December 15, 2010

The Holocausts of the Left [Fritzworth]
— Open Blogger

While I have been aware for 40 years of the hypocrisy of the Left when it comes to the horrors inflicted by leftist/collectivist regimes -- I read "The God That Failed" all the way back in 1970 -- I remain to this day dumbfounded by the Left's willingness to see Hitler and Nazism as pure evil and yet excuse or overlook the vastly greater deaths and horrors that took place under Communism via Lenin, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot. As the author of this article notes, the Left tries to excuse it as being "merely" due to mismanagement and weather.

That is a lie. It was the depths of hell, every bit as much as the extermination camps of the Nazis, and just as horrific:


In the summer of 1962, for instance, the head of the Public Security Bureau in Sichuan sent a long handwritten list of casualties to the local boss, Li Jingquan, informing him that 10.6 million people had died in his province from 1958 to 1961. In many other cases, local party committees investigated the scale of death in the immediate aftermath of the famine, leaving detailed computations of the scale of the horror.

In all, the records I studied suggest that the Great Leap Forward was responsible for at least 45 million deaths.

Between 2 and 3 million of these victims were tortured to death or summarily executed, often for the slightest infraction. People accused of not working hard enough were hung and beaten; sometimes they were bound and thrown into ponds. Punishments for the least violations included mutilation and forcing people to eat excrement.

One report dated Nov. 30, 1960, and circulated to the top leadership — most likely including Mao — tells how a man named Wang Ziyou had one of his ears chopped off, his legs tied up with iron wire and a 10-kilo stone dropped on his back before he was branded with a sizzling tool. His crime: digging up a potato.

When a boy stole a handful of grain in a Hunan village, the local boss, Xiong Dechang, forced his father to bury his son alive on the spot. The report of the investigative team sent by the provincial leadership in 1969 to interview survivors of the famine records that the man died of grief three weeks later. . . .

The term “famine” tends to support the widespread view that the deaths were largely the result of half-baked and poorly executed economic programs. But the archives show that coercion, terror and violence were the foundation of the Great Leap Forward.

Mao was sent many reports about what was happening in the countryside, some of them scribbled in longhand. He knew about the horror, but pushed for even greater extractions of food.

At a secret meeting in Shanghai on March 25, 1959, he ordered the party to procure up to one-third of all the available grain — much more than ever before. The minutes of the meeting reveal a chairman insensitive to human loss: “When there is not enough to eat people starve to death. It is better to let half of the people die so that the other half can eat their fill.”

Until the Left truly acknowledges these crimes and ranks them alongside Nazism, they are and will remain morally bankrupt and intellectually dishonest. ..fritz..


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1 His crime: digging up a potato.

Potatoes make kids fat.

Posted by: Michelle O at December 15, 2010 07:36 PM (4ucxv)

2 Whenever you make an omelet, you are going to break some eggs.

Posted by: V. Lenin at December 15, 2010 07:38 PM (c0A3e)

3 Retarded.

Posted by: JustME at December 15, 2010 07:40 PM (CyPWX)

4

There is history... and then there is what is taught in school.

One of the greatest Killers in history, is the short sighted idiots in the EPA, who banned DDT.  Millions a year die of easily prevented diseases... because people did not bother to listen to the actual science.

But you won't learn that in your US school history class...

And of course... Islam is the Religion of Peace... just ask our own Government...

Funny how people can just ignore large parts of the historical record, if they find it inconvenient to their belief system.

 

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 15, 2010 07:41 PM (AdK6a)

5 Paul Johnson covers a lot of this on a survey scale in Modern Times.  The chapter "Caliban's Kingdoms," about the rapid degradation of many of the new African nation-states in the post-colonial era, is especially poignant.

Posted by: Red Rocks Rockin' at December 15, 2010 07:41 PM (lfyq/)

6

One reason the Left identifies with Mao is that Mao was filthy.  The guy never bathed nor brushed his teeth, and he reputedly smelled like shit.  Sound like any hippies you know?

Posted by: Cicero at December 15, 2010 07:44 PM (07Etk)

7 Hey, I'm a mass killer!

Posted by: Rachel Carson at December 15, 2010 07:45 PM (07Etk)

8 While I was getting my degree in history it always seemed to me that fascism was much more aligned with leftist ideology than anything in traditional American conservatism. Of course this isn't part of the leftist/media narrative.

