February 01, 2010

Tomorrow: Mark Kirk vs. Paul Hughes
— Ace

In the GOP primary to fill the "Barack Obama seat."

Recent polls have Kirk easily swamping newcomer Hughes. Based on this... Kirk is... well, very meh, but this is Illinois.

One of the most liberal states in the union.

At least he has recanted his cap and trade vote.

More: Geraghty agrees with McCormack -- meh, but would be great to steal "Barack Obama's seat."

On the Other Hand... GOP gubernatorial hopeful Adam Andrzejewski seems like a stalwart, and might ride a Tea Party surge to the nomination.


Posted by: Ace at 12:41 PM | Comments (148)
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1 First baby.

Posted by: Timmy has a baby penis at February 01, 2010 12:45 PM (0FiCa)

2
Kirk is probably lying about Cap & Trade just to get the base to support him.

Posted by: This is Timmy in the well at February 01, 2010 12:47 PM (z37MR)

3

If Mark Kirk wins thats gonna leave a big ugly mark on Captain Fantastic, Lord Of The Universe.

Posted by: Blazer at February 01, 2010 12:47 PM (t72+4)

4 Kirk sucks... I'm voting for Hughes. But Kirk will kick Dem ass in the general... which works for me.

Posted by: Vet Missing Parts at February 01, 2010 12:50 PM (MCHyX)

5

Rule 1: In primary, Real Republican over RINO.

Rule 2: In general, ANY Republican over Commiecrat.

NY-23 was unique and primary-less.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 01, 2010 12:51 PM (ujg0T)

6 Why the hell are they holding the primary in February for November's elections?


Posted by: DrewM. at February 01, 2010 12:51 PM (UAnTc)

7 Maybe John McCain can pass him the Maverick Butt Plug on his way back to AZ.

Posted by: Flying Monkey at February 01, 2010 12:52 PM (Oxen1)

8 RINO

Posted by: john at February 01, 2010 12:53 PM (oNpFl)

9
Ok, it took a chick who played on Star Trek Voyager to catapult Obama into his Senate seat and then the presidency and now a GOPer with the last name Kirk most likely will get the seat he once occupied.


Am I the only one seeing this ?



Posted by: Blazer at February 01, 2010 12:53 PM (t72+4)

10 Not every GOP is better than every Dem.  Linc Chafee probably did us more harm than good.

Not sure which side Kirk will fall.  Ugh.

Posted by: someone at February 01, 2010 12:57 PM (njJQD)

11 I've responded many times the the purist/pragmatist argument which has become the regular call to circular assault formations here; With the concept of "As conservative as we can reasonably get" I usually lean far more conservative for a candidate than the pragmatists in the movement/party say we should run. We could do better than slushy snow in main, and New York 23, well we all know hoe we felt about someone with SEIU endorsements, but right now, anybody with an (R) after their name in Illinois who doesn't openly get support from ACORN and SEIU is more than we should expect and we should be happy with it. 

Posted by: Captain Awesome at February 01, 2010 12:58 PM (0q2P7)

12 $(*&*($*( SOCK OFF!

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at February 01, 2010 12:58 PM (0q2P7)

13 Actually, Illinois as a whole is not all liberal.  The problem is that the city of Chicago thinks IT IS the state of Illinois and has a mafia-like stranglehold on the entire state.  There are plenty of pockets of Republicans and traditional hard-working old-fashioned Democrats ( you know - the kind that don't hate America).  But you can't break through here.  And when you do you end up doing something way goofy and going to prison,   Ask ex-governor George Ryan, (who by the way used to be my family pharmacist).  Or you end up marrying Jerri Ryan and doing something else equally way goofy.  Or you end up dead down by the river.

Ditka  - you coulda saved the nation, bud.

Posted by: mama winger at February 01, 2010 01:00 PM (Ue9UN)

14

I live in Kirks district and in the primary he will NOT get my vote based on the cap and trade fiasco. If he gets the nomination I might hold my nose and vote for him because there is only one thing I hate worse than a RINO, and thats a democrat. It would look good at least on paper to have an R-IL in the senate.

 

FYI, its Patrick Hughes not Paul Hughes

Posted by: exceller at February 01, 2010 01:01 PM (jx2Td)

15

10 Ok, it took a chick who played on Star Trek Voyager to catapult Obama into his Senate seat and then the presidency

Blazer, Are you saying that Michelle is a Klingon, I thought she was Chewbacca's sister...You Sci-Fi geeks are startin to piss me off...IS SHE KLINGY OR CHEWY??

 

Posted by: dananjcon at February 01, 2010 01:01 PM (pr+up)

16 yub yub

Posted by: ace's conscience at February 01, 2010 01:03 PM (Bsm1s)

17 Oh and another thing, I don't know why it keeps getting reported that Andrejewski is the Tea Party candidate. There is not official Tea Party candidate. I'm a Tea Partier and I'm voting for Dan Proft.

Posted by: exceller at February 01, 2010 01:03 PM (jx2Td)

18


10 Ok, it took a chick who played on Star Trek Voyager to catapult Obama into his Senate seat and then the presidency

Blazer, Are you saying that Michelle is a Klingon, I thought she was Chewbacca's sister...You Sci-Fi geeks are startin to piss me off...IS SHE KLINGY OR CHEWY??

 

Posted by: dananjcon at February 01, 2010 05:01 PM (pr+up)






I was talking about Jerry Ryan, ex-Senator George Ryan's ex-wife.

Posted by: Blazer at February 01, 2010 01:04 PM (t72+4)

19

Maybe John McCain can pass him the Maverick Butt Plug on his way back to AZ.

Any luck on putting this RINO, his bimbo wife and slut daughter out to pasture?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 01, 2010 01:04 PM (ujg0T)

20 Seven of Nine, baby.

Posted by: mesablue at February 01, 2010 01:04 PM (jc7YC)

21
Seven of Nine, baby.

Posted by: mesablue at February 01, 2010 05:04 PM (jc7YC)






Awwwwwww yeaaaaaaaaa, Jerry Ryan was teh hawt.

Posted by: Blazer at February 01, 2010 01:05 PM (t72+4)

22 It was Jack Ryan that was married to the Star Trek babe.

George went to jail.

Posted by: mesablue at February 01, 2010 01:05 PM (jc7YC)

23 So Kirk is a gun controller. Well, a hearty and heart felt fuck you to you, sir.

Posted by: maddogg at February 01, 2010 01:06 PM (OlN4e)

24 Jerri Ryan was not George Ryan's wife - ex- Governor George Ryan is an old guy.  Jerri was married to Jack Ryan, who was running for Senator.

None of them are related to Paul Ryan, R of Wisconsin. 

I know I know - too many Ryans here.

