February 05, 2010
— Jack M. Occasionally, a story comes along that has everything a blogger could want. Take, for example, this profile of the Tea Party movement that appeared on Yahoo News yesterday afternoon.
I mean, just look at it: it was written by a man named "Patrik Jonsson", so you know that the Dirty Scandis are involved; it has a hilariously deragatory take on the Tea Party Movement that has to be read to be believed; and it features a quote from the Mary Tyler Moore of the Blogosphere, Mary Katharine Ham. (EDIT: That's not a shot at MKH! That was meant to be a compliment! Who doesn't love Mary Richards? Lou Grant or Ted Baxter...now that would have been a shot.)
Again I ask, what more could a blogger want? It's a veritable cornucopia of bloggy goodness. And what do we do with cornucopias of bloggy goodness? We Fisk them. Deeply and repeatedly. Which I do, after the jump. Let's start with the title of this article:
'Tea party' movement: Who are they and what do they want?
THEY ARE STARVING CANNIBAL MARTIANS WHO HAVE COME FOR YOUR CHILDREN AND PETS!!!!
I mean, could the question make members of the Tea Party movement seem any more foreign or threatening? Aren't these the kind of questions you expect Jack Bauer to ask Chloe in the part of 24 when he learns the terrorists are plotting to release toxic nerve agents in the subway and he is trying to decide whether he should just torture the suspect for information or to kill them outright?
Then again, I suppose if the question was answered sensibly with "Your neighbors and reduced government spending" Mr. Jonsson wouldn't have had anything to write in the next 35 odd paragraphs. He probably gets paid by the word.
OK..so we've set the scene with a scary title. What should we do now? Oh yeah, define our antagonists for the reader:
Of all the protest signs at all the rallies and town-hall meetings where people gathered last year to object to Washington's plans to save the US economy and reform healthcare, this hand-lettered one is memorable: "You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out."That's the "tea party" movement in a nutshell.
THEY ARE AGAINST EFFORTS TO SAVE THE ECONOMY!!11!!11! Oh noes!
You know, call me silly, but I would've thought that the "Taxed Enough Already" signs pretty much encapsulated the Tea Party Movement "in a nutshell". See, the letters that start each word not only spell out the word TEA, but they also harken to the ideological component of the movement in a way that the "you can't fix stupid but you can vote it out" sign doesn't.
I mean, the sign our Scandi friend chose (if it even existed) could be held up by anybody at any rally for any cause. Heck, it's so broadly applicable it even sounds like the punch line to one of Larry the Cable Guys jokes. And I rather doubt that a significant American political movement is coalescing around the need for universal access to the blue collar comedy tour.
The left paints the movement as a largely white and middle-class mob – and as including kooks who equate President Obama with Joseph Stalin.There's some truth to that view.
Hey you know what movement is largely white and represents an upper-class mob?
MSNBC's broadcast lineup. I await your Yahoo News story on this group.
And it's not so much that we equate President Obama with Stalin. After all, Stalin could get his signature legislation enacted. It's more like Obama is a failing Mussolini: all jutting chin and Roman columned pomposity and government subsidized trains that he can't even get to run on time.
Then again, I guess Amtrak was inherited from preceding Presidents. So maybe that bit about the trains wasn't really fair. I'll just chalk it up as "fake but accurate", and that should get me a gig with Yahoo News.
But where some see a bunch of white people standing in the way of progress, others see a growing expression of dissatisfaction with what former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney (R) calls the "neomonarchists."
You know who I think of when I think of the "go to guy" for Tea Parties? Mitt Romney. You know who that benefits? Pretty much nobody.
Skipping a paragraph brings us to this:
When – and why – was the tea party movement born?CNBC editor Rick Santelli's on-air "rant" last February about a proposed mortgage bailout is widely considered to be the "big bang" moment for the birth of the movement.
A few days later, a couple of conservative foot soldiers – John O'Hara of the Heartland Institute and J.P. Freire, then of The American Spectator – wondered if there were a way to harness Mr. Santelli's frustration.
Silly Scandi, metaphors are for kids! See, here is the deal. You are using the phrase "big bang" to refer to an event with creators you specifically identify a couple of words later.
