February 14, 2010

Those Who Served, Seek to Serve Again
— Dave in Texas

LauraW asked us if this is kinda unprecedented, a groundswell of former Soldiers, Airmen, Sailors and Marines seeking public office.

It's not, but it's been so long since we've seen it, it feels new.

Indiana's 9th congressional district, former Marine Todd Young.

Check out his "who's me" page. Marine Captain who hates irresponsible spending.

Ooorah. (corrected, also thanks to Krukke1 for the link)

Posted by: Dave in Texas at 04:32 PM | Comments (73)
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1 The Other McCain had a video of a vet from Texas who drove up to Boston to help Brown. He said he had to get off the couch and he felt like he let his country down.

Posted by: madamex at February 14, 2010 04:37 PM (YS0e/)

2

you forgot to mention his bio: marine, quantico, anti-terror intelligence. He's freaking James Bond. My skirt may never dry out.

Can you imagine some douchebag like Reid meeting him in the parking lot on the hill? Reid pees down his leg in fear just thinking about it. Heh.

Posted by: Krukke1 at February 14, 2010 04:37 PM (sB2mH)

3

With all of the veterans running for office or challenging (D) and RINO (R) incumbents how long before the left starts crying that this is a defacto military coup?

Posted by: Blazer at February 14, 2010 04:37 PM (t72+4)

4
Isaiah 6:8

Posted by: Dang Straights at February 14, 2010 04:38 PM (JUyOz)

5 Entirely off subject--does anybody know how much amperage a trolling motor takes?

Posted by: Horatius at February 14, 2010 04:42 PM (PkF0W)

6 Oooorah, DiT, not Ooooray. Ooooray sounds like something an AF recruit would say.

Posted by: Bill H at February 14, 2010 04:42 PM (q8CmE)

7

O/T -- Just saw this.  NJ Tea Partiers raising hell in court about their right to recall Bob Menendez.  This could be big.

http://tinyurl.com/y9t7nbl

 

Posted by: RushBabe at February 14, 2010 04:42 PM (LKkE8)

8 Those Who Served, Seek to Serve Again
Makes a very good sidebar - what vets are running for office - Fed& State level?

Posted by: Druid at February 14, 2010 04:43 PM (Gct7d)

9

Military service is a fantastic introduction to wasteful government spending. 

You only need to be remotely familiar with the purcahsing and contracting system and annual budget justification to be appalled. 

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 14, 2010 04:44 PM (U37Ux)

10 Wasn't it the case for years after WWII that military service was a defacto prerequisite for political office? Lasted pretty much up to the Vietnam era, and was the only reason a lot of assclowns with political ambitions signed up (does the name John Kerry ring any bells?).

Posted by: gebrauchshund at February 14, 2010 04:44 PM (ZTGFz)

11 Nice. These vets understand protecting the Constitution. Warms the heart. There is hope, people.

Posted by: Vet Missing Parts at February 14, 2010 04:45 PM (MCHyX)

12  Entirely off subject--does anybody know how much amperage a trolling motor takes?

Posted by: Horatius at February 14, 2010 08:42 PM (PkF0W)

Damn- there isn't supposed to be any math! Educated guess, considering it's just a simple fishing boat, 25-30 startup, 10-15 underway. 12VDC motor, right? Lemme see if I can look it up, Horatius, I'll get back to you on this thread.

Posted by: Bill H at February 14, 2010 04:47 PM (q8CmE)

13 Like Murtha? He was a military advocate, according to the MSTM. Except    when  he was calling them war criminals.

Posted by: 48%er at February 14, 2010 04:47 PM (Nu1ow)

14 10 John Kerry, Isn't he French?

Posted by: USA at February 14, 2010 04:47 PM (dLwLd)

15 LauraW asked us if this is kinda unprecedented


I think the word "unprecedented" is a little bit over-the-top.

Posted by: Barry at February 14, 2010 04:48 PM (5I0Yr)

16 The one thing that should give all of us hope (BTW I'm starting to hate the word 'hope' - just because of the associations involved) is that the citizenry of this country has always risen to meet (and defeat) those who would tear us down or destroy us..

