September 02, 2010
— Ace Genuinely.
"I love what I'm getting out of you, Blue Cougar!"
Obviously, I agree wholeheartedly. I always find a danger with conservatives is this: Because we all sort of... are rejectivists of the system, we sort of have a distaste for conventional politics, we look down on that as sort of join-ey, something liberal.
We sort of want to engage in para-politics, something akin to politics but not actually part of the political process. As the ad mentions: Writin' emails. Lettin' liberals know our home is our castle.
I asked my friend steve_in_hb why he never voted, despite having some fairly firm political beliefs, and I think he encapsulated the rejectivist conservative opinion on this pretty succinctly. He said:
"Voting is for fags."
And it's one of those jokes, you know, like most jokes: Yes, it's a joke. Yes, his tongue is firmly in cheek. Yes, he was just trying to get a laughing rise out of me (and succeeded).
But yes: It is also sort of true.
Now, in a serious way, he wouldn't say this; but he would say something about the pointlessness of a corrupt system and so on.
This is always, always a danger for conservatives, and what keeps our representation below what it ought to be: a rejectivism that leads many to not even bother to vote at all, despite having very, very strong opinions about which candidate ought to win what race.
Friends, the time for living off the political grid is over. It's time to engage.
Voting is a right won for us by force of arms, by the blood and courage of strong men, and a responsibility passed down to us from them, our debt back to them. We honor them by voting and we dishonor them by standing on the sidelines, passively allowing our political destinies to be determined by other people.
Good men died for this right, and killed for it. It is precious as blood. It's not to be cast aside as a cheap bauble.
I really do read too many people expounding on the Constitution and then, when asked, stating that voting is beneath their dignity.
I don't know. Seems to me there's a major disconnect there. Unless you've earned the right by other means (such as serving the country's armed forces), I'm really not sure you've earned the right to disclaim about the Constitution if you can't even be bothered to take a ten minute trip to the post office and sign up to be counted as a Citizen of the United States of America.
Ah: A way to put steve's joke is this: Voting is for goody-goods who believe in "civic duty" and all that rot.
Conservatives, often, are very anti-bullshit; they like cutting bullshit out of their lives. But for too many, they toss "voting" into the bullshit column (and then wonder how we wind up with the Mensa Chapter Presidents we call Senators).
Conservatives like to style themselves (and frequently are) rebels, sort of outlaws, sort of loose cannon mavericks who play by their own rules and get their badges and guns taken away every week from their constipated Sergeant when they blow up a truck full of liquid nitrogen in pursuit of a hot-rod smugging Krugerrands and sex-slaves.
And then that leads to showing "rebellion" by not participating in voting.
I think what this ad is getting at isn't portraying conservatives as bumpkins, but this sort of Rebel Without a Voter Card as a bumpkin, a bumpkin who's deluding himself into thinking he's actually "teaching the system a lesson" by writin' emails and otherwise consigning himself to political irrelevancy.
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Posted by: Vic at September 02, 2010 11:07 AM (/jbAw)
Posted by: Serious Cat at September 02, 2010 11:08 AM (bAySe)
Umm, no.
I'll get bitch-slapped for this, but why? Not a smart ad.
I mean they already paint us as slack-jawed hilljacks. Why give them the ammo?
Posted by: laceyunderalls at September 02, 2010 11:08 AM (pLTLS)
Posted by: Y-not at September 02, 2010 11:09 AM (osFsP)
From the sidebar, this wonderful tale of the reconquista.
http://www.washingtontimes.com /news/2010/aug/31/signs-in-arizona-warn -of-smuggler-dangers/print/
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Unfuckingreal. We have no-go zones in our own country. When will we start with teh IEDs and no-fly zones over Mexico
THis sounds one hell of a lot like war has been declared by the drug runners.
Posted by: s'moron at September 02, 2010 11:09 AM (UaxA0)
Posted by: ace at September 02, 2010 11:11 AM (QbA6l)
Depends where it's running, I think.
The NRA has to maintain a non-partisan stance, but by doing the ad this way the audience can self-identify. I guarantee no Obama supporter will even watch this ad.