See, I'm no cosmologist, but even I know that the "big bang" is a theory offered to explain the existence of the universe absent a guiding creator. I think you would have been better served had you referenced something like a "eureka" moment.
You know about "eureka" don't you? That's what Archimedes supposedly said when he dropped gold into his bathtub and figured out how buoyancy worked. See, it's a human having an idea and acting on it.
Look, I'd really like to help you out here, but I still have a lot more of your story to fisk. If you have additional questions, maybe you should pose them to Keith Olbermann. I hear he spends a lot of time in the bathtub.
(A quick aside- I did not include the Big Bang stuff just to traffic bait certain bloggers who are always Losing the God Fight. And I didn't include the gratuitious shot at Olbermann because I want to win "Worst Person in the World". So far as you know.)
OK, I'm going to skip the next several paragraphs of this story. Fair use and all that. But you should read them anyway, because not only do they contain a quote from that most reputable of "media watchdog groups", Media Matters, but they also contain the conspiracy theory that "the archconservative Scaife family" is pulling the Tea Party Movement's Strings.
Ahh...Richard Mellon Scaife! That's a name that brings back some fond memories. The Clinton's were in the White House, Hillary was hiding billing records, Bill was hiding cigars (if you know what I mean and I think you do) and Richard Mellon Scaife was single handedly orchesting the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy to impeach the President through the pages of R. Emmitt Tyrell's American Spectator. Good times. Good times.
Have I told you how much I missed the 1990's?
What do tea partyers want?The movement, in its essence, is about safeguarding individual liberty, cutting taxes, and ending bailouts for business while the American taxpayer gets burdened with more public debt. It is fueled by concern that the United States under Mr. Obama is becoming a European-style social democracy where individual initiative is sapped by the needs of the collective.
"The issue is no longer tea tariffs and imperial rule, but bailouts and handouts, stimulus in the face of deficits, cap and trade [on carbon emissions], universal healthcare Â… dictated against the will and interest of the people, and at the peril of Â… the nation as a whole" leading to "an inevitable blow-back in a battle over America's constitutional principles," writes O'Hara in "A New American Tea Party," which hit bookstores this month.
But in the opening paragraphs you told me it was only evil economy haters who wanted to vote stupid people out of office!
You mean, it's a movement with a clear, substantive, ideological premise behind it?
And it only took you roughly 17 paragraphs to let me know that?
Boy, I'm glad I stuck it out through your lame story. Especially that awful middle section I didn't even bother to fisk. I might have been left with the impression that these people were just aggrieved kooks with no legitimate or specific beefs.
Would be a shame if lots of people got that impression, wouldn't it, Mr. Jonsson?
I'm going to do us both a favor and skip some more of your article. Let's see reading on brings us to this passage:
In some ways, the tea party movement poses less of a challenge to Democrats than to Republicans, who must weigh the potential gains and pitfalls of courting far-right tea partyers against those of courting middle America. To what extent the tea party movement is middle America is the big question – one that coming elections will help answer.
which I have trouble reconciling with these passages a couple paragraphs later:
Moreover, decisions by Democratic Sens. Christopher Dodd and Byron Dorgan not to run for reelection this year is an acknowledgment that they probably would have faced a tea-party-inspired populist backlash at the polls, say tea party watchers.In Massachusetts, tea party organizers helped to funnel money and manpower to state Sen. Scott Brown's successful bid for the late Ted Kennedy's seat in the US Senate. The upset victory, wrote conservative columnist Mary Katharine Ham, shows that "Democrats fooled themselves into believing the town-hall/tea party caricature and ignored the feelings of real Americans."
So let me get this straight. The tea-parties pose a "challenge" more to Republicans than Democrats because they are so far to the right that they are out of touch with middle America.
And yet, 2 Democratic Senators are being forced to retire because the tea partiers were going to join with the GOP to vote them out of office.
And that noted far-right idealogue, Scott Brown, was able to win a Senate seat in that arch-conservative state of Massachusetts.
And Republicans have won governorships in Virginia and New Jersey since the Tea Party movement started gaining steam.
