June 09, 2010

Taliban Now Packing IEDs With HIV-Infected Syringes, Razors
— Ace

Is this real? Or is this their claim, in order to reduce our troops' morale?

And if it's real -- where are they getting hospital needles from, exactly, and how do we kill the people selling them?

British troops risk being infected with HIV as Taliban fighters are hiding contaminated needles with their bombs.

Heroin syringes as well as razor blades are being buried in the ground by insurgents in Afghanistan so that they prick bomb squad experts.

It is believed that the needles, used in Helmand province, are contaminated with hepatitis and HIV as the Taliban use increasingly 'despicable' tactics.

Protective Kevlar gloves have been issued to all Royal Engineer and Royal Logistic Corps bomb search teams.

Conservative MP Patrick Mercer, a former Army officer, exposed the tactic. ‘Are there no depths to which these people will stoop?’ he told the Sun.

‘This is the definition of a dirty war.’

At some point, the nukes are going to fly, and I'm going to be okay with that.

Al Qaeda Hoax? Commenters Ed and old dirty b/tard say the HIV virus is fragile and dies quickly outside a living human host and say there's no way to store it for long periods. Ed says it dies 20 minutes outside the body.


Posted by: Ace at 01:55 PM | Comments (429)
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1 Let's deal with these guys.

Posted by: Barack Obama at June 09, 2010 01:56 PM (cMo6P)

2 Where do they get the syringes contaminated with HIV?  There are no gays or drug addicts in the Muslim world.  Are they purchasing them from Pelosi?

Posted by: kathysaysso at June 09, 2010 01:58 PM (ZtwUX)

3 Well, we've finally found whose ass to kick.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 09, 2010 01:58 PM (0QJjg)

4

Is this to Mean the Presidents, thoughtful words, bows and expressions of solidarity are not working with the very sad, misunderstood terrorist disaster men?

surprise!

Posted by: willow at June 09, 2010 01:59 PM (HyUIR)

5 I leaning in the direction that it's bullshit.

Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at June 09, 2010 01:59 PM (YVZlY)

6 BS detector is kicking in. Where the fuck are they getting the needles, unless the Taliban got tired of fucking goats and started fucking each other. But I thought that was a capital crime with the Taliban. Bullshit, wouldn't put it past them to do some bad shit, but not this.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 09, 2010 01:59 PM (nxUYP)

7 They should have flown on 9/12/01. No one would have given a shit.

Posted by: Andy at June 09, 2010 01:59 PM (NjN7i)

8 No, it's called war and war has no rules.  Silly us for thinking that there are any.  I look forward to when we move to the right of Ghenghis Khan as far as prosecuting this war.  But I also know that it'll never happen.  So we'll flounder around for a few more years, try to win hearts and minds, give out medals for restraint and then lose it.  God, only Western mangina thinking could cook up this type of a war strategy...

Posted by: Mat at June 09, 2010 02:00 PM (d8AS2)

9

That's how I got the Anal Gonorhea!

 

Posted by: Adam Ghadan at June 09, 2010 02:00 PM (ucNJU)

10

kathysayso, interesting question.

africa has quite an epidemic sadly, are they stealing their hazardous waste?

Posted by: willow at June 09, 2010 02:00 PM (HyUIR)

11

B.S. detector is at 10 on this story.

But, just in case, can we kill them all NOW?

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at June 09, 2010 02:01 PM (oIp16)

12 This is clearly a cry for help.  We need a needle exchange program. 

Posted by: BO at June 09, 2010 02:02 PM (0K3p3)

13

Where do they get the syringes contaminated with HIV?

Hello?

Posted by: Africa! at June 09, 2010 02:02 PM (ucNJU)

14 are they stealing their hazardous waste?

Not sophisticated enough. No, maybe chemical weapon or some derivative thereof, but not this.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 09, 2010 02:02 PM (nxUYP)

15 Certainly this is the work of my cousin, Extremey Taliban!

Posted by: Moderatey Taliban at June 09, 2010 02:03 PM (ucNJU)

16

Easy. Tell them we rub bacon all over our bombs and bullets.

That'll drive 'em crazy. Well, crazier.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 09, 2010 02:03 PM (LG/SZ)

17 I'm worried I might have an STD; can you look at my penis? Okay, can you now look at my penis with a noose around it? Okay, how about my penis now dressed in a sun-dress with a bonnet?

Posted by: Alvin Greene at June 09, 2010 02:04 PM (66DVY)

18

i shoudl look up how many poor souls now have aids in america

 uganda has succeeded in reducing hiv.

 

Posted by: willow at June 09, 2010 02:04 PM (HyUIR)

19 Syringes or not, I'm fine with nuking these bastards back to the Stone Age...

I mean, back to caveman times.

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 09, 2010 02:04 PM (c0A3e)

20 Frankly, this seems more typical than exceptional in the larger al Quaeda playbook.

Posted by: nickless at June 09, 2010 02:05 PM (MMC8r)

21 of course the fact that any explotion (heat, fire, etc) would prob'ly destroy any HIV infected needle goes right over their towel wrapped pointy heads? (pun intended)

Posted by: dutch508 at June 09, 2010 02:05 PM (vxNuj)

22

Samuel, thanks for the answer.

maybe iran, syria have stockpiles of infectious they are sharing

Posted by: willow at June 09, 2010 02:05 PM (HyUIR)

23

At some point, the nukes are going to fly, and I'm going to be okay with that.

Yeah.  For now, we could lightly powder their caves and villages with plutonium dust.

Posted by: rdbrewer at June 09, 2010 02:05 PM (a8JvO)

24 Conservative MP Patrick Mercer, a former Army officer, exposed the tactic. ‘Are there no depths to which these people will stoop?’ he told the Sun.

‘This is the definition of a dirty war.’

Did someone see the Taliban as having high morals or something? If I were to be surprised here, it would be the capability and resources of the Taliban, not how dirty they fight.

Posted by: Z Ryan at June 09, 2010 02:05 PM (cMo6P)

25 Have we ever used the "love bomb"?

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 09, 2010 02:06 PM (c0A3e)

26 I believe this tactic originated in South Carolina.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at June 09, 2010 02:06 PM (pEK05)

Posted by: GWAR! at June 09, 2010 02:06 PM (ucNJU)

28 hell, my husband said we should send what i cooked for last nights dinner to them express, that would teach them.

Posted by: willow at June 09, 2010 02:06 PM (HyUIR)

29 Beck was talking about this today, and said it's time to make pig bombs.  Seriously, send those evil fucks to their own special hell.

Meanwhile, Preznit "Kick Ass" is probably busy scheduling his weekend golf game. 

Where's my damned duct tape to keep my head on my shoulders?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 09, 2010 02:07 PM (UOM48)

30 I know Obama has changed our policy on this, but we used to keep nukes on the table in response to biological warfare.

And this is a war with Iran.

If Iran nuked Israel or even New York, though, I would bet my life Obama wouldn't nuke them back.  So it's a completely moot point.  We are not in Afghanistan to win.  It's a lot like Vietnam. 

1: Leave the warzone because we won the war

2: Stay in the warzone in order to win

3: Leave the warzone because we lost

4: Stay in the warzone because Obama doesn't want to look bad, but without playing to win the war.

That's my ranking of our options.

I will sadly pick 3 over 4.  We need to get the hell out of Afghanistan.  We might as well just build a fortress with a runway for drones and keep our troops out of the action.  We aren't winning, and that's why it's not in the news much.

Posted by: Lex Luthor, Ruler of Australia at June 09, 2010 02:07 PM (dUOK+)

31 You know, I'm kind of a big deal here in Kabul, and let me assure the U.S. that in no uncertain terms are the Taliban (peace be upon them) using AIDS tainted syringes in our their IED's. Trust me. Allahu Ackbar!

Posted by: Hamid Karzai at June 09, 2010 02:08 PM (nxUYP)

32 And the viruses have bees in their mouths.

And the bees are sharks.

And the sharks are swarms of tiny robot sharks.

And the robot sharks are bees.

Posted by: oblig. at June 09, 2010 02:08 PM (x7Ao8)

33 What does the Geneva Convention say about this? Oh wait, it doesn't matter because these goat fuckers don't abide by the Geneva Convention.

Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at June 09, 2010 02:08 PM (YVZlY)

34

At some point, the nukes are going to fly, and I'm going to be okay with that.

I agree, and me too. I'm picturing a scenario in 3 or four years where the Allies quietly remove all of the civilians from an area of Afghanistan. Then flash-boom-mushroom-whoosh.

What do you think would happen after that? I mean (and no snark here) those two nukes really made Japan come to its senses. It might actually bring the world together on the good guys' side. But if there are any bad guys left and they set off a nuke here, some Americans will cry "we started it," "fair game,"  "an eye for an eye," etc.

Posted by: FireHorse at June 09, 2010 02:08 PM (cQyWA)

35

Yeah, yeah, HIV isn't just a "gay" disease. Fine. But, with the rampant homosexuality in the Muslim world. And with the surplus of filthy assholes to be found there - this story really, probably isn't all that far-fetched. Oh, hell, who gives a shit.

It's just fun insinuating that a bunch of jiahdis are pickle-biters.

 

Posted by: JDW at June 09, 2010 02:09 PM (7yofg)

36

maybe iran, syria have stockpiles of infectious they are sharing

Posted by: willow at June 09, 2010 06:05 PM (HyUIR)


Check Dutch's answer. HIV is a very sensitive virus and more often than not dies before it infects. If it was like a rhino-virus, then humans would have been fucked.

Posted by: Hamid Karzai at June 09, 2010 02:10 PM (nxUYP)

37 The novelist Nelson DeMille was on Beck this morning and said he has no idea what we're doing in Afghanistan anymore, if we can't fight the damned war. 

Gateway Pundit had a piece on a seven year old boy executed by the Taliban for "spying" or something.  Jeebus.  Wonder if these were the moderates we're reaching out to?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 09, 2010 02:11 PM (UOM48)

38 but but but Abu Gharib? Eeesh, it matters not, the left only cares about the crimes it imagines this country commits.

Posted by: joeindc44 at June 09, 2010 02:11 PM (QxSug)

39 27 Have we ever used the "love bomb"?

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 09, 2010 06:06 PM (c0A3e)

I don't know about you, but I surely have!

Posted by: Barry White at June 09, 2010 02:11 PM (YVZlY)

40 Cursed sock!

Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 09, 2010 02:12 PM (nxUYP)

41 Have we ever used the "love bomb"?

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 09, 2010 06:06 PM (c0A3e)

I say send in Maxwell Smart and the Nude Bomb!

Posted by: stuiec at June 09, 2010 02:12 PM (7AOgy)

42 What does the Geneva Convention say about this? Oh wait, it doesn't matter because these goat fuckers don't abide by the Geneva Convention. Posted by: conscious, but incoherent

Well maybe if Dick Cheney were durff adurff adurr dur urrrr

Posted by: Z Lib' at June 09, 2010 02:12 PM (cMo6P)

43 plenty of HIV to go around in Africa

Posted by: the peanut gallery at June 09, 2010 02:13 PM (NurK6)

44 ‘This is the definition of a dirty war.’

Actually it is a violation of the laws of warfare. Of course everything they do is a violation of the the laws of war. Countdown to libtards complain about those violations......1, 2, 3.  

Sorry must have been bad moonshine. Forgot myslef there.

Posted by: Vic at June 09, 2010 02:14 PM (6taRI)

45 thanks to dum-dum Bush policies, extending the lives of HIV-infected people obviously leads to more widespread HIV infection.... DUH

Posted by: the peanut gallery at June 09, 2010 02:14 PM (NurK6)

46 Maybe Obama can convene a panel of experts and they can tell him who's ass to kick.

Posted by: robtr at June 09, 2010 02:15 PM (fwSHf)

47

1.1 million americans infected with hiv. blast that's bad.

wish they'd find a cure.

Posted by: willow at June 09, 2010 02:16 PM (HyUIR)

48 Seems like the explosion would sterilize the needles....

Posted by: Brad at June 09, 2010 02:16 PM (GkYyh)

49

We should start with Tibet. Massive statement, that.  

Next, tell ALL the liberals, this was a warning.  San Francisco is next if you don't grow some fuckin' balls and use your brains for something useful.

Then we lay wast to Iran, Syria,Yemen and Afghanistan. Concurrent like.

When the dust settles, we need to get the Pan Am bomber voluntarily handed over by the Libyans. 

After we disembowel him on the floor of the UN, we bomb Tripoli. Twice.

...let's see. 

How many Nukes do we have left?

Posted by: garrett laying out the battle plan. at June 09, 2010 02:16 PM (ucNJU)

50 A 22 year old Army Ranger is returning to Savannah.  In a coffin.  He's one of the 17 troops lost since Sunday.  Where's the libs' outrage?  Where's the care?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 09, 2010 02:16 PM (UOM48)

51 ‘This is the definition of a dirty war.’

Actually it is a violation of the laws of warfare.

Only western countries follow the rules of war. Ask Vietnam, Japan, China, the Taliban, Al Quieda, etc........

Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 09, 2010 02:16 PM (nxUYP)

52 The BFF and I were watching the first episode of Ashes to Ashes today.  For those that don't know, it's a Brit show about a female detective who ends up being sent back from 2008 to 1981.  There's a part where Keeley Hawes is telling a kid about she's seen boys so angry that they strap bombs to themselves and blow up innocents.  The kid looks at her all stunned and says "Even the IRA wouldn't do that!"

Ahhh, to be so naive again.

Posted by: alexthechick at June 09, 2010 02:17 PM (gNWTR)

53 #26  If I were to be surprised here, it would be the capability and resources of the Taliban, not how dirty they fight.

Eh, I dunno.  Being able to score some HIV-infected medical waste isn't a big sign of weapons capability.  And this tactic of loading bombs with shrapnel coated with something isn't novel.  The Palis used to load plastic places into their bombs, making them more difficult to detect in a victim and also coated shrapnel with warfarin (rat poison) to interfere with blood clotting.

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 09, 2010 02:17 PM (c0A3e)

54 Is there an "I am OK with nukes" petition someplace I can sign?

Posted by: AndrewsDad at June 09, 2010 02:18 PM (C2//T)

55 A 22 year old Army Ranger is returning to Savannah.  In a coffin.  He's one of the 17 troops lost since Sunday.  Where's the libs' outrage?  Where's the care?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 09, 2010 06:16 PM (UOM4


I care.

