January 04, 2010

The looming EuroZone debt crisis
— Purple Avenger

Forecast: disaster with a 20% chance of biblical famine, locusts and pestilence, meatballs not so much.

...Germany, long considered the cornerstone of eurozone fiscal discipline, forecasts public debt at around 78 per cent of GDP this year, while in France, the second biggest eurozone economy, public debt jumped to a record 75.8 per cent in the third quarter of 2009.

Greece says its shortfall come to 120 per cent of output in 2010.

Debt is raising the cost of borrowing for many countries and adding to the weight of reimbursing obligations on future budgets.

With unemployment rising and weak growth expected in 2010, officials cannot count on increased tax revenues for much help in paying down debt, a lot of which is owed abroad.

"The (economic) crisis is weighing on the sustainability of public finances and potential growth," the EU commission has warned as economists leave open the possibility of a "double dip" recession this year...

Those green shoots are just sprouting up all over.

I need to send silly Europeans Pete Stark's(Moonbat-CA) phone number. He's previously assured us that taking on more debt increases the nation's wealth. I'm pretty sure he's got a PowerPoint presentation tucked away somewhere to prove it too.

I've resigned myself to "embracing the suck". Stimulus v2.0, Health Care, Cap and Tax. Bring the pain baby, bring it all. We're through the looking glass now, so we might as well take the ride.

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1 Ruh Roh!

Posted by: runningrn at January 04, 2010 09:22 AM (CfmlF)

2 Yeah, at some point the European Union, Paris, and Berlin bullshit will run out.  I find it hard to believe the liars over there were wiser than our liars over here.

Posted by: ParisParamus at January 04, 2010 09:24 AM (Hv1Cx)

3 I give the Euro another 3 years, tops. Then, it's toast and Europe will be left in a state of monetary disarray not seen since the 30's.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at January 04, 2010 09:24 AM (A46hP)

4 Man, it's just all skittles and beer here today.

Posted by: toby928 at January 04, 2010 09:25 AM (PD1tk)

5
Lets copy Europe!


Posted by: pre-paid sex monster at January 04, 2010 09:26 AM (0fzsA)

6 Soros made his fortune shorting the pound sterling.  Maybe I can make one shorting the euro?

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 04, 2010 09:26 AM (7zzbI)

7 Germany, long considered the cornerstone of eurozone fiscal discipline

I LOL'd

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at January 04, 2010 09:26 AM (T2MEx)

8 Oh, and First!  The other thing, with all the entitlement funding that is being added to the U.S., with Dems in charge, we will be of course, cutting military funding.  The only reason these stupid Euro-weenies have been able to "afford" their domestic spending is because they have been relying on the Evil U.S. to defend their freedom.  Wait til these losers have to protect themselves.  Of course they won't be able to.   China, Russia, and every other thug dictator from North Korea to South America will be able to roll over the West without firing a shot.  How's that hoax and chains working for you Europe?

Posted by: runningrn at January 04, 2010 09:27 AM (CfmlF)

9 #3, do you have any hard evidence that a collapse is in the offing?  I predicted failure a decade ago, but it hasn't happened yet.

Posted by: ParisParamus at January 04, 2010 09:27 AM (Hv1Cx)

10 Those debt/GDP ratios don't look too healthy.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 04, 2010 09:29 AM (7zzbI)

11 Sorry, but the posted piece is pretty p-weak evidence of a coming crash.

Posted by: ParisParamus at January 04, 2010 09:29 AM (Hv1Cx)

12 This is the perfect time to spend a shitload of money on carbon-redcuing initiatives!

Posted by: The EU at January 04, 2010 09:29 AM (wWwJR)

13

I've resigned myself to "embracing the suck". Stimulus v2.0, Health Care, Cap and Tax. Bring the pain baby, bring it all. We're through the looking glass now, so we might as well take the ride.

 

Stimulus 2.0 has absolutely no chance of passing which is why the asshole ‘n Chief is starting to bypass congress for this kind of stuff. That will not work after this fall.

Posted by: Vic at January 04, 2010 09:30 AM (QrA9E)

14 Why so GLUM?...I just LOVE a Double-Dip!

Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at January 04, 2010 09:31 AM (fh7Kf)

15 Hug me!

Posted by: The Suck at January 04, 2010 09:32 AM (SqAkN)

16 gee, gold went up $30 in a few hours after this holiday break (after dropping a good bit on end of teh year profit taking).  I don't see the gold market softening on news like this.

75% of GDP is insane.  Why would anyone buy treasury or other gov't bonds right now?  It's systemically unsustainable.


Posted by: moron # 46231 at January 04, 2010 09:33 AM (p1s9n)

17 The European's like it this way.

They look around at their beautiful cities, enjoy their 2 months of vacation, and love all the freebies they get.

Kicking the can down the road has been a European hobby for 60 years.  No one has noticed that their % of world GDP has halved in just 30 years.  Let the American's work themselves to death.  Europe is cool. 

Fun time is over, boys.  Whatcha gonna do?

Posted by: trainer at January 04, 2010 09:34 AM (K5X44)

18 Posted by: ParisParamus at January 04, 2010 01:27 PM (Hv1Cx)

I have no evidence. I'm just going on gut feeling and what I see happening as Euro-zone countries start fighting over monetary policy and breaking restrictions placed on them (as they have done from the very beginning, but on much more serious levels in the future).

I, too, predicted the demise of the Euro from when they first proposed it (it wouldn't be the first pan-European currency to bite it), but it was buoyed by weakness in the US dollar. In any event, the same issues plaguing the dollar, now, are at work with the Euro, though the Euro is much more vulnerable (especially as monetary creation lies not with any single nation that uses the currency).

Posted by: progressoverpeace at January 04, 2010 09:35 AM (A46hP)

19 14 Why so GLUM?...I just LOVE a Double-Dip!

 

That's what's so great about Precedent Obama.  You got a scoop of delicious chocolate with a yummy scoop of vanilla.

Double Dip Obama, MMMM, MMMM, MMMM!

Posted by: runningrn at January 04, 2010 09:36 AM (CfmlF)

20

We're through the looking glass now, so we might as well take the ride.

Might as well go over the cliff in fifth gear, with our hair on fire. Yeee Hawww!

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at January 04, 2010 09:36 AM (dQdrY)

21 Well you could start buying up as much RenMinBi as possible.

Posted by: The Suck at January 04, 2010 09:40 AM (SqAkN)

22 75% of GDP is insane.  Why would anyone buy treasury or other gov't bonds right now?  It's systemically unsustainable.
Posted by: moron # 46231

If so, then there are a bunch of insane countries around the world.
Sustainable is a harder nut to crack. Depends on the definition. Japan ratio has been over 130 % for over ten years. They aren't exactly growing but they haven't imploded. Likewise Russia's % is in the the single digits and the Russian economy isn't known for its stability.

Here's another fascinating list: external debt. Notice the right-most column for the % of external debt to GNP ratio. Ireland has a ratio of over 900%!

Posted by: Iskandar at January 04, 2010 09:41 AM (doEqS)

23 Smoke 'em, if you got 'em boys. BO is gonna find out that raising taxes does not mean more money for the Big G to spend.

Posted by: Mike H at January 04, 2010 09:42 AM (LdYLm)

24 I will have to live through the suck, but I'll be damned to Hell 'n' gone if I embrace it. Behold the Age of Zero.

Posted by: maddogg at January 04, 2010 09:44 AM (OlN4e)

25 Europe kinda benefitted from a 5-8 billion dollar a month trade surplus with the US. If that ends, so do they.

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at January 04, 2010 09:44 AM (dQdrY)

26

Posted by: Mallamutt at January 04, 2010 01:40 PM (V9SYy)

 

Could I interest you in a nice cold glass of delicious chocolate milk?

Posted by: Mayor Ray Nagin at January 04, 2010 09:44 AM (CfmlF)

27

Greece says its shortfall come to 120 per cent of output in 2010.

Can someone please diagram this sentence for me?  Who wrote it?  A non-English-speaker from Asia, or the ghetto?