Posted by: mama winger at February 01, 2010 01:06 PM (Ue9UN)

25

Slightly O/T but funny, Arlen Spector gets on stage interrupting Joe Seastak at a Democrat conference.  They were supposed to do separate Q & A's but Spector can't help himself.  (It is funny when the moderator makes him take a seat with Spector pointing at his watch like "Joe's gone over time, it's my turn now."  Too funny!  I think Spector is going to lose the primary and hopefully get beaten like a bongo drum by Toomey.  Here's the link to the vid:

http://tinyurl.com/yc4fo8h

Posted by: runningrn at February 01, 2010 01:07 PM (CfmlF)

26

"Recent polls have Kirk easily swamping newcomer Hughes."

OK, Kirk will win, but I'll wager the final tally is a lot closer than "the polls".  Hughes came late to the party, but he's establishing name recognition, should he tackle this again.

We're in war.  This is one battle, we might lose this battle.  The war continues.

Posted by: Barry Hussein at February 01, 2010 01:07 PM (ucq49)

27 BTW - there is a Jim Ryan running for Governor now in Illinois.

Posted by: mama winger at February 01, 2010 01:08 PM (Ue9UN)

28 Stickin sock.  Sheesh!

Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS at February 01, 2010 01:09 PM (ucq49)

29 I'll throw down for Hughes tomorrow...and probably spend the next several months ignoring what a complete knucklehead Kirk is so that I can keep my nose pinched shut long enough to vote for him in the general election.  Supposedly, Hughes just "doesn't have the charisma" to get it done in the general.  Personally, I've had all the "charisma" I can stand for quite a while.

Posted by: Gen. Sir Harry Flashman, VC at February 01, 2010 01:12 PM (eDVK4)

30 Jack Ryan 'had' to drop out of the Senate race vs Obambi because the Tribune had his divorce records unsealed.  In it, it was revealed that one of the reasons for the divorce was that Jack asked Jeri to 'have some extra help in some marital matters' (IYKWIM). 

Taking a look at a Yahoo image search of seven of nine, I can see having two of those would be (erm) stimulating to say the least.

Posted by: CUS at February 01, 2010 01:12 PM (wOGfT)

31 Psst. Kinda o/t to all but former lfgers - just saw that buzzswmonky (sic) who stood up so courageously for me when I was banned - not - and stood up so courageously for you when you got banned a couple times - not - has himself now been banned.

'First they came for the communists'

Posted by: Amish Jack at February 01, 2010 05:10 PM (IhHdM)







Whatever for?

Posted by: Blazer at February 01, 2010 01:13 PM (t72+4)

32
 Are you saying that Michelle is a Klingon

No, m'chelle is a Romulan spy, that looks like a Klingon.  Wheels within wheels, you see.

Posted by: Art Bell Tinfoil Hatters at February 01, 2010 01:13 PM (fx8sm)

33 Jerri was married to Jack Ryan, who was running for Senator.

Against Obama who somehow got Ryan's divorce records unsealed, against the pleadings of both Ryans...which led to Ryan dropping out of the race.  (Which, I think, left no one else on the ballot, right?)

OT:

From Pravda no less.  Unbelievable...

It must be said, that like the breaking of a great dam, the American decent into Marxism is happening with breath taking speed, against the back drop of a passive, hapless sheeple, excuse me dear reader, I meant people.

snip~

The final collapse has come with the election of Barack Obama. His speed in the past three months has been truly impressive. His spending and money printing has been a record setting, not just in America's short history but in the world. If this keeps up for more then another year, and there is no sign that it will not, America at best will resemble the Wiemar Republic and at worst Zimbabwe.


http://tinyurl.com/czonr7

Posted by: Tami at February 01, 2010 01:14 PM (VuLos)

34 IS SHE KLINGY OR CHEWY??

Posted by: dananjcon at February 01, 2010 05:01 PM (pr+up)

She's both.  Like a dingleberry.

Posted by: Barney Frank at February 01, 2010 01:14 PM (GU29T)

35 I still have family and friends in IL, and they've resigned themselves to Kirk.

OTOH, the support for Andrzejewski seems, according to my IL sources stronger than the polls may show, especially among likely voters and especially among voters motivated by the Tea Parties.

Quincy, IL is not big (40,000+ with perhaps another 20,000 in the rest of Adams county) but he went over very big there, according to my sources, and energized a great many.

I wouldn't be surprised. if he pulled out a narrow win.  If that's the case, he has a real shot in November.

Posted by: JorgXMcKie at February 01, 2010 01:15 PM (GqCbz)

36 Well, if its Kirk, I'll be happy to take the 50% with us from an Illinois senator.  I would rather have the 95% Hughes, but won't kick a gift horse in the balls.

As for Angie-f-ski, a breath of  fresh air, more people like him please.  See IllinoisIsBroke.com, that state is screwed.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 01, 2010 01:15 PM (DIYmd)

37 Jerri Ryan was not George Ryan's wife - ex- Governor George Ryan is an old guy.  Jerri was married to Jack Ryan, who was running for Senator.

None of them are related to Paul Ryan, R of Wisconsin. 

I know I know - too many Ryans here.

Is there any relation to Jack Ryan, President after Captain Sato blew up the Capital with a 747? Probably not, he's from Maryland, and make believe to boot!

Posted by: Jay in Ames at February 01, 2010 01:15 PM (UEEex)

38 Is this where the party is?

Posted by: Ryan Seacrest at February 01, 2010 01:16 PM (kZVsz)

39 Agreed that Hughes is better than Kirk.  Question is who to vote for governor?  I'm Leaning toward McKenna.   As an aside, on the Dem's side for governor, the Quinn and Hynes show has been enjoyable. 

Posted by: Cardinal Biggles at February 01, 2010 01:16 PM (z3tot)

40 Tatum, are you in here?

Posted by: Ryan O'Neal at February 01, 2010 01:16 PM (UEEex)

41 [Amish Jack - that whole scenario made me unbelievably sad. 
I am glad to see some familiar faces here, where walking on eggshells is not a requirement.  And friends don't sell out other friends.]


let the dead bury their dead  and all that ..... moving on ......


Posted by: mama winger at February 01, 2010 01:17 PM (Ue9UN)

42

Is this where the party is?

Posted by: Ryan Seacrest at February 01, 2010 05:16 PM (kZVsz)





Watch it piker.

Posted by: Nolan Ryan at February 01, 2010 01:17 PM (t72+4)

43 The problem is that the city of Chicago thinks IT IS the state of Illinois and has a mafia-like stranglehold on the entire state.

They have the numbers to do so, although I'm not sure how even it would be if the dead, fictional, and former Chicago residents didn't vote (I'd love to know if I'm on the rolls at the address on my birth certificate, even though I moved out when I was two).

We're back to splitting IL into two states, each with appropriate number of House seats and two senators, so downstate has some representation at a national level.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 01, 2010 01:17 PM (OkT2m)

44

Posted by: Tami at February 01, 2010 05:14 PM (VuLos)

 

Holy crap!  From Pravda!  Yikes!

Posted by: runningrn at February 01, 2010 01:17 PM (CfmlF)

45

All the washed up Soap Stars at ?

Posted by: Ryan's Hope at February 01, 2010 01:18 PM (t72+4)

46 (Which, I think, left no one else on the ballot, right?)