Posted by: Samuel Adams an Air Force Vet. at June 09, 2010 02:18 PM (nxUYP)

56

What happened to teh poaching from Hot Air.  This time we need it!

Where's the Palin breast enlargement thread?

Stat!!!


I need photographic evidence.  YESTERDAY, people!

Move it.

Posted by: hobgoblin at June 09, 2010 02:19 PM (BXLor)

57 Let me be clear..... I would have no problem with us turning every fucking poppy field and every snake invested cave into one big steaming pile of glass. Either we fight a war to win, ugliness and all, or we get the fuck out.

Posted by: theadmiral at June 09, 2010 02:19 PM (5mJo5)

58 They want biological warfare so long as the West fails to admit to the public what is occurring, and fails to respond likewise.

Posted by: maverick muse at June 09, 2010 02:20 PM (H+LJc)

59 Let's start catching a few Tali, soaking them in pigs blood and throwing them in a pit.  In the sun.  And leave them to die slowly in the hot sun.  And the bastards who "executed" a 7 year old child?  Feed them to hungry wild hogs. 

Yeah, I know.  I'm kinda evil that way.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 09, 2010 02:20 PM (UOM48)

60 Makes you wonder where they got the AIDS to put into their syringes..

Posted by: JavaJoe at June 09, 2010 02:20 PM (e9JZd)

61 Does Andrew Sullivan have an alibi?

Posted by: andycanuck at June 09, 2010 02:20 PM (7b1Uc)

62 “War is cruelty. There's no use trying to reform it. The crueler it is, the sooner it will be over.”

William Tecumseh Sherman
A guy who knew, without a doubt in his mind, whose ass to kick.

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at June 09, 2010 02:20 PM (OFPTC)

63 HIV is no big deal. Just look at me.

Posted by: magic johnson at June 09, 2010 02:21 PM (HtIec)

64

 need photographic evidence.  YESTERDAY, people!

Lacey linked it one post down...handy moronette, that one. Bit lippy. Tough on the lamps, too.

Posted by: garrett at June 09, 2010 02:21 PM (ucNJU)

65 At some point, the nukes are going to fly, and I'm going to be okay with that.

You haven't seen us angry. You won't like us when we're angry.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 09, 2010 02:21 PM (0q2P7)

66 Feed them to hungry wild hogs.

That's too cruel to do to the wild hogs.

Posted by: alexthechick at June 09, 2010 02:21 PM (gNWTR)

67 And we wouldn't even have to nuke 'em from orbit. Get one of them drone thingies.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 09, 2010 02:22 PM (0QJjg)

68 I don't understand why it isn't common practice to bury the remains of suicide bombers in a pig's ass.  I think they would think twice

Sure go ahead, be a martyr, but you'll spend eternity in a pig's ass in some unmarked grave...facing west.

Posted by: Berserker at June 09, 2010 02:22 PM (gWHrG)

69

"At some point, the nukes are going to fly, and I'm going to be okay with that."

You would think that if the worldwide Muslim ummah wanted to keep this from deteriorating into a full-on war between Islam and the West, they would turn against the Islamicists and get them to stop poking the sleeping dragon.

But maybe there aren't enough members (percentagewise) of the worldwide Muslim ummah who really are interested in preventing a war between Islam and the West.  Maybe too many are indifferent to which side would win, and maybe too many are rooting for the Islamicists to take the West down a few pegs, and maybe too many are rooting for the Islamicists to win outright and institute a new Caliphate.

In any event, there's way too many outraged demonstrations against insults to Islam and way too many depraved terrorists inventing new ways to kill in the name of Islam, and far too few visible actions on the part of the moderates whom we have long been assured form the Silent Muslim Majority.  If they don't start speaking up pretty damn soon, then I think you're right, Ace: nukes will fly and a lot of other ugliness will be unleashed in the name of simple survival.

Posted by: stuiec at June 09, 2010 02:22 PM (7AOgy)

70 An explosion would likely destroy the virus.  It would not if there was no explosion-this is about the guys clearing IEDs, not the targets of IEDs.

Posted by: Methos at June 09, 2010 02:22 PM (Xsi7M)

71

"We should start with Tibet. Massive statement, that."

 

Tibet? Really? Well, yes that would make a statement, but more about our knowledge of demographics than our resolve... 

Posted by: Brad at June 09, 2010 02:22 PM (GkYyh)

72

Hey Ace -

Been keeping up with the new season of Whale Was?

 

Posted by: garrett at June 09, 2010 02:23 PM (ucNJU)

73

1. I doubt the Taliban have access to HIV-tainted blood in quantity.

2. The virus does not survive long in ambient conditions - it's fragile.

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at June 09, 2010 02:23 PM (w41GQ)

74 Wasn't "Pig's Ass" one of those characters in the cantina scene? I think he was with the band.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 09, 2010 02:23 PM (0QJjg)

75 Seems like the explosion would sterilize the needles....


I think the needles are for the Sappers to get pricked with when they are digging up the IEDs

Posted by: JavaJoe at June 09, 2010 02:23 PM (e9JZd)

76 Isn't our fellow moron, Dr. Manhattan, in EOD school right now? 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 09, 2010 02:24 PM (UOM48)

77

Pakistan is full of junkies, by the way.

 

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at June 09, 2010 02:24 PM (w41GQ)

78 You don't nuke a country because some Taliban shitbags are doing what Taliban shitbags do.  Nuclear strikes should be reserved  for extreme circumstances.  Infected needles buried in the ground by a bunch of drug dealers/religious zealots (only Islam can provide us with THAT combination) who can barely read isn't one of those extreme circumstances.

I do advocate other options, but nuking isn't one of them.

Posted by: tangonine at June 09, 2010 02:24 PM (C8Pcc)

79 Talk about giving AIDS and comfort to the enemy!

Posted by: Wolfwood at June 09, 2010 02:24 PM (WVTOL)

80 "At some point, the nukes are going to fly, and I'm going to be okay with that."

Iran and other religious nut countries also. They are expecting that (Armageddon) anyway from their great leader, God.

Posted by: raykon at June 09, 2010 02:24 PM (zX2px)

81 Where's the Palin breast enlargement thread?

Stat!!!

I need photographic evidence.  YESTERDAY, people!

Move it.

Posted by: hobgoblin at June 09, 2010 06:19 PM (BXLor)

The one thing to like about Islam is that under shari'a, if Sarah Palin wanted to work in the same workplace as men, she'd have to breast-feed them.  But with my luck, I'd probably end up working in an office with Helen Thomas.

Posted by: stuiec at June 09, 2010 02:24 PM (7AOgy)

82 Wasn't "Pig's Ass" one of those characters in the cantina scene Return of the Jedi? I think he was with the band.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 09, 2010 02:25 PM (0QJjg)

83 When are we going to invent the pig blood aerosol bomb?

Posted by: Barbarian at June 09, 2010 02:25 PM (EL+OC)

84 Maybe Barky McKickass Fucktard should make a statement by volunteering to parachute into Tali country and put his boot on the neck of a muzzie and kick some ass.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 09, 2010 02:25 PM (UOM48)

85 God I need dick.

Posted by: Come-mouth the Goo-Goblin at June 09, 2010 02:25 PM (z8NNY)

86 This is bullshit. The AID virus dies outside of a host human after less than 20 minutes.

Of all of the stuff thrown out by an IED a syringe needle is the least of anybody's worries.

Posted by: Ed Anger at June 09, 2010 02:26 PM (7+pP9)

87 I would think a bomb disposal person would have more things to worry about.  Like disassembling a bomb put together on some amateur's work bench.

Posted by: GarandFan at June 09, 2010 02:26 PM (6mwMs)

88 Is it possible to find these people's relatives and kill them?

Like that asshole that killed the CIA guys who was a double agent and has a wife in Turkey... Let's say we find her and you know....kill her so she isn't able to be the asshole's wife anymore and is just the dead asshole's wife.


Posted by: JavaJoe at June 09, 2010 02:26 PM (e9JZd)

89 78 Isn't our fellow moron, Dr. Manhattan, in EOD school right now?

Yup.  He checked in a few weeks ago, and is doing okay.

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 09, 2010 02:27 PM (c0A3e)

90

#77

Makes more sense; however, as many have pointed out, that virus doesn't do well in "nice" ambiant conditions, much less a hot, sun drenched desert-like location.

Posted by: Brad at June 09, 2010 02:27 PM (GkYyh)

91 At some point, the nukes are going to fly, and I'm going to be okay with that.

Me, too.  And there's no time like the present...

Posted by: antisocialist at June 09, 2010 02:27 PM (Rwudm)

92 Iran and other religious nut countries also. They are expecting that (Armageddon) anyway from their great leader, God.

Posted by: raykon at June 09, 2010 06:24 PM (zX2px)

Typical that you would confuse Allah with God.  The Islamicists don't.

Posted by: stuiec at June 09, 2010 02:27 PM (7AOgy)

93

Well, yes that would make a statement, but more about our knowledge of demographics than our resolve... 

Absolutely! 

Unlike our current Leader, I focus less like a Lazer, more like a Lump-Hammer. 

The poblem of the bleeding hearts needs to be solved as well.  We nuke Tibet, we take away the Free Tibet! crowd and simultaneously do the Chinese a favor. 

No need to fight wars with the Chinese till we have to, son.

While I'm at it, we're going  sink the SS Steve Irwin, and the SS Bob Barker.

 

Posted by: garrett at June 09, 2010 02:28 PM (ucNJU)

94 "she'd have to breast-feed them"

JHC you are a sick bastard. Those things have been worked over like a cow in a feed lot. Shes a brood mare.

Posted by: raykon at June 09, 2010 02:28 PM (zX2px)

95 But if there are any bad guys left and they set off a nuke here

Dude if they could've they would've

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 09, 2010 02:28 PM (0q2P7)

96 I call BS.  You can't just collect HIV and store it like canned goods to be used at a later date.  It's a very fragile virus that doesn't survive long outside a warm body, or so I've been told.  Which is good, because it could probably be transmitted by mosquitoes, wood ticks, and other bitey-bugs otherwise, and then we'd really be fucked.

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at June 09, 2010 02:29 PM (G/oUM)

97 You don't nuke a country because some Taliban shitbags are doing what Taliban shitbags do.

*You* might not, but I certainly would, and couldn't vote fast enough for anyone who promises to settle the score from 9/11 more thoroughly.

As to HIV, they'd probably have more success sending bisexual-for-Allah mujahadeen to college campuses than hoping some bomb tech gets unlucky.  And don't we use robots to deal with bombs, or is that just our police?

Posted by: Methos at June 09, 2010 02:29 PM (Xsi7M)

98 #75 is right -- the virus doesn't live long (like maybe an hour or so) outside the human body. 

There was an email scare back in the early days of the internet about something similar -- people were supposedly sticking HIV-infected needles in seat cushions at movie theaters.  Its baloney.

Posted by: bullfrog at June 09, 2010 02:29 PM (WrBVP)

99

Okay. "Pig's Arse" has a name:

"Droopy McCool"

http://tinyurl.com/2alkcle

Doesn't look droopy to me. Or cool.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 09, 2010 02:29 PM (0QJjg)

100 I didn't know that about HIV... I will update about that.

Posted by: ace at June 09, 2010 02:29 PM (66DVY)

101 #88  Of all of the stuff thrown out by an IED a syringe needle is the least of anybody's worries.

True, but from what I got from the story, it seems like this HIV-tainted needles are being buried with the bombs to that the EOD personnel get pricked when they try to disarm them.

It's not a good strategy, but it's a step smarter than just loading the needles into bombs, for all the reasons people have already described.

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 09, 2010 02:30 PM (c0A3e)

102 Aaaaand just as we have a thread up about British soldiers being blown up by HIV infected needles and other assorted IED crap, the usual suspects arrive.

Raytard, go back to Kos and celebrate the deaths of all our brave young men and women.  And then pull your pants up and go upstairs for your mom's cheese sandwich.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 09, 2010 02:31 PM (UOM48)

103 Only western countries follow the rules of war. Ask Vietnam, Japan, China, the Taliban, Al Quieda, etc........

Actually the U.S. has only been at war with one country that followed the laws of war at the time. And that time the U.S. routinely violated the laws of war.

That was when they invaded the Confederacy. 

Posted by: Vic at June 09, 2010 02:31 PM (6taRI)

104

#95

Problem with that is that, technically spaking, the chinese consider Tibet to be part of China.... They might "frown" on such an act...

Posted by: Brad at June 09, 2010 02:32 PM (GkYyh)

105 You are a stupid cunt, ace.

Posted by: Ace alert: al-Qaeda engineers create potency stripping cum-magnet at June 09, 2010 06:25 PM (z8NNY)



Hey, Ace is not stupid.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at June 09, 2010 02:32 PM (pEK05)

106

 I didn't know that about HIV...

Cereal?

You need to get some info. that's like 6th Grade Health Class.

Unless you are over 42 or so...

Posted by: garrett at June 09, 2010 02:32 PM (ucNJU)

107 "Typical that you would confuse Allah with God.  The Islamicists don't."

The pluralists are already converting to monism. Get on the stick.

Posted by: raykon at June 09, 2010 02:32 PM (zX2px)

108 105 Only western countries follow the rules of war. Ask Vietnam, Japan, China, the Taliban, Al Quieda, etc........

Actually the U.S. has only been at war with one country that followed the laws of war at the time. And that time the U.S. routinely violated the laws of war.

That was when they invaded the Confederacy.

And that's the way it should be,  punk.

Posted by: John McCain-POW For Life at June 09, 2010 02:33 PM (EL+OC)

109 20 NATO troops killed this week.  How many Tali's?  Jeebus.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 09, 2010 02:34 PM (UOM48)

110 We probably shouldn't discount the possibility that A Qaeda is sticking HIV-infected blood on needles near IEDs and is unaware that the virus won't long survive in that condition.

Posted by: Methos at June 09, 2010 02:34 PM (Xsi7M)

111

Al Qaeda Hoax? Commenters Ed and old dirty b/tard say the HIV virus is fragile and dies quickly outside a living human host and say there's no way to store it for long periods. Ed says it dies 20 minutes outside the body.


