July 16, 2010
— Ace I posted something about this yesterday, but wasn't sure of how much fakery was being alleged or could be established. In at least one instance, Think Progress had used Crash the Tea Party agent provocateurs to make the case that the Tea Party was racist.
Well, today comes more analysis. How much was faked or misrepresented? Almost all of it.
Activist 2 is a favorite of Think Progress, and no wonder: he says exactly what they hoped to hear a tea partier say, exclaiming: “I’m a proud racist, I’m white.” Think Progress liked this clip so much they played it not once, but twice.The problem is, Activist 2 isn’t a tea party protester. He is a tea party crasher.
Think Progress is well aware of this, as they pulled the few seconds of video from a nearly six-minute video of actual tea party protesters singling him out for scorn and chasing him away!
The guy seems to be wearing a Nazi shirt that just came fresh from a mail-order package. Almost like he just got it, in order to wear to the Tea Party.
This is sweet:
Activist 4?He is the reason the original 53-second Think Progress video has shrunk down to an even more anemic 50 seconds.
His brief — inarguably racist — shout of “Go home wetbacks!” is provably a video from 2006.
Years before the tea party existed.
Nice. Nice.
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Posted by: Average Voter at July 16, 2010 08:50 AM (mQ8O/)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at July 16, 2010 08:50 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: GarandFan at July 16, 2010 08:50 AM (6mwMs)
An astroturfed racist mob? What will they think of next. Astroturfed violence, oh, that's right, they already did that.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at July 16, 2010 08:52 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at July 16, 2010 08:54 AM (0q2P7)
I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm a racist and all. I'm just not much of a "joiner".
On a totally unrelated note, Frau just brought a bunch of squash in from the garden. A couple of them are small yellow squash where 2 have grown together. Swearing on all that is holy, they look just like scrota. Being 40 is no barrier to being juvenile.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at July 16, 2010 08:55 AM (eubBM)
Posted by: Jess at July 16, 2010 08:55 AM (/IZFg)
Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2010 08:55 AM (/jbAw)
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at July 16, 2010 08:57 AM (eubBM)
The libs are already out there attempting to plant little Reichstag fires all over the place and they call us Nazi's ? Scratch a libtard uncover a fascist. I suspect it will get a whole lot worse the closer to November we come. These folks are growing more and more desperate.
Posted by: Blazer at July 16, 2010 08:58 AM (t72+4)
That's assuming we have elections in 2012.
Posted by: BecckoningChasm at July 16, 2010 08:59 AM (IEJ4J)
Posted by: curious at July 16, 2010 09:00 AM (p302b)
You should read Jonah Goldberg's Liberal Fascism A true eye-opener..
Posted by: BecckoningChasm at July 16, 2010 09:00 AM (IEJ4J)
Posted by: Jean at July 16, 2010 09:01 AM (XSlA+)
Posted by: BecckoningChasm at July 16, 2010 12:48 PM (IEJ4J)
I had to listen to two libs yesterday talk about their horror of seeing a picture of 'Obama as Hitler' on CNN. I calmly asked if they had never seen the pictures of Bush as Hitler. Nope...never saw them.
Posted by: Tami at July 16, 2010 09:01 AM (VuLos)
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent - gas free, at this point at July 16, 2010 09:01 AM (YVZlY)
Evlybody know how say Kru Krux Kran.
Posted by: Won "Chet" Lee at July 16, 2010 09:03 AM (eubBM)
It's bad when Barney Frank is the smartest one in the frame.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at July 16, 2010 09:04 AM (eubBM)
She blew me right before that. At least the cunt has some manners.
Posted by: Mel at July 16, 2010 09:06 AM (eubBM)
The NAACP call out and comes up with a resolution declaring ThinkProgress a racist organization over this stunt in....5....4....3...2....
Posted by: Blazer at July 16, 2010 09:07 AM (t72+4)
And we laughed and laughed, because we both know there isn't a chance in hell of that happening.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at July 16, 2010 09:08 AM (eubBM)
Dunno. We'd better get Ace right on it.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at July 16, 2010 09:09 AM (PMGbu)
When I was at the Tea Party at the Boston Common in April there were a bunch of shitheads running around with signs mocking us.
One group of a-holes had a big poster of Levi's playgirl photo with another sign "I'm Gay For Sarah Palin!"
Another group of losers wore those 18th century white wigs holding signs such as "Constitution: You don't know me!"
And another group of older liberals (unemployed yupees w/masters degrees) were dressed in tuxes and evening gowns complaining about taxes.
We pointed at all of these people and just laughed at them.
Posted by: you make me want to smoke at July 16, 2010 09:09 AM (uFokq)
Ace, you just figuring this out?
Watch this, the most dishonest fucking Political ad ever. Since they weren't call out on this, they just kept lying. Da Huh!
This STILL makes my blood boil!
http://tinyurl.com/ccqrfm
Posted by: Kemp at July 16, 2010 09:09 AM (2+9Yx)
That picture of Pelosi on Drudge looks like "she's squeezing one off"
Naw, that's just what happens when Super Glue dries too fast.
Posted by: Blazer at July 16, 2010 09:10 AM (t72+4)
Stormfronters do show up to Tea Parties; one of them crashed the party last year. I didn't see him, but he posted a writeup in his forum, and I got sent a link to it. The gist of it was that Stormfronters don't like it at the Tea Parties. The average Tea Partier is pro-Israel; Stormfront... not so much. So they end up steaming in a corner about jooooos and not really able to mingle with the crowd.