Posted by: Y-not at September 02, 2010 11:11 AM (osFsP)
Wang Dang Sweet Poontang
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 02, 2010 11:12 AM (P9+0W)
10 even worse
yahoo news shows that sheriff joe (the real one, not the guy playing with his poo) is getting sued by the feds and if you read towards the bottom, it is being instigated by some 'immigration rights' group
pathetic
Posted by: navycopjoe at September 02, 2010 11:12 AM (gg4j2)
You got lead in that ammo, teabagger?
Posted by: The EPA at September 02, 2010 11:12 AM (FkKjr)
Posted by: mpfs at September 02, 2010 11:12 AM (iYbLN)
If you want to direct who is in charge of candidate selection and who sets up the conventions and primaries where candidates are selected, then you have to be in the party. Simple, really. If you aren't in the club you can't put a motion on the floor or vote against a motion. If you aren't in the party, you don't get to select the candidates you want.
So simple even a moron can do it.
Posted by: Mikey NTH at September 02, 2010 11:13 AM (O9Cc8)
I mean they already paint us as slack-jawed hilljacks. Why give them the ammo?
Posted by: laceyunderalls at September 02, 2010 03:08 PM (pLTLS)
Well, it is an ad to get out the vote. If it makes Bobos and other assorted leftwingers think that voting is some yokel thing, well, isn't the ad doing double duty by depressing leftwing votes?
Posted by: 18-1 at September 02, 2010 11:14 AM (7BU4a)
I would say they're trying to portray those who opt out of actual voting in favor of "para-politics" as I term it as kind of, well, dimwitted and ineffectual.
I agree with that.
But, as Y-Not has said, it depends on where it's being ran. I think your point is highly nuanced. Almost a reverse psychology. Not to bash the electorate, oh what the hay!, our electorate is comprised of functional retards that TiVo Jersey Shore to see what the little cum dumpster Snookie's up to this week.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at September 02, 2010 11:14 AM (pLTLS)
Posted by: John P. Squibob at September 02, 2010 11:14 AM (/U/Mr)
From the sidebar, this wonderful tale of the reconquista.
We really do need a revived Un-American Activities Committee.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 02, 2010 11:14 AM (ujg0T)
Umm, no.
I'll get bitch-slapped for this, but why? Not a smart ad.
I mean they already paint us as slack-jawed hilljacks. Why give them the ammo?
Posted by: laceyunderalls at September 02, 2010 03:08 PM (pLTLS)
I AM a hillbilly, and guess what, I ain't ashamed of it. Hillbillies make great soldiers, and are patriotic to a fault. Why should I deny my heritage? The "sophisticates" you seem to admire are mostly fucking statists, like Da Zero. I don't want to associate with them or be compared to them.
Posted by: maddogg at September 02, 2010 11:15 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: real joe at September 02, 2010 11:15 AM (IpIBJ)
Posted by: ace at September 02, 2010 11:15 AM (QbA6l)
Posted by: ace
If a car jack raises a car, then what does a hilljack raise?
Posted by: hapless straightman at September 02, 2010 11:16 AM (R2fpr)
Posted by: t-bird at September 02, 2010 11:16 AM (FcR7P)
It's a funny ad.
Possibly even effective.
Posted by: BumperStickerist at September 02, 2010 11:17 AM (Hj0nA)
I AM a hillbilly, and guess what, I ain't ashamed of it. Hillbillies make great soldiers, and are patriotic to a fault. Why should I deny my heritage? The "sophisticates" you seem to admire are mostly fucking statists, like Da Zero. I don't want to associate with them or be compared to them.
The "Yankee Doodle Effect", if you will. Let us wear our anti-Leftist elite badge with pride.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 02, 2010 11:17 AM (ujg0T)
Posted by: kathysaysso at September 02, 2010 11:17 AM (ZtwUX)
The "sophisticates" you seem to admire are mostly fucking statists, like Da Zero.
Wow.
So there's no middle ground here? Because I don't think mullet pot-bellied hicks make for great comedy I surely must admire 'sophisitiated statists'?
One helluva leap, friend.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at September 02, 2010 11:17 AM (pLTLS)
Posted by: Crusty at September 02, 2010 11:18 AM (GvSpB)
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Posted by: AE at September 02, 2010 11:18 AM (1bZ96)
This is why we have a lot of lousy candidates, especially in blue states. We're the party of limited government yet candidates have to want to be part of the "System" in order to run for office, so a lot of times we get squishy douchebags who bail when they don't get their way.
