April 08, 2010

Today in a Nutshell
— Gabriel Malor

All the news we were too busy to bring you in one easy post.

GOP governors are going around their Democratic attorney generals to sue the federal government over Obama's intended destruction of the best healthcare system in the world. Governors Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota, Jan Brewer of Arizona, and Jim Gibbons of Nevada are all getting into the act.

Also on that front, several states are pulling together legislation to prohibit abortion coverage in health plans under the bill. Tennessee, Oklahoma, Missouri, Mississippi, Kansas and Arizona are working on bills for that.

Recent polls that caught my eye: 31% still think Bush is to blame for the economy. Democrats in Congress were blamed by 16%, while President Obama was blamed by 14%.

And a record low 28% believe that Congress should be reelected.

Finally, in the "makes you go 'huh'" department, non-shoebombing dunderhead Al Modadi was on his way to Denver to meet with convicted Al Qaeda agent Ali Al-Marri.

This is an open thread; all topics welcome.

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1 Thank you!  *falls sobbing to knees*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 08, 2010 05:37 PM (UOM48)

2 At this rate, you guys could do 4 posts a day.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at April 08, 2010 05:37 PM (I1/U/)

3 What, was it two-for-one donated cheese day at the Salvation Army store today?

Posted by: Monty at April 08, 2010 05:38 PM (fv/Qk)

4 *GASP*

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at April 08, 2010 05:38 PM (H+d3B)

5 Add our Georgia gov to the list of ones going around jackass AG's. 

Gov. Perdue = blind hog+acorn.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 08, 2010 05:38 PM (UOM48)

6 Why were you so busy?Tax paying suckers...just make sure the checks clear....

Posted by: 47% who pay no income tax at April 08, 2010 05:39 PM (uQJYO)

7 Finally, in the "makes you go 'huh'" department, non-shoebombing dunderhead Al Modadi was on his way to Denver to meet with convicted Al Qaeda agent Ali Al-Marri.

You know, there are a lot of things that makes me want to say, but "huh" is not one of them.

Posted by: Bomber at April 08, 2010 05:40 PM (d88g9)

8 I guess the last thread was dead. No?

Posted by: Ronster at April 08, 2010 05:40 PM (Xu6d3)

9 Wow, this place is nice! A lot roomier! Is that new carpet? Really? I could smell it! I love that smell.

Posted by: Dang at April 08, 2010 05:40 PM (UA4gE)

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 08, 2010 05:40 PM (8svDv)

11 Bless you Gabe, bless you!

Here's how I feel right now!

Dante Goes to Purgatory

/Ending spoiler to Dante's Inferno, and gaming nudity so NSFW.  Don't say I didn't warn you!

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at April 08, 2010 05:40 PM (c0A3e)

12 I call BS on that poll.

Posted by: Cincinnatus at April 08, 2010 05:40 PM (euuyg)

13 I think we discussed most of these topics in the other thread, plus some interesting stuff.

Posted by: Dr. Spank at April 08, 2010 05:41 PM (I1/U/)

14 @11
Is Shannon Tweed in it?

Posted by: mpfs at April 08, 2010 05:41 PM (QuP9W)

15 Heh. Gabe said "dunderhead" again. Heh.

Posted by: Beavis at April 08, 2010 05:42 PM (554T5)

16 I again ask that everyone read Andy McCarthy's peice on General Petreus over at NRO.It is more bad news but kno0wledge is power.

Posted by: steevy at April 08, 2010 05:42 PM (uQJYO)

17 Also on that front, several states are pulling together legislation to prohibit abortion coverage in health plans under the bill. Tennessee, Oklahoma, Missouri, Mississippi, Kansas and Arizona are working on bills for that.

Nullification is on its way. Secession isn't far behind.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 08, 2010 05:43 PM (N49h9)

Posted by: rdbrewer at April 08, 2010 05:43 PM (ZLIb7)

19 that 38% number is not so bad, remember when it was 80% last year? independents have gone from "It's all Bush's fault" to "well, everyone had a part in it", I think by next year they'll be pointing at the guy they elected (Obama)...it's what independents do

Posted by: YRM at April 08, 2010 05:43 PM (38UQ3)

20 I kinda liked the old thread.

Posted by: bergerbilder at April 08, 2010 05:43 PM (S1Ttj)

21 Q. How much do you blame Bush for the sucky economy?

Q. How hard is it for Obama's brilliance to heal the economy Bush wrecked?

Posted by: Harris Poll at April 08, 2010 05:43 PM (sYxEE)

22 And some Republican AGs are suing despite Democrat governors, such as AG Tom Corbett suing the feds despite Gov Fast Eddie in PA.

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at April 08, 2010 05:43 PM (c0A3e)

23 Not to mention BHO refusing US visas to Israeli nuclear physicists.

Posted by: Albert Einstein at April 08, 2010 05:43 PM (d7Px0)

24 "Thirty-one percent of the 2,344 adults surveyed said Bush deserves the most blame for a rough economy, leading the second-place Wall Street by 6 percentage points."  
 

Posted by: Jim in San Diego at April 08, 2010 05:44 PM (F09Uo)

Posted by: sifty at April 08, 2010 05:44 PM (V8nT2)

26 Dammit. I tracked Peeps® vomit in here. Sorry. Look, it's coming off. Sorry, no it's not. Dammit. Sorry. Did you get the Scotchgard™? No? You should have gotten the ScotchGard™.

Posted by: Dang at April 08, 2010 05:44 PM (UA4gE)

27 If 72% of the people will vote the Democrats out in November, I'm willing to accept that a large portion of them blame Bush for the economy.