But "RACISTS Attend Tea Party And Hide In A Corner!" doesn't make for much of a talking-point at Think Progress.
Posted by: a four-year supply of grain alcohol at July 16, 2010 09:10 AM (9Sbz+)
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent - gas free, at this point at July
16, 2010 01:01 PM (YVZlY)
--Are Nancy Lugosi and Barney Frankenbeaner more ugly, or more stupid?
Discuss.
Posted by: logprof at July 16, 2010 09:10 AM (BP6Z1)
Of course, the NAACP expected the Tea Party to come clean and say 'You got us. We're racist as hell. We hate blackjack, we hate black magic, we hate black eyed peas, and we hate Barack and Michelle's black ass.'
No political motives at all. Nope. They just hate racism wherever they see it. Luckily, they can change the definition of racism on you whenever it suits them.
Posted by: gator at July 16, 2010 09:11 AM (aOKEC)
Posted by: madtechie at July 16, 2010 09:11 AM (jp7hn)
Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at July 16, 2010 09:12 AM (wd0Iq)
Dunno. We'd better get Ace right on it.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at July 16, 2010 01:09 PM (PMGbu)
No but Big Hollywood links to the story below about 2 forensic experts who claim the recordings were altered.
http://tinyurl.com/29pbehk
Posted by: Hedgehog at July 16, 2010 09:12 AM (oQIfB)
Posted by: maddogg at July 16, 2010 09:14 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent - gas free, at this point at July 16, 2010 09:14 AM (YVZlY)
Ahhh, brothers-in-arms.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at July 16, 2010 09:15 AM (JSghx)
This entire meme of Tea Party racism is manufactured, it's not just Think Progress. I saw a few clips of the calcified Larry King who had several people who're still spreading the lie about legislators getting spat upon on the Capitol steps. They absolutely refuse to show any concrete proof of their charges despite all the cameras and recorders shown in clips of the event.
The lefties are floundering badly. The American people aren't stupid, but we sure are being treated like drooling imbeciles.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 16, 2010 09:15 AM (i3AsK)
And there will always be faux guilt-/agenda-driven tools in the media who will give them plenty of airtime to insist they saw things that didn't happen and let them make false accusations unchallenged.
Until people grow the hell up and are willing to expose racists and those who enable racism for personal gain (that would be you, Sharpton and Jackson) for the frauds they are, we're screwed.
BTW: I apologize to Herr Morgenholz for using the word "blow."
Posted by: MrScribbler at July 16, 2010 09:16 AM (Ulu3i)
Posted by: curious at July 16, 2010 09:17 AM (p302b)
Posted by: CoolCzech at July 16, 2010 09:18 AM (tJjm/)
Posted by: curious at July 16, 2010 09:19 AM (p302b)
Another Mel Gibson post s'il vous plaît?
Posted by: WTF at July 16, 2010 09:19 AM (j5CHE)
Breitbart pokes a 30 foot long pole up the NAACP's ass on charges of racism:
Ehm... is doing that racist?
HotAir
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 16, 2010 09:19 AM (r1h5M)
Posted by: CoolCzech at July 16, 2010 09:19 AM (tJjm/)
Posted by: curious at July 16, 2010 09:21 AM (p302b)
Posted by: nickless at July 16, 2010 09:22 AM (MMC8r)
53 Okay, I give: WHAT is "inarguably racist" about shouting "go home wetbacks"???
If you see someone whose last name is "Villareal" or some such and you say that shit, and it turns out he's from a Rio Grande Valley family from the late 1700s, then yeah, "racist" would apply. You're insulting the guy based on his racial background, and you're telling him he doesn't belong in this country.
It's generally a good idea not to descend to namecalling anyway. It makes you stupid.
Posted by: Zimriel at July 16, 2010 09:22 AM (9Sbz+)
hey you know who was a 'wetback'?
One of Faisal Shithead's cab-driving buddies who lived in Boston. He came here from Pakistian via the Rio Grande.
So 'wetback' isn't racist -- it means anyone who enters here illegally by swimming across the Rio Grande. Gringo on the other hand is a racist pejorative.
Posted by: you make me want to smoke at July 16, 2010 09:23 AM (uFokq)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at July 16, 2010 09:23 AM (JSghx)
Is she familiar with where that phrase came from?
Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2010 09:25 AM (/jbAw)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at July 16, 2010 01:23 PM (JSghx)"
You know Guy Fawkes, I am starting to think there is a correlation between the response of the American people and what is going on with iphone4. I know so many people who have the phone and are vociferously complaining to their friends. Oddly enough, no one has complained to apple. It's almost like the passing of the HC bill took away America's voice.
Posted by: curious at July 16, 2010 09:25 AM (p302b)
59 Can you imagine what the chatter is at NAACP events about jews and hispanics?
The NAACP represents the black middle class of government or "shadow-government" (diversity, etc) workers. I don't expect that they talk a lot of garbage against either Jews or Hispanics. I expect more animus against whites, except coded as "Republicans" and "racists".
Posted by: Zimriel at July 16, 2010 09:25 AM (9Sbz+)
Posted by: JDC at July 16, 2010 09:26 AM (sGtp+)
again I have to say how surprised I am that Obama allowed himself (via Michelle Obama) to get himself into a reverse Sister Souljah moment.
I have to remind myself that Obama does not care about being popular with mainstream America.
Posted by: you make me want to smoke at July 16, 2010 09:28 AM (uFokq)
#61, " Gringo on the other hand is a racist pejorative."
