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March 12, 2010

The Stench of Socialized Medicine [krak]
— Open Blogger

And yes, it's a little disingenuous to predict that ObamaCare would get this bad, in no small part because we still don't know just what is in the bill as the House and Senate play the "I promise I won't pop in your mouth" charade with each other.

But dude. 8 hours?

A HOSPITAL patient told yesterday of her Â“eight hours of horrorÂ” after the bodies of three dead people were left in their beds Â– with one not taken out until the ward was full of visitors.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 05:33 PM | Comments (122)
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1 Why isn't Obama Care dead yet!

Posted by: mystry at March 12, 2010 05:35 PM (kmgIE)

I promise I won't pop in your mouth

Which is always untrue, sooooo...

Posted by: dagny at March 12, 2010 05:36 PM (w2v+H)

3 Damn, just damn, first?

Posted by: RobD at March 12, 2010 05:36 PM (wGIVf)

4 I see dead people everywhere, and yes they're really fucking dead!

Posted by: conscious and feeling my sixth sense at March 12, 2010 05:36 PM (Vu6sl)

5 Hey... at least it's free right? /s

Posted by: Vet_Missing_Parts at March 12, 2010 05:36 PM (MCHyX)

6 Socialized medicine will be wonderful, won't it comrades?

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at March 12, 2010 05:37 PM (otlXg)

7 ICP will be in heaven.

Posted by: krakatoa at March 12, 2010 05:37 PM (n4Su9)

8 Can you imagine what kind of care one will get with minimum wage help running the insane asylum called Obama Care!

Posted by: mystry at March 12, 2010 05:38 PM (kmgIE)

9 Foisted, neither first nor fisted.

Posted by: bunninac at March 12, 2010 05:38 PM (J7tE4)

10 They keep trying to sell this crap based on anecdotes.

So, we might as well offer some counter-anecdotes to level the field, as long as we don't pretend like they do that any of these anecdotes prove anything.

Posted by: sandy burger at March 12, 2010 05:39 PM (Q6/et)

11 I don't like anecdotes. I like true little stories about real people instead. What? Oh, never-mind.

Posted by: Mephitis at March 12, 2010 05:40 PM (ehXLT)

12 8 hours.

Sloppy work. If I was on duty, they would have been wheeled right down to the commissary while they were still fresh.

Posted by: Barth at March 12, 2010 05:40 PM (q18JE)

13 Anyone notice that the comments were not available for the linked article, wonder why?

Posted by: Naan at March 12, 2010 05:41 PM (j5MTj)

14 Say it with me, folks: "In Canada, I'd be dead!"

At least there they'd get me out of the room faster.

I hope.

Posted by: Joanna at March 12, 2010 05:42 PM (euARo)

15 Under Obama care, no one knows what is in it exactly. Its entirely posible for the health care,(hospitals) to be run by SEIU goons. Wouldn't that be lovely! Can't be fired staff.

Posted by: mystry at March 12, 2010 05:42 PM (kmgIE)

16 First! to say First!

Posted by: Truman North at March 12, 2010 05:43 PM (FjC5u)

17 Kinda like the hospital version of Saving Ned.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at March 12, 2010 05:43 PM (dKLAn)

18 I can't, for the life of me, figure out why anyone would want to put their name on this crap sandwich. Wouldn't you, if you were the Bamster or Pelosi/Reid, think for a least a split second, "What if this all turns out really horrible?....do I really want my name on it?".