Yeah, and there's that.  Spread this story, throw a few needles on the ground, and their goal of creating a new fear is accomplished.

Posted by: Z Ryan at June 09, 2010 02:34 PM (cMo6P)

112 You would think that if the worldwide Muslim ummah wanted to keep this from deteriorating into a full-on war between Islam and the West, they would turn against the Islamicists and get them to stop poking the sleeping dragon.

<DM> Bahamut wakes up and decides to use all of his breath weapons!

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 09, 2010 02:35 PM (0q2P7)

113

They might "frown" on such an act...

Nah, there's lots of China. They'd be happy to get rid of that filthy Llama.

Perhaps we can just have Leonard Peltier publically executed...I'll think about it.

Posted by: garrett at June 09, 2010 02:35 PM (ucNJU)

114

Can I put you some f'n knowledge?

Survival of Human Immunodeficiency Virus (type-1) in Injection Syringes.
Clay SP; Heimer R; Jariwala Freeman B; Negioanu D; Griffith B. Int Conf AIDS, 1996 Jul 7-12, 11:1, 355 (abstract no. Tu.C.2522)
Abstract

Objectives: (1) To develop and deploy a whole blood quantitative microculture assay (WBQMA) able to utilize the small volumes of blood remaining in injection syringes after use. (2) To determine the duration of survival of HIV-1 in injection syringes. (3) To determine the viral load in syringes over the survival period. (4) To discern policy implications of the findings. Methods: A whole blood quantitative microculture for HIV-1 was developed and standardized to current PBMC quantitative culture techniques. Multiple syringes were loaded with blood infected by two wild-type strains of HIV-1 and stored in simulation of street use in accordance with ethnographic studies. Contents were removed at Day 0 through Day 28 and were cocultured with uninfected PBMCs for a maximum of 21 days. Testing for p24 AG in the supernatant, using Abbott kits, was conducted for viral load calculation. Statistical analysis included Chi Square, Median Test, and the Bonferroni Method for Multiple Comparisons. Results: Viable HIV-1 was cultured from syringes stored for as long as 28 days. 50% of Strain VS001- and 99% of VS002-loaded syringes were positive for viable virus; the overall syringe positivity rate was 75%. The two strains differed from one another by number of syringes positive per time of storage and by storage time specific viral loads (p is less than 0.05 and p is less than 0.01 respectively). Loads on Days 0, 1, 3, 7, 21, 28 differed (p is less than 0.05) from Day 14. Conclusions: (1) The WBQMA is capable of quantifying viral load from small inputs. (2) A 28-day survival time exceeds current estimates. (3) Load appears to be sufficient to effect transmission. (4) This survival time provides a scientific basis for needle exchange and supports the use of harm reduction techniques and the removal from circulation of used syringes and injection equipment.

Posted by: stuiec at June 09, 2010 02:35 PM (7AOgy)

115 57 A 22 year old Army Ranger is returning to Savannah.  In a coffin.  He's one of the 17 troops lost since Sunday.  Where's the libs' outrage?  Where's the care?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 09, 2010 06:16 PM (UOM4


I care.

Posted by: Samuel Adams an Air Force Vet. at June 09, 2010 06:18 PM (nxUYP)


I care too.

Local man coming home in a coffin this week too.

Posted by: Timbo at June 09, 2010 02:36 PM (ph9vn)

116 Wasn't "Pig's Ass" one of those characters in the cantina scene Return of the Jedi? I think he was with the band.
Yeah, from the planet Raykon Ana VI.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 09, 2010 02:36 PM (7b1Uc)

117 I'd just point out that one can store this virus admirably in goats.  So I've heard.

Posted by: Adam "Goatfucker" Gadahn at June 09, 2010 02:37 PM (o3kbt)

118 @54Posted by: alexthechick at June 09, 2010 06:17 PM (gNWTR)

Ashes to Ashes Rocks!!  We watched the series finale a couple of weeks back.

Just like Life on Mars in the 'wow' category...kinda ties both together...




Posted by: Portnoy at June 09, 2010 02:38 PM (azgo2)

119 101

Okay. "Pig's Arse" has a name:

"Droopy McCool"

http://tinyurl.com/2alkcle

Doesn't look droopy to me. Or cool

 

I didn't know Cankles Clinton played in the band.

 

Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 09, 2010 02:38 PM (yQWNf)

120 Ah, shit.  Barky is speaking on my TV about Iran sanctions.  And as usual, that chin and nose were way up in the air.

I can't stand that prissy, useless bastard.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 09, 2010 02:39 PM (UOM48)

121 Ahmed! what are you doing with that Dutch man!??? Sodomy is against the rules of Islam!! You will burn in Hell for eternity!!!

No no no, Akmed. I am only trying to acquire more weapons grade fluid for our battle. This is only for the the cause.

Oh, maybe when he is done with you I too can help the cause,...

Posted by: nine coconuts at June 09, 2010 02:39 PM (DHNp4)

122 Hee...  I already had Adam "Goatfucker" Gadahn stored as a sockpuppet.  Do I know myself, or what?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 02:39 PM (o3kbt)

123 Posted by: stuiec at June 09, 2010 06:35 PM (7AOgy)

Ouch!

Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 09, 2010 02:40 PM (nxUYP)

124 My degree in computer science that Bill Clinton personally scrawled out for me in his own jizz uniquely qualifies me to state that U.S. troops being killed by HIV bombs just makes good economic sense.

Posted by: Lt. Gen. Raykon, USAF at June 09, 2010 02:40 PM (uxX/z)

125

> Nuclear strikes should be reserved  for extreme circumstances. 

Agreed.

> Infected needles buried in the ground by a bunch of drug dealers/religious zealots (only Islam can provide us with THAT combination) who can barely read isn't one of those extreme circumstances.

I agree with that, too. But I think what Ace was saying (and he can speak for himself on this) is that such exteme circumstances may soon be upon us.

Posted by: FireHorse at June 09, 2010 02:40 PM (cQyWA)

126 I do advocate other options, but nuking isn't one of them.

Posted by: tangonine at June 09, 2010 06:24 PM (C8Pcc)

 

We should have started nuking the bastards on 9/12/01.  There should be very very dire consequences for attacking the US.

Posted by: Soona at June 09, 2010 02:41 PM (L7/mf)

127

Our infected needles are Guaranteed to be Fresh.

75% Positivity rate for 14 days from delivery or your money back!

Try! Before you buy.

We will gadly offer samples of ALL our infected HospitalGrade Waste!!

Posted by: Abdul Moamar's Infected Needle Emporium at June 09, 2010 02:41 PM (ucNJU)

128 Newbies! Ever hear of a pungi stick?

Posted by: Comrade Viet Cong at June 09, 2010 02:41 PM (vRu8i)

129 20 minutes to 28 days properly stored?

Posted by: willow at June 09, 2010 02:41 PM (HyUIR)

130 Keep us away from those stinking goat-fuckers!

Posted by: The Pigs at June 09, 2010 02:42 PM (UOM48)

131

We should have started nuking the bastards on 9/12/01.  There should be very very dire consequences for attacking the US.

Posted by: Soona at June 09, 2010 06:41 PM (L7/mf)


A mountain range should have been leveled in Afganistan.   Kapoot.. gone.


Posted by: Timbo at June 09, 2010 02:44 PM (ph9vn)

132 68 Feed them to hungry wild hogs.

That's too cruel to do to the wild hogs.

Posted by: alexthechick at June 09, 2010 06:21 PM (gNWTR)


Hey now, we hear them islamofags is good eatin'......they might be all hairy and smell like shit, but hey...we're hogs and that's what we're into...

Posted by: The Hogs at June 09, 2010 02:45 PM (azgo2)

133
You are a stupid cunt, ace.

Posted by: Ace alert: al-Qaeda engineers create potency stripping cum-magnet at June 09, 2010 06:25 PM (z8NNY)



Hey, Ace is not stupid.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at June 09, 2010 06:32 PM (pEK05)

I saw what you did there.

Posted by: Ed Anger at June 09, 2010 02:45 PM (7+pP9)

134

1. If aids doesn't live outside the body why do we worry about needle exchanges? Just for hepititis? What was all that stuff about drug addicts?

2. Didn't we have a link, not too long ago about the taliban types ass raping a guy who dared to have sex with a woman and then turned him in? I guess they killed the woman.

3. They have needles? Really? Tree needles or stone needles? Razors? They don't shave. Box cutters, probably.

Posted by: dagny at June 09, 2010 02:49 PM (FoUOO)

135 Apparently they've heard of the plan to repeal DADT and allow homos to serve openly (and whatever goes hand in hand with that), and this is their response.

I'm good with the nukes, cuz it's coming one way or another.
Let's just hope Oliar isn't standing by himself when the music stops in Nuclear chairs.

Posted by: ontherocks at June 09, 2010 02:50 PM (HBqDo)

136

Yes, what stueic said, the virus can live in a needle with blood for a period of time, a quick Bing search pulls this, more simplified statement up:

 One place that HIV has been know to survive in is drug injection syringes since these are airtight and often contain blood from the injector.

Also, as others have pointed out, there is no shortage of HIV infected people in Africa, and as we all know there are many Taliban friendly regions there.

The only reason my BS meter is up is that this appeared in the Sun.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at June 09, 2010 02:51 PM (RZ8pf)

137

Thair's a reason you should never piss-off a peeg farmer.

Posted by: Bricktop at June 09, 2010 02:52 PM (r60xu)

138

We should have started nuking the bastards on 9/12/01.  There should be very very dire consequences for attacking the US citizens.

Posted by: Soona at June 09, 2010 06:41 PM (L7/mf)


A mountain range Kandahar should have been leveled in Afganistan.   Kapoot.. gone.


Posted by: Timbo at June 09, 2010 06:44 PM (ph9vn)


FIF(both of)Y

Posted by: Methos at June 09, 2010 02:52 PM (Xsi7M)

139

If the Taliban start blogging about Sarah Palin, we'll know where  they are getting their HIV from.

Posted by: The Drizzle at June 09, 2010 02:53 PM (AaGVW)

140

Feed them to hungry wild hogs.

That's too cruel to do to the wild hogs.

Worked for Dr. Lecter. And the pigs looked like they were having a good time.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 09, 2010 02:54 PM (0QJjg)

141 20 minutes to 28 days properly stored?

Posted by: willow at June 09, 2010 06:41 PM (HyUIR)

You can't get it (generally speaking) from a toilet seat, but you certainly can get it from being stuck with a dirty needle.  And a jihadist doesn't need dirty needles to stay infectious for 28 days -- most likely that IED is going to get used within a day or two of its burial.  If the ISAF forces detect the IED in that short window, then the purpose of the needles would be to make the sappers so anxious about touching anything near the bomb that they were driven to make mistakes that set the bomb off.  Since IED sappers are rare and hard to replicate, killing one of them advances the enemy's goals as much as killing a score of infantrymen.

Posted by: stuiec at June 09, 2010 02:54 PM (7AOgy)

142

have you ever touched a human female breast, rayfag? (i.e. not your silverdollar nipple moobs) 

nursing does not inherently do anything to a human female's breast except maybe making the nipples a bit longer. And that's a good thing, let me tell you.

 (some women experience "deflation" but some don't.  I got lucky with my wife in that respect.  same with sag.  But Palin's don't look too saggy).



 

Posted by: hobgoblin at June 09, 2010 02:55 PM (BXLor)

143

What's the big deal?  America has a timetable to leave anyway. 

Plus - Did anyone see Obama talking up the crippling sanctions on Iran?  Here is a direct quote, "You all like eating bullshit?  Right here I happen to have a fresh pile of stinky steaming tasty bullshit just for you."

Pretty much verbatim.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at June 09, 2010 02:57 PM (r1h5M)

144 "We should start with Tibet. Massive statement, that."

Why the fuck would we nuke Tibet? That's a stunningly stupid thing to say.

Posted by: NJConservative at June 09, 2010 02:58 PM (LH6ir)

145 Sarah's breasts look Marvelous!

Posted by: Billy Crystal at June 09, 2010 02:59 PM (YVZlY)

146 Problem with this 20 min to 28 days if properly stored is that thre research is focussed on using best avaialble techniques to "scientifically" store the samples. This is not what happens in a normal venue, only in a well-equipped lab.

Posted by: Brad at June 09, 2010 03:00 PM (GkYyh)

147 Somebody needs to tell Barry that maybe he should kick the Taliban's ass for making such threats.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at June 09, 2010 03:00 PM (r1h5M)

148

Nursing does nothing to the breast except make it less likely to have to be cut off one day. Only the ill educated trailer park heavy drinking types think that it harms their appearance anymore. What an idiot.

Posted by: dagny at June 09, 2010 03:00 PM (FoUOO)

149  (some women experience "deflation" but some don't.  I got lucky with my wife in that respect.  same with sag.  But Palin's don't look too saggy).

Posted by: hobgoblin at June 09, 2010 06:55 PM (BXLor)

raykon doesn't like 'em saggy... or round... or with big nipples... or female.

Posted by: stuiec at June 09, 2010 03:00 PM (7AOgy)

150 Why the fuck would we nuke Tibet?

I hate orange.  Horrid colour, really.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 03:00 PM (o3kbt)

151 I haven't read all the comments..so maybe someone has said this...but wouldn't the heat of the explosion kill any virus?  I'm thinking this is a hoax

Posted by: kawfytawk at June 09, 2010 03:01 PM (lFt0D)

152 Why not nuke Tibet?

Posted by: Z Ryan at June 09, 2010 03:01 PM (cMo6P)

153 If the Taliban start blogging about Sarah Palin, we'll know where  they are getting their HIV from.

What?

Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 09, 2010 03:02 PM (nxUYP)

154

Problem with this 20 min to 28 days if properly stored is that thre research is focussed on using best avaialble techniques to "scientifically" store the samples. This is not what happens in a normal venue, only in a well-equipped lab.

Posted by: Brad at June 09, 2010 07:00 PM (GkYyh)

You missed this, perhaps.

Multiple syringes were loaded with blood infected by two wild-type strains of HIV-1 and stored in simulation of street use in accordance with ethnographic studies.

Posted by: stuiec at June 09, 2010 03:02 PM (7AOgy)

155

So Palin's already got Sullivan as Uterus Monitor.

