December 08, 2010

Tonight In The Lame Duck- No DREAM Act Vote Tonight?
— DrewM

Lots of things going on.

The House just passed a Continuing Resolution to fund the government through the rest of the fiscal year (September '11). The GOP in the Senate isn't likely to go for that. With their increased numbers and Republican control of the House coming next month, they are going to want a shorter CR so they can have more control over the budget.

Also in the House, they are debating their version of the DREAM Act right now. Earlier today, Harry Reid said for procedural reasons, the Senate had to wait for the House to act. It's clear the House will pass it, though the vote on the rule was pretty close (I think this is it even though the title of the bill is odd). Once that's done the Senate can move but now there are reports it won't be tonight. (Update: MSNBC says no Senate DREAM Act vote tonight)

And finally, DADT. Susan Collins (Pain In The Ass, ME) really, really wants to vote for this and she's trying to make it impossible for Reid to say no to her (heads up, it's a link to TPM). She says she's sticking to the plan that the tax deal must come first. Reid has apparently pulled DADT from tonight's schedule, so that might mean he's going to do taxes and then get Collins on DADT. Someone needs to remind Collins that the letter from the GOP said taxes AND the Continuing Resolution had to come first, not just the taxes.

As always with Congress, this is all subject to change without notice.

Posted by: DrewM at 03:11 PM | Comments (377)
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1 F the Democrats and the liberal Republicans. Thanks.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at December 08, 2010 03:14 PM (5I0Yr)

2 Ugh. When will this lame duck session end?

Posted by: Joe at December 08, 2010 03:15 PM (ZVFB/)

3 'lame duck sessions of Congress need to be gotten rid of ---NOW

many of these clowns have been voted out of office or are retiring, and they have no mandate.\

word for the day:  TRAVESTY

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at December 08, 2010 03:15 PM (UqKQV)

4 3: Right on that. That is one PROGRESSIVE change that I am all for. Congress should be seated within 2-3 weeks of election and should be in recess between the election and that time.

Posted by: PaleRider at December 08, 2010 03:17 PM (dkExz)

5 Gee, a new CR passed by nancy pelolo. What's the deficit figure for that abortion?

Posted by: joeindc44 at December 08, 2010 03:17 PM (QxSug)

6 Any word on what democrat-lite Manchin ("all the spending without as much of the treason" (TM)) is going to do?

Posted by: joeindc44 at December 08, 2010 03:19 PM (QxSug)

7 I am still surprised that there is not a Senate rule that allows, say, 10 Senators to delay any lame duck legislation until the next Congress is seated.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 08, 2010 03:23 PM (T0NGe)

8 Nobody really gives a shit, do they? I scream at the walls Every. Frikken'. Day. Yesterday I furrowed my brow and shook my fist at the computer! What are you doing??

Posted by: Jambo..fetch the chocolate sauce! at December 08, 2010 03:24 PM (mdv0J)

9 So can we just skip to the end, round up the progressives, put them into a camp and make them watch Kid Rock videos forever?

Posted by: tangonine at December 08, 2010 03:25 PM (x3YFz)

10 8 Nobody really gives a shit, do they? I scream at the walls Every. Frikken'. Day. Yesterday I furrowed my brow and shook my fist at the computer! What are you doing??

Posted by: Jambo..fetch the chocolate sauce! at December 08, 2010 07:24 PM (mdv0J)

I'm a pretty unreasonable, unapproachable, uncivilized guy, but, dude... really?

Posted by: tangonine at December 08, 2010 03:26 PM (x3YFz)

11 5 Gee, a new CR passed by nancy pelolo. What's the deficit figure for that abortion?

1.1 Trillion, with such lovely additions such as the "food-safety" legislation and 624 million for implementation of the START treaty.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 08, 2010 03:26 PM (c0A3e)

12 7 I am still surprised that there is not a Senate rule that allows, say, 10 Senators to delay any lame duck legislation until the next Congress is seated.

Wasn't it the case that in the past, lame duck sessions weren't used to shove controversial legislation down the public's collective throat? 

If true, this is yet another "unprecedented" event of the Obama Administration.  Huzzah. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 08, 2010 03:28 PM (c0A3e)

13 If true, this is yet another "unprecedented" event of the Obama Administration.  Huzzah. 
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 08, 2010 07:28 PM

How do you s'pose it's going to end?

Posted by: arhooley, conflicted Californian at December 08, 2010 03:31 PM (eYY8A)

14 Why do black politicians support amnesty?

Posted by: Barbarianez at December 08, 2010 03:32 PM (EL+OC)

15 #13  How do you s'pose it's going to end?

In...only chaos. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 08, 2010 03:34 PM (c0A3e)

16 14 Why do black politicians support amnesty?
Posted by: Barbarianez

Because they're as stupid as their white counterparts who support amnesty.

Posted by: kathysaysso at December 08, 2010 03:34 PM (ZtwUX)

17 I'm having flashbacks to last year. Am I gonna be up all night with you clowns on Christmas Eve praying for snow and wondering which Blue Dog or RINO is going to cave?

Posted by: arhooley, conflicted Californian at December 08, 2010 03:34 PM (eYY8A)

18

The Special Report "After the show show" just ended.  When Bret joked and asked Carl Cameron (at the Capitol) if they would all be here on Christmas Eve like last year, Cameron said "without a doubt."  He was serious as a heart attack. 

Does Valu-Rite come in a time-release formula?

Posted by: RushBabe at December 08, 2010 03:34 PM (a3Z62)

19 ugh.

We gotta get that stupid Collins twat outa there.

This bunch of criminal retard villains is less like a lame duck and more like a ticking time bomb.

And fuck you Reid voters. I hope you lose your house.


Posted by: sifty at December 08, 2010 03:35 PM (MoA1d)

20 #13  How do you s'pose it's going to end?

In...only chaos. 
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 08, 2010 07:34 PM
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Actually, you didn't have to answer.

Posted by: arhooley, conflicted Californian at December 08, 2010 03:35 PM (eYY8A)

21 Wasn't it the case that in the past, lame duck sessions weren't used to shove controversial legislation down the public's collective throat? 

If true, this is yet another "unprecedented" event of the Obama Administration.  Huzzah. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 08, 2010 07:28 PM (c0A3e)

The ends justify the means.

Posted by: Zombie Saul Alinsky at December 08, 2010 03:35 PM (a3Z62)

22 16 14 Why do black politicians support amnesty?
Posted by: Barbarianez

Because they're as stupid as their white counterparts who support amnesty.

Posted by: kathysaysso at December 08, 2010 07:34 PM (ZtwUX)


It just seems so, so anti-Negro to me.


Posted by: Barbarianez at December 08, 2010 03:37 PM (EL+OC)

23  Why do black politicians support amnesty?

Posted by: Barbarianez at December 08, 2010 07:32 PM (EL+OC)

I take great delight in telling all the militant black Ebola lovers I know that their voting bloc is being thrown overboard for the Messicans.  The black politicians might claim to like it, but the folks in the trenches aren't down with it.

Posted by: RushBabe at December 08, 2010 03:38 PM (a3Z62)

24 How do you s'pose it's going to end?

You just HAD to say it.

Posted by: thisheavenlyhell at December 08, 2010 03:39 PM (8uDC8)

25 I believe that people like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson have lied enough to convince black voters and black politicians that amnesty for illegals is a chess move toward reparations.

Posted by: sifty at December 08, 2010 03:39 PM (MoA1d)

26 Big Sis said (I paraphrase) that they need to pass the dream act because these students are just hard working youngsters that want to live the American dream. Me thinks she has not viewed the radical leftists waving Mexican flags  and shouting La Raza slogans. Me also thinks Big Sis has long past her level of competence.

Posted by: Buffalobob at December 08, 2010 03:41 PM (GwH6h)

28 Big Uncle Janet ain't got the brains God gave geese. But she sure got the ass.

Posted by: sifty at December 08, 2010 03:43 PM (MoA1d)

29
What's up with Tom Coburn?

Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at December 08, 2010 03:43 PM (5iMvt)

30 And fuck you Reid voters. I hope you lose your house. get overrun by Mexican drug gangs shooting everything up with AK-47s.

Posted by: sifty at December 08, 2010 07:35 PM (MoA1d)

Not really a FIFY, just needed to say that.

Posted by: ErikW at December 08, 2010 03:44 PM (p9mrf)

31 amen

Posted by: sifty at December 08, 2010 03:45 PM (MoA1d)

32 OT, but this is really neat: Religious symbolism of The Twelve Days of Christmas   (The 12 Days of Christmas) 1 True Love refers to God 2 Turtle Doves refers to the Old and New Testaments 3 French Hens refers to Faith, Hope and Charity, the Theological Virtues 4 Calling Birds refers to the Four Gospels and/or the Four Evangelists 5 Golden Rings refers to the first Five Books of the Old Testament, the "Pentateuch", which gives the history of man's fall from grace. 6 Geese A-laying refers to the six days of creation 7 Swans A-swimming refers to the seven gifts of the Holy Spirit, the sacraments 8 Maids A-milking refers to the eight beatitudes 9 Ladies Dancing refers to the nine Fruits of the Holy Spirit 10 Lords A-leaping refers to the ten commandments 11 Pipers Piping refers to the eleven faithful apostles 12 Drummers Drumming refers to the points of doctrine in the Apostle's Creed I guess that makes the patridge in a pear tree "True Love"?

Posted by: CoolCzech at December 08, 2010 03:45 PM (tJjm/)

33 That fucking crook Rangel pisses me off.

Posted by: Barbarianez at December 08, 2010 03:45 PM (EL+OC)

34 Sorry, I can't comment yet--I'm still reading Ace's previous post.

Posted by: Never Mind at December 08, 2010 03:46 PM (pn6Nq)

35 I'm pretty sure that Partridge in a Pear Tree refers to a busty gal in a nurse uniform and stompy boots.

the rest i agree with.