Posted by: Tami at March 12, 2010 05:44 PM (VuLos)

19 The hospital morgue was probably full. When you're killing patients by the boatload that unfortunately happens sometimes.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 12, 2010 05:44 PM (Ca+Fq)

20 Please help support the Americans for Real Healthcare Reform by using Grasshopr.com. http://www.grasshopr.com/GroupDetails.aspx?groupUniqueName=AFRHCR

Posted by: Chris Olson at March 12, 2010 05:45 PM (VueEY)

21 Hope I stay healthy for my last 20 years that I have left, but I can still load up a ruck and hump it anywhere I'm needed and yes I have plenty of ammo!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at March 12, 2010 05:45 PM (hOYIE)

Zombie Land Hospital Land

Posted by: conscious and ready to double tap at March 12, 2010 05:45 PM (Vu6sl)

23 How about the patient who died of dehydration. He actually called 911 at one point but the hospital said he was fine. He then died, and I believe, turned to dust.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at March 12, 2010 05:45 PM (I1/U/)

24

That stench you smell are just the people waiting for bypass surgery. The good news is they have plenty of dentures, feet and tonsils at a real cheap price if you happen to need a set.

Posted by: Blazer at March 12, 2010 05:47 PM (t72+4)

25 How about the patient who died of dehydration.

Whiner. He should have taken charge of the situation and drank the water out of the flower vases like those people in another Brit hospital had to do to survive.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 12, 2010 05:48 PM (Ca+Fq)

26 What was that movie awhile back where they were taking the bodies down in the basement for organ donations? That's where obamacare will take us.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at March 12, 2010 05:48 PM (hOYIE)

27 Rethuglican Lies! I have fought and won the war on death.

Posted by: Keefums Olberdouche at March 12, 2010 05:48 PM (NVX6i)

28 I like true little stories about real people instead.

Well, I heard LauraW once pulled a train outside New Delhi.

No, that's not a euphemism. They made a harness they could strap to her hump and encouraged her to tug a broke down train engine 2 miles by dangling an unfrosted chocolate pop-tart in front of her.

Incredible craftsmen those clever little brown people.

Then she let the whole village take turns doinking her.

_{(Sorry. Missed the last flame war and I've been a bit pent up.)}

Posted by: krakatoa at March 12, 2010 05:48 PM (n4Su9)

The hospital morgue was probably full. When you're killing patients by the boatload that unfortunately happens sometimes.

Aren't you just a bundle of cheer today Mr. Avenger?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at March 12, 2010 05:48 PM (RZ8pf)

30 Beware of zombies wearing hospital gowns. Don't let the IV distract you.

Posted by: conscious and ready to double tap at March 12, 2010 05:48 PM (Vu6sl)

31 Don' t they know there's a waiting list for those beds?

They're dying to get in!

Ba-dum-bum!

Posted by: nickless at March 12, 2010 05:49 PM (MMC8r)

32 Heh. As a nurse who worked on a floor (my first job after college), we had some private and semi private (2 bed) rooms. If a person died, we would move the other patient to another room if we couldn't move the body to the morgue right away. Then we would close the door and turn up the a/c. I wonder if there wasn't another bed to move this patient to (probably the case, since I'm sure there are issues with overcrowding in British hospitals). Americans love their private rooms in the hospital. Looks like that's not something you can get in the UK. I wonder how many patients they pack into one room. I'm betting it's more than 2. The other thing, we were always assessing and reassessing on our patients (I'm sure the staffing ratio in the UK is abysmal and that they have non-licensed personnel doing more actual nursing duties). You often had an idea if someone was "going to go" (primary care nursing, we knew our patients and we could tell when things weren't going well). Yes, we did have those sudden, unexpected codes, but I would have to say the majority of people who died deteriorated over a period of time (so you could often start notifying the physician, family, etc.) Once we have "health care reform", I don't know why any nurse would want to work on a floor--I only lasted less than a year on a medical floor, and then I fled to the Operating Room.

Posted by: runningrn at March 12, 2010 05:49 PM (CfmlF)

33 Boy, things have really gone to shit at the Barack Obama Memorial Hospital...

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 12, 2010 05:51 PM (P33XN)

34 Hey. Remember being President is hard.

Posted by: Ellie at March 12, 2010 05:51 PM (4L/Vr)

35 Glad I was cross trained as a medic I just hope I don't have to cut something out of my body, that will leave a mark but I'll get through it.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at March 12, 2010 05:51 PM (hOYIE)

36 Let me guess, the wheel away dead people guys are unionized.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at March 12, 2010 05:51 PM (ympF8)

37 Rethuglican Lies! I have fought and won the war on death.

So that's why you're so horribly misshapen? You've been frankensteining all this time and you never told us? Jeezus, man.

