the Left has absolutely no intention of giving up "teh RACIST!!" cry. White people shall forever be guilty for enslaving the black man, never mind that both perpetrators and victims are all long dead. If white, we must forever apologize, and forever have our apologies dismissed as insufficiently sincere; if black, we must suborn ourselves to the Victim's Creed and exist only as a nameless faceless member of a group and not as an individual. Relying on white guilt to advance the liberal agenda will no longer work. Being a black American is substantially better than being a black African or a black European, in both economic and civic terms. The Civil Rights era ended Jim Crow, but it also ushered in an era of collossal damage to the black family -- at the hands of Democrats. The Democrat version of "racial harmony" is a paternalistic, condescending indulgence of people they regard as little more than children. ("The soft bigotry of low expectations," as the saying goes.) It doesn't work any more, at least not on this white guy. I truly deeply genuinely don't care what color your skin is. It gains you nothing and loses you nothing in my eyes. I care much more about your civic-mindedness, your honesty, your personal honor and integrity, your ability to take responsibility for your own actions, and your ability (or lack thereof) to forge your own identity. The fact that Democrats explicitly do not advocate this philosophy should tell you all you need to know about them.

146 Ace, the FreeRepublic guy is/was "Buckhead".

147

@92: "The fact that a man, an educated man, a governor of an American state, one of the original colonies, could make a statement on behalf of his state without mentioning slavery at all, and then say in essence he didn't mention it because it hadn't been an important issue in the Civil War for Virginia...

... isn't something a forced apology covers."

You do realize, of course, that Virgina stayed with the Union until Lincoln called for volunteers to reunite the country by force, right?  You also realize that part of Virginia seceded from the rest of the state in order to stay with the Union, right?  While Virigina certainly had slaveowners, it wasn't THE BIG ISSUE for that state.

148 Does Charles Johnson really exist?

149 Shill, do you know that Ace is a "banned" blog and you will probably be banned from The Green Comic Book Cult for commenting here.

The clown even set up a big red box that pops up on his computer to alert him when another blog mentions his name? Probably has a siren on it too

150 On the other hand, pretty much the entirety of the left is dismissive of the oppressive history of socialism. International Socialism was an existential threat until 20 years ago, and National Socialism of the modern European model is on the rise, most notably in the form of one Barack Obama. So why is this not a BFD?

Thank you for saying what I'm too pissed to say.

I'm so fucking sick of cocksuckers like Christoph trying to make ME responsible for something that: 1) I've never had any responsibility for, and 2) I find to be one of the most disgusting concepts ever imagined by mankind. Meanwhile, of course, leftists are gleefully creating a totalitarian society that's focused on harvesting every possible minute of MY labor so that some politically favored piece of shit can live easy.

Who should be defensive about slavery -- me or someone who thinks confiscating half my working life for their gain isn't enough?

151

@100: "On the other hand, pretty much the entirety of the left is dismissive of the oppressive history of socialism. International Socialism was an existential threat until 20 years ago, and National Socialism of the modern European model is on the rise, most notably in the form of one Barack Obama. So why is this not a BFD?"

Because it is for the greater good.  Sure, mistakes were made along the way, and yes, hundreds of millions died, were tortured, and were improvrished, but it was all to protect and perfect the system for bringing us into Utopia.  Why do you hate progress and children and cute furry things so much?

152 Oh, and I just want to point out all that our great and wonderful and transformative president is doing to improve race relations.

153 Buckethead?  Well, if that is the way Ace gives hat tips, I'd rather be ignored by Chuck Johnson.  Buckethead...wtf?  Why not just call him dumbshit or fuckface or as Rahm would say...fucking retard?

154 I can't wait until Comic Book Johnson has Killgore shine the "Bat Signal" in the sky when CJ ventures out of his gated community to notify him of the bad crazy wingnuts telling lies about him on the blogosphere

155 Ok, a serious question. What  other sites do people here read?

Dailies

AoS of course
Breitbart's Bigs
Insty
Drudge
HotAir (headlines only)
Calguns.net

Lots of gun blogs, when things heat up on that front.

