March 03, 2010
— Ace Hey, not saying you should change your vote, but your brother might think you should...
Tonight, Barack Obama will host ten House Democrats who voted against the health care bill in November at the White House; he's obviously trying to persuade them to switch their votes to yes. One of the ten is Jim Matheson of Utah. The White House just sent out a press release announcing that today President Obama nominated Matheson's brother Scott M. Matheson, Jr. to the United States Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit.
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Posted by: nickless at March 03, 2010 02:51 PM (MMC8r)
Matheson frere should take the nomination and run.
Posted by: AmishDude at March 03, 2010 02:52 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Thank you sir, could I have another at March 03, 2010 02:52 PM (ucq49)
The nomination can always be withdrawn.
If circumstances warrant.
Posted by: nickless at March 03, 2010 02:53 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Vic at March 03, 2010 02:53 PM (QrA9E)
Posted by: curious at March 03, 2010 02:53 PM (p302b)
You put one of your votes in the no column.
He puts your brother in the court.
Posted by: Unclefacts, SUMMONER at March 03, 2010 02:54 PM (erIg9)
The nomination can always be withdrawn.
If circumstances warrant.
Just don't go fishing with The Little Ballerina if you vote 'yes'. Capisce?
Posted by: Dang Straights at March 03, 2010 02:54 PM (v7IWy)
Posted by: curious at March 03, 2010 02:54 PM (p302b)
Posted by: Just Another Poster at March 03, 2010 02:55 PM (HAdov)
Posted by: Unclefacts, SUMMONER at March 03, 2010 02:56 PM (erIg9)
BTW, isn't this quite a bit over the legal line?
Posted by: jukin at March 03, 2010 02:56 PM (vkkNZ)
Posted by: runningrn at March 03, 2010 02:57 PM (CfmlF)
An anonymous White House source said Megan McCain is on Obama's short list to fill the next Supreme Court vacancy. the Maverick himself is scheduled to eat lunch with the President tomorrow.
Posted by: Katie Couric's colon at March 03, 2010 02:58 PM (Oxen1)
Posted by: Unclefacts, SUMMONER at March 03, 2010 06:56 PM (erIg9)
Ha! Unclefacts! We are like kismet today!
Posted by: runningrn at March 03, 2010 02:58 PM (CfmlF)
Isnt' this just another layer in what American Spectator mentioned a while back, with Sestak in PA being offered a high-profile post if he drops out? AmSpec pointed at that those are imprisonable offenses.
I would think that with that sort of stuff already floating around, the Admin would be careful to avoid things like this.
Posted by: JamesLee at March 03, 2010 03:00 PM (OQHRU)
Tonight, Barack Obama will host ten House Democrats who voted against the health care bill in November at the White House; he's obviously trying to persuade them to switch their votes to yes. One of the ten is Jim Matheson of Utah. The White House just sent out a press release announcing that today President Obama nominated Matheson's brother Scott M. Matheson, Jr. to the United States Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit.
I'm sure this is a non-story--at least for our esteemed members of the press, anyways.
Posted by: runningrn at March 03, 2010 03:00 PM (CfmlF)
I think this move has to back-fire on Obama. Now there is no way Matheson can vote "yes" and avoid the appearance that he has sold his vote. And that will be important around here.
Posted by: CM at March 03, 2010 03:01 PM (f14vX)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 03, 2010 03:02 PM (UOM48)
I would think that with that sort of stuff already floating around, the Admin would be careful to avoid things like this.
Ha! Ha! That's funny! This administration doesn't have to be careful to do or not do anything. They are arrogant, plus the media is in lockstep with them. They have nothing to fear--their insistence on passing healthcare reform with reconciliation just proves the level of hubris in the Democrat party.
Posted by: runningrn at March 03, 2010 03:02 PM (CfmlF)
Posted by: Just Another Poster at March 03, 2010 03:03 PM (HAdov)
Posted by: runningrn at March 03, 2010 03:03 PM (CfmlF)
Barky's listening to Rahmbo again.
Yeah, his particularly odious stench is all over this one, ain't it?
Posted by: Dang Straights at March 03, 2010 03:05 PM (v7IWy)
I would think that with that sort of stuff already floating around, the Admin would be careful to avoid things like this.
I guess I should have worded that "A reasonably competent Administration.."
Posted by: JamesLee at March 03, 2010 03:05 PM (OQHRU)
Ha! Unclefacts! We are like kismet today!
Posted by: runningrn at March 03, 2010 06:58 PM (CfmlF)
srsly!
Posted by: Unclefacts, SUMMONER at March 03, 2010 03:06 PM (erIg9)
Really.
This piece of shit is going to be the first POTUS removed from office.
Really.
Posted by: MikeO at March 03, 2010 03:09 PM (lBmZl)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 03, 2010 03:11 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Prince Barack Machiavelli at March 03, 2010 03:11 PM (CfmlF)
Posted by: Barack 'Knuckles' Obama at March 03, 2010 03:11 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Antimatter at March 03, 2010 03:11 PM (gbCNS)
"Death or cake?"
"I'll take death..."
"Really?!?"
"No, just kidding, I'll take the cake."
"Were going to run out of cake at this rate..."
Posted by: 7% Solution at March 03, 2010 03:12 PM (43Ntr)
Posted by: bloaTED Kennedy at March 03, 2010 03:13 PM (qO6T2)
Hey Unclefacts, can you summon me a sixer of 60 min IPA? I'm a lazy, lazy man.
Posted by: Dang Straights at March 03, 2010 07:07 PM (v7IWy)
Meteors, bacons, Guinness. No IPA nonsense!