Is this Rayguy the Breast Monitor?

P.S. Is the Arse Monitor position taken yet?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 09, 2010 03:02 PM (0QJjg)

156 Next time they try a significant attack - take their Holy Sites.  Mecca, Medina, Temple Mount, etc. - let Disney administer access so everyone can visit safely (no crushing, plenty of water, warpigs for bomb screening) regardless of sect or faith (including Jews and Hindus).

They want a religious conflict - give it to them. Annouce it ahead of time, if the Ummah doesn''t like it - take their oil too.

Posted by: Jean at June 09, 2010 03:02 PM (CPefM)

157

ott, but PBS ran a show about WWII military "war dogs":

http://tinyurl.com/25woukj

Is it possible for the military to train dogs to sniff out IEDs, especially since it's apparently possible for police K9 units at airports to discover hidden explosives? Or, are they not being deployed to avoid offending anti-dog Muslim sensitivities?

Posted by: adagioforstrings at June 09, 2010 03:02 PM (QfeFQ)

158 If the Taliban start blogging about Sarah Palin, we'll know where  they are getting their HIV from.

What?
Posted by: Samuel Adams

It was a clever Andrew Sullivan joke.

Posted by: Z Ryan at June 09, 2010 03:02 PM (cMo6P)

159 Why not nuke Tibet? Because China is Obama's overlord and master.

Posted by: dagny at June 09, 2010 03:03 PM (FoUOO)

160 Is this Rayguy the Breast Monitor?

I'm on it.  I opened a Breast Evaluation Center.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 03:03 PM (o3kbt)

161 Raykon is still shook up from yesterdays primaries .
He , she , it , can see that it's all starting to come apart .
Poor , poor raykon .
Fuck off , asshole .

Posted by: awkward davies at June 09, 2010 03:03 PM (B4e7Q)

162 It was a clever Andrew Sullivan joke.

Posted by: Z Ryan at June 09, 2010 07:02 PM (cMo6P)


Oops, must have missed the hash.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 09, 2010 03:03 PM (nxUYP)

163 If the Taliban start blogging about Sarah Palin, we'll know where  they are getting their HIV from.

What?

Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 09, 2010 07:02 PM (nxUYP)

Andi Sullivan flava.

Posted by: stuiec at June 09, 2010 03:04 PM (7AOgy)

164 The Sikhs deserve to be nuked for this.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at June 09, 2010 03:04 PM (pEK05)

165 Sarah's breasts look Marvelous!

Did I sleep through the last week? I saw her recent pic, she didn't get them done did she?

Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 09, 2010 03:05 PM (nxUYP)

166 It was a clever Andrew Sullivan joke.
Posted by: Z Ryan at June 09, 2010 07:02 PM (cMo6P)

That's the first time I've ever seen "Andrew Sullivan" and "clever" in the same sentence.

20 bucks if you can put "rutabaga" and "Michelle Obama's recent outfit" in the same juxtaposition.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 03:05 PM (o3kbt)

167
A 22 year old Army Ranger is returning to Savannah.  In a coffin.  He's one of the 17 troops lost since Sunday.  Where's the libs' outrage?  Where's the care?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 09, 2010 06:16 PM (UOM4

There is only manufactured outrage for liberal/progressives, and it's reserved exclusively for republican presidents. 


Posted by: Fish at June 09, 2010 03:06 PM (v1gw3)

168 I haven't read all the comments..so maybe someone has said this...but wouldn't the heat of the explosion kill any virus?  I'm thinking this is a hoax

Posted by: kawfytawk at June 09, 2010 07:01 PM (lFt0D)

Think of the SAW movies.  If the bad guys surround the buried IED with buried dirty needles, then they can make the bomb disposal techs have to go through extra effort and precautions to avoid getting stuck with the needles -- and their theory is that the extra effort, stress, anxiety and protective gloves may lead to the techs making mistakes that lead to more of the IEDs detonating during disposal.

Posted by: stuiec at June 09, 2010 03:07 PM (7AOgy)

169 Michelle Obama's recent outfit was a clever use of rutabaga.

Posted by: Z Ryan at June 09, 2010 03:08 PM (cMo6P)

170 20 bucks if you can put "rutabaga" and "Michelle Obama's recent outfit" in the same juxtaposition.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 07:05 PM (o3kbt)

"I think Michelle Obama smuggled a rutabaga into Ford's theater in her recent outfit, because I could see the root tip poking out."

Posted by: stuiec at June 09, 2010 03:09 PM (7AOgy)

171

stuiec is equipped with the facts, this is possible to do. Whether the Taliban is successfully doing it or it is misinformation they are spreading is debatable. What is not debatable is that it is possible to transmit the HIV virus through "dirty" needles.

The HIV virus can survive in human blood, the length of time it survives is variable based on conditions, but it is tenacious. If this was not true, they would have no reason to screen HIV positive people out of donating blood.

If you choose not to believe this, feel free to do a Bing search and research it yourselves.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at June 09, 2010 03:09 PM (RZ8pf)

172
Daddy, why does mommy hate rutabaga and republicans?

Posted by: Malia at June 09, 2010 03:09 PM (v1gw3)

173 In all my time out there in the shit I didn't have time to screw around with such trifling things as female breasts.  I was too busy saving all your asses and earning my computer science degree the hard way.  I'll never forget that day in '94, when my Commander-in-Chief William Jefferson Clinton personally came up to me as I was crouched there in the grass about to snipe an entire division of the enemy, shook my hand, and said "Son, that won't be necessary.  You did good.  I'll handle the titties; you get yourself an education."  If I hadn't been pushed into computer science like that who knows what I'd be today.  Thank you, Bill, for taking this nipply cup from my lips.  Thank you.

Posted by: Lt. Gen. Raykon, USAF (Ret.) at June 09, 2010 03:09 PM (uxX/z)

174 Posted by: stuiec at June 09, 2010 07:07 PM (7AOgy)

Being an ex-EOD guy, we only gave a shit about what makes it go boom. What's in it means nothing unless it was VX or something.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 09, 2010 03:10 PM (nxUYP)

175 Is this Rayguy the Breast Monitor?
No. He's the anus inspector (10-Year-Olds Division).

Posted by: andycanuck at June 09, 2010 03:10 PM (7b1Uc)

176 I'm on it.  I opened a Breast Evaluation Center.

Your nobility, it amazes.

Posted by: alexthechick at June 09, 2010 03:11 PM (gNWTR)

177
Daddy, why does Z Ryan say bad things about mommy?

Posted by: Malia at June 09, 2010 03:11 PM (v1gw3)

178 Daddy, why does Z Ryan say bad things about mommy?
Posted by: Malia

Because those Klingon bastards kill my son!

Posted by: Z Ryan at June 09, 2010 03:12 PM (cMo6P)

179

stuiec,

Unfortunately that was only a meeting abstract. I will try to find the follow-up article, if they ever published it, and see exactly what they considered street conditions, realistic volumes, temperatures, etc. The stuff I have read in the last decade does not comport with that conclusion. And keep in mind that even so, the conditions in which tthis would be used are not "street conditions".

Posted by: Brad at June 09, 2010 03:12 PM (GkYyh)

180 #170  Think of the SAW movies.  If the bad guys surround the buried IED with buried dirty needles, then they can make the bomb disposal techs have to go through extra effort and precautions to avoid getting stuck with the needles -- and their theory is that the extra effort, stress, anxiety and protective gloves may lead to the techs making mistakes that lead to more of the IEDs detonating during disposal.

Not to mention the bad guys getting a huge PR boost.

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 09, 2010 03:12 PM (c0A3e)

181

The HIV virus can survive in human blood, the length of time it survives is variable based on conditions, but it is tenacious. If this was not true, they would have no reason to screen HIV positive people out of donating blood.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at June 09, 2010 07:09 PM (RZ8pf)

In a biological medium, apparently HIV can survive a lot of abuse -- enough so that a company can separate out the blood clotting factors and process them into packaged materials for delivery to hemophiliacs, and the HIV can be alive in those products.  The barrel of a hypodermic needle is a small test-tube for storing a tiny blood sample, and the blood in that tube protects the HIV sufficiently to keep it infectious for a while -- days, at least, unless the needle gets cleaned or baked.

Posted by: stuiec at June 09, 2010 03:14 PM (7AOgy)

182 The concept isn't to spread the HIV or the Hep via the explosion, but to slow down the EOD experts.  You've seen COPs when they ask the suspect if they have anything that is going to poke them before a search - same idea.

They want to slow down the process to increase the resource cost for IED removal and up the chances for a spoiling attack.  Mixing anti-tank mines with anti-personnel mines or a grenade underneath is (was) a common practice.  Mines (and IED) should be covered by observation and fire to be truly effective.  This is just silly crap, a secondary explosive device or prepared mortar barrage would be more effective, if Mo was so inclined or capable. 

What it tells me is that they are getting their asses kicked.  It take effort to build an IED; to protect those resources with something that can be removed using a good pair of gloves is desperation.

Posted by: Jean at June 09, 2010 03:15 PM (CPefM)

183 I'm on it.  I opened a Breast Evaluation Center.

Your nobility, it amazes.

Nice tits, by the way.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 03:15 PM (o3kbt)

184 Michelle Obama's recent outfit reminds one of a rutabaga cleverly dressed in a toga and a corset.

Posted by: dagny at June 09, 2010 03:15 PM (FoUOO)

185

Think of the SAW movies.  If the bad guys surround the buried IED with buried dirty needles, then they can make the bomb disposal techs have to go through extra effort and precautions to avoid getting stuck with the needles -- and their theory is that the extra effort, stress, anxiety and protective gloves may lead to the techs making mistakes that lead to more of the IEDs detonating during disposal.

Posted by: stuiec at June 09, 2010 07:07 PM (7AOgy)


Oh ok. gotcha 

Posted by: kawfytawk at June 09, 2010 03:16 PM (lFt0D)

186

If you choose not to believe this, feel free to do a Bing search and research it yourselves.

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at June 09, 2010 07:09 PM (RZ8pf)


I understand your point and what Bing says. But as a first responder for many years, I had been taught that the HIV virus is very weak in relation to other viruses. IOW, I'm probably assured of getting infected from sharing needles with blood in them, getting a transfusion with tainted blood, having a large bleeding wound and getting infected blood on it, drinking breast milk with open bleeding sores in my mouth, or having a penis tear the walls of the anus and then ejaculating his tainted semen into same said anus. (Sorry, graphic I know.)

Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 09, 2010 03:16 PM (nxUYP)

187 I was just kidding.  I don't have twenty bucks.

Suckers.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 03:16 PM (o3kbt)

188

Posted by: Brad at June 09, 2010 07:12 PM (GkYyh)

But it doesn't even have to work from a HIV transmission angle -- if the bomb tech starts feeling around the IED and gets stuck with a dirty needle, he only has to be thrown off his game by a small margin to make it far more likely that he'll accidentally set the bomb off.  The idea isn't to give bomb disposal techs HIV infections that won't even take them off the battlefield, much less kill them in anything short of several years.  It's to render them ineffectual in their duties through psychological pressure.

Posted by: stuiec at June 09, 2010 03:18 PM (7AOgy)

189 I was just kidding.  I don't have twenty bucks.

Suckers.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 07:16 PM (o3kbt)

You WELSHER!  And to think I had my vocal cords removed for this!

Posted by: stuiec at June 09, 2010 03:19 PM (7AOgy)

190

There's a Clancy book (just drew a blank on the title) where terrorists use pureed rhesus monkey kidneys to grow a hemmorhagic fever like Ebola and then use aerosols to disperse it through the HVAC system into a packed sports arena.

I aplogize, I haven't read it for years. Fuck me, what was that called?

 

Posted by: ErikW at June 09, 2010 03:19 PM (w9k87)

191 #192 There's a Clancy book (just drew a blank on the title) where terrorists use pureed rhesus monkey kidneys to grow a hemmorhagic fever like Ebola and then use aerosols to disperse it through the HVAC system into a packed sports arena.

 Executive Orders?


Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 09, 2010 03:21 PM (c0A3e)

192 Samuel Adams: You had me at "penis tear"

Posted by: Andrew Sullllllivan at June 09, 2010 03:21 PM (YZISw)

193

You WELSHER!  And to think I had my vocal cords removed for this!

Uh, that's racist. Use "indian giver"

Posted by: dagny at June 09, 2010 03:21 PM (FoUOO)

194 ErikW - "Stupid CONCOPS to Scare the Sheep"

Posted by: Jean at June 09, 2010 03:22 PM (CPefM)

195 Rutabagas aren't from Kashyyyk, otherwise they'd get intercepted at customs.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 09, 2010 03:22 PM (0QJjg)

196 Ok, but that is a different arguement all together; if they want to throw them off their game, maybe they should spread pre-chopped spicnach grown in CA around the bomb.

Posted by: Brad at June 09, 2010 03:23 PM (GkYyh)

197 "There's a Clancy book (just drew a blank on the title) where terrorists use pureed rhesus monkey kidneys to grow a hemmorhagic fever like Ebola and then use aerosols to disperse it through the HVAC system into a packed sports arena.

 Executive Orders?


Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 09, 2010 07:21 PM
"


I don't know, but one of the mythological WMDs that Saddam had was exactly this kind of fever.  Granted, the NYT says he didn't have any, so I'm not supposed to bring it up, but thank God we got rid of that monster.  Bush will never get credit for preventing a major WMD attack from Saddam, but he still did prevent exactly that.

Posted by: Lex Luthor, Ruler of Australia at June 09, 2010 03:23 PM (dUOK+)

198 There's a Clancy book (just drew a blank on the title) where terrorists use pureed rhesus monkey kidneys to grow a hemmorhagic fever like Ebola and then use aerosols to disperse it through the HVAC system into a packed sports arena.

I always wondered where Rhesus Pieces came from.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 09, 2010 03:23 PM (0QJjg)

199  .....having a large bleeding wound and getting infected blood on it, drinking breast milk with open bleeding sores in my mouth, or having a penis tear the walls of the anus and then ejaculating his tainted semen into same said anus. (Sorry, graphic I know.)

Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 09, 2010 07:16 PM (nxUYP)

Newsletter?

