1
We left-wingers HAAAAAAATE Reagan. 
Commie walls are awesome. 

Who needs liberty when you can get free shit from congress?  I love my big mommy government.  Nipple please.

2 IS THAT WHAT YOU THOUGHT? WOW.

3 How many of you are old enough to remember when you thought "he's insane"?

LOL, I am old enough to think Truman was insane.

4 Ronaldus Magnus, East Victor.

5 sorry, caps were on. correction: is that what you thought? wow.

6 It's sort of hard to describe the *presence* of the wall in our lives, those of us who were young then.

I imagine it was different for those who grew up before the wall was built.    Maybe it didn't seem so eternal to them.

7 i am proud to say i was neo-con before reagan.

8 Bad Crazy Liar Blog links to Evil Creationist Sarah Palin's Facebook page

You heard it here first!

9 O/T

Due to increased pressure from President Obama and his admonition to tear down that wall, North Korea has acquiesced to Obama's demands for unity in the Korean Peninsula, and the process of unification will begin whenever Maddy Albright returns for another bootie call and dances the polka with Kim as she did in the past. 

10 and was glad he was on the right side in saying communism was the evil of the world & destined for the scrap heap of history.

11
The Great Ronald Reagan makes Obama look like a petty community organizing socialist loser.

Ronald Reagan was an authentic, genuine, wise and caring leader.
He was an adult.

12 Raygun was stupid old man like all fatass american

13
Best Reagan line evah:
We begin bombing in five minutes

14 Tear Down This Wall !

So many other memorable lines from Reagan.

Even the Leg Tinglers can't give you a memorable line from an Obama speech, just that it was the greatest oratory ever

15 We were wrong. I was wrong. Because we underestimated the power of the human spirit, that desires liberty, that is willing to cast off oppression at the risk of life itself. To risk everything, to live a life unencumbered by despots.

It isn't really human spirit in general - but the spirit of certain people. There are probably more people in Iran tired of the theocracy then there were, percentagewise, tired of communism in the Soviet Union...and it endures.

But there is no Iranian Solzhenitsyn, no modern British Robert Conquest, and certainly no current President Reagan.

16
Daddy, President Reagan did a lot of good in the world, but why do you, mommy and Orca hate him so much?

17 i had a russian studies major at univ of mich, populated with ardent anti-soviets and recruiting ground for the cia.

18 it was also a haven for russian refuseniks. joseph brodsky taught there.

19
Even the Leg Tinglers can't give you a memorable line from an Obama speech, just that it was the greatest oratory ever

Posted by: kbdabear at June 12, 2010 08:06 PM (sYxEE)

It is the same thing with Clinton actually. Outside of "I did not have sex with that woman." does anyone remember a Clinton line? Heck even that "moron bumbler" Bush outdid Clinton and Obama on the memorable speech line...

20
Raygun was stupid old man like all fatass american

Posted by: Bilal at June 12, 2010 08:06 PM (iwlcs)

Daddy, what does it mean when you say that Bilal holds one in his mouth?

21 It is much easier to defeat the enemy from without than the enemy from within.

22 I was in Jr High and High school during Reagan.

I loved him.

23 Who needs liberty when you can get free shit from congress?  I love my big mommy government.  Nipple please.

Posted by: Lefty pod at June 12, 2010 08:00 PM (0fzsA)

In Soviet Russia, government uses you.

24 so, while you may have been wrong, don't include me in the we of you.

25 Mr. BP, Plug! This! Damn! Hole!

26 does anyone remember a Clinton line?

The Era of Big Government ... is over.

27 it annoys me that lefties have used him as "the last good republican president" when we all know good and well that they called him insane and dumb for 8 years as his approvals kept skyrocketing

28 ok, so now we know, the s/n raygun, is bilal when he has too much crack.

29 oh, cheeze wiz is the coolest thing ever invented.

30 The Era of Big Government ... is over.

Posted by: damian at June 12, 2010 08:11 PM (4WbTI)

Ok, so does a lie count as a famous line? Yeah, I guess probably. Fits in well with other one I quoted (I did not have sex...)

31 RR didn't seem crazy to me. I figured Communism would collapse in Europe when folks just got up and said, "Fuck this shit" That's what happened. I think East Germans on vacation in Hungary started it.

32

I remember being in Berlin in 1986, walking along the Wall at night. Eeriest fucking place I had ever been, bar none. I came across a wooden stairway that basically went nowhere, climbed to the top and I could look out across the no-mans land and on into East Berlin. I took a few shots with my camera (no flash- I sure as hell didn't need someone shooting back) then climbed down and went back to my hotel. Of all the little adventures during that trip, including the one where I accidentally drove into East Berlin (and had to cross back into the West by way of Checkpoint Charlie) that one qualified as the most sobering.

I well understand just how awesome Reagan was then. That speech was the primer Solidarity needed to make it all happen.

33 it annoys me that lefties have used him as "the last good republican president" when we all know good and well that they called him insane and dumb for 8 years as his approvals kept skyrocketing

Posted by: YRM at June 12, 2010 08:11 PM (38UQ3)

Oh, and he wanted to start a nuclear war and end humanity. And he caused AIDS, err, somehow.

34 What, none of you liked me forming a committee to investigate an ass-kickee?

I guarantee that will be quoted for years to come!

35 I was only 11, so I don't remember this speech. I remember being scared to death of Russia, though. And shoulder pads.

36

How many of you are old enough to remember when you thought "he's insane"?

On June 12, 1987 I was 27 years old. And I thought Reagan was bonkers, with this speech

My 1st memory of the man was the 84 election, then the challenger speech, tear down this wall etc.

I'm thankful I was around to see the gold standard for presidencies.

37 i think the chirrens are ok for the most part. and i mean the young teens, the 60's thing doesnt mesmerize them in the slightest and their love affair with all things military extends far beyond call of duty :modern warfare 2. my belief was further compounded the other day while hearing a couple of young skaters tell this guy "get out of here you stupid hippy" lol

38 The commies were a real pain in the ass. Here's the thing - you kept hearing this over and over in the 1970s. "No country that has gone communist has ever gone back." It was like the BEST you could hope for was a stalemate. Then you had some of those SEAsasian dominoes falling in 1975 ... yeeeesh, it looked bad.

39 ... and i certainly didn't think reagan was insane (except when he almost gave away the store at at the iceland conference.) where do you get that? but glad to have you aboard.

40 i was 19, joined the army in sept of that year.

41
On June 12, 1987 I was 27 years old
Posted by: Dave In Texas



Jeezus Christ you're fucking old, but anyway, I was sixteen and I remember sitting in my grandparents living room eating pizza listening to the speech and getting chills up my spine.

God, I miss him with every fiber of my being. I need a real president again like the crops need rain.

42 Speaking of compare and contrast --

Politico had a piece on bammy saying he woulda pressed for more regulation of BP but the R's in congress woulda prevented it..

43 > 19 It is the same thing with Clinton actually. Outside of "I did not have sex with that woman." does anyone remember a Clinton line? ... Posted by: 18-1 "It depends on what the meaning of is, is."

44

Reaganomics killing me,

Reaganomics killing me,

Reaganomics killing me,

Reaganomics killing you!

_{...I was listening to DRI loving the music, indifferent to the words.}

 _{I was only entertaining notions of Reagan being teh crazy once the Alzheimer's hit.  The media was insane with he and Nancy's age!}

 

45
In Soviet Russia, government uses you.
(Posted by: It is funny cauz its true)

The ideal situation. Take private property at gun-point and give it to the people, the state. We must work hard to achieve fairness.

46 ...I was listening to DRI loving the music, indifferent to the words."


---saw em twice, theyre good live when theyre not drunk off their ass.

47 Politico had a piece on bammy saying he woulda pressed for more regulation of BP but the R's in congress woulda prevented it..

I heard him say that.  I guffawed.  It was like a second-level strawman blame move.  I could have prevented it, but I didn't even try, uh, because some unnamed people would have stopped me.

48 43
> 19 It is the same thing with Clinton actually. Outside of "I did not have sex with that woman." does anyone remember a Clinton line? ...
Posted by: 18-1

"It depends on what the meaning of is, is."

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at June 12, 2010 08:16 PM (RtE8Y

With Clinton you remember the thumb point and the lip bite.  Did he ever actually say "I feel your pain?"

49 right now i'm watching the remake of "journey to the center of the earth" with brendan fraser (2 emotions: meek & screaming). another lame excuse for a f/x carnival joyride. doesn't hold a luminescent diode, let alone a candle, to the wonderful disney/james mason feature.

50 I feel your pain.

51 i remeber getting my first real job. att he time. Reagan was heave sent after living in my car.

52

_{Politico had a piece on bammy saying he woulda pressed for more regulation of BP but the R's in congress woulda prevented it..}

Would have been defeated by 3000%, no doubt!

53 oh, cheeze wiz is the coolest thing ever invented. Posted by: willow-byte me

Bilal is only interested in 'chez wiz,' which I conclude is French for the 'house of wiz.'

54 My 1st memory of the man was the 84 election, then the challenger speech, tear down this wall etc.

My first memory of a president period was the Challenger speech.

Growing up with that, that's gold standard for me when it comes to acting Presidential.  Nobody since then, even on our side, has had the same gravitas about them.

Reagan was "the President" and everybody else is just some guy filling in for him.

55

_{---saw em twice, theyre good live when theyre not drunk off their ass.}

Can't argue with that, son.

56 47 Politico had a piece on bammy saying he woulda pressed for more regulation of BP but the R's in congress woulda prevented it..

I heard him say that.  I guffawed.  It was like a second-level strawman blame move.  I could have prevented it, but I didn't even try, uh, because some unnamed people would have stopped me.

Posted by: damian at June 12, 2010 08:20 PM (4WbTI)

Yeah exactly how can you blame the Republicans for stopping stuff when they are in the minority?  You know when the GOP had the majority we weren't blaming the Dems for stopping shit from getting done.  We were blaming our own RINOs for backstabbing.