If they'll vote Obama out in 2012, I'll even accept that they still like him.

I'm feeling magnanimous today.

Posted by: SlaveDog at April 08, 2010 05:45 PM (W+E+o)

28 Please, no one mention s-o-m-e-g-u-y. Ok?

Posted by: conscious and cruising into the night at April 08, 2010 05:45 PM (YVZlY)

29 14 @11
Is Shannon Tweed in it?

Heh, there is a naked blonde chick, and a naked dude that looks sort of like Gerald Butler.

/I liked that ending because it's redemptive, going from Hell to Purgatory.  The music doesn't hurt either.

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at April 08, 2010 05:45 PM (c0A3e)

30 "best healthcare system in the world" Yes... that's why we have amongst the highest rate of diabetes, heart disease, asthma, cancer, etc... Oh... and it is the most expensive in the industrialized world and covers the least number of people. Brilliant!

Posted by: Johnny at April 08, 2010 05:45 PM (1+c7l)

31 David Shuster "not moral, ethical, or professional," according to the MSNBC president.

Shuster's cardinal sin was screen testing for CNN.  MSNBC wouldn't have a problem with his morals and ethics if he'd raped and killed a child live on the air as long as he shilled the network

Posted by: kbdabear at April 08, 2010 05:45 PM (sYxEE)

32 Hannity is hitting Granholm hard, constantly pointing out her bad approvals and favorables, how she was elected twice I don't understand...

Posted by: YRM at April 08, 2010 05:45 PM (38UQ3)

33

"You Picked a Fine Time to Lead Us, Barack"

http://tinyurl.com/y97ujqb

Posted by: Kenny Rogers at April 08, 2010 05:46 PM (d7Px0)

34 Any poll with Bush still in it , ain't a poll, it's pure spin.

Posted by: ontherocks at April 08, 2010 05:46 PM (HBqDo)

35 > how she was elected twice I don't understand...

stupid people. next question...

Posted by: Jones at April 08, 2010 05:46 PM (JL3qV)

36 Busy working on the Heavy Seas. Hop3 ale that is. That and black berry eating my snark laden posts.

Posted by: sTevo at April 08, 2010 05:46 PM (Ka3MA)

37 20 I kinda liked the old thread.

Oh, you can keep it!

Posted by: Barack H. Fuck You I Won Obama at April 08, 2010 05:47 PM (H+d3B)

38 Nullification is on its way. Secession isn't far behind.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 08, 2010 09:43 PM (N49h9)


Thank God Kansas jumped on this. Sometimes they can be real pussies about this sort of stuff.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at April 08, 2010 05:47 PM (nxUYP)

39 38% still think Bush is to blame for the economy.

Yeah, it is terrible the way his cronies ran Fannie Mae, and thereby the country into the ground while he kept opposing any reform of the whole corrupt system.

Oh...that's exactly the opposite of what he did isn't it?

Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2010 05:48 PM (bgcml)

40 >>Oh... and it is the most expensive in the industrialized world and covers the least number of people.

And this is going to change under ObamaCare how?

Not that the original assertion was accurate to begin with.

Posted by: SlaveDog at April 08, 2010 05:48 PM (W+E+o)

41 Open thread?  OK:  Romney may not be Palin on your eroto-conservative meter, but he isn't McCain/a RINO.  He's sufficiently conservative to win the general if he can win the primary; and he has the skill set to de-Obamao our great Republic.

Thank you.

Posted by: ParisParamus at April 08, 2010 05:48 PM (XVJ0J)

42 Has anyone seen my wallet? I think I left it in the other thread. Pardon me.

Posted by: Dang at April 08, 2010 05:48 PM (UA4gE)

43 watching video of Breitbartt confronting the AFL-CIO President, I wish more conservatives were like that...

Posted by: YRM at April 08, 2010 05:48 PM (38UQ3)

44 Yes... that's why we have amongst the highest rate of diabetes, heart disease, asthma, cancer, etc..

We have the fastest and highest treatment rate in the world. You can really pad your statistics if you give a cancer patient a pill and a pamphlet.

And I'd like a source for your statistics other than the script of Law & Order

Posted by: kbdabear at April 08, 2010 05:48 PM (sYxEE)

45 I like watching the top golfers in action, but can someone tell me why The Masters is treated like saints playing golf in church?

Posted by: Jones at April 08, 2010 05:48 PM (JL3qV)

46 #30  First catch of the day!

Yes... that's why we have amongst the highest rate of diabetes, heart disease, asthma, cancer, etc...

Proof, or I call BS.

Oh... and it is the most expensive in the industrialized world and covers the least number of people.

Gotta pay for quality, friend.  Just the way of the world.  In Britian, simply having that NHS doesn't mean you'll be treated.  In fact, if you were paying attention, they need people to perish so as to not overburden the state (and have admitted as such).

Now, be gone, fly from the ass of Axelrod!

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at April 08, 2010 05:48 PM (c0A3e)

47 "best healthcare system in the world"

Yes... that's why we have amongst the highest rate of diabetes, heart disease, asthma, cancer, etc...

Oh... and it is the most expensive in the industrialized world and covers the least number of people.

Brilliant!

Posted by: Johnny at April 08, 2010 09:45 PM (1+c7l)


A spinchter says what?

Posted by: Samuel Adams at April 08, 2010 05:49 PM (nxUYP)

Posted by: David Shuster at April 08, 2010 05:49 PM (bgcml)

49 I call shenanigans on that poll too.  I would like to see the internals of that poll, because reading the story, they do not give the breakdowns of repubs and the demons.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at April 08, 2010 05:49 PM (7VvJB)

50 Of course, when Bush was President, all we ever had was constant polls about how Clinton sucked...

Posted by: rawmuse at April 08, 2010 05:49 PM (OQ3LO)

51 #45  And I'd like a source for your statistics other than the script of Law & Order.

