1 I'm far more concerned about Michele Bachmann individuating and fixing the Tea movement upon herself than I am about what Bennet and Lott have to say about us.  It's the ruling class (all Democrats and many Republicans) versus the country class (us).  That Lott and Bennet dislike us is a good thing.

2 No the Party establishment hates DeMint and always have. The RINO wing has been in control since they used the fake Clinton gov shutdown to depose Newt.

But there is a ray of light. Those RINOs like Bennet and Inglis are getting the boot in the primaries this year.  When the Republicans retake the House the Republican leadership is probably going to change.

3 Oh, and the Tea Party is still a faction. For now.

4 McCain is going back to the Senate, so it's all bullshit anyway.

5
...and I'm not so sure this is such a dire threat.

...the fuck?

6 Does AZ have a 50% primary requirement? IOW Since the R primary is a 3-way race if none of the candidates have 50% + 1 do they have to have a runoff?

7 DeMint is the man.  Honestly.

8
Tea Party candidates are like preparation H, sent to shrink the Federal Hemorrhoid. Might take more than one application.

9

The thing that worries me is that the Tea Party is either going to be taken away from the grassroots and made a politicians' caucus or that too many issues will be stacked underneath the umbrella of the movement.  The point of the Tea Party is to protest unfair taxation and inappropriate use of taxes.  We can't start fitting other issues like immigration, war, etc. under it because then we start splitting the party.  We need to keep our focus.

10 I'm far more concerned about Michele Bachmann individuating and fixing the Tea movement upon herself than I am about what Bennet and Lott have to say about us.  

Posted by: Truman North at July 18, 2010 06:07 PM (HLGCA)

Bachmann represented the Tea Party view before there ever was a Tea Party.  She stood on these principles nearly alone, for years.  I trust Bachmann more with the political implementation than anyone else ... except maybe DeMint.

11 The Coffee Party has all the momentum!

12

4 McCain is going back to the Senate, so it's all bullshit anyway.

I go to TEA parties, I registered Republican, and I am going to help change the GOP in my state and the nation. 

I do not think that's bullshit.

13

As an Independent, I 100% support Jim DeMint, I however do not like JD Hayworth, but I am wary of Mccain, I hope he will not again vote for amnesty.

DeMint I really like and respect.

Trent Lott, not so much, Gingrish, no, Romeny, no.Huckabee, no. Palin, yes.

14
this WaPo douche bag wrote this piece as a warning for the GOP incumbents to stay away from the Tea Party and to treat them like lepers.

She found assholes like Bob Corker to help her.

15 I got another damn DCCC donations request, I am sending some toilet paper back to them. and my receipts to SarahPac.

16 I however do not like JD Hayworth

It may not be fair, but he seems like a big dummy to me.  I don't like him either. 

17 I am sending some toilet paper back to them

Used, I hope. 

18 Bachmann 2012!? Could it happen?

19 -->The point of the Tea Party is to protest unfair taxation and inappropriate use of taxes. 

You kind of put it in there, but the primary hassle the Tea Party has is the federal government stepping out of its Constitutional limits.  Not the taxation, itself, though that clearly follows.

-->We can't start fitting other issues like immigration, war, etc. under it because then we start splitting the party.  We need to keep our focus.

Posted by: Crusty at July 18, 2010 06:15 PM (qzgbP)

Respect for US sovereignty is a key Tea Party issue, a it is for all of America.  Most of America goes a big majority towards strong interior enforcement (since that has to be done at some point, anyway).  The majority is even larger among the Tea Party, with simple Constitutional backing, not least of it seen in -

Preamble: "secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity"

Amnesty is only alosing issue for amnesty supporters, and there are few, if any, in the Tea Parties.

20

<sub>I however do not like JD Hayworth

It may not be fair, but he seems like a big dummy to me.  I don't like him either.</sub> 

I thank you my friends.

21 Politicians pay attention to threats. The TEA Party is a threat to the established order; more so the Dems than Pubs, but not by much. The TEA Party has been called racist, therefore it is a good thing for the Republic.