57 Reagan never put his feet on the desk in the Oval Office.

58

I never thought he was crazy, but I did wonder when the next war would be.

For those not around then, the daily media drum beat from all corners was that he was a dangerous old man that wanted to send young men off to war, just for the sake of war as he was a warmonger in every sense of the word. I even believed it a little, but I was OK with that because I knew the Soviets had to be resisted and better sooner than later.

That message started in Europe, and here on the left and MFM before he even took office.

Had Regan had the Internet he would have been unstoppable.

59 I loved it when RR said to Mondale in teh debate.."I wont hold your youth and inexperience against you'...something like that.

60 my gawd, you were 27?! read it as "i was 7 years old at the time" reaally! sorry for the reaganer than thou comments, but... wtvr

61 I thought Reagan was soft but he grew on me.

62 I was 12; watched the news most nights while forced to help with dinner but don't remember the speech.  Appreciate your perspective on it.

Anyway, you want insane?  This woman married the Berlin Wall:
We have been together now for many years, spiritually if not physically. Like every married couple, we have our ups and downs. We even made it through the terrible disaster of November 9, 1989, when my husband was subjected to frenzied attacks by a mob.

63 Reagan and Thatcher

64 I was stationed in Germany during my first overseas tour when the wall came down.  It was an amazing time and he was an amazing man.  I don't ever remember thinking he was crazy, he took a strong stance and those of us in the military were proud of him in spite of the media screeching about escalation and provocation.

65 "...I was listening to DRI loving the music, indifferent to the words." Love 'em. It's the same with Reagan Youth, Wasted Youth, Gang Green etc. Many many anti-Reagan songs. I just ignore the lyrics. I do that way more than I'd like.

66 My first memory of a president period was the Challenger speech.

Growing up with that, that's gold standard for me when it comes to acting Presidential.  Nobody since then, even on our side, has had the same gravitas about them.

Reagan was "the President" and everybody else is just some guy filling in for him.

Posted by: AD at June 12, 2010 08:22 PM (OGf4c)

Yep!  Ditto.

67 Can't argue with that, son."


while most punk bands are of the liberal bent, it was refreshing to see agnostic front praise the marines and put down europe. after the euro-bashing the pit was HUGE. this was a long time ago however.

68 Reagan was the greatest President of the 20th century.

Jefferson was the Greatest President of the 19th century.

FDR was the worst President of the 20th century, or ever for that matter.

Obama is now trying to out do FDR.

69

And although that was a fond memory of sitting on my grandparents couch eating pizza with them when I was sixteen watching this epic speech by a man who truly loved America, though I miss them immensely, there's a part of me that is really glad they aren't alive to see the abomination the American people have put into the Whitehouse.

70

Dave, you're not saying you were a *shudder* a liberal as a youth...are you?

..the horror

71

For those not around then, the daily media drum beat from all corners was that he was a dangerous old man that wanted to send young men off to war, just for the sake of war as he was a warmonger in every sense of the word. I even believed it a little, but I was OK with that because I knew the Soviets had to be resisted and better sooner than later.

Superman IV was a load of anti-Reagan garbage, holding the belief that our build up of weapons would destroy the world.

72 Politico had a piece on bammy saying he woulda pressed for more regulation of BP but the R's in congress woulda prevented it..

Posted by: nine coconuts at June 12, 2010 08:15 PM (DHNp4)

Oh good...we can add 'can't count' to the list of shit he can't do.  Good gawd....it's amazing that one person can say something progressively more stupid every day.

73

Bilal is only interested in 'chez wiz,' which I conclude is French for the 'house of wiz.'

Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at June 12, 2010 08:21 PM (zgd5N)

he might still be residing behind the tinman in  the House of the Wiz of odd.

74
I didn't have sex with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky.

-Bill Clinton

Mr. Gorbachev, tear down that wall.

-Ronald Reagan

I can't suck it out with a straw.

-Barack Obama

75

Dave, you're not saying you were a *shudder* a liberal as a youth...are you?

..the horror

Posted by: beedubya at June 12, 2010 08:26 PM (AnTyA)

He's a Cowboys fan, what do you expect ?

76 & thank gawd that inane, instantly forgettable "journey to the center of the earth is over (credits are rolling as i type). see the original engrossing, fun, exciting 50's version. uplifting, too (even the score is good). & don't forget the popcorn!

77

The lefties don't like to talk about the fact that they were generally pro-Soviet for most of the Cold War.  They fought Reagan every step of the way in his efforts to win the Cold War- they didn't want to win.

Be it the Soviet Union, the PLO, or Communist rebels in Central America, they always took the pro-commie position.  They wouldn't admit it ("commie" was almost a dirty word back then), but neither would they hesitate to admire the "equality" and "free" services that the percieved existed under Communism.

We see it today with their glowing admiration for Che and Castro, and it was prevalent during the Vietnam War.  The left acts indignant if you refer to their policies as Communist, yet you'll never hear them criticize Communism itself.

Give the American left absolute power, and what you'd end up with would be indistinguishable from Communism, but under a different name.

 

78 He's a Cowboys fan"


--- GAHHHHHH

79 For those not around then, the daily media drum beat from all corners was that he was a dangerous old man that wanted to send young men off to war, just for the sake of war as he was a warmonger in every sense of the word. I even believed it a little, but I was OK with that because I knew the Soviets had to be resisted and better sooner than later.

Yeah, that I later remember.  You know, it really is amazing before the internet and talk radio that anybody ever voted for a Republican period.

80
74 Fish -

Boomtastic.

81 http://tinyurl.com/2vbqmsc

politico article with bamwood saying that congress is a bunch of hypocrites.

82 O/T: James Carville making no sense as usual.

CNN contributor and Democratic strategist James Carville has been an extremely outspoken critic of Pres. Barack Obama and the administration in the wake of the BP oil spill.

But now he’s bashing defenders of Pres. Obama too – even if its his CNN colleague, Fareed Zakaria.

" And when I read that I wanted to hit [Fareed] with a football bat,"

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot

83 & thank gawd that inane, instantly forgettable "journey to the center of the earth is over (credits are rolling as i type)

Not good?  I've already torrented it down but haven't watched it.

But, I like Brandon Frazier.

84

He's a Cowboys fan, what do you expect ?

Oh...I'll pray for his soul

85

_{while most punk bands are of the liberal bent, it was refreshing to see agnostic front praise the marines and put down europe. after the euro-bashing the pit was HUGE. this was a long time ago however.}

Those guys were from a Town or two over when I was a kid. Central Westchester Co. New York! 

Their first two records were great and they were a ok guys.

86 And I've just been banned for the 2nd time in a year from Rotten Tomatoes for the crime of defending Israel on their General Discussion board. Everybody do me a favor: Go to Rotten Tomatoes and register just to post support for Israel in the thread entitled: "Israel Kills Peace Activists Bringing Humanitarian Aid To Gaza" in the General Discussion page. I was posting there as 'The Deaf Guy'. They are DETERMINED to silence anybody who spoke out in Israel's defense. If that's how they roll, just go over there to mess with them. They deserve it. http://www.rottentomatoes.com http://www.rottentomatoes.com/community/

87

That's one of my two most prominent memories during my pre-teen years. I was 12 and I remember the nighttime footage of crowds attacking a graffiti-covered wall with sledgehammers.

Papaw (WWII vet) was jumping up and down and it seemed like a New Year's Eve Celebration.

88 I saved a Newsweek magazine with the cover showing the wall being beat down. It will make me rich one day. No?

89

" And when I read that I wanted to hit [Fareed] with a football bat,"

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot

..Carville was tweaking Zakaria who earlier in the interview referred to an "offensive linebacker"

Sounds like Fareed knows about as much football as Obammie

90 IÂ’ll Have What Ellen DeGeneres Having: jewelry reviews The Wrong Ideas of jewelry reviews You Should Know How to Choose jewelry reviews

91 Their first two records were great and they were a ok guys."

--- ill second that. their later stuff was meh.

the best i remember was when they totally decimated jello biafra in a debate in front of a college crowd. to jello's credit, he admitted defeat and thanked them for the debate, then went back to his looney toon ways with the dead kennedy's.

on that note, ive argued with henry rollins on more than one occasion and that guy is a fucking imbecile. 'imbecile' doesnt even do his intellect justice, there's not really a word to describe the level of stoopid that guy possesses.

92

"Be it the Soviet Union, the PLO, or Communist rebels in Central America, they always took the pro-commie position.  They wouldn't admit it ("commie" was almost a dirty word back then), but neither would they hesitate to admire the "equality" and "free" services that the percieved existed under Communism.

Or offer aid and comfort to the Soviet premier, and to the detriment of America, if only he helped you out with your Presidential election.

http://tiny.cc/hobd8

(It amazes me this one isn't more widely known or that he continued to serve a day in the Senate after it became public.)

93 82, Carville said "football bat" to make fun of Zakaria's ignorance regarding America.

94 Communism is dead con mofos. Lets move on.

95 ok:

1. I would say Obama is the worst 21st century President, 20th century was last millenia and um, FDR sucked but i'd vote for him over: B. Harrison, W. Wilson, J. Carter, F. Pierce, J. Buchanan, J.Q. Adams, & Hoover, & Van Buren

but for my money worst 20th century prez was Carter

96 (It amazes me this one isn't more widely known or that he continued to serve a day in the Senate after it became public.)

Just another case of "what if". If it had been a Republican he would still be rotting in jail after having been convicted of treason.

97 2. I have no memories of Reagan because I wasn't even alive when he was prez :/

98 Comon cons, communism is dead, lets kill God next. What do you say?

99 94 Communism is dead con mofos. Lets move on.

Posted by: RayGun is Dead at June 12, 2010 08:38 PM (zX2px)

Hell yeah!!!

100 I miss Reagan (and the men like him) more and more every day.

The wall coming down and the assassination attempt were two defining moments in my life.