Posted by: Arsenal at December 15, 2010 07:48 PM (nI8cm)

9 7 Hey, I'm a mass killer!

But your main victims were those shitting, pissin' brown people, so its all good.

Posted by: Paul Ehlrich at December 15, 2010 07:49 PM (c0A3e)

10 How can the left miss such an obvious fact? Communist atrocities are worse in terms of numbers and horror. Maoist version of communism as practiced by Mao 's disciple, Pol Pot, in Cambodia wiped out nearly one third of the population (2 million out of 6 million).

Posted by: LAI at December 15, 2010 07:51 PM (5HpFI)

11 Thanks-- I sent the link to this article to a Leftist I know whose college-age son has a four-foot-tall poster of MAO on his wall. With the subject line "Wow -- 45 million dead", and the email saying "did you see this article in the TIMES?"

The leftoids will at least look at the Times. My friend is, in most respects, a nice person, but I imagine you could say the same of the Nazis back in the day. They, too, would have you over for dinner and ask kindly after your welfare: if you weren't a Jew.

Posted by: Beverly at December 15, 2010 07:51 PM (/Ojum)

12 You can thank John Stewart Service, the shitbag FSO from our state dept, for ensuring that chiang kai shek was defeated by withholding support.

That motherfucker needs to be killed again.  And again. and again... about 45 million times, he needs to die.

Posted by: tangonine at December 15, 2010 07:53 PM (x3YFz)

13 Just don't forget that Hitler was also a leftist. National SOCIALISM, remember? Neither does his racism make him "conservative." In the United States, the Democrats have ALWAYS been the party of racism. Lincoln Republican, Douglass Democrat. The old South was not conservative in the American sense. This is the land of liberty, and to be conservative in America is to value, and fight to conserve, liberty. The old South was fudal. It was conservative of European aristocratic values, not conservative in the American sense.

Posted by: Alec Rawls at December 15, 2010 07:55 PM (kTTUz)

14 All collectivist ideologies--be they communism or its close, corporatist sibling, fascism--can be sustained only with horrifying brutality once they grow past the natural point of failure. This world is no longer big enough to contain both the collectivists and those who view freedom as their birthright. Study what the Khmer Rouge did in Cambodia. How many of those piled bleached bones belonged to people who never would have believed that their neighbors could do what they did to them in the killing fields?

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 15, 2010 07:56 PM (xJVlJ)

15

Noam Chomsky to this day has not apologized for calling those exposing Pol Pot's murderous plot as faking it. He loved Pol Pot, he still loves Pol Pot, and he will die loving that man. Fucking filth.

Posted by: CAC at December 15, 2010 08:00 PM (lV4Fs)

16 The difference, here, is this:

"You cannot invade the mainland United States.
There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass."

- Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto
(Japanese Navy)


Posted by: tangonine at December 15, 2010 08:00 PM (x3YFz)

17 "Fucking filth." Exactly.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 15, 2010 08:03 PM (xJVlJ)

18 And Admiral Yamamoto was not quite right.  I have 3 rifles, a shotgun, 9 handguns and a combat tomahawk for when things get interesting.

Come get some.

Posted by: tangonine at December 15, 2010 08:05 PM (x3YFz)

19 Um, you do realize that the left knows exactly what it does and what it is going to do? They don't need to or will ever openly acknowledge what they believe and what and how they are going to get there.
Healthcare for the masses...yeah, there will be rationing and shortages but there are too many meatsacks soiling the planet and we are best at determining who should  be culled for the good of all.

Posted by: beasn at December 15, 2010 08:10 PM (aiWtu)

20 Famine is not a fact of nature, it is man-made. Droughts, and pestilence and blight does occur naturally but humans can overcome these things and avoid starvation. It doesn't become a famine until someone, usually a government of some sort stands between people and food.

PJ O'Rourke once pointed out that there has never been a famine in any country with a reasonably free press. He's right.

Posted by: Ronsonic at December 15, 2010 08:10 PM (UFJvm)

21 Jonah Goldberg may be a dipshit sometimes, but his book "Liberal Fascism" is well crafted. It made my leftard brother think a little bit, which is something.

