Posted by: enoxo at February 11, 2010 02:30 PM (1gwjW)

I really don't think some party purity test is the way to go buddy.

It is true. Medina is often on that tinfoil hat wearing asshat Alex Jones's  show. Even Ru Paul's dad Ron Paul rejects trutherism.

Yeah, right.  He also makes appearances on the Alex Jones show.  And he's "just asking questions" about 9/11.  But not a truther, nosiree.  He just wants to know what really happened.

I guess those people who said Sarah Palin should endorse her over Perry were wrong huh.

Posted by: Tumescent Pubescent Republican at February 11, 2010 02:31 PM (m4Ulb)

Ah, you're back to stink up another thread!

Hmmmm, could someone help me out here?  I'm interested in implementing IP unified communications over extremely reliable, scalable and cost effective IP-PBX platforms.

Any idea who my first choice should be, say... if I was looking the Colorado area perhaps?

Posted by: Tumescent Republican at February 11, 2010 02:30 PM (m4Ulb)

Nice try, limpdick.  There are moonbats on both sides.  The difference is, our side doesn't elect them cough McKinney coughcough Waters coughhackcough Kucinich cough Pelosi coughcough Stark cough ahem.

Fucking amateur.  Can we request a troll upgrade?  This one has NO fucking skills.

"Fucking amateur.  Can we request a troll upgrade?  This one has NO fucking skills."

Nor any skill at argumentation, which is more to the point.

she's finished.

"Hilarious. Your White Party fights for bankers, insurers, and no jobs.

Fight the Power, knuckleheads!

Have you been listening to Obama recently? Lotsa love for bankers and such-like on display.

Posted by: Tumescent Republican at February 11, 2010 02:30 PM (m4Ulb)

Party has lots of ideas, eggy. They just don't happen to include the rampant increase in the size of government, the debt, welfare, entitlements and general stupidity yours does.

Now go get your fucking shinebox

#41  Nor any skill at argumentation, which is more to the point.

I have great skillz at argumentation, knucklehead.  All I need to do is call you a knucklehead, or claim that you have "no ideas" to win the argument, knucklehead.

All you haterz have no ideas, knuckleheads.  I gtg - Palin Steele invited me over to play with his "gf".

Assuming that this isn't a sock-puppet, I suggest that you look up the term "ad homimen." It is a logical fallacy. That is bad, in case you don't know what "fallacy" means.

Posted by: Dang Straights at February 11, 2010 02:48 PM (fx8sm)

I don't mean to defend that Medina person, but yes - there are folks who are desperate to send out thought police to persecute us.  They're called Liberals.  If they could put drugs in the water to control out minds they'd do it in a heart beat.

Have you been listening to Obama recently? Lotsa love for bankers and such-like on display.

Why shouldn't I have love for Wall Street?  Those dumbfucks donated lots of money and voted for me last time.  They know I'm only kicking them around for show.  They'll be back on my side when it counts, in three years.  Won't you, boys?

Assuming that this isn't a sock-puppet, I suggest that you look up the term "ad homimen." It is a logical fallacy. That is bad, in case you don't know what "fallacy" means.

Posted by: Grey Fox at February 11, 2010 02:50 PM (e+wCK)

you're going to make him/her/it think you mean fellatio

Your White Party fights for bankers, insurers, and no jobs.

Except for the jobs of the bankers and the insurers.  We're evil that way, too.

Psst--ask Toonces how he voted on TARP.

Idiot.

I think there is room in the Tea Party for a widely varied set of reasons to be part of the movement.  I'd call them the poles that hold the movement up.  Some of those poles may be out on the edge. 

But one pole that should be rejected by all Tea Party groups in every state is the Truthers.  It may smack of a purity test, well so be it.  Birthers are a close second.  There is no reason that every major and minor tea Party organizer can't sign a petition/letter/statement that proclaims that Truthers and Birthers are not welcome.  I would also expect any candidate looking for Tea Party support to sign the same document.

ACE

will you post the article that was in the wall street journal editorial section.

I think it was titled "I am the President most trusted Advisor" It was wrtten as a satire in the guise of "SOTUS" or Straw Man of the United States of America.

It was written by Noam something or other. It was pretty funny.

It is true. Medina is often on that tinfoil hat wearing asshat Alex Jones's  show. Even Ru Paul's dad Ron Paul rejects trutherism.