Posted by: sifty at December 08, 2010 03:46 PM (MoA1d)

36 Sorry, I can't comment yet--I'm still reading Ace's previous post. That's not the AoS way.

Posted by: fluffy at December 08, 2010 03:51 PM (SwkdU)

37
Did I hear right?

"Tea Party Favorite" Tom Coburn wants to end the tax cuts?

Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at December 08, 2010 03:51 PM (5iMvt)

Posted by: logprof at December 08, 2010 03:52 PM (BP6Z1)

39 35 I'm pretty sure that Partridge in a Pear Tree refers to a busty gal in a nurse uniform and stompy boots. the rest i agree with. Actually I'm thinking it refers to Christ, God's ONE Son, nailed to a TREE as God's Ultimate (i.e., Last) gift to us.

Posted by: CoolCzech at December 08, 2010 03:53 PM (tJjm/)

40

Maybe stalling is a good strategy. 

Doesn't the Gov'ment shutdown soon if the budget is not passed?

Pass the Tax deal, Frak DADT, Dream, & all the other Crap. 

Leave it for the 112TH. 

Watch Harry CROAK.

 

Been there?

Post Office is a perfect spot to highlight government incompetence and waste.

Posted by: Predictions at December 08, 2010 03:55 PM (CyPWX)

41 @33 Barbarianez Your anger is misplaced. Think of the 74,193 who cast votes for him last month.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 08, 2010 03:55 PM (xJVlJ)

42 38 Cholera in Haiti traced to UN camp.

Thank, Blue Helmets!

The UN is always spreading its shit around.  Poor Haitians. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 08, 2010 03:56 PM (c0A3e)

43 Sorry, I can't comment yet--I'm still reading Ace's previous post.

That's not the AoS way.

Posted by: fluffy at December 08, 2010 07:51 PM (SwkdU

In fact, it's customary to not read the post at all and then to immediately go off topic.

Speaking of off topic, I hear the upcoming Snowmageddon Event of 2010 is going to dump a foot of snow across the Ohio Valley and the Northeast!

Time to stock up on PBR!

Posted by: ErikW at December 08, 2010 03:58 PM (p9mrf)

44
You guys hear the old audio of Paul McCartney right after he found out Lennon was dead?

"It's a drag, eh?"

Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at December 08, 2010 03:58 PM (/AACO)

45
I like that expression.

What a drag, man.

We should bring it back.

Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at December 08, 2010 03:59 PM (5iMvt)

46 Hey, we have to balance the rape and pillaging with some good, old-fashioned epidemics.

Posted by: The UN at December 08, 2010 04:00 PM (x3YFz)

47 Fuck, earlier link did not work.

Here.

Posted by: logprof at December 08, 2010 04:00 PM (BP6Z1)

48 "In fact, it's customary to not read the post at all and then to immediately go off topic." Well, I do try my best, thanks! :-D

Posted by: CoolCzech at December 08, 2010 04:00 PM (tJjm/)

49 @45 With McCartney getting to look more and more like an elderly lesbian with each passing year, pay close attention. The moonbatty little poof knows exactly what he's talking about.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 08, 2010 04:01 PM (xJVlJ)

50 Not voting on the DREAM act tonight is a drag.

Posted by: Harries Shriveled Balls at December 08, 2010 04:01 PM (9q4PA)

Posted by: logprof at December 08, 2010 04:01 PM (BP6Z1)

52
does that clip include the audio of Cosell and Gifford discussing whether or not they should announce it?

It was Gifford's call, really.

Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at December 08, 2010 04:05 PM (5iMvt)

53 Hoyer quoting that fucking inbred dick Jeb.

Posted by: Barbarianez at December 08, 2010 04:06 PM (EL+OC)

54
And MNF fans were the first in the nation/world to hear about Lennon's death.

True story. They broke the story.

Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at December 08, 2010 04:07 PM (5iMvt)

55 Even MS-Luna-C is throwing in the towel on the DREAM act's chances of passing. I'm not sweating it.

Posted by: CoolCzech at December 08, 2010 04:07 PM (tJjm/)

56

Posted by: CoolCzech at December 08, 2010 07:45 PM (tJjm/)

That's pretty nifty. 

Posted by: RushBabe at December 08, 2010 04:07 PM (a3Z62)

57 Too bad Yoko wasn't around to take a hollowpoint or two.

Posted by: ErikW at December 08, 2010 04:08 PM (p9mrf)

58 Even MS-Luna-C is throwing in the towel on the DREAM act's chances of passing.

I'm not sweating it.

Posted by: CoolCzech at December 08, 2010 08:07 PM (tJjm/)

We thought the same thing about Ebola Care.

Posted by: RushBabe at December 08, 2010 04:08 PM (a3Z62)

59 Fuck the fucking Beatles. I came pretty damned close to being suspended from high school for circulating a petition imploring Mark David Chapman to organize a Beatles reunion. If it weren't for the threat of imprisonment, there'd be no damned reason to suffer any fucking hippie to live.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 08, 2010 04:09 PM (xJVlJ)

60 Beatles suck.  Stupid hippies.  Their music is ass.  No... it's the part that gets stuck to the hair of your ass that you can't reach unless you wipe 5 times or use a babywipe.  That's the Beatle's music.  That part.

Posted by: tangonine at December 08, 2010 04:12 PM (x3YFz)

61

Drew - what is the vote status of the Dream Act in the Senate?  They don't have 60 to break a filibuster do they?

 

Posted by: journolist at December 08, 2010 04:12 PM (LwLqV)

62 I came pretty damned close to being suspended from high school for circulating a petition imploring Mark David Chapman to organize a Beatles reunion. Eric Clapton pushed his kid out a window and wrote a song about it.

Posted by: Gibby Haynes at December 08, 2010 04:13 PM (SwkdU)

63 62 I came pretty damned close to being suspended from high school for circulating a petition imploring Mark David Chapman to organize a Beatles reunion.

Eric Clapton pushed his kid out a window and wrote a song about it.

Posted by: Gibby Haynes at December 08, 2010 08:13 PM (SwkdU)

His music sucked, too.

Posted by: tangonine at December 08, 2010 04:14 PM (x3YFz)

64 So there's no way in the world the good guys could stall, obstruct, and generally hinder the progress of this until this session of congress is over? What the hell happens in DC anyway, do they have to leave their balls outside the city limits or what??!! This is where just 1 sufficiently ballsy person could become a national hero. Just 1, that's all...Hello? At this point if we could cut a deal with the muzzies, where they'd just go after politicians, attorneys (Sorry Gabe), and journalism majors, i really think we could work something out.

Posted by: cali grump at December 08, 2010 04:14 PM (hL0k8)

65 Customary is an understatement.

Posted by: sTevo at December 08, 2010 04:15 PM (hiMsy)

66 65 Mick Jagger wrote a song about banging David Bowie's wife.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at December 08, 2010 08:14 PM (vbh31)

Mick spawned at least 1 hottie we know of.  Let's not criticize him if his seed = hawtness.

Posted by: tangonine at December 08, 2010 04:15 PM (x3YFz)

67 @60 Fuck that. The babywipe shit is what the Monkees were. What the Beatles were is the shit that sticks until you hit it with a propane torch.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 08, 2010 04:16 PM (xJVlJ)

68 I now have a new favorite baseball player.  heh  Brave dude, whatever you think of his comments.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at December 08, 2010 04:16 PM (aUE7j)

69 His music sucked, too. Mine or Eric Clapton's?

Posted by: Gibby Haynes at December 08, 2010 04:16 PM (SwkdU)

70

CoolCzech, going off topic is good.

And regarding the 12 days of Christmas song, I sang the entire song by memory on Monday at a cub scout meeting in front of a bunch of 7 year old kids who went absolutely beserk over the song.  And of course I had to add the operatic touches to the whole thing and all.

 

Posted by: journolist at December 08, 2010 04:17 PM (LwLqV)

71 65 Mick Jagger wrote a song about banging David Bowie's wife. Posted by: Soap MacTavish at December 08, 2010 08:14 PM (vbh31) Bowie did a video about banging Mick Jagger.

Posted by: CoolCzech at December 08, 2010 04:17 PM (tJjm/)

72 @65 Bowie was really proud of himself for hitting from both sides of the plate.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 08, 2010 04:18 PM (xJVlJ)

73
Cher killed Sonny Bono with a Trident and then made it look like a skiing accident.

Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at December 08, 2010 04:19 PM (5iMvt)

74 Bowie was really proud of himself for hitting from both sides of the plate. Really? He denies the whole thing these days.

Posted by: Paul Leary at December 08, 2010 04:20 PM (SwkdU)

75

If you're not from Southern California or Arizona, you don't have the right to promote the dream act.  enough said.  We're being overrun here.  The illegals use a cash only / no taxes system in their culture, and therefore the census data shows them to be much poorer than they actually are.

I see illegals all the time in brand new 35-$40,000 trucks that they pay CASH for.  While me, the evil white man, has been driving the same volkswagen for 10 years.  My children have to pay for lunch at school while they get it free.  Enough is enough

 

Nobody in new england has the right to add to this debate.  certainly nobody from maine.  For the elitists living elsewhere.. do you have those no questions asked check cashing places every 30 feet?  Whatcha think those are for?  Law abiding people? no.  they're for people that can't get drivers licenses and open a checking account.  Judging by the fact that there are more of those stores than fastfood places here, I'd say all 20 million plus illegals live here.

its no longer 12 million idiots in the media.  When we were fighting this crap 10 years ago you were using the same numbers.  20 million is the most conservative estimate.  35 wouldn't surprise me a bit.

We need to push back the hordes folks.  Or if not, lets stop pretending the border means anything, ok?  We're adults.  we don't play pretend anymore

Posted by: John Frum at December 08, 2010 04:20 PM (qQG8/)

76 Full interview/more context here.  Both on Drudge as well.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at December 08, 2010 04:20 PM (aUE7j)

77 75
Cher killed Sonny Bono with a Trident and then made it look like a skiing accident.

Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at December 08, 2010 08:19 PM (5iMvt)

< Was it Chinese made leaving a chem trail?

Posted by: journolist at December 08, 2010 04:20 PM (LwLqV)

78 8 Nobody really gives a shit, do they? I scream at the walls Every. Frikken'. Day. Yesterday I furrowed my brow and shook my fist at the computer! What are you doing??

Posted by: Jambo..fetch the chocolate sauce! at December 08, 2010 07:24 PM (mdv0J)

Well, I am busy taking macro photos of various parts of my bicycle with one hand whilst banning birthers and christianists via Droid with the other. Let's see you nazi creationists beat that.

Posted by: Charles "Chuckles" Johnson at December 08, 2010 04:20 PM (hrtAe)

79

Bowie did a video about banging Mick Jagger.

Iss  ith on u-twoob?

Posted by: Bwaney Fwank at December 08, 2010 04:21 PM (9q4PA)

80 57 Too bad Yoko wasn't around to take a hollowpoint or two. Posted by: ErikW at December 08, 2010 08:08 PM (p9mrf) Now, now, don't piss her off or she'll release another CD!

Posted by: CoolCzech at December 08, 2010 04:21 PM (tJjm/)

81 It's fucked-up, but I liked Clapton until that dead horse, Layla, got beaten into dust as vanguard of the "unplugged" fad. That, and the overplaying of "Tears in Heaven" made me sick of his shit. Looking back, "Wonderful Tonight" should have been enough over thirty years ago.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 08, 2010 04:21 PM (xJVlJ)

82 Oh gawd....Pelosi

Posted by: Barbarianez at December 08, 2010 04:21 PM (EL+OC)

83 Nobody in new england has the right to add to this debate. First, go fuck yourself with an unripe pineapple. B, we more Brazilians here than Sao Paulo

Posted by: fluffy, 1st Amendment totin' Masshole at December 08, 2010 04:22 PM (SwkdU)

84

I'll give Clapton a pass because he's a neighbor and I might actually run into him some day.

Change the World with BabyFace was fucking annoying, tho.

Posted by: ErikW at December 08, 2010 04:23 PM (p9mrf)

85
I'm glad the Democrats are doing this.

It keeps how nasty they are fresh in the Republican's minds.

Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at December 08, 2010 04:23 PM (5iMvt)

86 @77 Are you funnin' me on the Bowie's denying it thing? The reason I ask is because I haven't been paying attention for at least fifteen years. He did some explicitly homosex tunes at around the same time Elton John was still in the closet.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 08, 2010 04:25 PM (xJVlJ)

87 Are you funnin' me on the Bowie's denying it thing? Nope. I know about the songs, so the denial is a bit surprising. My take is that he is married, monogamous and doesn't want to discuss his past.

Posted by: fluffy at December 08, 2010 04:27 PM (SwkdU)

88 The eponymous Angie said on teewee she caught Mick and David in bed.

Posted by: CoolCzech at December 08, 2010 04:31 PM (tJjm/)

89

It's fucked-up, but I liked Clapton until that dead horse, Layla, got beaten into dust as vanguard of the "unplugged" fad. Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 08, 2010 08:21 PM (xJVlJ)

The "unplugged" idea was pretty cool. As much as I hate MTV and VH1 and all that shit, the concept of turning the amps off was a winner.

Of course, it didn't take long for them to abandon that...

Posted by: ErikW at December 08, 2010 04:31 PM (p9mrf)

90 Buncha freeks.

Posted by: kd lang at December 08, 2010 04:31 PM (9q4PA)

91 @90 Heh. That's funny as shit. He should have thought about that before he took to the stage extolling the great joys of being testicle-slapped on the chin.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 08, 2010 04:32 PM (xJVlJ)

92 O/T-Damn... Aretha Franklin has pancreatic cancer.  And not every patient is Peggy from Cancer Treatment Centers of America.

http://tinyurl.com/2fzwzg6

Posted by: Ombudsman at December 08, 2010 04:33 PM (c1oyg)

93
Aretha is going about 400lbs now.

Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at December 08, 2010 04:35 PM (5iMvt)

94 DADT

Has an incremental benefit/cost analysis been done showing it is > 1 ?


Uhhh, since not one flaming asshole (no pun intended) has shown any benefit, it is absolutely a waste. No that benefit/cost > 1.0 has ever been suggested in any federal legislation beforn.


Posted by: Druid at December 08, 2010 04:35 PM (RnujI)

95

I'll give Clapton a pass because he's a neighbor and I might actually run into him some day.

Posted by: ErikW at December 08, 2010 08:23 PM (p9mrf)

He lives in Columbus, OH when in the US, right?

Posted by: Ombudsman at December 08, 2010 04:36 PM (c1oyg)

96 My DVD of "300" came today! Tonight! We Dine!! In Loincloths!!

Posted by: CoolCzech at December 08, 2010 04:36 PM (tJjm/)

97 @92 The "oldies" station (100.3) here in the DC area runs something like "Unplugged Sunrise" or some shit like that early on Sunday mornings. The only reason I know this is because the country station runs those fucked-up NPR-like interviews promoting weird causes at the same time. The unplugged stuff works in those extremely rare instances where actual musicians were involved, but most shit is just shit. This, too, will hopefully pass as soon as they catch up to "singers" who came into being at the same time as autotune.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 08, 2010 04:36 PM (xJVlJ)

98 He should have thought about that before he took to the stage extolling the great joys of being testicle-slapped on the chin. Speaking of which, coming up on the iPod, "Teenage Wildlife" Robert Fripp adds a mean solo.

Posted by: fluffy at December 08, 2010 04:37 PM (SwkdU)

99

76 -

Yes, its rampant here in West Texas. 

Posted by: I Agree at December 08, 2010 04:37 PM (CyPWX)

100
I've been on a Gerard Butler kick, lately.

I have ROCKNROLLA downloaded and waiting for me to watch it.

Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at December 08, 2010 04:38 PM (5iMvt)

101 McCartney? Hahahahahahahahahaha

Posted by: dr kill at December 08, 2010 04:38 PM (le5qc)

102
the guy on the radio today said McCartney was glad Lennon was dead so he could write his "silly love songs."

What's wrong with that?

Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at December 08, 2010 04:40 PM (/AACO)

103 Didn't Cobain blow his head off after doing an Unplugged concert on MTV and realizing he couldn't sing worth a damn?

Posted by: CoolCzech at December 08, 2010 04:41 PM (tJjm/)

104 Serious question:  Why is Collins so interested in DADT?

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 08, 2010 04:43 PM (ccPlf)

105 @107 If so, then that's a fad that needs to come back in a big way.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 08, 2010 04:43 PM (xJVlJ)

106
WINGS wasn't that good.

Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at December 08, 2010 04:43 PM (/AACO)

107 The House is voting on this steaming pile now.  Senate waiting until tomorrow? 

Posted by: sybilll at December 08, 2010 04:43 PM (DSBxM)

108 I've heard J. Lennon hired his own hit man because his wife was so ugly he couldn't go on.

Posted by: Ronster at December 08, 2010 04:44 PM (9q4PA)

109 Didn't Cobain blow his head off after doing an Unplugged concert on MTV and realizing he couldn't sing worth a damn? No, he remembered that he had left the seat up.

Posted by: Courtney Love at December 08, 2010 04:44 PM (SwkdU)

110

I dreampt that there were suicide bombers named Joe and Bob....and when I woke up they were named Mo...Mohammed *sigh*.

 

Posted by: Typical Duplicious DemocRAT at December 08, 2010 04:44 PM (mgH1T)

111 I liked Clapton until that dead horse, Layla, got beaten into dust as vanguard of the "unplugged" fad.

Who wouldn't like 5 overdubs of Duane Allman on the same song?

Posted by: toby928™ at December 08, 2010 04:45 PM (S5YRY)

112

He lives in Columbus, OH when in the US, right?

Posted by: Ombudsman at December 08, 2010 08:36 PM (c1oyg)

He lives with his wife in Worthington which is about 20 miles from here.

I've never met him myself but my friends who have met him tell me that he hangs out in a local Country Western karaoke bar on Rt. 23 north of Morse Rd.

Bizarre, huh?

 

Posted by: ErikW at December 08, 2010 04:45 PM (p9mrf)

113
Paul McCartney killed Buddy Holly and The Big Bopper and Richie Valens.

Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at December 08, 2010 04:46 PM (5iMvt)

114 the guy on the radio today said McCartney was glad Lennon was dead so he could write his "silly love songs."

What's wrong with that?

Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at December 08, 2010 08:40 PM (/AACO)

Lennon was a first-class anti-American douchebag who should have been exported with extreme prejudice.  That said, with the notable exceptions of Let It Be and Hey Jude, Lennon's songs stand up better (except, of course, for the insipid "Imagine", which sucks big ones) than McCartney's

Posted by: Ombudsman at December 08, 2010 04:46 PM (c1oyg)

115  Didn't Cobain blow his head off after doing an Unplugged concert on MTV and realizing he couldn't sing worth a damn?

Posted by: CoolCzech at December 08, 2010 08:41 PM (tJjm/)

Yeah, he definitely did us a favor.

Posted by: ErikW at December 08, 2010 04:48 PM (p9mrf)

116 112" I've heard J. Lennon hired his own hit man because his wife was so ugly he couldn't go on." One of the richest, most famous men in the world and the hottest Asian chick he could snare was freaking Yoko? Palmface

Posted by: CoolCzech at December 08, 2010 04:49 PM (tJjm/)

117

Lennon was indeed a piece of shit. But the Beatles made some great music.


Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at December 08, 2010 04:49 PM (/AACO)

118 Nah, it was because he realized his chick had passed on to him every STD known to medical science. His chick??!?!? I'm a serious musician!

Posted by: Courtney Love dares you to take everything at December 08, 2010 04:50 PM (SwkdU)

119

I've never met him myself but my friends who have met him tell me that he hangs out in a local Country Western karaoke bar on Rt. 23 north of Morse Rd.