And a 3rd Party congressional candidate in New York nearly won a House seat on the Conservative ticket, which would have yielded yet another Republican vote.
This word "challenge" that you are using. I do not think it means what you think it means. You might be better off substituting "benefit".
Oh, and M-Kat's quote is great too. It could even apply to the author of this news article! That's M-Kat for you...taking an abstract thought and bringing it's essence into sharp, crystallized relief. It's why she's the best she is at what she does.
No wait. That's Wolverine. Mary Katharine is a good policy analyst too, though.
In any event, I think it's time that I stopped dipping my balls in this Yahoo News article. It's enjoying it way more than I am.
I think it's because of the pudding.

Posted by: Jack M. at
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There's some truth to that view.
How did that get by their censorship?
Posted by: harleycowboy at February 05, 2010 06:03 AM (JKGfQ)
Posted by: AP Whores at February 05, 2010 06:04 AM (d7Px0)
I hope you emailed this fisking to that jackass. Bright side, as long as they refuse to see how screwed up they are, the easier it will be to steamroll them.
Posted by: Dang Straights at February 05, 2010 06:05 AM (c5C7R)
You know, I had a choice.
I could make the classic Hugh Hewitt/Mitt Romney joke, or I could've focused on the line about teapartiers being "white people standing in the way of progress."
I think I made the right call. Leaves you guys somoething to talk about too. And I'm a giver.
Posted by: Jack M. at February 05, 2010 06:07 AM (Ncr1R)
It's kinda funy to watch so many of the "educated class" reduced to relying on other people's Twiiter posts and Facebook pages for their "research" when hundreds and hundreds of events have been open for them to attend all over the country. Afraid of what they might find out if they bothered to show up, perhaps?
Posted by: lincolntf at February 05, 2010 06:08 AM (V2pCF)
Of course, that doesn't make it any better analogy to the Tea Party genesis (see what I did there?), other than that the media types like to use the term for any loud beginning.
Anyway, I think we'll see lots of these types of articles that seek to instill fear of those strange tea partiers into voters. Unlike all those "principled" anti war activists of the Bush era, huh?
Posted by: Randy at February 05, 2010 06:10 AM (GtTYq)
Unemployment: 9.7%
Civilian employment fall 20k in January yet Unemployment rate declines.
I blame unicorns.
Posted by: toby928 at February 05, 2010 06:11 AM (PD1tk)
it features a quote from the Mary Tyler Moore of the Blogosphere, Mary Katharine Ham.
Hey why you gotta go hatin' on MKH? Here's what was quoted:
The upset victory (Brown - MA), wrote conservative columnist Mary Katharine Ham, shows that "Democrats fooled themselves into believing the town-hall/tea party caricature and ignored the feelings of real Americans."
I see nothing wrong with that or her. She is one of our babes.
Also, the article came from the left leaning "Christian Science Monitor" so you should expect BS in anything they publish.
Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2010 06:11 AM (QrA9E)
Posted by: GarandFan at February 05, 2010 06:11 AM (ZQBnQ)
Of course, anyone who does not think like the liberals must be a joke right? Liberals who preach that we should all be respectful and tolerant of each other have not been practicing their own rules when they call Conservatives names: surely all of us, who "don't get" the Liberal agenda are either evil, stupid or malinformedÂ… And that is why we will vote them out of Congress.
Stop the progressives and save the world! It is that simple.
Posted by: sickinmass at February 05, 2010 06:12 AM (Dxfei)
Posted by: EC at February 05, 2010 06:13 AM (mAhn3)
Im not hating on MKH! I meant that as a compliment! Everybody liked "Mary Richards" on the Mary Tyler Moore show!
If I wanted to insult her I woulda said "Ted Baxter".
I'll edit that to make it clear.
Posted by: Jack M. at February 05, 2010 06:14 AM (Ncr1R)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 05, 2010 06:14 AM (0GFWk)
"larry the cable guy"???? Come On.
"You Can't Fix Stupid" is pure Ron White.
and if you don't know who Ron White is I'm revoking your tea party card.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 05, 2010 06:15 AM (T1boi)
I blame unicorns.
I blame an increase in the discouraged worker.