Posted by: Yakov Smirnov at January 04, 2010 09:44 AM (e8YaH)

28 Detroit has gone global.

Posted by: maddogg at January 04, 2010 09:48 AM (OlN4e)

29 Ireland is in great shape...all they need to do is stage a phony "revolution", repudiate all that external debt, and the slate will be clean again. 

They can send my $1M financial consulting fee to Ace.  I've decided to invest heavily in blogs.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 04, 2010 09:48 AM (7zzbI)

30 Thinking of getting a little group together to walk from town to town whipping ourselves bloody and screwing the women. Has the name Flagellates been taken?

Posted by: maddogg at January 04, 2010 09:49 AM (OlN4e)

31

That's what's so great about Precedent Obama.  You got a scoop of delicious chocolate with a yummy scoop of vanilla.

Don't forget the Strawberry Red.

Obama - The Neopolitan Ice Cream of Presidents

Posted by: wiserbud at January 04, 2010 09:51 AM (IHbof)

32 If we're going down, let's go big.  If I'm going over the cliff, I want to do it in Luxury RV with a margarita, a mariachi band, and the Superbowl on the big screen.

Posted by: toby928 at January 04, 2010 09:51 AM (PD1tk)

33 According to the Bible the anti-Christ only reins for 42 months. So we got that to look forward to.

Posted by: Biblical Scollar at January 04, 2010 01:46 PM (IhHdM)

 

So we still have about 3 1/2 years to go?

Posted by: TC at January 04, 2010 09:51 AM (DYJjQ)

34 Tea Bagging Flagellates?

Posted by: Old Sailor at January 04, 2010 09:52 AM (/Ft4q)

35 I'm scared to go the ZeroHedge - are they playing Russian Roulette by webcam?

Posted by: Jean at January 04, 2010 09:53 AM (IcVGZ)

36 33 Thinking of getting a little group together to walk from town to town whipping ourselves bloody and screwing the women. Has the name Flagellates been taken?"   The Shia already do that to mark the day of Ashura. Well except for the screwing women part.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 04, 2010 09:53 AM (SqAkN)

37

The Shia already do that to mark the day of Ashura. Well except for the screwing women part.

I'm much more original than the effing Shia. Do they have women? I detect a niche...

Posted by: maddogg at January 04, 2010 09:55 AM (OlN4e)

38 Europe's problem isn't the Euro, it is the lack of little Europeans.

Posted by: Jean at January 04, 2010 09:56 AM (tJF9l)

39 It's sort of (sic) like riding the roller coaster after you've already puked.  What the heck,  your clothes are ruined already, you might as well enjoy the ride.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at January 04, 2010 09:57 AM (7Gs5S)

40 I need NPR to explain this to me.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at January 04, 2010 09:57 AM (muUqs)

41 Europe's problem isn't the Euro, it is the lack of little Europeans.

That problem is easily solved by importing more poor muslims from the Middle East.  You worry too much.

Posted by: Methos at January 04, 2010 09:58 AM (3Lcea)

42

41 Europe's problem isn't the Euro, it is the lack of little Europeans.

Obviously they need my help...

Posted by: maddogg at January 04, 2010 09:59 AM (OlN4e)

43 The Riddle of Steel compares a man's heart to a piece of raw unworked iron. The heart must be hammered by adversity and forged by suffering, purged and hardened by the fire of conflict. A man's heart can only be purified and shaped on the "anvil of despair and loss".

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at January 04, 2010 10:00 AM (dQdrY)

44

1. two wars wiped out the men of two generations...

so ther men weren't there to

a. vote conservative politicians in, as women are more liberal than men, and

b. do the jobs that made an imported, uneducated Muslim underclass necessary

result: there is no Europe anymore

Posted by: Truman North at January 04, 2010 10:00 AM (e8YaH)

45 Plus, women suck at math

Posted by: Truman North at January 04, 2010 10:00 AM (e8YaH)

46

Well hell.  The answer is obvious. 

They just need to borrow some money and payback the debt.

Sheesh!  Rookies!

 

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at January 04, 2010 10:01 AM (RkRxq)

47

According to the Bible the anti-Christ only reins for 42 months. So we got that to look forward to.

I thought it was 7 years?????

Posted by: Vic at January 04, 2010 10:01 AM (QrA9E)

48 Obviously they need my help...

They should lie back and think of Liechtenstein.

Posted by: toby928 at January 04, 2010 10:01 AM (PD1tk)

49 Greece is going bankrupt; it's a question of when, and what the rest of the EU does about it.

Posted by: Zimriel at January 04, 2010 10:03 AM (9Sbz+)

50 46 The Riddle of Steel compares a man's heart to a piece of raw unworked iron. The heart must be hammered by adversity and forged by suffering, purged and hardened by the fire of conflict. A man's heart can only be purified and shaped on the "anvil of despair and loss".   I thought the Riddle of Steel was about how you can't trust men, women, or beasts, but good steel (aka lots of ammunition) you can trust.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 04, 2010 10:03 AM (SqAkN)

51

result: there is no Europe anymore

Posted by: Truman North at January 04, 2010 02:00 PM (e8YaH)

Greece had more abortions than live births last year. It wasn't all wars.

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at January 04, 2010 10:03 AM (dQdrY)

52 The toughest, meanest, most brilliant teacher I had in college was a little tiny woman professor from the Yucatan peninsula of Mexico. She taught differential equations.She threatened to throw me out of her class at least once a week. So not all of them suck at math.

Posted by: maddogg at January 04, 2010 10:04 AM (OlN4e)

53 @ # I give the Euro another 3 years, tops. Then, it's toast and Europe will be left in a state of monetary disarray not seen since the 30's.

Well, you know what happens when Europe is in disarray...Thank God there is Israel.

Posted by: Big Daddy at January 04, 2010 10:04 AM (pOcKt)

54 I thought the Riddle of Steel was about how you can't trust men, women, or beasts, but good steel (aka lots of ammunition) you can trust.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 04, 2010 02:03 PM (SqAkN)

The sword broke.

His heart, and will, never did.

Posted by: Rodent Liberation Front at January 04, 2010 10:05 AM (dQdrY)

55

You all act as if debt is something that has to be paid back.

Have you learned nothing from Hope and Change?

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at January 04, 2010 10:06 AM (RkRxq)

56 Would you people stop whining and get in there and buy some stocks? I can't keep this thing propped up on my own forever.

Posted by: Ben Bernanke at January 04, 2010 10:06 AM (Pq3ay)

57 They should just print more money, give it away as stimulous, and then tax the rich folks more. Duh.

Posted by: Onumbnut at January 04, 2010 10:06 AM (B06rr)

58 maddogg 55, Truman is doing a combination of trolling and making a comment about Normal Distribution. Need tweezers for that hook in your lip?

Posted by: Zimriel at January 04, 2010 10:07 AM (9Sbz+)

59 Two wars, unrestrained materialism, easy divorce, free birth control, and encouraged abortion - destroyed Europe. Cultural suicide, they looked into the mirror at Auschwitz and despaired.

Posted by: Jean at January 04, 2010 10:07 AM (7K04W)

60 RLF, The riddle of steel is that though steel is strong, it is no stronger than the hand that wields it.

You're mostly right.  But it bears pointing out.  Conan's father talked about relying on steel, but he meant you can only rely on yourself in holding it. 

Posted by: moron # 13523455 at January 04, 2010 10:08 AM (p1s9n)

61

Sorry, had to get un-depressed (gawd, this shit has me making up words). Went to that you tube place and watched a video of Heart doing Crazy On You in 1976 on the Midnight Special. Remember that show? If so you're old.

For you Morons who like good rock n roll and chicks that can just flat wail (and are oh my god to die for) check it out. You'll come back ready to pounce on any poor troll who dares to show his handle.

