May 04, 2010
— DrewM We can't keep counting on the incompetence of terrorists but first we have a bit of work to do on our own end.
(Faisal) Shahzad, who had been the subject of a huge manhunt, almost made it out of the country on a Emirates flight to Dubai, with a planned connection onward to Pakistan, according to the officials."He appeared real close to getting away," one federal official said. "The plane was buttoned up. Backed away from the jetway."
Authorities said that despite the manhunt, his passport had not been flagged and he was able to buy a ticket with cash and clear airport security.
FBI agents discovered Shahzad's car parked in a short-term lot at JFK airport Monday evening and searched for his name on airline passenger manifests.
The flight had begun to taxi for takeoff when FBI agents ordered it to return to the gate where Shahzad and two others were taken into custody. The other two were later released, authorities said.
Now it wasn't really quite that close. If they had been a few minutes later they could have ordered the plane to return, land somewhere else or worst case scenario, arrested him in Dubai or when he got off the plane in Pakistan.
Still, questions need to be asked about how a wanted terrorist manage to buy a ticket, presumably a one way ticket to Pakistan and still get on a plane. Did the NYPD/FBI not ask State/TSA to flag it? Or did the breakdown occur in the implementation?
8+ years after 9/11 and we're still treating old ladies at airports like they are prison drug mules but this can happen?
The system is not working.
Via Jake Tapper.
Added: Mayor Bloomberg emails to say, "We are investigating reports this individual was heading to Pakistan, not to escape law enforcement but because he can't stand living in the US now that health care reform has been signed into law".
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Posted by: Faisal Shahzad at May 04, 2010 06:31 AM (t75Tk)
Posted by: Lincontf at May 04, 2010 06:31 AM (qSRHZ)
They actually had to physically go there in order to halt the plane?! Have they ever heard of the telephone?! It's been around a while.
By the way, did anyone see the picture of Barack Obama biting into a ripe, juicy SOUL on the top of the Drudge Report?
Posted by: Phil Jones at May 04, 2010 06:32 AM (5XpwW)
They need to synrgize better.
Posted by: taylork's meeting buzzwords at May 04, 2010 06:34 AM (4yrb2)
This is NOT what they were saying on Fox in the early hours this morning. An LEO representative said they were behind him all the way and had agents on the plane.
They said they allowed him to board on purpose so as to see if he had accomplices on board as well.
They said there was never any danger of the plane leaving or him getting away.
Posted by: Vic at May 04, 2010 06:34 AM (QrA9E)
If it was ISI covering its tracks, the suspect would have died while resisting arrest.
He can always meet a tragic end in one of those 'escape attempts'.
Posted by: Dang Straights at May 04, 2010 06:37 AM (fx8sm)
Posted by: Big Sis Napalitano at May 04, 2010 06:37 AM (uZYdF)
"Authorities said that despite the manhunt, his passport had not been flagged and he was able to buy a ticket with cash and clear airport security."
Seriously, how the $hit can people still get away with buying tickets in the friggin US with cash? I mean come on, he should have had 85 TSA guys pouring over his stuff with microscopes. But due to PC they can't do squat.
Posted by: Johnnyreb at May 04, 2010 06:38 AM (y67bA)
The system worked as it was designed to do to handle this potential "man-made" disaster
Actually, since the poor oppressed freedom fighter didn't get away, I take that back...
Posted by: Bulldyke Napolitano at May 04, 2010 06:39 AM (ujg0T)
Posted by: PJ at May 04, 2010 06:39 AM (dLFNL)
Posted by: Bill Maher at May 04, 2010 06:39 AM (B+qrE)
Posted by: Jean at May 04, 2010 06:40 AM (I/7fp)
Posted by: Foil Hat Wearing Fool From DU at May 04, 2010 06:40 AM (s3LK6)
Our Political Betters are more interested in fighting the AWM* than the WOT.
Our political "betters" are on the other side.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 04, 2010 06:40 AM (ujg0T)
The bigger issue is why this guy was naturalized! It's as if we have a death wish.
Posted by: NJConservative at May 04, 2010 06:41 AM (LH6ir)
The great bomber bought a car off CL. Traceable. Doesn't know about hidden VIN numbers on cars. Builds a piece of shit bomb that fizzles. Then tries to fly out of the area he tried to bomb instead of just taxiing out of an airport beyond local scrutiny.
I got 3 words to describe him.
Total. Fucking. Retard.
Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at May 04, 2010 06:41 AM (uFdnM)
They said they allowed him to board on purpose so as to see if he had accomplices on board as well.
I can believe that. There's always the possibility that the accomplices left on separate flights, but this is amateur terrorist hour. Thank Gaia for that, this could have been a lot fucking worse.
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 04, 2010 06:41 AM (9hSKh)
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at May 04, 2010 06:41 AM (RkRxq)
Posted by: taylork's meeting buzzwords at May 04, 2010 06:41 AM (4yrb2)
And we don't know if he used his real name on the ticket, do we?
Given the the trail of FAISAL SHAHZAD DID IT clues this genius left behind, I'd wager Christine Pelosi's remaining gray cell that he did use his real name.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 04, 2010 06:42 AM (B+qrE)
I wouldn't believe a lot of the crap people in the MFM are pumping today.
Posted by: Vic at May 04, 2010 06:42 AM (QrA9E)
Posted by: mistress overdone at May 04, 2010 06:44 AM (2/oBD)
"They need to synrgize better."
Somebody should document this finding in an action-item. Let's meet next week to determine a reasonable suspense date and plan for excellence.
Posted by: reason, measuring his buzzwords-wang at May 04, 2010 06:45 AM (kZVsz)
Posted by: Mayor Bloomberg at May 04, 2010 06:45 AM (Cxsey)
He blamed the "Won" because he is not actively going after the terrorists on their own ground so now they are coming here.
The LEO tried to tie this to domestic terrorism because the guy was a "citizen". I guess he wasn't clued up on the fact that the guy had been a citizen for less than a year and was likely planning then when he came here.
Posted by: Vic at May 04, 2010 06:46 AM (QrA9E)
The first WTC bombers were caught by tracing the VIN back to the rental agency where they got the van. So they haven't learned much it seems.
Posted by: Mal at May 04, 2010 06:46 AM (Z+qzA)
9actually Drew they have heard of the phone
0 the authorities were hoping he would use his to contact possibly other guilty people
Posted by: l. lewis at May 04, 2010 06:46 AM (1kwr2)
The bigger issue is why this guy was naturalized! It's as if we have a death wish.
You do. You elected me and I wrote the immigration laws!
Posted by: Zombie Teddy Kennedy at May 04, 2010 06:46 AM (ujg0T)
Might be illegal to refuse cash. It does say right on the bills it that it's legal for all exchanges....
But the day of the flight, that should get you an in-face interview with El Al-trained investigators before they let you through the X-ray machine. Pretty easy to figure out if they bought a last-minute ticket to see their dying mother...
Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 04, 2010 06:46 AM (mR7mk)
We decided as a country to commit national suicide on 11/4/08.
Meanwhile, across the sea.
British national election headed for stalemate
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 04, 2010 06:47 AM (9hSKh)
Let's meet next week to determine a reasonable suspense date and plan for excellence.
We need to strategize next-generation ROI, maximize virtual experiences, and grow strategic architectures in the effort to curb domestic TEABAGGER terrorism.
Posted by: BS Generator 2.0 at May 04, 2010 06:48 AM (fx8sm)
Meanwhile, in my fantasies:
Sarah Palin has challenged NYC Mayor Mike Bloomberg to settle a matter of honor, "man-to-man", in front of City Hall at high noon.
"Don't worry, I won't shoot him, I'll just pistol-whip the sorry little bitch." Palin was quoted as saying.
She continued, "It's about damn time someone stood up for average law-abiding Americans that get slandered by slimey POS's like this guy, on the assumption that they can say anything they want about conservatives and there won't be any consequences. Mr. Mayor is about to fucking learn otherwise."
Posted by: sherlock at May 04, 2010 06:48 AM (cq3pU)
Now he's waving his finger and pointing at YOU!!11!!11!!
NYC mayor: Bias will not be tolerated Published: 5/4/10, 10:25 AM EDTBy JENNIFER PELTZ
NEW YORK (AP) - Mayor Michael Bloomberg says New York City "will not tolerate any bias" following the arrest of a U.S. citizen from Pakistan in the Times Square car bombing attempt.
Bloomberg said Tuesday that also applies to potential backlash against Muslim New Yorkers.
The mayor said there are "a few bad apples" among any groups. He also cited New York's long history of accepting cultures from the around the world.
Posted by: dananjcon at May 04, 2010 06:48 AM (pr+up)
Seriously, how the $hit can people still get away with buying tickets in the friggin US with cash?
Seriously, shouldn't ANYONE on a flight to the M.E. be subject to some kind of scrutiny?
Posted by: BS Generator 2.0 at May 04, 2010 06:50 AM (fx8sm)
In completely unrelated new the Terrorist was a registered democrat.
That seems to be happening a lot these days..
Posted by: Ben at May 04, 2010 06:50 AM (wuv1c)
Posted by: Mjim at May 04, 2010 06:50 AM (V8B//)
"They need to synrgize better."
I don't think that word means what you think it does. Plus that word was actually used in the official BRAC decision to keep the Submarine base open here in Groton, CT a few years back.
Posted by: Johnnyreb at May 04, 2010 06:50 AM (cqZXM)
Posted by: kelley in virginia at May 04, 2010 06:51 AM (FTgRA)
Mayor Michael Bloomberg says New York City "will not tolerate any bias"
That's the fourth irony meter I've busted this year.
(Cue Joseph Welch: At long last, have you no sense of decency, sir?)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 04, 2010 06:51 AM (B+qrE)
Posted by: Ben at May 04, 2010 06:51 AM (wuv1c)
Yeah I remember all those violent attacks against Muslims righter after 9/11 too. Oh, wait.
Posted by: taylork's meeting buzzwords at May 04, 2010 06:52 AM (4yrb2)
Posted by: Mike Hunt at May 04, 2010 06:52 AM (SZy+Y)
Heh, DrewM. That damn tea-bagger.
Speaking of those who use the derogatory term "tea-bagger", do we have to add the President to the list? (Hot Air)
In Jonathan Alter’s: "The Prormse: President Obama, Year One." President Obama is quoted in an interview saying that the unanimous vote of House Republicans vote against the stimulus bills “set the tenor for the whole year ... That helped to create the tea-baggers and empowered that whole wing of the Republican Party to where it now controls the agenda for the Republicans.”
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 04, 2010 06:53 AM (9hSKh)
Posted by: Bill Maher at May 04, 2010 10:39 AM (B+qrE)
I thought they developed a way to convert them to ethanol.
Posted by: Insomniac at May 04, 2010 06:53 AM (DrWcr)
I'm so relieved to know that under Obumble our nation's most effective counter-terrorism tools are the stupidity of the terrorists and damned blind luck.
I wonder what reasons will be that this guy "doesn't count." Probably just because he didn't kill anyone. Nothing to worry about, nothing to see here, move along! Oh! Hey! Some rightwing Christians! Everyone panic!
Posted by: Shillelagh at May 04, 2010 06:53 AM (Oz4Bj)
"...still treating old ladies at airports like they are prison drug mules..."
"... because he can't stand living in the US now that health care reform has been signed into law"
Makes me OK with not ever seeing Ace before Noon anymore!
Posted by: dfbaskwill at May 04, 2010 06:54 AM (usjNq)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 04, 2010 06:55 AM (xGIqT)
under Obumble our nation's most effective counter-terrorism tools are the stupidity of the terrorists and damned blind luck
The system worked! THE SYSTEM WOOOOOOOOORRRKED!!!111!!!!
Posted by: Bruno Napalitano at May 04, 2010 06:55 AM (fx8sm)
Posted by: sexypig at May 04, 2010 06:55 AM (jbpyv)
Posted by: RushBabe at May 04, 2010 06:55 AM (LKkE8)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 04, 2010 06:56 AM (xGIqT)
Once a jihadi is in an enclosed space with lots of unarmed civilians, there is no guarantee of safety. If the plane had taken off with the Pakistani on it, who knows what might have happened mid-air. Now, it seems that this particular jihadi was not into martyrdom, but that is just an after-the-fact assessment that one can never make with these scumbags. Even letting this guy on the plane was way too far. We got lucky ... again. Bernoulli says that that luck won't last very long.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at May 04, 2010 06:56 AM (Qp4DT)
Excellent point Poly. It would have taken about 3 or 4 hours of good police work to identify this asshat. At that point it would have been all hands on deck. No chance this fucker was escaping. They in fact exercised excellent judgment in letting him board to identify potential co-conspirators. They pulled two others off and let them go.
I used to call this good police work. The cops can't publicize all of their actions. It allows the defense to build a case, fucks up jury pools.
Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at May 04, 2010 06:57 AM (uFdnM)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at May 04, 2010 06:58 AM (7VvJB)
Does anyone else find it suprising that terrorists keep failing.
Is it really that hard to make a bomb? What kind of training do they receive in pakistan and afghanistan? are their teachers incompetent?
I am just amazed that we've lucked out so many times. This guy, the underwear bomber, richard reid, etc etc.
I would think that it would be easy to make a crude and effective bomb.
Look at Tim McVeigh, he was able to make a bomb, almost entirely by himself that was capable of taking down an entire building. And all he had was american army training.
I'm glad we've lucked out, I truly am, but I am also starting to wonder if we've killed off all the smart terrorists trainers in the middle east and only the rejects are left.
anyone else?