Alan Keyes stepped up after Mike Ditka turned it down.  The full-size Ditka, not the twelve-inch Ditka...

Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 01, 2010 01:18 PM (OkT2m)

47 I live in Illinois and I will never vote for Kirk for the Senate. You want another John McCain, except one with no integrity and that is beholden to Richard Daley? I'll vote for the D before I vote for Kirk.

Posted by: Sit on a potato pan, Otis at February 01, 2010 01:19 PM (QBQcg)

48
I can't tell for sure. It was in a thread with a ton of deleted comments and a CJ threat of more bannings. In other words, just another day at
Animal Farm

Posted by: Amish Jack at February 01, 2010 05:18 PM (IhHdM)



FIFY

Posted by: Blazer at February 01, 2010 01:20 PM (t72+4)

49 Alan Keyes stepped up after Mike Ditka turned it down.  The full-size Ditka, not the twelve-inch Ditka...

Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 01, 2010 05:18 PM (OkT2m)

Oh right...I forgot about Keyes.  Damn you, Mike...damn you.

Posted by: Tami at February 01, 2010 01:20 PM (VuLos)

50 I'll vote for the D before I vote for Kirk.

That Dem supermajority with all committee chair positions in the hands of leftists really works for you, huh?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 01, 2010 01:20 PM (OkT2m)

51 I'm voting for Hughes, and will vote for Kirk in the general while I hold my nose. And I'm voting for the polock kid Andy A for Guv. Plus I vote straight republican, if only to nullify Jesse Jackson's straight dem vote.

Posted by: LtE113 (Mike in Chicago) at February 01, 2010 01:21 PM (heNM3)

52 let the dead bury their dead  and all that ..... moving on ......

Posted by: mama winger at February 01, 2010 05:17 PM (Ue9UN)

Fantastic timing, though, wasn't it?  I mean, if someone's going to embrace Warmerism and Obama-worship and abandon anti-Islamicism, doing so right before Climategate, the failure of Obamacare, the release of a budget with a $1.6 trillion deficit, and the Pantybomber (not to mention Obama trying to send KSM to New York City) seems like karmic justice.  I wouldn't be surprised if the resultant cognitive dissonance caused a nervous breakdown, or a stroke.

Posted by: Barney Frank at February 01, 2010 01:22 PM (GU29T)

53 Why the hell are they holding the primary in February for November's elections?

Because Illinois election judges like to be out at 5:00 in the morning in the snow.

Ace, I really hope your wrong about tomorrow's outcome.  A Kirk win means that that Dems hold the seat, especially if this guy Hoffman (who is not so obviously mobbed up as Gianoullias) wins.  I get what you and DrewM are always on about taking what you can get, but the truth is conservative voters in Illinois, and I talk to quite a few, will not support Kirk. 

He voted for Cap and Trade when he knew he aould be running for a Senate seat this year, and when he thought he'd be running in an empty primary, so his recant now cannot be trusted.  He voted against the surge, so he is a disaster on national defense.  He's a gun grabber and pro-abortion (the later being what dooms him-we simply will not let the babykillers get ahead in the national party if we can stop them).  He is literally opposed to conservatives on every issue.  It will not be hard at all for any Dem to run to his right on something and give us the rationale to vote for them.

That being said, an argument could be made for supporting him in the fall if one more Senator would give us control of the Senate, but even then, based on my conversations (and I really have been suggesting that to folks), that's a steep uphill climb.

BTW, this context suggests to me I might apologize for being a pain in the ass to you all the time.  We really do have a fairly specific problem here in Illinois of the party establishment being at permanent cross purposes with the voters with all the success that entails (you can count statewide elected Republicans on no hands).  I'm represented on the Cook County board by Tony Peraica, who's pretty much the only honest man in the party ranks and our constant fights with the corruption across both parties pretty strongly colors my view of the purity arguments.  So, sorry.

Posted by: Methos at February 01, 2010 01:23 PM (Xsi7M)

54 Re;  Jack Ryan

iirc, Jack's pecadillo was that he wanted to have sex with Jeri publicly ... albeit in a private club.  and who could blame him? I mean, let's face facts:  If  ** I ** were married to Jeri Ryan I'd want to be seen having teh sex with her.

Conversely, were I married to M'chelle, I'd do everything possible to prevent the  notion of my having sexual intercourse with her occuring to anybody.  Hell,  I'd probably play a lot of basketball with the guys, golf as often as possible, wind up having to spend a lot of time with the guys "polishing speeches", pick fights with Republicans ... damn near anything

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Posted by: BumperStickerist at February 01, 2010 01:23 PM (ruzrP)

55

I wouldn't trust Kirk. He voted in favor of cap and tax when he thought it would ingratiate him to the Democrats in IL...and then changed his mind...after he voted for it...when he experienced a huge backlash.

He's just another Illinois dickhead with no conviction..just political interests.

...Fuck him

Posted by: beedubya at February 01, 2010 01:25 PM (AnTyA)

56 And if Andy loses, I got his phone number 'cause I need my chimney tuckpointed, and we have some vinyl siding work for him too.

Posted by: LtE113 (Mike in Chicago) at February 01, 2010 01:25 PM (heNM3)

57 I live just over the state line now in the People's Republic of Wisconsin.  At least I have the right Ryan - Paul.  We need to clone him times eleventy.

Posted by: mama winger at February 01, 2010 01:25 PM (Ue9UN)

58 Plus I vote straight republican, if only to nullify Jesse Jackson's straight dem vote.

Posted by: LtE113 (Mike in Chicago) at February 01, 2010 05:21 PM (heNM3)

Speaking of Jesse Jackson, the Republican challenging his son JJ Jr. is Isaac Hayes.  Young, Black and solidly Conservative on the issues (judging by his positions posted on his website).

Posted by: stuiec at February 01, 2010 01:27 PM (GU29T)

59

Posted by: Barney Frank at February 01, 2010 05:22 PM (GU29T)

Suffering brain farts, Barney?  Some how, doesn't sound like you.

Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS at February 01, 2010 01:27 PM (ucq49)

60 Adam Ant will be a disaster as general candidate. Yesterday he was caught out not knowing how many Republicans were in the General Assembly, or even how many seats there are in both chambers. He also looks like Howdy Doody. Dan Proft is the real conservative deal. The state either gets a serious statehouse wrecker like Proft, or I want a Democrat in charge who we can blame. A squishy Republican would be worst of all worlds.

Posted by: Fresh Air at February 01, 2010 01:27 PM (tE2Go)

61 "Conversely, were I married to M'chelle, I'd do everything possible to prevent the notion of my having sexual intercourse with her occuring to anybody. Hell, I'd probably play a lot of basketball with the guys, golf as often as possible, wind up having to spend a lot of time with the guys "polishing speeches", pick fights with Republicans ... damn near anything" Yeah. Like getting blowjobs from Larry Sinclair.