Posted by: CUS at February 05, 2010 06:15 AM (wOGfT)
This is why we're f--ked, imo. http://tinyurl.com/ybr3wla
Nobody knows the truth! What is it? 9.7%? 15%?
Nobody tells the f--king truth! And until they start, we are all f--ked. Everybody. On both - all sides.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at February 05, 2010 06:15 AM (RkRxq)
CornUcopia. Do Spellcheck and I have to do everything around here?
Nothing I enjoy more than Scandis mocking mobs of white people.
Don't pick on Archimedes. He invented the screw. Srsly.
Posted by: comatus at February 05, 2010 06:17 AM (/VEEI)
Im not hating on MKH! I meant that as a compliment! Everybody liked "Mary Richards" on the Mary Tyler Moore show!
Sorry, I guess I misinterpreted the comment.
Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2010 06:17 AM (QrA9E)
The left paints the movement as a largely white and middle-class mob – and as including kooks who equate President Obama with Joseph Stalin.
Obama IS Stalin or, at least, Lenin.
Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2010 06:19 AM (QrA9E)
DJIA 9,951.40-50.78 (-0.51%)
Is this program trading kicking the props out?
Posted by: toby928 at February 05, 2010 06:20 AM (PD1tk)
Posted by: Decaf at February 05, 2010 06:21 AM (NooBZ)
Posted by: Johnny I at February 05, 2010 06:23 AM (Qqb4B)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at February 05, 2010 06:25 AM (a9UO0)
Patrik Jonsson! I knew that name was familiar.
I introduced his ole' lady to my pet piggy. She thought it was cute.
She played with it over and over. She even kissed it... repeatedly.
Nice lady.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at February 05, 2010 06:25 AM (RkRxq)
Posted by: Decaf at February 05, 2010 06:25 AM (NooBZ)
It makes absolutely no difference what the progressives say about the unemployment rate in decline because their socialist/Marxist agenda remains intact and America will suffer.
Also, to maintain the progressive movement they will lie with abandon. Disregard the employment numbers knowing the data is from Obama administration pukes. Fuck progressives and liberals.
Posted by: Fish at February 05, 2010 06:25 AM (M5t+h)
Proper spelling and proper grammar are tools of the fascist thought police that only serve the purpose of enslaving your mind-thoughts, man.
/pretty much everyone who is contributing money to the "Peace Blimp"
Fixed cornUcopia. Thanks.
Posted by: Jack M. at February 05, 2010 06:26 AM (Ncr1R)
F'in beautiful right there.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 05, 2010 06:26 AM (mR7mk)
Posted by: toby928 at February 05, 2010 06:27 AM (PD1tk)
Posted by: Johnny I at February 05, 2010 06:27 AM (Qqb4B)
Im not hating on MKH! I meant that as a compliment!
Only epic poetry will prove you weren't hating on her.
I don't make the rules...
Posted by: Mama AJ at February 05, 2010 06:29 AM (Be4xl)
Nobody knows the truth! What is it? 9.7%? 15%?
And is this before or after the completely unexpected revision of an additional 800k jobs lost?
Isn't it odd that when Bush was in office, they kept having to revise unemployment numbers down, but now that Obama's in office, they keep having to revise unemployment numbers up? I admit, though, that there is a non-partisan explanation for that, as unemployment was generally falling during the Bush years, while unemployment is generally rising during the Obama years.
Posted by: Cautiously Pessimistic at February 05, 2010 06:30 AM (pZEar)
OK, I'll try again and hope the blog doesn't eat my comment:
It looks like Patrik Jonsson is full of lutefisk.
Now that I think of it maybe it's better that it gets eaten.
Posted by: Decaf at February 05, 2010 06:30 AM (NooBZ)
You could say that Patrik Jonsson is full of lutefisk.
HEY-O!
Nice!
As a recovering stinking-ass Scandi (that's why my name is spelled with a "K" instead of the Anglo "C") I wish to clarify that a Scandi named Patrik without a "C" in the spelling is gay. Nothing wrong with being gay of course except that he's gay for male moose or meese in the plural if you prefer.
The More You Know!