Posted by: Ben at May 04, 2010 06:58 AM (wuv1c)
Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at May 04, 2010 06:59 AM (uFdnM)
Posted by: richard mcenroe at May 04, 2010 06:59 AM (QU7tZ)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 04, 2010 06:59 AM (xGIqT)
Posted by: reason at May 04, 2010 07:00 AM (kZVsz)
I will not tolerate you racist tea-baggers dicrimminating against any minorities in my city, esp. against the towel heads, the wet backs and those sneaky smarmy joooos!!11!!
Oh...wait, check that...is this mic. on??
Posted by: Bloom-Bat at May 04, 2010 07:00 AM (pr+up)
Allowing a bombing suspect to board a plane full of potential hostages is not exactly what I would call excellent judgment.
Posted by: Mal at May 04, 2010 07:02 AM (Z+qzA)
What in hell is it going to take?! And someone please tell me we can revoke this fucker's citizenship?
oh and p.s.
Dear Mayor Bloomberg,
Fuck you. Edgewise, with a chainsaw.
Besos,
MDH3
Posted by: MDH3 at May 04, 2010 07:02 AM (4u+LN)
(Cue Joseph Welch: At long last, have you no sense of decency, sir?)
Except that it has become obvious that Tailgunner Joe McCarthy, inspite of his alcoholism, was spot-on. We really did, and still do, have a Fifth Column in this country, entrenched in academia, the media, the bureaucracy, and the entertainment industry.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 04, 2010 07:02 AM (ujg0T)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 04, 2010 07:04 AM (ucxC/)
but I am also starting to wonder if we've killed off all the smart terrorists trainers in the middle east and only the rejects ones educated at Harvard are left.
FIFY
Posted by: Atomic Roach at May 04, 2010 07:04 AM (Oxen1)
So, letting a guy who less than 48 hours earlier tried to blow up a car in Times Square get on a plane is a "successful story"?
No, you're right. It's not as if terrorists have ever tried to blow up airplanes before.
Wait, that's not right.
Now, if rushed in just before they locked the doors, okay I might buy it. But why let it taxi away from the gate? If he or any possible accomplices had explosives on them they would have had a heads up something was wrong and time to blow it up before getting back to the gate.
Hell of risk, eh? If that's even what happened.
Posted by: Rick Sanchez at May 04, 2010 07:04 AM (9B5OK)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 04, 2010 07:05 AM (1Jaio)
I love people second guessing cops. It reminds me of why I am thankfully retired. Everyone knew how to do my job better than me. Fuck. Thanks for posting that.
Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at May 04, 2010 07:06 AM (uFdnM)
Posted by: Mjim at May 04, 2010 07:07 AM (V8B//)
Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at May 04, 2010 10:59 AM (uFdnM)
Heh. I see that you and I are going to be wrestling over this, and the general approach to these attacks. If there were other cell members on the plane with the Pakistani then the passengers would certainly be put in jeopardy without much advantage to it. They could have been picked up before - like kept aside as they passed through the TSA checks and held then.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at May 04, 2010 07:07 AM (Qp4DT)
Posted by: GarandFan at May 04, 2010 07:08 AM (6mwMs)
Posted by: joncelli at May 04, 2010 07:08 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: maddogg at May 04, 2010 07:08 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: taylork's meeting buzzwords at May 04, 2010 07:09 AM (4yrb2)
Look at Tim McVeigh, he was able to make a bomb, almost entirely by himself that was capable of taking down an entire building. And all he had was american army training.
Think back to the Oklahoma City bombing. Do you remember initial reports that a man of Middle Eastern descent was seen running from McVeigh's vehicle? This was broadcast for about a day or so and then mysteriously went away. Remember who was in the WH then? Yeah, Billy Jeff.
Not long ago it came out that McVeigh was in the M.E. for a few months before the OC bombing, and his accomplice that day went on to become well known to FBI folk for terrorist activity. Some AQ factions claim that OC was the first "successful" attack on US soil.
Posted by: RushBabe at May 04, 2010 07:09 AM (LKkE8)
I'm glad we've lucked out, I truly am, but I am also starting to wonder if we've killed off all the smart terrorists trainers in the middle east and only the rejects are left.
Ssshhh. If they keep 'splodin' themselves, they'll be doing our job for us.
This guy obviously didn't think martyrdom was such a good idea, elst he'd've been a fine pink mist on Saturday night. Seriously, why not just pull up to the curb at Times Square and press the button?
Oh, and Bloomberg is an idiot.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at May 04, 2010 07:09 AM (i3AsK)
Posted by: Mjim at May 04, 2010 07:10 AM (V8B//)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 04, 2010 07:10 AM (xGIqT)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 04, 2010 07:10 AM (mR7mk)
Authorities said that despite the manhunt, his passport had not been flagged and he was able to buy a ticket with cash and clear airport security.
How much longer can we let the Mickey Mouse Club run ths country?????
Posted by: Cleve 44 at May 04, 2010 07:10 AM (angcA)
Still, questions need to be asked about how a wanted terrorist manage to buy a ticket, presumably a one way ticket to Pakistan and still get on a plane. Did the NYPD/FBI not ask State/TSA to flag it? Or did the breakdown occur in the implementation?
8+ years after 9/11 and we're still treating old ladies at airports like they are prison drug mules but this can happen?
The system is not working.
Amen. The people least likely to get TSA in trouble by screaming about racism or civil rights violations are the ones who get harassed the most.
Posted by: FUBAR at May 04, 2010 07:12 AM (1fanL)
My father was a Boston cop for 41 years and I've never heard of any police force allowing a dangerous suspect to enter into a situation where hostages could be taken.
Although I find your faith in the TSA heartwarming.
Posted by: Mal at May 04, 2010 07:12 AM (Z+qzA)
Allowing a bombing suspect to board a plane full of potential hostages pissed-off Americans who won't take this shit anymore is not exactly what I would call excellent judgment.
FIFY
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at May 04, 2010 07:12 AM (i3AsK)
"cat filter"
I put a K&N in Mr. Squiggles about 5K miles ago. Good for at least four lives, and then I only really need to just knock the dirt and hairballs out, re-oil it, and she's good to go for the other five.
Posted by: reason at May 04, 2010 07:13 AM (sPO/s)
Posted by: Somebody on some lefty site somewhere, within the next 5 minutes at May 04, 2010 07:14 AM (RD7QR)
Allowing a bombing suspect to board a plane full of potential hostages pissed-off Americans who won't take this shit anymore is not exactly what I would call excellent judgment.
Yeah, if one of the passengers had punched the fuck in the nose Holder and Bloomberg would have thrown the book at them.
Posted by: maddogg at May 04, 2010 07:15 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 04, 2010 07:15 AM (B+qrE)
1) I am physically sick of seeing this asshole; and
2) Every time he opens his mouth he lies so it is useless to watch him anyway.