Posted by: teej at January 04, 2010 10:09 AM (c459z)

62 Actually the sword didn't break, the guy cut off his mothers head and then took it. That was after his dad was eaten by 3 dogs. I can see your point as to the analogy however. I just thought it was his dad teaching him that everything else in life can't be counted on except good steel. If you remember Thulsa Doom said "What is good steel without the arm to wield it" in response to the Riddle of Steel.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 04, 2010 10:10 AM (SqAkN)

63

According to the Bible the anti-Christ only reins for 42 months. So we got that to look forward to.

I thought it was 7 years?????

No no no. You're thinking of the seven seals and the seven bowls of God's wrath poured out on the nations.  After which we get the New Heaven and the New Earth, so I say get pourin'.

Posted by: Joanna at January 04, 2010 10:10 AM (gJQTg)

64

63 RLF, The riddle of steel is that though steel is strong, it is no stronger than the hand that wields it.

 

Thulsa Doom said that right after he said he rejected the Riddle.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 04, 2010 10:11 AM (SqAkN)

65 I thought Conan broke the sword?

Posted by: Jean at January 04, 2010 10:11 AM (vb5IK)

66 Conan's father talked about relying on steel, but he meant you can only rely on yourself in holding it.

Damn straight.  Can't even melt the shit using FIRE!!

Europe's screwed.  Has been since they got all "Unionny".  The only thing that the Fed can do here is raise interest rates through the roof.  It's the best thing long term, and the most painful short term, and politically completely unpalatable.  So they'll just print up a shitpot more dough.

Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at January 04, 2010 10:12 AM (5aa4z)

67 Sigh.  How much scratch is Precedent Wonderful putting us in hock for their upcoming bailout?

Posted by: DngrMse at January 04, 2010 10:12 AM (lTl8a)

68 The best steel is tempered in human blood.

Posted by: toby928 at January 04, 2010 10:12 AM (PD1tk)

69 If you remember Thulsa Doom said "What is good steel without the arm to wield it" in response to the Riddle of Steel.


That was the answer to the riddle.

Why else would it be a riddle?

Posted by: moron # 2346 at January 04, 2010 10:13 AM (p1s9n)

70 Sorry but IMHO I always thought the riddle was not about any of that but how a man could count on good solid steel. Kinda how you see some people in here refer to stocking up on ammo. Men, women, beasts, governments, they can always let you down, a good weapon not so much.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 04, 2010 10:13 AM (SqAkN)

71 How about moving back to a standard based currency, except instead of gold we base it on the value of something real -- nuclear weapons.

Posted by: Jean at January 04, 2010 10:14 AM (PjevJ)

72

@50 Posted by: Vic at January 04, 2010 02:01 PM (QrA9E) -

The 70th week of Daniel Vic. A 7 year period.  It's the midway point when the anti-christ stands in the temple and, basically, claims godhood.  Can't remember the exact quote and no bible handy. And to all you brothers and sisters who have accepted the "pre-tribulation rapture theory", don't count on it.

End of thread jack but Vic asked.

Posted by: teej at January 04, 2010 10:15 AM (QdUKm)

73 Mr P,

how a man could count on good solid steel

But that's not a riddle.

The riddle would be "why can a man only count on steel?"

And the answer is not that other things are faithless, but that it is the man's own strength that makes steel strong.


Posted by: moron # 234634 at January 04, 2010 10:17 AM (p1s9n)

74

Debt that is too big to be repaid, won't be.

The question then becomes; What will be the result?  What if China and the Eastern European countries who carry Europe's debt want to be paid back?

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at January 04, 2010 10:17 AM (RkRxq)

75 Men, women, beasts, governments, they can always let you down, a good weapon not so much.

My Ruger .22 Mark III -- which is a joy to shoot, and allows even near-sighted me to hit a head-sized target at 75' with just iron sights -- jams every 100 rounds or so.

So, yeah, a weapon will let you down, too.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at January 04, 2010 10:18 AM (ZJ/un)

76

Well, the world is going bankrupt and is being run by lunatics, and there's nothing we can really do about it, so how about a funny movie trailer?:

Tucker and Dale v. Evil

Hilarious concept.  Teens go camping and run into a couple of rednecks, who aren't actually serial killers, but the kids wind up dead anyway.

Posted by: Sharkman at January 04, 2010 10:18 AM (Zj8fM)

77 I agree that the scene with Conan's father was choppy though, and the dialogue was of little help. 

Conan's moms was teh HAWT, though.  And has appeared in other Euro movies, wearing considerably less.

Posted by: s'moron at January 04, 2010 10:18 AM (p1s9n)

78

77

Eh now I have to watch the movie again. I just got my thoughts on that based on the fact Crom supposedly gave them the riddle of steel and that was how they could make it so good. Hence why Thulsa Doom came and killed them all, he wanted the best weapons. But it is a win win now I get to piss my girlfriend off by forcing her to watch it again and watch it again.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 04, 2010 10:19 AM (SqAkN)

79 @79 Damn Rob, whadda ya shootin? Have ya tried stingers in the beast?

Posted by: teej at January 04, 2010 10:19 AM (QdUKm)

80 Ruger .22 Mark III

That's why he said a "good" weapon.

Never had a "good" (i.e. flawlessly functioning) Ruger yet.


Posted by: s'moron at January 04, 2010 10:20 AM (p1s9n)

81 How about moving back to a standard based currency, except instead of gold we base it on the value of something real -- nuclear weapons.

When the gold standard was operative, the deal was you could always exchange your currency for a set mass of gold.  There are two problems with your suggestion, one of which is the inability to "make change" with a nuke.

Posted by: Methos at January 04, 2010 10:21 AM (3Lcea)

82 Who needs debt when one can just NATIONALIZE!  The third world countries do it....and hell Obama wants us there too...so we can embrace the trend to nationalize and wipe off foreign ownership, debt etc etc.

Posted by: Robert at January 04, 2010 10:21 AM (V+ylD)

83

Having a weak America out there that is not able to prop up Europe, even if the propping up is only words, is not going to help matters at all. 

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at January 04, 2010 10:22 AM (RkRxq)

84

61 maddogg 55, Truman is doing a combination of trolling and making a comment about Normal Distribution. Need tweezers for that hook in your lip?

Needle nosed pliers are used for hook removal, not tweezers. You an expert on fishing?

Posted by: maddogg at January 04, 2010 10:22 AM (OlN4e)

85 Methos: That depends entirely on how much change you're wanting.

Posted by: Joanna at January 04, 2010 10:23 AM (gJQTg)

86 Never had a "good" (i.e. flawlessly functioning) Ruger yet.

Posted by: s'moron at January 04, 2010 02:20 PM (p1s9n) -

Hmm, I own 2. A 10-22 I've had since the mid 70's And an M77 Mk II in 7mm Rem Mag.  Had only a couple of feed jams with the 10-22 and both using conical shaped hollow points. Never with a stinger.  And the M77?  Never a problem. Only had it about 9 or 10 yrs though.

Posted by: teej at January 04, 2010 10:24 AM (QdUKm)

87 @79 Damn Rob, whadda ya shootin? Have ya tried stingers in the beast?

I've used "match" grade rounds and the stuff you get in 550-round boxes at Walmart. It's just a failure-to-eject; the spent casing doesn't get clear before the bolt comes forward to feed the next round. Since it's so rare, and so easy to fix, I don't mind it. Besides, if the Mark III completely fails to fire, you can just beat the target to death with it -- damned things are made out of solid pieces of steel.


Posted by: Rob Crawford at January 04, 2010 10:24 AM (ZJ/un)

88

I was on a high school football defensive line that kinda had a Riddle of Steel "thing". Screaming in each other's faces when a guy was trying to get up 365 on the bench, punching people, the soundtrack going on the weight room boom box, that sort of juvenile shit.

Checking my memory, the exact quotes are: "The secret of steel has always carried with it a mystery. You must learn its riddle, Conan. You must learn its discipline. For no one - no one in this world can you trust. Not men, not women, not beasts. [Points to sword] This you can trust."

and

C- The riddle... of steel.