22

Posted by: Y-not at July 18, 2010 06:19 PM (O627A)

Jim DeMint is a great conservative, he speaks in such a calm concise nonthreatening voice and then rips the anchor or person he is speaking to with his clear logic and southern gentleman politeness (as my wife calls it)

 

.  JD hayworht to me seems like a sleazy saleman, don't like him. and frankly don't trust him either, not that I trust Mccain either.

23 but I am wary of Mccain, I hope he will not again vote for amnesty.

Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at July 18, 2010 06:17 PM (ACkhT)

Vote for it?  He authored it.

Never assume McShame will do the right thing.  He won't.

24
Notice anything about this?

Trent Lott [...] warned that a robust bloc of rabble-rousers spells further Senate dysfunction.

No quotes. Did Lott say this, or is this douche bag editorializing? Something stinks in Denmark...I smell bullshit propaganda.

25

didn't linsdsay grahman say the same thing about Tea Party.

I don't like him either.

26 Easiest way to lose the tea party... let the politicians own it.  Once they own it they represent it... to attack the tea party would then to be to attack the politicians.  As long as attacking the tea party represents attacking the swath of people involved the hard it is to attack.

For the Alinsky-viewers... this would be "personalize it"... the easiest way not to personalize is to incorporate it in the masses of people... there's 100s of local committee organizers belonging to quasi-connected orgs... only a handful of senators.

Certainly we would want politicians who embody the concern that the Tea Party has... but once its enshrined into specific people you give it concrete attackable persons.  Further you give it discreditable persons.  Remember how the media tried to anchor it into some of the national Republican orgs?  Guess what you've just done by enshrining into specific politicians... just that.

And for a movement, for gods sakes don't anchor it to Michelle Bachmann.  She's somebody you go to when you want somebody to repeat what you believe and start an "Amen" chorus... not somebody who is going to convince others about the general issues.  You want to lose those movement... give it to her.

Keep it amorphous, keep it loosely connected, and for god sakes... keep it going... keep the pressure up.

27 Just because I'm a fatcat lobbyist doesn't mean I'm a status quo kind of guy. Revolution Now!

28 The advantage of Hayworth's campaign is this;  It depletes the RINO money by having to contest the election, the same goes for DeVore in CA.  For every dollar Hayworth spends. McCain will have to spend three.

29 I was thinking about this this morning. The Libertarian Party has largely failed, because of ballot access laws set by the Duopoly, and because it's a vanguard (i.e., extremist) party. The wonderful thing about the Tea Party is that it totally avoids the current party structure and goes back to the original idea of a party as "a group dedicated to electing certain people" And there's not really a hell of a lot the GOP can do about it.

30 26, This is so, but very hard to maintain. People like to associate movements with people, and as the TEA Party grows in popularity and power it will be more and more difficult to keep it a bottom-up movement as opposed to a top-down organization .

31 How did Arizona wind up with such poor choices for Senate? 

Anyway, I'm not a fan of McCain, but I think it's probably better for the GOP to keep a senior senator than to replace him with a weak junior one. 

32 29 I was thinking about this this morning. The Libertarian Party has largely failed, because of ballot access laws set by the Duopoly, and because it's a vanguard (i.e., extremist) party.

And because their members are too stoned to get out to vote?

33 If you don't vote for my Dad, I'm going to eat this whole half gallon of chunky monkey ice cream.

34

Why the concern about the GOP coopting the TEA folks.  It is about us coopting them.  Do you think the TEA folk are so stupid as to let that happen? 

Then just vote for Obama be done with it.

35 For the love of god, please vote for John McCain.  We can't take any more strain!!!

36 Yet some Republicans worry that tea-party candidates are settling too comfortably into their roles as unruly insurgents and could prove hard to manage if they get elected.

This line says a lot. Incumbents think they are rulers.

37

I agree with #26

and I also I hope the Tea Party does not make social issues its main thrust.  I am pro-choice, socially centerist, and frankly though social issues are not the reason I vote for or against someone unless that candidate makes social issues the main plank of their candidancy.