Posted by: Unclefacts, SUMMONER at March 03, 2010 03:13 PM (erIg9)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 03, 2010 03:14 PM (UOM48)
"It's Obamatown!"
Yeah, I keep waiting for the big huge statues and building sized pictures of Obama to start cropping up in all the big cities.
Posted by: runningrn at March 03, 2010 03:14 PM (CfmlF)
Posted by: John 'Abscam' Murtha (D) Underworld at March 03, 2010 03:14 PM (qO6T2)
I keep thinking he'll leave voluntarily, being bored and unable to "remake America".
If he weren't a "historic" president, he would be toast right now. Even the usual Democrat halo wouldn't save him.
Posted by: AmishDude at March 03, 2010 03:14 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: progressoverpeace at March 03, 2010 03:14 PM (A46hP)
Jane, I'm going with arrogant and evil!
Posted by: runningrn at March 03, 2010 03:15 PM (CfmlF)
Posted by: Desiree Rodgers at March 03, 2010 03:15 PM (qO6T2)
Yeah, I keep waiting for the big huge statues and building sized
pictures of Obama to start cropping up in all the big cities.
Stimulus!
Posted by: Barack 'Knuckles' Obama at March 03, 2010 03:16 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Plate of fried chicken, Savannah, GA at March 03, 2010 03:16 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: AmishDude at March 03, 2010 07:14 PM (T0NGe)
Not a chance. The Precedent's a suicide bomber on his run.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at March 03, 2010 03:16 PM (A46hP)
Now the Rep can just vote "no."
What's Obama gonna do? Pull the nomination? That would be either confirm it was a bribe, or appear as political retaliation.
Posted by: big_pale at March 03, 2010 03:16 PM (2jS2P)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 03, 2010 03:18 PM (UOM48)
Wow! Just wow! Brazen seems to be insufficient to describe this level of corruption. Mayor Daley (All of them) would be proud. So would Blago.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at March 03, 2010 03:19 PM (0q2P7)
If he weren't a "historic" president, he would be toast right now.
I predict he'll make history by being the first president discovered to actually be a heavily buttered burnt piece of bread.
Posted by: Antimatter at March 03, 2010 03:19 PM (gbCNS)
Heh! I've been virtually vacuuming while I've been on here. Unfortunately, my floors are still dirty!
Posted by: runningrn at March 03, 2010 03:20 PM (CfmlF)
Posted by: progressoverpeace at March 03, 2010 07:16 PM (A46hP)
Add extra. Trust me.
Posted by: Junkbomber at March 03, 2010 03:20 PM (wQFCR)
What's Obama gonna do? Pull the nomination? That would be either confirm it was a bribe, or appear as political retaliation.
Posted by: big_pale at March 03, 2010 07:16 PM (2jS2P)
The Precedent doesn't care. He doesn't care what anything looks like. He would just get up on TV and say that he never nominated the guy. He pulls this crap all the time. He's been daring people to try to throw him out, or find him ineligible (as he is) since the beginning. He just wants to cause chaos and he's happy to push us to all ends.
Think of Saddam Hussein intentionally dumping 40,000,000 barrels of oilinto the gulf and lighting just about every single oil well in Kuwait on fire, all as he was being allowed to retreat in one of the most humiliating military defeats in all of recorded history ... that's what The Precedent is up to. Maybe it's a "hussein" thing ...
Posted by: progressoverpeace at March 03, 2010 03:21 PM (A46hP)
I predict he'll make history by being the first president discovered to actually be a heavily buttered burnt piece of bread.
Hmm, you are flirting with racism my friend. Please stand by!
Posted by: Maxine Waters at March 03, 2010 03:21 PM (CfmlF)
Wonder just what they've offered Lindsey Graham to work with them on the cap & tax shit?
Somehow, I need to put aside all this freakin' anger & hate this bunch of f*ckwits have stirred in me, before I spontaneously combust. Gaawwwd!
Posted by: Steph at March 03, 2010 03:22 PM (riZEn)
Somehow, I need to put aside all this freakin' anger & hate this bunch of f*ckwits have stirred in me, before I spontaneously combust. Gaawwwd!
I feel your rage, sistah! I think I'll go vacuum like a madwoman now!
Posted by: runningrn at March 03, 2010 03:23 PM (CfmlF)
Posted by: Barack 'Knuckles' Obama at March 03, 2010 03:24 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: snafu at March 03, 2010 03:24 PM (8d28r)
Wonder just what they've offered Lindsey Graham to work with them on the cap & tax shit?
Pics of his trysts in public restrooms.
Posted by: Dang Straights at March 03, 2010 03:24 PM (v7IWy)
Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at March 03, 2010 03:24 PM (it3vN)
BIG BALLS!!
Faux & PMSNBC haev yet to report on this HUGE story..they're too concerned about the kid in the control tower at JFK.
Posted by: dananjcon at March 03, 2010 03:25 PM (z5B2J)
Pics of his trysts in public restrooms.
No fuckin' way!
Posted by: Larry Craig, Private Citizen at March 03, 2010 03:26 PM (wQFCR)
Faux & PMSNBC haev yet to report on this HUGE story..they're too concerned about the kid in the control tower at JFK.
Posted by: dananjcon at March 03, 2010 07:25 PM (z5B2J)
I'd rather have that kid take over in the Oval Office.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at March 03, 2010 03:27 PM (A46hP)
Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at March 03, 2010 07:24 PM (it3vN)
Laugh away. Loudly and lastly.
Posted by: The itchy trigger finger of a for now anonymous but regular commenter at March 03, 2010 03:28 PM (wQFCR)
I feel your rage, sistah! I think I'll go vacuum like a madwoman now!