101 Ronald Reagan: "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" Barack Obama: "Present!"

102 Yeah, that I later remember.  You know, it really is amazing before the internet and talk radio that anybody ever voted for a Republican period.

Posted by: AD at June 12, 2010 08:30 PM (OGf4c)

Back then, California was a red state. Then again, the Republican party color was blue, before the MFM changed it. California was a Republican state.

Also, Carter was just so damn bad, that a Republican president was almost an inevitability in 1980. Carter did still get 82% of the black vote and 54% of the Hispanic vote. I think that's a highwater mark for those demographics.

http://bit.ly/cQP9Jw

103 In the 90's the Libs tried a new meme. To Pubs they would say. "We won the Cold war together". I remember what the Libs actually did during the Cold War. They were and still are on the other side.

104 Communism is dead con mofos. Lets move on.

Word.

105 but for my money worst 20th century prez was Carter

Everybody says that but my criteria is the one who did the most lasting harm to the country. Carter was too incompetent to do a lot of lasting harm, plus he was only in for 4 years.

106


A little under two years later the Berlin wall actually got knocked down at night by folks who loved freedom and Ronald Reagan and despised communist oppression.

I almost felt like it was my 1960's,....except I was clean-cut, took a shower regularly, supported our president and our troops and loved America.


A far cry from where we have arrived at today.

107 California was a Republican state."

---it mostly still is if you look at an election map. the only blue areas in cali seem to be frisco and the rest of the cities, everywhere else is stark red. kind of like PA.

108 Posted by: beedubya
Posted by: eman

Thanks, ok. Kind of makes sense, I guess.

109 Carter was too incompetent to do a lot of lasting harm, plus he was only in for 4 years.

He gave us Iran, the gift that keeps on giving.

110 I think that's a highwater mark for those demographics.

Obama got 95% or 96% of the black vote.

111 Raygun, someone is calling you bad names on the last thread. Better go defend yourself.

112 Pretty much every "blue" state in the country is that way.

113 get the original disney production. a terrific adventure tale from start to finish, one of their best of that era. boy, they knew how to make movies then; numerous story lines, varying pacing, music accentuating story rather than telling you how to feel, excellent acting. nobility, courage and decency are among the underlying themes. & it's really exciting (w/o the f/x)! there have been many, many vain attempts to capture the ingenuous terrificity of movies back in that day, and this is one of the specific exemplars they're after. better than "20,000 leagues under the sea".

114 God must die as communism did.

115 107, True, but if the intensity of the color was proportional to population, the blue would stand out way above the red. Cities are destroying America.

116 He gave us Iran, the gift that keeps on giving.

FDR gave us a completely communist and liberal Supreme Court. We still haven't got over that.

He gave us socialism and LBJ expanded it and made it worse.

117 110 I think that's a highwater mark for those demographics.

Obama got 95% or 96% of the black vote.

Posted by: Vic at June 12, 2010 08:42 PM (6taRI)

A high water mark for a Republican presidential candidate.

Sorry for any confusion for my wording.

118
on that note, ive argued with henry rollins on more than one occasion and that guy is a fucking imbecile.
Rollins: a guy chased into his own house by armed robbers, sees them kill his best friend during the attack and doesn't make the connection that they are evil.

119 FDR was the worst president of the 20th century.Most of the damage done by Wilson and T.Roosevelt were repaired but FDR made huge permanent changes.

120 Palina, Huntress of Wasilla, will be the second coming of Reagan.  Mark. My. Words.

121

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at June 12, 2010 08:40 PM (oIp16)

he also lost the jewish vote and barely won the women's vote, he did get 24% of the dem vote though which is really good

122 Vic is right. FDR was the Ultimate Turd.

123
Everybody says that but my criteria is the one who did the most lasting harm to the country. Carter was too incompetent to do a lot of lasting harm, plus he was only in for 4 years.

Posted by: Vic at June 12, 2010 08:41 PM (6taRI)

Good point.  I nominate Woodrow Wilson. FDR (domestic policy), or LBJ

124 Cities are destroying America."

this has a ring of trufe to it. i come from the pittsburgh metro area and as with every other city, the metro area is the true definition of a "city" then anything else. so why is it then that if the cities go blue everything else follows behind? i dont understand that.

125 "Mark. My. Words." Bite your tongue, fool.

126

_{on that note, ive argued with henry rollins on more than one occasion and that guy is a fucking imbecile. 'imbecile' doesnt even do his intellect justice, there's not really a word to describe the level of stoopid that guy possesses.}

He's a bit too cocksure.

/sarc

127 107 California was a Republican state."

---it mostly still is if you look at an election map. the only blue areas in cali seem to be frisco and the rest of the cities, everywhere else is stark red. kind of like PA.

Posted by: str8 outta at June 12, 2010 08:42 PM (zaGPI)

The population centers are what matters. Ventura County farmland is staunchly Conservative, but has few people.

The anchor baby's from Illegal aliens are coming home to roost, and they vote about 95% Dem.

128
Carter was too incompetent to do a lot of lasting harm, plus he was only in for 4 years.

He also gave us the most fabulous 30-year long bond rates ever in the history of the nation.  In January of '81 the bond rate was 13.75% for 30 years and it was like having your own printing press.  His policies also produced AAA insured municipal bond rates between 10-14 1/2% during this period. 

Thank you Jimmah Cartah for being such a fuck up that allowed me to fill the coffers of my family.  We love your incompetence Jimmah, and please go fuck yourself.

PS - Fuck Rosalynn too!

129 I wonder where else does Raygun pull his incredible insights from?  The Replacements?  Devils Advocate?  The Matrix Trilogy?  Go ahead RayGun wow us with your ability to learn from Keanu.

130

Let me reccomend an excellent book on Ronaldus Magnus...

"Ronald Reagan, How an Ordinary Man Became an Extraordinary Leader"

by Dinesh D'Souza

 

131

Posted by: steevy at June 12, 2010 08:46 PM (BrYb/)

sorry don't buy the arguments against TR, he was a lib rep but I wouldn't compare him to Wilson (who he went after in public speeches to his last days) and FDR (who he had come in contact w/ and was related to and was constantly debating)

132

This was the only republican I had voted for and proudly before Sarah Palin.

I remember I waited over 1 hour in line to vote for this man, both times.

133 nah henry rollins suffers from his personal identity crisis like so many libs do. going against the grain gives them something to attach themselves to as some sort of persona. they cling to it nefariously because it gives that sense of being and enlightenment. to lose it, would mean the end of themselves lol its so fucking ignorant you almost wanna shake them and scream in their ear to stop being so fucking dumb already.

134 1. I would say Obama is the worst 21st century President, 20th century was last millenia and um, FDR sucked but i'd vote for him over: B. Harrison, W. Wilson, J. Carter, F. Pierce, J. Buchanan, J.Q. Adams, & Hoover, & Van Buren

but for my money worst 20th century prez was Carter

Posted by: YRM at June 12, 2010 08:38 PM (38UQ3)

Woodrow Wilson.  Teh evil.

135 "I wonder where else does Raygun pull his incredible insights from?"

That God is dead? Are you retarded?

136

Posted by: steevy at June 12, 2010 08:46 PM (BrYb/)

and oh yeah Wilson's damage is still hurting us...whenever you get a paycheck

137 124, States are won in POTUS elections as winner take all. Cities and suburbs reek of blue. Plus, cheating is concentrated there, too. That magnifies their strength.

138

I've said it a few times already and other probably have mentioned similar.

Ronald Reagan - An actor that wanted to become president.

Barack Obama - A man that wanted to act like a president.

139 I listened to the speech.

I did not think he was insane.

140 Come on Keanu, wow us with your intellect.  I'm sure you learned something else when watching Bill and Ted.

141

Not a fan of banning even the most incorrigible fungus in nature, but is there any possible way we can get this fucktard Raygun off the Reagan thread? He's like a turd in the punchbowl of humanity.

142

Posted by: Glenn Beck at June 12, 2010 08:51 PM (W8m8i)

oh God I can't stand Beck's take on presidents, he gets so many things wrong and has used such horrible evidence, when he starts going on about how Adams was so awesome I wonder if he's done his research or when he compares TR (def. a progressive rep but no socialist) to Wilson or FDR (freaking socialists)

143 131 136 Yeah I said most of the damage was reversed.TR was the first progressive president,he had contempt for the Constitution.

144 The population centers are what matters. Ventura County farmland is staunchly Conservative, but has few people."

which is why i brought up 'metro areas' which have more of a population than the city proper does. every metro area has this same characteristic as more peeps tend to live in the suburbs and surrounding area. the metro population is more responsible for the city's growth then the residents of said city. thats why its so difficult for me to understand why this voting pattern always happens.

145 Obama will be giving the same speech, except in Arizona.

146 I was 24, had never thought he was crazy for a second. I always loved him. I remember the split screen when he was taking the oath of office and the hostages were being released. I knew it was morning in america and that we were the last best hope of mankind, we were the shining city on the hill. I just never dreamed that the shining city would be turned over to the communists from within by the despicable selfish racist scoundrels.

147 Obama could have had his "Tear down that wall" moment during the post election protests in Iran. But that would have required him to : 1. Exercise leadership 2. Believe that the United States of America is exceptional All those poor people in the streets wanting their votes to count, and President Pussy sat on his hands.

148

In 1987 I was 30.  I had a degree in German.  (laugh away)   I went to Germany and stayed with my brother, who was in the army.  Also stayed with various friends I'd met through being a "german major".   All the army guys were very conservative.  I was an asshole.  I had a very young army sgt. boyfriend who proudly showed me his drawing of "the best president we've ever had": Ronald Reagan.  I thought he was simple-minded.  

 I be-bopped around Berlin alone.  Followed the wall, looked at the barbed wire and broken glass on top of the wall.  Sat at Check Point Charlie and looked up at the guys in the towers.  Saw the memorials of the people who tried to run over and got shot down and I cried.

My girlfriend pointed her camera down the hall toward East Berlin, and we were surrounded by East German guys who were seriously threatening to arrest her.  We were straight away also surrounded by Westies wanting to translate and kick up a fuss.