Posted by: LtE113 (Mike in Chicago) at February 01, 2010 01:27 PM (heNM3)

62 Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 01, 2010 05:20 PM (OkT2m) See comment 56. Kirk cannot be trusted.

Posted by: Sit on a potato pan, Otis at February 01, 2010 01:28 PM (QBQcg)

63

Conversely, were I married to M'chelle, I'd do everything possible to prevent the  notion of my having sexual intercourse with her,

Thanks, asshole...I just prepped my $10.99/lb Angus ribeyes for the grill...now my appetite's gone..

Posted by: beedubya at February 01, 2010 01:29 PM (AnTyA)

64 Nobody who votes for crap and tax can be a real Republican.

Posted by: Vic at February 01, 2010 01:30 PM (QrA9E)

65

Strange things can happen in Illinois primaries because voters there do not register by party affiliation.  Both party regulars and pollsters often have problems figuring out who is going to show up and take a Republican ballot.  

 I'd watch for two trends.  1) A huge increase in statewide Republican turnout to levels not seen since the 1990s because of dissatidfaction with Chicago Democrat's domination of the state.  High turnout may not favor candidates whose political activity dates from before 2002 - Kirk, Ryan, Dillard, McKenna and Topinka.

2) Unexpected Republican turnout among the Poles in the greater Chicago area.  Andrejewski has the potential to brings new voters into the primary. The real wild card is how they are going to vote in the rest of the races on the ballot.  

Posted by: NC Mountain Girl at February 01, 2010 01:30 PM (AKcMv)

66


Thanks, asshole...I just prepped my $10.99/lb Angus ribeyes for the grill...now my appetite's gone..

Posted by: beedubya at February 01, 2010 05:29 PM (AnTyA)





Hey, Barry eats Wagu beef after he eats........oh never mind, I can see I'm not helping any here.

Posted by: Blazer at February 01, 2010 01:30 PM (t72+4)

67 "Conversely, were I married to M'chelle, I'd do everything possible to prevent the notion of my having sexual intercourse with her," What? Don't think James Brown in a dress is some fine shit?

Posted by: LtE113 (Mike in Chicago) at February 01, 2010 01:31 PM (heNM3)

68 Anyone know anything about Rand Paul?  Palin endorsed him today.

Posted by: Tami at February 01, 2010 01:31 PM (VuLos)

69 Kirks' "aye" on cap and trade should have sent up a signal to the tea partiers to get someone to oppose this asshole

Posted by: beedubya at February 01, 2010 01:31 PM (AnTyA)

70 I'm assuming he'll lose; but will establish a bit of name recognition. I'm hoping Hughes runs for Durbin's seat. (but it would be nice to see Lt. Dan or Ditka run) I cannot stand Kirk; but this is Illinois-so he'll be better than a Dem if forced to vote for him in Nov. It would be great if "insert long, Polish name" pulls off an upset as well

Posted by: d at February 01, 2010 01:32 PM (uTknY)

71 It doesn't matter who wins.  The next day or week Press Secretary Gibbs will go on national television and explain how it's a stunning validation of Obama's policies.  

Posted by: Dana White at February 01, 2010 01:32 PM (zgeXv)

72 Reading the Ill residents posts sounds like Kirk is the second coming of Dede.  hmmm...maybe Hughes should pull a Hoffman, because it sounds like otherwise its a leftist democrat vs a leftist repub in the general.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at February 01, 2010 01:32 PM (DIYmd)

73 Unexpected Republican turnout among the Poles in the greater Chicago area.  Andrejewski has the potential to brings new voters into the primary. The real wild card is how they are going to vote in the rest of the races on the ballot.  

Posted by: NC Mountain Girl at February 01, 2010 05:30 PM (AKcMv)

I think it's the largest Polish population outside Warsaw.  At least it was when I lived there from '81-'94.

Posted by: Tami at February 01, 2010 01:33 PM (VuLos)

74 In tangentially related news, Rod Blagojovic will be a contestant on the next season of Celebrity Apprentice.

Posted by: FireHorse at February 01, 2010 01:34 PM (cQyWA)

75 That Dem supermajority with all committee chair positions in the hands of leftists really works for you, huh?

What Dem supermajority?  The one that ends as soon as what's-his-name from MA is seated?  That situation has changed-we are no longer desperate to break up their 60 seats and this is not a one-off special election.  In November, we're going to pick up the House comfortably and a bunch of Senate seats.  If we're set to pick up four or five there's no argument for voting for Kirk as he'll be the first guy to vote with the Dems on anything because 'he has to represent the voters of Chicago.'  If we're getting 12 (and who knows, if those polls putting WI and WA in play are right) or more, there is again no point in supporting the clod.  No one around here even wants to hear that-Kirk (and the GOP establishment) is just that toxic.  I noted one other Proft vote above-he's running on slashing taxes and spending like Indiana, but mainly against the state Republican party.  That's where we are in Illinois.

Posted by: Methos at February 01, 2010 01:37 PM (Xsi7M)

76 It is PATRICK Hughes - not Paul Hughes!

Posted by: bbh at February 01, 2010 01:37 PM (U8m0N)

77 @75 Wish our primary wasn't so early, he may have been "the Hoffman who won"

Posted by: d at February 01, 2010 01:37 PM (uTknY)

78 Second to 63, Dan Proft is a true conservative who is superb on the issues, very articulate and nimble on his feet, and knows IL politics inside and out.  I have been handing out his literature door to door in my precinct.  Andzejewski, while solid, is nowhere near as good as Proft.  BTW, you IL voters, avoid Ryan and McKenna like the plague.  Ryan is virulently anti-gun and McKenna is part of the reason the IL GOP is in such dire straights.  If you must, vote Dillard if you are choosing from the status quo.

Posted by: name at February 01, 2010 01:37 PM (cqHQH)

79

Oh good grief, speaking of celebrities, there's going to be a remake of "We are the World" for Haiti relief.  I feel like these celebutard musicians should stop being so cheap and lazy and reach into their own deep pockets to donate money directly to the cause.  How much money is it going to cost to fly all these idiots to the same recording studio and what is their carbon footprint going to be?  And I'm calling them out for being lazy because they can't be bothered  to come up a new song, just re-singing the same old, tired tune.  From Hotair:

LOS ANGELES – Twenty-five years after star-studded anthem "We Are the World" raised millions of dollars to aid famine relief in Africa, celebrities of a different generation were set to gather Monday night to re-record the charity tune to benefit Haiti.

Among those scheduled to perform on the revamped track the night after the Grammy Awards were Akon, Jason Mraz, Bono, Wyclef Jean, Carlos Santana, Enrique Iglesias, Usher, Toni Braxton and Lady Gaga. The session will be held at the same recording studio where the original was cut — the historic A&M complex in Hollywood.

Quincy Jones, who produced the 1985 anthem, announced last week that he planned to redo the song to benefit recovery from the deadly Jan. 12 earthquake in Haiti.