Posted by: runningrn at March 03, 2010 07:23 PM (CfmlF)
Heh, I did that after that sanctimonious blowhard speech this afternoon. Cussing & vacuuming....
Posted by: Steph at March 03, 2010 03:28 PM (riZEn)
Posted by: Barry O'Bamster, Teh Untouchable at March 03, 2010 03:28 PM (CfmlF)
Their father was governor of Utah from '77 to '85, so they both started out with a lot more political experience than Obama.
Posted by: CM at March 03, 2010 03:29 PM (f14vX)
Always be nice to bankers. Always be nice to pension fund managers. Always be nice to the media. In that order.
John Gotti
I have built my organization upon fear.
Al Capone
We're not children here. The law is-how should I put it? A convenience. Or a convenience for some people, and an inconvenience for other people.
Paul Castellano
I won.
Barry Obama
Posted by: Atomic Roach at March 03, 2010 03:29 PM (Oxen1)
Is that what they're calling it these days?
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at March 03, 2010 03:30 PM (otlXg)
Posted by: Steph at March 03, 2010 07:28 PM (riZEn)
Pics or it didnt's happen.
Posted by: Still anonymous but strangely aroused regular commenter at March 03, 2010 03:31 PM (wQFCR)
There's been murals all over, murals being a time-honored Marxist-Leninist art form. But they're cheap to make...statues are going to take tax dollars.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 03, 2010 03:31 PM (OkT2m)
Posted by: Dr. Spank at March 03, 2010 03:34 PM (0FiCa)
look, if any of you are in the Va Districts represented by Dems Perriello, Nye or Connolly, start calling them. RPV ran ads today about how they all accepted Charlie Rangel money. They are feeling the heat.
and Perriello swore up & down that he would not vote YAY if abortion were federally funded (it is in the SEnate bill).
burn up the phones people. stand your ground.
Posted by: kelley in virginia at March 03, 2010 03:34 PM (Oan2w)
Posted by: snafu at March 03, 2010 03:37 PM (8d28r)
Posted by: alaska trash at March 03, 2010 03:38 PM (9VMKc)
This is about promising a reward to the other Undecideds.
Posted by: Zimriel at March 03, 2010 03:40 PM (Wqo+a)
Pics or it didnt's happen.
Posted by: Still anonymous but strangely aroused regular commenter at March 03, 2010 07:31 PM (wQFCR)
I'm sure you wouldn't want to see a skinny, little, red-faced woman yelling at the top of her lungs like a drunken Sailor, while banging hell out of the furniture with a vacuum cleaner. 
Posted by: Steph at March 03, 2010 03:41 PM (riZEn)
Posted by: Predator Trapper MD at March 03, 2010 03:42 PM (qO6T2)
Posted by: mama winger at March 03, 2010 03:42 PM (Ue9UN)
Fuckheads.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at March 03, 2010 03:43 PM (5I0Yr)
You had me at banging the hell out of the furniture.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at March 03, 2010 03:44 PM (5I0Yr)
Are they stupid enough to think he'll follow through?
Hrm, probably.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 03, 2010 03:45 PM (OkT2m)
Posted by: Lucia Brasi at March 03, 2010 03:45 PM (U4QtB)
Posted by: RushBabe at March 03, 2010 03:45 PM (LKkE8)
Posted by: unknown jane at March 03, 2010 03:46 PM (5/yRG)
BIG BALLS!!
Faux & PMSNBC haev yet to report on this HUGE story..they're too concerned about the kid in the control tower at JFK.
Fred Barnes mentioned it near the end of Special Report.
Posted by: s☺mej☼e at March 03, 2010 03:46 PM (8zQxF)
Posted by: arhooley at March 03, 2010 03:47 PM (2zkIP)
This latest shenanigan has to get shouted across the internets. It needs its own post. It needs to get out there and it needs to gain traction. Barry the Magic Transparent Man pulled off this whole dog and pony show with the Republicans last week trying to make it look like the backroom deals were gone - out - kaput.
This puts that whole stinking mess right back on the table where the regular guy can get a whiff of the rotting corpse that is getting rammed down our throats. The non-political junkie may not know the details of Hellcare, but they sure as heck don't like e buying votes .
Posted by: mama winger at March 03, 2010 03:50 PM (Ue9UN)
You betta vote the right way or all the health care in the world isn't going to do you any good.
Posted by: Typical Duplicious DemocRAT at March 03, 2010 03:50 PM (U4QtB)
I'm sure you wouldn't want to see a skinny, little, red-faced woman yelling at the top of her lungs like a drunken Sailor, while banging hell out of the furniture with a vacuum cleaner.
Posted by: Steph at March 03, 2010 07:41 PM (riZEn)
that's not funny
Posted by: drunken Sailor at March 03, 2010 03:51 PM (/NZLf)
I know a firm, but I dunno if it's suitable for your needs. It's called CHAOS - Creating Havoc And Orderly Stagnation.
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at March 03, 2010 03:51 PM (otlXg)
CNN and NBC will hold it as long as they can, which means, until Fox starts running it as a lead story. Fox is going to hold up until they have double and triple checked the sources on this bad boy. Because this is D*CK on the table sort of news that would be used against Fox if the sources were bad. Your either right or you get smashed. And Fox doesn't have to worry about getting scooped by NBC and CNN. So expect Fox to approach this one cautiously wait for denials, then start pelting with it.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at March 03, 2010 03:52 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: LizLem at March 03, 2010 03:52 PM (lSuMX)
Posted by: lan sing at March 03, 2010 03:53 PM (BN/2Y)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at March 03, 2010 03:56 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: phreshone at March 03, 2010 03:57 PM (1AnxB)
Pete Sessions has started a new website. If nothing else, it's good for a list of Dems to contact. I see no reason why we can't do what the Dems are going to try to do to all the Repubs in the House.