Posted by: The Drizzle at June 09, 2010 03:24 PM (AaGVW)

200 And to think I had my vocal cords removed for this!

Posted by: stuiec at June 09, 2010 07:19 PM (7AOgy)

Can you talk to my wife about how to place a bet?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 03:24 PM (o3kbt)

201

Executive Orders?

That's it! That was one of Clancy's better books.

Posted by: ErikW at June 09, 2010 03:24 PM (w9k87)

202 Being an ex-EOD guy, we only gave a shit about what makes it go boom. What's in it means nothing unless it was VX or something.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 09, 2010 07:10 PM (nxUYP)

So the hypothetical is, if you reached around or under the IED and felt a sharp stab in your finger, and found a used hypodermic needle sticking out of it when you pulled your hand out, would that affect your concentration and the speed with which you carried out disarming the IED?  Because apparently the tactic isn't needles inside the IED, it's needles in the dirt in which the IED is buried.

I can imagine countermeasures, like using a really powerful permanent magnet to sweep for the needles in the dirt -- unless, of course, the magnet had the potential to trigger the IED somehow.

Posted by: stuiec at June 09, 2010 03:24 PM (7AOgy)

203 The name of the book was "Get Off My Plane."

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 09, 2010 03:25 PM (0QJjg)

204 That's a featuwe, Samuew, not a bug.

Posted by: bawney fwank at June 09, 2010 03:25 PM (7b1Uc)

205 And to think I had my vocal cords removed for this!

Posted by: stuiec at June 09, 2010 07:19 PM (7AOgy)

Can you talk to my wife about how to place a bet?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 07:24 PM (o3kbt)

Not any more -- not without my vocal cords.  Duh.

Posted by: stuiec at June 09, 2010 03:25 PM (7AOgy)

206

Executive Orders?

 

Yup.

Posted by: Soona at June 09, 2010 03:26 PM (L7/mf)

207 having a large bleeding wound and getting infected blood on it, drinking breast milk with open bleeding sores in my mouth, or having a penis tear the walls of the anus and then ejaculating his tainted semen into same said anus. (Sorry, graphic I know. Is this what you call a typical Wednesday night?

Posted by: popsicle, Man! at June 09, 2010 03:26 PM (4Kl5M)

208

pureed rhesus monkey kidneys

Actually, that was from Iron Chef.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 09, 2010 03:26 PM (0QJjg)

209 There's a Clancy book (just drew a blank on the title) where terrorists use pureed rhesus monkey kidneys to grow a hemmorhagic fever like Ebola and then use aerosols to disperse it through the HVAC system into a packed sports arena.

I always wondered where Rhesus Pieces came from.

And that's our show.  Tip your waiters and waitresses on the way out.

I read that one, too.  Was it "Executive Orders" where President Ryan juiced the Iranian leader at the end?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 03:26 PM (o3kbt)

210

Uh, that's racist. Use "indian giver"

Posted by: dagny at June 09, 2010 07:21 PM (FoUOO)

The Welsh aren't a race, they're a nation of leek-eaters.

"Men of Harlech, stop your dreaming...."

Posted by: stuiec at June 09, 2010 03:27 PM (7AOgy)

211

having a penis tear the walls of the anus

Tear down this wall!

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 09, 2010 03:27 PM (0QJjg)

212 I don't know, but one of the mythological WMDs that Saddam had was exactly this kind of fever.
Crimea Congo Hemorrhagic Fever. And I'm sure Saddam was working on its cure.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 09, 2010 03:27 PM (7b1Uc)

213 #211  I read that one, too.  Was it "Executive Orders" where President Ryan juiced the Iranian leader at the end?

Hell yeah, right on live TV.  "This is the answer from the United States..."

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 09, 2010 03:28 PM (c0A3e)

214 Posted by: stuiec at June 09, 2010 07:24 PM (7AOgy)

No, we are focused on teh boom. And, we wouldn't reach around with hands that could get poked with something in reference to a bomb. Cameras, robots, or mirrors do the poking around if you know what I mean.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 09, 2010 03:28 PM (nxUYP)

215 Stuec, you sucker, they are dry. No maus.

Posted by: raykon at June 09, 2010 03:29 PM (zX2px)

216 OT:Linked in the newest article at Hotair

Three days after the explosion of the Deepwater Horizon in the Gulf of Mexico, the Dutch government offered to help.

It was willing to provide ships outfitted with oil-skimming booms, and it proposed a plan for building sand barriers to protect sensitive marshlands.

The response from the Obama administration and BP, which are coordinating the cleanup: “The embassy got a nice letter from the administration that said, ‘Thanks, but no thanks,'” said Geert Visser, consul general for the Netherlands in Houston.

Now, almost seven weeks later, as the oil spewing from the battered well spreads across the Gulf and soils pristine beaches and coastline, BP and our government have reconsidered....


Obama knew how bad it would be (there are reports out they knew the day of the explosion) and he avoided any effort to clean up the spill.  I suppose it's anyone's guess as to why but Rahm's famous quote about not letting crises go to waste and his own words about putting carbon industries out of business lead me to a pretty inescapable, and ominous, conclusion.


Posted by: Methos at June 09, 2010 03:29 PM (Xsi7M)

217 And tonight's secret ingredient...
Rhesus Monkey kidneys!!!

Posted by: The Chairman at June 09, 2010 03:29 PM (7b1Uc)

218 Crimea Congo Hemorrhagic Fever

I got that from a toilet seat, once.  Bloody tenacious.

Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at June 09, 2010 03:29 PM (o3kbt)

219 Since I'm not Dr. Drew, I think I fucked up when I explained the tearing of the anus.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 09, 2010 03:29 PM (nxUYP)

220 Hell yeah, right on live TV.  "This is the answer from the United States..."

Good policy is good politics.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 03:30 PM (o3kbt)

221 Fukui-san!

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 09, 2010 03:30 PM (0QJjg)

222

 It's to render them ineffectual in their duties through psychological pressure.

I hear you. But whether this is why or whether it's because it will make the news if they say they're doing this with HIV, I'm going with because it will make the news. And frankly, if I were approaching an IED in theater, HIV would be pretty far down on my list of concerns. Hell, if I were approaching an IED in Chucky Cheese's, HIV wouldn't rate.

Posted by: spongeworthy at June 09, 2010 03:30 PM (rplL3)

223 No, we are focused on teh boom. And, we wouldn't reach around with hands that could get poked with something in reference to a bomb. Cameras, robots, or mirrors do the poking around if you know what I mean.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 09, 2010 07:28 PM (nxUYP)

Well, then, it sounds like the Taliban picked an idea that sounded good on paper but won't yield them much benefit in practice.  (I imagine that they use a lot of bare-handed manipulation when they place the things, so they may have assumed that the ISAF forces use the same methods to dig 'em up.)

Posted by: stuiec at June 09, 2010 03:30 PM (7AOgy)

224 Uncle Janet says that the Tea Partiers are far more likely to set off one of these awful HIV bombs than a crazy head-choppin muz. So relax and enjoy the end of our country.

Also, ass.

Posted by: sifty at June 09, 2010 03:31 PM (BJIhx)

225 ... and those most-rare ingredients in the world...
Raykon's Tiny Brain and Penis!!!

Posted by: The Chairman at June 09, 2010 03:31 PM (7b1Uc)

226 Let nuke em with Jesus juice.

Posted by: raykon at June 09, 2010 03:31 PM (zX2px)

227 Hell, if I were approaching an IED in Chucky Cheese's, HIV wouldn't rate.

No shit.  That crust is fucking toxic.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 03:32 PM (o3kbt)

228 She doesn't have a brain cons. She is an imbecile.

Posted by: raykon at June 09, 2010 03:33 PM (zX2px)

229 I'm not a gynecologist, but I'll take a look!

Posted by: Wodeshed at June 09, 2010 07:33 PM (MFbfZ)

Again, I'm on it.  I'm a giver.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 03:33 PM (o3kbt)

230 She doesn't have a brain cons. She is an imbecile.

Awww.  Isn't it cute when they grow up from dipshit to full on moonbat?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 03:34 PM (o3kbt)

231 She doesn't have a brain cons. She is an imbecile.

Who, your mother?

Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 09, 2010 03:35 PM (nxUYP)

232 Yeah. Cute like a stomach pump.

Posted by: sifty at June 09, 2010 03:35 PM (BJIhx)

233

231 She's brillant. You are an imbecile, asswipe.

 

Posted by: dagny at June 09, 2010 03:35 PM (FoUOO)

234 She doesn't have a brain cons. She is an imbecile.

At the moment, I was looking at her tits.  Those are those bumpy things up front.  Men like them. 

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 03:36 PM (o3kbt)

Posted by: ray stevens at June 09, 2010 03:36 PM (HtIec)

236
Sarah's breasts look Marvelous!


I'm not a gynecologist, but I'll take a look!

Posted by: Wodeshed at June 09, 2010 07:33 PM (MFbfZ)

Never mind.  I'm a breastologist, and I'll take a look and report back soon!

Posted by: Fish at June 09, 2010 03:36 PM (v1gw3)

237 I'm not a gynecologist, but I'll take a look!

Hell, I'll settle for a smell. I'm guessing truffles with just a hint of musk. Damn, I love that woman....'s ideas.

Posted by: gator at June 09, 2010 03:36 PM (XBdMr)

238

Who, your mother?

Ya beat me, dammit!

Posted by: ErikW at June 09, 2010 03:36 PM (w9k87)

239 wouldn't the heat and energy created by an explosion kill the virus?

Posted by: bulwark at June 09, 2010 03:36 PM (5IU9c)

240 231 She doesn't have a brain cons. She is an imbecile.

Heh, speak for thyself.

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 09, 2010 03:37 PM (c0A3e)

241 My favourite fruit is word salad.

Posted by: Dr Raykon, DDS at June 09, 2010 03:37 PM (wOtDN)

242 Eww boobies! Yuck

Posted by: gheykone at June 09, 2010 03:37 PM (BJIhx)

243 Hmm. Raykon's Tiny Brain and Penis, eh? Due to their incredibly small size, they run up to ¥10,000,000 in the Tokyo marketplace. They're very bland, however, so I think Raykon's Tiny Brain and Penis ice cream will be featured tonight as a palette cleanser. Isn't that expected, Oto?

Posted by: Fukui-san at June 09, 2010 03:37 PM (7b1Uc)

244 You guys still think that Obama doesn't want to take over the oil companies? What other possible reason could he have for letting as much damage happen as possible? Why didn't he give Jindel what he wanted in booms and sandbars? Why did he refuse help from the Dutch? Why is he slow rolling this? He wants damage, he wants a crisis, he wants to blame the oil companies and take them over.

Posted by: dagny at June 09, 2010 03:38 PM (FoUOO)

245 Sarah sure looked hot at the Belmont last weekend

Posted by: bulwark at June 09, 2010 03:38 PM (5IU9c)

246 "231 She's brillant. You are an imbecile, asswipe."

Thanks Dag. Shes brilliant like Ayn Rand is brilliant. Repetition.

Posted by: raykon at June 09, 2010 03:38 PM (zX2px)

247 wrong thread

Posted by: ray stevens at June 09, 2010 03:38 PM (HtIec)

248 I'm fine with nuking these bastards back to the Stone Age...

Wouldn't that be forward to the Stone Age.


Yeah, low hanging fruit.

Posted by: damian at June 09, 2010 03:38 PM (4WbTI)

249 215 Posted by: stuiec at June 09, 2010 07:24 PM (7AOgy)

No, we are focused on teh boom. And, we wouldn't reach around with hands that could get poked with something in reference to a bomb. Cameras, robots, or mirrors do the poking around if you know what I mean.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 09, 2010 07:28 PM (nxUYP)

good to know, so unlikely to become infected in any event,

1. unlikely they woul;d have properly stored to have a viable lasting virus?

2.heat explosion kill virus, 

3 even if in general area with debris flying? correct.

4. after boom. robots and such, clarification before handling.

likely killed virus?

Posted by: willow at June 09, 2010 03:39 PM (HyUIR)

250 Hoax or not I'm still cool with the nukes flying thing.

Posted by: huh at June 09, 2010 03:39 PM (+ABdJ)

251
Raykon's the guy who lounges in a beanbag chair watching cartoons,  eating Cheetos, and complains to his doctor about the smallness of his dick and its orange color.

Posted by: Fish at June 09, 2010 03:39 PM (v1gw3)

252 She so dumb she thinks economics is all about profits and earnings ratios.

Posted by: Dr Raykon, DDS at June 09, 2010 03:39 PM (wOtDN)

253 She doesn't have a brain cons. She is an imbecile.

Well, you have a point.  Compared to the brilliance of "Sand Wedge Barry", I suppose we all fall short.

And to repeat:  Boobies.  Bumpy things.  I can suggest several websites if you would like to learn more.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 03:39 PM (o3kbt)

254

Sarah sure lookeds hot at the Belmont last weekend all the damn time, baby.

FIFY

Posted by: gator at June 09, 2010 03:40 PM (XBdMr)

255 "At the moment, I was looking at her tits.  Those are those bumpy things up front.  Men like them. "

Men like smart women also. Unless they are con men.

Posted by: raykon at June 09, 2010 03:40 PM (zX2px)

256 It's to render them ineffectual in their duties through psychological pressure.

The EOD guys sort of the focused type, being target locked in their case is a good thing.  Remember initial success or total failure. 

Posted by: Jean at June 09, 2010 03:40 PM (CPefM)

257 This picture might make it easier to judge whether Sarah's had some "work" done.

Posted by: conscious and amazed at the beauty they bring at June 09, 2010 03:40 PM (YVZlY)

258 Now granted, the road wasn't easy.  That pesky God you cons like so much used to whisper in my ear, as I was sitting there in "Introduction to Word 95" class flanked by women whose breasts were so large and pointy they jutted straight into their computer monitors, "Raykon!  I command thee to taketh these long nipples for thy own!"  But I was too smart for that bastard.  "FUCK YOU!"  I screamed back at him and returned furiously to my labors.  Now, all these years later, I'm a rich internationally-famous hacker who's ready to dump $10-a-gallon gas into my Ferrari any damn time Obama feels like slapping that federal tax on it.  It just makes economic sense.