Bizarre, huh?

 Posted by: ErikW at December 08, 2010 08:45 PM (p9mrf)

Can you imagine at the family reunion?  "This is my cousin Fred.  He's a plumber from Cleveland"..... "This is my brother Bob, he's a lawyer from Columbus"..."This is my husband Eric.  He's, um........)

Posted by: Ombudsman at December 08, 2010 04:50 PM (c1oyg)

120 This shit is so funny. All this talk made me go look at the Wikipedia entry for "Layla". Long story short: More hippies (George Harrison and Ringo Starr), wife-swapping, and the religion of shit. This makes total sense. And, as the cherry on top, "Wonderful Tonight" was written for the same slag. Animals.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 08, 2010 04:51 PM (xJVlJ)

121 But the Beatles made some great music.


Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at December 08, 2010 08:49 PM (/AACO)

Name one song.

Posted by: ErikW at December 08, 2010 04:52 PM (p9mrf)

122
the entire White Album is great music.

Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at December 08, 2010 04:53 PM (/AACO)

123 Name one song.

Taxman.

Posted by: toby928™ at December 08, 2010 04:53 PM (S5YRY)

124 Eleanor Rigby

Posted by: toby928™ at December 08, 2010 04:54 PM (S5YRY)

125 70 I now have a new favorite baseball player.  heh  Brave dude, whatever you think of his comments.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at December 08, 2010 08:16 PM (aUE7j)

He should be in prison by now.

Posted by: Typical Duplicious DemocRAT at December 08, 2010 04:55 PM (mgH1T)

126

Name one song.

Posted by: ErikW at December 08, 2010 08:52 PM (p9mrf)

Taxman?


Posted by: Iowa Bob at December 08, 2010 04:55 PM (kMBIN)

127
all the lonely people!

Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at December 08, 2010 04:55 PM (5iMvt)

128 Name one song.
USSR

Fuck the Beatles and fuck anyone that thinks their music was good.

Posted by: Barbarianez at December 08, 2010 04:55 PM (EL+OC)

129 While My Guitar Gently Weeps


Posted by: toby928™ at December 08, 2010 04:55 PM (S5YRY)

130 I was in college when the Beatles hit our shores. Never liked them or their music. I've busted off more than one radio knob trying to avoid their "music".

Posted by: Ronster at December 08, 2010 04:55 PM (9q4PA)

131
where dooooo they all belong?

Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at December 08, 2010 04:56 PM (5iMvt)

132 They were playing Imagine all day long today. Let's see: Imagine there's no America. Imagine global communism. Imagine nihilistic atheism. Imagine no values worth laying your life down for. THIS is the Left's idea of "idealism"? You be shitting me, bro!

Posted by: CoolCzech at December 08, 2010 04:56 PM (tJjm/)

133 @129 "Taxman" is the most beautiful metaphor for limousine liberal douchebagness. No matter how badly the shoe pinches on their foot, they never think for an instant that we lowly proles might have a problem with it, too.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 08, 2010 04:56 PM (xJVlJ)

134 Delta, did I miss your reaction to McDaniels getting fired?

Posted by: logprof at December 08, 2010 04:56 PM (BP6Z1)

135 the entire White Album is great music. I wouldn't go that far. There are a lot of great songs on there. The whole thing seems to be very self-indulgent. The result, I think was about 50% great songs, 50% WTF?!?

Posted by: fluffy, Beatles fan at December 08, 2010 04:56 PM (SwkdU)

136 Glass Onion

Posted by: the walrus was paul at December 08, 2010 04:57 PM (S5YRY)

137

Can you imagine at the family reunion?  "This is my cousin Fred.  He's a plumber from Cleveland"..... "This is my brother Bob, he's a lawyer from Columbus"..."This is my husband Eric.  He's, um........)

Posted by: Ombudsman at December 08, 2010 08:50 PM (c1oyg)

Seriously! I play guitar and I'm working on blues techniques and all that and I wold love to just even get a photo with Clapton but I know he's kinda hiding out here and I respect that.

Posted by: ErikW at December 08, 2010 04:57 PM (p9mrf)

138 Meh, the beatles were the first boy band

Posted by: robtr at December 08, 2010 04:58 PM (hVDig)

139

Well, I am busy taking macro photos of various parts of my bicycle with one hand whilst banning birthers and christianists via Droid with the other. Let's see you nazi creationists beat that.

Posted by: Charles "Chuckles" Johnson at December 08, 2010 08:20 PM (hrtAe)

Hey you bike-riding pinko, did you read what I said about you pussies?

Posted by: logprof at December 08, 2010 04:58 PM (BP6Z1)

140 While My Guitar Gently Weeps

Posted by: toby928™ at December 08, 2010 08:55 PM (S5YRY)

Thank Clapton for that

Posted by: Ombudsman at December 08, 2010 04:58 PM (c1oyg)

141
what's that song by that band that sounds just like the Beatles?


come on, you know the one

Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at December 08, 2010 04:58 PM (5iMvt)

142 As I've noted before, Eric Clapton is lazy.  I've seen him in concert just phoning it in.

When he was on SNL, GE Smith mocked his lazy effort in his first set by play Clapton songs, better, in the outs.

He actually worked the second set so the mocking worked.

Posted by: toby928™ at December 08, 2010 04:59 PM (S5YRY)

143 @150 My scrotum. . . Smith Corona. . .

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 08, 2010 05:00 PM (xJVlJ)

144

Name one song.

Sun King is very nice.

Posted by: Muppet Fart at December 08, 2010 05:01 PM (T0xuQ)

145 149 He is the "Slow Hand" right?

Posted by: steevy at December 08, 2010 05:01 PM (9zNs8)

146

Beatles! Libtard Fantasy Cubed.

Posted by: I Agree at December 08, 2010 05:01 PM (CyPWX)

147
Nevermind their lyrics, for a moment.

Listen to the music they created. They were doing shit with chords on the guitar that was unheard of.

And I don't give a shit about Hendrix or whoever. That's different.


Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at December 08, 2010 05:01 PM (/AACO)

148

Name one song.

Yellow Submarine. Now, that was the height of greatness.

Posted by: Ronster at December 08, 2010 05:01 PM (9q4PA)

149 Jeff Beck never phoned it in.

Posted by: toby928™ at December 08, 2010 05:01 PM (S5YRY)

150 Beatles songs are essentially TV/radio commercial jingles stretched to fill 45s.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 08, 2010 05:02 PM (xJVlJ)

151 @148: Walk Like an Egyptian?

Posted by: CoolCzech at December 08, 2010 05:02 PM (tJjm/)

152

Seriously! I play guitar and I'm working on blues techniques and all that and I wold love to just even get a photo with Clapton but I know he's kinda hiding out here and I respect that.

Posted by: ErikW at December 08, 2010 08:57 PM (p9mrf)

So do I, and the man is my only living musical idol.  Can't tell you how many times I've seen him.  His detractors need to know that he does the pop crap only to subsidize his blues work.

Posted by: Ombudsman at December 08, 2010 05:03 PM (c1oyg)

153 Jeff Beck never phoned it in. He is still kicking ass, even doing music that is contemporary.

Posted by: fluffy (Who Else?) at December 08, 2010 05:04 PM (SwkdU)

154 69 His music sucked, too.

Don't tell me...you're a metalhead, right?

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at December 08, 2010 08:16 PM (vbh31)

Yes!  And I also like George Strait , Joshua Bell and the late, great Rich Mullins.

Posted by: tangonine at December 08, 2010 05:04 PM (x3YFz)

155 The Carpenters had more depth than the Beatles. Oddly enough, the Carpenters are also only half the group they used to be.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 08, 2010 05:05 PM (xJVlJ)

156 Beatles songs are essentially TV/radio commercial jingles stretched to fill 45s. Yeah!

Posted by: Charlie Manson at December 08, 2010 05:05 PM (SwkdU)

157 159 @148: Walk Like an Egyptian?

The Bangles (US version) or the Hakim/Cleo (Egyptian version)?

Posted by: EZB at December 08, 2010 05:06 PM (fa9yq)

158 When he was on SNL, GE Smith mocked his lazy effort in his first set by play Clapton songs, better, in the outs.

He actually worked the second set so the mocking worked.

Posted by: toby928™ at December 08, 2010 08:59 PM (S5YRY)

Clapton is a generational icon. GE Smith can't get a cab at Penn Station.   Fuck him

Posted by: Ombudsman at December 08, 2010 05:06 PM (c1oyg)

159 Norwegian Wood. That's a good one.

Posted by: CoolCzech at December 08, 2010 05:07 PM (tJjm/)

160 @164 Helter Skelter, baby! How do you feel about how you're rotting in San Quentin while your ideological heir is squatting in the oval office?

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 08, 2010 05:07 PM (xJVlJ)

161 what's that song by that band that sounds just like the Beatles? Sowing the Seeds of Love by Tears for Fears? everything in the Oasis catalog?

Posted by: Charlie Manson at December 08, 2010 05:08 PM (SwkdU)

162

Saw Her Standing There.

 

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 08, 2010 05:09 PM (L3Wmw)

163 @167 So long as nobody mentions "Swedish 3-Iron," I'm good.

Posted by: Tiger Woods at December 08, 2010 05:09 PM (xJVlJ)

164 How do you feel about how you're rotting in San Quentin while your ideological heir is squatting in the oval office? Who do you think I was chatting to on my contraband cell phone?

Posted by: Charles Manson at December 08, 2010 05:10 PM (SwkdU)

165 Blue Suede Schubert.

Posted by: nickless© at December 08, 2010 05:10 PM (MMC8r)

166 godmutherfuckingdammitshitfuck! John and Ken just announced the thing passed 216-192 (I think those were the votes, will be looking official very soon) I really, really, REALLY hate our "elected officials"

Posted by: merc at December 08, 2010 05:11 PM (10fmu)

167 Oddly enough, the Carpenters are also only half the group they used to be. I was spreading myself a little thin.

Posted by: Zombie Karen Carpenter at December 08, 2010 05:11 PM (tJjm/)

168

what's that song by that band that sounds just like the Beatles?