Now I know where to go for a quality flesh golem.

Posted by: bunninac at March 12, 2010 05:51 PM (J7tE4)

38 Aren't you just a bundle of cheer today Mr. Avenger?

What? I'm my usual effervescent self.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 12, 2010 05:52 PM (Ca+Fq)

39 Im drunk for the first time in years. i demand the ONT!

Posted by: mpfs79 at March 12, 2010 05:52 PM (QuP9W)

40 33 Boy, things have really gone to shit at the Barack Obama Memorial Hospital...

This week on Grey's Lobotomy...

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at March 12, 2010 05:53 PM (otlXg)

41 Look, the staff was having a union meeting to decide whether to strike or not. Word was, management was attempting to enforce that rule about not having drunken orgies in the physical therapy spas. Who the HELL do they think they are? Jack-booted storm troopers!

Posted by: 141 Driver at March 12, 2010 05:53 PM (JFNQ7)

ObamaCare Patient: Hey Nurse, what's that stench?

ObamaCare Nurse: Probably your room mate, but it could be the lunch I just brought you!

Posted by: conscious and ready to double tap at March 12, 2010 05:53 PM (Vu6sl)

43 mpfs what's the 79 for?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at March 12, 2010 05:55 PM (RZ8pf)

44 Food in a Hosp. under prez stfu will be like airlines a bag of peanuts and be happy!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at March 12, 2010 05:55 PM (hOYIE)

Heh to the reference to Keith Overbite.

I've been reading a book written by a Catholic priest called Evidence of Satan in the Modern World. Made me wonder if Keith is possessed by demons. Then I stumbled over one of the symptoms of demonic possession: the presence of an alien intelligence in the possessed individual. Since Keith shows absolutely no signs of intelligence, alien or otherwise, I think it's safe to say he's clear of demonic influence.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at March 12, 2010 05:55 PM (P33XN)

Let me guess, the wheel away dead people guys are unionized.

Everybody in a hospital is unionized...even the guys that put the jello in the cups...

Posted by: CanaDave at March 12, 2010 05:56 PM (Wc5RE)

47 39 Im drunk for the first time in years. i demand the ONT!

Posted by: mpfs79 at March 12, 2010 09:52 PM (QuP9W)

I'm drunk for the first time since, well, last night.

Posted by: conscious and ready to double tap at March 12, 2010 05:56 PM (Vu6sl)

48 PGiS
Year I graduated from HS

Posted by: mpfs79 at March 12, 2010 05:56 PM (QuP9W)

49 43 mpfs what's the 79 for?

79 freckles - 79 souls.

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at March 12, 2010 05:56 PM (otlXg)

50 They just take the phrase "You can sleep when you're dead" very seriously.

Posted by: mpur at March 12, 2010 05:56 PM (7m5P2)

51 mpfs what's the 79 for? That's the number of henwaze he has killed.

Posted by: fluffy at March 12, 2010 05:56 PM (4Kl5M)

52
mpfs what's the 79 for?

Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at March 12, 2010 09:55 PM (RZ8pf)

Hopefully, thats how many scantily clad pics she's gonna post on the ONT being this is first time in years she's been drunk and all.

A moron can wish, anyway.

Posted by: Blazer at March 12, 2010 05:57 PM (t72+4)

53 27 Rethuglican Lies! I have fought and won the war on death.

Posted by: Keefums Olberdouche at March 12, 2010 09:48 PM (NVX6i)

game ain't over yet, bitch.