Hardly. It's a reference to the US Army and one of its marching songs from the 1800s.
Give it up. You're not going to "take back the word 'wetback'".
Posted by: Zimriel at July 16, 2010 09:28 AM (9Sbz+)
Apparently stevie doesn't care either...
Posted by: curious at July 16, 2010 09:29 AM (p302b)
Upper, not middle—and not black, mostly. Look at them.
Posted by: oblig. at July 16, 2010 09:29 AM (x7Ao8)
Posted by: Zimriel at July 16, 2010 09:30 AM (9Sbz+)
Posted by: maddogg at July 16, 2010 09:30 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: kerncon at July 16, 2010 09:30 AM (S4d07)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at July 16, 2010 09:31 AM (JSghx)
Posted by: maddogg at July 16, 2010 09:32 AM (OlN4e)
conservatives: scared out of their minds, fear, terror, hatred, anger, violent, cruel, insensitive, selfish, greedy, money-focused, watch cars go round and round on a race track, racist, sexual hangups
liberals: relaxed, mature, caring, considerate, connected to nature, compassionate, intellectual, well read, watched the World Cup, comfortable with sex
Posted by: Walter at July 16, 2010 09:33 AM (oA4y0)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at July 16, 2010 01:23 PM (JSghx)
Geez! Cover those things up!
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent - gas free, at this point at July 16, 2010 09:33 AM (YVZlY)
oh guy, no options, I outright own lots of stock...
Posted by: curious at July 16, 2010 09:33 AM (p302b)
Hardly. It's a reference to the US Army and one of its marching songs from the 1800s.
Posted by: you make me want to smoke at July 16, 2010 09:34 AM (uFokq)
Posted by: Zombie Bob Crane at July 16, 2010 09:34 AM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: Alec Rawls at July 16, 2010 09:34 AM (kTTUz)
Me thinks Apple pissed of the same peoples as Toyota.
Breitbart 2012
Posted by: dananjcon at July 16, 2010 01:34 PM (pr+up)"
interesting right?
Posted by: curious at July 16, 2010 09:36 AM (p302b)
So those who claim to hate RACISM act out as RACISTS so they can pretend people who aren't RACISTS are RACISTS.
Kind of defeats their hole point doesn't it?
They claim the RIGHT is RACIST, but cannot give any actual examples, so they become RACISTS themselves.
LIBTARDS ARE EVIL.
Posted by: gus at July 16, 2010 09:37 AM (Vqruj)
Actually, we get those from a special catalog along with the naughty nurse get ups.
NAZI gear in public? That's hot.
Posted by: Some Liberal at July 16, 2010 09:38 AM (bgcml)
Can't remember where I saw it, but the nation of islam mysogynistic murdering cult is calling for reparation payments from Jews.
Them Jews have a Bigger Stash than Obama!
...whom I've never met...
Posted by: Sweet Louis Farrakhan at July 16, 2010 09:38 AM (L09+R)
Posted by: Zimriel at July 16, 2010 01:30 PM (9Sbz+)
You know what? I'm gonna keep this short and to the point. Your statement is pure conjecture, toned by your dislike of conservatives in general, and in my opinion (my conjecture) bullshit.
Posted by: maddogg at July 16, 2010 09:39 AM (OlN4e)
Walter, you forgot liberals comfortable with sex with children and love abortion.
Posted by: gus at July 16, 2010 09:40 AM (Vqruj)
Liberal, leftist, progressive, dem lying liars caught lying yada, yada...
B R E A K !
We all know the awesomeness of the women of the IDF. This is even awesomenesser!
Israellycool
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 16, 2010 09:40 AM (r1h5M)
Posted by: 18-1 at July 16, 2010 09:40 AM (bgcml)
Walter, you forgot liberals comfortable with sex with children and love abortion.
Posted by: gus at July 16, 2010 01:40 PM (Vqruj)
And rape, but not rape-rape
Posted by: Whoopi Goldberg at July 16, 2010 09:41 AM (bgcml)
they're jealous that they're not allowed to use them anymore too.
Which is it? We're not allowed to use them, so we're racist? Or, we use them at will because we're racist?
Posted by: gator at July 16, 2010 09:42 AM (aOKEC)
#61, " Gringo on the other hand is a racist pejorative."
Hardly. It's a reference to the US Army and one of its marching songs from the 1800s.
Posted by: Zimriel at July 16, 2010 01:28 PM (9Sbz+)
Yes Zimriel, "Gringo" IS absolutely a racist epithet.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at July 16, 2010 09:42 AM (oIp16)
Posted by: BHO, Vacationer-in-Chief at July 16, 2010 09:42 AM (kb0wl)
When's the last time you heard a Mexican refer to a white person as a gringo with an affectionate tone?
If you're gonna say people use wetback as a racial epithet at least admit gringo is too.
Posted by: you make me want to smoke at July 16, 2010 09:44 AM (uFokq)
We all know the awesomeness of the women of the IDF. This is even awesomenesser!
“Lying in ambushes for days with fellow female fighters and reaching the most intimate moments with them – beyond the satisfaction of protecting the State, we gain friends for life.
If your first name were your middle name, I would not like you as I do.
Posted by: garrett at July 16, 2010 09:44 AM (L09+R)
Despite denials by the office of Vice President Joe Biden and the U.S. embassy in Kenya, the leading pro-life congressman says the Obama administration is absolutely engaging in illegal funding of a campaign to get voters in Kenya to adopt a pro-abortion constitution.