Posted by: Luca Brasi at December 15, 2010 08:18 PM (ALjPo)

22 We meant well, and got you a couple of rockin' concerts, no? Feeding a hungry dictator made "We Are the World" all worth it.

Posted by: Bob Geldof at December 15, 2010 08:19 PM (ALjPo)

23 Google the Holodomor in the Ukraine. Mao learned from Lenin and Stalin.

If you can read the Gulag Archipelago and still think positively about communism, you have no heart.

Posted by: Michael Steele at December 15, 2010 08:20 PM (ql6KW)

24 Oh and is the Times going to give back the Pulitzer their reporter, Walter Duranty, got for writing glowing articles about the USSR in the 1930s?

Posted by: Michael Steele at December 15, 2010 08:23 PM (ql6KW)

25

One time on a visit to Half Priced books I found a hard cover copy of The Black Book of Communism for four bucks. I break it out for the holidays for libtard family members

Seriously banning of Private Property rights? Alot of people are going to die. a Three year old could tell you that.

Posted by: Zakn at December 15, 2010 08:24 PM (q/891)

26 Dumb sock!! From a month ago! (I lurk a lot.)

Posted by: ExExZonie at December 15, 2010 08:26 PM (ql6KW)

27 2 Whenever you make an omelet, you are going to break some eggs.
Posted by: V. Lenin at December 15, 2010 11:38 PM

As long as they don't break MY eggs

Posted by: Elites who think they're indispensable at December 15, 2010 08:41 PM (vdfwz)

28 A few million starved to death and a few million tortured to death is an insignificant price to pay for the nice new airport facilities I use there, and the great cell phone reception I get.

Those rotting bodies really fertilized the farms too, the lettuce I had was top rate

Posted by: Thomas Friedman at December 15, 2010 08:44 PM (vdfwz)

29 We really need to hold lefties to account. I always get sick of the "so leftist extremists were communists, right extremists were NAZIS" bullshit. The only reason Hitler is considered evil is because he failed. What's really disgustig is that there are so many fellow-travellers in government today. We really have to purge them.

Posted by: Iblis at December 15, 2010 08:47 PM (169Gg)

30 The end stage of cognitive dissonance.. First its the system that is to blame when the system changes and problems get worse  the only thing left is blame the People.

Posted by: Pat Moffitt at December 15, 2010 08:52 PM (5F3rx)

31

Until the Left truly acknowledges these crimes and ranks them alongside Nazism, they are and will remain morally bankrupt and intellectually dishonest. ..fritz..

Of course, in my experience you can't even get them to admit that Naziism is a left-wing belief system...

Posted by: RightThinker at December 15, 2010 08:53 PM (KmHbv)

32 Read "Bloodlands" by Yale Professor Snyder. He fastidiously, methodically shows the twin in evil of Hitler ... Josep Stalin. The book is newly out, it's got over 50 pages of bibliography, it's guaranteed to be the be-all, end-all work on the slaughter that took place in Europe in the 20th century. Anyone who reads it will be cured of Leftist apologies for Russia. The evil work they did in Ukraine, Poland, the Baltics, and Belarus is no longer hidden. Dark days in indeed.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at December 15, 2010 08:58 PM (nZ34l)

33 True dat. My beloved homeopathic Chinese ex pat doc is a Mao refugee. Man, the stories she tells me would curl your hair. Mao would starve out a village for complaining about how he would stop train service so he could be, er, serviced by the local women folk.

Posted by: navybrat at December 15, 2010 09:04 PM (zBUlJ)

34 Oh the left has no problem with people dying. You see it everyday as they excuse and sometimes even laud murderers and criminals. They lionize scum like Che and Mao. The only reason Hitler is often reviled by them is because they use him as some sort of right-wing boogey man. 
All I ever learned in school as a kid was that Hitler was right-wing, then I actually bothered to look up the word Nazi and found out it was shortened. Hitler was no different from the other commies. He just called it socialism.

Posted by: Grayson at December 15, 2010 09:04 PM (nJhke)

35 William Ayers has a dedication to Sirhan Sirhan in his book "Prairie Fier", for crying out loud. Didn't stop Teddy from endorsing Obama.

I agree, these commies know exactly what they are doing.