I became aware of conservatism after picking up a book by Thomas Sowell on a subject I was interested in.  Could not find out more by him until I found him on the internet in 2005.  Then it all changed from there.

149

FDR sucked but i'd vote for him over:B. Harrison, W. Wilson, J. Carter, F. Pierce, J. Buchanan,J.Q. Adams, & Hoover, & Van Buren

Fixed it for you.  I would quibble on drunkard Franklin Pierce as well.

150 142 It's nott so much what TR did as the trend he started and legitimized.

151 RayGun is my God and he was the sun of mammon. And shall I burn in hell.

152 Raygun is dead = raycom ?

153 oops, raykom

154 144, the metro folks don't live in the cities, but they often think like citifolk do.

155 know what is one of the biggest differences between now and the 80's, politically? while there were strong feelings about issues, there wasn't the kind of barenuckled emotional investment, the bile & hatred. that all began with the clintons and their politics of personal destruction. & what's really interesting about that, and revealing, is that all the big life and death issues were settled (cold war, prosperity, opportunity, bigotry, etc.) as the issues became smaller, the more personal & vicious the dems & left became. remember how they kept intoning the past 10 years, "this is the most important election of history" what nonsense when compared to the issues that this country faced then!

156 money & power, power & money. the libs are "all in".

157
RayGun is my God and he was the sun of mammon.And shall I burn in hell.

Posted by: Blazer at June 12, 2010 08:56 PM (zX2px)

Sweet, the flames will make a sexy jacket.

158 RayGun is Dead, communism is dead. Now God needs to die.

159 which is why i brought up 'metro areas' which have more of a population than the city proper does. every metro area has this same characteristic as more peeps tend to live in the suburbs and surrounding area. the metro population is more responsible for the city's growth then the residents of said city. thats why its so difficult for me to understand why this voting pattern always happens.

Posted by: str8 outta at June 12, 2010 08:54 PM (zaGPI)

--It's easier to dispense goodies to the Gimme! Gimme! Gimme!s in a city.

160

Reagan didn't have "talk radio," but he didn't have to deal with the Motor Voter bill. 

Remember Clinton and MTV pushing that pile of sh*t down our throats back in 1993? 

In my opinion, that bill opened up the floodgates for massive voter fraud, especially in our inner cities.  I don't think Reagan would have had a chance in hell of winning 59% of the popular vote had that bill been in place in 1984. 

161 the metro folks don't live in the cities, but they often think like citifolk do."

--i disagree with that one.

162

BTW

In my humble opinion Reagan is the third greatest president of all time. Only Washington, Lincoln and FDR were more significant.  FDR rates below RR for obvious reasons in my book. 

Then again, I'm not Robert Dallek, who has a man crush on LBJ of all people.

163

Posted by: steevy at June 12, 2010 08:54 PM (BrYb/)

and you base this on what evidence? please don;t tell me because of Glenn Beck's seeming hatred of the man

Posted by: Delta Smelt at June 12, 2010 08:55 PM (0pYSi)

look up Hoover he was as much a lib as FDR

J.Q. Adams sucked, he voted present for 4 years and got booted out by Jackspn after he stole the election w/ backroom deals

Van Buren did nothing, voted present as the country slided into depression

B. Harrison was a nobody who got in thanks to New York barely going for him and did nothing for 4 years while giving away pensions to vetrans as young women married them for their pensions

164 DC metro thinks very much like the city. It wouldn't quite elect a crack smoker but is close.

165 159, Believing in God is a good thing, raydick.

166

Posted by: Delta Smelt at June 12, 2010 09:00 PM (0pYSi)

Dallek has a mancrush on anybody w/ a (D) next to their name

167 DC metro thinks very much like the city. It wouldn't quite elect a crack smoker but is close."

---ok you got me there lol

168 Open immigration has a huge impact on the United States turning the population centers into populist centers

169 "Believing in God is a good thing, raydick."

emasculate, believing in an imaginary entity that tells you to fly planes into buildings is a good thing?

170 Ben Bernanke tells a big fat filthy lie.

171

_{Posted by: Glenn Beck at June 12, 2010 08:51 PM (W8m8i)}

He will not say my name.

172 165  Uh, a problem with which?  The camera pointing was apparently a very big deal at that time.  They were threatening to arrest her.

173 I heard some asswipe real estate commentator today talk about the bad old days of early Reagan admin. when mortgage rates were 15%. Funny how he forgot to mention they were 22% under Carter.

174

Nietzche is dead. 

RayGun is gonna take a while.

175 emasculate, believing in an imaginary entity that tells you to fly planes into buildings is a good thing?

Posted by: RayGun is Dead at June 12, 2010 09:04 PM (zX2px)

It's take guts to say that on a forum that has no Musilums that I am aware of. Go post that on a Islamic forum. Tell me how far you get, pussy.

176 No feeding this troll!

177 oh God I can't stand Beck's take on presidents, he gets so many things wrong and has used such horrible evidence, when he starts going on about how Adams was so awesome I wonder if he's done his research or when he compares TR (def. a progressive rep but no socialist) to Wilson or FDR (freaking socialists).

I like Beck but he does get his history terribly wrong at times. The problem is he will read a single book on a subject in history and if it fits his preconceived ideas it becomes hot smokin gospel.

As for Adams, I would put him as front runner, or at least near the top, on the worst President of the 19th century list. It was his evil conspiracy with John Marshall that gave ultimate power to the federal government via the Supreme Court. Yes, the job of interpreting what the Constitution means was given to a branch of the federal government. The fox was put in charge of the hen house.  

178 Tell us RayKron, as a professional truck stop whore how do you keep in such great shape?

179

171 Ben Bernanke tells a big fat filthy lie.

In other news, the sun sets in the west.  No flaming skull for you Monty.

180 im jus sayin that metro areas are the reason that cities grow and prosper. and of course alot of that is due to the populace. for example, san francisco or LA could have never grown into what it is today without it's metro populace and area, no way, no-how. and its also the reason the government defines 'metro-areas'. i just cant understand how it seems metro areas are shut out if theyre all red and the city itself being blue, changes things entirely in an election.

181 177 No feeding this troll!

Posted by: logprof at June 12, 2010 09:06 PM (Mmw0q)

Wha?

182

SORRY O/T

"I am Muslim" So Says Obama...  hmmmmmmm.

183 161, check their voting patterns. I live near SF and am surrounded by lefties who don't like the city because it is too crowded and expensive and the taxes suck, but they vote Dem without fail. If you could make a map based on the individual voting behavior you'd see the real distribution.

184

Posted by: Vic at June 12, 2010 09:06 PM (6taRI)

I agree 100%, plus Adams wanted to shut up any criticism of the prez under his admnistration

185

Hate to foul the Reagan thread,but this is too depressing for the ONT.

Bammy Admits in one-on-one meeting that he's a muzzy.

via Atlas

http://bit.ly/alnzul

186
emasculate, believing in an imaginary entity that tells you to fly planes into buildings is a good thing?

Posted by: RayGun is Dead at June 12, 2010 09:04 PM (zX2px)

I'd like to fly my fist right into your face and I'm pretty agnostic.

187

Posted by: I luv the Gipper at June 12, 2010 09:08 PM (W8m8i)

beat ya!!

188
America - bitch slapping Obama and Krugman.
UR doing it rite.
 

189 ...let me put it another way: back then (80's & before) politics was separate from the personal. now, there is the politics of projected identity. i suspect you couldn't have this type of intense personal emotional investment in politics if there actually were life-and-death issues involved. it's a luxury of a prosperous society.

190 "know what is one of the biggest differences between now and the 80's, politically?"

90% of the voters were European whites and we hadn't accepted hostile Mexican invaders into our society?

191 Miss me yet?

192

Let ME be clear;

I will be remembered as The Most Impotent President Ever.

TMIPE.

You're welcome.

193

"I am Muslim" So Says Obama...  hmmmmmmm.

Posted by: Indian outlaw at June 12, 2010 09:07 PM (8zsWd)

Whoa!

194 170, People told other people to fly planes into buildings. They used Allah as the authority. raydick, perhaps you dislike fanaticism, not God. Or, perhaps your fanatical hatred of "other" means you have no clue how confused and vile you are.

195 emasculate, believing in an imaginary entity that tells you to fly planes into buildings is a good thing? Plenty of people do wrong with no god at all to guide them, I might point out. The problem is not with God; it's with our inability to understand what He says, and how to lead our lives as He wishes us to. We are the problem, not God. The "imaginary entity" shot is pretty juvenile as well, I have to say. Many true and real things are invisible. Your mom or wife says she loves you, and you believe her. Why? Because she tells you so. You can't see it, but you don't doubt that it exists. Faith is the substance of things hoped for, and the evidence of things not seen.* *If I may draw a bit of wisdom from a Bible passage inspired by my imaginary entity. Hebrews 11:1, for the curious.

196 check their voting patterns."

---i have, and the metro san fran area is most certainly red as fire. it amazes me. to use my city as another example is far more weird. pittsburgh is one hell of a small city, it's basically defined by its metro area (originally 3 counties made up "pittsburgh" but its since grown into 7) the populace was far larger than the city proper and they pretty much all voted republican. hell they STILL vote republican while the city itself with its small populace vites dem, and then that area is said to swing dem in every election. boggles the mind.

197 Posted by: Indian outlaw at June 12, 2010 09:07 PM (8zsWd)

yawn

198 emasculate, believing in an imaginary entity that tells you to fly planes into buildings is a good thing?

CJ is that you?

199

Posted by: MFM at June 12, 2010 09:13 PM (38UQ3)

damn sockpuppet!

200 Tell us RayKron, as a professional truck stop whore how do you keep in such great shape?

Protein shakes.  It just makes economic sense.

201 in other words, there is an inverse relationship between the importance of political issues and the emotional investment in political identity. i suppose that goes for "social conservatives" as well as lib/leftists, but the bile & vindictiveness from the left is truly chilling.