Whip It?

Just like the Beatles

 

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 08, 2010 05:12 PM (L3Wmw)

169 @172 Dig it! First they killed those pigs and then they put a fork in pig Tate's belly. Wild!

Posted by: Bernardine Dohrn at December 08, 2010 05:13 PM (xJVlJ)

170
How do you feel about how you're rotting in San Quentin while your ideological heir is squatting in the oval office?

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 08, 2010 09:07 PM (xJVlJ)

Have you seen Manson lately?  The little piece of shit looks like my grandfather.

i think they should parole him.  He'd be killed in a week

Posted by: Ombudsman at December 08, 2010 05:13 PM (c1oyg)

171 The Mississippi Casinos get all  the old acts.  Check it out.

Posted by: toby928™ at December 08, 2010 05:14 PM (S5YRY)

172 "i think they should parole him. He'd be killed in a week" Retarded barry would give him a cabinet post.

Posted by: Bernardine Dohrn at December 08, 2010 05:14 PM (xJVlJ)

173
He'd be killed in a week.

or he'd be elected to state office in Minnesota.

Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at December 08, 2010 05:15 PM (/AACO)

174 That Mitch Ryder & the Detroit Wheels sure wrote some toe-tappers.

Posted by: nickless© at December 08, 2010 05:15 PM (MMC8r)

175 Clapton is a generational icon.

All I can tell you is I felt cheated after seeing him live.  Ian Anderson was a veritable volcano by comparison.

Posted by: toby928™ at December 08, 2010 05:16 PM (S5YRY)

176 183 Clapton is a generational icon.

All I can tell you is I felt cheated after seeing him live.  Ian Anderson was a veritable volcano by comparison.

Posted by: toby928™ at December 08, 2010 09:16 PM (S5YRY)

So is Hitler.

Posted by: tangonine at December 08, 2010 05:18 PM (x3YFz)

177

The 5th Dimension was the '60s group that sounded just like the Beatles.

Wedding Bell Blues

Just saying.

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 08, 2010 05:19 PM (L3Wmw)

178 Honey Piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiie!

Posted by: Herr Blücher at December 08, 2010 05:19 PM (hrtAe)

179 Norwegian Wood.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at December 08, 2010 05:19 PM (mHQ7T)

180 So the dems are going to try to give at least on more F U to America before their power is reduced. May they visit a UN camp in Haiti soon.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at December 08, 2010 05:20 PM (b75eT)

181 Did Wikileaks have anything to say on the "Overcharge" button? Or the DVD's, or the iPod? Just wondering if they are intentionally or unintentionally being fools.

Posted by: t-bird at December 08, 2010 05:20 PM (FcR7P)

182 @179 Ray Price is still doing shows? Thinking about it, though, all his Nashville Sound stuff was far enough from "Crazy Arms" that he's effectively been a lounge singer for over forty years.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 08, 2010 05:21 PM (xJVlJ)

183 Dream passed house. 8 Rino votes.

Posted by: C Monster at December 08, 2010 05:21 PM (C3jUi)

184 He'd be killed in a week.

or he'd be elected to state office in Minnesota.

Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at December 08, 2010 09:15 PM (/AACO)

I do think Krenwinkle and Van Houten could be released without threatening society.  They were just stupid, naive girls looking for a father figure when they fell under Manson's spell.  Susan Adkins just died, so that's a moot point. Tex Watson is allegedly born again in prison.  He deserves to rot for what he did.

Posted by: Ombudsman at December 08, 2010 05:21 PM (c1oyg)

185 My son is a professional musician and he once told me that the secret to getting the audience to have fun, was to seem to be having the time of your life yourself.  Like you'd do the gig for free just to soak up the vibes from the crowd.

Clapton looked like he'd be somewhere else if he wasn't getting paid.

Posted by: toby928™ at December 08, 2010 05:21 PM (S5YRY)

186

The Mississippi Casinos get all  the old acts

Did a quick scan. Recognized Pete Fountain and The Commodores. Most of them I've never heard of. That don't mean they're bad. It means I need to get out more.

Posted by: Ronster at December 08, 2010 05:21 PM (9q4PA)

187 Tree of liberty is lookin' mighty parched...

Posted by: Unclefacts, Confuse A Cat, Ltd. at December 08, 2010 05:22 PM (eCAn3)

188 All I can tell you is I felt cheated after seeing him live.  Ian Anderson was a veritable volcano by comparison.

Posted by: toby928™ at December 08, 2010 09:16 PM (S5YRY)

Clapton is a laid back bluesy guy, nothing more.

Did you expect Angus Young or something?

Posted by: ErikW at December 08, 2010 05:22 PM (p9mrf)

189 What?  You missed David Cassidy?

Posted by: toby928™ at December 08, 2010 05:23 PM (S5YRY)

190

Yes!  And I also like George Strait

You have good taste.

Posted by: jewells45 at December 08, 2010 05:23 PM (Z71Vg)

191 Clapton looked like he'd be somewhere else if he wasn't getting paid.

Posted by: toby928™ at December 08, 2010 09:21 PM (S5YRY)

 

I don' t know. I saw him at Hyde Park in London in the 90's it was a great concert

Posted by: robtr at December 08, 2010 05:23 PM (hVDig)

192 191 Dream passed house. 8 Rino votes.

Posted by: C Monster at December 08, 2010 09:21 PM (C3jUi)


Primary every last fuckin one of them.

Posted by: Unclefacts, Confuse A Cat, Ltd. at December 08, 2010 05:23 PM (eCAn3)

193 Hey, jewel.  What did you boss say?

Posted by: toby928™ at December 08, 2010 05:24 PM (S5YRY)

194 Oh, and SRV live > Clapton Live. Das all.

Posted by: Unclefacts, Confuse A Cat, Ltd. at December 08, 2010 05:24 PM (eCAn3)

195

When Oprah said she wasn't a lesbian, all the local lesbians breathed a sigh of relief.

All the gay guys got woodies.

Posted by: The Incredibly Boring Drone On Lake Wobegone Days at December 08, 2010 05:24 PM (mgH1T)

196 191 Dream passed house. 8 Rino votes.

Posted by: C Monster at December 08, 2010 09:21 PM (C3jUi)

Wonderful. Well, national sovereignty was overrated, anyway.

Posted by: Herr Blücher at December 08, 2010 05:24 PM (hrtAe)

197 No one has mentioned Pink Floyd yet? They had so many songs about ummm...errr...uuuhhh...just pass the bong will ya?

Posted by: htbtrdguppys at December 08, 2010 05:25 PM (HseOn)

198 "the entire White Album is great music. " er...NO No, it's not. It always sounded to me like a collection of b-sides and crappy out-takes. Now Abbey Road is a good album - continuity man, con-tin-uity. Also great playing and production, a very cohesive and well recorded record, and the side two "suite"? I listen to that bit all the time, and always seem to hear something I missed the previous time. But overall, buck the featles, especially Lennon.

Posted by: merc at December 08, 2010 05:25 PM (10fmu)

199 Clapton looked like he'd be somewhere else if he wasn't getting paid.

Posted by: toby928™ at December 08, 2010 09:21 PM (S5YRY)

Think about the thousands - thousands! - of shows the guy has done.  He's not gonna play on his back and spit blood...

Posted by: Ombudsman at December 08, 2010 05:25 PM (c1oyg)

200 What's with the Mom Does $5 Tricks ad?

Posted by: Zombie Karen Carpenter at December 08, 2010 05:25 PM (tJjm/)

201 I don' t know. I saw him at Hyde Park in London in the 90's it was a great concert

Hmm.  I saw him at the bad show in the late 70's and thought that maybe he just got old, but if he had vigor in the 90's maybe he knew I was there and was just fucking with me.

I take things personally.

Posted by: toby928™ at December 08, 2010 05:26 PM (S5YRY)

202 Think about the thousands - thousands! - of shows the guy has done. He's not gonna play on his back and spit blood. Why the fuck not?

Posted by: Iggy Pop at December 08, 2010 05:26 PM (SwkdU)

203

Posted by: toby928™ at December 08, 2010 09:24 PM (S5YRY)

Well I impressed him by telling I did research at home last night.  He was impressed. lol.

Seriously.. I went online and found a few websites and sent the links to the guy in Holland and just said, is this what you fucking want, you fucking fuck?

Posted by: jewells45 at December 08, 2010 05:27 PM (Z71Vg)

204 Think about the thousands - thousands! - of shows the guy has done.  He's not gonna play on his back and spit blood...

Fifty years of geetar-pickin' can take it out of you.

Posted by: nickless© at December 08, 2010 05:28 PM (MMC8r)

205

The House has approved the DREAM Act by a vote of 216-198. Voting mostly was along party lines.

Eight Republicans broke from the rest of the party to vote in favor of the legislation. Thirty-eight Democrats broke party lines to vote against the act.



Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 08, 2010 05:28 PM (yea0z)

206 No one has mentioned Pink Floyd yet? They had so many songs about ummm...errr...uuuhhh...just pass the bong will ya?

Posted by: htbtrdguppys at December 08, 2010 09:25 PM (HseOn)

Never got the Floyd.  Then again, I was sober

Posted by: Ombudsman at December 08, 2010 05:28 PM (c1oyg)

207 I take things personally.

Posted by: toby928™ at December 08, 2010 09:26 PM (S5YRY)

Hmmm he did say something about that fucking toby isn't here tonight. I didn't know what he was talking about.

Posted by: robtr at December 08, 2010 05:28 PM (hVDig)

208 Well I impressed him by telling I did research at home last night.

Well, your question made me go and get the OpenVPN appliance software and install it on my home box.  Then I spent an hour at work making a couple of PC's in my office connect to the home network.

I had fun, so thanks.