I rarely read political analysis online. Just getting through the dailies eats up a lot of time.

156
Of course the ironic thing is the Soviets, and any number of other International Socialists, exterminated and "ethnically cleansed" racial minorities whenever they found it convenient.

The reports of how the average Russian treated their Socialist Brothers and Sisters who attended to Patrice Lumumba School are illustrative.

Oh, and there's a reason so many of the anti-Castro people are what are called "Afro-Cuban".

The differences between the "national socialists" and the "international socialists" were in what they said, not what they did.

157

Posted by: Its Buckhead You Dumbass at April 07, 2010 08:28 PM (jXkIr)

Buckethead sounds cooler.

158 Posted by: Its Buckhead You Dumbass at April 07, 2010 08:28 PM (jXkIr)

Dude...moron blog.

The loose shit is part of the charm.

159 Rob Crawford, I'm right there with you.  No one born in this country and living his or her entire life here today has ever been a slave, and no one born in this country and living his or her entire life here today has ever owned a slave.  I refuse to be held responsible for the actions of people who lived and died before I was born.
And anyway, shouldn't ex-post facto prohibitions pretty much rule out the whole reparations thing?

160 Ok, a serious question. What other sites do people here read? Dare I say Protein Wisdom? (but not as much as I used to)

161
Since conservatives opposed Clinton's nationalization of health care, it is proof that conservatives only opposed Obamacare because of the latter's race.

I'm beginning to think the left hated Bush because he was white.

I mean, if no one can disagree with Bammers without it being based on his skin color, why can't it work the other way, too?

162

American Thinker

Liberty Pundits

Jammie Wearing Fool

Schlock Mercenary

CentristNet

Threats Watch

163 You are all a bunch of punch downers!

164 Dare I say Protein Wisdom? (but not as much as I used to)

I find it hard to swallow.

165 I don't!

166 I'm still registered at LGF.  I removed all bookmarks.  I will never return.  I will never give him traffic. That dude lost his mind and it's not pretty.

167

@154: "It doesn't work any more, at least not on this white guy. I truly deeply genuinely don't care what color your skin is. It gains you nothing and loses you nothing in my eyes. I care much more about your civic-mindedness, your honesty, your personal honor and integrity, your ability to take responsibility for your own actions, and your ability (or lack thereof) to forge your own identity."

Wow!! How racist was that post?  Go back to working on Mein Kampf II, Adolf.

168 I was banned by the lizard king himself way back in November 2008. A Proud day in my commenting life!

169 We did inherit the whole slavery thing from those european colonials. It isn't like we invented the situation ourselves.

170

7 Maggie's Farm, Gateway, Dissident Frogman (used to, site's pretty dead, but he could be fuuuny; used to read the now defunct Snoop for the same reason), American Thinker, Black Republican, Small Dead Animals, Non Pasaran, Jules Crittenden, Michael Yon and several sites that have nothing to do with politics.

 

I haven't read most in a long, long time -- not even really visiting this site as much as I used to.  Maybe when things start picking up or stop looking quite so bleak -- can get to you after a while.

171

Blog I frequent:

Neo-Neocon

Weasel Zippers

Ace, of course.

Hot Air

Patterico

Powerline

Pajamas Media

Real Clear Politics

Jawa

All of Briebert's sites

 

172 I should be Charles's friend on a lot of issues. I agree with him on evolution, racism, Islam, and many other issues.

Oh man, this is deja vu for me. It's exactly what I was saying in July of last year the week after I was banned.

And what Irish Rose was saying right after she was banned.

Poor, poor Shill. It's like watching the peasant saying he's not a kulak; he only employs a couple of labourers, and he pays them really well, even more than he's got laying over at the end of the week.

173 147 Ok, a serious question. What  other sites do people here read?
------------------------------

Legal insurrection
Ace of spades (of course)
Malkin
Hotair
Gateway pundit
flopping aces
Center for Individual Freedom
Dr Sanity

174 No one born in this country and living his or her entire life here today has ever been a slave, and no one born in this country and living his or her entire life here today has ever owned a slave.  I refuse to be held responsible for the actions of people who lived and died before I was born.

