June 13, 2010

The Great Democrat Embarrassment Continues
— Dave in Texas

They really wish he would just go away.

I don't mean to be dogging on the guy, he obviously has issues. I'm rather dogging on the process that made Alvin Greene the Democrat candidate for Senator from South Carolina, to face Jim DeMint in the general in November.

The official set of instructions from the MFM appear to be "run him into the ground to make him leave". So they're dogging him, not me.

I just don't see this as subterfuge, or sinister. Clumsy, that I see. Very, very clumsy. As mentioned earlier, I just had no expectations that SC politics this year would be this interesting.

Vid tip via Rosetta at H2

Posted by: Dave in Texas at 03:45 PM | Comments (250)
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1 They're only condemning their stupid base.

Posted by: logprof at June 13, 2010 03:48 PM (Mmw0q)

2 Well they didn't bother to check him out before hand thinking there was no way anyone would vote for him so they figure if they treat him like they did Palin maybe he will go away since he is a Dem. and most of them are chickenshits.

Posted by: TEE866 at June 13, 2010 03:50 PM (3okO/)

3 The time to dog this guy was before the primary.  Someone fell down.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 13, 2010 03:50 PM (M9BNu)

4 Charlie Crist is hardly any better.  Greene may not be as smart as Crist, but at least he's earnest and not a lyin' SOS.

Posted by: logprof at June 13, 2010 03:50 PM (Mmw0q)

5 I remember Marion Barry. Oh, how we laughed.

Posted by: jwpaine at June 13, 2010 03:50 PM (g4J4S)

6 As big an idiot as this guy is...he's just as qualified as Obammmie

Posted by: beedubya at June 13, 2010 03:51 PM (AnTyA)

7 I don't think this was a mix up. The African-America community in SC was told that they had to vote for the black candidate and that it would be historic last election. Why wouldn't that be true in this election? Experience didn't matter, it was the historicalness of the man, the color, and that he was a democrat. So why not Green? SC has almost triple the percentage of African Americans than the national average. So they could easily carry the ticket if that's who they wanted. It's who they wanted.

Posted by: dagny at June 13, 2010 03:52 PM (j3//4)

8

wow, I never saw any CNN talking heads put Blago on the hot seat like they did to this guy. Why do they think it was a Republican plot that Greene won? The word probably got out on the Black church grapevine to vote for him. African-American churches are still pretty influential in the community.

Posted by: kallisto at June 13, 2010 03:52 PM (+FkcS)

9 The real crime is Don Lemon being allowed on TV.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at June 13, 2010 03:55 PM (xO+6C)

10 Why are they so surprised that SC blacks voted for the black guy? Did the SC Dem machine think they were in complete control of them? Did they not give them permission to vote for this guy and therefore didn't think that they would? Or the alternate theory that their voter fraud machine was being tested.

Posted by: dagny at June 13, 2010 03:55 PM (j3//4)

11 Speaking of Toonces, he'll be giving another address about the oil spill Tuesday night.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 13, 2010 03:56 PM (M9BNu)

12 Well, you know how the saying goes - the only thing more effed up than the Reps in SC are the Dems in SC.

Posted by: Editor at June 13, 2010 03:56 PM (4UDVx)

13 I haven't seen anyone point out that if Greene can keep it going until November, he might stand to make some money for appearing on entertainment shows as a sort of celeb-curiosity.


The biggest mystery to me is what is his motivation for doing this.  Is he depressed and bitter and this is his way of mischievously lashing out?

Posted by: Smapty at June 13, 2010 03:56 PM (bAySe)

14 Where was the tough Don Lemon interview with Cynthia McKinney?  She's at least as ignorant sounding and acting as Alvin Greene.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 13, 2010 03:56 PM (naZzF)

15 I don't think Democrats can actually be embarassed.They don't have any sense of shame.

Posted by: steevy at June 13, 2010 03:57 PM (suLFV)

16 I can't stand that reporter.  He's the one who got the orgasmic look on his face when he asked about Obama's trip to Africa if the response was unprecedented.  And then you can just watch his heart just sink when the lady said "No this is pretty much the exact same response Bush got."

Posted by: buzzion at June 13, 2010 03:57 PM (oVQFe)

17 11 In prime time of course.

Posted by: steevy at June 13, 2010 03:58 PM (suLFV)

18 What's interesting is the proposition that other Dems can be tainted with this guy; guilt by association; destroy the Dem brand....

Posted by: ParisParamus at June 13, 2010 04:00 PM (2/WqP)

19 Lemon says the New York Times ran a story saying Greene was a plant by the Republicans. Did they run such a story?

Posted by: Dr. Spank at June 13, 2010 04:00 PM (xO+6C)

20

"they're the knuckleheads"

Don Lemon is going out of his way to prove that Greene is mentally impaired. He keeps asking him if he's "alright right now, but you don't sound alright...why are you laughing?" hmmm... I recall a Steve Croft 60 minutes interview during which those questions would have been appropriate. And he wasn't sitting across a democrat candidate for senate.

Posted by: kallisto at June 13, 2010 04:00 PM (+FkcS)

21 Who the fuck is this Don Lemone twit?

Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Professional Debate Team at June 13, 2010 04:00 PM (erIg9)

22 Could you imagine the shitstorm if a Fox reporter asked a Dem candidate if they are mentally sound?

Posted by: buzzion at June 13, 2010 04:01 PM (oVQFe)

23 Nope.

Posted by: Editor at June 13, 2010 04:01 PM (4UDVx)

24 I don't see a bit of difference between this guy and Obama.  They both lack the ability to reason.  One just uses prettier words.  Liberals like pretty words because they are easily distracted.  They make the mistake of thinking beauty of expression and sound reasoning are synonymous.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at June 13, 2010 04:01 PM (sfNbl)

25 14. Cynthia McKinney didn't rate that kind of treatment from the MFM because she was able to win. The only reason they're being mean to Greene is that they know he's an electoral no-hoper and they want to pull the same crap Democrats always pull these days when they nominate a crook or a dolt: pretend that they never held a primary and let the good ol' boys in the smoke-filled room anoint a candidate.

Posted by: stuiec at June 13, 2010 04:01 PM (W+GYq)

26 22 Could you imagine the shitstorm if a Fox reporter asked a Dem candidate if they are mentally sound?

Posted by: buzzion at June 13, 2010 08:01 PM (oVQFe)


I just assume they're not, liberalism is a persistent vegetative state.

Posted by: Unclefacts, AoSHQ Professional Debate Team at June 13, 2010 04:02 PM (erIg9)

27 They're just feeling salty that they spent so much time obsessing over the tea party effect on primaries and how 'extreme' the right has become that they got caught with their pants around their ankles (with the cucumber halfway up their own ass, even) before noticing who they landed on their own side of the ballot.

Posted by: tdpwells at June 13, 2010 04:02 PM (Ei3oZ)

28


When life hands you a Don Lemon, you make Lemonade

Posted by: Blazer at June 13, 2010 04:02 PM (t72+4)

29 RAMMING SPEED!!!

Posted by: Cynthia McKinney aboard the "Arafat" at June 13, 2010 04:02 PM (Weo34)

30 16 I can't stand that reporter.  He's the one who got the orgasmic look on his face when he asked about Obama's trip to Africa if the response was unprecedented.  And then you can just watch his heart just sink when the lady said "No this is pretty much the exact same response Bush got."

Didn't remember that was the same jerk reporter, thanks for the remind. 

I couldn't listen to more than half the phone interview.  Greene is so in over his head.  But it was funny hearing the reporter have to explain to Greene that you can't use the "no comment" excuse as a public figure. 

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 13, 2010 04:03 PM (c0A3e)

31

Is Don Lemon the guy who was stunned at the Olympic committee vote -

"Chicago is...OUT???? Chicago is OUTTT??!??"

Posted by: kallisto at June 13, 2010 04:03 PM (+FkcS)

32

I can think of at least 20 or 30 sitting democrat office holders less entitled to high office than this guy.  Alcee Hastings anybody?

Clyburn is shameless.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at June 13, 2010 04:03 PM (0pYSi)

33

The other question is- why do they care?  The reason he won, despite an almost complete lack of campaigning or name recognition, is that it was an unimportant race.

Unless DeMint gets caught with a dead girl or live boy, he's a shoe-in.

As for Greene, even though he doesn't have a hope in hell of winning, I have to imagine that winning a primary comes with some nice perks.  As stated in Murphy's Laws of Combat:  If it's stupid but it works, it ain't stupid.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at June 13, 2010 04:03 PM (plsiE)

34 She's at least as ignorant sounding and acting as Alvin Greene.

I dunno. McKinney is a bag of hammers and a box of rocks.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at June 13, 2010 04:04 PM (554T5)

35 What are the chances that Alvin Greene really is the product of a Democratic conspiracy?

A Democrat boss was looking for a way to get past November Voter Anger. He simply made a bet: find a guy who is very malleable, sped $10,500 to get his name on the ballot, then do nothing but drink beer until the primary is over.