Posted by: navybrat at December 15, 2010 09:08 PM (zBUlJ)

36 "Fire" not Fier...

Posted by: navybrat at December 15, 2010 09:08 PM (zBUlJ)

37 One death is a tragedy; a million is a statistic; forty-five million+? Marxism/Communism done right. - Uncle Joe, People's Party to the Max

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at December 15, 2010 09:17 PM (swuwV)

38 the leftists that i know claim that "true" communism has never been tried, and claim that these barbaric acts of tyranny are not reflective of "true" communism. my response, "really? then why is it that every where it HAS been attempted there has been a blood bath?" as far as they are concerned, stalin, mao, pol pot, che, castro are all anomalies. unfortunately, the younger generation romanticizes the former soviet union, and thinks that socialist realism looks "kewl." i guess we will have to go through this crap again so that the young and very, very stupid can learn the hard way - the only way they learn anything, btw. i just hope that those of us who know better will be able to survive the coming leftist wave of violence, and anrcho-commie chaos. honestly, i am starting to feel like it is the 60s all over again. sheesh...didn't we do this already?

Posted by: annak at December 15, 2010 09:18 PM (2/oBD)

39 So, what's all this then about Communism? I mean, their clothes are bitchin'!

Posted by: Students for Che at December 15, 2010 09:21 PM (swuwV)

40 No purge is going to happen while what's left of civilization remains. The left will continue to spread throughout our institutions and become bolder as they go. This is just how it is because of the differences between collectivist and individualist temperaments. Collectivists never stop pushing. Individualists try to roll with it and make the mistake of projecting their own virtues on the scumbag left. The natural limit hits when the individualists finally decide that enough is enough, but that is usually too late to do any good. Besides Pinochet's Chile, I cannot think of any examples of anti-collectivists doing what needs to be done while they can.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 15, 2010 09:24 PM (xJVlJ)

41

Until the Left truly acknowledges these crimes and ranks them alongside Nazism

 

FUCK YOU FASCIST FUCK!  ALL DESPOTS AND ALL BAD GOVERNMENTS HAVE BEEN FROM THE RIGHT!  THE END!!!!

 

THE ENTIRE WORLD UNDER ONE INLIGHINTED COLLECTIVE SOCIETY WILL BE THE PERFECT COLLECTIVE!!

 

THE END!  *SPIT*

Posted by: KayInMaine at December 15, 2010 09:28 PM (bEkgb)

42 I would love to bury a lefty or three alive. That's just me though.

Posted by: Barbarian at December 15, 2010 09:28 PM (EL+OC)

43 @47 After retarded barry is sent to prison for his crimes, what do you think we are going to do to you and the people like you? Imagine the worst thing that can happen to you. Then, multiply that by a dozen.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 15, 2010 09:35 PM (xJVlJ)

44 CAPSLOCK IS REPUBLICAN AND RACIST!!

Posted by: InsaneInTheMembrane at December 15, 2010 09:37 PM (swuwV)

45 The left will never acknowledge jack shit about what they do once they have the power for the same reason they accuse normal Americans of "voting against their interests." Normal Americans who haven't hit it big yet vote for freedom in the hopes of someday hitting it big. Leftist filth will do whatever they can to hide the violent crimes of their ideological brethren like Stalin and Hitler in hopes of someday holding the reins of absolute power over people who want only to be free. The world would be so much better without them.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 15, 2010 09:47 PM (xJVlJ)

46 Here is the other distinction;
I don't mind sharing what I have with those I love.
I mind being robbed to feed people who essentially hate me.

Posted by: navybrat at December 15, 2010 09:52 PM (zBUlJ)

47 @47

Make your best move, bitch.

Posted by: Lamont Sanford at December 15, 2010 09:52 PM (Ojzt3)

48 Until the Left truly acknowledges these crimes and ranks them alongside Nazism, they are and will remain morally bankrupt and intellectually dishonest.

Then they will remain morally bankrupt and intellectually dishonest in all eternity.    The left has never, ever, ever acknowledged the failure of their ideas.  Ever.  Among their thoughts (if the term can be applied) Nixon, Palin, Thatcher, et al are far worse...though no one ever died under their rule.  But that doesn't matter.  The correctness of thought is all that matters to them. 