Yeah, right.  He also makes appearances on the Alex Jones show.  And he's "just asking questions" about 9/11.  But not a truther, nosiree.  He just wants to know what really happened.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 11, 2010 02:36 PM (plsiE)

You are right. Though when Ron Paul was cornered in an interview he denied being a trutherist. Alx Jones and Ron Paul are in complete agreement on their antisemitism. Paul seems to be rooting for the enemy, and is the best Congressman an Islamo-Fascist could hope for.

Watch this from the creators of Hide the Decline. Baba O'reilly  on the banjo.

Minnesotans 4 Global Warming.

"It is a sock."

I thought it might be, but the target was too inviting to miss. It helps me hone my snark skills, though.

She answered. Stop defending a fucking Truther.

Agree totally with Ace.  There is no acceptable answer to the question posed by Beck than "No."  End.  No further, no qualifications.

Clear?

Primaries are a beautiful thing.

"Jeff who really knows what Jesus said about himself ? No one even is sure of what YEAR he was born let alone what day."

In which case one can't reasonably call him a great man, either, since nothing is known for certain. All you are doing is cherry-picking the parts you agree with...

mis-speaks

I HATE that term because it is bullshit to its core.  SHE DID NOT MIS-SPEAK.  She did not say the Yankees play in Fenway or Brussels is in France.

She was presented a simple yes or no question and used 65 words to answer.

"Mis-speak".  Meh.

<i>Alright, you guys win: every time someone mis-speaks in the future...</i>

Happens to me all the time.  Like that fundraiser that I said wasn't a fundraiser.  Yep, gotta watch those mis-speaks.

Usually I find Glenn Beck nuttier than a Planter's sample pack, but at least he did good work on this one...

Now if he'd only lighten up on his obsession with Woodrow Wilson and Teddy Roosevelt....

Why is that? Because he's funny? He's drawing parallels with Wilson and Roosevelt and today's "progressives". Read some history and you'll see that he's right. We are still paying for Wilson.

Now, who's the "real base" ace? Pray tell.

ME

Posted by: JBean at February 11, 2010 03:12 PM (9rK3x)

Birthers are not Truthers. Stop the stupid mantra.

People who foolishly believe person X wasn't born in location Y are not the same as people who dig Al-Qaeda and believe US goverment murdered 3000 people for oil. Fuck, just stop it.

I'm sure MSNBC will cover this responsibly. Get ready for Tea Party = 9/11 Truther meme.

Well, at least she doens't want Obama to produce a birth certificate

ahhahaha

This new chick seems pretty interesting.  Is she hawt?

She was presented a simple yes or no question and used 65 words to answer.

She verbally soiled herself.

Even if she believes there is information withheld about 9/11 -- and I would agree with that, but the info deals with national security, not a cover-up -- she should easily be able to say automatically, "No, the US government was not involved."

How on Earth did she get as far as she did?  Is Beck the first one to really ask her about this?  Where are the tea partiers who fronted her?

Can I watch if I hold your coat?

And I'll bring the popcorn.

She claims to have the Tx. Tea Party groups behind her, but she doesnÂ’t.

She is a Paul-Bot and not actually part of the Tea Party movement.  I guess the people in Texas are really screwed. It sounds like sticking with Perry is their best shot for now.

Posted by: Vic at February 11, 2010 03:21 PM (QrA9E)"

I was thinking about voting for Rick Perry in the primary, but after this morning, I have no doubts.  I'm definitely voting Perry!

Glenn Beck just did us Texans a public service.

I haven't been able to listen to this, as I'm at work, but I'll assume folks are accurate about what the question was and what she said.

Well... shit.  Shit shit shit.  Um....

I agree.  "No" is the answer I was looking for.  If you want to equivocate, a non-nutty equivocation is that the federal government had no intent to allow 9/11, but was lax in preventing it.  And that's pretty weak, considering how loose people were with security prior to 9/11, and how much political capital has been expended AFTER 9/11 to do the half-assed job of prevention that we're currently doing.  The only real answer to the question is "No."

So... I guess I'll be voting third party or just abstaining on the governor's race.  Least ways, I'm not voting for Perry or Hutchison, and I'm damn sure not voting for the democrat, whoever it is. 