Posted by: Death at March 12, 2010 05:58 PM (erIg9)

54 Kratos,
I have more freckles than that. You would faint

Posted by: mpfs79 at March 12, 2010 05:58 PM (QuP9W)

55 I wish Obama were Demonically possessed. Demons I know how to deal with. These commies are difficult.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 12, 2010 05:58 PM (Ca+Fq)

56 They're all dead Jim!

Posted by: "Bones" McCoy at March 12, 2010 05:58 PM (2g2ex)

57 54

Mmmmm, I loves freckle faced wimmen.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at March 12, 2010 05:59 PM (hOYIE)

58
Year I graduated from HS

Posted by: mpfs79 at March 12, 2010 09:56 PM (QuP9W)

Ixnay, on the scantily clad pics then.

I keed, I keed.

Posted by: Blazer at March 12, 2010 05:59 PM (t72+4)

59 Obama say that if you're happy with the dead people in your room, you can keep the dead people in your room.

Posted by: conscious and ready to double tap at March 12, 2010 05:59 PM (Vu6sl)

60 Blazer darlin how are you?

Posted by: mpfs79 at March 12, 2010 06:00 PM (QuP9W)

61 There's no way Olbermunch could be possessed because that requires, you know, a soul.

Posted by: bunninac at March 12, 2010 06:00 PM (J7tE4)

62 15 Under Obama care, no one knows what is in it exactly. Its entirely posible for the health care,(hospitals) to be run by SEIU goons. Wouldn't that be lovely! Can't be fired staff. The other scary thing, a lot of the younger, newer nurses think they know everything (you can't tell them anything) and they are very entitled. They think there are certain tasks that are "beneath them". So basically if we get "health care reform", you're going to have more sick people, increasingly sicker people (inpatient populations in hospitals are horribly sick--for various reasons--ie. better technology saving people that wouldn't have been saved before, hospitals requiring people to be more ill to stay, etc.) and horrible working conditions, and a bunch of entitled nurses who don't want to work that hard. Between that and the declining quality of our current residents, we are headed for pure ugliness. Seriously, people, stay healthy!

Posted by: runningrn at March 12, 2010 06:00 PM (CfmlF)

63 What's up morons!?

Posted by: CDR M at March 12, 2010 06:01 PM (wGJaU)

64 O/T: Check out the puppy cam.

Posted by: rdbrewer at March 12, 2010 06:01 PM (A95sk)

say = says

Posted by: conscious and halfway there at March 12, 2010 06:01 PM (Vu6sl)

58
Year I graduated from HS

Youngster.

Posted by: huerfano at March 12, 2010 06:01 PM (gLSaO)

67 I was saying earlier that I was going to start trolling funeral homes for dentures that I might need in 20 years, but hell it looks like Hosp. is the place to go.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at March 12, 2010 06:01 PM (hOYIE)

68 krakatoa 28 Well, I heard LauraW once pulled a train outside New Delhi. No, that's not a euphemism. They made a harness they could strap to her hump and encouraged her to tug a broke down train engine 2 miles by dangling an unfrosted chocolate pop-tart in front of her. ...Then she let the whole village take turns doinking her. (Sorry. Missed the last flame war and I've been a bit pent up.)

I believed you up to the "Doinking" part. That's when I realised the story was actually about Senator Cantwell.

Posted by: Zimriel at March 12, 2010 06:01 PM (zs5Rn)

69 54 Kratos,
I have more freckles than that. You would faint

You've stolen even more souls than that? Geez...

Well, at least you have enough so that 'Nam will get an extra one once I take back CDR M's soul for him from you.

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at March 12, 2010 06:02 PM (otlXg)

70
Blazer darlin how are you?

Posted by: mpfs79 at March 12, 2010 10:00 PM (QuP9W)

Dammit, I love it when a woman calls me darlin'. Makes me melt like butter. Doin' justfine sweety, how about you?