TD- Yes! You know what it is, don't you boy? Shall I tell you? It's the least I can do. Steel isn't strong, boy, flesh is stronger! Look around you. There, on the rocks; a beautiful girl. Come to me, my child... [coaxes the girl to jump to her death] That is strength, boy! That is power! What is steel compared to the hand that wields it?

Of course for us is "What is the barbell without the arm that lifts it?"

As for Europe's problems, when they have their implosion, I think I could make a bit of money running guns to an open coastline, and back-hauling paying refugees. Attractive Euro-sluts who don't want to end up a fixture in some Islamic's harem, those sort of people.

Posted by: SGT Dan at January 04, 2010 10:26 AM (GgXZc)

89

Thulsa Doom: Ah. It must have been when I was younger. There was a time, boy, when I searched for steel, when steel meant more to me than gold or jewels.
Conan: The riddle... of steel.
Thulsa Doom: Yes! You know what it is, don't you boy? Shall I tell you? It's the least I can do. Steel isn't strong, boy, flesh is stronger! Look around you. There, on the rocks; a beautiful girl. Come to me, my child...
Thulsa Doom: [coaxes the girl to jump to her death]
Thulsa Doom: That is strength, boy! That is power! What is steel compared to the hand that wields it? Look at the strength in your body, the desire in your heart, I gave you this! Such a waste. Contemplate this on the tree of woe. Crucify him!

Eh maybe you are right.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 04, 2010 10:26 AM (SqAkN)

90 #47 Truman...I've read that 80% of the German men born in 1923 were wiped out.

It had to be even worse on the Poles and Russians.

Posted by: torabora at January 04, 2010 10:26 AM (LcHM4)

91 Needle nosed pliers are used for hook removal, not tweezers. You an expert on fishing? Wait for it...

Posted by: fluffy anticipates at January 04, 2010 10:28 AM (4Kl5M)

92 #90, you have to work to screw up a bolt-action rifle. I've had enough things go wrong with Ruger semiauto pistols of all descriptions that I refuse to own one. I stick to good 1911's, Garands, M14's, and a very nice AR. And of course I have enough old weird military bolt actions to fill a zoo.

Posted by: SGT Dan at January 04, 2010 10:29 AM (GgXZc)

93 Chance of countries going into default in 2010:
Venezuela 60%
Ukraine 55%
Argentina 49%

I think the first shoe will drop in South America.

Posted by: Paladin at January 04, 2010 10:29 AM (ZO0u/)

94 Crom gave the Cimmerians the Riddle of Steel so that they would become a self-reliant, strong, proud people, not to give them the best steel.  The fact that they made excellent weapons is a natural by-product of the self-reliance.

The Riddle of Steel is that steel is strong, but is nothing compared to the hand that wields it.  It's a riddle because steel is never the point to begin with. The hand is everything.  It determines why the steel is used, who it is used upon, and how effectively it is used.  A tool itself is nothing.

The Atlantean sword Conan finds in the tomb is nothing until he finds it.  He takes that sword and topples Thulsa Doom and his entire cult, breaks his father's sword with it, then goes on to become king by his own hand.

It is the drive, character, and skill of the user of the tool that matters.




Posted by: grognard at January 04, 2010 10:29 AM (v0kvW)

95

Truman is doing a combination of trolling

 

I've been here for years.  Been waiting for someone to reveal my trollish nature!

Ah ha ha!  The shroud is off!  I'm really a lefty!

Guess I'll go back to the MTV message boards, and discuss the upcoming episodes of Jersey Shore...

Posted by: Truman North at January 04, 2010 10:29 AM (e8YaH)

96

"You an expert on fishing? "

Call me.

Posted by: Andrew Sullivan at January 04, 2010 10:30 AM (SqAkN)

97 Mr. Pink, why do I get the feeling you and I were Googling, cutting, and pasting at the exact same time there?

Posted by: SGT Dan at January 04, 2010 10:30 AM (GgXZc)

98
Never had a "good" (i.e. flawlessly functioning) Ruger yet.

Since I hit the 100-round mark during a single session at the range, and since the rest of the time it works flawlessly, I don't mind too much.

My only real complaint with the Mark III is the disassembly/reassembly. The instructions begin with: "First, locate a non-marring hammer and a wooden dowel, approx. 1/4" in diameter..."

Posted by: Rob Crawford at January 04, 2010 10:30 AM (ZJ/un)

99 #97 Argentina already has experience with this sort of thing.

Posted by: torabora at January 04, 2010 10:30 AM (LcHM4)

100 Both mini14s  and 10 22s have had FTF issues for me.  Accuracy too has been a problem in Rugers I've used.  I exempt bolt rifles from that criticism, since you have to work pretty hard to jam a bolt action.  Hell, even my BIL's .45 pistol had a few jams.  IMHO, any jam on a semi auto, unless induced as a result of operator error (limp wristing it), or just plain bad ammo, is a complete failure.  Clearing drills are fine to practice, but it should never actually happen in normal operation.

It's a bit much for me to be so picky/demanding, I know, but I have a low tolerance for extraction/feed issues.




Posted by: s'moron at January 04, 2010 10:31 AM (p1s9n)

101 You're all wrong.  The Riddle of Steele is, if I think all the big, white GOP donors are racists, then why did they put me in charge of collecting the money?

Posted by: Michael Steele at January 04, 2010 10:33 AM (e8YaH)

102 Haha probably because we were.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 04, 2010 10:33 AM (SqAkN)

103

Holy horse shit!  They're just trying to embarass us now.

http://tinyurl.com/pvlp2

They are unaccountable and they give a f--k if we know or not.

Via HA

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at January 04, 2010 10:33 AM (RkRxq)

104

 I'm scared to go the ZeroHedge - are they playing Russian Roulette by webcam?

Yes - since 2007. China keeps sending really pretty bullets.

 

Posted by: paranoid polly at January 04, 2010 10:35 AM (r7Vc3)

105 Part of me is worried, but part of me really enjoys it that Europeons are finally in danger of getting the bill for socialism... and having their card get declined at the register.


Posted by: sifty at January 04, 2010 10:37 AM (TSWpO)

106 Truman, I think he was using the general definition of troll-that you were being inflammatory just to rile folks up-rather than calling you a closet lefty.

Now, if it were gus, you might have a case.  Dude called me a libtard last week.

Posted by: Methos at January 04, 2010 10:38 AM (3Lcea)

107 So Redskins hire Shanahan by Thursday this week?

Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 04, 2010 10:39 AM (SqAkN)

108 Okay, let me be more specific: women are more likely to suck at math than men are.

Posted by: Truman North at January 04, 2010 10:39 AM (e8YaH)

109 Shanahan and Matt Millen! 

Posted by: Truman North at January 04, 2010 10:40 AM (e8YaH)

110 I was watching some of the year wrap up shows where one of the guests said that she expects the housing market to collapse about mid-year, then the recovery will begin.
This unhappy news wonÂ’t be welcome at the White House.

Posted by: Neo at January 04, 2010 10:41 AM (tE8FB)

111 Let them eat locusts!

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at January 04, 2010 10:41 AM (F09Uo)

112

112 So Redskins hire Shanahan by Thursday this week?

I hear Mike Leach is looking for a job...

Posted by: maddogg at January 04, 2010 10:41 AM (OlN4e)

113

118

You obviously haven't seen one of her movies. I think she pwned you by her 19th birthday.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 04, 2010 10:43 AM (SqAkN)

114 So Redskins hire Shanahan by Thursday this week?

He should hold out for Dallas.  Lord love him, the only way Romo is going to the Superbowl is if he buys a ticket.

Posted by: toby928: weeping dallas fan at January 04, 2010 10:44 AM (PD1tk)

115 I have been embracing the suck for years and years and I still look fabulous.

Posted by: Nina Hartley at January 04, 2010 10:45 AM (TSWpO)

116

He should hold out for Dallas.  Lord love him, the only way Romo is going to the Superbowl is if he buys a ticket."