I completely support Govenor Palin, agree with her on all conservative values, but I disagree with her on social issues, as long as she lives her life the way she wants, and does not make her pro-life stance the entire of message, I will always support her message of fiscal conservatism, smaller constitutional govt, etc.

I like the idea of a Tea Party caucus, but can gurantee the demon's rats will use it and use Michelle Bachmanns, who I support, to personify the entire movement.

When it is leaderless, there are no targets and there are too many targets. The only thing it is bound by is people who believe in the same principles.  Is the TP caucus puts those principles upfront and center, then it could work, if it makes Bachmann the front person, I am very wary of this while being cautiously opmitismtic about it

38 The Libertarian Party has largely failed, because of ballot access laws set by the Duopoly, and because it's a vanguard (i.e., extremist) party.

The big "L" Libertarian Party failed because they started out as virtual anarchists and scared the shit out of all the regular people.

That and the people they attracted were crazy stoners who further drove away the regular people.

39 16 I however do not like JD Hayworth

It may not be fair, but he seems like a big dummy to me.  I don't like him either. 

Posted by: Y-not at July 18, 2010 06:19 PM (O627A)

So enjoy the Party and the nation getting fucked over by McCain again. He'll find ways in 2010-2012 to run interference for Obama. You know he will. He was central in bringing down the Republicans in 2006 and 2008.

His was THE deciding vote to keep ANWR from being drilled, and he is an AGW zombie.

Unless McCain is finally kicked out of public life, the Republican Party is toast.

40  This American Spectator piece is awesome, found via Instapundit, http://tinyurl.com/2d8quul

41

"He was central in bringing down the Republicans in 2006 and 2008."

ok, I did not know all this, I was still a mindless democrat drone then.

I don't understand,, how the heck was Mccain the repub nominee then in 2008?

42 Anyway, I'm not a fan of McCain, but I think it's probably better for the GOP to keep a senior senator than to replace him with a weak junior one.

As far as I am concerned he doesn't represent AZ, he represent McCain the Maverick,

AZ would do better with a partially used roll of wet toilet paper found in an abandoned Texaco station in Tulsa for a representative in the Senate.  At least it wouldn't stab them in the eye with its thumb. 

43 Once certain unscrupulous bastards realized they could make a buck off the Tea Party movement, the seeds of destruction were sown.

Naturally, the attention given the Tea Party -- not to mention the votes/donations contained therein -- would attract politicians the same way bribes draw Charley Rangel. It was inevitable.

So the conundrum: should it become an involved, active organization or remain a set of principles, holding rallies (staged by volunteers) where candidates can speak and perhaps draw the attention of potential voters?

I think the movement can maintain power with the second solution. Give it to the political hacks and it will eventually have all the force the Whigs have today.

One endorsement, one more "Teaq Party Nation" commercial gabfest, and the rot will set in for real, and the only beneficiaries will be those looking to make a quick buck.

44

His was THE deciding vote to keep ANWR from being drilled, and he is an AGW zombie.

Unless McCain is finally kicked out of public life, the Republican Party is toast.

Amen and a half!

45 So enjoy the Party and the nation getting fucked over by McCain again.

The problem isn't McCain.  He's a symptom of the problem, as are the Maine twins for that matter.  The problem is a Republican leadership that fails to rein in its rogue members. 

It's all academic as I don't vote in AZ, but I have seen Hayworth over the years and he just doesn't strike me as particularly bright or compelling.  I'd rather have a properly managed senior Senator than a rogue, unpersuasive junior one. 

46 I don't understand,, how the heck was Mccain the repub nominee then in 2008?

Very stupid rules for the primaries. The Republicans have the rules rigged so that "whoever is next" will win even if 70% of the base hate him.

47

"I have seen Hayworth over the years and he just doesn't strike me as particularly bright or compelling.  I'd rather have a properly managed senior Senator than a rogue, unpersuasive junior one.  "

This is what I was trying to say.  Isn't there a Jim DeMint-type in AZ that can run in that state?

48 The TEA puople have staying power.  We will not change the face of American politics in one election.  We know that.  We also know that this years goal is Conservative over Moderate and any Republican over any Democrat.