Posted by: Blazer at March 12, 2010 06:02 PM (t72+4)

71 The floor nurses should have done something creative...like wheel them down to, and hide them in the hospital administrator's office while they were out for lunch.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 12, 2010 06:03 PM (Ca+Fq)

72 I missed that "chocolate pop-tart". That might be more a selrahC thing

Posted by: Zimriel at March 12, 2010 06:03 PM (zs5Rn)

73 #62 Seriously, people, stay healthy!

Any literature you recommend if we have to live in the wilderness and need to do "maintenance" on yourself?

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at March 12, 2010 06:03 PM (otlXg)

Hey. Remember being President is hard.

And according to Massa, being Chief of Staff isn't.

Posted by: Roy at March 12, 2010 06:04 PM (b2B4w)

75
Any literature you recommend if we have to live in the wilderness and need to do "maintenance" on yourself?

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at March 12, 2010 10:03 PM (otlXg)

How About any Rambo movie?

Posted by: Blazer at March 12, 2010 06:05 PM (t72+4)

76 I was saying earlier that I was going to start trolling funeral homes for dentures that I might need in 20 years

Dentures are cheap, there's probably a very brisk black market business in gloming hearing aids. Some of those damn things are in the over $5,000 range.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 12, 2010 06:05 PM (Ca+Fq)

77 71 The floor nurses should have done something creative...like wheel them down to, and hide them in the hospital administrator's office while they were out for lunch.

I'd put them in the waiting rooms and have their faces covered by newspapers, blankets, or caps. And then I would have asked everybody to "Please don't disturb my friends, they're dead tired".

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at March 12, 2010 06:06 PM (otlXg)

78 Many things have been said today but I vote for the tour of the factory with rabbits eating Hershey bars as #1.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at March 12, 2010 06:06 PM (hOYIE)

Dentures are cheap, there's probably a very brisk black market business in gloming hearing aids. Some of those damn things are in the over $5,000 range.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 12, 2010 10:05 PM (Ca+Fq)

What???

Posted by: conscious and halfway there at March 12, 2010 06:06 PM (Vu6sl)

At least the dead people are quiet roomates.

Posted by: Count de Monet at March 12, 2010 06:07 PM (2g2ex)

81 77,

You forgot the dimes on the eyes schtick.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at March 12, 2010 06:07 PM (hOYIE)

82 B;azer,
I am drunk and horny. How about that? and I have freckles.

Posted by: mpfs79 at March 12, 2010 06:07 PM (QuP9W)

83 78 Many things have been said today but I vote for the tour of the factory with rabbits eating Hershey bars as #1.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at March 12, 2010 10:06 PM (hOYIE)

That was a great one!

Posted by: conscious and halfway there at March 12, 2010 06:07 PM (Vu6sl)

84 #75 How About any Rambo movie?

Good point. My favorite was Rambo 3, when Rambo closed a wound by putting the primer and power from an AK-47 round into the wound and igniting them.

Posted by: Kratos (on the back of Gaia, scaling Mt Olympus) at March 12, 2010 06:08 PM (otlXg)

85 wheres the ONT....wtf? why are we waiting? why is this happening? whats this button for? wheres ace at? screw this....delete...

Posted by: str8 outta monongahela at March 12, 2010 06:08 PM (SlvZ2)

86 Yep, hearing aids are a product with massive profit margins. My uncle has a "cheap" set and they were $4K.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 12, 2010 06:08 PM (Ca+Fq)

87
Dentures are cheap, there's probably a very brisk black market business in gloming hearing aids. Some of those damn things are in the over $5,000 range.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 12, 2010 10:05 PM (Ca+Fq)

Note to self:

If I ever run into Lee Majors, steal his Bionic Ear and try not to get my ass kicked in the process.

Posted by: Blazer at March 12, 2010 06:09 PM (t72+4)

88 84,

Actually as a last resort that would work, but you have to be tough not a liberal metro.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at March 12, 2010 06:10 PM (hOYIE)

A person's body releases a lot of unpleasant odors and substances following death that require cleanup and a quick removal of the body is only respectful.