202 Eh, Obama is as much a muslim as he is a Christian or a moderate.  He'll say anything depending on the audience and trying to get them to think he's on their side.  Hell the Teleprompter Jesus claimed Kansas origins at times because that's where his grandparents were originally from.

203 183

SORRY O/T

"I am Muslim" So Says Obama...  hmmmmmmm.

Posted by: Indian outlaw

...and in other news, water is wet and grass is green...

204 Communism is not dead. Last time I looked we have one in the fucking Oval Office.

205 197, Hmm. Thanks for the knowledge.

206 90% of the voters were European whites and we hadn't accepted hostile Mexican invaders into our society?

Posted by: the peanut gallery at June 12, 2010 09:10 PM (NurK6)

OK, but other than that.

207

""I am Muslim" So Says Obama...  hmmmmmmm."

the way I see it, no one accidently says "My muslim faith" unless that is part of their faith, I think he might be a christian, but I don't know if it is for covenience to get into Rev Wrong's church.

 

208 [twimc: i am aware that i'm posting idle run-on thoughts, but after investigating the number of available electrons & photons in the universe, i've decided it's ok.] [thank you]

209 walls never work that well do they ?

210 ...and in other news, water is wet and grass is green...

Posted by: FORGER - Racist Czar at June 12, 2010 09:15 PM (j72/6)

Not that theres anything wrong with that...

Its not the facts that get you, its the cover up that people question.

211 STFU, dunce.

212 Watching Back to the Future III and discussing the administration of Franklin Pierce on a Saturday night doesn't make me a beta right?

213 The State Department fought tooth and nail to keep Reagan from saying "tear down this wall".

214 Tangentially related:  Hard to figure out why Reagan's winning formula was ignored by the Bushes.  Arrogance?  People always think they can do a better job?  I don't know.  But Reagan taught us pretty much everything we needed to know. 

215 im agnostic but i got no problem with the bible or god. i think if more athiests would stop the perpetual temper tantrum and actually read a lil' bit of the book it might calm them down. god does have a sense of humor, but he just doesnt take any crappola. hence the number of times he's told israel they were acting like dumb asses. heck, half of the bible of filled with god telling mankind to quit being idiots and act right. not a grand comedy by any means, but i always chuckled at god when he got frustrated.

216

The State Department fought tooth and nail to keep Reagan from saying "tear down this wall".

Yup.  Peter Robinson who wrote the speech, as you probably know, has talked about it.  Thankfully Reagan didn't call Dick Morris to do a poll on it.

217

Travelling on the trains into Berlin from Nuremberg in 1987 I met old East Berliners who had been given the freedom to travel over West.  Old Lady told me that once you got to her age it was ok, because they were no longer useful. I didn't know what to think about that.  But there were a lot of old folks holding big TV boxes on their laps.

Old woman offered to share her food with me.  Said you had to peel the fruit because of Cher-no-beel.  I politely declined the (ever present) snausage 'cause of then vegness and gnawned my bread; she exclaimed to the car  "trockenes Brot! Das hab ich seit funf and vierzing nicht gegessen!"  I haven't eaten dry bread since '45!

218 twimc = to whom it may concern & see the original "journey to the center of the earth" (disney) starring james mason. just trying to do one good deed a day!

219

What I remember is the media went after reagan every chance they could...  He knew where he wanted to go and took us all there.  He's a Legend

220   Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear.  Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ.  (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

221 Bammer is giving BP 48 hours to increase the containment capacity of their well-cap, or he's going to send Luca Brasi to make them an offer they can't refuse. So it's been two months and they can't get the well sealed up -- Bammer must figure that maybe BP works better under pressure, so he's giving them two days. And let's say they don't get it done in 48 hours. Then what? Bammer looks like an ineffectual idiot once again, BP takes another PR hit, and the oil-well keeps belching oil into the gulf. And people ask me why I'm such a cynic.

222

Posted by: str8 outta at June 12, 2010 09:24 PM (zaGPI)

100% agree

223

And 21 years later, the Germans stood and cheered a communist.....

The Allies were a little too successful at pussifying the Germans.

224 1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness.  (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)

    2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death.  They are guilty of a capital offense.  (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

225

Let ME be clear;

If you like your Current Health Care, you can keep it.

I Wont raise taxes one dime. as long as you make less than 250.000 Thousand Dollars per year.

From the new coming book, How I Fucked America.

226 Posted by: God at June 12, 2010 09:28 PM (zX2px)

Okay, I'm an agnostic, but learn how to read the Bible.  It's not God saying any of those quotes.

227

Posted by: God at June 12, 2010 09:27 PM (zX2px)

I see Christoph is back and sockpuppeting

btw should I pull out all the qoutes from atheists famous or not that have told me I should die for being a God fearing person?

228

@10: "...he was on the right side in saying communism was the evil of the world & destined for the scrap heap of history"

Communism has made one hell of a comeback.  Liberty looks like the one destined for the scrap heap, now.

229 When I'm in charge, there will be a lot more smiting.

230    The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: 'Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever.  It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy.  Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy.  Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community.  Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest.  I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.'  (Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)

231 The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose. An evil soul producing holy witness Is like a villain with a smiling cheek. -Wm. Shakespeare, Merchant of Venice

232

How many of you are old enough to remember when you thought "he's insane"?

I was never "old enough" to consider him insane.  I remember thinking to myself, "He's awesome."

Always a conservative.  Never had a heart and proud of it.

233

#222

Not a good idea.  I wouldn't want to send Barry an oily fish.

234 When I'm in charge, there will be a lot more smiting. I love that word. Smite. Only God "smites" people. Humans can kill, hurt, maim, injure, or strike -- but God smites. With great smiting. And when God smites you, buddy, you're smitten. You don't get over a God-smite by taking a nap and hot bath.

235 "fucker, you should die and got to Hell for being so stupid and thinking people and Dinosaurs lived together"

236  I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.' "


---not in the original torah scripts. was added later....jus sayin.

same thing with the "kill ur children if they disobey the parent" line from leviticus.

--jesus man, do some reading.

237 biggest difference between reagan & bush I? bush was the ultimate institutional man. he served in nearly every capacity of govt. it defined his world view: in both raising taxes in a recession and his belief in the UN coalition in the 1st iraq war. his preposterous and naive belief that the iraqi's would overthrow saddam reveals something of that institutional mind-set. there's a strain of that running through bush II's "go along to get along" (no veto's) attitude. while i was a bush defender on i was not a big bush supporter, per se, i part for this reason.

238 The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose. An evil soul producing holy witness Is like a villain with a smiling cheek.

-Wm. Shakespeare, Merchant of Venice

Posted by: Monty at June 12, 2010 09:31 PM (O3eFQ)

Must have missed that one in school.  Stuff like that is why I read these comments.

239 ONT!
ONT!
ONT!

240 and by the way "slaves and masters" wasnt unlike todays employees and bosses way back in friggin 10 BC ya know? i think thats what the big man was tryin to say. so keep it in context 'god' lolol

241 raydick, some of us believe God exists, but also are not Christians and believe all religions are human inventions. Your quotes mean nothing to me.

242 Communism has made one hell of a comeback.  Liberty looks like the one destined for the scrap heap, now.

And that is the tragic irony. Should it take hold in force again, it will fail as it always has. Millions upon millions will suffer and/or die horribly. Then in a few decades, the unwashed masses will clamor for more. In many respects, humankind has not come very far, at all.

243 emasculate, if God created the Universe and then walked off, then he doesn't really matter. Einstein and Jefferson and many others believe in that God.

244 Your quotes mean nothing to me."

--his quotes are out of context. especially the 'slaves and masters' crap. if me and you were trimming hedges for the king and getting a small sum of coin, its the same as being employed by mcdonalds in these days. its basically god telling people to do a good job but using old world terminology. in other words, the poster known as 'god' doesnt have critical thinking skillz.

245

@77: "The lefties don't like to talk about the fact that they were generally pro-Soviet for most of the Cold War. "

Um, they still are pro-Soviet.

246 When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are.  If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again.  But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her.  And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter.  If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife.  If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment.  (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

247 In many respects, humankind has not come very far, at all.

Authoritarianism is the default organizational system of mankind.  We've been battling entropy here for 223 years.

248

God at June 12, 2010 09:28 PM (zX2px)

I just love it when leftist atheist douchetools quote Scripture to try and fuck with believers.

It's cute. No, really!

249

250 I remember when conventional wisdom said stalemate was the best we could achieve in the Cold War.  I was surprised when communism collapsed. Reagan used "soft power" to show that communism was an inferior system and made them believe it. Obama is doing his best to reverse the process.  That's what makes him so awful.

251 and it says in the bible at various points that mankind will misinterpret god's word and laws because well, man is dumb. (was he wrong?) and that is why alot of what god said goes unheeded. read the bible athiests, god rolls his eyes alot of times during the whole thing at how we behave and think like retards at times.

again, im agnostic, but its true that 'god' has put his hands in the air more than once at what weve done....and yes its kind of funny.

252 #247: "when a man sells... making any payment." god is absolutely right! i live by those words.

253

Posted by: God at June 12, 2010 09:40 PM (zX2px)

if we follow Obama's claims, he would disagree w/ you on God and his role

btw: I half-support the idea God is less personal then most think but that doesn't cause me to start mocking him/her and calling anyone who disagrees w/ me stupid

another example, raydick, I don't believe in alien abductions, some people do, I have seen evidence for and against it and have sided with against it, yet I watch shows on, read books on, and listen  to people who view abductions as a truth, I don't mock them or call them stupid, I listen w/ entertaining and cirious thoughts and respect their view, that doesn't mean I do lameass crap like you and other athiests like Maher, Hitchens, and Dawkins do, i'm ok that some people disagree with me

254 Cons, I hereby command you to quit populating the earth. Enough already.

255

I just love it when leftist atheist douchetools quote Scripture to try and fuck with believers.

It's cute. No, really!