That show should have been given a mercy killing a long time ago.

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at April 08, 2010 05:50 PM (c0A3e)

52 someone mentioned this in the other thread, couldn't find it on drudge but found it here:  "Newly Discovered Asteroid Will Pass by Earth April 8"

Posted by: curious at April 08, 2010 05:50 PM (p302b)

53 35 > how she was elected twice I don't understand...

Detroit is still in Michigan, isn't it?

Posted by: kbdabear at April 08, 2010 05:50 PM (sYxEE)

54

Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2010 09:48 PM (bgcml)

he tried reforming it and Democrats kept him from doing so back in 2005


Posted by: ParisParamus at April 08, 2010 09:48 PM (XVJ0J)

I think he can beat Obama, but the Romneycare stuff is something he'll have to deal with

Posted by: YRM at April 08, 2010 05:51 PM (38UQ3)

55

Why should I put a green laser on my Remington 870 when I can aim it in the dark better than my dick?

Posted by: Ed Anger at April 08, 2010 05:51 PM (7+pP9)

56 38% still think Bush is to blame for the economy.

That's probably because the CRA has not been repealed and no one in the GOP leadership has ever really spoken about repealing it.  The GOP leadership acts as if the CRA doesn't even exist, and has acted that way since the credit crisis hit.

With leadership like this refusing to hit the bullseye right in front of their faces, what can be expected.

Meanwhile, the lunatic left never had any problems pushing their America-hating idiocy, as Maxine Waters interrogated Bernanke about making sure that minority and women-owned businesses got a piece of the huge pie managing the toxic assets that TARP was supposed to buy.  (Of course, TARP never went to buying any toxic assets, at all, but this was in the original house hearings, when the big lie about TARP was being accepted by the idiots).

Of course, the fact that Bawney Fwank and Chris Dodderhead are not in jail is clear proof that the mess of the credit crisis has not been handled by anyone.  So ... America continues to not have a clue as to what happened.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 08, 2010 05:52 PM (N49h9)

58 >Open thread?  OK:  Romney may not be Palin on your eroto-conservative meter, but he isn't McCain/a RINO.  He's sufficiently conservative to win the general if he can win the primary; and he has the skill set to de-Obamao our great Republic.

True. But the MSM will hammer on the fact that he's a Mormon, and they killed some people one time, and they wear special underwear. Remember: it isn't religious bigotry when the Left does it.

Posted by: Jones at April 08, 2010 05:52 PM (JL3qV)

59 can someone tell me why The Masters is treated like saints playing golf in church?

lack of boobies

I was amused to note that one of the judges (or whatever they call the people who make rulings on the course) is a woman. 

Posted by: Y-not at April 08, 2010 05:52 PM (Kn9r7)

60 Oh... and it is the most expensive in the industrialized world and covers the least number of people.

Yes, what we really need is for everyone to be covered, 100%. My dentist told me the other day that Toonces sent him a letter asking him if he was fairly confident he could do a quad bypass after a little online training.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at April 08, 2010 05:52 PM (554T5)

61 A lso the US effectively subsidizes all the wonderful socialist healthcare systems in the world.We,you know,pay and stuff...

Posted by: steevy at April 08, 2010 05:53 PM (uQJYO)

62 Jane, from the city that gave us. Cynthia McKinney and Hank Johnson.  And Hosea, and Andrew young, Maynard Jackson.....   and on and on.......

Posted by: Racefan at April 08, 2010 05:53 PM (i3I5W)

63 Detroit is still in Michigan, isn't it?

Our parliament is currently in negotiations to annex it. It's aboot our need to bring more color and diversity into our country. Eh.

Posted by: Canada at April 08, 2010 05:53 PM (nxUYP)

64 So...Obama denies visas to Israeli nuclear scientists therefore prohibiting them from coming to America, Netanyahu cancels his trip to the nuclear summit to avoid getting thrown under the bus by other Arab countries.

Can we finally admit that Obama, if not an outright Muslim, is a Muslim sympathizer?

Posted by: Miss Cleo at April 08, 2010 05:54 PM (pq986)

65

16 I again ask that everyone read Andy McCarthy's peice on General Petreus over at NRO.It is more bad news but kno0wledge is power.

Read it.  Bad time to be an Israeli.  Hope we all survive the next 2 years, 9 months.

Posted by: Hammer at April 08, 2010 05:54 PM (1kwr2)

66 Louisiana's Buddy Caldwell is the only Democrat AG to be getting on board the HCR suit. Ironically, my Dem AG has displayed more stones over this thing than my GOP governor has.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at April 08, 2010 05:54 PM (H+d3B)

67 Oh... and it is the most expensive in the industrialized world and covers the least number of people.

Brilliant!

Posted by: Johnny at April 08, 2010 09:45 PM (1+c7l)

We pay for the R+D for all the world's medicine, you blithering idiot.  Do you understand the concept of drafting?  The rest of the world drafts off of us. 

And your claim of "covers the least number of people" doesn't even make any sense.  Of course, being a lib, I wouldn't expect you to make sense.  You people are nothing but despicable, lying scumbags with pea-brains. 

Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 08, 2010 05:54 PM (N49h9)

68 Folks, let's try some of that "Smart Diplomacy™" and be nice to the trolls. Don't cuss or anything. Understand where they're coming from. Then, they will like us and can all have a really good time. Really. Start in 5, 4, 3, 2...