It is so exhilarating to see the next generation (e.g. Todd Young - USMC) carrying on the tradition....Thank you!

Posted by: alwyr at February 14, 2010 04:48 PM (w2++y)

17 I would make a change in the qualifications for President of the United States. 1 additional requirement: the candidate must be a combat veteran. Heinlein was quite correct in ST.

Posted by: Dr. Mario at February 14, 2010 04:49 PM (8sYvz)

18 He has a chance. Sodrel (pre-Baron Hill) was in lockstep with the Bush spending  spree during his tenure in the House. However, Sodrel's just got a bit of a reprieve.  Pence just endorsed Sodrel last week.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 14, 2010 04:49 PM (EoyPZ)

19 Don't forget Navy vet Dick Nixon, either!


Posted by: hope 'n' spare change at February 14, 2010 04:52 PM (e2hyp)

20

  Bush's spending spree looks like savings now.

Posted by: kansas at February 14, 2010 04:54 PM (kG2DU)

21 John Kerry, Isn't he French?

Haughty and French-looking, according to James Taranto.

Little known fact:  John Kerry's family (the Forbes', not of Malcolm Forbes, but the Big-Time Forbes') founded AT&T.  When you see references to him wind-surfing off Martha's Vineyard, he's actually wind-surfing from the private island owned by the extended Forbes family.  It's kind of like the Kennedy compound to a higher power.

Posted by: Winston Smith at February 14, 2010 04:57 PM (BFqyO)

22 Billl H, I thank you and look forward to the results.

On thread, it is my opinion people respect the service someone did until it gets in the way, at which point they don't. 

Posted by: Horatius at February 14, 2010 04:57 PM (PkF0W)

23 O/T: "Race became an issue in the Democratic primary for governor today.

Farouk Shami, the millionaire hair care products maker who's running, said he doesn't find many white people willing to work, so he says he hires Hispanics and blacks instead.

He made the comments responding to a question about whether the state should crack down on employers hiring illegal immigrants.

He also said he, too, would not disavow the conspiracy theory that the U.S. government was involved in the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

Republican gubernatorial candidate Debra Medina said on Thursday that she has questions whether the U.S. government was involved in the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, although she backpedaled from those remarks on Friday."

Posted by: curious at February 14, 2010 05:00 PM (p302b)

24 I hope the Indiana GOP has its act together after losing the state to Obama.

Steve Buyer (R-IN, 4th district) announced that he won't be seeking reelection.  His wife has a (terminal?) illness.  That's the district that includes Purdue down to northern Indianapolis. 

No Republican has announced yet.  So far the only candidate who's filed is an asshat biology professor (D, naturally) who has run and lost badly two times in a row.  R's better not lose that seat.

Posted by: Y-not at February 14, 2010 05:03 PM (X69zM)

25 O/T: "Race became an issue in the Democratic primary for governor today.

Farouk Shami, the millionaire hair care products maker who's running, said he doesn't find many white people willing to work, so he says he hires Hispanics and blacks instead.

He made the comments responding to a question about whether the state should crack down on employers hiring illegal immigrants.

He also said he, too, would not disavow the conspiracy theory that the U.S. government was involved in the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

Republican gubernatorial candidate Debra Medina said on Thursday that she has questions whether the U.S. government was involved in the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, although she backpedaled from those remarks on Friday."

Posted by: curious at February 14, 2010 09:00 PM (p302b)





I think what Mr. Shami meant was, he can't find many legal citizens who are willing to work for minimum wage, zero benefits and living quarters in the alley behind his production facility with a sign on it that says "This End Up".

Posted by: Blazer at February 14, 2010 05:04 PM (t72+4)

26 O/T, but more on the Kerry-Forbes thing:

http://bit.ly/AGQdt


Opium, shipping, railroads, and AT&T.  Old Boston Brahmins; made the Kennedys look like pikers.

Posted by: Winston Smith at February 14, 2010 05:06 PM (BFqyO)

27 O/T: Biden's motorcade involved in another accident

I think this is the third or fourth one. I know this isn't really his fault, but can you imagine the firestorm if this was Sarah Palin or Dick Cheney's motorcade? The jokes would be endless.