Yeah, again, I'm not even religious, but this idiot has obviously never even read a Bible.  It's annoying from an intellectual honesty standpoint.

256

And let's say they don't get it done in 48 hours. Then what? Bammer looks like an ineffectual idiot once again, BP takes another PR hit, and the oil-well keeps belching oil into the gulf.

He must know something that will make it look like BP listened to him.  Probably something like this:  the biggest tankers ever made are two days out.

257 Why am I forced to pay for your kids schools etc? Shouldn't I be free?

258 Shouldn't I be free?

No.

259 When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are.  If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again.  But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her.  And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter.  If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife.  If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment.  (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)"

" If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife.  If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. ----rewritten text as regards to manly culture, in other words, this was injected into scripture. the other part of the passage was another reference to the boss/employee line of thinking in ragards to the time.

.....this is too easy for me, and im an agnostic....

260 Why all the religious talk?!??!  Is this LGF?  WTF!

261 Why am I forced to pay for your kids schools etc? Shouldn't I be free?

Why am I forced to pay for yours?

262

@127: "The anchor baby's from Illegal aliens are coming home to roost, and they vote about 95% Dem."

Fuckin' amateurs.  We give 110%.

263 raydick wants a pony.

264 "slave" in olden times is "worker" in this day and age....come on athiests use your friggin noodles already.

and workers need a "boss" do they not? and guess what? those "bosses" paid them! strange concept isnt it? but its true.

265 Why all the religious talk?!??! Christoph has diaper rash again. It happens every so often. He's a militant atheist douchebag who thinks he knows more about Christianity than he really does. In short: he's a dillettante, and a boring one. Ignore him, and maybe he'll go away.

266

Posted by: Indian outlaw at June 12, 2010 09:50 PM (8zsWd)

well unfortunately it looks like Christoph and Raygun pulled a Dragon Ball Z fusion and became "RayGun is Dead"

267 Tangentially related:  Hard to figure out why Reagan's winning formula was ignored by the Bushes.  Arrogance?  People always think they can do a better job?  I don't know.  But Reagan taught us pretty much everything we needed to know. 

Posted by: rdbrewer at June 12, 2010 09:23 PM (EjxbM)

Because the Bushes (George HW and W) are globalists, for whatever reason.  It is their pathology.  I don't know where it comes from, but they worshipped at the altar of globalism at the expense of all sense and reason, not to mention any decent notion of US sovereignty.  The Bushes never really liked the concept of the nation-state.  That's why W didn't pull the US out of the UN, as he threatened to do and after the UN did what he said would cause the US to leave (not in those exact words, but the clear meaning).

268

Posted by: Monty at June 12, 2010 09:53 PM (O3eFQ)

 

cool. I'll just hang out till ONT...

269 Next up on the 'tard talking point list:

If I'm legally forced to buy car insurance, why would being forced to buy health insurance be unconstitutional?

270 RayGun was right for the times, but the times have changed. RayGun is Dead.

271 Why all the religious talk?!??!"

because certain people refuse to think critically on the subject when the bible tells them the friggin WHY god speaks the way he did. all throughout the bible god says he has to use human terms and phrases because mankind is too dumb to pretty much understand his point. its the reason the israelites were lost in the desert for 40 yrs, its because they were being stupid as shit, and if you read the bible god says that a zillion times. ya jus gotta think a little.

272

@159: "communism is dead"

Really? I won, remember?

273 I just love it when leftist atheist douchetools quote Scripture to try and fuck with believers. This agnostic is wondering which athiest God-debunking website the troll is doing the obvious cut-and-paste from. Because he's obviously doing it wrong.

274 sorta interesting, going back over my previous comments (i'm collating my collected works) that i was talking about the disney version of "journey to the center of the earth" [see it!] and described it as being about "nobility, courage and decency": also sorta the underlying themes of reagan!

275 Stupid cons, the Bible mentions helping the poor the second most often. The first was to love him and not money. Sounds like the cons have it ass backwards.

276 its the reason the israelites were lost in the desert for 40 yrs, its because they were being stupid as shit,

Posted by: str8 outta at June 12, 2010 09:57 PM (zaGPI)

Not at all.  The Israelites were forced to wander Sinai for 40 years in order to rid themselves of the slave generation and slave mentality.

277 Stupid cons, the Bible mentions helping the poor the second most often.

Dude.

278

"If I'm legally forced to buy car insurance, why would being forced to buy health insurance be unconstitutional?"

counter point:

You are only forced to buy car insurance if you buy a car, and you are NOT forced to buy a car, that would be unconsitutional, just like forcing you to buy health insurance is unconstitutional.

279

Because the Bushes (George HW and W) are globalists, for whatever reason.  It is their pathology.

I hadn't thought of that.  I knew we were in trouble when Bush I said, "Kindler, gentler, stupider kind of government." The game was over.  He let the donks define the terms of the debate.  To be conservative--to be like Reagan--meant you were mean, evil, greedy, etc., and he was going to open up the lockbox of government goodies.  Coz he's nice, unlike Reagan.  And likes using goverment power.  Dumbshit.  And Bush II?  Not a clue about real conservatism.*  He doesn't strike me as an arrogant person, so it's hard to figure why he, like his father, didn't just say to himself, "What was it that worked with Reagan?" 

*Drew did a post a long time ago about how Bush II didn't really know what it meant to be conservative.  Some revealing statements of his:  He seemed to think conservative meant "social conservative" and went off talking about how he had already done his due for them.  Apparently no clue about conservatism vis a vis the size of government, etc.  Also revealed in that post, I think, was Bush's post presidency realization of what being a conservative meant, as he reportedly said something like, "I wish I had been more conservative" in terms of keeping government as small as possible and not spending money like a fucking jackass.

280 heres a quick run down of god from the bible, for the athiests...

god= you can do what you wanna, but youre going to fuck up if you do it this way...

mankind (israel)= BWAHHH YOU CANT TELL US WHAT TO DO! WE HAVE FREE WILL!"

god= yes i know you morons, but for my sakes, you wont even plant a fucking vegetable to feed your damn selves.

mankind(israel)= we'll do all of that later, we wanna party! and enjoy life because we were slaves for so long!"

god= i understand that but youre in the middle of the fucking desert you idiots, besides that, you dont even have rudimentary knowledge of how to unite yourselves as one, and form a nation yet"

mankind(israel)= yes we do! just take it easy already big guy! we got this!!!"

god= ive created a bunch of nincompoops....

and it continues from there. dont believe me? read the bible.

281 RayGun was hated more by Dems than Richard Nixon and George Bush combined when he was actually President right for the times, but even though we vilified him in every possible way when he was in power and have done a complete 180 now, trust us that were being sincere in comments re: Reagan this time but the times have changed. RayGun is everlasting Dead.

282 "If I'm legally forced to buy car insurance, why would being forced to buy health insurance be unconstitutional?"

There's a major difference between what a state government can do and what the federal government can do.  Libs who don't recognize the difference in the tow levels of government, and their functions, show that they know nothing of the structure of the US.  Of course, we all know that libs know nothing of the structure of the US, so there's nothing new in that.

283 Stupid cons, the Bible mentions helping the poor the second most often.

The best way to help the poor is to give them the opportunity to earn a living.

The first was to love him and not money.

You can't help "the poor" if you're broke.

Sounds like the cons have it ass backwards.

Sounds like you're a serious dumbass.

284 Not at all.  The Israelites were forced to wander Sinai for 40 years in order to rid themselves of the slave generation and slave mentality."

ummm yes like i said....because they were being idiots.....duhhhhhh

285

One reason they supposed to teach actual history is so you don't have to experience the same mistakes over and over.

Then there are the assholes who can only take away lessons from the Bible than blame Israel.

286

I never voted for Reagan.  I was in college for most of his presidency and bought into the liberal crap about him. 

But I made sure that I was as close to the front of the line as possible when he lay in State in the Capitol Building before burial.  I had learned by then that Reagan was my mentor for understanding gifted leadership.    

287

Ya know, I flipped off H Clinton and McCrap during the run ups.

On National . TV.

I Won.

This is MY show now.

Get used to it.

288

@196: "The problem is not with God; it's with our inability to understand what He says, and how to lead our lives as He wishes us to. We are the problem, not God."

Some gods are pretty explicit on the killing of unbelievers.

289 This is like discussing Nietzsche with someone whose only connection to his work is having seen Superman movies.  Dude, bother to read what you criticize.  Pick up a book sometime and learn something.

290 Funny how the atheists never use this quote from Corinthians 13: Love is patient; love is kind; love is not envious or boastful or arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice in wrongdoing, but rejoices in the truth. It bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. Like I said: the problem is with us, not with God.

291  The Bushes never really liked the concept of the nation-state.  That's why W didn't pull the US out of the UN, as he threatened to do and after the UN did what he said would cause the US to leave (not in those exact words, but the clear meaning).

Posted by: progressoverpeace at June 12, 2010 09:55 PM (Qp4DT)

Details please. When was W ever close to us pulling out of the UN, or when did he ever say anything like that?

292 Please click my name @ comment 279 in that World Cup thread from today. Just sayin'. Wow, grandiose me wants to think that Sarah Palin reads Ace of Spades and clicks all the little linky thingys and therefore read something I wrote... So, anyone wanna buy an anvil? It might plug that damned hole. Let me be clear on this: It might work.

293 what athiests fail to grip is that the reason the holy book is filled with contradictions is because of how man interjects and misrepresents god's word.  and the funny part is that god has said it on more than one occasion in the bible. in other words, god knew mankind would fuck up the bible itself. theres even a passage where god tells non-believers to laugh at evil and the devil, but you never hear athiests bring it up. god knew there would be non believers which is why he preached faith. he knew what he said was very incredulous to early man which is why he spoke on their terms and is also the reason he got so frustrated. because even speaking on mankind's terms didnt sway man's idiocy. its the same as a spoiled kid, how many times do you have to point him in the right direction before you become frustrated? the thing with god is, he was very vocal about it lol. 

the problem isnt with god itself, its with mankinds arrogance and the "i know everything and you dont" whining.