Posted by: Dang at April 08, 2010 05:54 PM (UA4gE)

69 Yes... that's why we have amongst the highest rate of diabetes, heart disease, asthma, cancer, etc...

Non-sequitur.  You are confused on the difference between a healthy lifestyle and health care.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 08, 2010 05:55 PM (Gk/wA)

70 hey fuck that shit

Posted by: Jones at April 08, 2010 05:55 PM (JL3qV)

71 63 Detroit is still in Michigan, isn't it?

Our parliament is currently in negotiations to annex it. It's aboot our need to bring more color and diversity into our country. Eh.

Posted by: Canada at April 08, 2010 09:53 PM (nxUYP)


We'll get rid of it for a case of Molson's.  Do we have a deal?

Posted by: chemjeff at April 08, 2010 05:56 PM (Gk/wA)

72 Yes... that's why we have amongst the highest rate of diabetes, heart disease, asthma, cancer, etc... Good news: Lower rates of diabetes, heart disease, asthma and cancer are found in Europe. Bad news: You would actually have to live among Europeans.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 08, 2010 05:56 PM (9Lm5R)

73

59.......  i saw that also...   shes done it for a couple years tho.

 

Posted by: Racefan at April 08, 2010 05:56 PM (i3I5W)

74 that 38% number is not so bad, remember when it was 80% last year? independents have gone from "It's all Bush's fault" to "well, everyone had a part in it", I think by next year they'll be pointing at the guy they elected (Obama)...it's what independents do

Posted by: YRM at April 08, 2010 09:43 PM (38UQ3)

There is a function here of leftist group think also going on too.

Somewhere around 30% of the populace will parrot whatever the leftist line is.

So, you get conservatives to talk about the current recession and you will get a discussion of the real levels of blame for Clinton, the congressional Democrats (and Barney Frank in particular), the crooks at Fannie Mae, incompetence in the banks, social degradation in terms of honor and responsibility, and yes even Bush. 

Get leftists together though and they will blame Bush and move on to how the government can and should force the banks to make more bad loans to people who aren't going to pay them back...

Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2010 05:56 PM (bgcml)

75

Posted by: rawmuse at April 08, 2010 09:49 PM (OQ3LO)

one of the big lib talking points is that Clinton left w/ a 66% approval rating and how evil Bush left w/ a 34% approval rating, yet they never mentioned that when asked to describe the President in one or two words 67% said "liar" about Clinton and 53% said "Good Man" with Dubya, and as far as favorables, Clinton left w/ a 33% favorable and a 53% favorable for Dubya, in other words: people rather hang with Dubya and like him more, they just think Clinton did a better job


Posted by: kbdabear at April 08, 2010 09:50 PM (sYxEE)

MI though almost went to Dubya in 2000 & 2004, losing the state twice by 1-3 points and in the 2008 election, McCain was polling neck and neck with Obama in the state until the financial crisis and McCain abandoning the state

Posted by: YRM at April 08, 2010 05:56 PM (38UQ3)

76 "Johnny" is probably a skank toothed limey.Don't worry Johnny they'll fix your teeth...eventually.

Posted by: steevy at April 08, 2010 05:56 PM (uQJYO)

77 69 Folks, let's try some of that "Smart Diplomacy™" and be nice to the trolls. Don't cuss or anything. Understand where they're coming from. Then, they will like us and can all have a really good time. -------- So... carefully reel them in before we punch them down?

Posted by: Anachronda at April 08, 2010 05:57 PM (LD+ZJ)

78 /I liked that ending because it's redemptive, going from Hell to Purgatory.  The music doesn't hurt either.

Posted by: Kratos (missing from the side of Mt Olympus) at April 08, 2010 09:45 PM (c0A3e)

Purgatory?  At the end of "Dante's Inferno"?  Who could have seen that coming?

Posted by: Whathisname Alighieri at April 08, 2010 05:57 PM (Vo2Ef)

79 I'm liking this Janine Turner on Hannity.

Why are the GOP ladies always so voluptuous and Dem ladies are so old and busted looking?  Why is that?

Posted by: SlaveDog at April 08, 2010 05:57 PM (W+E+o)

80 Non-sequitur.  You are confused on the difference between a healthy lifestyle and health care.

ding, ding, ding!  chemjeff comes through again!

Posted by: Y-not at April 08, 2010 05:57 PM (Kn9r7)

81 Can we finally admit that Obama, if not an outright Muslim, is a Muslim sympathizer?

Posted by: Miss Cleo at April 08, 2010 09:54 PM (pq986)

Come on sweetie, that's just not fair. I'm down with Jews, Christians, Muslims, Hillary Clinton. Its all good.

I just hate representative government.

Posted by: Barack Obama at April 08, 2010 05:58 PM (bgcml)

82 On Romney: He's a decent-enough guy, and if there were any other issue at the forefront besides ObamaCare, I think he'd be a great Prez.  But, sorry, health care is his weakest point, and the next election is going to be all about repealing ObamaCare.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 08, 2010 05:58 PM (Gk/wA)

83

Posted by: Johnny at April 08, 2010 09:45 PM (1+c7l)"

Hey fuckstain, can you ask Barky what this week's total number of uninsured is? 

He keeps going between 30 and 50 million and since you seem to have such a super duper command of the facts, I'd appreciate a little clarity since 20,000,000 is a lot of fucking people to misplace.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at April 08, 2010 05:59 PM (U37Ux)

84

Our parliament is currently in negotiations to annex it. It's aboot our need to bring more color and diversity into our country. Eh.

We'll teach them to work in the mines...

Posted by: Jack Layton, Canadian NDP Party at April 08, 2010 05:59 PM (DgRMW)

85

We'll get rid of it for a case of Molson's.  Do we have a deal?