'Welcome to Code Red, a new project of the National Republican Congressional Committee designed to alert Americans to the dangers posed by Democrats' government takeover of health care - and to help stop it.'
Posted by: Steph at March 03, 2010 03:58 PM (riZEn)
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at March 03, 2010 07:51 PM (otlXg)
And in the end, etc.
Posted by: GreenGasEmissions at March 03, 2010 03:58 PM (/NZLf)
Posted by: Cicero at March 03, 2010 04:00 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: dananjcon at March 03, 2010 04:01 PM (z5B2J)
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at March 03, 2010 07:51 PM (otlXg)
Sigh. I shoulda known.
Posted by: RushBabe at March 03, 2010 04:01 PM (LKkE8)
'Whatever it takes to get health care done,' said Press Secretary Robert Gibbs
via The Weekly Standard
Posted by: curious at March 03, 2010 04:02 PM (p302b)
Posted by: curious at March 03, 2010 04:04 PM (p302b)
Will this force Setak into divulging more about what he knows?? Can We get an investigation here? WTF.
Yeah. Holder's right on it.
Posted by: Cicero at March 03, 2010 04:04 PM (QKKT0)
Will "Sheets" Byrd vote for the bill through reconciliation, even though he invented the procedure and has said it was never meant to be used in situations like this one?
Posted by: Tamara Boumdeyeva at March 03, 2010 04:07 PM (EV+hw)
Posted by: dananjcon at March 03, 2010 04:08 PM (tPSV0)
Posted by: curious at March 03, 2010 04:10 PM (p302b)
We are so naive about the administration doing 'illegal' things. Like the Rule of Law means anything to these mutts and charlatans occupying the government.
Posted by: Dang Straights at March 03, 2010 04:11 PM (v7IWy)
What a piece of shit scum bag. This guy will ruin this country by any means necessary.If this legislation is so good,why the bribery and backroom deals with our tax money?This guy is dangerous to our future and our country.He needs to be impeached now.I don't care if Biden takes over.He's too stupid to tie his own shoes.
Posted by: ziptie at March 03, 2010 04:11 PM (UdYT0)
Posted by: curious at March 03, 2010 04:11 PM (p302b)
Posted by: Serfer62 at March 03, 2010 04:13 PM (HLCnI)
Posted by: phreshone at March 03, 2010 04:13 PM (1AnxB)
This is extremely dangerous behavior shown by Obama today. He told us that he doesn't care what the people think as he knows whats right for us. Then he makes this blatent bribe basically telling honerable people to fuck off.
This is a little TYRANT in the making. This man is dangerous.
If he continues his plunge into madness, the military just might have to set things right. What a terrible time for America. God help us
Posted by: Hateful teabagging constitution monger at March 03, 2010 04:13 PM (9vQ7f)
Posted by: curious at March 03, 2010 04:15 PM (p302b)
Posted by: yambles at March 03, 2010 04:17 PM (rxaXW)
Posted by: curious at March 03, 2010 04:18 PM (p302b)
Posted by: dananjcon at March 03, 2010 04:18 PM (ACkZp)
curious..
The oversite panels are in the bill. That's what the metaphor 'death panels' was all about. I'm not sure, at this point, just how many different, new government oversite panels will eventually be in the damn bill. This thing is nothing, but pure government control over every aspect of your health. That's what it's all about for them. C-O-N-T-R-O-L
As for additional taxes, there's no telling how much stuff is getting thru under the radar, right now. I'm sure we're going to wake up one day and find out we work 11 months for the damn government before we get even one month out of the year to put in our pocket.
Posted by: Steph at March 03, 2010 04:19 PM (riZEn)
there are plenty of good looking blondes with brains. It's just that they aren't dems/libs.
Posted by: curious at March 03, 2010 04:19 PM (p302b)
Posted by: dananjcon at March 03, 2010 04:21 PM (ACkZp)
Remember that AIR FORCE 1 Manhattan fly-by?
The only thing that stopped the Empire State building from going down was the MUSLIM IN CHIEF wasn't on board.
This guy is going down in flames.
Posted by: gus at March 03, 2010 04:21 PM (Vqruj)
what is this congressman's name?
I'd like to call him and ask if he has now decided his vote because of this bribe to his brother?
Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at March 03, 2010 04:22 PM (ACkhT)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at March 03, 2010 04:22 PM (OkT2m)
Posted by: jugears? at March 03, 2010 04:23 PM (ucq49)
what is this congressman's name?
Whatever you don't do read the article! That might hurt and take effort or something.
Democrats.
Posted by: Dang Straights at March 03, 2010 04:23 PM (v7IWy)
O.k. Let's put a list together of the people who are suprised at this?
Please keep me off the list!
Posted by: Jimi at March 03, 2010 04:24 PM (fqxV7)
Posted by: curious at March 03, 2010 04:25 PM (p302b)
Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at March 03, 2010 04:25 PM (ACkhT)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 03, 2010 04:25 PM (UOM48)
Wow. The most ethical and transparent administration in history.
All the other lies began with this one.