Who knew this bet would pay off?

Greene's essentially unassailable; to run attack ads against him is to raise a lot of sympathy votes for him. Spanking him in a debate or two will be a real tragi-comedy;viewers will leave or change channels en-masse rather than watch Greene take a beating.

#8 kallisto has a point. I suspect that the word that Greene was black was enough to get him a lot of votes; no need to see or hear the man. probably no reason to even mention him specifically in church.

Posted by: Arbalest at June 13, 2010 04:04 PM (nP/tp)

36

Lemon
looks like he isn't enjoying the Party

Posted by: Blazer at June 13, 2010 04:04 PM (t72+4)

37 Maybe the Dims can handle Alvin Greene in the same way Michael Corleone took care of Moe Green(e).

Posted by: Delta Smelt at June 13, 2010 04:05 PM (0pYSi)

38

@31

Yeah I wish I could find the video.  I thought it was linked here once but I can't remember.

Posted by: buzzion at June 13, 2010 04:06 PM (oVQFe)

39 19. The NYT quoted Rep. Clyburn - he's the one who speculated that Greene is a GOP plant. What no one seems to be able to explain is how the mass of Democrat voters in South Carolina could be so breathtakingly stupid that they voted for Greene. The problem, it seems to me, isn't the nominee, it's the cretins who nominated him. Swapping him for a hand-picked candidate won't miraculously raise the IQ of SC Democrat voters.

Posted by: stuiec at June 13, 2010 04:07 PM (W+GYq)

40 24 I don't see a bit of difference between this guy and Obama.

Military Service
Heterosexual
Christian (I think, what is he??)
Honestly unemployed instead of  left wing agitator


Posted by: nine coconuts at June 13, 2010 04:07 PM (DHNp4)

41

Let's list the reasons why this guy is actually a better candidate than Obama. I'll start:

1. He was probably born in the U.S. to two American parents

2. He grew up in the U.S.

3. He has work experience

4. He's not married to Michelle

5. He might have criminal friends but they probably didn't write a book for him

6. We're sure he's straight

Posted by: dagny at June 13, 2010 04:07 PM (j3//4)

42 My wife's family is from South Carolina and have been there since before the Civil War and are now embarrassed as hell about it.
They're now claiming that they're really from Southern North Carolina.

Posted by: TexasJew at June 13, 2010 04:08 PM (OLueQ)

43 Sad, but inevitable.

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at June 13, 2010 04:09 PM (DB92a)

44

@Dagny

Yeah but how does he handle a teleprompter?

Posted by: Delta Smelt at June 13, 2010 04:09 PM (0pYSi)

45 He's not that articulate. or clean.

Posted by: Joe - God love ya - Bidet at June 13, 2010 04:09 PM (DHNp4)

46 Can't Obamaa just, like, offer him a high level job in the White House to drop out of the race?

Posted by: DaMav at June 13, 2010 04:09 PM (QNU76)

47 This guy is growing on me! He's not smooth or polished (and he might be a sex offender) but listen to his answers. They're clumsy but honest. The reporter said two local lawmakers said he was a moron and Al said "name them". The reporter didn't and Al said "name them" again! Finally the reporter did and Al said "they're the morons!" (all quotes paraphrased). (if it wasn't for the sex offender charge) this is a regular guy!

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at June 13, 2010 04:10 PM (RtE8Y)

48 Clyburn says Greene is a plant with no evidence. Hmm. Didn't Clyburn say tea-partiers shouted racial epitaphs at him at the Capitol? Where was his evidence there?

Posted by: Dr. Spank at June 13, 2010 04:10 PM (xO+6C)

49 45 My wife's family is from South Carolina and have been there since before the Civil War and are now embarrassed as hell about it.
They're now claiming that they're really from Southern North Carolina.

Heh.  Up until the past few weeks, I've always thought of Southern Carolina as a normal place, Grahamnasty being the exception. 

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 13, 2010 04:10 PM (c0A3e)

50 I drink your emulsified petroleum milk shake!

Posted by: Baracky at June 13, 2010 04:10 PM (OLueQ)

51 49 Can't Obamaa just, like, offer him a high level job in the White House to drop out of the race?

Posted by: DaMav at June 13, 2010 08:09 PM (QNU76)

He's too competent for this administration

Posted by: buzzion at June 13, 2010 04:10 PM (oVQFe)

52 38. At least we now see how Chauncey Gardiner would have been treated by the MFM.

Posted by: stuiec at June 13, 2010 04:11 PM (W+GYq)

53 47 That's the problem. Has anyone given him his answers on a telepromter?   Noooo. Is that fair? No. With a teleprompter and a few knowledgable socialists, he could be at least as good as Doctor Kickass.

Posted by: dagny at June 13, 2010 04:11 PM (j3//4)

54

52 45 My wife's family is from South Carolina and have been there since before the Civil War and are now embarrassed as hell about it.
They're now claiming that they're really from Southern North Carolina.

Heh.  Up until the past few weeks, I've always thought of Southern Carolina as a normal place, Grahamnasty being the exception. 

I'm loving the fact that all this SC drama is coming out a few months after I decided to move down there.  I'm not having second thoughts though, really.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at June 13, 2010 04:11 PM (0pYSi)

55

I will happily step down if any member of the Congressional Black Caucus can best me in Scrabble.  

Best 2 of 3 takes it.

Posted by: A. Greene at June 13, 2010 04:11 PM (YWIB1)

56 CNN is criticizing a black candidate for not being transparent and accountable?  Where the hell was THIS CNN 2 years ago!?

Posted by: Crusty at June 13, 2010 04:12 PM (qzgbP)

57

Hollowpoint, they care because he's embarrassing them.  He's an obviously flawed candidate, an idiot (not to be harsh but cmon), and he crept in under the party radar.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at June 13, 2010 04:13 PM (Wh0W+)

58 The lefty  media will be demanding his birth certificate and transcripts next.

Posted by: dagny at June 13, 2010 04:13 PM (j3//4)

59
Thanks for depressing me, Sassy, 
.

Need to find some cyanide pills just in case now.

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 13, 2010 07:55 PM (c0A3e)





Sacred honor compels me to admit that yes........ Alvin Green and I had an inappropriate physical relationship.

Posted by: Will Folks at June 13, 2010 04:13 PM (t72+4)

60

I will happily step down if any member of the Congressional Black Caucus can best me in Scrabble.  

Best 2 of 3 takes it.

It's on! 

Posted by: Barbara Lee at June 13, 2010 04:13 PM (0pYSi)

61 59 CNN is criticizing a black candidate for not being transparent and accountable?  Where the hell was THIS CNN 2 years ago!?

Oh, it's the same CNN, but Greene is just a failed pawn - thus expendable. 

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 13, 2010 04:13 PM (c0A3e)

62 It's an especially ugly train wreck, but the rules are the rules.

Posted by: Ed Anger at June 13, 2010 04:14 PM (7+pP9)

63



crap, sock fail at #62

Posted by: Blazer at June 13, 2010 04:14 PM (t72+4)

64 Liberalism is the political equivalent of herpes....just when you think it's gone, there's another nasty canker sore on your lip.

Posted by: torabora at June 13, 2010 04:14 PM (JggDO)

65 32

Is Don Lemon the guy who was stunned at the Olympic committee vote -

"Chicago is...OUT???? Chicago is OUTTT??!??"

Posted by: kallisto at June 13, 2010 08:03 PM (+FkcS)

No that's their bald black reporter.  Here.  Apparently the Unprecedented response in Africa video has been removed.  I found the report on it at SayAnything.  But that's it.

Posted by: buzzion at June 13, 2010 04:14 PM (oVQFe)

66 The only reason they're being mean to Greene is that they know he's an electoral no-hoper and they want to pull the same crap Democrats always pull these days when they nominate a crook or a dolt: pretend that they never held a primary and let the good ol' boys in the smoke-filled room anoint a candidate.

Posted by: stuiec at June 13, 2010 08:01 PM (W+GYq)

Yes, I have visions of The Torch Part 2.

Btw, seeing Alvin Greene interviewed by fuzznuts Don Lemon and Bathtub Boy, I find him much more likeable than either of those dumbfucks.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 13, 2010 04:15 PM (naZzF)

67

Hollowpoint, they care because he's embarrassing them.  He's an obviously flawed candidate, an idiot (not to be harsh but cmon), and he crept in under the party radar.

Big time.  Dude is an idiot.