294 The original sin is wanting things your own way.  And ye shall be as Gods, knowing good and evil.

295 Use the scrap heap of cars left from clunkers for cash to forge the heaviest damned anvil you can haul out there and drop with reasonable accuracy. Wrap the horn in the latest greatest space age gasket material and drop her in. Forge/cast it with a ring on the other end so you can pull it back up if you miss. If it doesn't work, pull it out and use it for executions. Drop it on pedophile rapist murderers from 500 foot cranes. In the Superdome. On pay-per view. SPLAT! First event earnings would likely cover the dumb ass "plug the hole" concept. Win win. No pansy ass could possibly argue that the scumbag "felt pain" during his execution. Or could they?

296 Good thing we don't have to worry about good and evil, then.  It's fine to lie, cheat, steal, and kill and just let God sort it all out.  Right?

297 I Am The Way To The Light.

298

@258: "Why am I forced to pay for your kids schools etc? Shouldn't I be free?"

Nope, folks like you deserve to live in bondage. The price you have to pay for us allowing you to steal our oxygen.

299 more god quotes for the modern day that early man couldnt comprehend...

---dont drink or do too many drugs, take it easy already.

---be nice to your fellow man, dont be a dickhead.

---id rather you marry a girl, but i realize youre gonna fuck whatever has two legs, just please do it with a human and not an animal or some other sick ass shit.

---pay your workers respectfully, but be stern, like a parent

---make your chirrenses behave.

---go plant food, build a city, advance technology.

---dont take shit from anyone, fuck them up if they keep pissing around.

---worship me (follow my advice) but of course athiests are too dumb to understand this one.

---i have to send my son down there to show you how to act because well, youre all being a bunch of fucking idiots. in order to build a worthwhile and advanced society, you have to act right as an individual, jesus will show you how to do that, and he'll do it by going to the worst dummies in ur society (thieves and whores). because if theyll listen, anyone will.

---ill fuck you up if you piss me off. (sodom and gamorrah lol)

300

It's usually pointless to comment at #290, but this is right in my kitchen and I can't help myself.

I am exactly the same age as Dave in Texas.  I thought Reagan was batshit crazy, or that the speech was just posturing and pandering.

I had been in East Berlin in 80 and 84.  The Wall was built when Dave and I were in diapers.  It was clearly an eternal fact of life. After it fell it became one of the most important parts of my career.  I lived in Germany from 91-93 helping to clean up after communism and seeing what it had done. 

So maybe it's just how you feel if you're Dave's age.  On this date in 1987 Reagan was bonkers.

301 one more modern day god quote...

---always cheer for the steelers....

okay i made that one up, my bad...

302 254 Cons, I hereby command you to quit populating the earth. Enough already.

Posted by: God at June 12, 2010 09:45 PM (zX2px)

--Okay, definitely raykon

303 Posted by: rdbrewer at June 12, 2010 10:03 PM (EjxbM)

Yeah.  Bush II was no conservative (as was so clearly demonstrated in his second term and the amazing lurching to the left he took).  He was saved, I believe, by his Christian feelings.  That is what caused him to nominate great justices.  That is what made him the greatest friend Israel ever had in the White House.  Without his strong Christian beliefs, W would have been just like his father, who was one of the most anti-Israel Presidents in a long time (though, by comparison with the Indonesian Imbecile, Bush Sr. was a dear friend of Israel). 

Both Bushes showed their globalist idiocy in those pathetic "coalitions of everyone, except Israel" for their wars.  They seemed so bent on a "global" response that it boggled the mind.  The first coalition against Iraq included Syria (WTF) and a bunch of other useless arab "allies".  The second coalition against Afghanistan included a laughable entreaty to Iran.  Both intentionally tried to pretend that Israel didn't exist, which the arabs saw very clearly and is why Israel was the only country Saddam Hussein rained scuds down on (outside of a couple headed to Saudi Arabia) and why Arafat and Fatah started on their greatest suicide bombing campaign ever in the aftermath of 9/11. 

Finally, W showed his true globalist stripes in his push for amnesty - after 9/11 and while there should have been a nearly violent reaction to try and strengthen and safeguard US sovereignty - especially in the wake of how the world treated us in the runup to Iraq - which was a task that the whole world benefitted from greatly.

I liked W a lot and appreciated the excellent things he did (his SCOTUS nominations were a veritable godsend) but he always took three steps backwards towards globalism whenever he was able, and it hurt our foreign policy and the fighting of the wars.  And then there is all the expansion of federal power that W promoted.  I'm not talking about the Patriot Act, which was reasonable as a national security necessity that was within the purview of the federal government, but NCLB, the Medicare drug bill, and other encroachments by Washington.  Of course, again, relative to the absolutely anti-Constitutional, anti-American insanity of this administration and their useful idiots in Congress, W was very much a federalist - but that's only because the insanity we have now is without precedent (there is no comparison to what is going on now and FDR, though many think so) and as un-American as anything that has ever happened to this nation.

304

Details please. When was W ever close to us pulling out of the UN, or when did he ever say anything like that?

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at June 12, 2010 10:13 PM (oIp16)

When he threatened the UN in the runup to Iraq.  He gave a speech about how the US could not take obstruction from that organization and that it would render itself irrelevant, with a fairly clear threat that the US would leave.  If you recall, that message was heard by many, as Australia threatened to leave the UN not long after - but Bush let Australia hang in the wind on that one.  And, as it turned out, Bush went to the UN even more after Iraq, even though they tried to screw us over again and again and again.

305 The lesson I took from Reagan and the Cold War is that just because I don't see a solution to a problem and all the experts don't see a solution doesn't mean there isn't one.

Obama has never learned this.

306 I never lacked confidence in my own judgement.  I was born in 1950, and never fell for the Camelot myth.  I actually saw Kennedy when I was a kid.  It was a big deal, him being a Catholic.  Who knew he was such a fraud?   

Whatever faith I ever had in the judgement of elites was killed forever by Vietnam.    I hate, to this day, the protesters who were mostly cowards.  I hate our stupid leaders for trying to bail out the French.   When Jane Fonda dies, the celebration is on!  It's Mardi Gras at chez Mark.

I really shouldn't drink. 

307

Thanks for asking.

Now I have my sights set on FORD MOTORS,

And ALL of the evil Polluters.

Gotta take my chances on the double down.

Did We say Algore was wrong?

No.

308 I graduated in 1979, and because I was naive, I thought I was going to be drafted because Ronny Raygun was going to start the 3rd world war. I even voted for him. It was my first vote for  president.

Ronny Raygun is the best! 

309

I really shouldn't drink.

I haven't drank in so long, I figure, why mess up a good thing?  It doesn't appeal to me anymore.  I think I should take advantage of that.

Whatever faith I ever had in the judgement of elites was killed forever by Vietnam. 

Yeah.  Macnamara.  Geezus.  "I ran GM; therefore, I can run a war.  Who needs military training?"  How arrogant. 

At almost every bad turn in life, it seems, there is someone standing there with NPD tendencies, too arrogant to need to consider anything past their own sentiments. 

I'm not working on a theory--I don't care to work on this one; it's working on me:  Narcissism has been asserted by some to be at the root of all personality disorders.  (Hence, so much overlap.)  Well, they knew of naricissism in the old, old days too when they called it "the sin of pride."  That, I think, is the original sin.  Not sure.  But being so goddamned enamoured of onesself that one reaches a disfunctional level of certainty in one's decision-making leads to pretty much every other bad thing.  "I'm one of the best and the brightest.  I am so smart, I ought to be running other's lives.  And this war."  Eh.  I know that's not that clear, but I can't fix it without droning on and on.  

 

310 Wasn't the original rule to not eat the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil? I figure Christ brought it full circle. He came to fulfill the law. So I just don't think in terms of right and wrong, I just try my best to love God with all my heart mind and soul and to love my neighbor as myself. I break the law every day cuz I speed a little. I smoke, drink and cuss. I lust a lot, too. But I ain't gonna rob any banks and I sure as hell ain't gonna rape little kids and murder them. I'll defend my family and kill a motherfucker if I have to, but I won't shove my faith around with a gun. Nor should anybody. It really isn't that complicated but it isn't that simple (right and wrong) either. Religion is man's way of making himself right with God (by his own behavior). Christianity is God's way of making man right with himself (no one is perfect and cannot earn the gift of life on earth, let alone that of everlasting life. God gives it freely). Live and let live. Don't tread on me. You can believe in God, not believe in God, or worship your own fucking dick for all I care. Just don't fuck with me and my family, please. My bet is that I'll see you in heaven anyway. We just won't live in the same neighborhood as Mother Theresa. But if I knock on her door and ask to stay a while (explaining to her that my house is the size of a broom closet) do you really think she'll say "fuck off" and slam the door in my face?  Some preachers might, cuz they'll be so PISSED that I am there to. By faith, not works I say... Not that there's anything wrong with works. That gets you better digs, I think.

311

When Reagan made this speech I was 20 and recovering from being moderate in my teenage years.  This was the era when I realized that Communism/Socialism/Leftism/Liberalism were just broad words for slavery and theft.  I came to realize that Republicans understood that freedom and innocent life were both sacred.  They had the big picture in mind, unlike the liberals who would throw grain at bums and feel good about themselves that they had fed the hungry.  For the moment.

To this day I believe that Ronald Reagan was the greatest president of the 20th century.

312

I also remember that every time you opened a newspaper or magazine, every time you turned on TV and watched the news, SNL, celebrity interviews, etc, you were told that Reagan was evil, insane, stupid and destined to do very bad things to the country.  I was smart enough to disbelieve it.

The same thing happened to George H. W. Bush, Limbaugh, George W. Bush and Sarah Palin.  Become the leading conservative figure in the USA and the press will slander you 24/7 as stupid, crazy, evil.

Those of you on the right who buy into the slander on Sarah Palin?  Learn from the past and grow the fuck up.