Posted by: maddogg at March 03, 2010 04:25 PM (D10tC)
Posted by: Locus Ceruleus at March 03, 2010 04:26 PM (tzcjs)
Posted by: gus at March 03, 2010 04:27 PM (Vqruj)
Posted by: Jimi at March 03, 2010 04:27 PM (fqxV7)
Not knocking PA's at all. Pointing out that we are, according to Morris, going to lose physicians. So how come if PA's had to be supervised before this now all of a sudden they are ok to be first care providers now. BTW, have two PA's in the family.
Posted by: curious at March 03, 2010 04:28 PM (p302b)
Posted by: TexasJew at March 03, 2010 04:30 PM (eJZU3)
Posted by: willow at March 03, 2010 04:30 PM (PtdKQ)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at March 03, 2010 04:31 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Dang Straights at March 03, 2010 08:11 PM (v7IWy)
Exactly. For pete's sake, they already legalized voter intimidation and voter fraud, simply by refusing to prosecute it. These people are no more noble than the worse of the bolsheviks or the nazis. There is no law they will enforce against their own kind. There is no law they will not break in order to take power. Including crimes of violence.
Posted by: Reactionary at March 03, 2010 04:31 PM (4nbyM)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at March 03, 2010 04:31 PM (0q2P7)
The PA's in my family are always angry as they are totally neutered in our state as is the one pharmacist who thought that they would be able to advise physicians as to the correct drug to prescribe freeing them of having to know all the drugs but that was overturned by the state. So now all the pharmacist can do is to make sure the doctor doesn't prescribe something for the patient which will interact with another drug the patient is taking in a negative way. here all the time how this bunch saves the doctor's butts and gets no thanks.
Posted by: curious at March 03, 2010 04:32 PM (p302b)
Exactly. For pete's sake, they already legalized voter intimidation and voter fraud, simply by refusing to prosecute it. These people are no more noble than the worse of the Bolsheviks or and the Nazis. There is no law they will enforce against their own kind. There is no law they will not break in order to take power. Including crimes of violence.
FIFY
Posted by: Jimi at March 03, 2010 04:34 PM (fqxV7)
Posted by: Locus Ceruleus at March 03, 2010 04:34 PM (tzcjs)
Posted by: dananjcon at March 03, 2010 08:33 PM (ACkZp)
She's retarded. Seriously.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at March 03, 2010 04:35 PM (A46hP)
Posted by: Locus Ceruleus at March 03, 2010 04:35 PM (tzcjs)
The only problem with Liz Cheney is that she's intelligent principled and competent.
Posted by: gus at March 03, 2010 04:35 PM (Vqruj)
I tried to pointt out to a 52%er, that Obama was no more Black than he was White, and I was shouted down and told that, "He is Black, and should be considered Black, because his Black side is more "Relevant" than his White side.....And of Course......I got the standard "Racists" at the end!
Fun-Fun-Fun!
Posted by: Jimi at March 03, 2010 04:39 PM (fqxV7)
Posted by: willow at March 03, 2010 04:39 PM (PtdKQ)
Posted by: Reactionary at March 03, 2010 04:39 PM (4nbyM)
Posted by: Locus Ceruleus at March 03, 2010 04:40 PM (tzcjs)
Posted by: dananjcon at March 03, 2010 04:40 PM (ACkZp)
Posted by: curious at March 03, 2010 04:41 PM (p302b)
Posted by: circlin buzzards at March 03, 2010 04:41 PM (ucq49)
Posted by: sexypig at March 03, 2010 04:42 PM (0t7L8)
Posted by: dananjcon at March 03, 2010 08:40 PM (ACkZp)
Miller's been hot in net all night. Looks good after the olympics
Posted by: Unclefacts, SUMMONER at March 03, 2010 04:42 PM (erIg9)
Posted by: Jimi at March 03, 2010 08:39 PM (fqxV7)
HAHAHA! More "relevant" - it is a fascinating assertion. Talk about a window into the libtard pysche!
Posted by: Reactionary at March 03, 2010 04:42 PM (4nbyM)
I think that still, in the end, there will be only chaos.
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at March 03, 2010 04:43 PM (otlXg)
Posted by: dr kill at March 03, 2010 04:43 PM (qO6T2)
Posted by: curious at March 03, 2010 04:45 PM (p302b)
Posted by: Crusty at March 03, 2010 04:45 PM (qzgbP)
Posted by: willow at March 03, 2010 04:46 PM (PtdKQ)
Have you forgotten that they do everything "within plain sight"?
Posted by: curious at March 03, 2010 04:47 PM (p302b)
Posted by: MostlyRight at March 03, 2010 04:47 PM (0aCXd)
Thanks again FiftyTwo Percenters, you ignorant sluts.
Don't forget the asswipes who didn't vote because of the purity test.
Posted by: dagny at March 03, 2010 04:48 PM (sXJYA)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 03, 2010 04:48 PM (9fWay)
Posted by: The White Sidekick in Blazing Saddles at March 03, 2010 04:51 PM (fqxV7)
Don't forget the asswipes who didn't vote because of the purity test.
Posted by: dagny at March 03, 2010 08:48 PM (sXJYA)
Wait. Isn't their plan working like a charm? The Republicans are going to make massive gains that wouldn't have been made under Juan.
Posted by: FUBAR at March 03, 2010 04:55 PM (1fanL)
Posted by: curious at March 03, 2010 04:57 PM (p302b)
Posted by: Steph at March 03, 2010 04:57 PM (riZEn)
Wait. Isn't their plan working like a charm? The Republicans are going to make massive gains that wouldn't have been made under Juan.
Posted by: FUBAR at March 03, 2010 08:55 PM (1fanL)
Might be some truth to this. Of course, I guess I'd still prefer to the slow destruction of America that McCain represents to the rapid destruction that Obastard is bringing about.