Posted by: Hank Johnson at June 13, 2010 04:15 PM (0pYSi)

68 > 31 ... But it was funny hearing the reporter have to explain to Greene that you can't use the "no comment" excuse as a public figure. Posted by: Kratos The point is, Al CAN use "no comment". And he did. Over and over again. Who the hell is Lemon to create a LAW out of thin air and demand that it applies to Al. If the voters don't like Al using "no comment" they can punish him for it at the polls. Just as the viewers punish CNN for putting Lemon on the air.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at June 13, 2010 04:15 PM (RtE8Y)

69 Black 'Cock Haters.

Posted by: Scatt X at June 13, 2010 04:15 PM (YWIB1)

70
The lefty  media will be demanding his birth certificate and transcripts next.

Posted by: dagny at June 13, 2010 08:13 PM (j3//4)






Hell, before its all over with they'll probably plant a dead hooker in the trunk of his car.

Posted by: Blazer at June 13, 2010 04:15 PM (t72+4)

71 I think the dems are actually embarassed by the fact that they have less control over the black dem voter than they thought. Gonna have to send in some seiu thugs to breaks some preacher legs.

Posted by: dagny at June 13, 2010 04:15 PM (j3//4)

72 Now why doesn't that CNN asshole ever grill other Democrats if they "committed a crime"
Like Rangel, Frank, Murtha, Jefferson, Geitner, etc..

Posted by: nine coconuts at June 13, 2010 04:16 PM (DHNp4)

73 Al Greene drops out, and charges against him disappear in 5...4...3......

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at June 13, 2010 04:16 PM (DB92a)

74

Hell, before its all over with they'll probably plant a dead hooker in the trunk of his car.

I don't own a car.

Posted by: Al Greene at June 13, 2010 04:18 PM (YWIB1)

75 Little side note about South Carolina. It was their insane firing on Ft. Sumpter that propelled the Civil War into the history books. Those people were nutty and rabid....I wonder if there are genes for that?

Posted by: torabora at June 13, 2010 04:18 PM (JggDO)

76

I'm sick of being the stupidest person in the Senate.  Please elect Allen Grean!

Posted by: Patty Murray at June 13, 2010 04:18 PM (0pYSi)

77 60. But how did Greene sneak in under the party radar? Simple: the Democrat Party leadership in SC assumed that Democrat voters in that state had IQs somewhere north of room temperature. That was their fatal mistake. Apparently any SC voter with a functioning brain knows enough to vote Republican. It doesn't automatically follow, however, that all SC GOP voters are geniuses.

Posted by: stuiec at June 13, 2010 04:19 PM (W+GYq)

78


Hell, before its all over with they'll probably plant a dead hooker in the trunk of his car.

I don't own a car.

Posted by: Al Greene at June 13, 2010 08:18 PM (YWIB1)






We'll buy you one just so we can plant a dead hooker in the trunk and some crack cocaine under the seat.

Posted by: The MFM at June 13, 2010 04:20 PM (t72+4)

79 #71  The point is, Al CAN use "no comment". And he did. Over and over again. Who the hell is Lemon to create a LAW out of thin air and demand that it applies to Al.

If the voters don't like Al using "no comment" they can punish him for it at the polls. Just as the viewers punish CNN for putting Lemon on the air.

Ah, didn't mean to imply that Lemon couldn't use that, but it's still not a good idea.  Goes to show how green Greene is at the who political game. 

As for Lemon's hostility towards a "fellow" Dem, it's obvious that Lemon would rather see Greene out as to not hurt the Dems chances in SC even further. 

Which is futile anyway because, as has been posted many times, the only way DeMint isn't winning is if he's caught with a live girl or a dead boy.

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 13, 2010 04:20 PM (c0A3e)

80 Can't Obamaa just, like, offer him a high level job in the White House to drop out of the race?

Toonces will prolly assign him to the nuclear football.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at June 13, 2010 04:20 PM (554T5)

81 77

Hell, before its all over with they'll probably plant a dead hooker in the trunk of his car.

I don't own a car.

Posted by: Al Greene at June 13, 2010 08:18 PM (YWIB1)

Ok, your bed then.

Posted by: Your Enemies at June 13, 2010 04:20 PM (JggDO)

82 OT: Duck Soup is on Turner Classic Movies now. Groucho just sang his song about how he is going to run Fredonia. All I could think of is, "He channelled Obama." Every word was a dead on mockery of our Precedent.

Posted by: Josef K. at June 13, 2010 04:21 PM (7+pP9)

83 I don't see a bit of difference between this guy and Obama.

Military Service
Heterosexual
Christian (I think, what is he??)
Honestly unemployed instead of  left wing agitator


Lives with his father.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 13, 2010 04:21 PM (M9BNu)

84 He's not that articulate. or clean.

Are his pants properly creased?

Posted by: Pelayo at June 13, 2010 04:21 PM (QLmzi)

85 I'm really surprised to learn that some palaces require a filling fee to get on the ballot.  I always assumed you had to collect a set # of signatures to qualify.

Posted by: Smapty at June 13, 2010 04:21 PM (bAySe)

86

It doesn't automatically follow, however, that all SC GOP voters are geniuses.

Are you talkin about me?

Posted by: Andre Bauer Voter at June 13, 2010 04:22 PM (0pYSi)

87 My personal theory is that so many Democrat voters are trained to just vote straight party ticket (which I believe they still do in SC) that when they actually have to mark names there is no telling how they'll chose. Like the lady said, just the first name on the ballot or it could be one that sounds familiar, etc.

Posted by: BA at June 13, 2010 04:22 PM (GkYyh)

88 The Democrats are desperately trying to find a way to delegitimatize the election.  This is very important.  Just because they don't like the results, doesn't mean they get to change the outcome.  The man was elected.  He's their candidate.  I haven't had a single person I voted for in the primary run in the general since Reagan.  That doesn't mean that I get do-overs because I don't like the candidate.  Bush, Dole, Bush, and McCain spring to mind.  Greene won the election. 

As ye sow, so shall ye reap (just to get a little biblical on the whole thang) 

Posted by: not neo just conservative at June 13, 2010 04:22 PM (sSIJN)

89 I still don't know whether this Greene fellow can turn off his Negro dialect if he wants to.

Posted by: Harry Reid at June 13, 2010 04:23 PM (Mmw0q)

90 79

I'm sick of being the stupidest person in the Senate.  Please elect Allen Grean!

Posted by: Patty Murray at June 13, 2010 08:18 PM (0pYSi)

Patty, I think I have a lock on that.

Posted by: sheriff Joe Biden , Senate President at June 13, 2010 04:23 PM (JggDO)

91 I think DeMitt should drop out just to give the Democrats chronic heartburn.

Posted by: Smapty at June 13, 2010 04:23 PM (bAySe)

92

Duck Soup is on Turner Classic Movies now. Groucho just sang his song about how he is going to run Fredonia. All I could think of is, "He channelled Obama." Every word was a dead on mockery of our Precedent.

I'm watching that...I don't get it.

Posted by: Al Greene at June 13, 2010 04:24 PM (YWIB1)

93

Hey Don Lemon, you know what they say, when life hands you a Lemon, you throw a LEMON PARTY !

Posted by: Eric Massa at June 13, 2010 04:24 PM (t72+4)

94 "The official set of instructions from the MFM appear to be "run him into the ground to make him leave". So they're dogging him, not me."

Yeah, but that's why there's a sudden media blitz on this guy.  They want to show how "serious" the Democrats are compared to the Republicans.

Posted by: the peanut gallery at June 13, 2010 04:24 PM (NurK6)

95 BTW, I think SC is an open primary state.

Posted by: Pelayo at June 13, 2010 04:25 PM (QLmzi)

96 I'll have to have a chat with the young man if he makes it and give him a sniff.

Posted by: sheriff Joe Biden , Senate President at June 13, 2010 04:25 PM (JggDO)

97 61. They will, and without irony they will say that he has a sacred obligation to make them public because the office of US Senator is the highest in the land... in the legislative branch. And even if someone actually asked a Don Lemon on camera why Al Greene should have to answer questions about his past when Barack Obama never did, he won't see the two situations as connected at all, so deep is his cognitive dissonance and ideological bias.

Posted by: stuiec at June 13, 2010 04:25 PM (W+GYq)

98

 It was their insane firing on Ft. Sumpter that propelled the Civil War into the history books

Whoa there yankee..

Posted by: dagny at June 13, 2010 04:26 PM (j3//4)

99 Dammit everyone! It's me and DeMint now. Just the two of us!

Posted by: Al Greene at June 13, 2010 04:26 PM (YVZlY)

100 Ya'll do remember the Hallmark vs. Naacp dust up don't you .
Well this is the Naacp South Carolina version . A significant number of black democrats really are this racist . It's usually not overt here in the south like the black panthers are in Philly but it's there none the less .
Just stating the obvious .

Posted by: awkward davies at June 13, 2010 04:28 PM (B4e7Q)

101 88 I'm really surprised to learn that some palaces require a filling fee to get on the ballot.  I always assumed you had to collect a set # of signatures to qualify.