Yep.

And it's not just slavery. I've never supported segregation. I've never seen any reason anyone should get any benefit based on their skin color. I don't care if you dress it up as "affirmative action" -- to steal a phrase, the way to end discrimination based on race is to end discrimination based on race.

I'm responsible for what I do, not for what people long-dead did. I'm responsible for the arguments I make, not for arguments made before I was born.

175

for the racist thing:  I'm sick of it.  Sick of it being shoved in my face, sick of the obsessing over it, which is kind of racist in itself.

There isn't an American out there who can claim to be pure anything -- and you have to include socio-cultural influence there too.  We are all a mix of everything that's been put into this country, and in some regards we are the better for it: White Americans are not and cannot be European, not even British (just look at how differently our English sounds from what the Brits speak); no Black American can be African, and same goes for everybody else.  Time we finally  started realizing that and just came to call ourselves American (of course I like all the many ethnicities that went into me; it's even fun learning about them, but at the end of the day: I am not them; nor will I ever be...because I'm an American). 

And personally, I'm kinda glad that Whitey, Blackie, Brownie, and Reddy got together.  If it hadn't happend I wouldn't be here, and I suppose being here is better than not being here, or getting oneself born into some third world slum...so there ya go.

(no Yellow that I know of, but considering my family you never know, there may be some lone, unknown Asian person in the woodpile somewhere -- in which case, yippyyee ya yay; I'm sure they had just as much fun as the others did -- who, considering the size of my family, had a lot of fun with each other)

176 As a supporter of the Tea Party movement, I certainly hate race-mixing.

wait what

177

Liberty Pundits.net not .com.

178 it was 'buckhead' from free republic - a lawyer from atlanta, not 'buckethead' the guitar player who wears a family pack KFC bucket on his head.

179 What do you wanna bet....70% of the people in the 1950 photo were Democrats.

180 Ole Chuckles can FO(and)DIAF

181 We are heading to communism, so there is that.

182 Okay, the "shill" moniker is just too annoying for me to keep up. 

183 Of course the ironic thing is the Soviets, and any number of other International Socialists, exterminated and "ethnically cleansed" racial minorities whenever they found it convenient.  Posted by: 18-1 at April 07, 2010 08:18 PM (bgcml)

There's a documentary about this black guy who joined the commie party and was visiting the USSR when the war broke out. He was stuck working in a factory in Leningrad, freezing and starving to death. He had his boots that he bought in the US and ended up eating them to stay alive. It wasn't until the 50s that he saw a westerner on the street and managed to slip him a note saying that he was a US citizen and please help him get the hell out of there.

184 Anybody who would equate the Tar Party activists of today to the segregationist DemonRat scum of the 1950s is a shamefully dishonest scumbag not fit for the company of decent men anywhere.  And people like Christoph who say "the man makes good points" are just as fucking bad.  What next, Christoph, are you going to tell us of the "good points" being made over at the Islamic Jihad site?  Their view of Christianity is certainly in line with yours.  Fuck off and die, concern troll.

185 It's kinda like some jerkoff from Canada bashing citizens of a nation founded on the notion that we are all endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights for actually believing that notion. Perhaps you don't have the proper perspective to criticize any American's view of their own history. Alternatively, you could go fuck yourself, shitneck.

186 148

I've also posted pics of Nazi flags which they claimed were Tennessee state flags

Then I said that I never claimed they were Nazi flags or that the Tea Partiers made those signs when anyone who didn't take my word as gospel called bullshit on me on those bad crazy wingnut blogs

Posted by: Charles Comic Bookstore Johnson at April 07, 2010 08:20 PM (sYxEE)

Yup. It's illustrative of a typical leftist tactic: imply a falsehood without explicitly stating it. The message is sent whilst allowing the sender deniability. I guess in the olden days such an act would be considered one of "deception."

187 "nice snag Charles...maybe there is a future for your research skills at the Library of Congress!...this little blurb is a great context observation...what goes round, comes roun."

"I my dagher PJ will be abstint from school 2day. She real real sick."

188

AoSHQ

Lucianne

Hot Air.