Think this will get any play on the MFM? Also this makes Odumbass a racist.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at July 16, 2010 09:45 AM (JSghx)
We all know the awesomeness of the women of the IDF. This is even awesomenesser!
Israellycool
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 16, 2010 01:40 PM (r1h5M)
--Who's the black beauty? Those are tasty kick-ass pics!
Posted by: logprof at July 16, 2010 09:46 AM (BP6Z1)
Steve: You know we hear from customers who love this phone and have a great experience with it, and we're doing a lot to help them with any issues they're seeing. To investors, you know, you invest in the company we are, so if the stock goes down $5... I don't think I owe them an apology."
Ah, he so love WS, not.....
Posted by: curious at July 16, 2010 09:47 AM (p302b)
If your first name were your middle name, I would not like you as I do.
Posted by: garrett at July 16, 2010 01:44 PM (L09+R)
I know what you mean!
And oh... my pleasure.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 16, 2010 09:47 AM (r1h5M)
Only a fucking moron would claim wetback is racist and gringo is not.
Zimriel, you are a fucking moron. A diseased liberal moron.
Posted by: gus at July 16, 2010 09:48 AM (Vqruj)
It's bad when Barney Frank is the smartest one in the frame.
OK but he's not super good when it comes to history... last night for some unknown reason I clicked over to PBS and had a few laughs watching Mr Frank on Charlie Rose blaming George Bush and the republicans for Fanny and Freddie. He was on quite a roll and it seemed like the faster he talked the less sense he made. It was almost as if he was afraid that Charlie was going to argue with his attempt to rewrite history. Apparently Barney wasn't aware that there was absolutely no chance Charlie would interrupt him unless of couse he said something negative about Obama.
Posted by: ADK46er at July 16, 2010 09:49 AM (2dkWj)
"To investors, you know, you invest in the company we are, so if the stock goes down $5... I don't think I owe them an apology."
hahaha, sounds just like Obama.
Unemployment is only 9.6%, not 12%. So you should be thanking me.
Posted by: you make me want to smoke at July 16, 2010 09:50 AM (uFokq)
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at July 16, 2010 09:51 AM (oIp16)
112 Did Zimriel just realize that he was late for a La Raza meeting and have to race away?
I see what you did there. Very punny.
Posted by: Anonymous Race Baiter at July 16, 2010 09:51 AM (zgZzy)
--Who's the black beauty? Those are tasty kick-ass pics!
Posted by: logprof at July 16, 2010 01:46 PM (BP6Z1)
Bathsheba's descendant.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 16, 2010 09:51 AM (r1h5M)
People who bleat about the alleged "racism" of others are the most insufferable pricks on the planet. They spend their worthless lives trying to cause chaos over worthless ideas. They should just help the world and take themselves out of the run of existence.
Hey, ThinkProgress ... think green, instead, and undo the impact that your life has on this planet. Erase your existence and call it a day, already.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 16, 2010 09:52 AM (5TNVe)
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 16, 2010 09:53 AM (Zq7bR)
People who bleat about the alleged "racism" of others are the most insufferable pricks on the planet.
Hey! We're right here!
Posted by: Jackson and Sharpton at July 16, 2010 09:53 AM (zgZzy)
Posted by: Jean at July 16, 2010 09:54 AM (yGYDb)
Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 16, 2010 09:54 AM (5TNVe)
103 Think this will get any play on the MFM? Also this makes Odumbass a racist.
My sister is in Kenya right now, & there is resentment & anxiety in certain parts of the population concerning this vote. The Kenyans are well-aware that people are meddling in their affairs.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at July 16, 2010 09:55 AM (/h097)
Posted by: sifty at July 16, 2010 09:56 AM (BItlo)
My sister is in Kenya right now, & there is resentment & anxiety in certain parts of the population concerning this vote. The Kenyans are well-aware that people are meddling in their affairs.
And we would have gotten away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids!
Posted by: Barack "Scooby Doo" Obama at July 16, 2010 09:56 AM (zgZzy)
#61, " Gringo on the other hand is a racist pejorative."
Hardly. It's a reference to the US Army and one of its marching songs from the 1800s.
Posted by: Zimriel at July 16, 2010 01:28 PM (9Sbz+)
Yes Zimriel, "Gringo" IS absolutely a racist epithet.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at July 16, 2010 01:42 PM (oIp16)
Unless my wife's family can't stand me, "Gringo" is not a racist pejorative in fact its increasingly being used as a term of endearment. Like a lot of spanish and english for that matter it depends on the context and tone of the conversation.
Posted by: dananjcon at July 16, 2010 09:57 AM (pr+up)
Posted by: Concerned Conservative Asking Questions at July 16, 2010 09:57 AM (aOABC)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 16, 2010 09:57 AM (zgZzy)
103 Think this will get any play on the MFM? Also this makes Odumbass a racist.
My sister is in Kenya right now, & there is resentment & anxiety in certain parts of the population concerning this vote. The Kenyans are well-aware that people are meddling in their affairs.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at July 16, 2010 01:55 PM (/h097)
I hope that your sister stays safe while she is over there. I don't have any trust in the stability of that part of the world right now.
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent - gas free, at this point at July 16, 2010 09:57 AM (YVZlY)
People who bleat about the alleged "racism" of others are the most insufferable pricks on the planet. They spend their worthless lives trying to cause chaos over worthless ideas. They should just help the world and take themselves out of the run of existence.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 16, 2010 01:52 PM (5TNVe)
Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton (in unison), "It pays the bills!"