Posted by: Lt. Gen. Raykon, USAF (Ret.) at June 09, 2010 03:40 PM (uxX/z)

259 Thanks Dag. Shes brilliant like Ayn Rand is brilliant. Repetition.

No not repetition, truth. Rand is proving just how right she was. BTW, don't besmirch the USAF by claiming to be a vet.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 09, 2010 03:41 PM (nxUYP)

260 Right you are, Fukui-san.

Posted by: Shinichirō Ōta at June 09, 2010 03:41 PM (7b1Uc)

261
I also like taking it up the squeakhole from masculine men like Barney Frank.

Posted by: Miss Raykon at June 09, 2010 03:41 PM (v1gw3)

262 Men like smart women also. Unless they are con men.

Smart women with great tits are what men like. 

Lesson 2:  Wrenches.  They're "turny things".  I even have a website that combines wrenches and boobies, if you'd like to learn more.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 03:42 PM (o3kbt)

263 Huh. So that's why my peter is orange? I thought it was the shitty spray-tan dripping off my moobs.

Posted by: raykon at June 09, 2010 03:42 PM (w9k87)

264 we women should set up a fund to buy men their own breast implants.

Posted by: willow at June 09, 2010 03:42 PM (HyUIR)

265

Jeeeezus, whose pussy would you rather lick, assnut?

Sarah's or Obama's?????

Posted by: gator at June 09, 2010 03:42 PM (XBdMr)

266

I wonder when the left is going to give up this "conservatives are stupid" mantra? It's so kindergarten. They are proved wrong over and over again but they just can't stop.....it's like they are STUPID........

Hey who did you elect as your dem senatorial candidate in SC smartboy? Ha.

Posted by: dagny at June 09, 2010 03:42 PM (FoUOO)

267 "FUCK YOU!"  I screamed back at him and returned furiously to my labors."

Sarah, is that you? Please, take a break from having all those kids. God was only kidding.

Posted by: raykon at June 09, 2010 03:43 PM (zX2px)

268 This picture might make it easier to judge whether Sarah's had some "work" done.

Posted by: conscious and amazed at the beauty they bring at June 09, 2010 07:40 PM (YVZlY)

My bet is that's a photoshop.  Sarah's still a politician.  I wouldn't think that she'd lay her goodies out like that.

If it isn't a photoshop then it confirms everything I always knew:  I'd knock the bottom out of that if both my wife and Todd didn't own firearms.


Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 03:44 PM (o3kbt)

269

Where did they get the material?  What, you didn't think goats and camels could transmit the disease?  Pass the goat/camel is one of the martyrs' favorite party games!

 

Seriously...if this is true, it is bio-warfare using weapons of mass destruction.  And.  Should.  Be.  Responded.  To.  Accordingly.

Posted by: NC Ref at June 09, 2010 03:45 PM (h6Yyn)

270 photoshopped

Posted by: bulwark at June 09, 2010 03:46 PM (5IU9c)

271 Sarah, is that you? Please, take a break from having all those kids. God was only kidding.

Posted by: raykon at June 09, 2010 07:43 PM (zX2px)


Funny, and they will all turn out infinitely better than you ever did. Including Trig.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 09, 2010 03:46 PM (nxUYP)

272 Men like smart women also.
So that's why you're attracted to 10-year-olds, raykon, because they have a higher  intellectual capacity than you?

Posted by: andycanuck at June 09, 2010 03:46 PM (7b1Uc)

273
Definitely a photoshop. I recognize those tits and they belong to Britney Spears, but not sure about the merkin. 

Posted by: Fish at June 09, 2010 03:46 PM (v1gw3)

274 Joe The Biden: Now there is a true man of genius.

Posted by: popsicle maniac at June 09, 2010 03:46 PM (4Kl5M)

275 Obama cares about me and wants me to be happy.

Posted by: Cheif Polisher of Obama's Staff Gen. Raykon at June 09, 2010 03:46 PM (BJIhx)

276

photoshopped

And tastefully done, I might add.

Posted by: gator at June 09, 2010 03:47 PM (XBdMr)

277 That IS a fake. Hers are not that big.

Posted by: Vic at June 09, 2010 03:47 PM (6taRI)

278 Men like smart women also. How many subscriptions did smart girl magazine sell last year?

Posted by: bulwark at June 09, 2010 03:49 PM (5IU9c)

279 >>280 That IS a fake. Hers are not that big.



Blasphemy.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at June 09, 2010 03:49 PM (pEK05)

280 Please, take a break from having all those kids. God was only kidding.

God wasn't kidding.  We're here to outbreed you.  That's because girls let us touch them.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 03:49 PM (o3kbt)

281


rayfag, please address the question from above.  Have you ever in your post-pubescent life (provided they are actually there yet) actually touched a human breast?

Posted by: hobgoblin at June 09, 2010 03:49 PM (BXLor)

282 It seems one might turn this Taliban HIV campaign on it's head by spreading the word in Taliban infected neighborhoods that some of the Taliban have HIV and associating with them and their weapons could infect you with the AIDS virus. 

Posted by: drfredc at June 09, 2010 03:49 PM (puRnk)

283

So ..Raykon are one of those men that would call a woman a breeder because she loves children , chose to keep them and think of them as a gift, and loves family life.

classy

Posted by: willow at June 09, 2010 03:50 PM (HyUIR)

284 Cons, I order you to go forth and multiply. Go forth and make money. Go forth and submit your sorry carcass to the corporate masters you worship. Amen

Posted by: Gen raykon at June 09, 2010 03:50 PM (zX2px)

285 280 That IS a fake. Hers are not that big.

It's not even the same person, is it?

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 09, 2010 03:50 PM (c0A3e)

286 That IS a fake. Hers are not that big.

Posted by: Vic at June 09, 2010 07:47 PM (6taRI)

Thanks, asshole.  That ruined it.

Well, not really.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 03:51 PM (o3kbt)

287 That IS a fake. Hers are not that big.

oops, I take that back, they could be hers although she is not known for clothes that show a lot of cleavage.

I found her original beauty pageant pics with the swimsuit picture. They are that big.

Posted by: Vic at June 09, 2010 03:51 PM (6taRI)

288 Who made the pedarist the authority on how many children a happily married, attractive woman with a nice income should have? What possible difference could it make to him/it? Jealously is the only answer. Can't reproduce the way he/its doing it.

Posted by: dagny at June 09, 2010 03:51 PM (FoUOO)

289 I wonder when the left is going to give up this "conservatives are stupid" mantra?

Sometime after they claim Obama was really a conservative.

Posted by: Methos at June 09, 2010 03:52 PM (Xsi7M)

290 rayfag, please address the question from above.  Have you ever in your post-pubescent life (provided they are actually there yet) actually touched a human breast?

He was breast fed by a drug addled hooker from San Francisco.  That counts, dude.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 03:52 PM (o3kbt)

291 We could keep the Taliban away from those roads by placing bars of soap here and there next to the roadways. 

Posted by: rdbrewer at June 09, 2010 03:52 PM (fCzr4)

292 Yeah, that photo's clearly a fake, albeit a very skillfully done one.  Palin appears to be about the age she is now in it, and as she held elective office for most of the last decade there isn't a chance in hell she'd have posed for a picture like that.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at June 09, 2010 03:52 PM (uxX/z)

293
Can't reproduce the way he/its doing it.

Posted by: dagny at June 09, 2010 07:51 PM (FoUOO)

Bopping the cat doesn't get it done!

Posted by: Fish at June 09, 2010 03:52 PM (v1gw3)

294 For those interested

Herr????

http://tinyurl.com/34l4usa

Posted by: Vic at June 09, 2010 03:53 PM (6taRI)

295 I found her original beauty pageant pics with the swimsuit picture. They are that big.

Posted by: Vic at June 09, 2010 07:51 PM (6taRI)

YOU KEEP TALKING ABOUT HER TITS AND NOT PROVIDING A LINK!  YOU ARE BANNED!!!!!!

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 03:53 PM (o3kbt)

296 290 That IS a fake. Hers are not that big.

oops, I take that back, they could be hers although she is not known for clothes that show a lot of cleavage.

I found her original beauty pageant pics with the swimsuit picture. They are that big.

Posted by: Vic at June 09, 2010 07:51 PM (6taRI)

Question: What's the ruler for?

Posted by: Dwight Schrute at June 09, 2010 03:53 PM (YVZlY)

297 So, do any of you guys find Michelle as irresistably sexy as I do?

Posted by: Rayklon-B at June 09, 2010 03:54 PM (mR7mk)

298 Don't be too hard on raydork, his mama made him feed the donkey after the show.

It's that kinda trauma that builds solid liberal trolls.

Posted by: sifty at June 09, 2010 03:54 PM (BJIhx)

299 Oh, OK.

Sorry Vic

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 03:54 PM (o3kbt)

300 296 or furious masturbating to images of Obama.

Posted by: dagny at June 09, 2010 03:54 PM (FoUOO)

301

YOU KEEP TALKING ABOUT HER TITS AND NOT PROVIDING A LINK!  YOU ARE BANNED!!!!!!

No shit, help a brother out!

Posted by: ErikW at June 09, 2010 03:54 PM (w9k87)

302 Cons, I order you to go forth and multiply. Go forth and make money. Go forth and submit your sorry carcass to the corporate masters you worship. Amen

Why thank you. I have had three children. My oldest is 25 and has a masters degree. My two sons are 15 and 13 and doing quite well thank you. They have been raised right and will go forth and make plenty of money. Thanks for the vote of confidence.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 09, 2010 03:55 PM (nxUYP)

303 And thanks.

Thanks for the Mammaries.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 03:55 PM (o3kbt)

304 Oops.

Posted by: ErikW at June 09, 2010 03:55 PM (w9k87)

305 " chose to keep them and think of them as a gift, and loves family life."

She loves family life? Then why is she putting her kids through what she is doing? Shes a glamor hog, a glutton for pleasure with lipstick.


Posted by: Gen raykon at June 09, 2010 03:55 PM (zX2px)

306 Raykon, I gave you a chance for some real action years ago but you preferred to sit there downloading "Blossom" porn from Usenet in your "Introduction to Word 95" class.  Now you can just get bent.

Posted by: God at June 09, 2010 03:56 PM (uxX/z)

307 Read the posts, dickhead.

Posted by: ErikW at June 09, 2010 03:56 PM (w9k87)

308 Why thank you. I have had three children. My oldest is 25 and has a masters degree. My two sons are 15 and 13 and doing quite well thank you. They have been raised right and will go forth and make plenty of money. Thanks for the vote of confidence.

Haha!!  Number 4 in the oven.  Bitter clingers.  Bibles, guns, Constitution, the WHOLE FUCKING DEAL.  I'm even going to buy each of them a Gaia killing pickup truck, a copy of "Wealth of Nations", and a truncheon when they turn 12.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 03:57 PM (o3kbt)

309 OK, you morons, here is the picture that started all the boob job rumors: Sarah Palin at the Belmont Stakes.

Posted by: stuiec at June 09, 2010 03:58 PM (7AOgy)

310 I'm even going to buy each of them a Gaia killing pickup truck, a copy of "Wealth of Nations", and a truncheon when they turn 12.

Pickup truck? Adopt me.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 09, 2010 03:58 PM (mR7mk)

311

Raykon,

hmm, so you alos believe a woman should stay in the kitche.

thanks , good to know.

so libs, don't really like children

and blame women if they are successful!

Posted by: willow at June 09, 2010 03:59 PM (HyUIR)

312 Has anyone broached the subject of shit-canning this woman-hating dunce raykon?

Because I'm not always here to vote with my kid being two and all. But I vote yea.

Posted by: sifty at June 09, 2010 03:59 PM (BJIhx)

313

I think not killing your kids is a good start. The worst mothers are the ones that kill their babies. Seems evident but not for the left.

"oooooh look what she's putting them through." Spare me.

Posted by: dagny at June 09, 2010 04:00 PM (FoUOO)

314 OK, you morons, here is the picture that started all the boob job rumors: Sarah Palin at the Belmont Stakes.

I'd already seen that pic, man.

Which, of course, is why I looked at it again.

Raykon, Sarah's a girl.  "Girl". 

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 04:00 PM (o3kbt)

315 Haha!!  Number 4 in the oven.  Bitter clingers.  Bibles, guns, Constitution, the WHOLE FUCKING DEAL.  I'm even going to buy each of them a Gaia killing pickup truck, a copy of "Wealth of Nations", and a truncheon when they turn 12.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 07:57 PM (o3kbt)


Thank God we live in America! Huzzah! Raycunt could not possibly understand real America. However, if he got laid, he just might.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 09, 2010 04:00 PM (nxUYP)

316 I'm guessing incompetence rather than a true hoax.  It is true that HIV doesn't last long outside of the human body, but there's no reason to think al Quaeda in Afghanistan are bright enough to know that or that getting used needles is beyond them.

Posted by: Dave R. at June 09, 2010 04:00 PM (MUcul)

317 "and blame women if they are successful!"

I like Hillary.

You ever read 'Where the Red Fern Grows', Willow?

Posted by: Gen raykon at June 09, 2010 04:01 PM (zX2px)

318 Pickup truck? Adopt me. 

If I adopt you then I can't use you in my project to produce a breed of archconservative evil geniuses.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 04:01 PM (o3kbt)

319

Funny, and they will all turn out infinitely better than you ever did. Including Trig.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 09, 2010 07:46 PM (nxUYP)

Seriously.  I can see raykon pushing a mop in a Wendy's under the watchful eye of Trig Palin, who by that time will own a half-dozen franchises.

Posted by: stuiec at June 09, 2010 04:01 PM (7AOgy)

320 If I adopt you then I can't use you in my project to produce a breed of archconservative evil geniuses.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 08:01 PM (o3kbt)

So narrow-minded.  Did it stop Woody Allen?

Posted by: stuiec at June 09, 2010 04:02 PM (7AOgy)

321


rayfag,

One such "educational" site is called "kindgirls" and offers pictures without those scary things known as "men," so you won't feel embarrassed by the competition.

the girls are lovely and of legal age.  In other words, something you don't usually see yourself.

Posted by: hobgoblin at June 09, 2010 04:02 PM (BXLor)

322 I love Hillary, I love her mind. Sarah sucks. Her mind is mush.

Posted by: Gen raykon at June 09, 2010 04:03 PM (zX2px)

323 315 Has anyone broached the subject of shit-canning this woman-hating dunce raykon? Because I'm not always here to vote with my kid being two and all. But I vote yea. Posted by: sifty at June 09, 2010 07:59 PM (BJIhx) Aww, it's not like he's just twatting out useless, repetitive nonsense or anything. Now if he wanted to talk lacey wigs or shoes, I'm all ears.