 

Yeah what new and exciting way will he find to dissapoint you this year. Muff another hold for an easy field goal? Throw a crucial pick late in the game? Sorry but no way they are going to beat Philly 3 times in a row this year, even at home, and Tony Homo is due for another choke game.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 04, 2010 10:46 AM (SqAkN)

117

@96 Posted by: SGT Dan at January 04, 2010 02:29 PM (GgXZc) -

Thanks sarge, and feel free to put me to hardware knowledge any time. BTW - my semi-auto pistol is a Colt M1991A1 and I love it.

Posted by: teej at January 04, 2010 10:46 AM (c459z)

118 Barney Franks' ‘‘The Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act of 2009’’....

it [H.R. 4173] supports the biggest banks. It authorizes Federal Reserve banks to provide as much as $4 trillion in emergency funding the next time Wall Street crashes. So much for “no-more-bailouts” talk. That is more than twice what the Fed pumped into markets this time around. The size of the fund makes the bribes in the Senate’s health-care bill look minuscule.

Posted by: Neo at January 04, 2010 10:47 AM (tE8FB)

119

re: Sucking

Hey, don't forget about me!

Posted by: Monica Lewinsky at January 04, 2010 10:49 AM (Pq3ay)

120 Actually, I never "got" the Jenna Jameson thing.  She looks brittle and used-up, and always did.

Posted by: Truman North at January 04, 2010 10:53 AM (e8YaH)

121 Jenna somebody? Marilyn who? Who are these women you folks are speaking of?

Posted by: teej at January 04, 2010 10:54 AM (QdUKm)

122 There seems to be an untoward expertise on porn starlets here.

Posted by: maddogg at January 04, 2010 10:57 AM (OlN4e)

123

Oooohh.  Nevermind.

Shhhh. Think the moronettes bought my act?

Posted by: teej at January 04, 2010 10:59 AM (QdUKm)

124 There seems to be an untoward expertise on porn starlets here.

Our right wrists are unusually powerful as well.

Posted by: toby928: weeping dallas fan at January 04, 2010 10:59 AM (PD1tk)

125

126 Sorry, girls, but when it comes to embracing the suck, I am the undisputed champion of the world.

LOL.

Posted by: Linda Lovelace at January 04, 2010 10:59 AM (r7Vc3)

126

Oooohh.  Nevermind.

Shhhh. Think the moronettes bought my act?

Posted by: teej at January 04, 2010 02:59 PM (QdUKm)"

 

You mean all 5 of them?

I kid I kid.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 04, 2010 11:00 AM (SqAkN)

127 Our right wrists are unusually powerful as well.

Posted by: toby928: weeping dallas fan at January 04, 2010 02:59 PM (PD1tk) -

Hush, I've got runningrn convinced I hurt my shoulder playing baseball.

Posted by: teej at January 04, 2010 11:02 AM (QdUKm)

128 I think riding it out is a great philosophy here: its out of our control, like weather and old age. No amount of yelling or swearing or complaining will change it a bit. We'll just have to watch it happen, and work for the future.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 04, 2010 11:02 AM (PQY7w)

129 Don't kid yourself, teej.  And now you've insulted our intelligence, too.

Posted by: moronettes at January 04, 2010 11:02 AM (3Lcea)

130 38 I'm scared to go the ZeroHedge - are they playing Russian Roulette by webcam?

Eek. I got sucked in over there earlier and got the shit scared outta me.  The commenters are actively planning for survival.  As in small farm animals, gardening, burying gold in the back yard, cabins in the woods.  Water/food hoarding.  Guns, ammo, and Gold.

What makes it worse (better?)  is their (mostly) oh so reasoned rationale.



Posted by: Derak at January 04, 2010 11:03 AM (sPWq2)

131

I've resigned myself to "embracing the suck". Stimulus v2.0, Health Care, Cap and Tax. Bring the pain baby, bring it all. We're through the looking glass now, so we might as well take the ride.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at 01:20 PM

  Just wait till the Congress finish with the 'immigration reform' this year.  It will be rush, rush, rush, no time to waste, then straight partyline vote to pass.   And voila, we will truly be a third rate country

Posted by: always right at January 04, 2010 11:04 AM (0AClR)

132 and buy ammo

Posted by: Jean at January 04, 2010 11:04 AM (vb5IK)

133

"We'll just have to watch it happen, and work for the future."

 

and blame Bush.

Posted by: Leftwing asshole with a Bush fixation at January 04, 2010 11:04 AM (SqAkN)

134 Oops!

Posted by: teej at January 04, 2010 11:04 AM (QdUKm)

135 Derak, are we talking about the same ZeroHedge.com?

Posted by: Jean at January 04, 2010 11:06 AM (Z7GrA)

136 139 Don't kid yourself, teej.  And now you've insulted our intelligence, too.

Posted by: moronettes at January 04, 2010 03:02 PM (3Lcea) -

Dog gone it Methos, don't scare me like that.

Posted by: teej at January 04, 2010 11:07 AM (QdUKm)

137 The moronettes like that our hands are Jergin's soft.

Posted by: toby928: weeping dallas fan at January 04, 2010 11:07 AM (PD1tk)

138

Eek. I got sucked in over there earlier and got the shit scared outta me.  The commenters are actively planning for survival.  As in small farm animals, gardening, burying gold in the back yard, cabins in the woods.  Water/food hoarding.  Guns, ammo, and Gold.

Yeah, so? Me too.

Posted by: maddogg at January 04, 2010 11:07 AM (OlN4e)

139 Derak, if the traders and banker types over at ZeroHedge are talking about cabins and spelt wheat recipes then I would be scared.

Posted by: Jean at January 04, 2010 11:09 AM (7K04W)

140

Yeah, so? Me too.

Posted by: maddogg at January 04, 2010 03:07 PM (OlN4e) -

Guess he was never a boy scout maddogg.

Posted by: teej at January 04, 2010 11:10 AM (QdUKm)

141 Are they trading long-pig recipes yet?

Posted by: toby928: weeping dallas fan at January 04, 2010 11:10 AM (PD1tk)

142

139 Don't kid yourself, teej.  And now you've insulted our intelligence, too.

And would it kill you to come watch some of this with us, and try it out later, and dammit, make us a sandwich?

Posted by: Truman North at January 04, 2010 11:11 AM (e8YaH)

143 We may be damned well in debt up to our asprin bottles, but by God we're achieving social justice. Or something.

Posted by: pendejo grande at January 04, 2010 11:12 AM (t1aMc)

144

I got sucked in over there earlier and got the shit scared outta me.  The commenters are actively planning for survival.  As in small farm animals, gardening, burying gold in the back yard, cabins in the woods.  Water/food hoarding.  Guns, ammo, and Gold.

All of that does no good at all if you live near a large urban area unless you can spot the crash coming several days in advance and get out quick.

Read the book "Dies The Fire" by S.M. Stirling.

BTW, I like the new saying; lead is the new gold. You can't eat gold.

Posted by: Vic at January 04, 2010 11:12 AM (QrA9E)

145 @152 If they won't Tru', then they ain't worth havin'.

Posted by: teej at January 04, 2010 11:13 AM (QdUKm)

146

Even if we go into a decade long depression I really can't see the value in moving out into the woods and trying to live off the land like some 1800s settler.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 04, 2010 11:13 AM (SqAkN)

147

Methos 111, thanks, that's what I meant. I'm a stickler for definitions.

BTW, I didn't call Truman a troll; I said he was acting like one in that one post. Besides I don't even think there's anything wrong with tossing in the hook now and then. (Although one shouldn't make a habit of it.)

As for tweezers versus pliers, I don't know anything about fishing, so I just guessed that a fisherman would need some kind of tool to pull out a hook. So, now I know pliers are used, so thanks.

Posted by: Zimriel at January 04, 2010 11:14 AM (9Sbz+)

148

BTW, I like the new saying; lead is the new gold. You can't eat gold. -

It's pretty close to lead on the table of elements though. Guess if ya had to you could melt it down and cast bullets out of it.

Posted by: teej at January 04, 2010 11:15 AM (QdUKm)

149

Zimriel

No problem. Sorry for seeming testy.