313 Had 8th Grade History during the Carter-Reagan election and we had a class exercise/campaign/debate/election - students were randumly selected, I was on the Reagan team.

EASY - Iran? GLASS!

Even amongst us grade schoolers Reagan was the obvious choice.


By 1987 "Tear Down This Wall" was pretty much, uhhh, expected. Even the UAW backed tearing down the Iron Curtain and had regular sympathetic articles in their 'Solidarity' rag, esp. with Lech Wałęsa.

Whatevah

314 "every time you turned on TV and watched the news, SNL, celebrity interviews, etc, you were told that Reagan was evil..." I've been watching the first two seasons of Gimme A Break. There is at least one anti-Reagan joke in every episode. If it wasn't Reagan, it was a Nixon joke, or Nell telling Julie she dances like a Republican. I didn't pick up on any of that while watching it as a kid.

315 94 Communism is dead con mofos. Lets move on.

Posted by: RayGun is Dead at June 12, 2010 08:38 PM (zX2px)

Sure, let's start by me parking my Tahoe on your chest.

316 Every god, Must be tempted at some point, to spit upon his hands, roll out the white flag, and begin sowing oats.

317

I remember being 9 years old and wondering why my mom and step-father were just SO unhappy because Jimmy Carter got...fkn smoked!

 

Seriously....I don't know just WHY my family supported that stupid mfkr but that support continues to this day, and I am, of course, the fkn racist that supports the right wing.  Go Reagan!!!!  And not that worthless Ron mfkr...

318 293 Please click my name @ comment 279 in that World Cup thread from today. Just sayin'. Wow, grandiose me wants to think that Sarah Palin reads Ace of Spades and clicks all the little linky thingys and therefore read something I wrote... So, anyone wanna buy an anvil? It might plug that damned hole. Let me be clear on this: It might work.

Posted by: ed davis at June 12, 2010 10:13 PM (Epj2t)

Sarahcuda?

on MY AoSHQ? 

It's more likely than you think. 

I don't know her, but I do know her right-hand gal. And her Right-Hand-Gal is an unapologetic Moronette.  If you missed it, she went toe-to-toe with Ron Paul on Judge Napolitano's show earlier tonight and won handily.  I hope this is a preview of 2012, because she showed tonight that she can easily handle all comers.

319

Well then. Lets try 8.00 $  per gallon of gas on for size.

When I let the Evil Bush Tax Cuts Expire at the end of THIS YEAR...

You will all belong to me dot period.

320

*throws rice*

*time warp*

321 This speech was REAL HOPE.    Not the empty promises of the welfare state that Obama and Progressives offer.

This speech still chokes me up when I watch it.  I was in High School when Reagan first gave it.  It touched me then.  It still does today.

Did you know that Russia celebrates Independence day today?  (go ahead, Google it).

Few words have ever been so powerful in our age:

"Mr Gorbachev, open this gate
Mr Gorbachev, tear down this wall!"

Reagan was advised to NOT say these words.  They were seen as inflammatory.  His advisers felt it would antagonize the Soviets.  They were wrong. 

It makes me pine for a leader that doesn't act based on a "focus group" or a bunch of no-nothing professors' opinions. 

322
After the wall was torn down, every media pundit and liberal (if that's not redundant) declared that we knew all along that the Soviet system was failing from within and its collapse was inevitable.

They just never found any public figure other than Reagan who was saying that in 1981. The rest didn't catch on until 1991.

323 I did my first visit to Berlin in 1992. Everybody was excited because they unblocked part of the Brandenburg Gate so the No. 100 bus could drive right under it. They also opened up the telephone exchange between east and west Berlin so you could dial direct. In no man's land, there were abandoned tanks, trucks, and MIGs -- all spray painted colors with squatters living in them. It was wild.

324

I was 27 in '87, and I thought Reagan was bat-sh!t crazy, too. His trillion-dollar Star Wars program did little to sway that belief. Then, I saw the rusting of the Iron Curtain accelerate after his speech.

The Pope, the Solidarity movement, the people, all gained strength from his speech, all opened my eyes to the logic of his insanity.

By contrast, Mr. Kool is all smooth talk and ideology but no maturity, world-class thinking, or leadership skills.

=====

"The bombing begins at 5 o'clock ..."

325 “We’ve got to find a way to knock this thing down.” --Gov. Reagan in Germany, 1978

“We’ve got to find a way to knock this thing down.” --Abu Obama in America, 1978

326

Reagan had some brass balls, compared to everyone else that has held the office since then.  He played a mean game of chicken with the Soviets, and damn if it didn't work.   Yes, Solidarity and Lech Walesa, Pope John Paul, and Thatcher.  The combination made the impossible, happen.

I never thought that the wall would come down in my lifetime.

327 Eph 2:5 makes sense to me. Click my name to read something about it. 

328 I was just a few years older on that day, and I fully expected him to lambast the Wall and its bloody history and the reasons it was there and guarded by arms, but when he came out and said, "Mr. Gorbachev:  tear down this wall!"  I lept to my feet, cheering and applauding.  Which was awkward, since I was in my living room at the time.

And just a couple years later, I watched the live coverage - on the only 24 hour news network then, CNN - of young people chiseling it apart.  The greatest threat to freedom in the history of mankind was the Soviet Empire.  In 1979, for the first time ever, the respected British military magazine Jane's Review ranked the USSR as the greatest military power in the world overall.  It had seemed we were losing the long Cold War.  But Reagan showed what today's leaders should know:  the bullies are tough when you back off, and demand ever more when you offer them anything, but if you face them down straight on and don't give an inch, they generally shrink away.

In the words of Churchill:  "One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half."

Obama should be heeding, but he's the guy who sent the Churchill bust back.

329

counter point:

You are only forced to buy car insurance if you buy a car, and you are NOT forced to buy a car, that would be unconsitutional, just like forcing you to buy health insurance is unconstitutional.

Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at June 12, 2010 10:02 PM (ACkhT)

Even better counterpoint, John- driving is a privilege, not a right. The states can regulate driving and vehicle ownership any way they want.

330 I have read and I have been questioned since I have been here, about certain demonstrations against my coming. 

And I would like to say just one thing to those who demonstrate so. 

I wonder if they have ever asked themselves, that if they should have the kind of government they apparently seek, no one would ever be able to do what they are doing again.

331 Reagan's Teleprompter. tD

332 I was a 22 year old marine when my boss said that.

333 On June 12, 1987 I was 27 years old

That would mean that yesterday, you turned the age that dare not be spoken.

334 Some of us didn't think Reagan was crazy. But then again, we'd lived through the Carter years and knew the country needed a serious resurgence and correction.

So we enlisted in the armed services to help Reagan achieve his goals and restore our country to greatness. I enlisted in the USMC early in Reagan's term. I donned the uniform, was issued a rifle, and stood ready to use it.

I didn't care if the media called him a mad bomber. I wanted to do what I could to help the country regain its former glory.

Others, like the original poster, lapped up the media meme, thought he was insane, and hid under the sink.

That's the difference between a a clear headed patriot and a coward. I'm guessing the "Dave in Texas" lives in Austin. Especially since he was precisely of the age of military service. Must have wanted someone else like me to defend his sorry ass.

335
NoCosmologist;

If you served, our thanks.

But stop with the holier-than-thou-stuff. It's unmanly and unhelpful. Liberty needs all the friends it can get these days, including converts--especially converts. After all, Reagan was himself a convert.

336 Dave:  Congrats on an extremely well-written piece.

337 Thanks for putting that speech up.It is a reminder of the greatness we experienced.

338 I watched it live on AFN.  I was born in Berlin and living in West Germany at the time.  It made me cry then and it still does. 

339 Whenever I'm bummed out about our current president and the state of our country, I visit the Reagan Library and feel like there is hope that we'll come back from this awful nightmare.

340 Reagan's farewell speech: "We weren't just marking time. We made a difference. We made the city stronger. We made the city freer, and we left her in good hands. All in all, not bad, not bad at all."

Obama's farewell speech: "I did a pretty good job even through all of your partisan bickering.  I could have done more if not for everything that wasn't my fault.  All in all, I was unprecedented."

341 I was nearing the end of a six month around the World Deployment aboard USS Kitty Hawk as a member of Attack Squadron One Four Seven. Out there in the Cold War. I should not have to elaborate.

342 My Mom always thought he was crazy nutso senile that was going to get everyone killed.  I was nine years old when she was horrified and totally upset that Jimmy Carter lost.  Even then, I couldn't understand why she wanted the Dems to win.

343 Reagan was the great communicator! Obama is just a great reader with NO comprehension!  Stupid people voted for Obama!

344 Obama's not even that good at reading.  Great at acting like he's watching a tennis match.

345

It just sounded like one more example of his feel-good politcal rhetoric to me at the time.  "Yeah, like THAT'S ever going to happen," I thought. I'm so glad to have been proven to be 100% wrong on that, and on so many other things about Reagan.

The Big Bad Bear seemed to be as powerful, and as permanently entrenched as we were back then. Just go back and look at all the nuclear holocaust themed movies, and that was the world we lived in.  Actually there's a Star Trek episode or two that has the theme as well.  I'm even old enough to have been dragged out into the hall at school for air-raid drills (which, if I'm not mistaken, were for us to brace for a nuclear attack). At least we didn't have to do the hide-under-the-desk thing, which I think was earlier.

346 #339 Optimizer said: If you served, our thanks.

Not only did I serve, I can prove it. Want to put some money on it?

Reagan wasn't crazy in 1980, or 1987, or 1976 (when, for you youngsters, he ran in the primary against Ford for the privilege to run against that prior iteration of Obama named Jimmy Carter). He was a patriot that believed in our Country's greatness.

For some douche to sit around saying that Reagan was "insane" in 1987, after Reagan had the entire world on its collective heels, displays a profound level of ignorance, nay even stupidity. Anyone that would use "insane" to describe Reagan is a an imbecile.

347 Just listened to that speech again, and wow, the goosebumps still come up!

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