49

I don't understand,, how the heck was Mccain the repub nominee then in 2008?

Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at July 18, 2010 06:45 PM (ACkhT)

Schmuckabee ran interference for him and got Romney defeated, McCain pushed his buddies to help him win over sceptical conservatives. Crooked Open Primaries and a stupifying inept RNC finished the picture.

Still, it took the dumb bastard himself to hand the Presidency over to Obama with that stupid stunt of stopping his campaign and running up to Washington, where he sat around like a lump, making Obama, who didn't know what the hell to do but at least kept his mouth shut for once, look like a smart leader while McCain lost his 4 point lead in the polls for good.

McCain is lower than whale shit.

50

Posted by: Vic at July 18, 2010 06:49 PM (/jbAw)

that's what I am worried about in 2012.  I am right now a registered Independent, but I will temporariry register as a repub to be able to vote in the repub primaries. I of course have a preferred candidate.

51 The problem is a Republican leadership that fails to rein in its rogue members.

IRONY METER pegging. He was and is a large part of that leadership.

The leadership is the rogue part of the Party.

52 I am right now a registered Independent, but I will temporariry register as a repub to be able to vote in the repub primaries. I of course have a preferred candidate.

Check the rules for the State you live in. Most of the Republican Primaries were open primaries in 2008 meaning you could vote in either Party's primary. But if they are like my State you can only vote in one and that is enforced.

53

It is easier to change the Republican party than to start a third party.

The only change we can hope for in the Dem party is destruction.

54

"The only change we can hope for in the Dem party is destruction."

it has already started. I called the DNC everytime I receive a another stupid donation request and tell them I will work very hard to make sure the commies/socialists/marxists lose in 2010 and 2012.

202-863-1500, if anyone feels like giving them a message of encouragement for self-destruction  

/sarc

 

55 "The candidates are not ours to choose," said Cornyn, chairman of the Republican Senatorial Campaign Committee. "They're the choice of the primary voters in the states, and I think we should respect their choices."

So has Cornyn really changed? Seems like his getting burned on his Crist endorsement and others finally taught him a lesson. I doubt he's changed his stripes, but his finger seems to be detecting the storm a bit better. Very cautious optimism here.

As to the Tea Party endorsed candidates "prov[ing] hard to manage," that's one of the most damning political statements I've ever heard. It also explains why the GOP continues to retain a consensus approval rating below the Democrat Party in many analyses. The power-brokering statists fear losing their grip more than they fear offending voters. That needs to change. But like Doctor Roach said, it's going to take multiple applications to rid ourselves of the more inflaming D.C. hemorrhoids (like McCain, Graham, and the Maine Sisters).

56

"The candidates are not ours to choose," said Cornyn, chairman of the Republican Senatorial Campaign Committee. "They're the choice of the primary voters in the states, and I think we should respect their choices."

Wow since when did cornyn come to that conclusion...after scuzzyflave, The Tan from Florida? Bennet?...is he seeing the light or feeling the heat.

As to McNasty. He won the nomination with crossovers in open primaries & with hucklberrys help too. If he gets reelceted he will destroy the GOP.

Oh and those new taxes coming up, that was McShitforbrains. Know why there are so few Conservative justices? McAsshole and the gang of 14. Crush Freedom of Speech? see Juan, no drilling? him too.

JD could be Stalins brother and he would do more good ever then that demented SOB McJackoff...

57 Yes yes, I am detecting a vast flavor of Maverick hate here. I likes it.

58 It killed me to have to vote for McCain in order to vote against Obama.

59 Voting for MexCain is like taping a scorpion to your dick. Likely you misread the instructions.

60

Most of the Moron horde voted for McCain, because we recogized how much worse the alternative was, and is.  Now, however, is the right time to get rid of this stain, once and for all.  I would gladly take a dunce like most of you think Hayworth is over one who would stab the party and more importantly the country in the back.  See all the reasons listed by above posters.