Posted by: chemjeff at April 08, 2010 09:56 PM (Gk/wA)


Eh, okay. But would it be possible to throw in Palin since she kinda talks like us, or hell, we're desperate, any good-looking woman.

Posted by: Canada at April 08, 2010 05:59 PM (nxUYP)

86

I'm liking this Janine Turner on Hannity.

Of Northern Exposure fame?

Posted by: ErikW at April 08, 2010 05:59 PM (JeBZ+)

87 I again ask that everyone read Andy McCarthy's peice on General Petreus over at NRO. Petraeus is a fairly complicated strategic thinker, and I don't think McCarthy or Max Boot really understand him. But where Israel is concerned, a lot of Pentagon guys are deeply conflicted -- it's not just Petraeus. It's been going on since 1948. The DOD perception of Israel differs from the dunderheaded Arabist clique at State, though. Some military guys liken Israel to Fort Apache: a basically indefensible redoubt deep in enemy territory, and a constant reminder to the savages of what they want but can't have. And Israel can be an unreliable ally. They've sold Western weapons technology to China, they've spied on both America and England (just as we spy on them), and they have deep organized crime ties right into the highest levels of government (mainly due to the influx of Russian jews after the 1989 collapse). Israel tends to throw their weight around a bit more in the region than they would if American might weren't backing them up. But when all is said and done, Israel is the sole island of democracy in a sea of dictatorships and hereditary kingdoms. (Iraq may yet rise to the challenge, but the jury will be out for many years.) Petraeus understands this, and better than most. I think his beef with Israel - to the extent he has one - is with Israel's lack of strategic vision in dealing with the various enemies at the gates. There is no Moshe Dayan, master of both war and peace, to look ahead. Netanyahu is a good politician, but seems bound by the same old modes of thought that have deviled his predecessors for the past thirty years. Israeli politics are even more fractured than the American political scene, and Israel can afford a loss of political will far less than America can. I think Petraeus is, in a way, "preparing the battle space" in case Israel goes ahead with an attack on Iran. He wants to be seen as a critic of Israel who reluctantly comes to the aid of a wayward ally. (It's all smoke and mirrors, because the Arabs want the Israelis to strike Iran more than anyone else -- Iran is a traditional enemy whom they cannot hope to defeat on their own.) Gen. Petraeus may not conform strictly to the conservative viewpoint vis-a-vis Israel, but I can promise you that the man is certainly no dewey-eyed one-world utopian. Like any good soldier, he sees the terrain and uses it to his advantage.

Posted by: Monty at April 08, 2010 05:59 PM (fv/Qk)

88 "73 Yes... that's why we have amongst the highest rate of diabetes, heart disease, asthma, cancer, etc...



Good news: Lower rates of diabetes, heart disease, asthma and cancer are found in Europe.

Bad news: You would actually have to live among Europeans.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 08, 2010 09:56 PM (9Lm5R)"

Which probably explains the high blood pressure?

Posted by: curious at April 08, 2010 06:00 PM (p302b)

89 Why are the GOP ladies always so voluptuous and Dem ladies are so old and busted looking?  Why is that?

Posted by: SlaveDog at April 08, 2010 09:57 PM (W+E+o)

We are not sex objects!

Posted by: Andrea Dworkin at April 08, 2010 06:00 PM (bgcml)

90 Read it.  Bad time to be an Israeli.  Hope we all survive the next 2 years, 9 months.

But Obama is a moderate who said many times that Israel is an important ally and he only wants an agreement to bring peace once and for all

We're brilliant, hip, urbane, and not easily fooled

Posted by: Hip and Brilliant Jewish Leftist at April 08, 2010 06:00 PM (sYxEE)

91 Hey Johnny, you make some really interesting points. I am intrigued. Really. (See how Johnny's shoulders aren't so tense now?)

Posted by: Dang at April 08, 2010 06:01 PM (UA4gE)

92 Thanks, Dang. You're pretty cool. These other guys were being kinda mean and stuff.

Posted by: Johnny at April 08, 2010 06:01 PM (UA4gE)

93 Why are the GOP ladies always so voluptuous and Dem ladies are so old and busted looking?  Why is that?

When your bile duct runs like a fire hydrant 24x7 it just can't be all that beautifying.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at April 08, 2010 06:02 PM (554T5)

94

>>I'm liking this Janine Turner on Hannity.

Of Northern Exposure fame?<<

Well, yes I guess you're right.  It is.  But somehow hotter now.


Posted by: SlaveDog at April 08, 2010 06:02 PM (W+E+o)

95

"Recent polls that caught my eye: 31% still think Bush is to blame for the economy. Democrats in Congress were blamed by 16%, while President Obama was blamed by 14%."

Ok, this country is now officially too stupid to live.

*starts kicking the Yellowstone supervolcano*

C'mon, ya pussy! What's taking so long?

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at April 08, 2010 06:02 PM (kmEfr)

96 Screw the trolls.  Come here repeating the same God-damned lies we've refuted time and time again.  Forget it.  It's a waste of time and electrons.  They aren't interested in debate, they aren't interested in communicating.  It's nothing but rage at Daddy.

Let's talk about something that actually interests us instead.  Like the next Iron Man movie or something. 

Posted by: Trimegistus at April 08, 2010 06:02 PM (fEoAc)

97 We're brilliant, hip, urbane, and not easily fooled

Posted by: Hip and Brilliant American Jewish Leftist at April 08, 2010 10:00 PM (sYxEE)

Didn't fix it, just added to it.