Posted by: Smapty at June 13, 2010 08:21 PM (bAySe)

Does SC require signatures? I'm sure the reasoning is the same.  If you are serious about running you will either pony up the fee or get the signatures.  Honestly I like the idea of a fee better.  If you do the signatures you have to have people verify them, and then people can attempt to get you thrown off the ballot by claiming you don't have enough valid signatures.  A filing fee could be used to go to the funding of the election.

Posted by: buzzion at June 13, 2010 04:28 PM (oVQFe)

102 88 I'm really surprised to learn that some palaces require a filling fee to get on the ballot.  I always assumed you had to collect a set # of signatures to qualify.

Posted by: Smapty at June 13, 2010 08:21 PM (bAySe)

SCOTUS says a signature drive can substitute.

That's a perfect example of what is wrong with SCOTUS. They're MAKING law in this example.

spit

Posted by: torabora at June 13, 2010 04:29 PM (JggDO)

103 This is just a train wreck, but I don't expect the story to develop until we find out who put up the $10k.

Posted by: Cincinnatus at June 13, 2010 04:29 PM (r60xu)

104 Whoa there, Dagny.

Posted by: Pelayo, East Tennessee Member of Son of Union Veterans of The Civil War at June 13, 2010 04:29 PM (QLmzi)

105 I've been trying to think of what the dems angle was in this primary.

It has been pointed out that there were some "irregularities" in the votes cast.  I'm wondering if the dems were fiddling with the vote machine they have down there, and fucked something up.  Like maybe they were testing something new for the post primary vote, and fucked something up.

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at June 13, 2010 04:30 PM (DB92a)

106 103 see #7. I bet they elected him by color. They came out in the last election for that reason, why not this one?

Posted by: dagny at June 13, 2010 04:30 PM (j3//4)

107 A Democrat boss was looking for a way to get past November Voter Anger. He simply made a bet: find a guy who is very malleable, sped $10,500 to get his name on the ballot, then do nothing but drink beer until the primary is over.

My theory is that it was a plant and a dirty trick by the Dems. They knew they had virtually no chance to beat DeMint. The were pushing Vic Rawls from Charleston and figured everyone would go right along with that.

So they give this guy the money to file and telly him to run. The idea being that after Rawls won the actual campaign would get underway. In late Oct they would drag this guy out and accuse the Republicans of trying to throw the election and violations of campaign finance rules. Hopefully this would be enough to temporarily throw a wrench in DeMint's capaign.

The scheme back-fired and the nobody won. The Dem party had started believing their own rhetoric and forgot that blacks will vote for blacks over whites 99.9% of the time.

The Rawls campaign has until Monday at noon to file the protest. What's more the protest has to be based on something other than gossip and innuendo.  So far that's all they have unless they admit to the violations themselves.

Posted by: Vic at June 13, 2010 04:30 PM (6taRI)

108 Go, Dagny. Where's Vic we we need 'im? Yo, y'all.

Posted by: Tommy Gunnar at June 13, 2010 04:31 PM (rQTdM)

109 The Dems think he will bow out like Scott Lee Cohen did in the IL LT Gov race.

Posted by: Doom_n_gloom at June 13, 2010 04:31 PM (5jCbz)

110 the protest has to be based on something other than gossip and innuendo.  So far that's all they have unless they admit to the violations themselves.

That's kinda awesome right there.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 13, 2010 04:31 PM (M9BNu)

111 @39 - Lemon looks like he isn't enjoying the Party
Posted by: Blazer at June 13, 2010 08:04 PM (t72+4)

I saw what you did there, sir.  Well played.

Posted by: Goatse at June 13, 2010 04:31 PM (DkEUV)

112 89. If the theory is that Democrats in SC voted for this unknown because they thought he was the Rev. Al Green, shouldn't the Republicans have voted for Andre Bauer thinking he was Andre Braugher?

Posted by: stuiec at June 13, 2010 04:32 PM (W+GYq)

113

Hollowpoint, they care because he's embarrassing them.  He's an obviously flawed candidate, an idiot (not to be harsh but cmon), and he crept in under the party radar.

Yeah, I get that- they don't want to admit that their own electorate played by the "identity politics" rules the Democrats have so carefully crafted.

But why intentionally draw so much attention to the guy if he's such an embarrassment (and he is) to them?  Wouldn't it be easier to keep this guy hidden under a rock and try and polish him up a bit?

Even if they were to get their wish and get Greene drop out of the race, the damage is done- how is the black community in SC going to react if the Dem establishment forces out the black candidate who (apparently) won the primary in favor of the white guy who lost?

Why magnify the embarrassment by putting the spotlight on Greene when they have no chance of winning with either candidate anyways?

Posted by: Hollowpoint at June 13, 2010 04:32 PM (plsiE)

114 It has been pointed out that there were some "irregularities" in the votes cast.

That was a story pushed by the Dems and the press was glad to repeat it for them. Subsequent investigation shows that the counts that were claimed to be irregular were not and the differences in write vs election day were not out of the ordinary.

In other words, there was nothing to it.

Posted by: Vic at June 13, 2010 04:32 PM (6taRI)

115 18 What's interesting is the proposition that other Dems can be tainted with this guy; guilt by association; destroy the Dem brand....

Posted by: ParisParamus at June 13, 2010 08:00 PM (2/WqP)

PP, I fear association with this fella will HELP them. It's the way they roll.

It's a race to the bottom. We truly live in The Age of Incompetance.

Posted by: torabora at June 13, 2010 04:32 PM (JggDO)

116 Just plain Pelayo

Posted by: Pelayo at June 13, 2010 04:32 PM (QLmzi)

117 113 The Dems think he will bow out like Scott Lee Cohen did in the IL LT Gov race.

I don't think he's going to bow out.  This is probably the greatest opportunity in his life, although he faces almost certain defeat in Nov.

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 13, 2010 04:32 PM (c0A3e)

118 I like the cut of Democrat Senate Candidate Greene's jib, does he have a newsletter?

Posted by: Forrest Gump at June 13, 2010 04:33 PM (0pYSi)

119 We've got a West Tennessee Member of Son of Union Veterans of The Civil War but are told early not to talk about it outside the family....

Posted by: dagny at June 13, 2010 04:35 PM (j3//4)

120

... he crept in under the party radar.

Yeah, it has been pointed 24-7 toward Alaska for some reason.

Posted by: sherlock at June 13, 2010 04:35 PM (thr9V)

121 Hey Don Lemon, you know what they say, when life hands you a Lemon, you throw a LEMON PARTY !
Posted by: Eric Massa at June 13, 2010 08:24 PM (t72+4)

Easy there, ex-senator.

http://tinyurl.com/2d9o7tg

Posted by: Goatse at June 13, 2010 04:36 PM (DkEUV)

122 I don't think he will bow out early either.  Unless of course the local DA offers him a deal he can't refuse.

Which is what I think will happen.

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at June 13, 2010 04:36 PM (DB92a)

123


OUCH ! SOMETHING BIT ME !

Posted by: The Forrest Gump Democrats at June 13, 2010 04:36 PM (t72+4)

124 I don't think Greene will bow out either.  Madigan and the machine railroaded Cohen, and he blinked.  Greene is an excellent side show that provides cover for the GOP, at least for now.

Posted by: Doom_n_gloom at June 13, 2010 04:36 PM (5jCbz)

125 In all seriousness, I would vote for Greene over almost all of our current congress people. 

Posted by: JP at June 13, 2010 04:37 PM (+hVrU)

126 Hank Johnson needs me to help him keep Guam from tipping over, capsizing.

Posted by: Alvin Greene at June 13, 2010 04:37 PM (fwSHf)

127 What if Abe Vigoda ran as a write-in candidate?
Second look at Fish!

Posted by: TexasJew at June 13, 2010 04:37 PM (OLueQ)

128

Hollowpoint, I think (I'm an idiot, but this is what I think), using the MFM to bury him is the path of least resistance.  They spend no political capital that way.

 

Just make him go away.  Stop being an issue.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at June 13, 2010 04:37 PM (Wh0W+)

129 I'm kinda likin' this guy.

Posted by: A bag of hammers at June 13, 2010 04:38 PM (aj4hp)

130 105. I'm sure he decided to run because he was tired of being alone. Now that he's the nominee, he's saying, "Here I am - call me."

Posted by: stuiec at June 13, 2010 04:38 PM (W+GYq)

131 Dagny, 35,000 East Tennesseans enlisted in the Union Army.

Posted by: Pelayo at June 13, 2010 04:39 PM (QLmzi)

132 I don't think he will bow out early either.  Unless of course the local DA offers him a deal he can't refuse.

I don't think that is going to happen. There has been too much press about the incident at the USC dorm that he sneaked into.

If he has any other charges at all he will do some hard time on that one. Not only that but he will be a registered sex offender and on the list.

Posted by: Vic at June 13, 2010 04:40 PM (6taRI)

133 I'm kinda likin' this guy.

Posted by: A bag of hammers at June 13, 2010 08:38 PM (aj4hp)

Me too!