They are diseased beyond reclamation.  Don't expect them to acknowledge any errors from the left, ever.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 15, 2010 09:52 PM (bvfVF)

49 Great post, iknowtheleft.

And the great thing about the kibbutz example is that these were the most well-meaning of people.  There wasn't the shadowy tyrant waiting to take over behind the scenes.  Every single person wanted the best for people, with no ulterior motive.

And they still couldn't make it work.

The rules of life are simple.  Nobody's smarter than the free market and nobody can repeal human nature.

And you are right, leftism sees the world as a photograph.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 15, 2010 09:57 PM (BvBKY)

50 I tell you what. Since the POTUS started calling us "the enemy" and "hostage takers" I am spending every damn dollar I get my hands on, on firearms. I am taking that shit serious as a heart attack... These folks will usually tell you what the hell they are thinking.

Posted by: navybrat at December 15, 2010 10:07 PM (zBUlJ)

51 "Every single person wanted the best for people, with no ulterior motive." We don't know that because we *can't* know that. That, right there, is the problem with collectivism. While it's a waste of living to don the tinfoil hat and worry that everyone's out to get you, it's just as fucking retarded to bet your well-being on the kindness of strangers when you don't *have* to.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 15, 2010 10:10 PM (xJVlJ)

52 I followed that crazy person's link to her blog and read her profile to see if there are any clues to what makes a moonbat tick. She has a couple of pictures of herself posted. One shows her smiling in front of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial--I'll bet that she thinks of each engraved name of our honored dead as a marksmanship award for one of her filthy vietcong ideological brethren. The other photo shows her face more clearly and plainly explains the "single" part of her description of herself as a single mother. As for the "mother" part: unless it was IVF, I think I finally understand what "too lazy to jerk off" means.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 15, 2010 10:23 PM (xJVlJ)

53 FUCK YOU FASCIST FUCK! ALL DESPOTS AND ALL BAD GOVERNMENTS HAVE BEEN FROM THE RIGHT! THE END!!!! THE ENTIRE WORLD UNDER ONE INLIGHINTED COLLECTIVE SOCIETY WILL BE THE PERFECT COLLECTIVE!! THE END! *SPIT* Posted by: KayInMaine You think this is bad? Ask her about airline food.

Posted by: eman at December 15, 2010 10:24 PM (e2AnO)

54

The leftists in America really didn't have any problem with the Nazis, in fact they generally opposed calls for the US to get involved in the war in Europe.

Right up until the Nazis attacked the Soviet Union, then things....changed.

Posted by: gebrauchshund at December 15, 2010 10:53 PM (FLRN3)

55 60
I followed that crazy person's link to her blog and read her profile to see if there are any clues to what makes a moonbat tick.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 16, 2010 02:23 AM (xJVlJ)

Yeah, I couldn't help it I had to look too.  We may have just found the most idiotic and uninformed person on the internet.  She's definitely unleashed some weapons-grade crazy on her 2-3 readers.  Most of the comments on her blog are from her.  To be fair, Ace could probably take a lesson there.

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at December 15, 2010 11:23 PM (iyvmV)

56 "True Communism" never has been tried, if it ever was, no one would be left to talk about it.

After all, of our examples, the "purer" they are, the bloodier.

The left are a bunch of slimy liars anyway, get a few drinks in 'em and they'll be on about purges and executions all night, even the "nice" ones.

If they're quiet drunks, you may need to bring up population or the environment to get them started, but it's all there, waiting.

Posted by: Merovign, Strong on His Mountain at December 15, 2010 11:53 PM (bxiXv)

57

I checked out the link to the book mentioned, "The God that Failed", and found this money quote in one of the reviews:

 "Marxism-Leninism necessarily rests on two main axiomas[sic]: first, that the Party is inherently the most progressive force and representative of the struggle for socialism and the proletariat's role in this; and second, that the ends, as embodied in the Party, always justify the means. Together, these two rules form a deadly recipe for totalitarianism and tyranny over the mind, regardless of how well-intentioned its adherents may or may not have been."

I'd argue that MOST forms of socialism rest on the same axioms.  Of course the reviewer, sympathetic to socialism, makes the whole "M-L perverts TWUE Socialism" argument, but anyone who pays attention to the rhetoric of American progressives and the far left end of the "Liberal" spectrum finds chilling similarities in the way they think.