26 What was that movie awhile back where they were taking the bodies down in the basement for organ donations? That's where obamacare will take us.

The movie to which you are referring is Coma written by Robin Cook and the always prescient Michael Crichton.

Posted by: huerfano at March 12, 2010 06:11 PM (gLSaO)

90
B;azer,
I am drunk and horny. How about that? and I have freckles.

Posted by: mpfs79 at March 12, 2010 10:07 PM (QuP9W)

Dont forget, I'm a Ginger too. Perhaps we can lay next to each other and count each others freckles while enjoying a cigarette.

Posted by: Blazer at March 12, 2010 06:11 PM (t72+4)

91 A bottle of crazy glue is good to have in a field surgical kit. It glues skin very well even when damp/wet. CA type glues are even used surgically in some cases. I've used CA in the past to seal badish cuts and it works great.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 12, 2010 06:12 PM (Ca+Fq)

92 Just was talking to a former marine who goes to the VA for everything.. He has 2 new hearing aids that cost $1,000.00 each. does not cost him of course. He says that they are crap and he needs batteries every 5 days.. They hand out the batteries by the case to him.. About 100 per case. No S***.

Posted by: mystry at March 12, 2010 06:13 PM (kmgIE)

93 PA, water is what makes crazy glue harden.

Posted by: rdbrewer at March 12, 2010 06:13 PM (A95sk)

94 82 B;azer,
I am drunk and horny. How about that? and I have freckles.

Posted by: mpfs79 at March 12, 2010 10:07 PM (QuP9W)

Damn mpfs79, Too but I'm not a few years younger and you lived near Salt Lake City. I think we could work some of those kinks out.

Posted by: conscious and halfway there at March 12, 2010 06:13 PM (Vu6sl)

95 Dont forget, I'm a Ginger too. Perhaps we can lay next to each other and count each others freckles while enjoying a cigarette.

I didn't know you did scientific projects.

Posted by: mpfs79 at March 12, 2010 06:14 PM (QuP9W)

96 92,

Now, now that is far fetched my friend, I rely on VA in Houston for all my medical care (haven't been in a long time because I don't need too) but they are the best when I do attend there games.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at March 12, 2010 06:15 PM (hOYIE)

97 Wow, the ONT is gonna be fun tonight!

Posted by: CDR M at March 12, 2010 06:17 PM (wGJaU)

98 their

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at March 12, 2010 06:17 PM (hOYIE)

99 One day, we're going to wake up and the Deed Shall Be Done, and We Shall Be Screwed.

And then, the sh*t will hit the fan. Mark my words.

Posted by: shibumi at March 12, 2010 06:21 PM (OKZrE)

100
Dont forget, I'm a Ginger too. Perhaps we can lay next to each other and count each others freckles while enjoying a cigarette.

I didn't know you did scientific projects.

Posted by: mpfs79 at March 12, 2010 10:14 PM (QuP9W)

Why yes Mrs. Paul's, science is my specialty.

Somebody cue up the '70s porno music, I'll handle the rest.

Posted by: Blazer at March 12, 2010 06:23 PM (t72+4)

101

The other thing this emphasizes is the endemic, corrosive, all-consuming nihilism in these socialist countries - where were the dead patients' families when this was happening?

Reminds me of that heat wave a few years ago when the French yuppies couldn't be bothered to return home from their vacations, and French Grannies & Grandpas died by the hundreds [thousands?] in their air-condition-less apartments.

Posted by: at March 12, 2010 06:30 PM (kyg+f)

102 Business will be picking up under ObamaCare, Sam! Prepare the bodies for examination and contact Dr. Astin and Lieutenant Monahan! Tell them I will have to take a rain check on our weekly card game at "Danny's" until ObamaCare is repealed by the GOP and the bodies stop piling up!

Posted by: Dr. Quincy, M.E. at March 12, 2010 07:15 PM (ljvjO)

103

Eight hours of horror, my ass. Total control of the TV remote, no annoying commentary from the roommates, extra meals dropped off.....