Posted by: Samuel Adams at April 08, 2010 06:02 PM (nxUYP)

98 Y-not thank you

Posted by: chemjeff at April 08, 2010 06:02 PM (Gk/wA)

99

We are not sex objects!

Posted by: Andrea Dworkin at April 08, 2010 10:00 PM (bgcml)

You tell 'em.  Then, I'll bite their heads off!

Posted by: Big Mouth Bella Abzug at April 08, 2010 06:02 PM (N49h9)

100 Bush's anti - AIDS program in Africa (what have we spent there, $30B?) alone should be getting us brownie points from some direction. But no, just more kicks in the teeth. Maybe since it's all about the money anymore we should pull the plug on that program, even if it is the one assistance program that seems to have not made it in to offshore accounts in Monte Carlo.

Posted by: rawmuse at April 08, 2010 06:03 PM (OQ3LO)

101 You know Johnny, I think we could all get along and have a fine time. Beer Summit? (See how Johnny has a tear in his eye and, yes, yes Johnny is hugging me. That's fine Johnny. It's gonna be just fine.)

Posted by: Dang at April 08, 2010 06:03 PM (UA4gE)

102
True. But the MSM will hammer on the fact that he's a Mormon, and they killed some people one time, and they wear special underwear. Remember: it isn't religious bigotry when the Left does it.

Posted by: Jones at April 08, 2010 09:52 PM (JL3qV)

And they will claim Obamacare is the same as Romneycare...

And they will hit Romney on waffling.

And they will paint him as Mr Establishment Big Business.

If the presidential election was in 2010, Romney would be a bad choice. Lucky for him, its not. Unlucky for him I think the trends that hurt his chances will continue into 2012.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 08, 2010 06:03 PM (bgcml)

103

We are not sex objects!

Posted by: Andrea Dworkin at April 08, 2010 10:00 PM (bgcml)


Well that much is obvious.

Posted by: chemjeff at April 08, 2010 06:03 PM (Gk/wA)

104 Detroit is still in Michigan, isn't it?. Actually, it's now a suburb of Windsor.

Posted by: bergerbilder at April 08, 2010 06:04 PM (S1Ttj)

105 Thanks, Dang. You're the best. Think you could smooth things over with the rest of the fellas? I want to vote Republican now.

Posted by: Johnny at April 08, 2010 06:04 PM (UA4gE)

106

You tell 'em.  Then, I'll bite their heads off!

Posted by: Big Mouth Bella Abzug at April 08, 2010 10:02 PM (N49h9)

Come on Bella, we are professionals.

Let me get my tank...

Posted by: Janet Reno at April 08, 2010 06:04 PM (bgcml)

107 look Jones, we dont know why. but it is.......  when you enter Augusta its Holy ground. it means no cussing, no throwing shit on the ground, no spitting. you can drink but dont get crazy drunk. its kinda like the Alamo...  you gotta act right.

Posted by: Racefan at April 08, 2010 06:04 PM (i3I5W)

108 No problem, Johnny. No problemo.

Posted by: Dang at April 08, 2010 06:05 PM (UA4gE)

109 109 look Jones, we dont know why. but it is.......  when you enter Augusta its Holy ground. it means no cussing, no throwing shit on the ground, no spitting. you can drink but dont get crazy drunk.

And no boobies!

Posted by: Y-not is jerking Racefan's chain for no reason at April 08, 2010 06:05 PM (Kn9r7)

110 Yes... that's why we have amongst the highest rate of diabetes, heart disease, asthma, cancer, etc...

Non-sequitur.  You are confused on the difference between a healthy lifestyle and health care.

In addition, the older you get the more likely you are to get any of those.  So in Kenya, living to 36 doesn't quite put you at risk for heart disease.

but thanks for playing troll and helping us fine tune our arguments.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at April 08, 2010 06:05 PM (7VvJB)

111 See there? Smart Diplomacy™.

Posted by: Dang at April 08, 2010 06:06 PM (UA4gE)

112 I once knew a whore from Bishkek, Whose home was a terrible wreck. So in the State of Dubai On her back she did lie, but Cash only, not credit or check. Then she married my mate and moved back to Riyadh with us, But that's a limerick for another time

Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at April 08, 2010 06:06 PM (w9bVp)

113 ONT is up

Posted by: Y-not at April 08, 2010 06:06 PM (Kn9r7)

114 Any "sport" where they shush the crowd is for....how you say in English?....pussies....yes

Posted by: steevy at April 08, 2010 06:06 PM (uQJYO)

115 We're brilliant, hip, urbane, and not easily fooled

Posted by: Hip and Brilliant Jewish Leftist at April 08, 2010 10:00 PM (sYxEE)

Hey guys, I, uh, may not have been the best source for you to base anything important on...like, uh, who you may have voted for. You know I am an entertainer...right?

*Cue snarky look

Posted by: John Stewart at April 08, 2010 06:06 PM (bgcml)

116 Gen. Petraeus may not conform strictly to the conservative viewpoint vis-a-vis Israel, but I can promise you that the man is certainly no dewey-eyed one-world utopian. Like any good soldier, he sees the terrain and uses it to his advantage.

Posted by: Monty at April 08, 2010 09:59 PM (fv/Qk)

After his idiotic babblings about how Israeli settlement activity is the cause of arab aggression and violence (though that has been a hallmark of arab cultures since time immemorial) I have less than no faith in Petraeus.  As far as I am concerned, he is a major problem.  He bought off some arabs for a little while ... big deal, anyone can do that.  But, for him to come out with that absurd crap - which does nothing but whet the appetite for more aggression and violence from the arabs, is just beyond ridiculous.