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b+tard at February 14, 2010 05:12 PM (NDj/7)

28 OK folks, I will not give any candidate a pass just because of their veteranishness. Need I point to Murtha and Cunningham?

Posted by: Pelayo at February 14, 2010 05:12 PM (8NGHm)

29 Horatius - if it isn't clearly marked on the motor or those markings are corroded beyond recognition I would move on to a newer model. Why do you need to know - are you using cables and battery kit not from the OEM?  I would recommend against that unless you really know what your doing.

I have a Minn Kota 34 (12V gel cell) - simple, cheap - basically keeps the boat in one spot if the wind is blowing.

Posted by: Jean at February 14, 2010 05:15 PM (CPefM)

30 Jean, thanks. As far as knowing what I am doing--well, I am an engineer. Naturally, that means I am most likely to royally goombah it up...though I did engineer a prototype marine electrical generator out of a prop and car alternator I rewired in college. Got an A in the course even, but in retrospect I think our grades should have been lower.

At any rate, I thank you. I just wanted to make sure someone else didn't run out of juice while trolling. Not that important. 

Posted by: Horatius at February 14, 2010 05:21 PM (PkF0W)

31

I think this is the third or fourth one. I know this isn't really his fault, but can you imagine the firestorm if this was Sarah Palin or Dick Cheney's motorcade? The jokes would be endless.

It's the Cheney curse.  He's going to have the secret service dig a moat around him. 

 

 

Posted by: NY Betsy Rose at February 14, 2010 05:21 PM (Qonp5)

32

LBJ had the Silver Star! Look up how he 'earned' it. You'll be so proud.

I'm sure this candidate is an ace dude. And I'm pleased to see recent veterans going into national politics, because I understand why they think they need to.

But don't be bullshitted. You'll also find the biggest, sleaziest commie bastids you've ever seen among the ranks of honorable dischargees. The mere fact that you've been in uniform does not make you a patriot, any more than a college degree makes you educated. And we have the incumbents to prove it.  

Posted by: comatus at February 14, 2010 05:21 PM (/VEEI)

33 Not at all unprecedented, true of many of the country's political leaders post-Revolution, Spanish-American War, WWI, but most notably post-Civil War and post-WWII.

Posted by: mrkwong at February 14, 2010 05:22 PM (iwC25)

34 27 O/T: Biden's motorcade involved in another accident


That's just unbelievable.  I have to believe that driving that dude around all the time is having a negative effect on the mental stability of his crew.

I know I lose brain cells just listening to his bullshit.

Posted by: Winston Smith at February 14, 2010 05:23 PM (BFqyO)

35 But don't be bullshitted. You'll also find the biggest, sleaziest commie bastids you've ever seen among the ranks of honorable dischargees


No lie.  Why, I even saw Gen. Wesley Clark on tv the other night.

Posted by: Winston Smith at February 14, 2010 05:25 PM (BFqyO)

36

meanwhile, it looks as if the AGW religion dying

http://tinyurl.com/yb2loyt

Posted by: Threadjacker at February 14, 2010 05:26 PM (C39a6)

37 #34 I notice more and more that when you are doing something with your heart not in it, mistakes as much more likely.

Posted by: ParisParamus at February 14, 2010 05:29 PM (2hhNv)

38 It was a matter of time. The two things that gave me hope for this country are the home schoolers and the soldiers returning from battle. We'll see if they can turn the tide or not. Certainly our best leaders seem to have come from WW2, but they're all too old now.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 14, 2010 05:30 PM (PQY7w)

39

Could Laura W link that guy she she showed us the other day? The dear sweet jesus .....

Posted by: dagny at February 14, 2010 05:33 PM (8Ujau)

40

O/T -- Just saw this.  NJ Tea Partiers raising hell in court about their right to recall Bob Menendez.  This could be big.

Posted by: RushBabe at February 14, 2010 08:42 PM (LKkE

That would be interesting if they succeeded. Almost every candidate for office runs to the right of how they govern. If federal recalls became a significant threat, it would make that strategy much less valuable - every time a Democrat "moderate" got elected they would have to consider how voting for something like socializing health care would work out among their voters.