Posted by: toby928™ at December 08, 2010 05:29 PM (S5YRY)

209 That fucking Collins.  Drive through Maine, the campaign signs say, "Susan Collins, Our Senator." 

She must have until 2014, right?

Posted by: Frank-Zappa-sez-eat-yur-beans at December 08, 2010 05:29 PM (4sQwu)

210 Am I the only one who thinks the DREAM Act is ten times worse than ObamaCare, which itself reeked of death?

Posted by: The Mega Indepedent at December 08, 2010 05:29 PM (5I0Yr)

211 The more that completely unjust laws like this one get passed the more I feel like a decent German citizen in 1933.  What country do I cheer for?

Posted by: CrustyB at December 08, 2010 05:31 PM (qzgbP)

212

I had fun, so thanks.

Glad someone is having fun with it.

Posted by: jewells45 at December 08, 2010 05:33 PM (Z71Vg)

213

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at December 08, 2010 09:29 PM (vbh31)

Check out AC/DC Live at Donington on YouTube or whatever.

It's pretty badass!

Posted by: ErikW at December 08, 2010 05:33 PM (p9mrf)

214 Far as I'm concerned, the dream act is  an act of war, perpetrated by our own Congress upon the sovereignty of this country.

Posted by: Unclefacts, Confuse A Cat, Ltd. at December 08, 2010 05:33 PM (eCAn3)

215 Drive through Maine, the campaign signs say, "Susan Collins, Our Senator." 

I know a Democrat would be worse, votewise, but dammit, Rinos taint the brand.

I hate them.

Posted by: toby928™ at December 08, 2010 05:34 PM (S5YRY)

216 #205 Their better albums were too dark to get regular airplay, just whatever the stoners liked. Animals is a fucking brilliant album- you will never hear Dogs or Pigs or Sheep get airplay. Wish You Were Here's Have a Cigar and Welcome to the Machine are good. the middle of The Wall (up to the awful Vera) is good.

Posted by: CAC at December 08, 2010 05:34 PM (lV4Fs)

217 OK, time for a fight.  If Clapton isn't  THE preeminent rock guitarist - based on technical proficiency, longevity, and body of work - who is?

Posted by: Ombudsman at December 08, 2010 05:34 PM (c1oyg)

218

When the imprisoned Chinese dissident got a Nobel Prize, Prezident B+rry suggested he be released to go get his prize and then go back to his imprisonment in China for the rest of his miserable life...or else his wife gets a bullet in the back of her skull and her kidneys harvested for rich western drunkards money. It's a compromise, you see.

Posted by: The Incredibly Boring Drone On Lake Wobegone Days at December 08, 2010 05:34 PM (mgH1T)

219 @219 No hyperbole here: DREAM, if signed into law, is the death of this country. We will not recover from the instant legitimization of the 20+ million illegals in this country. Their liberation theology/social justice core values are not compatible with the foundations of this country.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 08, 2010 05:34 PM (xJVlJ)

220 Posted by: Frank-Zappa-sez-eat-yur-beans at December 08, 2010 09:29 PM (4sQwu) Shaddap and play yer guitar.

Posted by: Adrian Belew at December 08, 2010 05:34 PM (SwkdU)

221 Someone tell me again, when are shitheel fucking RINOS like the Maine whores supposed to vote with us again?

anyone?

Posted by: Unclefacts, Confuse A Cat, Ltd. at December 08, 2010 05:35 PM (eCAn3)

222 Glad someone is having fun with it.

Mrs928 thinks I'm crazy because I work on IT shit all day, and come home and install and uninstall software and harddware on my home rigs.

I try to explain that computers are my HO Railroad set.  Plenty of people spend all their time on the model trains, I just do it with bits.

Posted by: toby928™ at December 08, 2010 05:36 PM (S5YRY)

223 OK, time for a fight. If Clapton isn't THE preeminent rock guitarist - based on technical proficiency, longevity, and body of work - who is? Why do you want to fight, Mate? I've already been mentioned, and besides, I like Eric. Did you know I like American muscle cars?

Posted by: Jeff Beck at December 08, 2010 05:37 PM (SwkdU)

224 Old Blue Oyster Cult (before Don't fear the Reaper) is quite good.

Posted by: Druid at December 08, 2010 05:37 PM (RnujI)

225 Fuck

Don Cherry sockpuppet FAIL

Posted by: logprof at December 08, 2010 05:38 PM (BP6Z1)

226 Why do you want to fight, Mate? I've already been mentioned, and besides, I like Eric.

Did you know I like American muscle cars?

Posted by: Jeff Beck at December 08, 2010 09:37 PM (SwkdU)

Beck is the old weird uncle in the attic.

Posted by: Ombudsman at December 08, 2010 05:38 PM (c1oyg)

227 DREAM Act is treason - legitimizing an alien invasion.

Posted by: Druid at December 08, 2010 05:38 PM (RnujI)

228 Animals is a fucking brilliant album- you will never hear Dogs or Pigs or Sheep get airplay. They get some late night airplay around Boston.

Posted by: Les Claypool at December 08, 2010 05:39 PM (SwkdU)

229 btw..why is anyone surprised the Dream Act passed the House? Democrats still control it by 255 votes. The Senate is the final stand for DREAM, and again, if the tax deal fails to go through first, its a dead duck anyway. I have actually more confidence in the Democrats like Manchin, Tester, Nelson and Webb stopping DREAM but then arbitrarily raising the issue again next year when moot (but to give them Dem cover) than to vote for it now.

Posted by: CAC at December 08, 2010 05:39 PM (lV4Fs)

230 230 Well,we need RINOS to control the committees.That's the argument right?

Posted by: steevy at December 08, 2010 05:39 PM (9zNs8)

231 OK, time for a fight.  If Clapton isn't  THE preeminent rock guitarist - based on technical proficiency, longevity, and body of work - who is?

Posted by: Ombudsman at December 08, 2010 09:34 PM (c1oyg)

Wait for it, Jimi Hendrix.

Posted by: ErikW at December 08, 2010 05:40 PM (p9mrf)

232 You fucks want some money? I'll show you money as soon as I get these presses from wrinkling the shit!

Posted by: Timmy Geitner at December 08, 2010 05:40 PM (mgH1T)

233 @233 RE: "Don't Fear the Reaper" http://youtube.com/watch?v=9i5ZK0PSDyA ". . . so we can find out who the faggots are."

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 08, 2010 05:40 PM (xJVlJ)

234 241 "Longevity" rules out Jimi.He did some revolutionary shit though.

Posted by: steevy at December 08, 2010 05:41 PM (9zNs8)

235 At this point it is going to LITERALLY take torches and pitchforks for these assholes to get it.  WTF???  Jesus, I just want to go to bed now and weep for my country.

Posted by: jewells45 at December 08, 2010 05:41 PM (Z71Vg)

236 243 I love that movie.Peppermint Schnappster!!!

Posted by: steevy at December 08, 2010 05:41 PM (9zNs8)

237

Best guitarist?

Stevie Ray Vaughan

..just think what could have been..

Posted by: torabora at December 08, 2010 05:42 PM (mgH1T)

238 243 @233

RE: "Don't Fear the Reaper"

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9i5ZK0PSDyA

". . . so we can find out who the faggots are." Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT


BEFORE that.

Posted by: Druid at December 08, 2010 05:42 PM (RnujI)

239

Wait for it, Jimi Hendrix.

Posted by: ErikW at December 08, 2010 09:40 PM (p9mrf)

I'm a big Hendrix fan too, but considering the difference in length of career, gotta give the nod to Clapton

Posted by: Ombudsman at December 08, 2010 05:42 PM (c1oyg)

240 K, time for a fight. If Clapton isn't THE preeminent rock guitarist - based on technical proficiency, longevity, and body of work - who is? Posted by: Ombudsman at December 08, 2010 09:34 PM ------------------------------------------------------------ Why Jeff Beck of course.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at December 08, 2010 05:42 PM (yQWNf)

241

The Nightmare has passed? Can the Repubs stall that bad boy in the Senate until the changeover? I thought nothing was getting voted on until the tax deal and the continuing resolution was passed. What happened to that?

 

Posted by: Meremortal at December 08, 2010 05:42 PM (5dhnu)

242 How is it that I heard on the news on the way home in the car that this piece of traitorous shit passed in the House?  Drudge doesn't have that.  Did I just hear it wrong?

Posted by: Peaches at December 08, 2010 05:42 PM (zxpIo)

243 Hey, Delbert McClinton's playing the Hard Rock next August.  I haven't seen him since '77 or so.

Roadtrip!

Posted by: toby928™ at December 08, 2010 05:43 PM (S5YRY)

244 251 Supposedly it was expected to pass the House but not the Senate.

Posted by: steevy at December 08, 2010 05:43 PM (9zNs8)

245 Hey! Maybe the tax deal is a dead duck! Markets crash! Kratos wins!

Posted by: torabora at December 08, 2010 05:43 PM (mgH1T)

246 Robert Fripp adds a mean solo.
Posted by: fluffy

Exposure(the screaming part) is my ring tone. It gets attention.

Posted by: sTevo at December 08, 2010 05:43 PM (VMcEw)

247 This is the lame duck thread. When will the ONT be in session?

Posted by: arhooley, conflicted Californian at December 08, 2010 05:43 PM (eYY8A)

248

Best guitarist?

Stevie Ray Vaughan

..just think what could have been..

Posted by: torabora at December 08, 2010 09:42 PM (mgH1T)

He might be my #1, except for the short career. The man was a genius.  Such a shame

Posted by: Ombudsman at December 08, 2010 05:44 PM (c1oyg)

249 Please oh please, tell me there is no way in hell this DREAM act passes the Senate tomorrow.  I could puke.

Posted by: sybilll at December 08, 2010 05:44 PM (DSBxM)

250 Stevie never phoned it in either.

Posted by: toby928™ at December 08, 2010 05:44 PM (S5YRY)

251 The Nightmare has passed?

Which nightmare? The DREAM Act? The tax deal? (whose nightmare?) HALP

Posted by: arhooley, conflicted Californian at December 08, 2010 05:44 PM (eYY8A)

252 House passed the DREAM act. Hrmmm... So the left is trying to fill the military with gays and illegal aliens. Destroy the military by turning into another bloated govt agency full of leftists who have no allegiance to America. That'as the agenda. Bullets and beans. Stock up now. Bad times are coming. Well... worse times.