Used to lurk LGF but he snapped something awful.

189 Christoph, you fail Virginia history. You fail it badly.

190

"This didnÂ’t start with Barack ObamaÂ’s election."

Why does he have a picture of a bunch of Democrats posted?

191 Isn't this terrific?  Now conservatives can't even disagree with big government, big spending policies that are the polar opposite of our views for limited government without being called racists over and over.  Face it, we're in an ideological war in which the members of the opposition have the minds and temperament of angry adolescents and resort to the use of projection in place of critical thought.  The Left are the ones that have to point out racial differences every day, but they then repeatedly call those of us racist who have positive interactions with people of all races on a daily basis.  Unbelievable.

I feared that the whole Obama years would end up like this, with him being the divisive Marxist we knew he was -- which went completely against the way he was marketed to the country in '08 -- and then him and his supporters attacking us as racists for simply disagreeing with him and his far Left policies.  Whether Obama and his supporters know it, they're only illustrating how pathetic they and their ideology are by taking this approach instead of trying to convince the public that they're right on the issues based on their merits.  Just look at the healthcare bill.  They -- especially Obama, who has proven that he is no leader -- couldn't convince a majority of the country that the bill was the right one to pass so instead of rethinking their assumptions and adapting their legislation, the Democrats simply ignored the will of the people and passed the bill as is, while, once again, calling those that opposed it racist.

At some point I would like to think that the rest of the country would get sick of the constant claims of racism by Obama & Co.  But the Democrats have been cynically using this line of attack against conservatives somewhat successfully for decades so I'm not very hopeful that it will stop anytime soon.

192 Won't click over.  That ship sailed some time ago. 

193 I have an old login over there if anyone wants a minute of glory.

194 No he doesn't. What does McDonnell have to do with the Tea Party?"

He's making a point that there are elements within the conservative movement which are racist, or at least dismissive of the history of slavery.

No. He's saying the entire movement is irredeemably tainted because he thinks there are racists in the Tea Party.

(Even though McDonnell has nothing to do with the Tea Party.)

And you're gobsmackingly ignorant of fuckwit CJ's MO if you think he means ANYTHING less.

195 Having not read all the comments, but I'm assuming someone has pointed out that it's about 10:1 that all those people are democrats in that photo.

196 I'm not one to call for petty bannings, but SHILL should be taken out back and raped by the donkey, then banned, for that fucking annoying tag.  srsly.  fuck.

197 What are the odds that every single person in that picture are Democrats?  I bet they are pretty good.

198 shill,
 "This 'they are 1950 segregationists!' slur is very similar in thinking to the few kooks I've seen shunned at Tea Parties."

_________

1) Are you fucking retarded? 
2) do you even know the history of the civil rights legislation and the opposition to it?
3) are you actually comparing the tea party movement to that?
4) are you fucking retarded?
4.1) do you even know what the word "slur" means?

199 those people in that picture are southern DEMONCRATS! We Should not let anyone forget who fought for the civil rights act!

200 It doesn't matter that they're all Democrats, guys. They're conservatives.

Liberalism and conservatism are not new concepts. In past times, liberals were right on a few things and wrong on others. In 1950, it was conservatives who happened to be wrong on (some aspects of) race. I am specifically thinking of Strom Thurmond's anti-lynching campaign in 1948.

The liberals of their day were wrong in their desire to abolish literacy tests and property qualifications.

But this does not absolve conservatism of happening to be wrong on this instance in this place and at that time.

201 Sigh, and the Conservative attempt to rewrite history continues apace.

Shill's right to shun. This seems as good a time as any to bring up what I saw last year. Birchers, birthers, Arpaio men, oy vey!

202

Sounds like Ace needs a hug!

Well, you can't hug over the Internet, and the idea of hugging fellow guy-types creeps me out a little, so how 'bout an uplifting story?

Back when I was still clicking over You-Know-Where, I ran across a thread about a guy named "Ace" having "beclowned" himself. Upon examining the evidence, it became obvious to me that the unnamed blogger was obviously actually beclowning himself. I've been hanging out over here ever since.