 McCain didn't even want the job anyways.  Remember that old lady he met on the campaign trail, crying into the microphone about how worried she was for the country if Obama got elected?  Talk about a soft-ball lobbed in, waiting for the home-run swing.  All McCain had to do is tell her that he was just as worried and that the country would be in safe hands with him at the helm.  But Nooooooo.  He puts his arm around her, shaking his head in the negative, and tells her that she has nothing to fear from an Obama presidency, that he was a decent and honorable man, and would make a good president!

WTF?!!

Now the party is supposed to be concerned with being seen as too close to the Tea Party, and afraid of a Tea Party caucus?   They have current and former members saying that the new Reps and Senators will have to be "co-opted" as soon as they get to DC.

That is why they suck.  _{and why it sucks voting for them anyways.}

61 Anyone know of any post debate polling data from the mccain/hayworth debates this weekend?

62

If you want change

Send your candidates some bones.

63

As I go through life, as I get older - when I read a story and encounter the 'anonymous source' I think more and more that the reporter is just making things up.  That is the either the anonymous source has no existence other than in the reporter's imagination - or that the anonymous source is merely trying to get his/her cross-current idea out into the world.

 

Either way, 'anonymous source' is usually worthless.

64

Ohhhh,

another reason for voting for JD, it will sever the hymroid on McNastys's ass; gramnesty

65 warned that a robust bloc of rabble-rousers spells further Senate dysfunction

And that's bad because...

66

If you were better acquainted with all of the issues, and if you were even vaguelly familiar with the positions which J.D. Hayworth has taken on those issues, you might be more inclined to "like" and to get behind J.D..

He has always been a good family man and a principled, hardcore conservative and an articulate and effective, albeit sometimes very blunt advocate on conservative issues, which is why the rhinos and the Democrats and the gays have always hated him and slandered him.

Adversely, Mr. Magoo appeals mostly to women (and to gays) who view him as a daddy or a grand daddy, or a great, great grand daddy, or a great, great, great grand daddy figure - clueless as to his sleazy history. 

67 The Tea Party needs to remain non-partisan as a way to make both parties get with the program. There had better be a few decent blue dog Dems invited in too.

68 The GOP establishment, comprised of RINOs and pork barrel bastards, is a big part of why we wound up with a Marxist president with both houses of congress controlled by the left.

The question that remains to be seen is not whether the GOP establishment will be able to control the Tea Party, but whether we will be able to replace the GOP establishment.

69

BTW - if you want to do anything other than whine or revel in defeatism, get involved in a political party at the local level.  (Try Republican)  Local parties select delegates to the state party, who then select delegates to national conventions.

You want candidates who represent your beliefs?  Then you have to get control of the local parties and then the state parties.  You do that and you capture a national party.

Look - in the USA - the major parties are loose confederations of state parties.  The chair of the DNC or the RNC is pretty much a dead-end job.  No one but a political junkie knows who those figureheads are - or cares.  Get control of the local parties and you control who gets into state legislatures.  Get control of the state parties and you control who gets into Congress.

The key is to get control of the apparatus of one of the two major parties.  You do that, and you are on your way.

70 Yet some Republicans worry that tea-party candidates are settling too comfortably into their roles as unruly insurgents and could prove hard to manage if they get elected.

And right there we have the crux of the problem with the Republican party.  Prove "hard to manage?"  FUCK YOU ESTABLISHMENT.

71 Yes, I see, there's a problem with Hayworth. And a big problem for Arizona. They can't afford to such clueless old farts at the helm now when they are trying to salvage their state. But, sadly it looks like they are stuck with McCain who can't tie his own shoe laces, though he pretends to. Remember , McCain, is the guy who (someone said) -- 'not only does he cross the isle, but puts on the opponents uniform and cheers for their side.' McCain will never leave the stage, even though he knows its time for the hook. And he also knows there is nothing that can be done get rid of him for another term once he's in. Like others in the GOP, they hang on. Even more pathetic -- every last bit of hope is getting sucked out of this country by these old farts. Every day the Democrat party hacks away at America while all I hear from the Republican leadership is white noise, what does it take to start breaking things in Washington?