I wonder the MSM was holding this bit of nuttiness to spring on us right before the election, should she have won the primary.  Or maybe they didn't see it as being anything out of the ordinary?  Nah, probably the first one. 

Well, good catch, Glenn.  That's a real pisser, though.

Posted by: ducks Under Oklahoma ASCEND at February 11, 2010 03:18 PM (dUOK+)

1. Plenty of people claim this equivalence. Here and at Hotair.

2. One position is damning while the other is somewhat forgiveable. Even in politics. I wouldn't mind having a Birther rep. There is no harm as long he's not obsessive about it. I would mind having a 9.11 Truther as a rep.

There are mentally ill people who become great painters and there are mentally ill people who become serial killers. Are they the same?

8: "I give up.  Is Kinky Friedman running again?"

He was - as a liberal Democrat - but quickly dropped out.  He isn't the independent, free-thinker that he built his image around.

16: "Good to see she lost it with Beck. Her campaign is probably now on life support, along with KBH."

Let's not give Medina more credit than she deserved.  She was never going to get out of the the Republican primary with more than about 10-15% (supposedly) of the party vote and she won't pull more than KBH - whose campaign is also on life support along with Medina. Whatever everyone around the country heard about Medina's prospects was not accurate. Perry will easily win re-election.  He's still pretty popular here.

And to think, there was actually going to be room in this week's paycheck to put some coin in her tip-jar and buy a couple of bumper-stickers...

I'm bummed.  She'll try and tap-dance around this, and I'm sure will play the "inconsequential to TX politics" angle, but...damn.

It's actually quite awesome when these nuts actually admit that they have "questions" about the government's involvement in 9/11.   It makes it much easier to know whom to avoid at all costs.

A co-worker of mine who I was somewhat friendly with (casual acquaintance) started off on a Truther rant one day during a break at a conference we were attending.  He was absolutely shocked when I called him a f**king idiot and told him to stay the hell away from me. 

From what I've gathered, he's shot his mouth off on multiple occasions to other co-workers (big Ron Paul guy).

He used to be a quirky, but well-respected employee.  Now, it's pretty sad watching this guy speak up about anything.  Nobody takes him seriously, no matter what topic we're discussing. 

hold up, since when is the tea parties for the rnc?  you know what, screw the republican party too.  those assclowns are just as bad as the liberals

it was form by all types of people including democrats for conservative causes.

oh, i heard the interview in the car, i was like wow!!

Rodeo clowns serve a very important purpose which makes their ha-ha just a bonus.

Beck can be annoying, but he is good at ferreting out the truth about dangerous individuals.

A dear friend of mine is an Alex Jones acolyte. He told me about this Debra Medina, conveniently leaving out the troofer part. That was a really good audio clip.

I hope Medina really is headed back to four percent with a bullet. (not literally)

"So... I guess I'll be voting third party or just abstaining on the governor's race.  Least ways, I'm not voting for Perry or Hutchison, and I'm damn sure not voting for the democrat, whoever it is."

JOO KNO JOO WANT ME!

There's an update on Hot Air where Medina first backtracks her troofer self, but then in the end compulsively goes back to her point that the government should be accountable when the populace has questions.

175 - I know the type. When my friend starts on his troofer rant, there's nothing to do but shut up. You can't argue with them. But you can keep them out of office.

Medina's next move: Go back on Jones' show, complaining how Glenn Beck is a Bilderberger, as are all the readers of Hot Air and Ace of Spades.

hmmm, this is probably why Sarah avoided supporting Medina, and its a good thing too.

I can just see the headlines to bash Palin if she has supported Medina.

I have to admit Palin seems to be pretty good at getting all the inside information.

^{Posted by: Jeffrey Quick at February 11, 2010 03:51 PM (g9neE)}

I think he only wants to shoot up female virgins with HPV, so you're probably safe.

Crazy doesn't necessarily mean dumb as a doornail.  Some truthers (while as previously mentioned....er, crazy) are politically astute enough to recognize the ascendancy in influence of the tea party movement, and seek to hitch their wagon to it.  Unlike with the kook left, carrying Chimpy McBushhitler signs, the media are going to fix their laser sights on every fringe lunatic that associates itself with any group that falls on the right side of the ideological spectrum.

I don't think Sarah Palin had inside-info on this.  If she had it, then Perry would've had it, and if Perry had it, he would have used it...