Posted by: maddogg at January 04, 2010 11:17 AM (OlN4e)

150

Even if we go into a decade long depression I really can't see the value in moving out into the woods and trying to live off the land like some 1800s settler.

1800's settlers ate. Thats an advantage in my book.

Posted by: maddogg at January 04, 2010 11:18 AM (OlN4e)

151

I think a gold bullet would melt in the barrel.

Posted by: Zimriel at January 04, 2010 11:18 AM (9Sbz+)

152

Eek. I got sucked in over there earlier and got the shit scared outta me.  The commenters are actively planning for survival.  As in small farm animals, gardening, burying gold in the back yard, cabins in the woods.  Water/food hoarding.  Guns, ammo, and Gold.

Spent some time this weekend looking at rural property for sale. Found a candidate; just need to convince myself that: a) I can afford it, b) I can take the hit to my spending that buying it represents, c) I can get something useful out of it regardless.


Read the book "Dies The Fire" by S.M. Stirling.

Dude, we have an Event, and all bets are off.




Posted by: Rob Crawford at January 04, 2010 11:18 AM (ZJ/un)

153 I really can't see the value in moving out into the woods and trying to live off the land like some 1800s settler


When you live in a failed city-state run by criminal gangs and raiders, you'll start to understand why. 

Seriously, it is VERY unlikely that societal collapse will occur.  However, if it does, it will be BAD BAD BAD.  Such a monumental downside demands some prudent hedging (as the traders at zero hedge are wont to do) to teh extent of one's financial ability.  I have a good bit of guns and ammo, getting some long shelf-life food.  I'd like property out of the urban area, but can't afford it.  It's not that I'm a wild eyed survivalist, but if there's a general collapse, any urban area will be quickly overrun by crime. 

Think LA riots.  For 2 months. 

Posted by: s'moron at January 04, 2010 11:20 AM (p1s9n)

154

161 1800's settlers ate. Thats an advantage in my book.

Yum, yum!

Posted by: The Donner Party at January 04, 2010 11:20 AM (9Sbz+)

155

Read the book "Dies The Fire" by S.M. Stirling.

Yeah, Vic, definitely worth the read. I just wish Stirling would hurry and finish the series. In the latest I kept thinking they were getting close but he left it hanging, again. Of course, I'll buy the next one, too. And just about anything else he writes (he's a bit of a loon, though).

Posted by: Tommy Gunnar at January 04, 2010 11:21 AM (rQTdM)

156

I think a gold bullet would melt in the barrel.

No, gold would make a usable bullet. The melting point of pure lead is only around 650 deg. F. You probably couldn't push it much faster than 1600 fps without stripping in the rifling, though.

Posted by: maddogg at January 04, 2010 11:21 AM (OlN4e)

157

Even if we go into a decade long depression I really can't see the value in moving out into the woods and trying to live off the land like some 1800s settler.

A decade long depression would not be the driver to head for the woods and hills. Under that scenario gold would be good to have. Heading for the hills is when the entire veneer of society collapses.

The residents of the U.S. were much better prepared for the depression and hard times than the people of today. What I would expect to see is total collapse of all the big cities. When their city governments began to fail and the dolists didn't get their monthly stipend they would burn the city to the ground and commence rioting that would make the troubles of the 60s look tame.  

Posted by: Vic at January 04, 2010 11:21 AM (QrA9E)

158
Sorry for seeming testy.

Can we go a week without an apology here?

Posted by: Posted by: Huge, Quickly at January 04, 2010 11:22 AM (jVldi)

159

Melting pt. of lead approx.  328o C.  Melting point of gold approx. 1065o C.

Could make the gold kind of hard to melt to make bulletts in the first place I guess.

Posted by: teej at January 04, 2010 11:22 AM (QdUKm)

160 teej, heh

Zimriel, I only went fishing once and we just cut the hook and pushed it on through after my mishap.  Of course it would depend on where the hook attached itself.

Posted by: Methos at January 04, 2010 11:23 AM (3Lcea)

161

Thanks teej.

i'm getting a real edumacashun today

Posted by: Zimriel at January 04, 2010 11:23 AM (9Sbz+)

162 Mr. Pink, while I agree - I still have a piece of land with the ability to heat it and power the DVD player for the kids even if all of my investments are worthless and my job dries up.

Posted by: Jean at January 04, 2010 11:23 AM (vb5IK)

163

Move to the burbs bro. Cheaper, less crime, and people are not as big of pricks. If there were LA style riots in DC I am pretty sure they wouldn't drive 15 miles down 66 to get me.

BTW can this post apocolypse talk involve zombies?

Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 04, 2010 11:23 AM (SqAkN)

164

I'll buy the next one, too. And just about anything else he writes (he's a bit of a loon, though).

LOL, totally agree!

Posted by: Vic at January 04, 2010 11:23 AM (QrA9E)

165
Speaking of ammo...

finally watched all of Band of Brothers. Great mini-series. I hear they're making a Pacific counterpart to Europe series called, um, Pacific.

Posted by: Posted by: Huge, Quickly at January 04, 2010 11:24 AM (jVldi)

166 How did we all of a sudden get off the subject of porn?

Posted by: Truman North at January 04, 2010 11:25 AM (e8YaH)

167 Mr. Pink, just don't drive around the older parts of Manassas.

Posted by: Jean at January 04, 2010 11:28 AM (1bQOq)

168 If there were LA style riots in DC I am pretty sure they wouldn't drive 15 miles down 66 to get me.

Well, they'd probably have to walk at that point...

Posted by: Methos at January 04, 2010 11:28 AM (3Lcea)

169 I live in teh burbs (assuming you're writing to me, Mr P), and an enclave at that.  Still, where do you think the criminals will come for looting and robbery?

Poorly defended, soft, unarmed people.  That is the burbs (mostly).  A few crazy gun nuts keep the rest of the block safe, since the crims don't know who to target.  Hence the "magazine salesmen" (invariably urban youths) who knock on my door during holidays.

Posted by: s'moron at January 04, 2010 11:28 AM (p1s9n)

170

Best book I've read on the war in the Pacific was "With The Old Breed" with forward by Victor Davis Hanson. By E.B. Sledge.

 

Posted by: maddogg at January 04, 2010 11:28 AM (OlN4e)

171 145- yep. Tyler Durden's site.  His main post today is on the the SEC removing one of the pillars that makes investing in MM brokered fund safe- that of instant liquidity. Seems they are going to remove that rule to prevent runs on those funds, and extrapolate that to the banking system, thus effectively outlawing bank runs. Need all your money today? Not possible.  So sorry.
That was my short take away from the post.  It was a long one.

The comments were folks making preparations to survive the inevitable meltdown., just what I've been planning, but I thought I was just a lone tin foil hat nutcase.  Those folks seem far  more connected and reasoned than li'l ole me. And if they're actively pursuing, uh, survival tactics....................uh.....

Posted by: Derak at January 04, 2010 11:29 AM (sPWq2)

172 176 How did we all of a sudden get off the subject of porn?

Posted by: Truman North at January 04, 2010 03:25 PM (e8YaH) -

I was hoping for a turn towards eschatology.

 

Posted by: teej at January 04, 2010 11:29 AM (c459z)

173

Poorly defended, soft, unarmed people.  That is the burbs (mostly).

Not the burbs here in SC.

Posted by: Vic at January 04, 2010 11:30 AM (QrA9E)

174 Mr. Pink, you do realize that once one heads into the borderlands of the internet zombie has become a convenient replacement for now banned racist code words.

Posted by: Jean at January 04, 2010 11:31 AM (PjevJ)

175 eschat porn!

Posted by: Zimriel at January 04, 2010 11:31 AM (9Sbz+)

176 if the traders and banker types over at ZeroHedge are talking about cabins and spelt wheat recipes then I would be scared.


They WERE talking about getting portable mills for milling your own wheat so you could make your own bread, making your own beer and using the left over grain for a really tasty recipe.    I am not kidding.  Funny you should make that comment, Jean.  And there was not one whit of humor to be detected.  Dead serious.