Posted by: Reactionary at March 03, 2010 04:58 PM (4nbyM)
Posted by: curious at March 03, 2010 04:59 PM (p302b)
Posted by: dagny at March 03, 2010 04:59 PM (sXJYA)
Oh that's an easy one. It seems this is no problem if you are a lib/dem. That's why I'm an independent and proud of it.
Posted by: curious at March 03, 2010 05:00 PM (p302b)
shadow of corruption will always overshadow it?
Damn, I sure have a way with words after a half bottle of wine...duh
Posted by: Steph at March 03, 2010 05:01 PM (riZEn)
Posted by: dagny at March 03, 2010 08:59 PM (sXJYA)
Anything one Congress can do, a future one can undo. If the future Congress has any balls.
Trying to make the best of a bad situation, not being Pollyannaish.
Posted by: FUBAR at March 03, 2010 05:03 PM (1fanL)
Posted by: curious at March 03, 2010 08:59 PM (p302b)
There isn't another actual bill. Just a proposal by teh Won. You didn't think he'd actually do any substantive work, did you?
Posted by: Steph at March 03, 2010 05:04 PM (riZEn)
Posted by: dagny at March 03, 2010 05:04 PM (sXJYA)
Posted by: tangonine at March 03, 2010 05:06 PM (C8Pcc)
If the future Congress has any balls.
That's a big IF.
Posted by: dagny at March 03, 2010 09:05 PM (sXJYA)
Yeah. I have more confidence that most of that stuff won't get shoved through. But I'm not really worried about the "pissing of Europe" part. Buncha weenies.
Posted by: FUBAR at March 03, 2010 05:07 PM (1fanL)
Oh that's an easy one. It seems this is no problem if you are a lib/dem. That's why I'm an independent and proud of it.
Huh?
Posted by: Ronster at March 03, 2010 05:07 PM (Xu6d3)
Obamatown
Gotta make a move to a
Nomination that's right for me
Healthcare to keep me movin'
Keep me groovin' with some energy
Posted by: Lipps Inc at March 03, 2010 05:10 PM (5vrLJ)
Posted by: stuiec at March 03, 2010 05:10 PM (GU29T)
Posted by: stuiec at March 03, 2010 05:13 PM (GU29T)
Posted by: stuiec at March 03, 2010 09:10 PM (GU29T)"
Immorality is wrong whether it is waring a republican or a democratic mantle, it's still wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong. Obviously when these guy stole candy form the store when they were three their moms didn't march them back to the store to apologize and give the candy back. Instead they said "well the candy store man is a rich small business owner and he deserves to have things stolen from him if he doesn't watch his merchandise and his customers". The conscience and the morals are created very young.
Posted by: curious at March 03, 2010 05:16 PM (p302b)
Posted by: kelley in virginia at March 03, 2010 05:16 PM (Oan2w)
"I want to add a 6.5mm rifle to the arsenal "
Like me whisper in your ear
Posted by: 7.62 at March 03, 2010 09:11 PM (ucq49)
slacker
Posted by: .308 at March 03, 2010 05:19 PM (erIg9)
Monor ProTip - Don't die.
/Else you might end up in Tartarus with your soul being tortured for all eternity by the unholy union of Lord Hades and Miss'80sbaby.
Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at March 03, 2010 05:21 PM (otlXg)
Posted by: curious at March 03, 2010 05:21 PM (p302b)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 03, 2010 05:23 PM (9IHmo)
"... with your soul being tortured for all eternity by the unholy union of Lord Hades and Miss'80sbaby."
OK. I've heard this enough. Who is this Miss'80sbaby, and how do I git me some?
Posted by: sounds yummy at March 03, 2010 05:26 PM (ucq49)
O/T, but WTF?
Tommy Sowers is a manÂ’s man, a 34-year-old unmarried dude who served in Iraq and Kosovo and whose frat brother from Duke is running his congressional campaign....
Sowers says he “didn’t get into this business to be like every other politician,” and that certainly rings true — considering that he’s running as a Democrat..
Running for Congress in Missouri's 8th district...read the article. If he's a man's man, then why the fuck is he a Dem? Bunch of puss!es!
Posted by: Steph at March 03, 2010 05:26 PM (riZEn)
Got nothin' on me.
Posted by: .338 Lapua at March 03, 2010 09:22 PM (554T5)
F*ck length! Girth is better.
Posted by: .577 Tyrannosaur at March 03, 2010 05:27 PM (MSv1g)
I poop bigger than 6.5
Posted by: 50 BMG at March 03, 2010 09:22 PM (H+LJc)
How YOU doin"?
Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at March 03, 2010 05:28 PM (Vo2Ef)
You should probably hang out here a bit more. The common, tongue-in-cheek misspelling of "moron" with "monor" is fairly common here.
Sorry to slap you across the face with the Penis-Of-Obvious... but fuck. Really?
Posted by: tangonine at March 03, 2010 05:29 PM (C8Pcc)
#225 I want to add a 6.5mm rifle to the arsenal and want some monor advice.
Why that caliber? The ammo must be costly, compared to more common stuff.
Posted by: Reactionary at March 03, 2010 05:29 PM (4nbyM)
.308
50 BMG
.338 Lapua
.577 Tyrannosaur
Sissies!
Posted by: 16"/50 caliber Mark 7 gun at March 03, 2010 09:29 PM (MSv1g)
Ahem. You know what I Have
Posted by: Darth Cheney at March 03, 2010 05:32 PM (ucq49)
Steph, the Dems have been running commie lib ex-soldiers for a while now. They hope that the military service will blind you to their policies.