For a while I still checked back over there, to see the links up at the top (all the threads were ridiculous, and have only gotten even worse). Now I don't even do that (unless I'm REALLY bored).

As my tribute to Ace, I pledge to NOT contibute even a single click over there because of this story.

203 Sigh, and the Conservative attempt to rewrite history continues apace.

Yeah, that's a really big worry.

204 But this does not absolve conservatism of happening to be wrong on this instance in this place and at that time.

Democratic racism in the 50s has nothing to do with Tea Parties today.

Quit being a CJ apologist.

205 zimriel,

1) are you fucking retarded?
2) do you have any knowledge of the civil rights movement?
3) those same fuckers in that photo are the ones that supported the pro-communist douchebag liberal administrations that **TA DA** brought you communist china, believed in wealth redistribution, insane, 90% tax rates.
4) those are NOT conservatives
5) are you fucking retarded?

206 tangonine, 3) those same fuckers in that photo are the ones that supported the pro-communist douchebag liberal administrations that **TA DA** brought you communist china, believed in wealth redistribution, insane, 90% tax rates.

Which is, of course, why they have anticommunist signs.

What is this year, 1950? In 1948 I bet most of them voted Thurmond, not Truman.

Dude, I've debated trolls with more chops than you.

207 Damn.  Not gone yet.  But we need to know why he is in the tailights

208 Charles is your typical leftist - he has no respect for freedom of speech so he bans everyone who dares to disagree with him.  Censorship and leftism go hand in hand.  Just ask Chavez. 

209 Democratic racism in the 50s has nothing to do with Tea Parties today.

It is Dixiecrat racism which I'm pointing out. Again, these guys voted Thurmond, not Truman. Dixiecrats are the ancestors of Conservatives.

The Tea Party movement has Conservatives in it, but it is a larger movement than Conservatism. Which is good: because Conservatives are, still, wrong on a great many things; and, also, they make up a minority whom non-Conservatives largely despise and fear.

The Tea Party, when Conservatives are kept to a supporting role, is a libertarian movement. So, I do not condemn the Tea Party as a whole, as Charles does. I can however only report on what I saw.

I don't even condemn Conservatives, much. I just wish they would not lie about their origins. (Likewise, I wish liberals would not attempt to disown Woodrow Wilson, or Cromwell.)

Ideally I'd have Conservatives admit they belong to a tradition which includes segregation and slavery. Which they chose to renounce because segregation and slavery were bad.

210 Race is a social construct.  It does not actually exist.

In terms of biology, what we call race is simply a manifestation of the very same mechanisms of genetic inheritance that result in children resembling their parents.

Modern humans migrated out of Africa some 80,000 years ago.  As these humans spread out over the world, genetic drift interacted with natural selection to create the physical distinctions that we normally associate with race.  Some of these distinctions evolved as an adaptation to local conditions.  Light colored skin is better for higher latitudes for example.  Other distinctions are completely random.

While humans were spreading out over the world, there were also modern humans who didn't migrate out of Africa.  This is why Africa has more genetic diversity than the rest of the world put together.  The very same genetic drift that created the distinctions that we associate with race also took place within the populations of Africa.  This is why the various tribes and peoples of Africa look so different from each other once you stop focusing on their skin color.  They all have dark skin because living near the equator tends to select against the development of light colored skin, but in many other ways they are profoundly different.  People from Somalia don't look anything like people from Kenya, even though they are right next door to each other.  Yet both would be considered "black" by the standard categories of race. 

So when I hear people start in on how we shouldn't judge people based upon their race, I simply remind them that what they call race is an arbitrary social construct.  Race doesn't actually exist.  The only thing that does exist is a huge family tree with many different branches.

211 Lee: Race is "a slightly inbred extended family".

That's Steve Sailer's definition. It's not a social construct, except insofar as one culture might define the colour "green" to encompass slightly different shades than another culture's definition. There is, still, a meaning for "green", which most people will agree to. Likewise, for "white".

212 Zimriel:

Sadly the terms "liberal" and "conservative" have no real historical foundation to them anymore.