Posted by: Derak at January 04, 2010 11:33 AM (sPWq2)

177

177 Mr. Pink, just don't drive around the older parts of Manassas."

Hhahahahah F no. I wouldn't go there if you paid me and I had a freakin translator which is generally needed nowdays. I drove thru there once in 2001 and witnessed a guy getting jumped in the middle of the street in Georgetown South in full view of two cops who just sat and watched. Count me out. That and the women their have 3 teeth and there is 75% chance they have a baby at home after the age of 16.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 04, 2010 11:33 AM (SqAkN)

178 Derak, I watch his site for the comparisons of actual payroll tax revenue versus the "unemployment rate" estimate. The comments usually get to arcane for me to follow.

Posted by: Jean at January 04, 2010 11:33 AM (mtAmx)

179 unintended consequences is an awesome book for the velostat/tinfoil crowd to use as a rundown of survival needs in a total collapse.  Hey SGT Dan, this is what I was talking about earlier.  Prepping moneyed professionals for this. 

Weapons and ammo, communication equipment, food, water, shelter, knowledge of tactics, and a plan. 

location is secondary, but living in BFE makes it more defensible.

Posted by: s'moron at January 04, 2010 11:33 AM (p1s9n)

180

Not the burbs here in SC.

Posted by: Vic at January 04, 2010 03:30 PM (QrA9E) -

Yeah, imagine the reception here in small town Ks. too.

ps for pixy - these server errors every time I post are getting kind of old.

Posted by: teej at January 04, 2010 11:34 AM (c459z)

181 zombie has become a convenient replacement for now banned racist code words


That is an interesting thing to know.  Thank you for finding that out so I don't have to learn it somewhere else.

Posted by: s'moron at January 04, 2010 11:35 AM (p1s9n)

182

Also I thought about buying a house there last year, in Manassas. Well I pull up out front of the house, nice brick townhouse, 3 levels, hard wood floors and with about 350 more sq. footage as the one I ended up buying. Well what should I see right by the realtors sign spray painted on the front of the brick townhouse in huge red letters?

Why your friendly neighborhood MS-13. Didn't help that it was around 1 pm on a Tuesday and there were several groups of up to 10 grown men just loitering around everywhere.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 04, 2010 11:36 AM (SqAkN)

183

This is not hard to figure out.  We're in deep shit, because liberals hate children.

All of the social welfare plans were written 60 years ago and assumed that the growth rate at that time would continue.

Liberals stopped having kids and da huh. The formula didn't work.

So who the fuck is going to buy my big old house?  WhoTF is going to pay my SS?

Look at Japan, no children, no growth.

The moral here?

You young fuckers need to start fucking and having kids. 

My retirement is counting on you all!

Posted by: Kemp at January 04, 2010 11:36 AM (2+9Yx)

184 We have more guns. Let'em rot.

Posted by: Barbarian at January 04, 2010 11:37 AM (EL+OC)

185

194 We have more guns. Let'em rot.

GOOD POINT. Unless Barry takes them.

Posted by: Kemp at January 04, 2010 11:38 AM (2+9Yx)

186 We have more guns. Let'em rot.

GOOD POINT. Unless Barry takes them.

When that begins to happen you know the collapse is imminent.

Posted by: Vic at January 04, 2010 11:40 AM (QrA9E)

187 I feel inadequate with only about 1000 rounds of various stuff. But then I am at least 10 miles from Patterson.

Posted by: NJConservative at January 04, 2010 11:41 AM (/Ywwg)

188 Mr. Pink, my fear is an event in Iran that spikes oil prices and the Fed has no slack left to stop inflation. Is my money better spent buying acreage which I lease back to farmers or holding in securities that are going to get devoured by inflation?

Posted by: Jean at January 04, 2010 11:42 AM (PjevJ)

189 Kemp, working on 4&5 right now. How big is your house?

Posted by: Jean at January 04, 2010 11:43 AM (tJF9l)

190

GOOD POINT. Unless Barry takes them.

From my cold dead hands. Give up your guns, give up your life.

Posted by: maddogg at January 04, 2010 11:44 AM (OlN4e)

191 188- Well then you saw his speculation that the govt unemployment numbers, as reported by treasury, is perhaps lowballed by 32%.  I didn't read further. My eyes were crossed after reading the main post and comments.  Man, who are those guys at ZH? 

Posted by: Derak at January 04, 2010 11:44 AM (sPWq2)

192 191 zombie has become a convenient replacement for now banned racist code words

I use the term Canadian.

See all the people standing in that welfare line, what a bunch of Canadians.


Posted by: Barbarian at January 04, 2010 11:44 AM (EL+OC)

193 I'm in the burbs.  More than enough hardware on hand to set myself up as the local Lord Homongous.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at January 04, 2010 11:45 AM (7zzbI)

194

Hey, son just pissed away my "year 2000", rounds in my ar-15, now a have to find some more, any ideas?

Need Russian rounds, 39's

 

Posted by: Kemp at January 04, 2010 11:45 AM (2+9Yx)

195 You know, every time I go on a fishing trip, I accidentally drop one of my guns into the deepest part of a remote lake.  It never fails.  As far as the government knows, I've lost five, six good guns over the last couple summers.  Lots of boxes of ammo, too.

Posted by: Truman North at January 04, 2010 11:46 AM (e8YaH)

196

While Amanda Simpson is clearly one of the first transgender presidential appointees [Transportation], Democratic officials say theyÂ’re unsure if she is the very first one [DNC churning the rumor machine: who before]. Simpson hopes that HUNDREDS more transgenders will gain government appointments.

According to the New York Post, the national average unemployed youth (who voted for Obama) is at 52.2% now. Graduating with the Obama sex ed program, going transgender is another way ObamaÂ’s crew expects "green" college grads to fit in for a "good job" while “created or saved” gets a twist applicable to body organs as well as the demand for an ObamaCare specialty. 


Posted by: maverick muse at January 04, 2010 11:47 AM (+CLh/)

197 Truman, here in Virginia we have this thing called a gunshow - tis great.

Posted by: Jean at January 04, 2010 11:48 AM (7K04W)

198 48 "Plus, women suck at math" Bite your tongue, sucka.

Posted by: Danica McKellar, aka Winnie Cooper (of The Wonder Years fame) at January 04, 2010 11:49 AM (LeFbD)

199 eschat porn!

See Babylon, Whore of

Posted by: Methos at January 04, 2010 11:49 AM (3Lcea)

200 5 Lets copy Europe!


Yep, the leftist's cure-all like hell every time.

Posted by: maverick muse at January 04, 2010 11:51 AM (+CLh/)

201 The reason the left fails every time is that they fail every time. Then when they fail, they look for the best excuses, then try the same failed policies again. They are truly insane.

Posted by: maddogg at January 04, 2010 11:53 AM (OlN4e)

202

199 Kemp, working on 4&5 right now. How big is your house?

Well, actually I have a compoud on an acre with four buildings, a fence around it all, a pool and way to many damn A/C's and heaters. 

WTF am I to do with all this shit? 18 phones, 2 land lines, 7 cars, and two sons in grad school.

I was hoping some damn rich banker would buy this stuff, but Wachovia went broke and BA isn't doing shit either.

I'll be stuck here with all this shit for awhile.

Could be worse, one of my kids might have got to Chapel Hill. Thank God they can read.

Did I mention it's cold as shit in Charlotte?

Posted by: Kemp at January 04, 2010 11:55 AM (2+9Yx)

203 Hey jean where in VA you live?

Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 04, 2010 11:55 AM (SqAkN)

204

207 Truman, here in Virginia we have this thing called a gunshow - tis great.

I know.  I live in Massachusetts.  To get a carry permit, you need a note from the Sherriff.  I kid you not!

208 48 "Plus, women suck at math" Bite your tongue, sucka.