I turned it off.
Posted by: Vic at May 04, 2010 07:15 AM (QrA9E)
It's not hard to aim and shoot a rifle, either, but jihadis (arabs, in particular) are known to be awful shots - even with lots of training. And these are people who claim that guns are so much part of their culture (though they haven't had them for very long) that they must shoot in the air to celebrate everything. But they still suck at shooting.
This is why the arab/persian/muslim world is always shamed (by their own incompetence) and will never stop seeking revenge to alleviate this shame of their own ineptitude and stupidity. They embarrass themselves and then have to attack us. It is a cycle that has nothing to do with us. The only answer to this is to take away the source of their power (political, financial, ...) - the control of the gulf oil fields. Otherwise, it will be a future of endless attacks from the APM world, just to hide their own embarrassment about being pathetic imbeciles.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at May 04, 2010 07:16 AM (Qp4DT)
I spent a career, 25 years, chasing asshats. I know what it takes. I know the kind of people, very intelligent people, catching these asshats. They are very very capable. Unfortunately, they cannot disclose tactics. Every precaution would have been taken.
Pls. take my word for it. This douche bag was an amateur. Nobody was in jeopardy except the asshat.
Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at May 04, 2010 07:16 AM (uFdnM)
Posted by: unknown jane at May 04, 2010 07:16 AM (5/yRG)
Posted by: taylork's meeting buzzwords at May 04, 2010 07:16 AM (4yrb2)
Posted by: Vic at May 04, 2010 07:17 AM (QrA9E)
Posted by: Fresh Air at May 04, 2010 07:17 AM (oLEfK)
Posted by: kansas at May 04, 2010 07:18 AM (mka2b)
I can't take lipstick through airport security in my bag and I have to have a passport to drive over the border to Canada but this jackass, whose name was known for trying to blow up Times Square, can buy a ticket to Pakistan with cash?
Yeah. I'm out of profanity.
Posted by: alexthechick at May 04, 2010 07:18 AM (8WZWv)
Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at May 04, 2010 07:19 AM (uFdnM)
It's not hard to aim and shoot a rifle, either, but jihadis (arabs, in particular) are known to be awful shots - even with lots of training. And these are people who claim that guns are so much part of their culture (though they haven't had them for very long) that they must shoot in the air to celebrate everything. But they still suck at shooting.
It's not genetics, it's Allah. They have a serious tendency to spray and leave it to Allah to direct the bullets. "Allah's will". Problem is, Allah doesn't give a fuck. So the bullets just follow the laws of Newton, rather than Allah.
Posted by: maddogg at May 04, 2010 07:19 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: ExurbanKevin at May 04, 2010 07:20 AM (toqoX)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 04, 2010 11:10 AM (mR7mk)
I wonder if he got one of those Barry redo loans that worked so well
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 04, 2010 07:20 AM (1Jaio)
Lunatic Fringe,
I agree with you. Thank God the TSA was on the job.
Although, in his defense, I also get sleepy after a can of Ensure.
Allowing a bombing suspect to board a plane full of potential hostages pissed-off Americans Middle Easterners who won't take this shit anymore may have also been fleeing the scene of their own failed bombing attempts is not exactly what I would call excellent judgment.
It was a United Emirates Airlines flight. Use your head, people.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 04, 2010 07:20 AM (xGIqT)
8+ years after 9/11 and we're still treating old ladies at airports like they are prison drug mules but this can happen?
Of course we are. Multiculturalism at work!
Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 04, 2010 07:20 AM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at May 04, 2010 07:22 AM (uFdnM)
but never the religion of pieces.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at May 04, 2010 07:23 AM (7VvJB)
A wise tactic would have been to allow this guy to continue to use his cell phone and communicate to his allies. Then swoop in at the last minute to pluck him before he leaves the States. More intel possible if we let him continue to try to escape.
Somehow I suspect we were more lucky than wise though.
Posted by: California Red at May 04, 2010 07:23 AM (BwKFR)
Posted by: t-bird at May 04, 2010 07:23 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at May 04, 2010 11:17 AM (uFdnM)
In Israel, much dumber terrorists killed lots and lots of people. And that was with a Shin Bet who had much more freedom in their domestic operations than our FBI has, and with lots of informers in the territories. They had palestinians eventually resorting to using bulldozers to try and run over people. Bulldozers! Now, that is pretty stupid stuff, but it works. And it is just one more tactic to use.
Even dumb terrorists can wreak amazing damage, and given a number of opportunities, they will.
As to letting this guy on the plane, the cockpit is open as people are boarding and it is entirely possible for a guy to take over the cockpit upon entering the plane and taxiing and taking off (if he is able) or just running the plane around the airport and really causing devastation.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at May 04, 2010 07:24 AM (Qp4DT)
Obama Must Restore New York's Terror Fighting Funds
Bullshit; spend NYC money on police you have had enough "terror funds".
Posted by: Vic at May 04, 2010 07:24 AM (QrA9E)
Posted by: Somebody on some lefty site somewhere, within the next 5 minutes at May 04, 2010 07:26 AM (RD7QR)
Once in Dubai, you can almost guarantee there was someone there with a quick connection, under a false name, to some other middle eastern country. Poof. He'd be gone . . . .
What am I saying? All it would take is another nice letter from Obama and Iran would help hunt such a person down. Smart diplomacy is effective diplomacy.
Posted by: Jug-Eared F*** at May 04, 2010 07:26 AM (xJzIj)
With any luck, B-A-R, A-C-K, O-B, A-M-A will be gone in 2012. Or possibly earlier depending on whether he up and quits, which is a distinct possibility given his past, or gets impeached for doing something spectacularly stupid.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 04, 2010 07:26 AM (S/HSv)
Posted by: Mike Hunt at May 04, 2010 07:27 AM (SZy+Y)
"Spray and pray". Reminds me of that failed Iranian motorcycle attack on an Iraqi position. The Iranians thought that Allah would make them invulnerable on this particular night because of how the moon was positioned or something like that. Allah did not come through for the Iranians that night, as you might have guessed.
Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at May 04, 2010 07:28 AM (9hSKh)
With any luck, B-A-R, A-C-K, O-B, A-M-A will be gone in 2012.
OK, AOSHQ denizens, this is asking for a parody.
I can think of a chorus:
"Jugeared Prez! Jugeared Prez! Forever they will hold his banner high...."
Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 04, 2010 07:30 AM (ujg0T)
Posted by: LaQusiha Bigbutt from Compton, CA at May 04, 2010 07:30 AM (SZy+Y)
The "bomb" was made out of PVC. It had plastic end caps. I was fairly certain it was bullshit but I was forced to evacuate most of the building and of course hours later, the bomb guys said it was bullshit.