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 16, 2010 09:58 AM (r1h5M)
hey how nice of Apple, they are offering you a ten cent piece of plastic and a note that says, "Thanks for waiting in line for 7 hours for a defective phone, how do our balls taste".
Congrats Apple, destroy a following that took yout 20 years to build over you desire to not make your customers whole.
Posted by: Ben at July 16, 2010 09:59 AM (wuv1c)
speaking of Kenya...
I've got an Ethiopian friend and he tells me that China is investing a lot of money there building infrastructure. I thought it was kinda strange because I had no idea China was branching out like that.
Incidentally, it's funny because when the U.S. invests abroad and works with foreing governments the Left says it's prrof of America's imperialism.
Posted by: you make me want to smoke at July 16, 2010 09:59 AM (uFokq)
Unless my wife's family can't stand me, "Gringo" is not a racist pejorative in fact its increasingly being used as a term of endearment. Like a lot of spanish and english for that matter it depends on the context and tone of the conversation.
Posted by: dananjcon at July 16, 2010 01:57 PM (pr+up)
Like "Cracka".
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 16, 2010 10:00 AM (r1h5M)
"Feed him to the pigs, Errol."
What are you afraid of Tommy? Ze Germans?
Posted by: Ben at July 16, 2010 10:00 AM (wuv1c)
Wonder what the breakdown is by race and gender? Bet we won't be able to find that info.
Posted by: curious at July 16, 2010 10:00 AM (p302b)
127 120 103 I hope that your sister stays safe while she is over there. I don't have any trust in the stability of that part of the world right now.
She is safe. Thankfully, she'll also be home before the vote. (They're expecting some violence as a result of the constiution.)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at July 16, 2010 10:01 AM (/h097)
Posted by: DJIA at July 16, 2010 10:02 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Cincinnatus at July 16, 2010 10:02 AM (TGmQa)
Unless my wife's family can't stand me, "Gringo" is not a racist pejorative in fact its increasingly being used as a term of endearment. Like a lot of spanish and english for that matter it depends on the context and tone of the conversation.
Posted by: dananjcon at July 16, 2010 01:57 PM (pr+up)
They might like you, but they don't respect you. Do you also believe that pendejo could be a term of endearment depending on how they say it?
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at July 16, 2010 10:02 AM (oIp16)
In that case, I'm taking "taco-bender" back out for a spin. It just means an appreciation of another culture's contribution to American cuisine, right? Right?
Posted by: sifty at July 16, 2010 10:02 AM (BItlo)
hey how nice of Apple, they are offering you a ten cent piece of plastic and a note that says, "Thanks for waiting in line for 7 hours for a defective phone, how do our balls taste".
Congrats Apple, destroy a following that took yout 20 years to build over you desire to not make your customers whole.
Posted by: Ben at July 16, 2010 01:59 PM (wuv1c)"
I think stevie, who had to cut short his vacay in hawaii, reacted emotionally. I'm really believing that he did write that email where he said "it's just a phone, spend time with your family". I know quite a few fanboys and girls who are really pissed now.....you know the ones who called him and said "hey there's a problem but it is controlled with the bumper".
It's sort of a challenge....guess woz said it all yesterday....
Posted by: curious at July 16, 2010 10:03 AM (p302b)
Posted by: joncelli at July 16, 2010 10:05 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: joncelli at July 16, 2010 02:05 PM (RD7QR)"
he had to get this over with before tuesday..my friends are too funny...one of my friends tweeted..."f**K you all, I gave you the greatest phone on earth and you ingrates don't appreciate me or it, what, over a few dropped calls"...and then he added....he sounds like my wife complaining that i'm not paying enough attention to her....
Posted by: curious at July 16, 2010 10:07 AM (p302b)
73 One of my main problems with conservatives is that they get angry at racial comments from nonwhites; not because they're offended by the comments, but because they're jealous that they're not allowed to use them anymore too.
No.
It's that if we WERE to use one, we'd get crucified, while it seems to be encouraged and acceptable when others do it. I don't want to be "allowed" to use them, I want the punishment and disdain to be equal across the board.
Posted by: Luca Brasi at July 16, 2010 10:08 AM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: Hiester Clymer (D) PA, Committee on Appropriations at July 16, 2010 10:12 AM (kb0wl)
Posted by: Jean at July 16, 2010 10:13 AM (xsupj)
Unless my wife's family can't stand me, "Gringo" is not a racist pejorative in fact its increasingly being used as a term of endearment. Like a lot of spanish and english for that matter it depends on the context and tone of the conversation.
Posted by: dananjcon at July 16, 2010 01:57 PM (pr+up)
They might like you, but they don't respect you. Do you also believe that pendejo could be a term of endearment depending on how they say it?
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at July 16, 2010 02:02 PM (oIp16)
They respect me plenty, our families have been through alot the past 4yrs and have become very close. Again, depending on the tone of the conversation...I call my father-in law pendejo when joking around just like I call my high school buddies jack-off or shit head.
Posted by: dananjcon at July 16, 2010 10:14 AM (pr+up)
Posted by: curious at July 16, 2010 02:07 PM (p302b)
Greatest tweet line of all time... maybe (is he a liberal?)
Posted by: Editor at July 16, 2010 10:14 AM (pUfK9)
Posted by: joncelli at July 16, 2010 10:15 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Truman North at July 16, 2010 10:16 AM (3h3kv)
Posted by: curious at July 16, 2010 10:16 AM (p302b)
I don't know what to think about Breitbart's aggressive attitude, except that it's better than any alternative I can think of.