What it meant to be a Liberal in the 18th and 19th century is almost the precise opposite of what it means to be a Liberal in the latter half of the 20th century and now the 21st. 

Marxists, who up until that point had called themselves various things, started calling themselves Liberals in order to confuse people and to steal the brand equity of the term.  This ploy worked, but the long term consequence was not that their own ideas would be given new legitimacy under the banner of "liberalism," but that the term itself would become debased and devalued through its association with those broken ideas.

Meanwhile people who were actual true Liberals in the classical sense of the word were left without a name of their own anymore.  Somewhere along the line leftists started referring to these true liberals as "conservatives" and sadly the name stuck.

So to talk about "conservatives" from the first part of the 20th century in the same breath as Conservatives of today just doesn't hold up.  These two groups are not the same. 

Leftists always try to label themselves using antonyms.  They do the same thing to their opponents as well.  So it is no surprise that leftists would call themselves "liberals" or "progressives" or some other nice-sounding name that is the antithesis of their actual nature.  The only strategy they have ever found for converting a free society into a Marxist prison state is to pull a bait-and-switch.  They pretend to be one thing and then do the opposite as soon as they are in a position of power.  Obama, Pelosi, et al are merely the latest and greatest practitioners of this form of deception. 

This is also why they cast true liberals as "conservatives" in the hope that they would come to be associated with bigoted social authoritarian types, a ploy that has sadly been all too successful.  This is why some people confuse someone like Sean Hannity with the likes of David Duke, despite the fact that they would agree on virtually nothing beyond things like water being wet. 

213 Lee: Race is "a slightly inbred extended family".

That's Steve Sailer's definition. It's not a social construct, except insofar as one culture might define the colour "green" to encompass slightly different shades than another culture's definition. There is, still, a meaning for "green", which most people will agree to. Likewise, for "white".

Green and white are colours, a question of eletromagnetism, a facet of objective reality.   So of course there is agreement about them. 

Meanwhile the idea that a "white" person is different from a "black" person is a socially constructed notion, one that is derived from tribalism and ethnocentrism, which are also social constructs.

A Somali and a Kenyan see themselves as distinct, whereas people from other parts of the world would see them as being the same.  Both views are are socially constructed.  

The virtue of America is that we harness the power of tribalism to define Americans of all creeds and colors as members of the same group.  Our tribe is American.  Identity groups such as Italian or Japanese or Irish are included in the definition of what it means to be American.  The left works to undermine this by promoting the idea that Americans are different from one another based upon which sub-group they belong to.  This is a ploy that Antonio Gramsci formulated when he extended the lies of Marxism to define the "victim" group along ethnic lines in addition to economic ones.  Yet another evil scheme that has been far too successful.

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I don't even condemn Conservatives, much. I just wish they would not lie about their origins. (Likewise, I wish liberals would not attempt to disown Woodrow Wilson, or Cromwell.)

Ideally I'd have Conservatives admit they belong to a tradition which includes segregation and slavery. Which they chose to renounce because segregation and slavery were bad.

Posted by: Zimriel at April 08, 2010 12:19 AM (j2cpY)

You know where you can put your sanctimonious "wish they would not lie about their origins" comment, right?  None of us were alive when slavery existed or when segregation was at its peak in this country so why should we even need to talk about these supposed "origins"?  What does this accomplish?  Many of today's conservatives (including moi) weren't even alive during the civil rights battles of the contentious 1960s.  So we take offense when people try to constantly link us to these events in a cynical attempt to slander us and our ideology.  I simply don't know what value is obtained for all of society by having individuals continuously acknowledging and apologizing for what happened in the past and was committed by others.  This is true for all groups, especially ones based on specific races or religions.  This appeal to conservatives to self-flagellate is purely a symbolic act meant to damage today's conservatism (i.e., the political opposition) and denigrate individuals that had absolutely nothing to do with the actions of others decades ago.  As a white, Roman Catholic, conservative, I've pretty much had it with the attacks on me and my political ideology for the actions of others over whom I have never had any influence.