Posted by: runningrn at February 01, 2010 01:38 PM (CfmlF)

80 OT  Another interesting unemployment gif

Posted by: toby928: crazed with a lust for power at February 01, 2010 01:39 PM (PD1tk)

81

Oh good grief, speaking of celebrities, there's going to be a remake of "We are the World" for Haiti relief.  I feel like these celebutard musicians should stop being so cheap and lazy and reach into their own deep pockets to donate money directly to the cause.  How much money is it going to cost to fly all these idiots to the same recording studio and what is their carbon footprint going to be?  And I'm calling them out for being lazy because they can't be bothered  to come up a new song, just re-singing the same old, tired tune.  From Hotair:

LOS ANGELES – Twenty-five years after star-studded anthem "We Are the World" raised millions of dollars to aid famine relief in Africa, celebrities of a different generation were set to gather Monday night to re-record the charity tune to benefit Haiti.

Among those scheduled to perform on the revamped track the night after the Grammy Awards were Akon, Jason Mraz, Bono, Wyclef Jean, Carlos Santana, Enrique Iglesias, Usher, Toni Braxton and Lady Gaga. The session will be held at the same recording studio where the original was cut — the historic A&M complex in Hollywood.

Quincy Jones, who produced the 1985 anthem, announced last week that he planned to redo the song to benefit recovery from the deadly Jan. 12 earthquake in Haiti.

Posted by: runningrn at February 01, 2010 05:38 PM (CfmlF)








How'd that whole thing work out for Africa over the last 25 years by the way ?

Posted by: Blazer at February 01, 2010 01:40 PM (t72+4)

82 "I think it's the largest Polish population outside Warsaw. At least it was when I lived there from '81-'94." All the young polish girls end up working at places like The Admiral Theatre, Diamond Jacks and Cowboys. "Hello, I am Mika...would you like dancelap?"

Posted by: LtE113 (Mike in Chicago) at February 01, 2010 01:43 PM (heNM3)

83 71 Anyone know anything about Rand Paul?  Palin endorsed him today.

Posted by: Tami at February 01, 2010 05:31 PM (VuLos)

I know he's a lot more sane than his dad.

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b+/tard at February 01, 2010 01:44 PM (IoUF1)

84

I heard Rush endorsed Andrejewski today.  I haven't followed this closely, but, I did listen to Walesa's speech. 

Posted by: sybilll at February 01, 2010 01:46 PM (YSJ+G)

85 Speaking of Poles, the Republican Party should recruit LechWalesa.


Posted by: mama winger at February 01, 2010 01:46 PM (Ue9UN)

86 Anyone know how Matt Burden is doing?

Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at February 01, 2010 01:49 PM (ucq49)

87 Why the hell are they holding the primary in February for November's elections?

The Texas primary is on the 2nd of March.  I don't see a problem with starting the process now.  In Texas the 3rd parties have to hold precinct conventions, then county conventions, then district conventions, and then the state convention before the general election date.

Posted by: John Galt at February 01, 2010 01:49 PM (F/4zf)

88

Re#87

Just read that at Gateway Pundit.  Rush said he is 'the Scott Brown of Illinois.'

Posted by: Cardinal Biggles at February 01, 2010 01:51 PM (z3tot)

89 Yeah, Adam whose-last-name-is-polish would rock, too.  I voted for Proft before this last round of polling or I might have done differently.  It would have been nice if the tea party groups that were going to endorse had done so before early voting started.

Posted by: Methos at February 01, 2010 01:51 PM (Xsi7M)

90

Did someone mention the First Lady???..

...sorry...but this really cracks me up no matter how many times I see it

Posted by: beedubya at February 01, 2010 01:53 PM (AnTyA)

91 The thing that pisses me off about this phony, Kirk, the most is that he abuses his position as a Representative to get special "deployments" that last a week. He picks and chooses when he goes over. He flies over as a Rep and once he lands he gets to decide, now I'm a reservist. A week later, he says, now I'm a Rep and comes back home. I know of no one else who got a deployment that lasted a week and came back with all of their limbs. My wife's father is a reservist and outranks this tool. He had a stroke a month before deploying. Thankfully, it wasn't a bad one, and he had a chance to opt out. He went with his unit, and will be gone for another 10 months. Kirk spits in the face of him, me, and everyone else who has served by claiming he has been "deployed". FUCK HIM. He brings dishonor to the uniform.

Posted by: Sit on a potato pan, Otis at February 01, 2010 01:53 PM (QBQcg)

92 I don't think he was on anyone's radar, until Walesa came to speak.  May have missed a golden opportunity.  Damn. 

Posted by: sybilll at February 01, 2010 01:53 PM (YSJ+G)

93 actually, i am of the opinion that iowa is far more liberal then illinois. when you get outside of chicago people are increasingly less "progressive," whereas in iowa you have some social outreach with a big gov grant about every other block, and even the farmers vote democratic half the time.

the problem with kirk is that he is a weenie. yes, a weenie. it's a highly techincal term which basically means that a guy support things like, oh, cap n trade, and pro abortion legislation. yeah, he's a weenie. unfortunately, the GOP machine supports him because he is the easy candidate, as opposed to being what is not only best for the party but best for the country.

any politician, regardless of party, that has voted in any way for the ridiculous spending under this administration does not deserve to be voted back into office. any politician that supported crap-pot legislation such as crap n trade is not worthy of serving in congress. kirk is a jerk, and is not good for this country. period. i'd rather eat glass then vote for that schmuck mark mirk.

Posted by: mistress overdone at February 01, 2010 01:57 PM (2/oBD)

94

How many Polacks' does it take to push Adam Andrzejewski over the top??

..one...Lech Walesa\

Andrzejewski..does anyone have any clues as how to pronounce that?

.those "harder than Polish role call" jokes really aren't jokes, are they?

 

 

Posted by: beedubya at February 01, 2010 01:59 PM (AnTyA)

95 16 ...IS SHE KLINGY OR CHEWY??

Yes.

disjunction junction, what's my function...

Posted by: Snarkatron at February 01, 2010 01:59 PM (3K4hn)

96 beedubya at February 01, 2010 05:59 PM (AnTyA) Andrew Yeskey

Posted by: Sit on a potato pan, Otis at February 01, 2010 02:01 PM (QBQcg)

97

"Palin endorsed him today."

I'm not too impressed with Palin's endorsements lately.  She's endorsing Perry here in TX.

Srsly.  The incumbent.  Texas' own Silky Pony.  Underwhelmed with you, Sarah.  Under.  Whelmed.

Tangentally, my brain kicked into overdrive when Medina mentioned at the last debates that she would do away with gun registration in TX if elected Governor.

Posted by: reason at February 01, 2010 02:02 PM (kZVsz)

98 I just want any of the outsiders to the GOP to win.

My first choice was Proft since he is a regular on the morning conservative talk show Don and Roma, but Bill BRady gets a lot of respect, but it seems like Andy is picking up steam - Damn, I wish they had not split the outsider vote.

I REALLY hope people are paying attention and Hughes gets it.

I'm glad I got a good guy in Kittinger (Sp) in the 11th.