Posted by: Barbara Box o Rocks at June 13, 2010 04:40 PM (0pYSi)

134 Dagny ,Of course they elected him because he's black . No other explanation is necessary . I'm pretty sure we ain't talkin' Occam's razor here .

Posted by: awkward davies at June 13, 2010 04:41 PM (B4e7Q)

135

If he has any other charges at all he will do some hard time on that one. Not only that but he will be a registered sex offender and on the list.

Not a problem!

Posted by: Gerry Studds at June 13, 2010 04:42 PM (0pYSi)

136 135 Dagny, 35,000 East Tennesseans enlisted in the Union Army.

Posted by: Pelayo at June 13, 2010 08:39 PM (QLmzi)

--Yeah, Appalachia was very strongly divided.  Very few of the people there owned slaves, and since they were mostly poor had little in common with the large plantation owners in other ways as well.  That's why West Virginia broke away from Virginia.

Posted by: logprof at June 13, 2010 04:42 PM (Mmw0q)

137

139 Just makin' sure that the whole alphabetical order thing isn't gaining any weight.

 

Posted by: dagny at June 13, 2010 04:43 PM (j3//4)

138 Very few of the people there owned slaves, and since they were mostly poor had little in common with the large plantation owners in other ways as well.  That's why West Virginia broke away from Virginia.

Very few of the people who actually fought in the Confederate Army owned slaves either.

Posted by: Vic at June 13, 2010 04:44 PM (6taRI)

139 It's not easy, bein' Greene

Posted by: Kermit the Frog at June 13, 2010 04:44 PM (Mmw0q)

140 From now on, CNN (and other Lib media) will pound Greene with black or blackish talking heads. Looks better for the masses.

Posted by: Nicjie Goomba at June 13, 2010 04:45 PM (6lRYQ)

141
Very few of the people who actually fought in the Confederate Army owned slaves either.

Posted by: Vic at June 13, 2010 08:44 PM (6taRI)

--Indeed, but most textbooks do not make that point.

Posted by: logprof at June 13, 2010 04:46 PM (Mmw0q)

142

14, 74

Yes but you left out the brilliance of Rep. Hank Johnson's D. GA. When he expressed his concern that Guam may tip over if we add more military to out bases.

Posted by: Buffalobob at June 13, 2010 04:46 PM (jWZda)

143 Hank Johnson needs me to help him keep Guam from tipping over, capsizing.

You two are gonna have one hell of a time deciding upon which end of the island you both need to stand on to keep it from tipping.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at June 13, 2010 04:46 PM (554T5)

144 139 Dagny ,Of course they elected him because he's black . No other explanation is necessary . I'm pretty sure we ain't talkin' Occam's razor here .

Posted by: awkward davies at June 13, 2010 08:41 PM (B4e7Q)

Yeah but they can't claim that because they like to pretend there is no racial issues in elections except for white people refusin to vote for a black Democrat.  That is the only kind of racism in their world.

Posted by: buzzion at June 13, 2010 04:46 PM (oVQFe)

145

Very few of the people who actually fought in the Confederate Army owned slaves either.

My college professor told me that 89.7% of southerners owned slaves.  You lie!

Posted by: Young lefty at June 13, 2010 04:46 PM (0pYSi)

146 The lefty  media will be demanding his birth certificate and transcripts next.

Posted by: dagny at June 13, 2010 08:13 PM (j3//4)

If, IF, there is some sort of plant conspiracy, then this is where the whole genius of it is.  They'll start calling for that stuff and Greene will cry foul of the MFM for having double standards for this little ol' Senate candidate vs. the Presidential candidate.  I think he's priming them for those kinds of inquiries.  This could be very entertaining, indeed.  That this "knucklehead" will be asking very simple questions THE WHOLE COUNTRY WANTS ANSWERS TO.

Posted by: Editor at June 13, 2010 04:47 PM (YX6i/)

147

It was their insane firing on Ft. Sumpter that propelled the Civil War into the history books.

Ok. Well, whoa there east tennessean?

Posted by: dagny at June 13, 2010 04:47 PM (j3//4)

148 --Indeed, but most textbooks do not make that point.

Indeed, most textbooks are nothing more than Northern liberal propaganda and have very little in it that is accurate with regard to the war occurring between 1861 and 1865.

Posted by: Vic at June 13, 2010 04:48 PM (6taRI)

149 145 From now on, CNN (and other Lib media) will pound Greene with black or blackish talking heads. Looks better for the masses.

Posted by: Nicjie Goomba at June 13, 2010 08:45 PM (6lRYQ)

That's gonna be a problem for msnbc

Posted by: buzzion at June 13, 2010 04:49 PM (oVQFe)

150 Onc Gloria Allred jumps in, Green will depart after a sizable green stipend from the Dems. Perhaps they'll make him Secretary of the Navy.

Posted by: Nicjie Goomba at June 13, 2010 04:49 PM (6lRYQ)

151

--Yeah, Appalachia was very strongly divided.  Very few of the people there owned slaves, and since they were mostly poor had little in common with the large plantation owners in other ways as well.  That's why West Virginia broke away from Virginia.

Posted by: logprof at June 13, 2010 08:42 PM (Mmw0q)

Even parts of Mississippi were pro-Union, such as Pontotoc county way up in the northeast and around Jones County. Much of eastern Mississippi is hilly, was full of poor white farmers without good cotton land, and there were few slaves.

Posted by: TexasJew at June 13, 2010 04:49 PM (OLueQ)

152 135. Including Col. Grayson, who helped bring in Tom Dula to face a murder charge. He's the Grayson mentioned in The Ballad of Tom Dooley.

Posted by: stuiec at June 13, 2010 04:50 PM (W+GYq)

153 I wish someone would ask this guy about Guam to see if he says something stupid.

Posted by: Nickie Goomba at June 13, 2010 04:51 PM (6lRYQ)

154 From now on, CNN (and other Lib media) will pound Greene with black or blackish talking heads. Looks better for the masses.

Posted by: Nicjie Goomba at June 13, 2010 08:45 PM (6lRYQ)

That's gonna be a problem for msnbc

Posted by: buzzion at June 13, 2010 08:49 PM (oVQFe)






Not necessarily, they can always put Rachel Maddow in blackface.

Posted by: Blazer at June 13, 2010 04:51 PM (t72+4)

155 Folks, it is time to call it a night.

Posted by: Vic at June 13, 2010 04:52 PM (6taRI)

156 This Greene guy makes me look good!

Posted by: Sharpest Tool in the Shed at June 13, 2010 04:52 PM (0pYSi)

157 159 I wish someone would ask this guy about Guam to see if he says something stupid.

Heh, no comment?

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 13, 2010 04:52 PM (c0A3e)

158 Laterz Vic

Posted by: Delta Smelt at June 13, 2010 04:53 PM (0pYSi)

159 161 Folks, it is time to call it a night.

See ya, Vic.

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 13, 2010 04:53 PM (c0A3e)

160 Guam?  My lawyer's working on it.

Posted by: Alvin Greene at June 13, 2010 04:55 PM (YX6i/)

161 'Night, Vic!

Posted by: logprof at June 13, 2010 04:55 PM (Mmw0q)

162 You two are gonna have one hell of a time deciding upon which end of the island you both need to stand on to keep it from tipping.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at June 13, 2010 08:46 PM (554T5)

Me and Hank, we stand together, both of us together on the same side of the Island saving Guam.

Posted by: Alvin Greene at June 13, 2010 04:55 PM (fwSHf)

163 153 --Indeed, but most textbooks do not make that point.

Indeed, most textbooks are nothing more than Northern liberal propaganda and have very little in it that is accurate with regard to the war occurring between 1861 and 1865.

Posted by: Vic at June 13, 2010 08:48 PM (6taRI)

Typical lesson plans of the Civil war in American schools.

Fort Sumter,  Begins the war

Jefferson Davis Confederate President

Robert E Lee Genius general that hated slaves and turned down Lincoln's offer to serve the Union

Union keeps havin incompetent generals

Gettysburg

Emancipation Proclomation

Grant becomes Union Lead general

Sherman burns Atlanta

Appamatox Courthouse ends the war

Lincoln is shot

 

Its not the accuracy of what is said so much as what is ommitted.

 

Posted by: buzzion at June 13, 2010 04:56 PM (oVQFe)

164 This MFM stuff with Forest Greene is damage control. Something happened that wasn't supposed to happen.

Posted by: eman at June 13, 2010 04:56 PM (aj4hp)

165 Looks like Ron Artest has been watching a lot of soccer.

Posted by: logprof at June 13, 2010 04:57 PM (Mmw0q)

166 buzzion ,that racism only working one way concept reminds me of the Obama justice dept . I can't believe the hoops they jumped through to avoid prosecution of those thugs intimidating voters up in the enlightened urban northeast .
Those scumbags are either ignorant of the forces at play in these issues or they really want  a tribal war .