Posted by: B.B. at December 16, 2010 01:56 AM (jOv6/)

58 Pretty fucking grim article. Terrible sight for a sober man. What soul could idolize mao? 

Posted by: drolmorg at December 16, 2010 02:32 AM (QygYK)

59

iknowtheleft/annak. #51  Good.

Posted by: drolmorg at December 16, 2010 02:59 AM (QygYK)

60 I remain to this day dumbfounded by the Left's willingness to see Hitler and Nazism as pure evil and yet excuse or overlook the vastly greater deaths and horrors that took place under Communism via Lenin, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot.

This has probably already been said, but the reason they see Hitler and Nazis as bad is because they maintain that these were "right wing". A lie invented by them and perpetuated by the liberal news media and history professors.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 03:02 AM (e4sSD)

61 Merry Christmas, Kay in Maine.

Posted by: Brian at December 16, 2010 03:15 AM (sYrWB)

62 Leave my favorite philosopher, Mao, alone!

Posted by: Anita Dunn at December 16, 2010 03:16 AM (0ba8c)

63 Leave Mao alone!

Posted by: Anita Dunn at December 16, 2010 03:17 AM (0ba8c)

64 Vic - exactly correct, the entire dichotomy of nazis as right wing and commies as left wing is simply propaganda of the left.  Both Nazis and commies are socalists with similar motes operunudi and ideological outlook, notwithstanding the left wing media's bullshitting.

it is truly sad that line of propaganda has obtained such prominence in everyday American political discourse that low information voters simply do not know the most simple proposition that Nazis were and are socialists.

Posted by: AHFF Geoff at December 16, 2010 03:19 AM (5r0Tz)

65 American political discourse that low information voters simply do not know the most simple proposition that Nazis were and are socialists.

One wonders how many even know that the Nazi Party had "socialist" in its real name?

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 03:21 AM (e4sSD)

66 My browser gets a 404 error from Kay's blog.  Maybe the stench from her cooter has shut down whatever woebegone server hosts her illiterate rants; either that or she was responsible for breaking spellcheck.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 16, 2010 03:23 AM (kOMUP)

67

 

The left do not care about the horrors of communism.  They wish to repeat them.  Only this time, the republicans, independents and libertarians and anyone not part of the left-wing progressive communist group thingk will be offed-with for the slightest infraction. It starts with the removal of free speech.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at December 16, 2010 03:56 AM (0fzsA)

68 This thread has been a fascinating read. Well done Morons.  Will definatly buy Bloodlands

Posted by: Zakn at December 16, 2010 04:16 AM (zyaZ1)

69 But bow China keeps us happy by supplying WalMaer with cheap plastic and textiles so I mean really isn't that a lot more important than what happened 50 years ago ?

Posted by: archie bunker at December 16, 2010 04:23 AM (0YS61)

70 The natural limit hits when the individualists finally decide that enough is enough, but that is usually too late to do any good. Besides Pinochet's Chile, I cannot think of any examples of anti-collectivists doing what needs to be done while they can.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 16, 2010 01:24 AM (xJVlJ)

Exactly.  The key weakness of American conservatism is that we are the law-and-order folks - the ones holding down jobs and keeping things running, respecting the rules.  Our kind is very reluctant to use extra-legal means to achieve victory.  The unwillingness to even consider, and plan for, the need to offer effective resistance to the state is deep seeded.  Even the suggestion that local conservative militias be formed is often met with accusations of being a brown-shirt wannabe.   

We can each be armed to the teeth as individuals, with a concrete reinforced bunker for a house and a year's worth of MRE's in the basement, but without organization we can be defeated in detail.  Once the internet is shut down "for the duration of the emergency" how are right wingers going to spontaneously organize?  I doubt it could happen.  We'll be isolated and cut apart.

 

Posted by: Reactionary at December 16, 2010 04:27 AM (xUM1Q)

71 We will attrit them reactionary .
Slowly at first , then with increasing frequency . Besides , the Kay insanes of this world are a joke as a military force .Kay thinks she looks good in her nazi bondage costume but that don't make her waffen SS .