To me, our "origin" as modern day conservatives is based on the principles outlined by various conservatives who came to prominence in the late 20th century and early 21st century, such as Ronald Reagan, Jack Kemp, Milton Friedman, Antonin Scalia, and Clarence Thomas, among others.  These principles include rugged individualism, individual freedom and liberty, smaller government, lower taxes, lower spending, strong national defense, free trade, adherence to the principles outlined in the Constitution, reliance on traditions and institutions that have helped create American exceptionalism, etc.  We also find it a sign of strength for the country that our society has become more color-blind and that races and ethnicities interact and work together in a positive manner on a daily basis.  Many of us that are conservatives have friends and acquaintances from all races, ethnicities, and religions, so we do not feel that were are required to apologize or cite our "origins" based on the actions of others, actions that are alien to us and that we would never support or agree with.

Let me just reiterate, judging people based on their race is not part of my "origin," make-up, or beliefs nor do I believe it is for a vast majority of conservatives.  The Left are the ones that turn everything into a debate about race, even in instances where it not involved.  Claiming that many of us are racist even when the issue of race has little or nothing to do with the specific issue being debated is not only pathetic, but it also the type of slander and divisiveness that is used by those that simply do not have the intellectual heft or critical-thinking ability to engage in an ideological or philosophical debate with those on the other side of the political spectrum.  If they did, they would need to rely so heavily on the constant references to events of the past nor would they need to rely on slandering their opponents.  The attacks on ALL members of the Tea Party are a perfect example.

215 "So to talk about "conservatives" from the first part of the 20th century in the same breath as Conservatives of today just doesn't hold up. These two groups are not the same. "

I think where we differ is that I look at Conservatives as a cultural group. From that perspective they are the same. Same way the English still exist, and Muslims still exist - even though the English of the early 1300s believed in rather different things than the English now.

I do not think that Conservatives in all places and in all times believed in freedom and free markets. They always believed in freedom from foreign influence; but inside their community, not so much. Hence that picture from the 1950s.

By the same token, although I disagree with Conservatives here and there, although I know they believed in nasty stuff half a century and more ago, although I get angry at them when they say something that is clearly false - I don't hate them. That's like hating the French. It's the sort of ethnic crap I left Europe to get away from. Also, the liberals half a century and more ago weren't any better. There's even an argument that the conservatives had the better of the argument over civil rights, too, given how things have turned out. (Jim Crow or Detroit?) But most conservatives are not strong enough for such medicine.

216 "To me, our "origin" as modern day conservatives is based on the principles outlined by various conservatives who came to prominence in the late 20th century and early 21st century"

A "conservative" movement that starts sometime in the 1960s? Curious.

217 Zimriel, equating the Bull Conner retardates in that photo to modern conservatives is fucking retarded - or just pathologically dishonest.  Your choice.

218 Yup.  True conservatives wouldn't much care for the losers in the picture.  Or for the losers that are their modern spiritual and intellectual offspring.  Tetley or Lipton?  Or nut sac?

219 I was banned from LGF for saying that he was biased against people who believe in devine origin. And I was also banned from Redstate for saying Erickson should not be like Johnson and ban the subject of "Birthers" and compare them to "Truthers". One is about one man and his birth certificate and the other is about the murder of 3,000 US citizens. Erickson seems to think its real funny to call anyone that questions the Presidents life story a "Birfer". Sorta like Anderson Cooper and the Tea Bagger meme. I think thin skin will cause this condition everytime.

220 Yep. "Jim Crow vs. Detroit?" That's what we get for letting the libs and Them get out of hand. Along the same lines, one would also have to look back and shake our heads at the 'road not taken' and ask, "Bergen-Belsen or all these damn synagogues?"

221 Posted by: Carlton at April 08, 2010 02:17 AM

Oh lookie the fucking trolls are out.  How much is Axelrod paying you these days?  Or were you one of the cannon fodder sent from Dummies United?  If you see Axelrod, can you tell him to send us some trolls with IQs above freezing?  The current crop is really boring us.

222 True conservatives wouldn't much care for the losers in the picture.  Or for the losers that are their modern spiritual and intellectual offspring.