It would certainly go far to address the current situation where the Dems ran supposed moderates in 2006 and 8, but no more then a handful have governed as such.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 14, 2010 05:35 PM (bgcml)

41

meanwhile, it looks as if the AGW religion dying

Posted by: Threadjacker at February 14, 2010 09:26 PM (C39a6)

So perhaps we really did hit a tipping point with the CRU emails. We've seen 'mistake' after 'mistake' identified in AGW 'proof', but it looks like the email revelation is what it took to get it in the press.

I wonder how this will play out in pop culture where AGW has become the primary issue that people are supposed to rally around - like AIDS was a decade ago.

I certainly hope this shows up as a wake up call to many of the kids HS/college who have been immersed in this crap. If they lie to you about AGW - what won't they deceive you about?

Posted by: 18-1 at February 14, 2010 05:38 PM (bgcml)

42 Combat veterans running for office?  Bully!!

Posted by: Teddy Roosevelt at February 14, 2010 05:39 PM (DTffv)

43 Horatius- a quick Google search turned up little in way of the specs you seek. Apparently, thrust is more of a concern than amperage draw. I did come up with this search, which has quite a bit. The Bass Pro Shops page seemed especially informative. To get this off-thread, you can contact me at mellon_man_billAThotmailDOTcom.

Posted by: Bill H at February 14, 2010 05:43 PM (q8CmE)

44 Dude, I just found Heaven:



Behold, BACON EXPLOSION!!!  HereÂ’s what youÂ’ll needÂ…

2 pounds thick cut bacon
2 pounds Italian sausage
1 jar of your favorite barbeque sauce
1 jar of your favorite bbq rub

I started searching bacon recipes when Kemp wrote about the maple apple bacon glazed doughnut.  Now I really want one.  Too bad I can't find a recipe.

Night guys.  Big snow for Ohio tomorrow.  Yest. morning they said at most 2 or 3 inches.  Now it is 6 - 10 inches (sounds like a man talking bout his junk.  He starts off short and sober, ends drunk and OMG! HUGE!





Posted by: momma at February 14, 2010 05:45 PM (penCf)

45

Threadjacker.  Therein lies the problem.  It's a religion. 

Jim Jones murdered a Congressman and slaughtered 800 including himself to avoid responsibility.

David Koresh allowed dozens of children to die.

Take into account just for a moment,  the amount and number of people, groups, businesses, govt's and international entities who WANTED TO BUY INTO THIS.

The MISFIT FUCKS on the LEFT who could blame CAPITALISM, who could POSTURE as HOLIER THAN THOU.

And it was all a lie.

They will not give it up.  NEVER.

OPIE WON'T

Posted by: gus at February 14, 2010 05:49 PM (MaqIC)

46

LauraW asked us if this is kinda unprecedented, a groundswell of former Soldiers, Airmen, Sailors (aka superior humans) and some other military dudes Marines seeking public office.

fify

Posted by: navycopjoe at February 14, 2010 05:50 PM (DNSGm)

47

(sounds like a man talking bout his junk.  He starts off short and sober, ends drunk and OMG! HUGE!

 

hahahaha funny that

Posted by: The Great Satan's Ghost at February 14, 2010 05:50 PM (CqCiY)

48 Indicted Bob Menendez ran in 2004 as the NJ anti-Bush. Billboards in Hudson and Essex Counties stated "Bob Menendez Will End Bush's Illegal Iraq War". Yay NJ! Senator Senile and Senator Indicted. Fuck em both. I cheer a Menendez recall!

Posted by: Pecos Bill at February 14, 2010 05:52 PM (8WOM0)

49

#17:

The problem with that requirement is that a war would then always be questionable - was it for the country or for a new generation to serve in units for their tour so they could run for political office?  It is bad enough that the connected can use their pull to get staff assignments.

 

(Note:  JFK volunteered for torpedo boats - which is the opposite of safe.  Like George HW Bush going navy carrier aviation - even in peacetime then, that was not safe.)