Posted by: Dr Spank at September 02, 2010 11:19 AM (xtAfO)
Such words came out of my long passed, mother, grandfather and great aunts. And I've followed them ever since.
Posted by: John P. Squibob at September 02, 2010 11:20 AM (/U/Mr)
Posted by: AngelEm at September 02, 2010 11:22 AM (I2Yog)
Posted by: maddogg at September 02, 2010 11:22 AM (OlN4e)
Well then (snif) don't expect to be invited to the right cocktail parties on the Upper East Side and the Hamptons.
Posted by: the new york times at September 02, 2010 11:23 AM (IpIBJ)
Posted by: Serious Cat at September 02, 2010 03:08 PM (bAySe)
Harris-Kratovil is the only race that is even competitive in this Socialist working paradise of MD. I'm sure that the good Rev Elijah Cummings will pull in around 116% of the vote in his district. Douchenozzle Hoyer brings home the bacon to Southern MD so he isn't going anywhere. I wish that they could run anyone against the fat disappearing act that is Dutch Ruppersburger.
Posted by: Hedgehog at September 02, 2010 11:23 AM (oQIfB)
The "Yankee Doodle Effect", if you will. Let us wear our anti-Leftist elite badge with pride.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 02, 2010 03:17 PM (ujg0T)
I know I do.
Posted by: ErikW at September 02, 2010 11:23 AM (4R2TR)
NASCAR is one hellova lot bigger than Wimbledon in the US of A.
And? March Madness is bigger than both combined for five years running.
Again, there can be a middle ground.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at September 02, 2010 11:24 AM (pLTLS)
What is the use of being the party with all the balls if all our men and women simper around like Richard Simmons?
Embarrassed emo liberals that mummy and duddy didn't hug stay home on election day and cut themselves while huffing glue. So shine every light you can on their lunacy. Point and laugh.
Posted by: sifty at September 02, 2010 11:24 AM (PJJWW)
Posted by: ace at September 02, 2010 11:24 AM (QbA6l)
I mean they already paint us as slack-jawed hilljacks. Why give them the ammo?
Posted by: laceyunderalls at September 02, 2010 03:08 PM (pLTLS)
It's a nice parody of what "our betters" believe
..own it..have fun with it...laugh at them
Posted by: beedubya at September 02, 2010 11:24 AM (AnTyA)
Posted by: AngelEm at September 02, 2010 11:25 AM (I2Yog)
Posted by: sifty at September 02, 2010 11:25 AM (PJJWW)
Posted by: AngelEm at September 02, 2010 11:25 AM (I2Yog)
>>Well then (snif) don't expect to be invited to the right cocktail parties on the Upper East Side and the Hamptons.
Gee, I had not considered that. Guess they will just have to miss out on my deer hunting stories...
Posted by: maddogg at September 02, 2010 11:25 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: real joe at September 02, 2010 11:27 AM (IpIBJ)
Posted by: Fritz at September 02, 2010 11:27 AM (GwPRU)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at September 02, 2010 11:27 AM (tf9Ne)
Posted by: Adrian at September 02, 2010 11:28 AM (wEX+X)
Posted by: the new york times at September 02, 2010 03:23 PM (IpIBJ)
Y'all have any them mini-weenies at that thar thang?
Posted by: Slack-jawed Yokel at September 02, 2010 11:29 AM (5qJM5)
Posted by: ace at September 02, 2010 03:15 PM (QbA6l)
I don't have TiVo (or any DVR) and I vote!
Posted by: Editor at September 02, 2010 11:31 AM (pUfK9)
as in Louise from the "Harry and Louise" commericials from the 1990s which helped defeat HillaryCare
Coincidence?
I think not.
wheels within bigger wheels within even bigger wheels.
Posted by: BumperStickerist at September 02, 2010 11:32 AM (Hj0nA)
So there's no middle ground here? Because I don't think mullet pot-bellied hicks make for great comedy I surely must admire 'sophisitiated statists'?
One helluva leap, friend.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at September 02, 2010 03:17 PM (pLTLS)
Whoa, slow down. This ad is very CLEARLY geared towards men. So, target audience hit. Non-target audience missed. Seems like a good shot.