Posted by: Chicago Jedi at December 08, 2010 05:45 PM (WZFkG)

253 @248 I saw that you said, "BEFORE." I was just pleased to find the scene was out on the youtube. I saw BOC live about ten or twelve years ago at a dive bar walking distance from my house. They're still actively touring.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 08, 2010 05:45 PM (xJVlJ)

254 Exposure(the screaming part) is my ring tone. It gets attention. Hahaha!! Sing it, Terry!

Posted by: fluffy at December 08, 2010 05:46 PM (SwkdU)

255 Please oh please, tell me there is no way in hell this DREAM act passes the Senate tomorrow.  I could puke.

Holy shit. Another one to repeal.

Posted by: arhooley, conflicted Californian at December 08, 2010 05:46 PM (eYY8A)

256 They get some late night airplay around Boston. Posted by: Les Claypool at December 08, 2010 09:39 PM (SwkdU) I requested it once from a rock station out here. I asked them to play DOGS. They said "its too long". Ok, so what about PIGS? "we don't have one where FUCK is bleeped out" (it appears ONCE in the song) Ok, what about SHEEP? "Oh that is too dark." This is here in Los Angeles, what the fuck?

Posted by: CAC at December 08, 2010 05:46 PM (lV4Fs)

257 Why Jeff Beck of course.
Posted by: Truck Monkey

Be honest with yourself. He only has two records of original work, and half are covers.

Posted by: sTevo at December 08, 2010 05:47 PM (VMcEw)

258

The USA has been on a slow slide to mediocracy for awhile. Sometimes I'm glad I won't live long enough to see the the final blow, then I think of my daughter and all those younger that will have to see this once great country go down the shitter. It's sad. Really sad.

Posted by: Ronster at December 08, 2010 05:47 PM (9q4PA)

259 Did we think the DREAM Act wasn't going to get shoved up our collective asses? These pieces of shit have carte blanche until they're sent home.

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 08, 2010 05:48 PM (RWtqz)

260

Holy shit. Another one to repeal.

It won't get repealed if it passes.

Posted by: jewells45 at December 08, 2010 05:48 PM (Z71Vg)

261 How is it that I heard on the news on the way home in the car that this piece of traitorous shit passed in the House?  Drudge doesn't have that.  Did I just hear it wrong?
Posted by: Peaches at December 08, 2010 09:42 PM

I heard the same thing, and I can't access Drudge at the moment.

Hannity is yammering about something -- probably as a warmup for bringing in the Newt -- and I can't find a source that confirms. TepidAir has some lead post by an idiot from the Groan Room who seems to be upset at DeMint for not supporting the tax reduction/unemployment because he wants the lower rates to last longer and not increase the deficit.

Guess I'll have to go check C-Span.

If this is true, I think we're getting to a point where we need to do something to end the reign of the corrupt, treasonous jerks who are in charge in D.C. Don't know what we can do, but they have killed the country if they let amnesty pass.

Posted by: MrScribbler© at December 08, 2010 05:48 PM (Ulu3i)

262 The DREAM Act: 85% of illegals won't even be draftable -- physical, educational, whatever requirements won't be met. So they'll go for the education. It will be Spanish-language joke made-for-DREAM Hispanic Studies bullshit where everyone gets an automatic pass. BULLSHIT.

How soon can this bastard be repealed?

Posted by: arhooley, conflicted Californian at December 08, 2010 05:49 PM (eYY8A)

263 226 OK, time for a fight. If Clapton isn't THE preeminent rock guitarist - based on technical proficiency, longevity, and body of work - who is?

Posted by: Ombudsman at December 08, 2010 09:34 PM (c1oyg)

Buddy Guy.

Posted by: Herr Blücher at December 08, 2010 05:49 PM (hrtAe)

264 Let's just conquer Mexico and be done with it.

Posted by: toby928™ at December 08, 2010 05:49 PM (S5YRY)

265 No way this thing passes the Senate.  Those fuckers have seen the cut of our jib.  I just do not believe it will happen. 

Posted by: Peaches at December 08, 2010 05:49 PM (zxpIo)

266 Jeb Bush should be beaten like a pinata.

Posted by: steevy at December 08, 2010 05:50 PM (9zNs8)

267 233 RE: "Don't Fear the Reaper" 40,000 Men and Women Everyday! We can be like they are!

Posted by: CoolCzech at December 08, 2010 05:50 PM (tJjm/)

268 Ok. SRV was quite the guitarist but like Hendrix his tenure was too short. There is a mean ax swinger out of LA by the name of Charles Johnson who I heard was quite a talent.

Posted by: Arleschay Onsonjay at December 08, 2010 05:50 PM (yQWNf)

269 Jeb Bush should be beaten like a pinata.

Indeed, he's dead to me now.

Posted by: toby928™ at December 08, 2010 05:50 PM (S5YRY)

270 "Bullets and beans. Stock up now. Bad times are coming. Well... worse times." Fuck that. The beans waste valuable space better used for my bullet hoard. I know where I'm "shopping" for beans. I mapped every house within walking distance that had Gerry Connolly signs in the yard. As for pork, I'm getting pretty good with the smoker, and my smoker can handle the longer bones.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 08, 2010 05:51 PM (xJVlJ)

271 Last time I heard Reaper, some guy with Captain Trips was running from Blue Base.

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 08, 2010 05:51 PM (RWtqz)

272

It won't get repealed if it passes.

Posted by: jewells45 at December 08, 2010 09:48 PM

Absolutely. And as for 2012, forget it now. The new Democrat citizen/voters from south of the border will ensure that the treasonous swine remain in office as long as they like.

Posted by: MrScribbler© at December 08, 2010 05:51 PM (Ulu3i)

273 No way this thing passes the Senate.  Those fuckers have seen the cut of our jib.  I just do not believe it will happen.

I have a sinking feeling. This is exactly where we were last Christmas.

Posted by: arhooley, conflicted Californian at December 08, 2010 05:51 PM (eYY8A)

274 Be honest with yourself. He only has two records of original work, and half are covers. You need to get out more. I own at least eight. Blow By Blow is chock full o' covers, but that is just one album.

Posted by: fluffy at December 08, 2010 05:51 PM (SwkdU)

275 I am too angry to post the names of the 8 rat bastard R's that voted for this.  Malkin has it. 

Posted by: sybilll at December 08, 2010 05:51 PM (DSBxM)

276

K, time for a fight. If Clapton isn't THE preeminent rock guitarist - based on technical proficiency, longevity, and body of work - who is?
Posted by: Ombudsman at December 08, 2010 09:34 PM
++++++++++++++++

It will be a silly fight, as there is nothing to fight about. There is no preeminent rock guitarist now, and that is as it should be. There have been and still are many incredible rock players, each with a style unique to the player. To put them in a competition is a false premise, and completely subjective.

Oh, I know, you're just screwing around. So am I. 

There once was a preeminent rock guitarist (yes, him). It wasn't long before there was a horde of contenders and pretenders.   

 

Posted by: Meremortal at December 08, 2010 05:52 PM (5dhnu)

277 OK, time for a fight. If Clapton isn't THE preeminent rock guitarist - based on technical proficiency, longevity, and body of work - who is?

Posted by: Ombudsman at December 08, 2010 09:34 PM (c1oyg)

Buddy Guy.

Posted by: Herr Blücher at December 08, 2010 09:49 PM (hrtAe)

I saw Buddy last month.  The man is on top of his game at 73, and the show, while short, was excellent.

Posted by: Ombudsman at December 08, 2010 05:52 PM (c1oyg)

278 Jeb Bush should be beaten like a pinata.


Don't tell me he supports the Nightmare act. On the other hand, do tell me. If he does, I'll feel relieved to scratch him off my list FOREVER.

Posted by: arhooley, conflicted Californian at December 08, 2010 05:52 PM (eYY8A)

279 276 Let's just conquer Mexico and be done with it.

Posted by: toby928™ at December 08, 2010 09:49 PM (S5YRY)

Wouldn't that be like leaving my comfy apartment to do a home invasion robbery on some homeless crackhead living in a flat screen box?

Posted by: Peaches at December 08, 2010 05:53 PM (zxpIo)

280 Let's just conquer Mexico and be done with it.
Posted by: toby928™ at December 08, 2010 09:49 PM

Mexico just conquered us.

Nappy Napolitano will soon have absolute power to determine who gets to stay and who must go. Any questions on what she'll do?

Posted by: MrScribbler© at December 08, 2010 05:53 PM (Ulu3i)

281

I'm a big Hendrix fan too, but considering the difference in length of career, gotta give the nod to Clapton

Posted by: Ombudsman at December 08, 2010 09:42 PM (c1oyg)

Um, actually, I think Hendrix sucks but oh well.

Posted by: ErikW at December 08, 2010 05:53 PM (p9mrf)

282 277 No way this thing passes the Senate. Those fuckers have seen the cut of our jib. I just do not believe it will happen. Posted by: Peaches at December 08, 2010 09:49 PM (zxpIo) I think you're right, Peaches. But it's just testimony to what fascistic pigs the Liberals are that they would seek to pass such drastic legislation against the will of the American people even as they head out the damned door. Fuck them. And not in a good way.

Posted by: CoolCzech at December 08, 2010 05:53 PM (tJjm/)

283

Here's your list of the asshole Rs that voted for it:

Cao

Castle (shame that asshole didn't make it to the Sentae, huh?)

Diaz-Balart, L.

Diaz-Balart, M

Djou

Ehlers

Inglis

Ros-Lehtinen

 

I swear, I feel like going to SC just to kick Inglis' ass.