Posted by: Mikey NTH at February 14, 2010 05:53 PM (gzjX3)

50 Some great candidates for your consideration:  Jesse Kelly, Lt Col Allen West, and Diggs Brown.

Posted by: MissTammy at February 14, 2010 05:53 PM (GXLjK)

51 In the novel "Starship Troopers" it was the veterans of the last big war who create the new government and service based suffrage system.After a collapse caused by progressive policies in education and the prison system etc.I think Heinlein saw the writing on the wall back in the lat 50's.l

Posted by: steevy at February 14, 2010 05:59 PM (uRWE4)

Posted by: lauraw at February 14, 2010 06:01 PM (DbybK)

53 Here is another veteran running for Congress (13th Dist in North Carolina): Bill Randall, Conservative for Congress.  He grew up in the Lower Ninth Ward of New Orleans.

Posted by: stuiec at February 14, 2010 06:01 PM (GU29T)

54 Wasn't one of the hallmarks of the Blue Dog Democrats their military service?

Posted by: bergerbilder at February 14, 2010 06:06 PM (S1Ttj)

55 Horatius -- battery draw is a whole different story.  I doubt you could predict it without measuring the resistance of your setup and using a new battery.  I just carry an extra gel cell (and a paddle).  The problem is wind and currents - you may not realize how much work your motor is doing.  I wouldn't trust the elcheapo "battery meters" that come with the motors.  I suspect they do a very good job of measuring a full battery and an empty one - everything in between is just a guess.

I didn't mean to be a prick, but screwing with marine power systems is usually a bad idea.

Posted by: Jean at February 14, 2010 06:08 PM (CPefM)

56 32

You'll also find the biggest, sleaziest commie bastids you've ever seen among the ranks of honorable dischargees. The mere fact that you've been in uniform does not make you a patriot, any more than a college degree makes you educated. And we have the incumbents to prove it.  

Posted by: comatus at February 14, 2010 09:21 PM (/VEEI)

http://tiny.cc/mhOTr

Markos Moulitsas Zúñiga

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at February 14, 2010 06:09 PM (F09Uo)

57 An Officer and a Cogressman

Posted by: garrett at February 14, 2010 06:10 PM (UNOPX)

58

Now it is 6 - 10 inches (sounds like a man talking bout his junk.  He starts off short and sober, ends drunk and OMG! HUGE!

I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Posted by: andrew sullivan at February 14, 2010 06:13 PM (UNOPX)

59 Unlike a lawyer or professional politician, until proven otherwise, I will give a combat veteran the benefit of the doubt.

Posted by: Jean at February 14, 2010 06:14 PM (CPefM)

60 Military service has always given an important advantage to electoral candidates. This is why the anti-military 60's generation, with its candidates who do not have military service, has been so keen on selling the false idea that military service promotes psychological instability -- to take away the edge that veterans have in gaining elective office. Fortunately that phony story has not persuaded the American people. But military service is no guarantee of any one political position -- George McGovern was a WWII bomber pilot, as I recall, and he was Mr. Liberal in the 1972 Presidential election. Nor is non-military service a guarantee of political position either. Yes, Reagan was in the military -- but making films, not really what anyone thinks of a disciplined service under arms anywhere in or even near combat or in support of combat units.

Posted by: Edward Sisson at February 14, 2010 06:18 PM (XpBZo)

61

meanwhile, it looks as if the AGW religion dying

Posted by: Threadjacker at February 14, 2010 09:26 PM (C39a6)
____________________________________

The following is from the linked article on Mail Online:

But he [Phil Jones]...  said he still believed recent temperature rises were predominantly man-made. He also agreed that there had been two periods which experienced similar warming, from 1910 to 1940 and from 1975 to 1998, but said these could be explained by natural phenomena whereas more recent warming could not. He further admitted that in the last 15 years there had been no ‘statistically significant' warming...

Professor Jones' statements seem very confused, at least as reported in the article. For example, he says there was warming from 1975 to 1998 which could  be explained by natural phenomena, but more recent warming - presumably after 1998 - could not be explained by natural phenomena. Then he says there has been no statistically significant warming in the last 15 years, which would be about from 1995 to 2010. This would seem to be a more recent period.