An unmarried "man's man" who is still in contact with his frat brothers?
I wonder what his position is on DADT?
Posted by: AmishDude at March 03, 2010 05:33 PM (Vo2Ef)
always wanted something custom in .338 but lordy, the ammo cost vs a standard round doesn't begin to cover the negligible improvement in on target performance.
.308 makes all kinds of varmints real dead, and you don't have to sell your left nut to shoot it
Posted by: Unclefacts, SUMMONER at March 03, 2010 05:34 PM (erIg9)
The common, tongue-in-cheek misspelling of "moron" with "monor" is fairly common here.
Huh? What kind of bullshit is this?
Posted by: Dang Straights at March 03, 2010 05:34 PM (v7IWy)
Shouldn't this judge decline the nomination?
Posted by: kansas at March 03, 2010 09:29 PM (34yXu)
If lawyers worried about conflict of interest, they wouldn't be permitted to even run for the legislature.
Posted by: AmishDude at March 03, 2010 05:34 PM (Vo2Ef)
7.62x39 need not apply.. too much wind drift. stupid commies.
Posted by: tangonine at March 03, 2010 05:34 PM (C8Pcc)
Ahem. You know what I Have
Posted by: Darth Cheney at March 03, 2010 09:32 PM (ucq49)
We all know you can take out two dozen Tijuana prostitutes and a puma with your, ahem, ordnance, but can it take out a hardened Okinawa bunker?
Posted by: 16"/50 caliber Mark 7 gun at March 03, 2010 05:34 PM (MSv1g)
Posted by: rockhead at March 03, 2010 05:36 PM (RykTt)
Oh, I wasn't belittling it. I have several chambered in the round. It's probably the best all-around rifle caliber, IMHO.
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at March 03, 2010 05:36 PM (554T5)
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at March 03, 2010 05:37 PM (lDHba)
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at March 03, 2010 09:36 PM (554T5)
completely agreed on that. and you can still find some surplus if you look long enough.
Posted by: Unclefacts, SUMMONER at March 03, 2010 05:37 PM (erIg9)
Posted by: Dang Straights at March 03, 2010 09:34 PM (v7IWy)
You monor.
Posted by: FUBAR at March 03, 2010 05:38 PM (1fanL)
Posted by: Unclefacts, SUMMONER at March 03, 2010 09:34 PM (erIg9)
Truly. And if that isn't adequate, well, it's probably a special case situation. In addition to animal irradication, .308 will bring down drug addled talibaners in short order, and will go through most body armor.
Posted by: Reactionary at March 03, 2010 05:38 PM (4nbyM)
And it's fun to reload. Enough room for some 'experimentation'.
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at March 03, 2010 05:39 PM (554T5)
"7.62x39 need not apply.. too much wind drift. stupid commies."
7.62x51 aka .308
Try it. You'll like it
Posted by: uh huh at March 03, 2010 05:39 PM (ucq49)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 03, 2010 05:39 PM (Ca3mp)
The .223 just doesn't carry the kinetic energy to kill at Afghanistan engagement ranges. This has spawned a very good discussion regarding outfitting a rifle squad, e.g. Hathcock's "golf bag" theory.
Posted by: tangonine at March 03, 2010 05:40 PM (C8Pcc)
7.62x51 aka .308
Try it. You'll like it
Si.
Just reading about the Mark 7 - 293k thousand pounds?! No way I'd want to hump that up and down the hills.
Posted by: Dang Straights at March 03, 2010 05:41 PM (v7IWy)
I'm your huckleberry.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dora_%28artillery%29
Posted by: Schwerer Gustav 80cm at March 03, 2010 05:41 PM (MSv1g)
Posted by: Obama says don't make me have to tell ya twice at March 03, 2010 05:42 PM (Vu6sl)
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at March 03, 2010 05:42 PM (554T5)
OT - just got home, where I pay for the bandwidth, and had a chance to see the Palin / Leno clip.
Holy shit! Can you imagine after what she has been though to be ready to go on the Tonight show... and do a standup comedy gig? Her jokes were not hilarious, but her dialog with Jay was pitch-perfect take-it-to-the-bank genuine and uncontrived.
That woman has balls. Our enemies better hope she never gets elected CiC, because their world is going to begin to suck like a fucking dredge!
Posted by: sherlock at March 03, 2010 05:42 PM (N7uu0)
Lethality at the 500+ yard range is an issue in asscrackistan. There have been myriad issues with the .556 round. The .308 round will improve on this, for sure.
Posted by: tangonine at March 03, 2010 05:43 PM (C8Pcc)
Posted by: conscious but losing it fast at March 03, 2010 05:44 PM (Vu6sl)
Posted by: conscious but losing it fast at March 03, 2010 09:44 PM (Vu6sl)
REEEEEARE!
Posted by: Unclefacts, SUMMONER at March 03, 2010 05:45 PM (erIg9)
Posted by: conscious but losing it fast at March 03, 2010 09:44 PM (Vu6sl)
God, it's like a free for all! I haven't checked on them in a while. They've gotten really big.
Posted by: Tami at March 03, 2010 05:49 PM (VuLos)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at March 03, 2010 05:50 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Captain Renault at March 03, 2010 05:52 PM (SwkdU)
Posted by: millions of Tommys at March 03, 2010 05:54 PM (MmNLO)
I'll just go hit up the gun-nut sites.
No hard feelings.
Posted by: tangonine at March 03, 2010 05:56 PM (C8Pcc)
What's funny about those pups is they only weigh 4-5 lbs. All except for the little female with the red collar. She's tiny @ less then 3 1/2 lbs. They look, on camera, so much bigger than that to me.