Posted by: Danica McKellar, aka Winnie Cooper (of The Wonder Years fame) at January 04, 2010 03:49 PM (LeFbD)

Ah, the stuff dreams are made of, I loved that broad since I first set eyes on her 23 years ago.  Biting, sucking, BUNK

Posted by: Truman North at January 04, 2010 11:56 AM (e8YaH)

205

Well then you saw his speculation that the govt unemployment numbers, as reported by treasury, is perhaps lowballed by 32%. 

Most economists that I have seen say the true number is around 17%. The real way to find out is to take the decrease in "employment" since the government tinkers with the other numbers.

 

Posted by: Vic at January 04, 2010 12:00 PM (QrA9E)

206  since the government tinkers with the other numbers. 

Posted by: Vic at January 04, 2010 04:00 PM (QrA9E) -

No way. good ol' Uncle Sam would never do anything like that.

Posted by: Rocky Rockford at January 04, 2010 12:03 PM (c459z)

207

My mom's been buying gold for the past 10 years -- whenever the price was decent and she could afford to.  Everybody (including investment/accountant types) laughed at her -- gold was a dumb thing to buy, what a stupid little old lady.  She's been trying to buy some more land back after being forced into the sale of her farm, but that opportunity hasn't come to pass for her (she was looking at around 500 acres -- price hasn't gone where it needs to be yet, and she's running out of time lifespan wise, bummer that).

Somehow, if Mom manages to survive the death panels (which odds are not good that she will), I can see her wearing a chain mail dress -- who's the chief of Bartertown?

Posted by: unknown jane at January 04, 2010 12:07 PM (5/yRG)

208 Mr. Pink, Arlington for work; the redoubt is southwest of Harrisonburg.

Posted by: Jean at January 04, 2010 12:10 PM (pIKTP)

209 Damn that is a drive.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at January 04, 2010 12:13 PM (SqAkN)

210

#219

no shit!

Posted by: Kemp at January 04, 2010 12:15 PM (2+9Yx)

211 I hate the reporting of the "unemployment rate" - it is impossible to measure correctly. However, the week-to-week payroll tax receipts (or estimates provided by payroll firms) is a real number that reflects actual work being paid for.

Posted by: Jean at January 04, 2010 12:19 PM (IcVGZ)

212 Worldwide chaos works to the advantage of our Socialist In Chief.. let it all fail and he will resurrect a new world order out of the ashes.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 04, 2010 12:34 PM (f9c2L)

213 No, I have a house in NOVA and land/cabin in Blue Ridge Mnt. I drag the kids out there at least once a month. I know people who commute in from Harrisonburg, nuts.

Posted by: Jean at January 04, 2010 12:38 PM (1bQOq)

214 Things will turn ugly.  Go ahead, buy your gold.  I'm buying ammo.

Posted by: GarandFan at January 04, 2010 01:16 PM (ZQBnQ)

215

embrace the suck is right...shove every nonsense program these wanna be facisti want... make the people suffer so much that we break this police state up into 5 sections and the northeast that should be carpet bombed the day after liberation... force the ass pain on everybody so the we all walk away from the national socialist's debt and bring it all down...the devil's triangle of DC-NY-CHE'CAGO must be turned to ash... its the same axis of evil that forced civil war in 1860 and will do it again-different results this time and take no prisoners they are contagion and must be neutralized...

long live the free republics of north america

ps-- the worlds greatest blogger must have something stuck in his muscle-glutes or maybe he just does't like the fact that his boytoy strikes the pose of L'DUCE all the time....

pss- anybody hear about that trig thing...could be trouble for palin,going around making babies and taking care of her family... the nerve

 

Posted by: aryi-ann molitsha at January 04, 2010 01:20 PM (91IME)

216

#225

I think you typed your URL wrong.

Stormfront's down the road about 20 miles and to the left.

Posted by: s'moron at January 04, 2010 01:40 PM (p1s9n)

217

Poorly defended, soft, unarmed people. That is the burbs (mostly).

Not the burbs here in SC.

Even here in Northern California the burbs are bursting at the seams with guns.  You can't legally carry 'em around, but if things start to get dicey people looking for easy prey are gonna see just what an armed populace looks like.

Posted by: Ace's liver at January 04, 2010 01:46 PM (XIXhw)

218 it posts the same weird shit as chaka luther X.

Set phasers on ignore, lieutenant.

Posted by: toby928: Lord of the run-on sentence. at January 04, 2010 01:46 PM (PD1tk)

219

224 -- who says that hasn't been bought as well?  She's sitting on an arsenal. 

I mention this, because Mom's lived through the Depression, a world war, a cold war, and Carter -- she was calling this some time back, and everybody called her a fool and nutso, and laughed in her face.  Some folks seem to have forgot the valuable lesson of listening to your elders.

Posted by: unknown jane at January 04, 2010 02:01 PM (5/yRG)

220 #229  I constantly stock up on canned food.   I remember what my dad said, because he lived through the Depression. 

By the way,  I got my White Flower Farm catalog in the mail a few days ago.  For the first time since I started receiving it,  the first 15 pages or so are devoted to vegetables, rather than pricey things like wisteria trees.

Posted by: Miss Marple at January 04, 2010 02:35 PM (4DwVn)

221

wisteria trees???

LOL< people pay for those damn vines? They are overruning the woods behind my house and I have a hard time keeping them out of the yard.

They are nothing more than flowering kudzu.

Posted by: Vic at January 04, 2010 02:42 PM (QrA9E)

222 9 #3, do you have any hard evidence that a collapse is in the offing? I predicted failure a decade ago, but it hasn't happened yet. Yeah. Eurozoners no longer have that 3-4% annual growing US market to sell into, to buoy the system; and a 2-3% yield on cashed in T bonds ain't covering costs anymore. 211 The reason the left fails every time is that they fail every time. Then when they fail, they look for the best excuses, then try the same failed policies again. They are truly insane. The reason the Left fails every time is eventually enough of the useful idiots realize socialism isn't a one way street, facing their end of the bank. The reason the Left makes a comeback is that there's always a new generation of pie eyed naifs who sign up for that shit, not having had this headslapped into them by life yet. Kind of like how heavy metal has comeback every generation with a new audience of horny 15 year old boys

Posted by: BuddyPC at January 04, 2010 02:50 PM (nSkOL)

223

@57: The sword broke.

His heart, and will, never did.

-----------------------------------

I beg to differ, sir.

Posted by: The Tree of Woe at January 04, 2010 03:06 PM (cZtT3)

224 If we get to 80% of GDP debt ratio, that's not really so bad. Temporary spending for this recession isn't really the big problem - its the Medicare/SS, etc. coming down the pike.

Posted by: sexypig at January 04, 2010 04:56 PM (0t7L8)

225 Somehow, if Mom manages to survive the death panels (which odds are not good that she will), I can see her wearing a chain mail dress -- who's the chief of Bartertown?

Well, I can shovel shit.  I'll be okay.

Posted by: Ace's liver at January 04, 2010 06:12 PM (XIXhw)

226

230 -- stock up on food/weapons/blankets/sewing supplies/silver n gold (because people will always be jonesing for some shiney to trade, yep; also stocked up on garden seeds and thank goodness for all that survival training -- courtesy of our military...and great grandma (who lived through the Indian Wars, a depression, two world wars, sadly Carter killed her). 

I'm not thinking it's going to get that bad...but just in case.

Posted by: unknown jane at January 04, 2010 06:52 PM (5/yRG)

227 Every country deeply in debt compliments of socialism and the welfare state.

Posted by: czekmark at January 04, 2010 10:38 PM (pubj/)

228 The Chinese suck at math. They keep pushing money down the black hole of US treasuries and help put people like Obama in power. Good thing they have so few long range missles.

Posted by: dvdivx at January 04, 2010 11:02 PM (mE32g)

229 Origins of the hookah come from India along the border of around 1500 Years ago. These hookahs were simple, primitive, and rugged in design, usually made from a coconut shell base and tube with a head attached. hookah

Posted by: Hookah at October 04, 2010 11:35 PM (SnAC/)

230 But because be pair of bait of new learning and nest,this 2 respects still are a novice.

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