Posted by: ErikW at February 05, 2010 06:31 AM (xFaGV)
Posted by: Johnny I at February 05, 2010 06:32 AM (ZyYZ0)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at February 05, 2010 06:33 AM (wgLRl)
This is how pathetic it is to live in NJ. NJ.com has a permanent page for corruption.
Posted by: Mike H at February 05, 2010 06:36 AM (LdYLm)
Posted by: laceyunderallssonn at February 05, 2010 06:36 AM (TwXU6)
Mallamutt,
Mary Richards could turn the world on with her smile.
Furthermore, she could take a nothing day, and suddenly make it all seem worthwile.
You gotta respect that kind of power.
Posted by: Jack M. at February 05, 2010 06:36 AM (Ncr1R)
As bad as Yahoo!News may be, Yahoo!Answers is even worse.
Check out Yahoo! Finance Message Boards sometime.
Posted by: FireHorse at February 05, 2010 06:37 AM (cQyWA)
As a recovering stinking-ass Scandi (that's why my name is spelled with a "K" instead of the Anglo "C") I wish to clarify that a Scandi named Patrik without a "C" in the spelling is gay. Nothing wrong with being gay of course except that he's gay for male moose or meese in the plural if you prefer.
I visited Sweden twice and not a meese in sight, I saw one of those in Yellowstone. And what's more my cousin Peter's name is pronounced Pehtehr. Now, that's gay though he is not.
Posted by: Decaf at February 05, 2010 06:37 AM (NooBZ)
There's some truth to that view.
How did that get by their censorship?
Pretty sure that he was talking about the "white and middle-class mob" thing being true. Although, I'm loving the grammatical idiocy of a supposedly literate journalist.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 05, 2010 06:37 AM (I/MqP)
Her place in history is solid. She made being an "old maid" fashionable.
Posted by: curious at February 05, 2010 06:40 AM (p302b)
You haven't lived until you've seen a moose chase down and trample a brand-new 2nd LT West Pointer in the Alaskan forest.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 05, 2010 06:44 AM (I/MqP)
"She made being an "old maid" fashionable."
Nah...I blame that on Rhoda. I don't think she could even get a date in the spin off!
Posted by: Jack M. at February 05, 2010 06:44 AM (Ncr1R)
I visited Sweden twice and not a meese in sight, I saw one of those in Yellowstone. And what's more my cousin Peter's name is pronounced Pehtehr. Now, that's gay though he is not.
I'm not surprised you didn't see them. Swedish meese live in trees, you see. They prefer the boreal old-growth forests and have moss covered fur which further hides them from sight. That makes Patrik's odd sexual preferences all the more strange.
Posted by: ErikW at February 05, 2010 06:45 AM (xFaGV)
"On short selling, Schapiro told reporters, "Hopefully, you'll see something in the first quarter."
Schapiro also said she wants to implement fundamental changes in the money market industry, moving it away from the current $1-per-share standard to a floating number that she believes would more accurately reflect funds' fluctuations, an idea unpopular with most funds.The SEC approved rules last month to require funds to disclose fluctuations around the $1-per-share standard on a monthly basis after a 60-day lag."
Posted by: curious at February 05, 2010 06:45 AM (p302b)
Partially true when it's political hacks spinning and trotting out numbers pulled out of a hat; however, reality hits the voter every day and that cannot be avoided. That hypothetical recession hitting everyone else? Well it's becoming more and more of a depression to the increasing lot who reads the "official" reports and knows it's bunk.
Main streeters know the truth beyond the anecdotal because they, someone in their family, or their neighbors are out of work and struggling. They see it and live it. A number from whatever source becomes irrelevant. Politicians just cannot spin the inevitable truth however they might try to hide its delay.
The anti-capitalist Obama and his agenda will be crushed. He cannot change his stripes and it would appear that a tipping point of Americans has finally been reached... because it had to.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 05, 2010 06:49 AM (swuwV)
There's some truth to that view.
Could that have been a Freudian Slip?
Posted by: harleycowboy at February 05, 2010 06:52 AM (JKGfQ)
Didn't some say the europeans were just peachy.