Posted by: Robin at February 01, 2010 02:02 PM (6uXZa)

99 ADAM ADAM ADAM! I am voting for Adam and Kirk.

Posted by: jeff at February 01, 2010 02:03 PM (i0/N7)

100

O/T, but, ready for a laugh?

jaketapper

  

PresidentÂ’s Budget Assumes $150 Billion in Savings from Health Care Reform > http://bit.ly/cpISPh

Posted by: sybilll at February 01, 2010 02:04 PM (YSJ+G)

101 Kirk is supremely meh. That's why I'm voting for Adam A or Dan P in the primary. If Kirk wins I may ignore my don't vote for a slimy RINO rule just to make the sting extra good against Obama when we add his seat to Kennedy's, Reid's, Dodd's, etc.

Posted by: ChicagoJedi at February 01, 2010 02:08 PM (WZFkG)

102 71 Anyone know anything about Rand Paul?  Palin endorsed him today.

Posted by: Tami at February 01, 2010 05:31 PM (VuLos)

Okay, I found this about Rand Paul.  Clearly he's discussed politics with his Dad plenty of times.  But a quick perusal of his issues page looks like what the Conservatives are always yammering about.

Of course, over at freeper-ville, he's evidently not pro-life-y enough for the reeeel, "real" pro lifers.  I guess letting the states decide, as the founders intended, is not good enough for them.

The reeely "real" Conservatives are leaving Sarah Palin's bandwagon in droves.  And by droves, I mean in upwards of the high hundreds.  I think her bandwagon can take the loss.

Never trust anyone who is afraid of women.

Posted by: K~Bob at February 01, 2010 02:11 PM (9b6FB)

103 Oops.  Tard post.  Forgot the link.  Here's Rand Paul's "issues" page.

Posted by: K~Bob at February 01, 2010 02:12 PM (9b6FB)

104

OT

Judy Wallman, a professional genealogy researcher in southern California , was doing some personal work on her own family tree. She discovered that Congressman Harry Reid's great-great uncle, Remus Reid, was hanged for horse stealing and train robbery in  Montana  in 1889. Both Judy and Harry Reid share this common ancestor.

The only known photograph of Remus shows him standing on the gallows  in  Montana  territory: 

Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at February 01, 2010 02:12 PM (ucq49)

105 I'm more or less for Kirk. Living in the suburbs of Chicago, there just isn't any way a strong conservative candidate will win out here. Someone posted earlier that Chicago thinks it is Illinois. That is only half true - the Illinois electorate is owned by Chicago + the suburbs where 9.5 million of the states 12 million people live. These are not tea party people... to win illinois as an R you need to win the suburbs and suppress the city minority vote. With the suburbs being straight purple (I know, I worked the SW burbs for 2000/2004 elections where my districts went roughly 53/47 for Bush), you just aren't going to get it done with the ideologically pure candidate. Just sayin...

Posted by: E.M. August at February 01, 2010 02:13 PM (E8wmM)

106

<---IL resident, voting tomorrow for Adam A.

Mark Kirk can choke on his Cap & Tax vote.

Posted by: James at February 01, 2010 02:14 PM (fC8vP)

107 She endorsed Rick Perry?  The Rick Perry who was perfectly happy forcing a severely overhyped innoculation to an allegedly cancer-causing STD on teenage girls well before they're even likely to engage in sexual activity?  That Rick Perry?  WTF was her explanation?

reason, is Medina another (R) in the race?  All I've heard of was Perry and Kay Barely-a-Republican.

Posted by: Methos at February 01, 2010 02:15 PM (Xsi7M)

108 Adam Ant is NOT the "Scott Brown of Illinois," with due apologies to El Rushbo. Would he be better than the Mediacrat idiots? Yes, who wouldn't be? But the real Scott Brown is Dan Proft. Or he will be if he wins...

Posted by: Fresh Air at February 01, 2010 02:16 PM (tE2Go)

109 "Andrzejewski..does anyone have any clues as how to pronounce that?" An-gee-eff-ski

Posted by: LtE113 (Mike in Chicago) at February 01, 2010 02:16 PM (heNM3)

110

Zero Hedge says these jerks are serious about nationalizing our 401ks. Labor and Treasury have issued a joint RFI, testing the waters. I don't know how the tinyurl thing works, but a pdf of the RFI is posted over there

Posted by: the other coyote at February 01, 2010 02:17 PM (yK44T)

111 The point being, do what you can to get a non-Dem elected

Posted by: the other coyote at February 01, 2010 02:18 PM (yK44T)

112

"Kay Barely-a-Republican."

Make that Kay "I voted for HC cloture" Bailey

Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at February 01, 2010 02:18 PM (ucq49)

113 E.M. @108  Kirk is unelectable statewide for the same reason the gutless GOP hold no other offices-they are openly at war with the conservative base.  Now the truth may well be that both a conservative-enough-to-get-base-support and establishment RINOs can't get elected statewide.

In that case, the solution is to leave Illinois to the maggots and invest in conservatives in other states where we can get decent people into office.

Posted by: Methos at February 01, 2010 02:20 PM (Xsi7M)

114

Yes, The Greater Chicago area is still said to be the home of more Poles than any urban area other than Warsaw.

I lived on the far Northwest side for three years while I was in law school because it was cheaper rent than on the lakefront and safe for commuting late at night. The Ward I lived in even had a Republican alderman for a couple of terms.   A lot of the area Poles voted Republican in the general election but wouldn't take a Republican primary ballot because they worried their garbage wouldn't be picked up or their street plowed.  Bringing in Walesa is aimed at getting these voters to take a Republican ballot. 

Posted by: NC Mountain Girl at February 01, 2010 02:20 PM (AKcMv)

115 TOC-- If the Mediacrats think they're in trouble now, wait til they mess around with peoples' retirement money. If they did that and ZeroCare, I could see a 75-seat pickup in the House and a dozen Senate seats. Them's fightin' words.

Posted by: Fresh Air at February 01, 2010 02:22 PM (tE2Go)

116 Can amnesty be far behind?  President Delusional & San Fran Nan don't seem to have gotten the message yet. 

Posted by: sybilll at February 01, 2010 02:28 PM (YSJ+G)

117 Looking forward to my first Chicago area election tomorrow, and voting for Hughes and Adam A. I wonder how many times they'll let me?

Posted by: Doc at February 01, 2010 02:30 PM (rzJpR)

118

"I wonder how many times they'll let me?"

If you're a DemonCrook, the sky's the limit.

Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at February 01, 2010 02:32 PM (ucq49)

119 Whatever gets the godawful ads off the tv for a while

Posted by: Doc at February 01, 2010 02:33 PM (rzJpR)

120 Posted by: K~Bob at February 01, 2010 06:11 PM (9b6FB)

Most of the hand-wringing at FR over it seemed to be coming from one or two guys.

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b+/tard at February 01, 2010 02:35 PM (IoUF1)

121

"Most of the hand-wringing at FR over it seemed to be coming from one or two guys."