If Petreaus wants to suck The Precedent's ass, then he could have found some less stupid ways of doing it.  Either he believes what he said (which makes him an idiot) or that is his idea of politicking (which makes him an idiot).

Posted by: Big Mouth Bella Abzug at April 08, 2010 06:08 PM (N49h9)

117 In addition, the older you get the more likely you are to get any of those.  So in Kenya, living to 36 doesn't quite put you at risk for heart disease.

Term I don't hear often in Eurotopia: Cancer survivor

Posted by: kbdabear at April 08, 2010 06:09 PM (sYxEE)

118 Damn!  Forgot to shake that sock off.  I hate when that happens.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at April 08, 2010 06:09 PM (N49h9)

119 Regarding that poll showing Bush being blamed for the economy still -- there's a sliver of truth to it.  If President Bush had bothered to open his mouth, and not gone out of his way to zip Dick Cheney's mouth shut, while he was President, we quite probably wouldn't have the economic knuckleheads we have now running the country.  President Bush basically "Swift Boated" himself through the fetal position he assumed whenever he was attacked, and "Swift Boated" the whole Republican Party along with him.  We're seeing the legacy of Bush's passivity in the disastrous policies his successor is following.

Posted by: joeofpa at April 08, 2010 06:09 PM (2yam7)

120 Come on now. Johnny is nice – how many of you all have met her? She’s a nice person.

Posted by: Tom Coburn at April 08, 2010 06:11 PM (554T5)

Posted by: AmishDude at April 08, 2010 06:13 PM (Vo2Ef)

122 damn it.....    Augusta has boobies, the hotels and houses that are for rent all around there are full of boobies.....   goto tigerwoods.com and ask him if there are boobies in Augusta.

Posted by: Racefan at April 08, 2010 06:14 PM (i3I5W)

123 Obama talks too much.  The president should say little, and mostly in prepared statements.  Too many people, particularly foreigners, are sifting his every utterance for clues.  These constant off-the-cuff statements by the President are just confusing to everyone.

Posted by: toby928 at April 08, 2010 10:14 PM (PD1tk)

Hey, I tried to tell them I was eating a waffle, but the public, they just can't get enough of the big O...

Posted by: Barack Obama at April 08, 2010 06:19 PM (bgcml)

124 116 Any "sport" where they shush the crowd is for....how you say in English?....pussies....yes

Posted by: steevy at April 08, 2010 10:06 PM (uQJYO)

those old fuckers would put you in the swamp and let bugs and worms eat you. those are mean south georgia boys....   to tell the truth they dont really like Tiger and Vjay playing there.  they let them play they there because they have to and money.

Posted by: Racefan at April 08, 2010 06:21 PM (i3I5W)

125

My only comment is that I absolutely hate the current comment system. It won't tell you your link isn't going to work until after it eats the damned thing. I can actually match up the decline of my commenting on AoSHQ to the introduction of the current system.

 

I know that's not a loss, but I want to vent some of my frustration.

Posted by: digitalbrownshirt at April 08, 2010 06:26 PM (k2Rnj)

126 ... non-shoebombing dunderhead Al Modadi was on his way to Denver to meet with convicted Al Qaeda agent Ali Al-Marri.

Obama has given every ne'er-do-well on the planet the green light to screw with us. 

Al Modadi surely knew they guy he joked with about lighting his shoe was an Air Marshal.  This is just the beginning of the open disrespecting of the U.S. within its' own borders.  They are already mocking us.

Eventually they will get around to killing us instead of mocking.

Posted by: TXMarko at April 08, 2010 06:27 PM (E4Eqt)

127 Petraeus  i'm sure  is exposed to the rants of Iraqis -afghanis , i am disappointed that he would accept it as a reason to be harsher on Israel, i undertsand He is now perhaps also having to deal with a   a far left  administration, i really can't understand the reasoning in this. so if it's not Israels fault it is london's, or spain's, or indonesia's,russias,  hell even saudi arabia occasionally gets bombed or-or-or- (add whomever) who and what country haven't they threatened in some way for whatever they decide is a grievance? , they attack french citizens american citizens, westerners, asians   many of their own co-religionists. WHY would He buy this? why would He allow this excuse to be uttered from himself and give IT any validity

Posted by: willow at April 08, 2010 06:27 PM (GkYyh)

128 hey guys, cool stats to chew on regarding Presidential approval ratings with talks on Obama's low poll numbers:

FDR
Highest approval: 84% (After Pearl Harbor)
Lowest approval: 48% (1939-1940 New Deal Problems Emerging)

Truman
Highest approval: 87% (After FDR's Death)
Lowest approval: 22% (Leaving Office)

Eisenhower
Highest approval: 79% (End Of 1st Year)
Lowest approval: 48% (1958 Recession)

JFK
Highest approval: 83% (Cuban Missile Crisis)
Lowest approval: 56% (Fall Of 1963)

LBJ
Highest approval: 79% (After JFK's Death)
Lowest approval: 35% (Election Of 196

Nixon
Highest approval: 67% (Re-Election)
Lowest approval: 24% (Resignation/Watergate)

Ford
Highest approval: 71% (Becomes President)
Lowest approval: 37% (Nixon Pardon)

Carter
Highest approval: 75% (End of 1st Year)
Lowest approval: 28% (Election of 1980)

Reagan
Highest approval: 68% (Summer Of 1986/Leaving Office)
Lowest approval: 35% (82' Midterms)

Poppy Bush
Highest approval: 89% (Gulf War)
Lowest approval: 29% (Election Of 1992)

Clinton
Highest approval: 73% (Right before Lewinskygate Hit In Late 1997)
Lowest approval: 37% (May Of 1993 After Tax Hikes)

Dubya
Highest approval: 90% (After September 11)
Lowest approval: 25% (After financial crisis of 200

Obama
Highest approval: 68% (Inauguration)
Lowest approval: 45% (Healthcare Debate)

Posted by: YRM at April 08, 2010 06:28 PM (38UQ3)

129 Obama Highest approval: 68% (Inauguration)
Lowest approval: 45% (Healthcare Debate)

68% to 45% drop in one year for Obama!