Posted by: awkward davies at December 16, 2010 04:38 AM (YCW1b)

72 The Nazis (Nationalist Socialists) were leftests too.

Posted by: Cowboy is a compliment at December 16, 2010 05:04 AM (J/aZf)

73 Posted by: archie bunker at December 16, 2010 08:23 AM (0YS61)

STFU dunce and lick the boots of your lefty masters

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 16, 2010 05:07 AM (kOMUP)

74 Agree #86

The idea that somehow the right owns the Nazis and therefore the Left should own the communists begins in error.

Nazis were lefties!  The only difference between fascists and socialists is to what degree the government should take over and control means of production.  It's a difference in degree, not kind.

Lefties own it all.

Posted by: James at December 16, 2010 05:08 AM (fC8vP)

75 The World is as Flat as a Starving Chinaman's Ass. Catchy title, I hope my publisher likes it.

Posted by: Thomas Friedman at December 16, 2010 05:12 AM (SBIko)

76

Regarding comment number 84, he (or she) is spot on. We go to work, pay out taxes, vote, raise our kids, go to church (some of us, anyway!), and are generaly very slow to anger. My fear is that we will be too slow to see the handwriting on the wall, and get run over by the unwashed masses of the left.

  Everyone I know is , to one degree or another, stockpiling weapons, ammo, food, and water. These are reasonable,educated, working men and women, who all share a collective unease. Scary times, indeed......

Posted by: jasonj at December 16, 2010 05:15 AM (2Adz1)

77 The Holocaust of the Right Unless and until the rightwing goes down on its knees and begs for forgiveness for the genocidal policies that resulted in the deaths of 90% of the indigenous peoples of the Western Hemisphere THEY WILL BE CONSIDERED MORALLY BANKRUPT !! WillyFitz

Posted by: archie bunker at December 16, 2010 05:36 AM (0YS61)

78

The lie you mention ranks up there with the lie that Naziism was a right-wing phenomenon.

(I know; already said. It's worth repeating.)

Posted by: FireHorse at December 16, 2010 05:45 AM (sWynj)

79 Look, We all know that if the left had it's way, we'd be in Re-education camps or worse.

After 30 years of controlling Academia and 80 years of controlling the Media, I'm surprised we are still a fighting minority. 

Posted by: Zakn at December 16, 2010 05:51 AM (zyaZ1)

80 Yes, but they mean well.

Posted by: profligatewaste at December 16, 2010 05:55 AM (b3rrc)

81 Slighty OT. Did you see all of those violent, Teabagging reichwingers rioting in Greece? They tried to throw us off the scent by carrying posters of Che and wearing red party t-shirts, but we know better. That's why we won't mention it on the evening news.

Posted by: MSM at December 16, 2010 05:59 AM (SBIko)

82

Did you see all of those violent, Teabagging reichwingers rioting in Greece?

Sarah Palin had them all bussed in from Texas.

Posted by: FireHorse at December 16, 2010 06:01 AM (sWynj)

83

The evolution of socialism is like post-season college basketball. You have the NIT, which was more prominent than the NCAA tournament back in the 1930s. The Final Four consisted of Hitler (national socialism, emphasizing national), Röhm (national socialism, emphasizing socialism), Trotsky (international socialism, emphasizing international) and Stalin (international socialism, emphasizing socialism). The brackets show Hitler defeating Röhm and Stalin over Trostky in the semifinals, and Stalin winning it all in the final.

Meanwhile, in the West, the KGB agents with their fellow travelers and useful idiots struggled for awhile but eventually got a dynasty going in the NCAA. Then without anyone really noticing, the NCAA emerged as more prominent than the NIT. The socialists in the West (schools and media) have become the UCLA Bruins. They've won about 45 consecutive titles and seem to be unbeatable.

(It's a flawed analogy, but it works for me.)

Posted by: FireHorse at December 16, 2010 06:20 AM (sWynj)

84

Leave my favorite philosopher, Mao, alone!

Posted by: Anita Dunn at December 16, 2010 07:16 AM (0ba8c)



Over 70 comments to get to the obvious lizard-woman sock?