Posted by: The Dread Pirate Neck Beard at June 09, 2010 04:03 PM (wOtDN)

324 the girls are lovely and of legal age.  In other words, something you don't usually see yourself.

That's presumptuous of you hobgoblin.  It all depends on the state and the playground.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 04:04 PM (o3kbt)

325 Has anyone broached the subject of shit-canning this woman-hating dunce raykon?

It does make economic sense.

Posted by: damian at June 09, 2010 04:04 PM (4WbTI)

326 "So narrow-minded.  Did it stop Woody Allen?"

Woody Allen is a genius, and the right will never understand him.

Posted by: Gen raykon at June 09, 2010 04:04 PM (zX2px)

327 Sometime after they claim Obama was really a conservative.

Posted by: Methos at June 09, 2010 07:52 PM (Xsi7M)

They claimed that all through the campaign.  Hell, David Brooks and David Frum and Peggy Noonan claimed that.  Double Hell, Brooks still does.

Posted by: stuiec at June 09, 2010 04:05 PM (7AOgy)

328

So you didn't mind Hillary putting herself in the spotlight? why?

About this:She loves family life? Then why is she putting her kids through what she is doing? Shes a glamor hog, a glutton for pleasure with lipstick.

can't be successful and have kids?

putting her kids through what?

Sorry Ray, It was You guys that PUT her family through Hell, You should have been much clearer how much you guys really care for women and children!

make-up is now a no-no?

Posted by: willow at June 09, 2010 04:05 PM (HyUIR)

329 I like Hillary.
Posted by: Gen raykon at June 09, 2010 08:01 PM (zX2px)

There's your fucking problem. She's proven beyond a reasonable doubt that's she's dumber than Obama if that was possible. During the campaign, I actually caught myself rooting for cankles, until she became Secretary of State. Then I realized that she is nothing more than the wife of a former President. Nothing more, useless as tits on a boar hog.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 09, 2010 04:05 PM (nxUYP)

330 Yeah, Hillary did it all on her own. Just used her mind and her winning personality. She just ran for office as an unknown and wins! Overcharge, whoops! I mean, reset! Running through sniper fire! whoops, I mean not running from sniper fire. Now, where did I put those whitewater files? Oh, I know, with the vast right wing conspiracy or was it with my name sake Sir Edmund Hilary?

Posted by: dagny at June 09, 2010 04:07 PM (FoUOO)

331 Woody Allen is a genius, and the right will never understand him.

That's because we live in a Platonist world, not a fantasy world.
You might've learned about such things in college.

But probably not.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 04:07 PM (o3kbt)

332 Then I realized that she is nothing more than the wife of a former President.

She's also a sleazy lawyer and fraudulent commodities trader, but that may just be resume padding.

Posted by: damian at June 09, 2010 04:07 PM (4WbTI)

333 Woody Allen is a genius, and the right will never understand him.

Posted by: Gen raykon at June 09, 2010 08:04 PM (zX2px)

Woody Allen is a piker.  Now, Roman Polanski is a genius: he didn't even have to be married to their mothers to molest a whole gaggle of parapubescent girls.

That IS your standard of intellectual accomplishment, isn't it, raykon?

Posted by: stuiec at June 09, 2010 04:08 PM (7AOgy)

334 Woody Allen is a genius, and the right will never understand him.

You're right. If I ever adopt a child, I will not fuck it.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 09, 2010 04:09 PM (nxUYP)

335

ok, c'mon,

who's sockpuppeting as  ray guy

cannot be for real.

Posted by: willow at June 09, 2010 04:09 PM (HyUIR)

336 Woody Allen:  Either you get him or your don't.

That's a fine test of intellectual acuity.

So, Raykon, who shot first?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 04:10 PM (o3kbt)

337 Wait, wait. Woody Allen makes crap films. I said so, so therefore, it's so.

Posted by: dagny at June 09, 2010 04:10 PM (FoUOO)

338 Plus Hillary may have had that guy whacked. So she has more execution executive experience than Obama.

Posted by: sifty at June 09, 2010 04:10 PM (BJIhx)

339 "That IS your standard of intellectual accomplishment, isn't it, raykon?"

He is good (last 5-6 ? movies are all I am really familiar with). His early movies, I don't know.

Posted by: Gen raykon at June 09, 2010 04:12 PM (zX2px)

340 Wait, wait. Woody Allen makes crap films. I said so, so therefore, it's so.

Posted by: dagny at June 09, 2010 08:10 PM (FoUOO)

The old "Appeal to Authority" argument. 

Could it be, just perhaps, that Woody Allen sucks merely because he makes really shitty, unfunny, poorly scripted, and cardboard character-infested films, and that you, dagny, merely recognized this fact?  Yeah.  Could be.

People at the "Hack's Union" are screaming for dues from this douchebag.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 04:13 PM (o3kbt)

341 The only thing Hillary should be given any credit for is her seeing or being told what a useless dunce Obama is.

Posted by: dagny at June 09, 2010 04:13 PM (FoUOO)

342 Raykon's a genius, and I never understood him.  But then I only understand daughter-fucking.

Posted by: Woody Allen at June 09, 2010 04:14 PM (uxX/z)

343 He is good

I could write better story lines by tracing them out in my own vomit as it runs down the gutter to get away from me.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 04:14 PM (o3kbt)

344 He is good (last 5-6 ? movies are all I am really familiar with). His early movies, I don't know.

No, he is not that good. He is rich however. Maybe you are confusing the two.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 09, 2010 04:14 PM (nxUYP)

345

Herr, the pedarist likes to come on here, see my moniker and announce that Rand is crap literature, like I give a shit what a libtard troll thinks. I was mimicking the pedarist.

Posted by: dagny at June 09, 2010 04:15 PM (FoUOO)

346 Woody Allen gives pederasts something to aspire to and shitty New York film critics something to stroke to.

Posted by: sifty at June 09, 2010 04:15 PM (BJIhx)

347

I'm a WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE bit confused.

Is this the MODERATE TALIBAN, of JOHN BRENNAN LEGEND.

or

The BATSHITCRAZYBALLSTOTHEWALLKILLTHEINFIDEL Taliban?

Posted by: gus at June 09, 2010 04:16 PM (Vqruj)

348 Everybody is a genius when you are really really stoned and need another boy...

Posted by: dagny at June 09, 2010 04:16 PM (FoUOO)

349

sift, leftism is an illness, they also defended polanski.

it's ok to damage people if it's one of their group.

Posted by: willow at June 09, 2010 04:16 PM (HyUIR)

350 Has to be Obama's friends THE MODERATE TALIBAN. Else how would they get the needles with HIV?

Posted by: dagny at June 09, 2010 04:18 PM (FoUOO)

351

Posted by: dagny at June 09, 2010 08:15 PM (FoUOO)

I was just fuckin' witcha, using you as a foil, etc.  Internet thingy doesn't carry tone of voice well.  No offense intended..

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 04:19 PM (o3kbt)

352 I'm waiting for Raycunt to get all drunk and gay like he did last night. I also want to hear some more lies about his Air Force record.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 09, 2010 04:20 PM (nxUYP)

353 But I will admit, I hate the way Ayn Rand wrote.  The content was awesome, but it's a struggle to cut through her phrasing sometimes.  Not a relaxing read.

But then again it's not supposed to be.  Dostoevsky went smoother.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 04:21 PM (o3kbt)

354

Did you guys see the pic of Sarah Palin at the Horse Race.

 

I  know she's not technically President yet, but I instinctually SALUTED, for about 4 hours.  Then I consulted my Doctor as the package suggested.

Posted by: gus at June 09, 2010 04:24 PM (Vqruj)

355 But then again it's not supposed to be.  Dostoevsky went smoother.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 08:21 PM (o3kbt)


Yeah, and Marx sounded kinda whiny. I thought writers were men back in the 19th century. Mark Twain was a man, Edgar Allan Poe was fucked up, but he didn't make many excuses. Marx though, wrote like he grew up with bullies taking his lunch money constantly.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 09, 2010 04:24 PM (nxUYP)

356 No, he is not that good. He is rich however. Maybe you are confusing the two. Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 09, 2010 08:14 PM (nxUYP) MC Hammer is a genius. You cons wouldn't understand the soul-stirring beauty of "U Can't Touch This" or "Pat My Penis".

Posted by: Dr. Raykon, DDS at June 09, 2010 04:25 PM (wOtDN)

357 " Not a relaxing read."

Atlas sucked. Poorly written. Repetition. Like con mantras.

Posted by: Gen raykon at June 09, 2010 04:27 PM (zX2px)

358

i shoudl look up how many poor souls now have aids in america

 uganda has succeeded in reducing hiv.

I know I'm being baited and I still can't resist.  First, while I wish Uganda well I'm not eager to take public health policy lessons from them.  Second, if you want to talk 1.1 million Americans with HIV you need to talk about the left's and the Democrats' succesful effort in the 1980's to prevent any rational response to AIDS.  At almost any other time in US history carriers would have been identified and humanely quarantined, but the disease happened to enter the US at a high-water mark of gay political power within the Democrat party and the Dems quashed any idea of quarantines as being fascist and discriminatory.  (But remember you can't call it a gay disease either!*)  But with a sane health and immigration policy HIV infection would be an order of magnitude better in the US today.

*The thing about HIV is it's a sexually transmitted disease only incidentally to being a blood-borne disease.  So, intravenous drug users are at high risk and practitioners of anal sex are at high risk due to micro-tears.  The transmission rate from vaginal sex is oddly not that high for a single encounter, so the spread among the heterosexual population is highly dependent on promiscuity.  That's why it's taken off in Africa, but the predictions of disaster in the US never fully came to pass.

 

Posted by: Dave R. at June 09, 2010 04:27 PM (MUcul)

359

gus, she is indeed a beautiful women, with a darned cute spouse.

what a team.

Posted by: willow at June 09, 2010 04:27 PM (HyUIR)

360 Yeah, and Marx sounded kinda whiny. I thought writers were men back in the 19th century. Mark Twain was a man, Edgar Allan Poe was fucked up, but he didn't make many excuses. Marx though, wrote like he grew up with bullies taking his lunch money constantly.

Maya Angelou passes as literature.  That is all.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 04:28 PM (o3kbt)

361 Dick & Jane sucked. Too short. Not enough character development. Just like con space programs.

Posted by: Dr. Raykon, DDS at June 09, 2010 04:28 PM (wOtDN)

362

Dave R. ack heck absolutely wasn't trying to bait you.

i absolutely did not know  any statistics. i was looking up and typing hope where i could and sorrow where it was.

srsly. sorry i came off that way.

Posted by: willow at June 09, 2010 04:30 PM (HyUIR)

363 And don't forget "The Shipping News", which I believe won a Pulitzer without ever actually completing a sentence.  My wife, a voracious reader, picked that one up and after about a page said "You ain't gonna fucking believe this.  Check this out."

So I did, and took it to my brother, a lawyer and famous grammar and writing hound.  He made it 4 sentence fragments before he broke out in laughter.  Or tears.  Same thing, in this context.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 04:31 PM (o3kbt)

364

Oh, I wasn't annoyed at you, Herr, I just wanted you to know what I was doing.

I liked the book for two reasons: 1. It seems obvious to me what happens when you cripple the producers and only have moochers and looters. She painted that world or her prediction of that world well. I chose the moniker because I wanted a name from literature that connoted a strong woman with economic and erotic sense.

2. It's long. I read very fast. I like long books. I love Michner for that reason. I also like Rutherford. The Russians, not so much. Too much angst.

Posted by: dagny at June 09, 2010 04:31 PM (FoUOO)

365 we the living  by Rand was light and easy to read. although not so much a study of history as a love story and explanation of the effect of Russian Revolution and the suffering it caused.

Posted by: willow at June 09, 2010 04:32 PM (HyUIR)

366 Atlas sucked. Poorly written. Repetition. Like con mantras.

Posted by: Gen raykon at June 09, 2010 08:27 PM (zX2px)

How the fuck would you know?  You're so illiterate as to be a liberal.  Your opinion is worthless amongst adults.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 04:32 PM (o3kbt)

367 If it ain't written on a tube of KY, raykon hasn't read it.

Posted by: sifty at June 09, 2010 04:33 PM (BJIhx)

368 Dreams From My Father sucked. Poorly written. unrealist. Like prog mantras.

Posted by: pvt reighcon at June 09, 2010 04:33 PM (HtIec)

369 "He made it 4 sentence fragments before he broke out in laughter. "

Oh brother. Go read Vonnegut.

You cons haven't a clue about literature, that's for sure.

Posted by: Gen raykon at June 09, 2010 04:34 PM (zX2px)

370 Rand  was a native Russian speaker. Writers have different styles--that doesn't mean that if you found it difficult to read that it was poorly written. Obama's favorite book, Native Son is tedious and has longer rants than Atlas. (But not as many um, er, uh, let me make that clears as an Obama sentence.)

Posted by: dagny at June 09, 2010 04:34 PM (FoUOO)

371 Atlas sucked. Poorly written. Repetition. Like con mantras.
Posted by: Gen raykon at June 09, 2010 08:27 PM (zX2px)

But she was right. How do you work your way around that? I honestly believe that Progressives need to be either deported or lined up and shot.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 09, 2010 04:34 PM (nxUYP)

372 You cons haven't a clue about literature, that's for sure.

Posted by: Gen raykon at June 09, 2010 08:34 PM (zX2px)


Really? You ever read Homer, dipshit?

Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 09, 2010 04:36 PM (nxUYP)

373 The Russians, not so much. Too much angst.

Posted by: dagny at June 09, 2010 08:31 PM (FoUOO)

I cast you out.  Begone.

Seriously, I find the Russians very true to life.  If the Russian inferiority complex is too much, try some of the short stories of Ivan Bunin.  Much "simpler" in their portrayal of Russian life and quicker and less dark in their character development.  Bunin was fucking awesome, but with a lighter tone.  Well, sometimes.