I've been watching them off & on for a while & I just love that baby girl.
Posted by: Steph at March 03, 2010 05:56 PM (riZEn)
Posted by: Tami at March 03, 2010 05:56 PM (VuLos)
Posted by: Unclefacts, SUMMONER at March 03, 2010 05:57 PM (erIg9)
Posted by: fluffy, 11B at March 03, 2010 05:59 PM (SwkdU)
OT- This is from DU tonight. She's shocked! I tell ya, Shocked!
Got a call from my Army Ranger son. He and his troops saw Obama.
I wanted to hear him bust with pride, telling me that seeing his President -- this President -- had made an impression on him.
Instead, he said: We were assembled there...the 1st Ranger Battalion, one of only 3 Ranger Battalions in existence (and of course he listed them). And the President gave us a nonchalant wave as he rode past us. Not more than a glance and a little wave. Like he didn't recognize who we were, like he didn't care.
That from my son who is getting ready to be deployed yet again into harms way -- his second tour in Afganistan, third since he joined.
This is sad for me.
Posted by: conscious but losing it fast at March 03, 2010 06:03 PM (Vu6sl)
conscious...the worst part is that she was probably saddest about the fact that her son didn't go ga-ga over the prez, not that the prez didn't give a shit about her son.
He cares nothing for our military. Just another reason he is a scumbag.
Posted by: Steph at March 03, 2010 06:06 PM (riZEn)
Posted by: alaska trash at March 03, 2010 06:10 PM (CKwbe)
If this was a milblog there'd be about 200 posts on why the 6.5mm round sucks/doesn't suck by now.
There aren't.
So it's not.
Posted by: tangonine at March 03, 2010 06:10 PM (C8Pcc)
"Not more than a glance and a little wave. "
"little wave"? Barry's middle finger wave. The one he usually displays along the side of his face? When really piqued, presses against his lips? Occasionally uses to scoop?
Posted by: that's our Barry at March 03, 2010 06:12 PM (ucq49)
conscious...the worst part is that she was probably saddest about the fact that her son didn't go ga-ga over the prez, not that the prez didn't give a shit about her son.
He cares nothing for our military. Just another reason he is a scumbag.
Posted by: Steph at March 03, 2010 10:06 PM (riZEn)
I agree. She wanted him slobbering profusely just like she does every time she sees Obama on TV.
Posted by: conscious but losing it fast at March 03, 2010 06:12 PM (Vu6sl)
Posted by: Uncle Jed at March 03, 2010 06:14 PM (eKgqT)
Really?
I need to violate my wife's trust and go buy a new rifle and I NEED YOUR HELP!
Don't let me down....
Posted by: tangonine at March 03, 2010 06:19 PM (C8Pcc)
Posted by: citizen khan at March 03, 2010 06:24 PM (MmNLO)
Tangonine:
The 6.5mm is the bullet of choice for LR competition and has been for quite a while. The ballistic coefficients are superb.
I have a 6.5 x 284.
The 260 Remington is the commercialization of the LR competition wildcat 6.5 x 308... one of the first things the LR competitors did with the 308 is neck it down to 6.5.
But as your finding this blog is wrt gun is more about commodity bulk available self-defense / survival stuff. I have an FN-FAL 7.62 / 308 for that niche but it is a sprayer compared to the 6.5 x 284.
Posted by: Huckleberry at March 03, 2010 06:43 PM (F71c5)
Posted by: Pawn at March 03, 2010 06:55 PM (HFCzz)
@225: "I want to add a 6.5mm rifle to the arsenal and want some monor advice."
A mercy rifle? Why would you want one of those? Got someone you want to annoy/inconvenience?
Posted by: Jim Mora Discussing Playoffs at March 03, 2010 07:04 PM (kmEfr)
I have a Bushmaster XM-15 (gas-piston) and an M1A. I was really looking to fill that gap between the two with the 6.5.
The FN is definitely an attractive option, I was really just wondering if anyone had had experience with the 6.5.
I know the ballistics of the 6.5 are, overall, superior to the 7.62x51/39, 5.56mm and even the .308. It's a really nice round and I would be looking at a 24" barrel from Alexander Arms or an equivalent.
Posted by: tangonine at March 03, 2010 07:09 PM (C8Pcc)
@314: "You wouldn't be talking about a Carcano, would you?"
Well, it punched JFK's ticket, but there was a reason that the Italians and Japanese both ditched that caliber
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at March 03, 2010 07:12 PM (kmEfr)
The Chicago Way: Obama Names Brother of Undead Democrat to Appeals CourtWorks either way, I guess.
Posted by: filbert at March 03, 2010 07:53 PM (smvTK)
This thread has really given me the creeps though. More and more I am thinking an anti-tyranny sort of gun may be a higher priority.
Any recommendations on some good websites, forums, etc. that might be useful/enjoyable for a novice to this general subject?
Posted by: bluetick at March 03, 2010 08:22 PM (N/FwX)
Posted by: drfredc at March 03, 2010 09:30 PM (puRnk)
This guy is just off his rocker.
Posted by: Richard Daley at March 04, 2010 04:48 AM (QtA9B)
Didn't Obama just chide congress for backroom deals during the republican lecture session the other day? Was that just an act for the cameras? Wow, I'm shocked....Not!
If the republicants don't use this to their advantage, then they truly aren't worthy of support. I don't understand why they won't show commercials of Obama's own words vs his dirty deeds and utter hypocracy. So much opportunity, so little guts and intelligence.
The climate is ripe to expose this group of thugs for what they are. Where's the leadership?
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