You morons are slackin'.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 16, 2010 07:16 AM (T9MMr)

85 This point has probably been made above but the German National Socialist Workers Party is exactly a lefty regime. Facism was the late variant of socialism the left tried. They had to try different variants because the stupid proletariats weren't smart enough to know that communism was good for them. The brownshirts were able to intimidate and cheat enough to come into power in Germany with, what 1/3 of the vote?

Posted by: joeindc44 at December 16, 2010 07:17 AM (QxSug)

86 But yeah, the difference between the Nazi's and the holocausts of other lefty regimes is that they were more technically proficient in their killing. Pol Pot went about their massacres by guns to the back of the head whereas Eithiopia and Stalin used famine.

Posted by: joeindc44 at December 16, 2010 07:23 AM (QxSug)

87 I once asked in a forum how someone would start up a factory or machine shop, i.e. some "means of production" in their envisioned society.

One answer was by expropriating it from its private owners. Skip that whole "raising capital" notion. The kind of thinking that leads to that answer ignores the obvious followup questions of growth, stagnation, markets, and such.

Ask for details on how communists think an ideal society will work, if for nothing other than entertainment.

Posted by: fb at December 16, 2010 07:54 AM (G60Nl)

88 How did the NYT let a liar into its pages, defaming the great Mao, insulting my choice of holiday tree ornaments?

I'll have the head job of the inept prole.

Posted by: Barry Obammy at December 16, 2010 07:55 AM (gbCNS)

89

Over 70 comments to get to the obvious lizard-woman sock?

You morons are slackin'

I was surprised as well.

 

Posted by: vote for pedro at December 16, 2010 08:00 AM (0ba8c)

90 When a government grows too large or too powerful, it becomes a threat to its own people.  This is true of any nation.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 16, 2010 08:20 AM (hiFDo)

91 #104 @ 12:20 p.m. - Whoa, heavy stuff, dude.

Posted by: Brian at December 16, 2010 09:33 AM (sYrWB)

92 Morally bankrupt and intellectually dishonest?  Hey, just the folks that should running everybody's lives for them!!!!

Posted by: Buck O'Fama at December 16, 2010 10:42 AM (d4yQS)

93

Nazism and Fascism are different variants of the same socialism as Communism and just as deadly.  Mussolini was raised by a socialist father who named him after a socialist leader and worked for a socialist paper.  When socialism fell flat in Italy because Italian workers weren't interested in fighting a revolution for the whole world, Mussolini got the idea of making socialism nationalistic!  Mussolini bound all the socialist parties together like a bundle of sticks, or fascii, and proclaimed in a speech that he was a socialist, had always been a socialist, and would always be a socialist.  That's why Fascism is socialist.

Hitler liked Mussolini's innovation so much he changed his German Worker's Party, which was derived from the Communist platform, into the National Socialists.  That second word is like a clue as to what the Nazis were.

Allow me to summarize:  Fascism = Nazism = Communism.  They are all creatures of the Left which differ only in emphasis of various features.

Posted by: Tantor at December 16, 2010 11:58 AM (blNMI)

94 Tantor, indeed, I probably linked to a web article detailing the same several times. It's good knowledge to have. Also, Robert Conquest seems to have detailed this as well. Unlike the word democrat, when commies use the word socialist in their party names, they aren't kidding.

Posted by: joeindc44 at December 16, 2010 01:18 PM (QxSug)

95

Reading this is why I truly believe liberal ideas should be banned. Yes, it sounds good on the surface and it is seductive, which makes the zombies follow it, but in the real world, it creates a giant casualty list.

Some things are banned for a reason and should never be revisited. Leftist ideology should be one of them.

I figure leftist ideas account for at least 100 million direct deaths in the 20th century alone. That doesn't count the hundreds of millions who have been sacrificed on the alter of the environment (deaths by malaria) or in attempts to reduce certain races (eugenics and that sick bitch founder of Planned Parenthood Margaret Sanger who viewed abortion as a method of controlling the black population).

Posted by: Joy Behar at December 16, 2010 02:59 PM (X1Y8q)

96 Leftists are evil.

They endorse evil because they are evil.  When confronted with conscious and deliberate evil they attempt to obscure it, excuse it, and otherwise distract others from looking at it.

Why.

Because they are evil.

Once you understand this about them, everything else makes sense.


Posted by: Lee Reynolds at December 16, 2010 03:37 PM (/gY4D)

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