However, the real pain came when I was forced to explain ad nauseum at department and staff meetings in the following days and weeks why I did what I did that fateful day. It was impossible to please everyone...everyone had some notion of how I behaved rationally or irrationally depending on whether they liked me or not. That's what it always boils down to. It is no different here on the AOSHQ.
Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at May 04, 2010 07:30 AM (uFdnM)
"questions need to be asked about how a wanted terrorist manage to buy a ticket"
Did they even know who they were looking for at that point?
Posted by: JEA at May 04, 2010 07:31 AM (XZu3c)
Posted by: LaQusiha Bigbutt from Compton, CA at May 04, 2010 11:30 AM (SZy+Y)
Don't forget Shirley Q. Liquor....
Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 04, 2010 07:31 AM (ujg0T)
can't stand living in the US now that health care reform has been signed into law
What's the problem? You will be seeing more Pakistani doctors from now on.
Posted by: always right at May 04, 2010 07:32 AM (7GfKM)
Every time I fly, I'm glad for the security professionals that keep me safe, especially the morbidly obese woman who sucks her teeth constantly while making a short line with a highlighter on my boarding pass.
It gives me the same secure feeling I get when leaving WalMart, or Sam's Club, knowing that these Guardians of Democracy stand ready, holding the Sword Highlighter of Liberty high, eternally vigilant, slashing the Brand Highlighter Mark of Freedom across receipts and boarding passes across this great nation. Let these Badges of Courage Highlighter Marks serve as a warning to our enemies that we are Always Ready, Always Watching, and going on our break.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 04, 2010 07:32 AM (xGIqT)
Huffpo is blaming Bush..... I guess if he wasnt so mean.. these people would not want to blow us up.
So this guy they arrested in Pakistan.. he was a tea partier angry about healthcare?
Posted by: Timbo at May 04, 2010 07:32 AM (7GgDy)
Total. Fucking. Retard.
There are likely others involved, and this guy is the Mohammed Salameh of this attack. Salameh was the guy from the '93 WTC attack who tried to get his deposit back on the rental van that carried the bomb...
I wonder if the jihadis don't use the TFRs as "wolf meat" -- toss the least useful member of the team to the wolves to gnaw on while the rest of the team gets away. It worked in '93.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at May 04, 2010 07:33 AM (IuKAf)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at May 04, 2010 07:33 AM (7VvJB)
Curmudgeon,
Use be a racer for staying does meen things abouts me ant my skan colored. I be edmucated en Las Angeles schrool dictrict.
Posted by: LaQusiha Bigbutt from Compton, CA at May 04, 2010 07:33 AM (SZy+Y)
You're talking like State is on our side. Remember who expedited the entry of the 9/11 hijackers into this country.
Visa Express, baby!
Posted by: Rob Crawford at May 04, 2010 07:35 AM (IuKAf)
I hope that if MLB does start considering a boycott that millions of fans write in to inform them of a counter-boycott if they go through with it.
Posted by: logprof at May 04, 2010 07:36 AM (Mmw0q)
Posted by: Trimegistus at May 04, 2010 07:37 AM (K0vnr)
No, it's not. My friends and I used to go out to a rural property that one of our parent's owned, and we'd rig up all kinds of outrageous crap to make entertaining explosions.
The highest praise was reserved for pyrotechnics and/or launching heavy objects skyward.
If we could do that for shytes and giggles, at age 14, with only the information you could get from a public library, then no, it's not that hard to make something that would get serious media attention.
(This was before the Internet. We had to entertain ourselves.)
Posted by: Phinn at May 04, 2010 07:38 AM (emFX5)
Look, any bomber worth a shit, can build a bomb that works. If you are trying to convince me that this product was the best a group of bombers can put forth...we are gonna have to part intellectual company. It is what is is.
Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at May 04, 2010 07:39 AM (uFdnM)
All these years after 9/11, please tell me why we are granting US citizenship to young muslim males from Pakistan!!!!!! The borders are completely wide open on all sides from every direction, NOBODY is guarding the gates or even pretending to keep us safe. I'm so sick of the red party vs the blue party, I don't think either party gives a rats rump about us, you know, average ordinary citizens who pay our taxes and actually keep the country going.
Posted by: Boots at May 04, 2010 07:42 AM (06JTY)
Posted by: snapdragon at May 04, 2010 07:47 AM (5Etcj)
Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at May 04, 2010 11:39 AM (uFdnM)
I think he got in a hurry and just messed up. Supposedly the FBI had been "watching" his old house for a "couple" of days before the event. Plain and simple he panicked and screwed up.
Posted by: Johnnyreb at May 04, 2010 07:47 AM (Mv/2X)
I'm so sick of the red party vs the blue party, I don't think either party gives a rats rump about us, you know, average ordinary citizens who pay our taxes and actually keep the country going.
Congratulations! You've broken the code. Please come up to the stage and claim your gift certificate, good for a one-year subscription to AoSHQ along with the cap from a Valu-Rite bottle.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at May 04, 2010 07:47 AM (i3AsK)
All these years after 9/11, please tell me why we are granting US citizenship to young muslim males from Pakistan!!!!!!
Because Diversity is Strength, And War is Peace, and Freedom is Slavery.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 04, 2010 07:48 AM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 04, 2010 07:50 AM (7r6KT)
And stylishly, at that.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 04, 2010 07:51 AM (mR7mk)
So what good does it do us to advertise to the world what went wrong? Why admit it was the "wrong fertilizer" or call it "amateurish?"
Seems to me we would be better off not educating those that want to harm us. Just get the bastards and not divulge information that can be used against us.
Please someone 'splain it this moron.
Posted by: Pike Place Pete at May 04, 2010 07:54 AM (MzTRc)
Thankfully, the EU has fucked up worse than us. And the dollar is rallying.
Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at May 04, 2010 07:54 AM (uFdnM)
The men and women involved counterterrorism in NYC are extremely competent (even if the mayor is a world class douchebag with no understanding of anything other than finance) and have more experience with terrorists than anyone other collection in the US. The NYPD has been busting islamic fundamentalist terrorists regularly for almost 20 years, longer than anyone else.
Posted by: Penfold at May 04, 2010 07:55 AM (1PeEC)
The men and women involved counterterrorism in NYC are extremely competent (even if the mayor is a world class douchebag with no understanding of anything other than finance) and have more experience with terrorists than anyone other collection in the US. The NYPD has been busting islamic fundamentalist terrorists regularly for almost 20 years, longer than anyone else.
A voice of reason. Bless you.
Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at May 04, 2010 07:58 AM (uFdnM)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 04, 2010 08:01 AM (ucxC/)
Or, they could have thrown him off the plane when it was several thousand feet in the air, thus sparing the taxpayers the expense of an expensive civilian show-trial, wherein this dirt-bag gets to lecture the US about proper respect for the world's largest death cult--something Obama and Holder would prefer.