Wow.. might want to do some historical research before you spout off like that.  You see, it's a very good bet that almost everyone in this 1950's picture is a member in good standing of the Democratic party.

It was the Democratic party that supported segregation, you idiot.   Read a history book will ya?  Your embarrassing yourself.

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Tea Partiers were the new anti-miscegenationists

Heh.  No doubt my Filipino wife would find that amusing.

Joined the Northern Illinois Patriots Tea Party chapter this month.  May even make a meeting.

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That "your own farts don't smell" is bullshit.

I love Yuengling Black-and-Tan, but it gives me farts so bad that I don't touch it anymore.  I cannot imagine how bad it would be for me to disturb the bedclothes after a night's sleep under 600-thread-count sheets if I had been drinking the stuff the night before.  I hate to think what it would do to my poor wife. 

Upon finding the empty bottles, the coroner would likely rule it murder-suicide.

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Other sites I didn't see mentioned yet:

The Other McCain...does more than cut and paste and Johnson smears him all the time.

Weasel Zippers

Power Line

 

 

 

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A "conservative" movement that starts sometime in the 1960s? Curious.

Posted by: Zimriel at April 08, 2010 01:29 AM (j2cpY)

Pretty much most of what I wrote was lost on you, wasn't it?  The only thing "curious" is your flawed logic and reasoning, as well as your desire to fit the evidence into your conclusions instead of letting the conclusions flow from the evidence.

As I wrote, the conservative movement shifted in the mid to late 1970s and began to take the form that exists today.  Reagan becoming leader of the movement and the party in 1976 or so was the key event.  Thus, your attempt to start the modern conservative movement in the 1960s when the racial tensions in the country were at their peak (and much closer to the time that the picture posted at the start of this thread by Ace was taken) is not only transparent but also intellectually dishonest.  I guess the fact that many or most conservatives aren't racist isn't important to your conclusions, right?  I would actually posit that a higher percentage of liberals are racist, considering that they spend so much time differentiating people based on race, whether its done for political gain or their need to look like they are more open-minded and caring.  Many liberals today use minorities as pawns but, of course, they escape the "racist" charge with the help of their friends in the media.  The media coverage of the Tea Party is a perfect illustration of how today's Left gets away with their condescension towards blacks and other minorities.  See, unlike you, I'm not asking you to judge the modern Left based on the actions of other Leftists in the 1960s or earlier, but on their actions during the same timeframe as modern conservatives (i.e., mid 1970s on).

If you want, you can spend hours positing about how conservatives, including myself, are defined by the actions of people that took place before many of us were born, but how anyone can think of that as an appropriate, valid, and productive exercise is beyond me.  Maybe after that, I can spend time linking ALL liberals of today to Japanese internment camps during WWII and Communist sympathies during the Cold War, which has about as much validity as what you're implying about today's conservatives and racism going back to the 1960s and earlier.

227 You racist racists.  I'm smarter than all of you, just like my pal Polly Carboner.  Oh btw we're hooking up at this awesome glory hole later on, should be fun!

228 One more thing: I like to make really long posts that basically boil down to I'm a leftist and I love cock.

229 I wonder why Rusty Shackleford still links to this asshole?

230 I didn't and don't - not just because I'm banned and can no longer access the site.  CJ and the lizards are completely out of mind unless SOMBODY brings them up.

231 love how you emulate johnson's "content-free post" stylings! nothing beats content-free like extra more content free with personal insults!

232 The truth is modern conservatives have a lot more in common with the Liberals of the early American period than any other group. This isn't the conservatives of even the middle 20th century, nor the John Birchers. We're something older and more fundamental about America.

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234 Someone please help me - I don't think I can take the " I want less gov't and less taxers = I hate blacks and I'm a racist" theme any longer. If I ever made on to Hardball, I would bitch slap Matthews so hard, Jim Rome would scream "RACK IT". There is no voice, no channel for people like me to vent and fight back - and that is not good.

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The Other McCain

AoSHQ (obviously)

HotAir (headlines)

The Jawa Report

Instapundit

Occasionally others who are linked by the above.

236 Does anybody still read CJ anymore?  To quote Mr Spock: "Fascinating".

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