Fuckin' Heaven.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at March 12, 2010 07:28 PM (kmEfr)

104 Bad as as UKcare is. Where are the families? No one came and made a stink on why their dead relitive is left with out proper respect and taken out of sight. The next story will be that there are thousands of unclaimed bodies that the famly just gave to the state when they were alive and did not care if and when they died they are now property of the state health care.

Posted by: tjexcite at March 12, 2010 07:32 PM (W5AP4)

105 Kratos @ #73 - Try "Where There Are No Doctors."

Posted by: Butch at March 12, 2010 07:46 PM (myCYQ)

106 Glad I was cross trained as a medic I just hope I don't have to cut something out of my body, that will leave a mark but I'll get through it.

Don't be a pussy. This guy did it, so can you.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 12, 2010 08:21 PM (LtIsn)

107 Though, to be honest, he did kind of cheat, using anesthesia like that instead of the more traditional vodka.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 12, 2010 08:24 PM (LtIsn)

108 Eight hours of horror, my ass. Total control of the TV remote, no annoying commentary from the roommates, extra meals dropped off.....

You know, you laugh, but when I was in the hospital only my own infirmity kept me from smothering the other occupants of the room so I could get some fucking sleep.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 12, 2010 08:26 PM (LtIsn)

109

Yes, it is most likely a union thing.

There are STRICT union rules about who can do this job and who can do that job. And it would not surprise me that there is someone whose specific job description is to cart away the dead ("Bring out your dead!"), such that NO ONE ELSE is allowed to do it.

To be sure, they have all sorts of union rules about who can carry caskets at funerals and that sort of thing.

Posted by: Bender at March 12, 2010 09:51 PM (802+s)

110 Like I said on on Dan Rielh's latest posts on this: We need a soundtrack for this debate...

Sick Puppies - "You're going down."
Within Temptation - "Stand My Ground."
Blue Oyster Cult - "Don't Fear the Reaper"
Blue Oyster Cult - "Veteran of the Psychic Wars."
The Cruxshadows - "Winterborn."
The Cruxshadows - "The Eye of the Storm."
Dragon Force - "Through the Fire and Flames."
Idina Menzel - "A Hero Comes Home."
Globus - "Europa."
Heather Alexander - "March of Cambreadth."

We can use those and bring in Hans Zimmer for the dramatic build up between scenes.

Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at March 12, 2010 10:11 PM (ZV4dD)

111 8 "Can you imagine what kind of care one will get with minimum wage help running the insane asylum called Obama Care!"

Well, that's the care you get today in America's Death Prisons...er...nursing homes. Overworked, under-educated, under-trained - often stoned - teenagers providing most of the direct patient care, who spend more time arguing over who's turn it is to do what than actually taking care of any patients.

So, yeah. I can imagine it...

As for nationalized health care, compare the VA Health system, especially the difference between Walter Reed - with problems of its own - to a local VA health clinic in a flyover state...also, see budget for same, year over year, for the last one hundred years, give or take bit..

Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at March 12, 2010 10:17 PM (ZV4dD)

112 Dentures are cheap, there's probably a very brisk black market business in gloming hearing aids. Some of those damn things are in the over $5,000 range.

Posted by: Purple Avenger at March 12, 2010 10:05 PM (Ca+Fq)

I recently got partials on the upper and lower. With all the work they had to do the total came out over 5K. Neither one of these things are cheap.

Posted by: Vic at March 13, 2010 12:59 AM (QrA9E)

113 "hospital ward"

I dont know about you guys, but where I am from, we dont HAVE "hospital wards". We have hospital rooms, where a maximum of two patients share a room. Most of the time, you get a room to yourself. Wards are another cancer of countries with socialist medicine, cramming many people in the same large public room because of the shortage of doctors, nurses and other staff.

Posted by: American Elephant at March 13, 2010 01:04 AM (2+X4m)

114

I dont know about you guys, but where I am from, we dont HAVE "hospital wards".