Posted by: curious at February 05, 2010 06:53 AM (p302b)
Posted by: huerfano at February 05, 2010 06:56 AM (sf1Eo)
Ed Asner's show "Lou" where Asner was the editor of a Los Angles newspaper.
I watched that show one time after which I realized he was a liberal cockholster. History has proven me correct.
Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2010 06:56 AM (QrA9E)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 05, 2010 06:58 AM (swuwV)
Posted by: curious at February 05, 2010 06:58 AM (p302b)
Oooh, Mr Grant, you're such a Commie douchebag!
Posted by: mary richards at February 05, 2010 07:00 AM (2qU2d)
How awful that some of us would compare Dear Leader to Stalin.
If you think about it, he's much closer to Lenin: a naive, incompetent academic who thinks whatever he wants is the will of the people, whether the people want it or not.
Posted by: Maquis at February 05, 2010 07:00 AM (GADRT)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 05, 2010 07:00 AM (swuwV)
Ed Asner is a real Commie, Vic.
I don't know if he's card-carrying CPUSA member (today or in the past), but if you've ever seen him discuss politics, such as when he was the actors' union head, it's pretty clear he's Red Diaper territory.
Posted by: andycanuck at February 05, 2010 07:03 AM (2qU2d)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 05, 2010 07:05 AM (mR7mk)
Peanuts! Peanuts! Calendars! Peanuts!
Posted by: zombie chuckles the clown at February 05, 2010 07:07 AM (2qU2d)
And speaking of Mary Tyler Moore, how did Murray go from being a bad-ass, WW2 Sherman tank driver to being a pussy civilian in Minneapolis?
Posted by: andycanuck at February 05, 2010 07:10 AM (2qU2d)
He was saying that Iran was known as Persia before WW2. The Iranian (Persian) ambassador to Germany suggested the name change from Persia to Iran, and it was enacted. Also, Iran in Farsi means Aryan.
Interesting point, would like to know the source for that. But Iran was aligned with the Axis in WW2, right?
Posted by: Jay in Ames at February 05, 2010 07:14 AM (UEEex)
Can I just say: Ouch!
Posted by: FUBAR at February 05, 2010 07:16 AM (1fanL)
I view Yahoo most days anyway, so I've long enjoyed their News section. It is so ham-fistedly slanted that I can't even muster outrage anymore. On just about any given day has at least one petulantly adolescent Lib-Prog rant barely disguised as an article.
I now treat it as a mis-labeled right-wing political satire section inadvertently penned by the opposition - basically what the guys at Newsbusters would come up with in collaboration with The Onion if they weren't so damned busy reporting on the actual shit-shoveling going on at the more recognized purveyors of Liberal fertilizer.
So keep plugging away, Kos/Huff/Yahoo Kidz. After your internship on the Nets, you can take your editorializing to the Bigs. Just think, if you land at the Times, your viewership will explode from me, JackM, and your moms to encompass literally tens of people worldwide !
Posted by: societyis2blame at February 05, 2010 07:17 AM (rPDD/)
Posted by: Barack Mussolini Obama at February 05, 2010 07:18 AM (LdYLm)
Posted by: April at February 05, 2010 07:24 AM (b0THY)
Ed Asner is a real Commie, Vic.
He's a prince of a fellow compared to Meathead. Meathead actually received his political education from acting in "All in the Family."
Posted by: FUBAR at February 05, 2010 07:25 AM (1fanL)
Posted by: GreenGasEmissions at February 05, 2010 07:28 AM (jpf1B)
hahahahaha
Fox is using commie Karl Kameron to cover the Tea Party convention. I can hardly wait for his insightful wisdom.
Posted by: Vic at February 05, 2010 07:34 AM (QrA9E)
Posted by: Pat My Jonsson at February 05, 2010 07:42 AM (eDvXz)
Come to think of it, all lefties are meatheads. Can we start calling them that?
Posted by: tsj017 at February 05, 2010 07:49 AM (4YUWF)
Posted by: The Great Satan's Ghost at February 05, 2010 07:51 AM (HdTyp)
MKH -
humminahummina
Girl-next-door cute. Funny. A little odd. My dream girl.
What were we talking about?