One of the many reasons that I like Breitbart is that after he's done pounding someone into the dirt, he disappears without a peep for awhile.
Next thing you know BAM! He drops out of the ceiling with a 20 pound hammer and starts in on some dipshit or dipshits again.
Posted by: ErikW at July 16, 2010 10:16 AM (Qer5m)
Posted by: sifty at July 16, 2010 02:02 PM (BItlo)
Absolutely. Let's not forget that all Mexican women just love it when you use the word "puta" as a loving term of endearment. Try this phrase out at your next family get togeather with the in-laws.
Me estoy putiando a tu hermana
Not only will they apperciate your desire to share their beautiful language and culture, it will let them know that you are getting your money's worth from the Mrs.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at July 16, 2010 10:17 AM (oIp16)
It's sort of a challenge....guess woz said it all yesterday....
I don't own one, however If I were an apple guy I would consider not buying anymore products.
You spend thousands of dollars on their products and the admit they put out a lemon that has many problems, the biggest of which is its functionality as a phone, and they essentially tell you to go pound sand.
Complaining about a broken product isn't indicative of not having a life. If I buy a car with all the coolest gadgets and then it doesn't actually drive, then i'm going to be pretty pissed.
Apple needs to recall it and make the hardware fix. It is a company that has a lot of good will from customers based on its reputation for innovation and high quality products, why tarnish that reputation when it will only cost your company a couple hundred million to make the fix. Hell their stock has shed some 10 billion in value since this whole debacle began.
Posted by: Ben at July 16, 2010 10:18 AM (wuv1c)
Posted by: curious at July 16, 2010 02:07 PM (p302b)
Greatest tweet line of all time... maybe (is he a
liberal?)
Posted by: Editor at July 16, 2010 02:14 PM (pUfK9)"
you know I'm not sure. He is one of my oldest friends a true geek of the highest order, an engineer. But come to think of it, I'm reasonably certain he didn't vote for BO since he has tweeted about what "ol smoothy" is doing now...
Posted by: curious at July 16, 2010 10:21 AM (p302b)
Not only will they apperciate your desire to share their beautiful language and culture, it will let them know that you are getting your money's worth from the Mrs.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at July 16, 2010 02:17 PM (oIp16)
So is the "Dirty Sanchez" still in play?
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent - gas free, at this point at July 16, 2010 10:21 AM (YVZlY)
So is the "Dirty Sanchez" still in play?
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent - gas free, at this point at July 16, 2010 02:21 PM (YVZlY)
The classics never go out of style.
Posted by: Jim in San Diego at July 16, 2010 10:23 AM (oIp16)
On Wed night, CalGuns totally pwned the LCAV anti-gun fundraising dinner in Frisco. I hadn't been on CalGuns in a while, and then I find out about this. I'm pissed that I missed it.
A
little background: CG's forum is monitored very closely by all of the
anti-gun organizations, ATF, FBI and various other organizations.
This includes ATF and law enforcement moles who register and play
agent provocateur. Several have been caught out over the years,
mainly trying to entice CG members into illegal activity on the For
Sale section.
Knowing that everything on the site was
monitored, CG punked the Legal Community Against Violence Joyce
Foundation-funded anti-gun organization (and the SF city government),
and they did it WITHOUT LIFTING A FINGER. It's
epic.
http://tinyurl.com/27ke4zy
http://tinyurl.com/264mcb9
and
the original CalGuns thread.
http://tinyurl.com/29tqjyc
the
after-action report, including photos of the increased SFPD
security...for the 2A protesters that never intended to show up in
the first place.
http://tinyurl.com/2ao73aa
Considering
the fun that we had with The Hill and C&L over the last week, I
thought y'all might get a kick out of it.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 16, 2010 10:25 AM (P9+0W)
It's sort of a challenge....guess woz said it all yesterday....
I don't own one, however If I were an apple guy I would consider not buying anymore products.
You spend thousands of dollars on their products and the admit they put out a lemon that has many problems, the biggest of which is its functionality as a phone, and they essentially tell you to go pound sand.
Complaining about a broken product isn't indicative of not having a life. If I buy a car with all the coolest gadgets and then it doesn't actually drive, then i'm going to be pretty pissed.
Apple needs to recall it and make the hardware fix. It is a company that has a lot of good will from customers based on its reputation for innovation and high quality products, why tarnish that reputation when it will only cost your company a couple hundred million to make the fix. Hell their stock has shed some 10 billion in value since this whole debacle began.
Posted by: Ben at July 16, 2010 02:18 PM (wuv1c)"
I agree with you. I'm thinking of returning my phone. It is disappointing since they are literally sitting on billions in cash. It sort of shows how power can get to your head. And don't forget he is sort of having a little battle with our "goo" friends. I remember writing letter after letter asking why eric was on the board when he could in fact be a spy".......finally they realized this and off he went.
Trust me, I know this company inside and out..I lost a bet to one of my friends who emailed me "he's going to have the temerity to get up there and tell you how to hold the damn phone".....my friend was in essence right.
Posted by: curious at July 16, 2010 10:25 AM (p302b)
Unless my wife's family can't stand me, "Gringo" is not a racist pejorative in fact its increasingly being used as a term of endearment. Like a lot of spanish and english for that matter it depends on the context and tone of the conversation.
Posted by: dananjcon at July 16, 2010 01:57 PM (pr+up)
Gringo is a slur, anyway you slice it. The problem, though, is that anyone cares that someone else uses such slurs. They are nothing but meaningless words. I couldn't care less if someone called me "gringo". Frankly, I don't care what such people think of me, at all.