Just sayin'.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 04, 2010 08:01 AM (eNxMU)
Posted by: 11B40 at May 04, 2010 08:06 AM (zrSV1)
I can't even imagine a scenario where they would admit that.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 04, 2010 08:07 AM (mR7mk)
When all is said and done, Faisal is still in custody as are other people of interest.
Personally, if it is ok with you, I'd rather not have to encouter a smoking SUV strolling downtown on a weekend night.
Posted by: always right at May 04, 2010 08:09 AM (7GfKM)
Thankfully, the EU has fucked up worse than us. And the dollar is rallying.
It's sad when the only reason the dollar hasn't turned into toilet paper is because the Euro is plunging even faster and most of the rest of the world has always used funny money.
What are Swiss francs doing?
Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 04, 2010 08:09 AM (ujg0T)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at May 04, 2010 11:33 AM (7VvJB)
You are never going to hear (from the authorities) about that guy again.
Posted by: Janet N at May 04, 2010 08:09 AM (/NlBw)
Posted by: Soon to be Ex-ExZonie at May 04, 2010 08:10 AM (as47X)
When all is said and done, Faisal is still in custody as are other people of interest.
Personally, if it is ok with you, I'd rather not have to encounter a smoking SUV strolling downtown on a weekend night.
Posted by: always right at May 04, 2010 12:09 PM (7GfKM)
I thought New York banned smoking anywhere downtown??
Posted by: Soon to be Ex-ExZonie at May 04, 2010 08:12 AM (as47X)
Or, they could have thrown him off the plane when it was several thousand feet in the air, thus sparing the taxpayers the expense of an expensive civilian show-trial, wherein this dirt-bag gets to lecture the US about proper respect for the world's largest death cult--something Obama and Holder would prefer.
Just sayin'.
But where would he be most productively dropped? Probably over a fallow field where his remains could be plowed under as organic fertilizer.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 04, 2010 08:12 AM (ujg0T)
"Jugeared Prez! Jugeared Prez! Forever they will hold his banner high...."
Sing the praise for hope 'n change to fiscal policy!
B - A - R....are you ready to spread the wealth?
A - C - K...'kay, you've made enough money!
O - B - A - M - Aaaaaaaa....
Posted by: reason at May 04, 2010 08:12 AM (+hPIb)
The really screwed up part is that the US had a muslim population of about ZERO for the great bulk of our existence. It wasn't until the black muslims that we had even a small percent (and most muslims didn't consider black muslims to be muslims) and then, all of a sudden, we started importing muslims like they were going out of style - ramping up after the fall of the USSR (for some insane reason) and stepped up after 9/11. The Traitor-in-Chief gets away with the ridiculous claim that "muslims have contributed a lot to America", which was patently false and showed how little the imbecile knows about America (in addition to his offensive "America could be considered one of the largest muslim nations").
America seems to be unable to learn this lesson. The authorities will keep pushing America into the abyss until Americans finally say, "Enough!" Unfortunately, America will likely split long before that, as the Indonesian Imbecile is pushing this nation to the brink, on purpose, and that is a goal that, given the power he has been handed, even an inept boob like The Precedent can accomplish. Chaos is easier to generate than order and productivity.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at May 04, 2010 08:18 AM (Qp4DT)
Posted by: Bloomberg at May 04, 2010 12:16 PM (EL+OC)
That's his main concern. What an asshole
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 04, 2010 08:18 AM (1Jaio)
heh, Karl Denninger over at Market Ticker
sounds like a moron to me
"You have it wrong Mayor, and your joining in this intentional and outrageous misdirection campaign marks you as a douchebag of the highest order."
Posted by: The Great Satan's Ghost at May 04, 2010 08:18 AM (7IPeP)
Love it. Dumbass was thinking, "Whew, I'm home free!" I wonder what the pucker factor number was when the plane started heading back.
He's probably still pulling airline upholstery out of his ass.
Posted by: schizuki at May 04, 2010 08:29 AM (Xd9fe)
Bloomberg was last seen crying his eyes out, because the guy they caught was not a handgun owning, NRA member, registered voter, middle-aged white man Tea Partier. He is now just so very distraught.
Posted by: ThomNJ at May 04, 2010 08:29 AM (Z6jGw)
8+ years after 9/11 and we're still treating old ladies at airports like they are prison drug mules but this can happen? The system is not working.
Welcome to the Democrat/Obama/Muslim system that is working as planned. Crisis, catastrophe, incompetence, sedition. Yeah baby, tear it down.
Posted by: kansas at May 04, 2010 08:30 AM (mka2b)
Bloomberg and his ilk are actually TRYING to bait the right into violence.
At some point, we should take them up on that, but for the next few years, it's more fun to watch them cry "wolf!" (or "T-BAGGRZ" as the case may be).
Posted by: hobgoblin at May 04, 2010 08:31 AM (PpeVF)
"I wonder what the pucker factor number was when the plane started heading back."
I would imagine that the captain got on the PA with a little fib about needing to head back for some sort of maintenance matter. Keep the suspect unaware until the doors are open and the big guys with guns are halfway through Business Class...
Posted by: reason at May 04, 2010 08:33 AM (sPO/s)
I didn't check out the guy's link, but a sane Hot Air commenter (there are a few still left there) said the ticket was one-way and bought with cash. No warning signals there. Oh, and "Spread 'em, granny! You're number twelve in line!"
Posted by: andycanuck at May 04, 2010 08:36 AM (ocax6)
"Bloomberg and his ilk are actually TRYING to bait the right into violence."
Is hoping for a landslide for Bloomie's opponent next election cycle considered violent rhetoric? Landslides...you know...actual ones that happen from global warming...those things can kill people...
Posted by: reason at May 04, 2010 08:37 AM (sPO/s)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 04, 2010 08:38 AM (UOM48)
Barry said we'd have to be making some sacrifices. *snort*
Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 04, 2010 08:40 AM (mR7mk)
Posted by: snapdragon at May 04, 2010 11:47 AM (5Etcj)
Seriously? IMO, Congrats to the hot dog vendor who noticed a smoking car.
Posted by: Timbo at May 04, 2010 08:41 AM (7GgDy)
Posted by: President for Life Barry O at May 04, 2010 08:43 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: shoey at May 04, 2010 08:43 AM (yCH89)
Posted by: MSNBC at May 04, 2010 08:46 AM (64S5N)
Mark Steyn and my fix:
Whenever something goofy happens — bomb in Times Square, mass shootings at a US military base, etc. — there seem to be two kinds of reactions:
a) Some people go, "Hmm. I wonder if this involves some guy with a name like Mohammed who has e-mails from Yemen."
b) Other people go, "Don't worry, there's no connection to terrorism, and anyway, even if there is, it's all very amateurish, and besides he's most likely an isolated extremist or lone wolf."
Unfortunately, everyone in category (b) seems to work for the government or is in media or Hollywood.