Posted by: Editor at September 02, 2010 11:33 AM (pUfK9)
Chuck Norris and Ted Nugent (which from the end music of the ad was likely involved) have their own base they'd like to get to the polls to vote against the dems. That base by the way includes a lot of hunters that are also union members. The ad will likely appeal to them.
Exactly. With all due respect to those who don't like this ad, it will pull in the right voters.
Can they put this in heavy rotation on the Outdoor Channel?
Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 02, 2010 11:33 AM (ujg0T)
Posted by: maddogg at September 02, 2010 11:35 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Council for Everybody! Votes at September 02, 2010 11:35 AM (Hj0nA)
What about the karate teacher from Napoleon Dynamite? He'd make a great ad!
This ad has that vibe mashed up with Larry the Cable Guy and top with the Ted.
Posted by: Atomic Roach at September 02, 2010 11:35 AM (rMMMP)
Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom at September 02, 2010 11:36 AM (pyW1N)
Despite feelings of futility when voting, I have voted in every election since I turned 18 and will continue to vote until I die. (And probably after I die, too. Um, can someone make sure that I still vote R when I'm dead? Thanks.)
I hear you--especially on the Left Coast. That said, I do know people with "voter's block", namely, the attempt, however futile, to register disgust with the system by simply not voting. Hopefully an ad like this gets through to those people.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at September 02, 2010 11:40 AM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Skip Intro at September 02, 2010 11:40 AM (8u/pG)
Posted by: real joe at September 02, 2010 11:41 AM (IpIBJ)
Posted by: Skip Intro at September 02, 2010 11:41 AM (8u/pG)
I enjoy voting because it's one of the few ways I have of giving the finger to politicians I can't stand. My vote for *shudder* McCain was really a vote against Obama.
And since I live in MA I get a charge out of knowing that I am at least cancelling out some bonehead liberal.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 02, 2010 11:47 AM (VW9/y)
Posted by: curious at September 02, 2010 11:49 AM (p302b)
Posted by: curious at September 02, 2010 11:50 AM (p302b)
Remember back about five years ago, when the joke was that conservatives didn't protest because we have jobs..and families...and lives? Well, the joke was on us! All those loud-mouthed progressives got their way, didn't they? And we get the bill, didn't we?
I've learned that politics is like your kid's education or the neighborhood planning committee. You have to show up, get involved, fill out the right forms, play the game, and get in people's faces (politely for the most part, but sometimes, like when your kid is stuck with a lousy teacher, not so politely)
I went to my first protest (a tea party thing) last year, and I didn't even get there until it was over! I don't like demonstrations, but I am going to make a point of going to one in the next two months.
I used to think it was enough to vote, but now I see that is not enough. I have to get at least one other like-minded individual to get to the polls. I dread the idea of getting involved with some Republican GOTV effort, but I am going to do it anyway. Ditto with donating Just like throwing something in the Church basket. Gotta do it or the Church bills don't get paid.
And the second lesson I learned is that I have to keep it up. You don't lose weight and stop just dieting. You have to change your eating habits permanently. So I have to make a permanent change in my political habits as well. Every election, get another voter to the polls and throw a few bucks in the kitty. Every year, attend a political rally.
Boring Boring Boring. Necessary Necessary Necessary.
Because the alternative is to suck it up and live with other people's choices
Posted by: Sweet Lou at September 02, 2010 11:56 AM (irk3g)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at September 02, 2010 12:02 PM (61b7k)
It's like you're spying on me, man.
You're not, right? 'Cause then there's going to be trouble.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 02, 2010 12:12 PM (swuwV)
Um, can someone make sure that I still vote R when I'm dead?
No can do. Necro-Americans are more solidly Democrat than blacks.
Posted by: Damn Skippy at September 02, 2010 12:22 PM (VDgKF)
Posted by: reason at September 02, 2010 12:32 PM (kZVsz)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 02, 2010 12:45 PM (eOXTH)
Voting is for people with something on the line. It's the looters and whiners that turn out.
We tend to think government ought to leave us alone. Regrettably, that same (right) impulse compels us to return the favor.
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Posted by: Ed Wallis at September 02, 2010 03:51 PM (TfkuT)
Based upon what do you come to this conclusion? Their deliberate choice to read a political blog? Their interest in politics? What makes you figure more than one out of ten of your hundred thousand or more readers just doesn't bother to vote?
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