72 Who is Paul Rand?

:-/

73 sexypig: "There had better be a few decent blue dog Dems invited in too."

I submit we have that covered. See johnc_recent_EX-democrat. He's not the only one.

Besides, the Tea Party is more ideologically driven right now. Each association retains certain principles that are indelible. If you cannot accept them, well, the Tea Party just isn't for you much as a swelling constituency would be nice. As we've seen, you can make a tent so large as to be pointless and counterproductive if not actually anti-democratic. Currently, I call that tent D.C. where statism rules. A more focally aimed vision - like smaller government - is enough of an assault to open transformative, broad views.

74 Blue Dog Dems are a myth created by the MFM. When it gets down to the brass tacks they vote the commie party line.

75

In their debate yesterday, weasely Mr. Magoo riterated in a sly, round-about way that he would, in effect, support amnesty fror illegal aliens. Adversely, J.D. was steadfastly opposed to amnesty, a position that J.D. has taken for the past 20 years, unlike that opportunist, Mr. Magoo, who has vascillated on that issue, going whichever way the wind blows. In fact, J.D. was an advocate of Governor Brewer's legislation years before she introduced it.

BTW, did you know that Mr. Magoo wants to introduce a trillion dollar legislation package which would provide Social Security, Medicare and pensions to elderly, retired illegal aliens? Think about that one.

Ith astonishing candor in their debate yesterday, also, Mr. Magoo said that he would modify and rewrite Obama's healthcare legislation. Adversely, J.D. Hayworth said that he would completely dismantle Obama's healthcare legislation.

And you say that you dislike J.D.? Sheeet, you don't know anything about J.D. ....., and for that matter, you don't know squat about Mr. Magoo either.

76

I think AZ, much like IL, is a state where the focus should be upon the other races -- I'm threw with "Big John", but Hayworth comes off a little oily to me.  Well, not my state, so my opinion doesn't count...I get to look forward to the elections here instead...yay me.

77

...and truly, I can't think of anyone who could be the banner carrier for a Tea Party revolution in my state; hell, even the Tea Party around here seems to be a bunch of milksops (the Republican machine has been pretty successful co-opting it for the most part...and I hate the local Repubs nearly as badly as the local Dems -- they are sleazy; especially since the party chairman retired this year -- the guy who runs it now is a miserable, good old boy, elitist prick, just a corn fed Republican Obama really...hence another reason for me to stay independent).

My state needs somebody; is ready (I think) for somebody...who is a big question mark.

78 Threw = through...I will consider that a Freudian slip up.

79 Trite, but true: All politics is local. That's why the Tea Party has appeals only regionally.

80

...., but Hayworth comes off a little oily to me.

My state needs somebody; is ready (I think) for somebody...who is a big question mark.

Posted by: unknown jane at July 18, 2010 08:27 PM (5/yRG)

 

Um, okay. _{(Spoken like a woman.)}

81

 80 Regretfully (oh, if you only knew just how much) I have to confess that my state's local politics just foisted itself onto the national stage...

Doubly regretfully (you have no idea how much regret) I fear there is no beginnings of a cure in sight for the local politics in this state (at least not around here).

82 81  Hey, AZ isn't my state, and I'll admit to not knowing that much about that race (other than it is contentious) nor paying really close attention to it (not my state, and we have enough problems here to focus one's attention for a long time).  Still, Hayworth just reminds me of a lot of my state's pols (just like McCain does as well) -- in which case, I feel sorry for the people of AZ.  I feel your pain.

83

81  And just how is that "spoken like a woman"?  And why are you winking at me?

 

(sorry, had a run in with a big, fat, pasty white mofo from across the street an hour ago -- called me a not so nice name...I'm still feeling a bit fiesty; I really wanted to...thank goodness for laws and all that fun crap to constrain me)

84

So no one here is going to work towards taking over a local and then state party?

Good.  Continue to whine then on the internet, for so long as it lasts.  But if you want any lasting change go and start by taking over an existing county party.