Eeyores or Mobies?

Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at February 01, 2010 02:39 PM (ucq49)

122 123 Posted by: K~Bob at February 01, 2010 06:11 PM (9b6FB)

Most of the hand-wringing at FR over it seemed to be coming from one or two guys.

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b+/tard at February 01, 2010 06:35 PM (IoUF1)

Hmmm.  I didn't count, so I'll go with your read on it.  But I did see an a$$load of angry replies to a small number of posts who were (sort of) defending Palin's endorsement.  Of course, they have a lot of Ron Paul supporters posting there, and maybe that's who was getting hammered.  I try not to lurk long there because I can only laugh so long before needing a breather.

Posted by: K~Bob at February 01, 2010 02:41 PM (9b6FB)

123 I didn't read all the previous comments, and Imma let you finish, but:

Mark Kirk hates the 2nd Amendment with a Flaming Passion...

Posted by: TXMarko at February 01, 2010 02:44 PM (0nX59)

124

Eeyores or Mobies?

Posted by: MDr VB1.0 CS1st at February 01, 2010 06:39 PM (ucq49)

I looked again.  ol_dirty_/b+/tard was correct-o.  Some guy is spamming the hell outta the threads by claiming all sorts of wacky stuff.

Reminds me of a dood I argued with for months once back in 2003, who claimed he was a "real conservative" because he was so pro life that he was against the Iraq war because Bush should have gone to war against abortionists first, or something.

Posted by: K~Bob at February 01, 2010 02:53 PM (9b6FB)

125 10
Ok, it took a chick who played on Star Trek Voyager to catapult Obama into his Senate seat and then the presidency and now a GOPer with the last name Kirk most likely will get the seat he once occupied.


Am I the only one seeing this

I see that Mike Ditka's reluctance birthed Obama as POTUS.  That Borg chick with the impressive ta-ta's was part of the conspiracy.

She listed her hobbies as sucking the chrome off a trailer hitch, blowing Senate candidates and their chances for a seat, and macrame

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at February 01, 2010 02:57 PM (JrRME)

126 In fairness to Kirk, it appears from the link that he only hates the kind of guns that would be necessary to actually deter tyranny.  The kind you use to rob a liquor store seem fine.

Posted by: K~Bob at February 01, 2010 03:00 PM (9b6FB)

127 Just Say No To Mark Kirk.

Posted by: D_Fitz at February 01, 2010 03:06 PM (nyFP6)

128 There is not official Tea Party candidate. I'm a Tea Partier and I'm voting for Dan Proft.

There must be a Will County asshole on every blog.

Posted by: D_Fitz at February 01, 2010 03:09 PM (nyFP6)

129 Been voting in IL since 1978 (the year I turned 1 Kirk is in the Ill national guard. Hughes has never held elective office. There's no-one running who is even close to his service record. Say it with me "Senator Kirk from Illinois" The pissant the dem's send up (Giannoulis) won't stand a chance.

Posted by: TheThiman at February 01, 2010 03:26 PM (B/sRG)

130 I saw him at Union Station the other day. He's a "little guy" but his record (fair or foul) will win the day. Aint a dem, but I did some political work back in the day...Kirk will win, Hughes can't

Posted by: TheThiman at February 01, 2010 03:28 PM (B/sRG)

131 KIrk vs Hughes isn't a race. Kirk wins. Adam A. is the key. We have to vote him in. That will send a message to all the crooks in Illinois. We are coming. Want to see urine run down any representatives leg that voted for health care-Vote Adam A.! They will wee wee all the way back to DC. Because in November, they are out.

Posted by: jeff at February 01, 2010 03:31 PM (i0/N7)

132 BTW, on the Communist side, I hope the slimy Gianoullis wins. Obama doesn't have to bow down to him because when they meet Alexi already has his knee pads out and mouth open. The guy that scares me is Hoffman. He is a real reformer. The kind independents love to vote for. Hoffman vs Kirk would be a tough race. Kirk vs Giannoulis would be close simply because of the Chicago Machine, but I bet at the end of the day it's Kirk 54 Dis-lexi 46. He is a true sleezeball.

Posted by: jeff at February 01, 2010 03:34 PM (i0/N7)

133 K-Bob

The freepers deserting Palin doesn't surprise me one bit.   It's my opinion that Free Republic has been infiltrated by moles who take ultra-right positions in order to stir up dissatisfaction with good candidates.  

I have seen this pattern repeated ever since 2000, when the owner of the site visciously attacked Bush and only supported him after he won the primaries.  The pattern was repeated with Guliani, Romney, and now Palin.

For these people no one is ever good enough, and they stir up discontent and division.   Weak-minded people tend to follow these disruptors.

They also were the ones who stirred up the anti-Bush sentiment among Republicans during the second term.   I may be too suspicious,  but I never ran into anyone who was as virulent about Republicans as those people on FR, and I live in the most conservative district in Indiana.

Posted by: Miss Marple at February 01, 2010 03:39 PM (4DwVn)

134 There is not official Tea Party candidate. I'm a Tea Partier and I'm voting for Dan Proft. There must be a Will County asshole on every blog. What does this mean? I will second the poster. I am also a Tea Partier who is voting for Proft. Who the hell are you, anyway?

Posted by: Fresh Air at February 01, 2010 03:45 PM (tE2Go)

135 The guy that scares me is Hoffman. He is a real reformer. The kind independents love to vote for. Hoffman vs Kirk would be a tough race.

Exactly.  He'd make it much easier for anti-Kirk conservatives to crossover.

Posted by: Methos at February 01, 2010 03:49 PM (Xsi7M)

136 I'm in Mark Kirk's district (Chicago North Shore burbs; a/k/a Ferrisbuelerstan) and he's not that bad considering the alternatives. The neighboring district to the south is Jan Schakowsky, of the House Batshit Insane Caucus.

Yeah, he's a RINO, but compared to Roland Burris or Dick Durbin, he's like the feral love child of Ayn Rand and Curtis R. LeMay.

Posted by: iowahawk at February 01, 2010 03:50 PM (veL4N)

137 I'm in the SW burbs - I'm voting Hughes. I don't believe I have actually scene a conservative on a ballot in IL -

Posted by: Daisy at February 01, 2010 04:06 PM (T0ga9)

138 Family from IL and in Kirk's district.  He's no Star Fleet captain, he's awful.  Changed his position on Crap 'n' Tax?  I flamed his CoS's (Lester Munson) vmail after C'n'T vote.  Wonder if the wide-spread virtual scourging had anything to do with his change of heart... and he really is anti-2nd Amendment.  A true RINO, he will 180 and charge us after we put him in office.  Also I think he hates his "Stone Age" dad...

Posted by: LivefromRussianHill at February 01, 2010 04:06 PM (z5cP1)

139

Woops! That would be "seen" - must be thinking of my play draft...