When I grew up we had wards, semi-private, and private rooms. The only people who stayed in the private rooms were the rich. This was before insurance.

If you had a communicable disease you stayed at home and the Dr. came by to see you.

This is how insurance has changed the buisness. All rooms are private now, at least as far as I have seen.

Posted by: Vic at March 13, 2010 01:36 AM (QrA9E)

115

Latest on Healthscam over at Fox:

Health Care Bill 'Still a Jump Ball,' White House Official Says

The prospects for Democratic victory on health care reform, the president's signature domestic initiative, have improved, but "it's still a jump ball," a top White House official intimately involved in the ongoing health care negotiations with House and Senate Democrats told Fox News late Friday.

This is an AP article edited by Major Garret. Since it is based on verbiage from Adm offficials and Nancy Botox it means she still doesn't have the votes.

No mention of the "pass by decree" scam but it does mention the student loan nationalization they want to fold into it Monday. So I guess they are still planning on a "reconciliation" of a bill that have never been passed that they will rule has passed.

Posted by: Vic at March 13, 2010 01:45 AM (QrA9E)

116

On the student loan nationalization they had this to say:

With Democrats deciding to incorporate changes in student aid into the bill, Republicans suddenly had a new reason to oppose legislation they have long sought to scuttle.

Yeah, no bias there. Rains is right, Fox is a PR wing for the Republicans hahahahaha.

BTW, the last student loan thing they did they passed via reconcilliation as well. So far that is the ONLY non-budget releated thing that has been passed using reconcilliation. In that bill the Feds became a direct compeditor in making loans to students instead of just guaranteeing loans.

I guess that didn't have the results they wanted because students still went to private companies who had fewer restrictions on how they could get the loans.

In this new bill they are just shutting down the private companies and all tudent loans will be via the government. If I not mistaken, that is blatantly unconsituional.

But hell, the original program was also unconsitutional and nobody bitched so there you are. Every time you give these assholes and inch they take a mile.

Posted by: Vic at March 13, 2010 01:52 AM (QrA9E)

117 Dude, it'll be much worse in the U.S. The European Union and Canada has soaked up the supply of educated third world nurses and physicians willing to work for socialist wages.

In the US, we'll see undocumented workers making decisions about whether your hospital room, sheets, and surgical theater have been properly sterilized.

Posted by: dustydog at March 13, 2010 02:27 AM (7Dddx)

118 intrade closed at 65% yesterday, money seems to think it will pass. Comparing healthcare horrors in countries with socialized medicine is about as valid as comparing healthcare in free market healthcare countries like Nigeria

Posted by: Rick Warren at March 13, 2010 06:07 AM (mhD2v)

119 Sharpen your pitchforks

Posted by: Neo at March 13, 2010 06:11 AM (tE8FB)

120 119 intrade closed at 65% yesterday, money seems to think it will pass. Comparing healthcare horrors in countries with socialized medicine is about as valid as comparing healthcare in free market healthcare countries like Nigeria

Posted by: Rick Warren at March 13, 2010 10:07 AM (mhD2v)

Sure thing, buddy. Of course, supporters of the current healthcare plan being forced on the American people by Democrats regularly cite the supposed high-quality care in these same foreign countries with socialized medicine as support for their plan. As expected, this invites those of us opposed to their plan to analyze the healthcare system in those countries and expose the problems those countries have despite their citizens giving up a lot of individual liberty and freedom to implement the system. Also, the Democrats want to get to single-payer in this country eventually so pointing out the problems with single-payer systems or examples of socialized medicine across the globe is necessary to do now in order to try to head it off. But I guess it's easier being intellectually dishonest than acknowledging all this, right?

Posted by: Slappy at March 13, 2010 06:48 AM (ljvjO)

121 The UK story of a young man dying of thirst in hospital is a much better example. And YES, it will happen here --nursing homes prove it.

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