85

J.D. and Rush are buddies, going back 20 years. They have been guests in each others' homes. They think exactly alike on many issues. J.D. was frequently a guest on Rush's show back in the early to mid 90's. Rush prodded J.D. to become a radio talk show host. When he gets wound up, J.D. is one of the funniest guys that I know, much funnier than Rush ..., and he is, well, a cool guy, too. I can understand why you think that he is "oily", though. He isn't. Far from it. But hey, that's your prerogative. You can't vote against him anyway. So it's a moot issue. BTW, I don't live in Arizona either. Thank God.

86

85  Ok, first off, I'd love to --  however, seeing as who I am, there's no way the ol' boys would let me get even close.  Heck, I'm not even welcome on the PTA or the neighborhood association, so what chance would somebody like me have?  I've offered my services, such as they are, to the local GOP -- they didn't even answer me back. I've sorta been "Palinized" -- too much of a hillbilly or something I guess.

Even the Tea Party around here has kinda derailed -- unless you're a soccer mom or a good ol boy's wife, no dice.

87 86  Who said I'd vote against him?  It is a moot point, but I never said "oooh, I'd vote against that J.D. guy" -- honestly, I don't know that much about AZ's senatorial canidates other than McCain, and even there I don't know the ins and outs of how the state is represented by him -- certainly not like a native would know.

88 85

So no one here is going to work towards taking over a local and then state party?

Good.  Continue to whine then on the internet, for so long as it lasts.  But if you want any lasting change go and start by taking over an existing county party.

Posted by: Mikey NTH at July 18, 2010 08:54 PM (gzjX3)

 

Suffice to say, you're making assumptions, conjectures and accusations which aren't supported by the facts.  

89

"The candidates are not ours to choose," said Cornyn, chairman of the Republican Senatorial Campaign Committee. "They're the choice of the primary voters in the states, and I think we should respect their choices."

That's mighty white of ya.

90 Rules of thumb to use when reading the MFM:

1. Not invented reported here syndrome. If they haven't written about something, the story doesn't exist/isn't important.

2. If they label anyone as 'Conservative'; assume the opposite or assume the named individual has a vendetta of some sort against conservative voters.

3. If a story is damaging to Democrats/Obama/Leftist liberals/Islam, it won't be reported or researched.
If a story is even slightly damaging (or can be spun that way) to a conservative, all departments will immediately drop whatever they're doing to research and report on the story.

4. If they're questioned about their lack of coverage of a story, they will claim:
a. They didn't know about it.
b. They had other stories more important (not).
c. The story wasn't 'relevant'

91 BTW: on that Country class/ ruling class essay by Angelo M. Codevilla?
(link to be found at Patterico.com)

Note that he lays out the situation but won't speculate on HOW to correct the situation.

I think that's because he has realized that the only effective way to change the situation is armed insurrection and he didn't want to expose himself to charges of Incitement to Riot and Treason by doing so in the essay.

I believe anyone reading his essay has to come away convinced that at this time we are unable to make any effective changes using the political process. That leaves only two choices: surrender and acquiescence to our fate of slavery or armed insurrection.

92 jakee308: The Founders would have been shooting by now.

93

I don't understand,, how the heck was Mccain the repub nominee then in 2008?

 

George Soros

94

I've seen more sharp marbles than Democrates....The People are "awake".. Now the TEA PARTY is comming...All you "Spendocrates"  and Incumbent "Hacks"  will be "fired"... Your  going to get folded up like lawn chairs and shoved back into your closets come November.. We are going to VOTE YOU OUT... A bunch of y'all are "going out to pasture".. You do not represent the People ..You  have extorted  money from them and Used it as you please... This does not work for the Majority of the People and WE are comming to REMOVE YOU from office ...

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The Tea Party factions will strengthen the Republican Party where they're successful.  Sustainability over the long haul will be the issue.  Working in local politics now for the last eight months, the operative word is "work."  Since most of us already hold down full-time jobs, it's difficult to get people involved in organized campaigns much less have an impact with unorganized movements.

While I'll continue to annoy 90-year-old Republican luddites with get out the vote calls and spend Sundays delivering yard signs over a 40 mile area, my heart and mind is with the Tea Parties.

 

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