Posted by: Pike Place Pete at May 04, 2010 08:52 AM (MzTRc)
theres another possibility here vis-a-vis the dude getting all the way ONTO the plane before being apprehended...I dont know if this is what authorities were thinking to do, but:
If you let the guy get on the plane he has no where left to hide.
If at any time he's wandering thru the airport or cabbing it around to the airport or whatever, the dude has any number of outs. But if you know that this guy is your guy and you funnel him onto the plane, you place him in a Venus Fly trap from which he cannot emerge.
Posted by: mike d at May 04, 2010 08:53 AM (W0V5W)
Bloomberg's media empire is going to broadcast his theories far and wide as the lamestream media bends over to maintain access.
Posted by: wtfci at May 04, 2010 08:53 AM (+zo63)
Him too.
Congrats all around.
Whining about a success like this just makes us all look bad.
Posted by: snapdragon at May 04, 2010 08:54 AM (5Etcj)
You can't get good results with bullshit.
Posted by: sifty at May 04, 2010 08:55 AM (mfZ17)
Posted by: SarahW at May 04, 2010 09:01 AM (Z4T49)
Posted by: SarahW at May 04, 2010 09:02 AM (Z4T49)
Posted by: sifty at May 04, 2010 09:04 AM (mfZ17)
FWIW, even ammonium nitrate doesn't explode unless set off with something like dynamite, unless it's mixed with fuel (McVeigh used ammonium nitrate mixed with diesel)
It still requires a substantial primer charge, preferrably with a booster such as RDX.
Posted by: maddogg at May 04, 2010 09:04 AM (OlN4e)
Him too.
Congrats all around.
Whining about a success like this just makes us all look bad.
Posted by: snapdragon at May 04, 2010 12:54 PM (5Etcj)
I'm whining? WTF did Obama do?
Posted by: Timbo at May 04, 2010 09:07 AM (7GgDy)
/sarc, obviously.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 04, 2010 09:10 AM (UOM48)
I'm with sifty on this.
Seriously, please consider canning the "how I could have made it better" banter. We don't need to give fodder to all both of the readers on whatever liberal version that goes all DUFU on AoSHQ is out there...
I'm glad you know how to do this. Really. Yay, you. But do we really need to be giving alexthechick any ideas? I mean, she's already started drinking...
Posted by: reason at May 04, 2010 09:17 AM (V40IZ)
Pakistani militants 'planning wave of strikes on US' Pakistani militants are planning a wave of strikes against American targets following the failed bombing of Times Square, according to analysts. By Rob Crilly in Islamabad
Published: 2:39PM BST 04 May 2010
Hakimullah Mehsud, leader of the Pakistan Taliban, calls on supporters to attack US cities in two video messages broadcast at the weekend.
Experts with IntelCenter, which monitors terrorist groups for law enforcement agencies, said the footage suggests that the cells may already be active.
"Messaging analysis and other indicators are increasingly pointing to a high threat of additional strikes utilising the same or varying tactics against a variety of targets, most likely focusing on mass casualties, in the days and weeks ahead," the IntelCenter report concluded, though it said that other scenarios were possible.Mehsud's group, Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan, claimed responsibility for the failed bombing of Times Square in New York on Sunday.
IntelCenter concluded that the two subsequent video messages, threatening further strikes without detailing specific targets or dates, had been recorded for use once the first attack had taken place.
"This may have been done because the operational cell(s) on the ground had general timing guidance but were able to set the final execution time based on its readiness and target availability," it said.
However, experts initially dismissed the Taliban's claims of responsibility, questioning whether Mehsud's fighters had the capacity to launch an attack so far from their bases in Pakistan's north-western tribal belt.
Now the arrest of a Pakistani man, Faisal Shahzad, in connection with the Times Square bomb has refocused attention on the TTP and its potential links to jihadi groups with global ambitions.
In particular, some Kashmiri militants disillusioned by what they as see as betrayal by Pakistan security forces are thought to have moved into tribal areas, bringing plans for a global jihad with them.
Talat Massood, a military analyst and former Lieutenant General in the Pakistan army, said: "The disgruntled jihadis are joining hands and using the sanctuary and working against intelligence services and probably linking with al-Qaeda."
Posted by: stuiec at May 04, 2010 09:18 AM (W+GYq)
Is hoping for a landslide for Bloomie's opponent next election cycle considered violent rhetoric? Landslides...you know...actual ones that happen from global warming...those things can kill people...
Posted by: reason at May 04, 2010 12:37 PM (sPO/s)
Bloomberg only just got re-elected. He won't be up for re-election for 3-plus years. But hopefully his verbal diarrhea in this case will keep him from making an indy run for President.
Posted by: stuiec at May 04, 2010 09:21 AM (W+GYq)
If he was willing to go up with the truck, he would have been successful. All he would have needed to do was use the Ignition System in the SUV for a Detonator rather than his Paddington Bear Alarm Clock.
We are lucky that he was/is a coward.
Posted by: garrett at May 04, 2010 09:22 AM (XB1Vi)
The hippies piss themselves every time they see a gun-rack in an old Ford pickup.
Believe me, we win on the "know how" thing.
I don't mean to sound all "concerned".
Posted by: sifty at May 04, 2010 09:23 AM (mfZ17)
Posted by: ManeiNeko at May 04, 2010 09:24 AM (TiE76)
Newsbusters.org:
BARACK OBAMA: This incident is another sobering reminder of the times in which we live. Around the world and here at home, there are those who would attack our citizens and who would slaughter innocent men, women and children in pursuit of their murderous agenda. They will stop at nothing to kill and disrupt our way of life, but once again an attempted attack has been [awkward pause] failed.You just know PBO wanted to say that the attempted attacked had been "stopped" or "thwarted." There was just one little problem . . .
As former anti-terrorism czar Richard Clarke, no conservative ideologue, has observed, the authorities:
would not have been able to have stopped the bomb if it had been wired properly. Someone was able to drive into New York with what looks like bomb parts, drive right into the heart of Times Square, pull up on the sidewalk, jump up and run away and not get caught.
The feds and local law enforcement apparently did a very good job of apprehending the suspect after the attempted attack. But they did nothing to "fail" it. That of course didn't stop PBO from claiming, a bit later in his remarks, that the authorities "may have saved hundreds of lives."
Posted by: Pike Place Pete at May 04, 2010 09:25 AM (MzTRc)
Posted by: SarahW at May 04, 2010 09:25 AM (Z4T49)
Posted by: Pike Place Pete at May 04, 2010 01:25 PM (MzTRc)
But you're not granting proper credit to the Presidential rabbit's foot. Which is what passes for proactive policy these days.
Posted by: stuiec at May 04, 2010 09:28 AM (W+GYq)
it doesn't mean the gun was "harmless".