I'm a big Sticks and Stones person and just can't stand how everyone likes to act so "shocked" at slurs - as if they are one step below cutting someone's head off. Slurs are nothing. But the left has made them everything and much of the right has been dragged right along.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 16, 2010 10:29 AM (5TNVe)
Posted by: Truman North at July 16, 2010 02:16 PM (3h3kv)
Exactly...I tell my wife "her spic is showing" whis is silly cuz she is Chilean. I also break her chops by telling her she is speaking spanglish when she speaks perfect English with no accent...I'm simply ignoring her cause she talks waaaay too much.
Posted by: dananjcon at July 16, 2010 10:30 AM (pr+up)
Posted by: curious at July 16, 2010 10:30 AM (p302b)
So,yes, the term "gringo" is indeed xenophobic at the very root of its origins.
Posted by: Ben at July 16, 2010 10:35 AM (bHhXo)
His brief — inarguably racist — shout of “Go home wetbacks!” is provably a video from 2006.
Even aside from other problems, how is "Go home, wetbacks!" inarguably racist, anyway? This is the sort of disingenuous complaint that makes the whole situation beyond ridiculous.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 16, 2010 10:35 AM (5TNVe)
Posted by: A determined alcoholic at July 16, 2010 10:37 AM (w9bVp)
(Screw you big Sis, I only went because of that bullshit DHS memo that got released.)
Aaaand....
THIS
Just 'cos I got lucky and captured something really beautiful whilst snapping away at an obvious target. (look in the background, barefoot little pig-tailed girl, running joyously to catch Daddy's hand).
Posted by: Deety snapping pics with her little camera at July 16, 2010 10:37 AM (aVzyR)
If they call you cunado it means they want to fuck your sister.
Be careful if they call you primo.
Posted by: A determined alcoholic at July 16, 2010 02:37 PM (w9bVp)
Very arab-like. Arabs like to say "Coos Ochtahk" and "Coos Emak" to refer to the privates of your sister and mother. Very strong stuff in the middle east, where a slight glance by a girl can get her head handed to her ... literally..
Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 16, 2010 10:39 AM (5TNVe)
I have to disagree. FWIW, my T9 opinion is neutral.
Even Wiki seems to be trying to cover up the source of the word "gringo". Wiki spends more than a few sentences, on "griego" and that it predates the existence of the US as a nation, or that "gingo" is not necessarily a perjorative, or that it isn't at all, or something.
I don't buy the derivation from "griego"; I think that there are no linguistic theories that will support a change from "griego" to "gringo".
But read the Wiki section "In English". Pay attention to the comment by Audubon, and the section "Origin from Henry VIII's Song "Green Grows the Holly" and Variants".
Now say it out loud: "Green Grow the ..." --> "Grin Gro" ('i' as in -ing)--> "Gringro" --> "gringo" ......
This looks to be the correct explanation for the source and intended meaning of "gringo". If it isn't, then a satisfactory counter-argument needs to be made.
Posted by: Arbalest at July 16, 2010 10:43 AM (3foPD)
Posted by: curious at July 16, 2010 10:45 AM (p302b)
After reading an article that someone linked to on the problem there can be no "fix" for this under a recall. It would require a complete redesign and replacement of the antenna system.
I can't believe they designed it the way they did. Whoever did that had to be totally ignorant of RF.
Also, this lame "case" idea is just another way of saying "duct tape".
Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2010 10:58 AM (/jbAw)
Posted by: curious at July 16, 2010 02:45 PM (p302b)
Silly you. Fritos are in the same category as crackas.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 16, 2010 10:59 AM (5TNVe)
Posted by: JEA at July 16, 2010 11:02 AM (WGbtD)
Cracker wasn't a racial pejorative initially either. It started as "Georgia Cracker" and it referred to the people whose staple diet was "cracked corn" in the early days of GA when it was being settled by the inmates of the debtors prisons.
It was an "economic pejorative" if anything.
But having said all that these words to get co-opted over time and can become racial pejoratives through usage.
After all, the one that is currently considered the worst racial slur didn't start as a racial slur to begin with either (the N-word)
Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2010 11:02 AM (/jbAw)
-->Wow, this is serious.
Ooooh. name calling. Ooooooh.
-->I know this is a minor detail and all, but other than people saying this is a fake, does anybody have something like, oh I don't know...proof?
Posted by: JEA at July 16, 2010 03:02 PM (WGbtD)
Proof of what? That the tea parties aren't racist, aren't organized around race (unlike the left, the dems and The Precedent) and have nothing racist about them? Go to one and see. The proof is all over.
As to proof that the left are nothing but despicable, lying scumbags ... that's all over the place, too. You people can't hide the disgusting sewage that comprises your personalities. That's why you're leftists, after all.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 16, 2010 11:11 AM (5TNVe)
Oh, my uterus!
Honestly, one of my all-time favorite memories is one of my sister's kids running up to me, baby doll in hand, saying, "Aunt Filly, will you hold me and Baby?"
sniffle
Posted by: Filly at July 16, 2010 11:12 AM (c9jHO)
Zzzzzzzzz...
...
Zzzzzzzzzz...
*snrk*
Man, leave me alone...I had to get up way early to go fight those crazy crackers on Fox this morning...
Zzzzzz...
Posted by: The Honorable Reverend Al Sharpton at July 16, 2010 11:21 AM (sPO/s)
What, prove a negative?