Posted by: awkward davies at June 13, 2010 04:57 PM (B4e7Q)

167 Can't someone just give him a 'Sestak' and get him a gig at the NAACP in their Hallmark Card Outrage department?

Posted by: Navin R Johnson at June 13, 2010 04:57 PM (HpT9p)

168

Speaking of soccer, teh Palin came across Presidunce Tar Balls t'other day.

http://bit.ly/9ADs0f

 

Posted by: RushBabe at June 13, 2010 04:58 PM (W8m8i)

169 The area around New Braunfels, Texas, south of Austin, as well as the entire Hill Country, was largely settled by socialist German escapees from the violent 1848 revolutions.
In fact, Karl Marx's brother-in-law even founded a commune there!
These socialist Germans were very much anti-slavery and many went off to fight for the Union and were killed for it by other locals. I have heard for many years that there is a monumnet to the Union dead in New Braunfels, but have never seen it myself.
Their "hero" was old Sam Houston, who repeatedly spoke out against secession and destroyed his political career in doing so.

Posted by: TexasJew at June 13, 2010 04:58 PM (OLueQ)

170

OT: Heh, I just read a column buy Joan Walsh regarding Obambi. She is even calling Bambi a whiny little bitch that is worried more about himself than either the Gulf or the democratic party.

There is going to be a run on popcorn here soon.

Posted by: robtr at June 13, 2010 04:59 PM (fwSHf)

171


Speaking of soccer, teh Palin came across Presidunce Tar Balls t'other day.

http://bit.ly/9ADs0f

 

Posted by: RushBabe at June 13, 2010 08:58 PM (W8m8i)





Well at least somebody finally found an ass to kick. Of course with Wee Wee you can't miss because he's all ass.

Posted by: Blazer at June 13, 2010 05:00 PM (t72+4)

172

First of all, what differentiates him from any other democrat of the last 15 years?  He is no less than a Charlie Rangel when it comes to honesty and forthrightness, and sounds more well-spoken and coherent than Babs Boxer or Cynthia McKinney...

And since when did CNN go after democrats?  Oh...when they actually are no doubt going to hurt the democrat party BEFORE they get into office, ie lose the dems a seat...

Fuck 'em all.

Posted by: Uncle Jefe at June 13, 2010 05:02 PM (CMPXK)

173

Here is Rep. Hank Johnson's D. GA. utube clip. His handlers later said that he was joking. If you watch him closely you may notice he is dead serious and has trouble articulating length and width dimensions of the island.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNZczIgVXjg

 

Posted by: Buffalobob at June 13, 2010 05:02 PM (jWZda)

174 Also, if he's been in the military, he's got some athletic ability. I want him playing goal in the World Cup.

Posted by: Zimriel the Englishman at June 13, 2010 05:02 PM (rtzHA)

175

Hollowpoint, I think (I'm an idiot, but this is what I think), using the MFM to bury him is the path of least resistance.  They spend no political capital that way. 

Just make him go away.  Stop being an issue.

Well, someone's an idiot in this story, but I don't think it's you or I.

If they want him to go away (and they do), you'd think they'd want to do it quietly- letting the guy do interviews on CNN isn't very quiet.  The time to bury the guy with bad press would've been before the election.  Now it's going to cost quite a bit of political capital among black voters who may not be happy about the attempts by the Dem establishment to railroad him out of the race he won.

I'd have grabbed this guy the moment he won and set him up in a nice office under the the guise of helping him. This while making sure he stayed at least 100 miles from the nearest TV camera until they figured out a way to quietly force him out.  Airing your dirty laundry on national TV just seems like bad PR to me.

But then again, I'm not a Democrat- admitting that "yeah, we fucked up" isn't a foreign concept to me.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at June 13, 2010 05:03 PM (plsiE)

176

you know what pisses me off about this, that cnn asshole keeps pushing him about 'did you commit a crime?"

he answered over and over no comment, my lawyer is handling it

okay, how many laws has fucking obama broke so far?  why isn'tthis asshole hounding him about it?

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 13, 2010 05:05 PM (gg4j2)

177 TexasJew 175: one of those German lefty towns which the Confederacy ethnically-cleansed was Comfort. It was founded by explicit atheists. A decade or so ago an atheist group tried putting up a monument for these guys; the locals there now balked, claimed it was "Satan's Rock" or some such.

Posted by: Zimriel at June 13, 2010 05:05 PM (rtzHA)

178 Does Greene like Wapner?

Posted by: Rainman at June 13, 2010 05:06 PM (0pYSi)

179

174  thanks for the warning

now there's gatorade all over the screen

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 13, 2010 05:10 PM (gg4j2)

180

Over at one of the WaPo blogs regarding good ole Alvin, a lot of tards on there say no matter what if you voted for Palin you're the dumbest idjit ever. So, there's a line of dumbitude support there they've drawn through the electorate wherein Alvin still comes out on top over Palin.

I never saw such hatred for anyone in my life as I see them vent on Palin. Man does she hit a nerve with the tards. To them she's the unassailable apogee of dumbass. And viscerally hated for it. Among the Dems, poor Alvin sure doesn't seem like the sharpest tool in the shed to me. But, does that matter, really? Seriously, Buckley wasn't just joking when he made the crack about being governed by the first 100 people in the phonebook rather than the faculty of Harvard. They're a confederacy of dunces and don't know it. Here's why Alvin is better than anybody on the hallowed Team of Rivals: I bet he knows he's not a genius. That means he's got one thing nobody in Obama's administration has shown any evidence of: a little bit of wisdom. Trumps intelligence. I like him. I even like his failed panty raid. He does seem like a regular guy who somehow busted out.

Posted by: Cowboy at June 13, 2010 05:10 PM (XYcTY)

181


I would totally vote for this Al Greene guy. He looks like the kinda guy that would fuck a chicken, and not in the figurative sense either.

Posted by: Blazer at June 13, 2010 05:10 PM (t72+4)

182 Wow, did I watch the same interview as all of you?
Lemon wasn't being hard on Greene, Lemon was trying to coach him along.  He was trying to prompt Greene to give the "correct" answer.  His question at the end - "are you mentally fit right now?" - he wanted Greene to say something like "no, my pain meds just kicked in" or something and that would have let him off the hook - "well okay, call back when you're feeling better!  we'll just erase this whole interview then!"  I think Lemon was feeling sorry for Greene, not trying to dog him.

Posted by: chemjeff at June 13, 2010 05:11 PM (Gk/wA)

183 174Speaking of soccer, teh Palin came across Presidunce Tar Balls t'other day.

That's awesome!  Where's that pic of Palin from anyway?

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 13, 2010 05:13 PM (c0A3e)

184

186  my favorite teh sarah! hypocrisy has to be boobgate

after pelosi turned herself into michael jackson they have the sack to talk about teh sarah!'s tits?

pathetic, besides, we noticed her large hooters a long time ago

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 13, 2010 05:13 PM (gg4j2)

185 Furthermore, about the felony charge, Lemon knows full well that the "no comment" defense makes Greene look guilty, THAT'S why he kept pressing him on it - not just to be a jerk, but to attempt to justify it away as all a big misunderstanding or something.  Lemon and Greene are ON THE SAME PAGE here.

Posted by: chemjeff at June 13, 2010 05:15 PM (Gk/wA)

186 we noticed her large hooters a long time ago

I've been investigating south of there, myself.

Posted by: Andi Sullivan, Uterus Expert at June 13, 2010 05:15 PM (S9AJM)

187 183 TexasJew 175: one of those German lefty towns which the Confederacy ethnically-cleansed was Comfort. It was founded by explicit atheists. A decade or so ago an atheist group tried putting up a monument for these guys; the locals there now balked, claimed it was "Satan's Rock" or some such.

Posted by: Zimriel at June 13, 2010 09:05 PM (rtzHA)

Jenny Marx's brother Edgar von Westphalen was active in the Comfort area (Kendall County) as well as in Gillespie County - the home county of LBJ, by the way.

Posted by: TexasJew at June 13, 2010 05:15 PM (OLueQ)

188

after pelosi turned herself into michael jackson they have the sack to talk about teh sarah!'s tits?




It was actually the other way around. Michael Jackson was born a good looking black man and died an old white lady.

Posted by: Blazer at June 13, 2010 05:15 PM (t72+4)

189

pathetic, besides, we noticed her large hooters a long time ago

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 13, 2010 09:13 PM (gg4j2)

My loyalty to my wife requires me to say I don't know what you are talking about.