Posted by: sifty at May 04, 2010 09:28 AM (mfZ17)
This administration makes Carter's look like Reagan's.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 04, 2010 09:28 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: SarahW at May 04, 2010 09:29 AM (Z4T49)
Posted by: sifty at May 04, 2010 09:30 AM (mfZ17)
Two questions spring to mind for me, first of all why is he claiming to have been a “lone wolf” when it seems like they are already rounding up other people in conjunction with this attack. And secondly, his house was in foreclosure, but this is curious because I thought part of the Islamic religion was not to be in debt so I thought that typically Muslims who practice Islam do not take out mortgages on their homes. Isn’t that the purpose of Sharia finance?
Also, gee thanks, glad to know that the jihadis in Pakistan are planning a series of attacks in the upcoming weeks. Law of averages says not all of them are going to be idiots and at least one attack will eventually succeed. Of course our government is apparently dismissing this chatter, as they dismissed the fact that the failed bomber could be a jihadist at first because there was no active chatter ahead of Saturday.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at May 04, 2010 09:30 AM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: stuiec at May 04, 2010 09:32 AM (W+GYq)
Big sis is on air right now. All congratulatory chin music about the people who spotted this scumbag and stopped it and how great their systems are. Not a word about what they are going to to do prevent ACLU assholes, or CAIR assholes or anything else about preventing this crap. John Pistole FBI deputy director, just said at the plane the shaheed was questioned by cops "under the public safety exception to the Miranda rule.' He was mirandized later. Shit.
Oh, prevention will be our endgame, calling out hot dog vendors.
Now Kelly is on.
Posted by: vivi at May 04, 2010 09:32 AM (84HQT)
Bloomberg's media empire is going to broadcast his theories far and wide as the lamestream media bends over to maintain access.
Posted by: wtfci at May 04, 2010 12:53 PM (+zo63)
Fergot Ahnuhld.
Posted by: Barbarian at May 04, 2010 09:32 AM (EL+OC)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 04, 2010 09:33 AM (1Jaio)
Why the hell are they revealing that there is a HIDDEN VIN Number under the car...?
Now Kelly is connecting this VIN break in the case with the first WTC bombing. The key is to link this shaheed with foreign terrorists, so he can get a military trial and not a civilian trial. They nailed him in 53 hours and 23 minutes from the incident. Kelly is teh bomb.
"In the eyes of terrorists, New York IS American and they want to come back and kill us." Kelly for Mayor.
Do you think Holder has finally gotten that little point?
Posted by: vivi at May 04, 2010 09:36 AM (84HQT)
Hi. I"m John McCain, failed Presidential candidate and Senator from Arizona. Please vote for me.
Posted by: Non-Maverick at May 04, 2010 09:40 AM (EL+OC)
Aha! someone asked the "how come this guy got on the plane" question. Big sis didn't really address that.
Holder asked about shaheed military training, referred to the quesitions being put to shaheed. Pistole talking about shaheed id'd as a person of interest, one of a number and provided info to a number of agencies to stop that shaheed. The reporters are still hitting the travel to pakistan aspect.
NO ONE IS ASKING ABOUT GAINING CITIZENSHIP AS AN ALQ TACTIC.
Shaheed was screened when he came back to the US from Pakistan. Big sis noted that and added that he "Is a naturalized american citizen" and stopped at that.
Posted by: vivi at May 04, 2010 09:41 AM (84HQT)
"how long questioned under miranda exception"
Pistole won't say how long questioned. He provided valuable info and he was mirandized later.
How close were you to losing him on the flight...you had ID'd him on Sunday night?
Still no good answer. Oh, but Holder was never in any fear of losing him.
Holder asked about KSM trial...Holder said NY and DC will always be a target and considering a number of venues for the trial and NYC is still on the list. Asshole.
Posted by: vivi at May 04, 2010 09:44 AM (84HQT)
reporter said "for 8 years we didn't have this kind of pacing in plots and there seems to be a pickup in pacing now."
Kelly keeps saying "These guys are trying to kill us." Thankyou Kelly.
Posted by: vivi at May 04, 2010 09:47 AM (84HQT)
More mindless liberal drivel from the lamestream media. No wonder their ratings are in the toilet:
CNN anchor: "It can confirmed that his house has been foreclosed in recent years. I mean, one would have to imagine that brought a lot of pressure and a lot of heartache on that family."
MSNBC's CONTESSA BREWER (7:06): I mean the thing is is that and I get frustrated and there was part of me that was hoping this was not going to be anybody with ties to any kind of Islamic country because there are a lot of people who want to use this terrorist intent to justify writing off people who believe in a certain way or come from certain countries or whose skin color is a certain way. I mean they use it as justification for really outdated bigotry.
So what religion were you hoping he had, Tess? Why don't you focus on the REALLY IMPORTANT things, like you did here:
Today MSNBC decided to forego substantive discussion of terrorism and instead focused on the fact that former President Bill Clinton’s sock had slipped and part of his “white” leg was showing during his interview with Fox News Sunday host Chris Wallace. The MSNBC host asked her guests, “Is this a travesty or what?”
HOST: Well, people haven’t just been talking about Bill Clinton’s red face in that Fox News interview and all the anger and the finger pointing, but some have been focusing on Clinton’s white legs. The former president showing off a little leg during the sitdown with Chris Wallace. We’re going to show you that, and that’s left some — see, there it is, a little glimpse of leg. Well, how does this happen? … I mean — is this a travesty or what?
Posted by: Pike Place Pete at May 04, 2010 09:49 AM (MzTRc)
Shaheed was screened when he came back to the US from Pakistan. Big sis noted that and added that he "Is a naturalized american citizen" and stopped at that.
Posted by: viviUm, he didn't die and it doesn't look like he intended to either. So calling him 'Shaheed' just looks like you really dig this guy.
He's a shitbird. Just leave it at that.
Posted by: Garbonzo the Garrulous at May 04, 2010 10:05 AM (zgd5N)
He was also tired of living in a city that was almost destroyed by Democrat progressive policies and policing, cleaned up by a sort of Republican then taken over by a whiny voiced RINO who showed his true colors by turning 'Independent' and is now being a really, really nanny state bitch. (oh wait, that was me.)
I don't know what this idiots problem was. He's 'cooperating' with the Feds. When are they gonna Mirandize him? The New York chapter of CAIR and the ACLU want to know.
Posted by: jakee308 at May 04, 2010 10:29 AM (fs3Za)
Anyone who played with Estes rockets knows how to gut them for use in all manor of explosive fun. Stupid or not, he shouldnt have been allowed to get on a plane to make a second attempt.
Posted by: Schwalbe at May 04, 2010 10:46 AM (UU0OF)
Posted by: Janet Napolitano at May 04, 2010 11:17 AM (qjslv)
Mayor Bloomberg emails to say, "We are investigating reports this individual was heading to Pakistan, not to escape law enforcement but because he can't stand living in the US now that health care reform has been signed into law".
Heh. Pakistan is the world headquarters for blue-haired old ladies.
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