My personal fave is Dostoevsky's "The Idiot".  Fun, dark, and a great midwinter fireside book.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 04:37 PM (o3kbt)

374 Oh brother. Go read Vonnegut. You cons haven't a clue about literature, that's for sure. Posted by: Gen raykon at June 09, 2010 08:34 PM (zX2px) Ha. What was that about repetition? Can you say it again?

Posted by: The Dread Pirate Neck Beard at June 09, 2010 04:37 PM (wOtDN)

375 "He made it 4 sentence fragments before he broke out in laughter. "

Oh brother. Go read Vonnegut.

You cons haven't a clue about literature, that's for sure.

And that's the game.  Cons 7, Libs 0.  Two runs, one error, and a fool left on base.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 04:38 PM (o3kbt)

376 Gabe, I hope you're taking notes, here, mighty chronicler of self-loathing republican faggotry that you are.

Something like this post could have been written by Cal Thomas after Liberace's death.

Ace is stupid, sure. But he also hates you, gabe.

Posted by: Ace alert: al-Qaeda engineers create potency stripping cum-magnet at June 09, 2010 04:38 PM (z8NNY)

377  Actually, ace, you can get aids from sniffing your Mommy's used tampons.

Take care, ace.

Posted by: Ace alert: al-Qaeda engineers create potency stripping cum-magnet at June 09, 2010 04:39 PM (z8NNY)

378 Gabe, I hope you're taking notes, here, mighty chronicler of self-loathing republican faggotry that you are.

Something like this post could have been written by Cal Thomas after Liberace's death.

Ace is stupid, sure. But he also hates you, gabe.

Posted by: Ace alert: al-Qaeda engineers create potency stripping cum-magnet at June 09, 2010 08:38 PM (z8NNY)

I'm not sure what that is, but I think it needs refrigeration.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 04:40 PM (o3kbt)

379 Wow, this could get fun.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 09, 2010 04:40 PM (nxUYP)

380 wow. rayon has a buddy.

Posted by: sifty at June 09, 2010 04:40 PM (BJIhx)

381 "Rand  was a native Russian speaker. Writers have different styles--"

I love Tolstoy. His shorter works anyway.

Posted by: Gen raykon at June 09, 2010 04:41 PM (zX2px)

382 OK.  I'm gong to the store for beer.  This is going to be a long night

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 04:41 PM (o3kbt)

383 You cons haven't a clue about literature, that's for sure.

Posted by: Gen raykon at June 09, 2010 08:34 PM (zX2px)

I have an A.B. in British Literature from Duke University, spent 2 years at Oxford studying literature, and have a master's from Georgetown in Literature and Technical Writing. I also have an MBA from G.W. I'm quite sure I "have a clue" about literature. Also, because I don't have to work, I teach AP English in a private school so that I can amuse myself and still be on the same schedule as my "brood" of children (whom I breast fed).

 

Posted by: dagny at June 09, 2010 04:41 PM (FoUOO)

384 I love Tolstoy. His shorter works anyway.

Wow.  You are into the classics.  Marvel hasn't done that shit since the 50s.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 04:42 PM (o3kbt)

385 I like Ace, because he sees the real truth. Wingnuts never will.

Posted by: Gen raykon at June 09, 2010 04:42 PM (zX2px)

386 I don't think Hep survives well exposed to air either. They need something like rabies or lockjaw on the weapons, or just old fashioned poo, which can give people various nasty ailments.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 09, 2010 04:42 PM (PQY7w)

387 I love Tolstoy. His shorter works anyway.

Wow.  You are into the classics.  Marvel hasn't done that shit since the 50s.

No...Toystory...

typo...

Posted by: JavaJoe at June 09, 2010 04:43 PM (e9JZd)

388

wtheck,

Ace couldn't hate Gabe,that's just downright silly,  Gabriel is delightful,.

mornings without Gabe would be dark , empty and without needed information .

Posted by: willow at June 09, 2010 04:43 PM (HyUIR)

389

I have an A.B. in British Literature from Duke University, spent 2 years at Oxford studying literature, and have a master's from Georgetown in Literature and Technical Writing. I also have an MBA from G.W. I'm quite sure I "have a clue" about literature. Also, because I don't have to work, I teach AP English in a private school so that I can amuse myself and still be on the same schedule as my "brood" of children (whom I breast fed).

 

Posted by: dagny at June 09, 2010 08:41 PM (FoUOO)

Illiterate bitch.  What do you know about "Dreams from my Mama's Baby-Daddy"?

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 04:44 PM (o3kbt)

390 I graduated from a public high school with a class of 90 and I still know Vonnegut  was an over-rated commie cocksucker.

Posted by: sifty at June 09, 2010 04:44 PM (BJIhx)

391 I stuck together all the pages in my TMNT graphic novels. You cons don't understand adhesives.

Posted by: Dr. Raykon, DDS at June 09, 2010 04:44 PM (wOtDN)

392 I have an A.B. in British Literature from Duke University, spent 2 years at Oxford studying literature, and have a master's from Georgetown in Literature and Technical Writing. I also have an MBA from G.W. I'm quite sure I "have a clue" about literature. Also, because I don't have to work, I teach AP English in a private school so that I can amuse myself and still be on the same schedule as my "brood" of children (whom I breast fed).

Pics or it didn't happen....

Posted by: JavaJoe at June 09, 2010 04:45 PM (e9JZd)

393

i'm going to go  stand by a stove and cook muffins.

don't tell anyone.

nite

 

Posted by: willow at June 09, 2010 04:45 PM (HyUIR)

394 I like Ace, because he sees the real truth. Wingnuts never will.

Posted by: Gen raykon at June 09, 2010 08:42 PM (zX2px)


The only real truth that you see is that you take it in the ass bareback with your "daddy". Just remember, nothing wrong with it, but try to make sure he doesn't cause minor tears in your anus. You could get HIV. If that happened, you would then go on Manhunt and proclaim yourself "poz bottom who needs it".

Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 09, 2010 04:47 PM (nxUYP)

395 Comon Dag, show us what you got. Ideas rule, not nonsensically aligned words in meaningless sentences. Give us some insight into mankinds predicament.

Posted by: Gen raykon at June 09, 2010 04:47 PM (zX2px)

396

Illiterate bitch.  What do you know about "Dreams from my Mama's Baby-Daddy"?

I know Bill Ayres wrote it. I preferred "Obamanation"; less angst, fewer lies. I'm curious why Mr. Kickass thought he knew so much about his mama's baby daddy since he met him, what, twice?

Posted by: dagny at June 09, 2010 04:48 PM (FoUOO)

397 Ideas rule, not nonsensically aligned words in meaningless sentences. Posted by: Gen raykon at June 09, 2010 08:47 PM (zX2px) I like horsies.

Posted by: Dr. Raykon, DDS at June 09, 2010 04:50 PM (wOtDN)

398

 Give us some insight into mankinds predicament.

If you tell me how many "mankinds" there are?

Posted by: dagny at June 09, 2010 04:50 PM (FoUOO)

399

Hi Wodeshead.

What year?

Posted by: dagny at June 09, 2010 04:51 PM (FoUOO)

400 "I like horsies."

The Horses Trilogy? I loved it also.

Posted by: Gen raykon at June 09, 2010 04:52 PM (zX2px)

401 Ideas rule, not nonsensically aligned words in meaningless sentences.

Posted by: Dr. Raykon, DDS at June 09, 2010 04:52 PM (wOtDN)

402 "If you tell me how many "mankinds" there are?"

2

Posted by: Gen raykon at June 09, 2010 04:54 PM (zX2px)

403 406 That's right. You had beer on points.

Posted by: dagny at June 09, 2010 04:54 PM (FoUOO)

404 I heard that the insurgents were also packing the IEDs with rusty crucifixes.

Posted by: Michael Collins at June 09, 2010 04:54 PM (I+7Zv)

405 2 ? Oh, "cons" and "libtards"?

Posted by: dagny at June 09, 2010 04:54 PM (FoUOO)

406 "I heard that the insurgents were also packing the IEDs with rusty crucifixes."

Why not holy water. Molecules of holy water can kill at great distances.

Posted by: Gen raykon at June 09, 2010 04:56 PM (zX2px)

407

405 Which proves you didn't get ideas from the words in the sentences. Maybe they have a simple reader version? Look into it.

The premise is that, because of government inference into the marketplace, the producers no longer are able to produce and the country desintegrates.

Posted by: dagny at June 09, 2010 04:58 PM (FoUOO)

408 412 I've been trying ever since recreate the sauce. I can't do it. I''ve tried every possible combination, have come up with some good ones, but nothing to match my memory. I'm close to going down there, stealing the sauce, and having it analyzed in a lab.

Posted by: dagny at June 09, 2010 05:00 PM (FoUOO)

409 "The premise is that, because of government inference into the marketplace, the producers no longer are able to produce and the country desintegrates."

Drill Baby drill.

Derivatives.

CDOs (Credit Default Swaps).

Need I go on?

Posted by: Gen raykon at June 09, 2010 05:02 PM (zX2px)

410 Drill baby drill!

Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 09, 2010 05:07 PM (nxUYP)

411 Raycunt, did you know that in the 30's , us and the Brits taught some camel-jockeys and goat fuckers how to get their oil out of the ground.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 09, 2010 05:08 PM (nxUYP)

412 Yeah. Drill. Drill in the shallows, drill on land. Drill, baby drill. If there is an accident, don't go on vacation. Build nuclear power plants too.

Posted by: dagny at June 09, 2010 05:31 PM (FoUOO)

413 Need I go on?

Don't stop on my account.

Posted by: Good sense and correct grammar at June 09, 2010 05:32 PM (4WbTI)

414 Don't let Chris Dodd and Barney Frank create your fiscal policy.

Posted by: dagny at June 09, 2010 05:32 PM (FoUOO)

415 Wonder why those "fat cats" on Wall Street donate so heavily libtard?

Posted by: dagny at June 09, 2010 05:35 PM (FoUOO)

416 DRILL, BABY! DRILL!!

Posted by: Andrew Sullivan, biting his pillow at June 09, 2010 05:38 PM (AaGVW)

417 OK.  I'm back with more beer.

And I'm always amazed by the educational and intellectual background of the average moron.  But that doesn't include you, Ray-Bans.

You are a fool.  A poser.  An utter fucknozzle.  You probably couldn't even afford to drive to the homes of these people here that you denigrate.  Vonnegut?  You're fucking kidding, right?

Your arrogance reveals that your pubic hair is younger than most of my socks.  You truly have no clue.  When was the last time you read something that didn't have pictures?  Seriously.  Even if you're a college student, you have pictures.  Anyone more than ten years older than you, which is all of us, have actually read books without pictures.

You consider yourself open-minded, and you are.  Like an open sewer, you'll let anything shit in there.

Vonnegut.  Heh.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 05:40 PM (pPy/1)

418 Raycunt, did you know that in the 30's , us and the Brits taught some camel-jockeys and goat fuckers how to get their oil out of the ground.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at June 09, 2010 09:08 PM (nxUYP)

Aramco.  Whoever fucked that corporate setup up deserves my kidney leavins.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 09, 2010 05:42 PM (pPy/1)

419 Samuel Adams, actually they tried to teach them -  but the goatfuckers were too backward to grasp basic concepts like a plan, tooling, training, etc.  Appearently the hadith doesn't include much on engineering or management, so those concepts must be haram.

So Brits and Americans have been doing it for them ever since, and building their roads, electrical grid, desalination plants, etc. - basically anything over three stories that you don't want to fall down.

Posted by: Jean at June 09, 2010 05:52 PM (CPefM)

Posted by: dustin at June 09, 2010 05:53 PM (HtIec)

421 "Al Qaeda Hoax? Commenters Ed and old dirty b/tard say the HIV virus is fragile and dies quickly outside a living human host and say there's no way to store it for long periods. Ed says it dies 20 minutes outside the body."

But how long does it live in a used syringe that presumably contains some blood as a host for the infection?

Posted by: curious at June 09, 2010 06:10 PM (p302b)

422 "Al Qaeda Hoax? Commenters Ed and old dirty b/tard say the HIV virus is fragile and dies quickly outside a living human host and say there's no way to store it for long periods. Ed says it dies 20 minutes outside the body."

Who cares if it is a fucking hoax?  If you point a toy gun at me that looks real and I shoot you, you loose.  If you purposely plant a hoax like this and your enemy then is forced to sterilize entire regions of your country to be on the safe side, well, you loose.

But whatever, we aren't willing to do what is required to win.   Our guys are strapped down with stupid ROEs.  We won WWII in 3.5 years against a mighty military machine and we can be these goat fucking cave dwellers in almost 3 times that?

Posted by: Greg at June 09, 2010 06:41 PM (xMLZ3)

423 But how long does it live in a used syringe that presumably contains some blood as a host for the infection?

HIV pretty much dies as soon as it's exposed to air, and the odds of getting HIV from blood freshly drawn from an HIV carrier and then immediately accidentally sticking yourself with the needle are only about 3 in 1,000. 

Just to put it into perspective, there are under 200 cases of possible HIV transmission in the US to health care workers from needle sticks.  And needle sticks aren't exactly rare.

Hepatitis, OTOH, lives for up to three or four days on a surface at room temperature.  I'd be much more afraid of hepatitis in this situation than HIV.

Posted by: Alice H at June 09, 2010 08:08 PM (qJHYy)

424 Not to mention, getting enough HIV-infected blood to start creating bombs with it, well...

Posted by: Alice H at June 09, 2010 08:09 PM (qJHYy)

425 where do they get the needles? are you kidding? i guess it isn't widely known that there is a significant problem with heroin addiction in countries like pakistan, and afghanistan. besides, what jihad loving doctor wouldn't be happy to supply the taliban with what ever they wanted? needles, hot water bottles, enemas...oh sorry..i digress...

Posted by: mistress overdone at June 09, 2010 09:36 PM (M4IOE)

426 Regardless of what the deal is, here's what the response should be: We need to stop pussyfooting around with these terrorist/Islamist types. When our forces come across any number of them, they need to be eliminated. No trying to take 'em alive; dispatch all of them. The side benefits are that there's no danger of them returning to the battlefield because the Afghan justice system hiccuped somehow, and there's no need to waste resources on them by making available food, clothing, or medical care.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at June 09, 2010 10:27 PM (4dOKX)

427 No, not nukes; neutron bombs. 

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