Nice attempt at spinning numbers.

Posted by: TXMarko at April 08, 2010 06:37 PM (E4Eqt)

130

Posted by: TXMarko at April 08, 2010 10:37 PM (E4Eqt)

to be fair his numbers went up after the healthcare bill passed...to 47%

Posted by: YRM at April 08, 2010 06:38 PM (38UQ3)

131 With the media providing incessant accusations against Bush about the economy for years, it is no surprise to me that people believe it.

This is one reason among many why I say liberals in the media are the greatest threat to freedom this country has ever faced. They control access to the bulk of what the public gets to hear, and therefore they steer public opinion.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 08, 2010 06:45 PM (eVJ7T)

132 Uh...attorneys general

Gabe, you are better than this, regardless of the trend to injure proper grammar.  For those would-be revisionists, when moving from one to many, it is the attorneys who are plural, not the general(s).  No points will be taken this time.

Posted by: Style Guide at April 08, 2010 06:52 PM (0g1uu)

133  David Shuster "not moral, ethical, or professional," according to the MSNBC president.

So I get the job then...right?

Posted by: David Shuster at April 08, 2010 09:49 PM (bgcml)

We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. --C. S. Lewis

Posted by: Rodent Freikorps at April 08, 2010 07:00 PM (dQdrY)

134

Watched CBS News this evening. LOL unintentionally stupidly funny. Start with the Obama tongue bath about the treaty with the Russians "that the Senate most likely will approve." What a great thing now that the Cold War is over. One big happy family.

Next story. Some change of govt/coup in one of the Whackystans. The Newbies want to close down the US airbase that is supporting us in  Afghanistan, aka "the most important front on the war on manmade disasters." So same day we make nicey-nice with the Ruskies in Prague, they're screwing us somewhere else.

This Obama is a master negotiator.

Posted by: Mr. Barky at April 08, 2010 07:09 PM (H5asl)

135
As Gateway pundit shows, Obama was a raving anti-war nut in college to. The following is a link to a paper he wrote while in college.

http://tinyurl.com/yfotkux

Posted by: Diogenes at April 08, 2010 07:24 PM (eVJ7T)

136 This nation has a giant "Kick Me" sign on its' backside right now.

I wonder what will happen next?

Posted by: TXMarko at April 08, 2010 07:28 PM (E4Eqt)

137 For those who like to note that Americans have a higher rate of cancer should ponder the point that we have SIGNIFICANTLY higher life expectancy after cancer has been diagnosed, that is, you live longer in the US.

Dead folks don't get counted.

Posted by: Gandalf the pastey white at April 08, 2010 07:42 PM (1Ap7+)

138 YRM, of course he will have to deal with it.  But I think it may be a double edged sword:  one edge facing him; one edge he can use in his favor, especially if he comes out and says "we tried the statist approach and it failed." Or, "the statists larded it up."  There is credibility in admitting you were involved in something that has gone awry, especially when you have credibility in other realms.

But he really needs to modify his approach.  Otherwise, no primary win for my preferred putative candidate ;-(

Posted by: ParisParamus at April 08, 2010 07:46 PM (XVJ0J)

139 SIM @ 86 - Great story....thanks!

Posted by: Cheri at April 08, 2010 07:51 PM (llSaz)

140 Why are the GOP ladies always so voluptuous and Dem ladies are so old and busted looking?  Why is that?
Posted by: SlaveDog at April 08, 2010 09:57 PM (W+E+o)

Check out the Moronettes photos on AOSHQ Yahoo group!  You'll see some hotness....

(not me though....I'm a busted old hag...but the others - hotness!)

Posted by: Cheri at April 08, 2010 07:53 PM (llSaz)

141 (not me though....I'm a busted old hag...but the others - hotness!)

Busted old hag?  WHATEVAH!

Posted by: TXMarko at April 08, 2010 08:02 PM (T1FnD)

142 TXMarko @ 144

Posted by: Cheri at April 08, 2010 08:05 PM (llSaz)

143 Liked the intro. Hated the opinion stated as fact that we have the best medical care in the world. Conclusionary. Foundation. Nyet, Komrade.

Posted by: Lunatic Fringe at April 08, 2010 09:32 PM (uFdnM)

144 Why does it hurt when I pee?

Posted by: Bruce Springsteen at April 08, 2010 10:02 PM (p28Ei)

145 I wonder if it would be effective for all tea-partiers to wear a white star? They are trying to part us on racial a economic line I wonder about throwing it back in their face?

Posted by: jamie at April 08, 2010 11:23 PM (CTJDC)

146 I want to thank you all of letting me witness the "troll hunt" of someguy. and learning about moby's sockpuppets and eyores. I shall take this learning forth and protect blogs. If they aren't better than me recognizing it. I lurk but I care

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Posted by: anyhu at April 09, 2010 12:29 AM (paWLR)

148 To brighten your day , scroll down for Tennis Girl.

Posted by: Moneyrunner at April 09, 2010 04:14 AM (1EB5C)

149 I blame Woodrow Wilson for the bad economy, myself. Wasn't the Fed established on his watch?

Posted by: Jeffrey Quick at April 09, 2010 04:20 AM (g9neE)

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