Posted by: Daisy at February 01, 2010 04:08 PM (T0ga9)

140

63 Adam Ant will be a disaster as general candidate. Yesterday he was caught out not knowing how many Republicans were in the General Assembly, or even how many seats there are in both chambers. He also looks like Howdy Doody.

And Adam Ant sounds exactly like, Adam Ant!!!  Nice guy, but no pipes.  He could have a career voicing cartoon characters.

 

81  vote Dillard if you are choosing from the status quo.

NOOOO!  Do not vote for Dillard!  He cut a TV commercial for Obama in the 2008 presidential election!  How can he even call himself a republican??!!!

 

I live in Kirk's IL-10 district.  IT IS A VERY LIBERAL DISTRICT.  The choices in this district are squish republican or hard leftist.  Right next door in IL-9 is Jan Schakowsky.  She is Nancy Pelosi's best girlfriend in the House.  Mark Kirk is surprisingly conservative for being in such a blue district in a blue state.  The voters in IL-10 are my neighbors, those of us who are conservative or republican discuss politics in safe houses.  The local high school has over 4,000 kids, you know how many of them are in the republican club?  9.  That's right, 9.  Meantime, the young democrats have a full house, as does the aclu club, and all sorts of social justice organizations. (social justice is code for socialism/communism)

 

Pat Hughes record shows that he hasn't voted in years!  Go Kirk!


 

Posted by: Boots at February 01, 2010 06:45 PM (06JTY)

141

Kirk for senate and Proft for governor tomorrow for me. And it is a strong proud vote that I will cast for each of them.  Different races and different circumstances but both are excellent candidates.  I yelled at Kirk about the cap,and trade vote but if you read the Weekly Standard article Ace linked above in which Kirk explains it, you will better understand the tightrope he was walking with that vote in his district.  I absolutely guarantee he will not vote for cap and trade when he is in Washington as the junior senator from Illinois.

Oh, and the primary is tomorrow because 2 years ago when our "favorite son" was running for president the democrat legislature changed the primary date so Illinois could be FIRST!!!!  Hey, that's how they roll.

Posted by: ratskeller at February 01, 2010 07:28 PM (8c0Nf)

142 At least he has recanted his cap and trade vote.

He voted for cap and trade? If the answer is yes, then every effort should be made to replace the guy with someone else, even if it's a losing proposition. That's the way to make clear that the people he is supposed to represent aren't happy with the job he's doing.

Never give a politician the chance to play you for a sucker twice.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at February 01, 2010 07:42 PM (8PFPH)

143 Blacque Jacques, buy a clue.  At least read the main post before you comment.  Kirk is running for Senate. The "replacing" to be done  here is replacing Roland Burris.

Posted by: ratskeller at February 01, 2010 07:54 PM (8c0Nf)

Posted by: Kirk at February 01, 2010 08:50 PM (du7Sc)

145 Proft is all hat and no cattle. Talks a good game, never ran for anything. Poses as an outsider, but his day job is a PR operation that does all its business with local governments ($hundreds of thousands in no-bid contracts from Cicero).

Andrzejewski is a vanity candidate, Never ran for anything before, recites some good talking points but has no real program.

McKenna is a corrupt RINO insider - and heaven help us, the front runner.

Ryan is old, tired, lost to Blagojevich in 2002.

Brady had his shot in 2006; split the conservative vote so an insider got the nomination.

Dillard is the only conservative with a chance to stop McKenna. He said some stupid things about Obama during the 2008 Democrat primaries, but he campaigned for McCain in November, He's sound on guns, abortion, taxes - and knows the state government inside out. McKenna is spending $millions to attack him.

Also for any  Illinoisans:

Jim Dodge for comptroller. Topinka is trying a comeback with that office. The other candidate, Kelly, is a nitwit whose girlfriend works for Topinka's PR firm.

Jason Plummer for Lieutenant Governor, Matt Murphy is McKenna's crony and Plummer is the strongest alternative.

Drew M.: The primary is in February to stretch out the election process and make it even harder for outsiders to challenge the Combine. Filing date for the primary was November 2, 2009 - only 10 months into the 2-year term of a state representative.

Posted by: Rich Rostrom at February 01, 2010 09:12 PM (lfIMg)

146

Not to sound like a broken record here, but Dillard cut a TV commercial for Obama during the 2008 presidential race!!!  Was McCain the most exciting candidate in the history of Illinois?  No, but Obama is a democrat for pete's sake so no republican with any sense of party loyalty should have cut a TV spot for Obama.  Period.  Right now if Colin Powell ran for anything as a republican, would anybody support him?  No I don't think so.  The only thing worse than a rino is a republican who endorses democrats.

For gov, Brady is a good guy, long history downstate, could run an effective campaign against either Hynes or Quinn in the general.

For Lt. gov, Plummer is only 27 years old, he has zero experience doing anything.  Talk about all hat no cattle.  Don Tracy on the other hand is an attractive conservative who has years of business experience.

Posted by: Boots at February 01, 2010 09:44 PM (06JTY)

147
I'm going to vote this morning.  Kirk, of course.

Everyone screaming that Kirk is a RINO or "disgraced his uniform" by receiving special treatment while a reserve officer --

Whatever else he is, he is no DeDe.  Please, people, get a grip.

This is Illinois, people.  Our other Senator had no qualms comparing American troops to Nazis and Pol Pot's forces.  Kirk by all rights should just resign from the National Guard, agreed, if he is going to be a full time member of Congress, but in the end, his service speaks for itself as something better than the alternative.

Look, Kirk is a "moderate" on the McCain model.  I don't have any patience for those who insist that every candidate be Santorum or Go To Hell.  We had Alan Keyes run here, and he was one of the many cockups of the Republican party that handed that Senate Seat to The One on silver platter.

Kirk is a moderate.  If he still believed in Cap'n'Tax, he would be unacceptable.  He doesn't and he's not.  Yes, he's a gun grabber -- bad -- and the surge thing is puzzling.  He's either not too bright or he bends in the wind, but either way the winds are blowing rightward, and he's one more vote against Obamacare and against Harry Reid.

===

The REAL issue is the governor's pile-up.  The question here is between Andre--shshhsh--uh, whatever -- and Dan Proft.  I go between the both of them.  I'm going to vote in 30 minutes and I'm honestly still undecided.  Proft is the better speaker, but Andreshshshky might ride that Polish omnibus.  Or either might just be a protest vote. 

I'd sqeal like a schoolgirl to get either of them in there.

Proft has Ditka's endorsement, so there's that.

Also, Rush did NOT call Andresshshhshsky the "Scott Brown of Illinois" he deliberately said he didn't want to say any names.  (He was just playing Lech Walesa quotes at an Andresshshshsky rally).  He deliberately said he didn't want to make an endorsement but made it sound like he endorsed Andre-- uh -- the Polish guy.

Also, I still live on the Northwest side.  Polish girls are like nothing else, true.

Posted by: dandoz at February 02, 2010 04:25 AM (TpmsL)

148 It's PAT Hughes, not Paul.

Posted by: Deb at February 02, 2010 05:49 AM (H4muE)

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