I'm still under the impression that Palin endorses Perry to pay back political favors amongst the various Republican governors, and she got lucky by not going out on a limb for Medina.

I don't even think that Beck had any inside-info on this.  He just asked a question, giving her a chance to squelch the one rumor that would most likely hold her back from being a serious contender.

And instead of using the hacksaw to cut off the handcuffs, she wound up slitting her own wrists.

Ugh.

I can't get home and take her support group off of my Facebook quickly enough.

By the way, I'm sure Medina will be getting a paper grocery sack filled with the collected feces of the entire KLIF morning crew, set ablaze, on the front steps of her campaign office.

Jeff Bolton!  Why didn't you come to me like a fucking man and tell me she was a Truther?

"He's trailing a 9/11 truther in the race for governor?"

Not anymore.

Thank you for bringing us that little gem, Rocks, so that the rest of us don't have to go there.

Make sure you wash thoroughly...

By the way, I'm sure Medina will be getting a paper grocery sack filled with the collected feces of the entire KLIF morning crew, set ablaze, on the front steps of her campaign office.

Jeff Bolton!  Why didn't you come to me like a fucking man and tell me she was a Truther?

LOL!  You're not kidding.  This seriously stinks for them.  Imagine having to endorse Perry or Hutchison after all the crap being slung...

Oh, it's honest cloud!

Hi, honest cloud! Or should I just call you John?

Is your dad still practicing law? Nice place he's got there on Marco Island.

I love this game...  It never gets old!

"ACORN is comprised of a lot of crazy bastards have jumped on the bandwagon, a bunch of disaffected fringey malcontents who have been frustrated for their whole lives as a result of sucking at earning a living."

"The Progressive Movement is comprised of a lot of crazy bastards have jumped on the bandwagon, a bunch of disaffected fringey malcontents who have been frustrated for their whole lives as a result of sucking at earning a living."

"Barney Frank's anus is chock-full of a lot of crazy bastards have jumped on the bandwagon, a bunch of disaffected fringey malcontents who have been frustrated for their whole lives as a result of sucking at earning a living."

I just checked the reader comments under the Dallas newspaper story and Medina's retraction.

It's 50-50, with half of the comments attacking Beck for exposing Medina.

Texas - wtf?

Thank goodness - I was afraid KBH would win the nomination if Medina pulled votes away from Perry! 

The Democrats.  The Democrats just recently started to trail Medina.  She's always been last in the Republican lineup, but she just recently got her leg up over Bill White, or whatever his name is.

^{(and man, was that White / Shami debate last week a snoozer...basically an hour or White spouting the standard Democratic stance, and Shami following up with a "me, too."  And really, nothing is creepier than listening to Farouk Shami talk about how "a lady is a human being and all human beings have rights and that lady has a right as a human being to choose what is best for her life as a human being."  Gave me the jibblies.)}

176 -- Oh, that sort of industrial strength crazy has been around for quite a while now and is pretty prevalent on a lot of sites.

For instance: did you know that Barbaro (yep, the dead racehorse) is an enlightened being and messenger from God?  And he even manifests in photos as spiritual "orbs" (aka. dust particles on your camera lens, but that's only the explanation from people who don't "see" because we're souless or something).  And Barbaro (according to his devotees) went overwhelmingly for teh o-ster in '08.  Barbaro not only sends them messages about who to vote for, but also comes to these people and tells them to spend a hell of a lot of money on "rescuing" animals (what we lesser beings usually call hoarding) and giving to the humane society (spit) and peta (double spit).

I shit you not -- some of them have left their families in order to "follow Barbaro"...and there are a lot of them (more than a  hundred at least that I know of) -- and they vote...and they stalk uppity unbelievers who dare to question them (or their idols) too.  How scary is that?

Let's face it: the world is going to continue to go down the drainpipe for as long as batshit crazy people are given much of a forum to spread their batshit craziness.

Bill Clinton in Hosprital in NY

Clinton, 63, was transported to Columbia Presbyterian Hospital in Manhattan for a condition related to his heart.

ABC News' chief political correspondent George Stephanopoulos reported that sources said he was taken to the hospital "likely for a stent procedure

osbourne - right here.  I was one of them.

Either Palin had this ace up her sleeve, or she got really lucky.

176 -- Oh, that sort of industrial strength crazy has been around for quite a while now and is pretty prevalent on a lot of sites.