ThinkProgress is the one making the assertion that the Tea Party is racist. THEY are the ones that have an obligation to back up their own allegation with proof that isn't faked.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 16, 2010 11:22 AM (P9+0W)
If the NAACP President said "Well done, Americans! Not a racist among the lot of you", he'd have to go find a REAL job. One that didn't include invites to all the snobbiest cocktail parties...
Same with the Sierra Club, NOW, the UN HRC, you name it
Posted by: Drumwaster at July 16, 2010 11:22 AM (dWFSK)
"ThinkProgress is the one making the assertion that the Tea Party is racist. THEY are the ones that have an obligation to back up their own allegation with proof that isn't faked."
No, not really moron. Pajamas Media need to prove the accusations they made. Just like liberals had to prove O'Keefe's videos were fake after they accused him (which they haven't done YET). That's how it works.
Posted by: JEA at July 16, 2010 11:26 AM (WGbtD)
"Aunt Filly"
Even your own relatives don't know your real name?
Oh, yeah. When you're a literary writer and a teacher of Teh College, you can't even trust the three-year-olds. Being outed as a filthy raaaaaaaaciiiiiiiist conservative is tenure and publication death.
Posted by: Filly at July 16, 2010 11:29 AM (c9jHO)
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at July 16, 2010 12:55 PM (eubBM)
From my garden http://tinyurl.com/23tyow7
Posted by: sock puppeh at July 16, 2010 11:33 AM (VcPAo)
Posted by: sock puppeh at July 16, 2010 11:35 AM (VcPAo)
"Being outed as a filthy raaaaaaaaciiiiiiiist conservative is tenure and publication death."
You're doing it wrong.
Posted by: Professor William Ayers at July 16, 2010 11:46 AM (sPO/s)
Posted by: dum blond at July 16, 2010 11:56 AM (gbCNS)
I also have a question-- does Congress have the power to legislate bankruptcy?
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at July 16, 2010 01:58 PM (/h097)
yes
Posted by: sock puppeh at July 16, 2010 11:56 AM (VcPAo)
Posted by: lowfibass at July 16, 2010 12:24 PM (T1ZAZ)
Not according to the article I read. According to the article they made the phone's antenna a piece of SS band around the edge of the case. When you hold the phone in your hand it grounds out the antenna and kills reception and transmission.
If you are sitting right next to a transmission tower you may still get a bar or two but now if you are away from the tower.
It is a real piss poor design and there is no easy fix for it.
Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2010 12:52 PM (/jbAw)
Not according to the article I read. According to the article they made the phone's antenna a piece of SS band around the edge of the case. When you hold the phone in your hand it grounds out the antenna and kills reception and transmission.
If you are sitting right next to a transmission tower you may still get a bar or two but now if you are away from the tower.
It is a real piss poor design and there is no easy fix for it.
Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2010 04:52 PM (/jbAw)
As someone already said, whoever designed this doesn't know squat about RF. Indeed, the "fix" is basically doing what should have been done in the first place, which is insulating the antenna from outside contacts (like the user's frigging hand, for chrissakes).
Posted by: Cave Bear at July 16, 2010 01:24 PM (WmZrs)
Actually even doing that is not a real "fix". You still will get some inductive coupling between your hand and the antenna and will lose some of the signal. There is a reason that most phones and radios use that little rubber coated coil thingy sticking out of the top as an antenna.
That is why the duct tape and vinyl case solutions are really poor solutions. My recommendation for all the Morons is to avoid this phone like the plague.
(and that was me who said whoever designed that antenna didn't know shit about RF in another thread).
Posted by: Vic at July 16, 2010 01:30 PM (/jbAw)
How are Think Progress' actions any different than the Nixon dirty tricks squad? Why isn't the Tea Party movement pursuing legal action to take down this illegitimate organization and bring to the light of day its tactics of defamation of character, slander and antitrust violations? Once brought out and having the full measure of the law applied to these clowns- hopefully bankrupting them financially and morally- the left will think twice when planting future astroturf...
Posted by: petard hoister at July 16, 2010 01:36 PM (SwE/v)
Posted by: dorkafork at July 16, 2010 03:50 PM (npEqZ)
@34: "We pointed at all of these people and just laughed at them."
Your problem was not beating them to the edge of unconsciousness. And really, it's win/win: they get to provoke you like they were hoping to, and you get to beat them.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at July 16, 2010 04:44 PM (ySNz/)
@65: "I am starting to think there is a correlation between the response of the American people and what is going on with iphone4. I know so many people who have the phone and are vociferously complaining to their friends. Oddly enough, no one has complained to apple. It's almost like the passing of the HC bill took away America's voice."
They've probably figured out that talking to Apple and talking to the gummint yield approximately the same result - a powerful entity effectively telling you to go fuck yourself. Neither exists to serve the populace, the populace exists to provide them with money.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at July 16, 2010 04:54 PM (ySNz/)
Posted by: Dw Pepper at July 16, 2010 05:23 PM (0Gjtg)
Oh, yeah. When you're a literary writer and a
teacher of Teh College, you can't even trust the three-year-olds. Being
outed as a filthy raaaaaaaaciiiiiiiist conservative is tenure and
publication death.
Posted by: Filly at July 16, 2010 03:29 PM (c9jHO)
What a world we live in. I bet you're not kidding, though.
Posted by: Merovign, Strong on His Mountain at July 16, 2010 06:01 PM (bxiXv)
I wish I were. I'm playing it on the dangerous side by making no secret of the fact that I'm a practicing Cath-o-lick. And the worst damage I experienced from this was at a (supposedly) Catholic college.
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