Posted by: Editor at June 13, 2010 05:16 PM (YX6i/)

190

192  i thought you were having a tounce in helen thomas' garden

oooh, i think i threw up a little in my mouth there

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 13, 2010 05:17 PM (gg4j2)

191 190

186  my favorite teh sarah! hypocrisy has to be boobgate

after pelosi turned herself into michael jackson they have the sack to talk about teh sarah!'s tits?

pathetic, besides, we noticed her large hooters a long time ago

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 13, 2010 09:13 PM (gg4j2)

No kidding.  There's even the college photo of her with the funny shirt about her chest.

Posted by: buzzion at June 13, 2010 05:17 PM (oVQFe)

192 Greene's problem is that he doesn't yet realize that Lemon, CNN and all of the MFM are ON HIS SIDE and that he should work this advantage to his benefit like every other Dem politician does.

Posted by: chemjeff at June 13, 2010 05:17 PM (Gk/wA)

193

My loyalty to my wife requires me to say I don't know what you are talking about.

Posted by: Editor at June 13, 2010 09:16 PM (YX6i/)





Bullshit. I saw you using PGIS's cleavage as a drink holder in that moron meet-up video you posted.

Posted by: Blazer at June 13, 2010 05:18 PM (t72+4)

194 Very few of the people who actually fought in the Confederate Army owned slaves either.

Among them my ancestor.  He didn't like a buncha northeastern jerks in Congress telling him what to do.  I'm increasingly sympathetic.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 13, 2010 05:18 PM (M9BNu)

195

You musta been watching a different interview, chemjeff.

Posted by: Cowboy at June 13, 2010 05:18 PM (XYcTY)

196 The SC pubs need to get this guy a handler - put him no message and scrub him up for church Then let the fun begin

Posted by: Jean at June 13, 2010 05:18 PM (GblM6)

197 Yeah, chemjeff, I think we did watch a separate interview.  If they were on his side, they would never have invited him on as a guest.  They'd bury him and trounce on DeMint.

Posted by: Editor at June 13, 2010 05:18 PM (YX6i/)

198

195  amen, btw, has the wierd food cravings hit yet?

i'm lucky, i showed her a picture of teh sarah! a while back and t's comment was 'wow, nice tits"

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 13, 2010 05:19 PM (gg4j2)

199

pathetic, besides, we noticed her large hooters a long time ago

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 13, 2010 09:13 PM (gg4j2)

My loyalty to my wife requires me to say I don't know what you are talking about.

Don't be a beta.  I noticed.  Depends on what the meaning of the word loyalty is...

Posted by: Bill Clinton at June 13, 2010 05:19 PM (0pYSi)

200 198 Greene's problem is that he doesn't yet realize that Lemon, CNN and all of the MFM are ON HIS SIDE and that he should work this advantage to his benefit like every other Dem politician does.

Greene's damaged goods.  Not necessarily a deal-killer for dems, but Greene doesn't have the political skills required to survive as Dem.  The MFM won't help him.

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at June 13, 2010 05:20 PM (c0A3e)

201 Bullshit. I saw you using PGIS's cleavage as a drink holder in that moron meet-up video you posted.

Posted by: Blazer at June 13, 2010 09:18 PM (t72+4)

And my wife, sitting directly across the table from PGiS would have completely appreciated that.

Posted by: Editor at June 13, 2010 05:20 PM (YX6i/)

202 What is all the fuse about. They got the person they voted for. A person who has had no real job and no know history. Oh wait this is not 2008 and everyone is not talking about a guy named Barry Obama.

Posted by: dead voter at June 13, 2010 05:21 PM (KjOeq)

203 Bullshit. I saw you using PGIS's cleavage as a drink holder in that moron meet-up video you posted.

Posted by: Blazer at June 13, 2010 09:18 PM (t72+4)

And my wife, sitting directly across the table from PGiS would have completely appreciated that.

Posted by: Editor at June 13, 2010 09:20 PM (YX6i/)






It was extremely dark, hell, I had to wear night vision when I watched it.

Posted by: Blazer at June 13, 2010 05:21 PM (t72+4)

204

you know, if this idiot can get the vote to run for the fucking senate, i really have to put foward the effort to run for the state house

VOTE FOR JOE....I JUST WANT 20% CASH!!

Posted by: navycopjoe at June 13, 2010 05:21 PM (gg4j2)

205 172 buzzion ,that racism only working one way concept reminds me of the Obama justice dept . I can't believe the hoops they jumped through to avoid prosecution of those thugs intimidating voters up in the enlightened urban northeast . Those scumbags are either ignorant of the forces at play in these issues or they really want a tribal war . Give this a look . Not over yet .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at June 13, 2010 05:22 PM (NuAIL)

206 Your newest secretary of the navy.....Alvin Greene!  The guy has military experience even. 

Posted by: Dave S at June 13, 2010 05:22 PM (UvR6d)

207 arggg -- ON message (with no message)

Posted by: Jean at June 13, 2010 05:23 PM (GblM6)

208 I think it should be:  VOTE FOR JOE, OR MY WIFE WILL FACILITATE YOUR MEETING WITH BUBBA IN FEDERAL POUND ME IN THE ASS PRISON.  JUS'SAYIN' IS ALL.  JOE IN 2010.

Posted by: Editor at June 13, 2010 05:23 PM (YX6i/)

209 Naww, Editor, I think that they wanted to exculpate him.   "Psst - don't say 'no comment', instead this is where you give your side of the story and we will slant it in your favor"

Posted by: chemjeff at June 13, 2010 05:25 PM (Gk/wA)

210

Reading some of the lefty blogs is hilarious.

Many are re-hashing the old 2000 Debold / Cheney conspiracy theories, insisting that the voting machines were rigged by the Corporate Machine that secretly runs the country.

Another one claimed that this is a setup by the Dems because they want DeMint to win, as the Dems are so insufficiently "progressive" that they didn't want Greene's liberal opponent to win.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at June 13, 2010 05:25 PM (plsiE)

211 i still think it's weird that he garnered 100,000 votes without any exposure in the media or whatsoever campaigning. any thing to the computer fraud question?

Posted by: gomm at June 13, 2010 05:25 PM (7JES6)

212 He seems perfectly sensible to me. 

Posted by: Maxine Waters at June 13, 2010 05:25 PM (UvR6d)

213

I think it should be:  VOTE FOR JOE, OR MY WIFE WILL FACILITATE YOUR MEETING WITH BUBBA IN FEDERAL POUND ME IN THE ASS PRISON.  JUS'SAYIN' IS ALL.  JOE IN 2010.

Noooooooooooooo!

Posted by: Michael Bolton at June 13, 2010 05:25 PM (0pYSi)

214 Well I could be wrong, but I definitely think Lemon felt more sorry for Greene instead of wanting to badger or dog on him.

Posted by: chemjeff at June 13, 2010 05:28 PM (Gk/wA)

215

Reading some of the lefty blogs is hilarious.

Many are re-hashing the old 2000 Debold / Cheney conspiracy theories, insisting that the voting machines were rigged by the Corporate Machine that secretly runs the country.

Another one claimed that this is a setup by the Dems because they want DeMint to win, as the Dems are so insufficiently "progressive" that they didn't want Greene's liberal opponent to win.


And this is from the so-called "reality based community".

Posted by: chemjeff at June 13, 2010 05:29 PM (Gk/wA)

216

If I were running the Dem Party in South Carolina I would just try to manage the guy until November and then play the race card like HELL, trying to get him elected.

If you critizise his intelligence, you are a RACIST.

His White woman accuser and prosecuting D.A. are all RACISTS.

Just beat that drum loud and often and hope for the best.

 

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at June 13, 2010 05:30 PM (oIp16)

217 gomm there was a Corner article not long ago that pointed out that the election can be explained as the result of pure chance by the voters voting on two equally unknown candidates.

Posted by: chemjeff at June 13, 2010 05:30 PM (Gk/wA)

218 TexasJew, the monument to the German Union sympathizers who were killed is in Comfort, I believe.

Posted by: stace at June 13, 2010 05:31 PM (LYakY)

219

Naww, Editor, I think that they wanted to exculpate him.   "Psst - don't say 'no comment', instead this is where you give your side of the story and we will slant it in your favor"

The MFM is a subsidiary of the Democratic Party.  The Democratic Party wants Greene gone.  The media isn't on his side.

The old "I've been advised by my attorney not to comment on the case" line is accepted by the media all the time.  Were it a favored Dem, a "no comment" answer would've been allowed to pass.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at June 13, 2010 05:43 PM (plsiE)

220 If Greene had been pre-approved by the Dem fat cats, he'd get help and protection from the MFM. Instead Greene was a surprise. The Dem fat cats are destroying Greene because Greene represents error and lack of perfect control. They have to step lightly though because SC AA's could get quite pissed off if they don't.

Posted by: eman at June 13, 2010 05:44 PM (aj4hp)

221 How come the MFM is scrutinizing this guy so hard? Could it be that they have egg on their faces from the Barry debacle? Sure seems like to me.