Posted by: jcjimi at February 05, 2010 08:11 AM (NEj2I)
"It's more like Obama is a failing Mussolini: all jutting chin and Roman columned pomposity and government subsidized trains that he can't even get to run on time."
that is a great line worthy of praise... Salute brother!
Posted by: shoey at February 05, 2010 08:18 AM (Ed9Xn)
Yes, it's true. Ed Asner is a crime against humanity.
Posted by: VJay at February 05, 2010 08:33 AM (gQ+XA)
I've heard they prefer "fucking retards", so that's what we should call them. Out of respect.
Posted by: VJay at February 05, 2010 08:33 AM (gQ+XA)
Posted by: Liz Lemon at February 05, 2010 08:39 AM (lSuMX)
Know what I think about when I think of Morons dipping?
Dippin' Dots.
Just to let you know what I think of you people.
Posted by: FUBAR at February 05, 2010 08:52 AM (1fanL)
How awful that some of us would compare Dear Leader to Stalin.
If you think about it, he's much closer to Lenin: a naive, incompetent academic who thinks whatever he wants is the will of the people, whether the people want it or not.
Posted by: Maquis at February 05, 2010 11:00 AM (GADRT)
He was trying for Mao.
Posted by: WalrusRex at February 05, 2010 08:56 AM (xxgag)
Posted by: defenduUSA at February 05, 2010 09:11 AM (Kt4Bp)
Posted by: 1idvet at February 05, 2010 09:30 AM (xUxh3)
He was trying for Mao.
The problem with being Mao is that an hour later you want to kill another million people.
Posted by: andycanuck at February 05, 2010 09:34 AM (2qU2d)
Posted by: oneisnotprime at February 05, 2010 09:52 AM (k58xs)
Posted by: JEA at February 05, 2010 10:12 AM (XZu3c)
Posted by: ChicagoJedi at February 05, 2010 10:13 AM (WZFkG)
Posted by: JEA"
Strange that someone would be racist enough to deny all the examples of nonwhites at TEA protests or pretend race is relevant.
You fucking democrats just can't let this racism shtick go.
Posted by: Wigglesworth at February 05, 2010 10:35 AM (dUOK+)
Posted by: JEA at February 05, 2010 02:22 PM (2BDhm)
Posted by: innocentxxiv at February 06, 2010 12:49 AM (YNtvB)
Pretty astonishing ignorance on display here.
What later became known as the Big Bang theory was originally proposed by a Catholic Priest named George LeMaitre in the early 1920s. At the time Einstein told LeMaitre "Your math is correct, but your physics is abominable."
Contemporaneously Hubble had just discovered that galaxies did exist outside the Milky Way. He was also working on red shift theory, which would demonstrate that the universe was expanding.
Prior to all this the prevailing theory was called "steady state". Thie proposed that the universe was stagnant and existed from the beginning essentially without change.
Resistance to the idea of the Big Bang was in part specifically because it implied a specific moment of creation, which of course, implied something had to cause that, which reinforced the idea of the existence of God. LeMaitrie called it a "cosmic egg". Pope Pius XII seized on the theory as "proof" of the existence of God.
By the mid 1930s the theory had begun to gain wide acceptance, but proponents of "steady state" held out for decades, the most dogged of these being Fred Hoyle, who refused to accept the idea of an expanding universe right up to his death in 2001. In 1936 Einstein lectured with LeMaitrie and famously stood and applauded LeMaitre saying "This is the most beautiful and satisfactory explanation of creation to which I have ever listened."
Still, the theory didn't gain wide acceptance in the media and general population until somewhere in the range of the 1970s or so. I remember reading a Newsweek story in the 1970s that described the Big Bang and said something pretty close to 'It as if scientists have climbed Mountain that had never before been climbed, only to find a bunch of priests sitting around on the summit when they got there.'
Posted by: NoCosmologist at February 06, 2010 04:37 AM (oW2Dr)
Posted by: JEA at February 06, 2010 04:58 AM (iX3JO)
You shoukl go to a rally and count them yourself. Let us know what you find, Monsieur Racecard.
Posted by: toby928 at February 06, 2010 11:24 AM (PD1tk)
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