For instance: did you know that Barbaro (yep, the dead racehorse) is an enlightened being and messenger from God? 

Please tell me that you made that up.

231 -- I've got good friends in the racing industry (and possibly a couple of job prospects) and trust me, the Barbaro fans are a fairly sizeable group that are not only batshit crazy, they're also politically active (and for the most part don't know $%ck about horses or racing).

Don't get me wrong, the horse was a decent racer and it was sad what happened to him, but these people just take the cake (and they are for the most part, not pro-horse owning in the traditional sense).  It had a lot to do with  a guru type who started a blog about the horse; the rest is history.

And they are certifiable: they'll stalk your ass if they think you are a danger to their cult (threaten your kids, animals, and property too).

I didn't interpret what she said, as meaning she's a Truther.  BUT, I did interpret it as not wanting to pissing off/giving cover to the Truthers among her supporters.  She must have quite a few, if that's the case.  Whether she's a Truther, or just wants to enable them, the end result, for me, is the same.

She's lost my vote, and I've emailed my various networks (in TX) regarding this.  Her previous association w/ Ron Paul (who I loathe) wasn't enough to turn me off.  This however, drive the spike thru her heart.

Posted by: the peanut gallery at February 11, 2010 05:33 PM (l71WL)

So, you too think Hitler was a nice guy who was tricked by the World Jewry into WWII?

And we're supposed to adore you for your smartipantiness to shut up about it?

"So, you too think Hitler was a nice guy who was tricked by the World Jewry into WWII?"

That's exactly the issue that I can tolerate Pat Buchanan believing in, since I agree with him on virtually everything else, as long as he doesn't embarrass me by talking about it or acting on it.

Such a surprise that our resident neo-Nazi is a Pat Buchanan fan.

Where did honest cloud John go?

I guess trolling is more fun when you think you're anonymous.

They sure did get out and rock the vote for bammy though -- they'll do just about anything for Barbaro.

**in fairness, I don't think the real Barbaro gave two plops about politics, and since he was a fairly classy horse I would like to think if he did, he wouldn't have shilled for teh owe.

I saw this post at Patterico and thought it made a great point.

I wouldnÂ’t have much confidence in an elected (or appointed) official who was a Truther. But I just started wondering what the difference is between someone who holds such out-of-the-mainstream, contrary-to-the-evidence beliefs and one who holds beliefs that can be similarly categorized, except that they are religious in nature.

In other words, if I consider Medina a weirdo whoÂ’s unworthy of the public trust, and thatÂ’s acceptable, why is not not acceptable to consider as a weirdo whoÂ’s unworthy of the public trust someone who, oh, letÂ’s just say, believes Jesus walked the American southwest?

-Diffus

First off, she didn't ask any questions about it.  She answered a question, and expressed her distrust.  It's not rational to let emotions fly off the handle whenever the words "911" are spoken.  The government is not sacred.  It is mostly full of a bunch of bumbling idiots.  Rudy Guiliani knows all too well that the masses react this way when they hear the magic words.  That's why he uses it to his advantage to limit his vocabulary to "September 11th". 

And now the morning guy on KLIF took the same tack as the afternoon guy.  "Beck set Medina up, is in a secret cabal with Perry and Palin, it was an unfair question to ask of Medina, it was sexist , Beck was too quick to label her a truther, etc." 

By all means, "conservatives," let's go out of our way to twist the words of a candidate who is dedicated to upholding the United States Constitution so that she doesn't interfere with the "fight" between two establishment Republicans. This isn't Massachusetts. Texas is a state where a true Conservative can win, but let's make sure we elect a Democrat Lite candidate instead.

Medina is not a truther. She didn't answer the question well, but Beck demonstrated his clear intent. Isn't  it ironic that the CEO of Conspiracies-R-Us wants to smear a true limited government candidate at a conspiracy nut? At times Beck is no better than Big Dumb Ed Schultz. 

But, let's say Medina is a "truther." You have two Big Government "non-truthers" who have been a part of the problem vs. a "truther" who recognizes the legitimate function of government. Personally, I would vote for the conspiracy nut over the two who I know will be lying as they take an oath to uphold the Constitution.

Gov. Goodhair is looking better and better. Dunno about KBH...There's allot to be said about not changing horses in the middle of an Apocalypse.