Posted by: Stan25 at June 13, 2010 05:50 PM (N1Gru)

222

i still think it's weird that he garnered 100,000 votes without any exposure in the media or whatsoever campaigning.

any thing to the computer fraud question?

I doubt it.  His opponent wasn't exactly a household name, either.  Who here ever heard of his opponent Vic Rawl?

This wasn't a high-profile race; the Dems have almost no chance of beating DeMint in November .  The explanation that Greene appeared first on the ballot combined with an African-American sounding name is perfectly plausible in a race among two little-known candidates in a low-profile race.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at June 13, 2010 05:51 PM (plsiE)

223 South Carolina Rep. James Clyburn claims Green is a Republican plant.  I've heard Clyburn speak before.  Al Greene is every bit as "intelligent" as Clyburn.

There's an easy way out though.  Clinton can offer him a job as Joe Sestak's assistant working in the Whitehouse.

Posted by: little_johnny at June 13, 2010 05:57 PM (pFmeP)

224 Cynthia McKinney, Maxine Waters, Sheila Jackson Lee.  How is this guy worse?

Posted by: Buford Gooch at June 13, 2010 06:00 PM (Oq4Vk)

225 This CNN anchor would never have asked Christopher Dodd or Charlie Rangel or Jack Murtha such blunt questions about pending criminal charges. He never would have asked a Kennedy, "Are you impaired by anything right now?" He would have gladly taken "No comment" as an answer from any of the above.

Posted by: Michael Bates at June 13, 2010 06:10 PM (Oo8Y/)

226 WAIT ONE DAMN MINUTE.  I thought I took the blue pill?  What the hell is this shit?

Posted by: Trinity at June 13, 2010 06:11 PM (IHAOQ)

227 #44

Yeah, but he sure speaks in a Negro dialect, that's for sure.

Posted by: Dingy Harry at June 13, 2010 06:44 PM (2+9Yx)

228 #179

I believe Harry is drunk or stoned.  I am going with stoned, no one is that stupid.


Posted by: Kemp at June 13, 2010 06:48 PM (2+9Yx)

229 98 BTW, I think SC is an open primary state.

NO!

Posted by: Kemp at June 13, 2010 06:50 PM (2+9Yx)

230 HeatherRadish,  suggested Civil War reading: The Coming Fury by Bruce Catton.

It wasn't a just bunch of Northeastern jerks who wanted to end slavery, it was the rest of the United States. 

For what it's worth - Delaware, Kentucky, Missouri, and Maryland were slave states, but they decided not to leave the Union. Why, I do not know.

Posted by: Pelayo at June 13, 2010 07:33 PM (QLmzi)

231 If you don't vote for him, you are a racist.

Posted by: Marrion Barry at June 13, 2010 07:35 PM (7FgWm)

232 Commenter "clifton" at fivethirtyeight has the best explanation I've seen for Green's win:

The polling says that that 82 percent never heard of Rawls, 14 percent know but don't approve, 5 percent know and approve. (Obviously there's some rounding being done.)

So wouldn't you expect Greene to get 41+14 and Rawls to get 41 +5? In other words, polls predict a 55-46 victory for Greene. That's pretty much what happened.

And if you look at the poll, the 5 -14-82 favorability was among all voters. Among liberals and moderates even more were unfavorably disposed towards Rawls. So given that these people are more likely to be voting in the Democratic primary, the margin you'd expect for Greene would be slightly bigger.

Posted by: schizoid at June 13, 2010 07:42 PM (1sphz)

233 I have never experienced schadenfradue like this...   As a black conservative this is quite possibly the sweetest moment politically I shall ever know. Black Democrats voted for Alvin Greene and now they shall reap what they have sown. Own it! You have the black Forrest Gump on the Democrat ticket. Imagine the first debate- LOL!    

Posted by: theworldisnotenough at June 13, 2010 09:17 PM (CnzT1)

234

This next speech on the oil he's going to give.  This is going to be the cornered rat speech. 

Look at the way he's vainly trying to lash out at BP.  Like sending that idiot Eric Holder down there.  He's dying for anything to point to.  "Don't look over here; look over there." 

He'll take any distraction from the oil.

Maybe he could treat our friends even worse?  Maybe... something.  If he could just manufacture a conflaguration in any other area, he could say "look over there" and not feel so hurt and afraid.  And cheated.  Cheated out of his rightful due, since he's so awesome and all.

This could be a hell of a revealing look at, well, what we've known for quite some time around here.  It was a year ago we started talking about the NPD suffering man-child lashing out with a temper tantrum when he started not getting his way--the easy peasy way he's had things float his way all his life.

We have a dysfunctional brat in the White House.  He's an ugly soul, and we're not done paying dearly for electing him.

Posted by: Larry Marchant at June 13, 2010 09:26 PM (nzOge)

235 Whoops, wrong thread.

Posted by: rdbrewer at June 13, 2010 09:26 PM (nzOge)

236

I hope Alvin weathers the storm, especially since the donks haven't re-thunk being nasty to him.  I think that's an ill-advised route to take.  Makes them look even worse, adding meanness to the clumsiness.  It didn't appear they were going to be able to run him off the very first day or so after the election.  It was dumb to continue trying. 

Posted by: rdbrewer at June 13, 2010 09:43 PM (nzOge)

237

In my spare time, I like to pretend I'm a tank.

Posted by: Alvin Greene at June 13, 2010 09:45 PM (nzOge)

238 The polling says that that 82 percent never heard of Rawls, 14 percent know but don't approve, 5 percent know and approve.

From what I've read, Rawls' so-called campaign consisted of robo-calls and emails -- those must have gone to the 14 percent who don't approve.


Posted by: JBean at June 13, 2010 10:16 PM (SD1Pb)

239 172 buzzion ,that racism only working one way concept reminds me of the Obama justice dept . I can't believe the hoops they jumped through to avoid prosecution of those thugs intimidating voters up in the enlightened urban northeast .
Those scumbags are either ignorant of the forces at play in these issues or they really want  a tribal war .




Option b.

Posted by: baldilocks at June 13, 2010 10:34 PM (owBaW)

240 This guy looks fully qualified for Obama useful idiot. So what's the problem, he won didn't he.

Posted by: bill-tb at June 13, 2010 11:39 PM (y+QfZ)

241 Putting  Al Green on the ballot was a master stroke.

http://tinyurl.com/ydfle84

Posted by: Ray. at June 13, 2010 11:55 PM (e2PIf)

242 Quite the little hate filled site you have here.

Posted by: newageblues at June 14, 2010 03:20 AM (V2W7v)

243

don't you be hatin' on da Alvin, newage!!!  You sounds jes like dat uptight mama causin me all dose troubles.   She got it in for me jes like you, jes cuz you all be hatin on a poor black man for makin sumpin of hisself.

Say, wanna see my photo album?

Posted by: Alvin Greene at June 14, 2010 04:15 AM (T1boi)

244

Quite the little hate filled site you have here.

Troll! Quick, we've got a troll! Sewageblues, we've got something from Dick Cheney we're going to introduce you to...you seem like the kind of character who will like it...a lot.

Posted by: mac at June 14, 2010 04:40 AM (CzB/V)

245 Quite the little hate filled site you have here.

Posted by: newageblues at June 14, 2010 07:20 AM (V2W7v)

Yeah we like it a lot, fuckhead; it's not a public toilet of monosyllabic utterances of braindead feelings like Kos though, so I can see why you wouldn't feel comfortable.  Be sure to close the door on your way out and please continue to be a stranger in the future.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 14, 2010 05:21 AM (naZzF)

246 Personally, I think Alvin Greene must have heard "The Ballad of Gary Hart" and decided to follow Warrn Beatty's advice therein and get into the politics game, "Warren Beatty said 'Lookie, you can get a lot of nookie if you get into the politics game'".   Ten grand and Alvin gets to say "I'm running for Senate, wanna see my porn collection?"  Hey, it worked for Ted Kennedy.

Posted by: OCBill at June 14, 2010 06:13 AM (p28Ei)

247 I hope they beat this horse til it's black and blue and putrefying for all the country to see.  Behold, the democrats.

Posted by: Schlippy at June 14, 2010 08:14 AM (xm1A1)

248 In my favorite Don Lemon interview, he was interviewing this African reporter on how Obama was being treated in Africa and tried to get her to say how it was different than they treated Bush. She pointed out that actually Bush was treated better and had done a lot for Africa. Lemon looked like he had bitten into a lemon.

Posted by: kansas at June 14, 2010 09:25 AM (mka2b)

249 Posted by: kansas at June 14, 2010 01:25 PM (mka2b)




That was hilarious! 

President Bush is very much loved in Africa.  Africans believe their lying eyes and less empty stomachs rather than what they're fed by our media.

Posted by: baldilocks at June 14, 2010 10:05 AM (owBaW)

250 1.Hey, this is exactly what I¡¯m looking for :-) Unfortunately I get the following when I try to activate it:

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