BBC's environmental analyst Roger Harrabin seems more sure of the picture than Jones now claims to be: [Harrabin] told Radio 4's Today programme that, despite the controversies, there still appeared to be no fundamental flaws in the majority scientific view that climate change was largely man-made.





Posted by: Floridian at February 14, 2010 06:21 PM (CKW49)

62 Has anyone thought to do a compilation of all these new candidates, so that we can observe and track them in toto?

Posted by: geewhiz at February 14, 2010 06:21 PM (ZGBeX)

63

Markos Moulitsas Zúñiga

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at February 14, 2010 10:09 PM (F09Uo)


it's a toss up on who I despise more, that asshole or Soros.

Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Meteors, and Buckets of Scorn for the Left at February 14, 2010 06:27 PM (erIg9)

64

This kind of thing tends to happen after victorious wars. It happened big-time after the Civil war, and after WWII (Eisenhower?). It didn't really happen after Viet Nam, because the consensus was that we lost that one. And Operation Desert Storm didn't last long enough to have that effect. (Formal ground combat only lasted for three days.)

The Iraq war was a victory for us, and it did last for years, and so you can expect a fair number of veterans to use their war records as springboards for public office.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at February 14, 2010 06:32 PM (+rSRq)

65 The last time we had so many combat veterans was after Vietnam when the conventional wisdom was that soldiers had cooties. Yes, mainstream liberalism has the maturity of a third grader. Now the guys are out and our country has matured enough to welcome them and their experience and wisdom. They will continue to make this country better.

Posted by: Ronsonic at February 14, 2010 06:46 PM (XiQgY)

66 I'm not a combat vet, but am a vet, and am running for the Florida House of Representatives.  Also happen to be a long-time moron, under the moniker of ArrMatey.

Posted by: Craig McCarthy at February 14, 2010 06:54 PM (Ir8C5)

67 www.pantanoforcongress.com

Ilario Pantano has an uphill battle to take a seat in the 7th District of NC that has been Dem for over 100 years.  If anyone can do it, it's that hard core warrior.

Semper Fi, brother!


Posted by: corpseman at February 14, 2010 07:01 PM (Ig6hf)

68 Lt Col Allen West.

Now there's a man who can be counted on to tell it like it is, when it is and pull the trigger when required.

Posted by: Grimmy at February 14, 2010 08:03 PM (PD4OH)

69 Todd Young is a squishy and Dick Lugar moderate who doesn't even campaign or hold meet&greets in the district he's running for (Mine). Spends all his time up in Indy. Bless him for his service but no thanks.

Posted by: GrumpyUnk at February 14, 2010 08:11 PM (d7zzZ)

70 #3, oh, and my problem with an electoral "military coup" is what? About zero.

The only problem with an electoral military coup is it won't involve enemies' lists, firing squads, and prison camps, and I consider those very important in my plans to clean up the anti-American left.

If Marcia Blackburn ever gives up on her House seat to go be Governor or knock that RINO Alexander out of the Senate, I'd love her old seat in Tennessee. I have a house there. Shame I'm a little too much of a right-wing fascist to get elected. I have a bad habit of saying things like "some people need to be publicly executed" and "Code Pink should be filling a mass grave someplace".

Posted by: SGT Dan at February 14, 2010 08:14 PM (KLFGv)

71 Brave American men and women take out the terrorists overseas, and just when they think they can come home and sort of relax in the embrace of their loved ones - they have to take out the trash in DC.  Crap, I know it's a dirty job, but unfortunately, no Democrats are gonna do it, are they?

Posted by: sherlock at February 14, 2010 08:24 PM (ZrS0c)

72 Todd Young's bio on his campaign website does not give off the odor of a guy who's answering the call at this particular moment in time. Rather, it seems he's been plotting for his election to Congress all along, since high school. At least he seems to have consistently been a conservative Congressman-in-waiting.

Posted by: Brendon Carr at February 15, 2010 02:59 AM (xKvmj)

73
Marine Captain who hates irresponsible spending.

Let's hope he stays that way, and doesn't "grow" in the office.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at February 15, 2010 05:13 AM (1hM1d)

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