Posted by: Steph at December 08, 2010 05:54 PM (kOSds)

284 290 Jeb Bush should be beaten like a pinata. Don't tell me he supports the Nightmare act. On the other hand, do tell me. If he does, I'll feel relieved to scratch him off my list FOREVER. Posted by: arhooley, conflicted Californian at December 08, 2010 09:52 PM (eYY8A) He sure sounded like he was, on Fox & Friends the other day. Looked annoyed as hell for being asked, too.

Posted by: CoolCzech at December 08, 2010 05:54 PM (tJjm/)

285 265 @248

I saw that you said, "BEFORE." I was just pleased to find the scene was out on the youtube.

I saw BOC live about ten or twelve years ago at a dive bar walking distance from my house. They're still actively touring.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 08, 2010 09:45 PM (xJVlJ)


Don't Fear the Reaper got me hooked, Then I found that their earlier shiite was the real good shiite.

Posted by: Druid at December 08, 2010 05:55 PM (RnujI)

286 why is anyone surprised the Dream Act passed the House? Democrats still control it by 255 votes.
Posted by: CAC

It passed 216-198. 38 Dems went with the Republicans, while 8 Reps went maverick and 11 didn't even bother to vote.

This one was winnable in the House.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 08, 2010 05:55 PM (yea0z)

287 I'm waiting to see what Dick Morris has to say about this. Then I'll know the opposite will happen.

Posted by: Barbarianez at December 08, 2010 05:56 PM (EL+OC)

288 Don't worry, folks! Those Blue Dog Democrats will never pass ObamaCare without making sure it doesn't fund abortion!!!

Posted by: Bart Stupak at December 08, 2010 05:57 PM (5I0Yr)

289

Here's your list of the asshole Rs that voted for it:

Castle



Just for emphasis.....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 08, 2010 05:57 PM (yea0z)

290 301 I'm waiting to see what Dick Morris has to say about this. Then I'll know the opposite will happen. Posted by: Barbarianez at December 08, 2010 09:56 PM (EL+OC) As soon as he gets the hooker's toe unstuck from between his teeth, I'm sure he'll tell you.

Posted by: CoolCzech at December 08, 2010 05:58 PM (tJjm/)

291

299 I agree.  I don't know with whom I will be more angry, the 8 rat bastards, or the 11 who did not vote at all. 

Posted by: sybilll at December 08, 2010 05:58 PM (DSBxM)

292 303 Please!You will reactivate Drew and ace and the "purity" brigade.

Posted by: steevy at December 08, 2010 05:58 PM (9zNs8)

293 Let's just conquer Mexico and be done with it.

We didn't cross the border. The border crossed us.

Posted by: American troops greeting Tijuanans at December 08, 2010 05:58 PM (eYY8A)

294 Y'all see that cool interview with the Orioles dude that Drudge has up?  Good stuff!

Posted by: Peaches at December 08, 2010 05:59 PM (zxpIo)

295

Posted by: Ombudsman at December 08, 2010 09:42 PM (c1oyg)

Um, actually, I think Hendrix sucks but oh well.

Posted by: ErikW at December 08, 2010 09:53 PM (p9mrf)

He was a trend-setter.  There are albums that stretched the envelope, and his were some.  His albums kicked the can down the road to what we have now

Posted by: Ombudsman at December 08, 2010 05:59 PM (c1oyg)

296 304 LOL

Posted by: steevy at December 08, 2010 05:59 PM (9zNs8)

297 Hey,  guess the identity of one of the 8 Republicans who voted for the Dream Act!

MIKE CASTLE

What a great guy.

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 08, 2010 05:59 PM (Fo83G)

298 Yayyyyyy Mike Fucking Castle!!!! We can always count on you to be on our side an important percentage of the time!

Posted by: Moderate I'll-Sell-My-Soul Republican at December 08, 2010 05:59 PM (5I0Yr)

299

I have had more than my share of the Bush family.  Frankly, I would just prefer never to hear from a Bush, again.  Never.

Amen to that.

Posted by: jewells45 at December 08, 2010 06:00 PM (Z71Vg)

300
306 303 Please!You will reactivate Drew and ace and the "purity" brigade. Posted by: steevy



Like in "Candyman"?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 08, 2010 06:00 PM (yea0z)

301 Now playing: Psycho Sam from Jeff Beck's 1999 release, Who Else!

Posted by: fluffy's iPod at December 08, 2010 06:00 PM (SwkdU)

302 Hendrix did alot of stuff not to my taste.That he introduced some revolutionary ideas and techniques is unarguable.

Posted by: steevy at December 08, 2010 06:01 PM (9zNs8)

303

 Y'all see that cool interview with the Orioles dude that Drudge has up?  Good stuff!

LUKE SCOTT my new baseball hero.

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 08, 2010 06:01 PM (RWtqz)

304 Assholes (R) who decided not to vote:

Bilbray
Blunt
Buyer
Fallin
Gingrey (GA)
Granger
Griffith
Marchant
McMorris Rodgers
Radanovich
Stutzman

Posted by: Herr Blücher at December 08, 2010 06:01 PM (hrtAe)

305 Castle voted for the DREAM act. As bad as COD was can we all agree this bullshit about having a RINO who sometimes votes with us is bullshit? Cause sometimes equals rarely. And never when it counts. Better to get a conservative message out and lose then have the GOP be seen as the same Nazi filth as the Dems because of "class acts" like Castle.

Posted by: Chicago Jedi at December 08, 2010 06:01 PM (WZFkG)

306 314 Exactly.More horrifying.

Posted by: steevy at December 08, 2010 06:01 PM (9zNs8)

307

I have had more than my share of the Bush family.  Frankly, I would just prefer never to hear from a Bush, again.  Never.

Amen to that.

Posted by: jewells45 at December 08, 2010 10:00 PM (Z71Vg)

Tragedy is, Jeb is the best of the bunch.  By far.

Posted by: Ombudsman at December 08, 2010 06:01 PM (c1oyg)

308 No More Bush's, beat it Jeb we've done 'ad enough of yer types round here I reckon. 

Posted by: Sock Puppet 5000 at December 08, 2010 06:02 PM (W58PC)

309 Yayyyyyy Mike Fucking Castle!!!! We can always count on you to be on our side an important percentage of the time!

Posted by: Moderate I'll-Sell-My-Soul Republican at December 08, 2010 09:59 PM (5I0Yr)

Oh now come on, would you rather have a republican vote on amnesty or one of those commie dems?  Besides castle votes with us on post office names 100%!

Posted by: robtr at December 08, 2010 06:02 PM (hVDig)

310 That piece of shit Castle voted against his own interests. If his cabana boy, Javier, gets citizenship, I'm sure he'll be charging at least minimum wage for the reach-arounds.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 08, 2010 06:03 PM (xJVlJ)

311 318 Assholes (R) who decided not to vote:

Bilbray
Blunt
Buyer
Fallin
Gingrey (GA)
Granger
Griffith
Marchant
McMorris Rodgers
Radanovich
Stutzman

I don't see how they can do this.  That's like me going to work and saying, oh, I don't really feel like doing my job, I'm just gonna sit here and collect my salary.  Huh??  Cockholsters.

Posted by: Peaches at December 08, 2010 06:04 PM (zxpIo)

312 Bloody hell.  Politicians just never fail to disappoint do they?

Posted by: jewells45 at December 08, 2010 06:04 PM (Z71Vg)

313

Helloooooo.....

Can the Repubs spike the DREAMmare act in the Senate?

Posted by: Meremortal at December 08, 2010 06:05 PM (5dhnu)

314 Like in "Candyman"?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 08, 2010 10:00 PM (yea0z)

Purging purists...

Purging purists...

...

Eh, I guess I'm pussying out. Far too exasperated tonight for that shit.

Posted by: Herr Blücher at December 08, 2010 06:05 PM (hrtAe)

315 I'm really tired of the Bushes shitting on Repubs to curry favor with the left.

Hey dumbasses: You could exhume Reagan's corpse and piss on it, but the left will still hate you.  Just STFD & STFU.  Or DIAF.

Posted by: butch at December 08, 2010 06:05 PM (RMiT+)

316 8 + 11... so I count 19 Democrats in the House with R's after their names. Does that still give us a majority in the 112th?

Posted by: The Mega Independent at December 08, 2010 06:06 PM (5I0Yr)

317 Can the Repubs spike the DREAMmare act in the Senate?

The question is: will they?

Posted by: American troops greeting Tijuanans at December 08, 2010 06:06 PM (eYY8A)

318 Assholes (R) who decided not to vote:

Stutzman

Posted by: Herr Bl


Stutzman won a special election, so he was sworn in on Nov 16th.  Way to start off, rookie.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 08, 2010 06:07 PM (yea0z)

319

He was a trend-setter.  There are albums that stretched the envelope, and his were some.  His albums kicked the can down the road to what we have now

Posted by: Ombudsman at December 08, 2010 09:59 PM (c1oyg)

How? I don't hear anything that resembles that.

Loose funky guitar sounds fine in coffee shops but I don't see it.

Not that I don't want to, it just ain't here.

Posted by: ErikW at December 08, 2010 06:08 PM (p9mrf)

320 331 Can the Repubs spike the DREAMmare act in the Senate?

The question is: will they?
 That's the next question.

Posted by: Meremortal at December 08, 2010 06:09 PM (5dhnu)

321

Stutzman won a special election, so he was sworn in on Nov 16th.  Way to start off, rookie.

Jesus.  I'd be flooding that dickheads office tomorrow with phone calls and emails.  Then letters.  Good Christ.  It's like pissing against the wind.

Posted by: jewells45 at December 08, 2010 06:09 PM (Z71Vg)

322

This effing bunch is going to make an alky out of me.   I hardly ever drank before the last 2 years.   Only on special occasions.   Now, every time I turn around I want/need a damn drink.

I hate those commie bastards!

Posted by: Steph at December 08, 2010 06:10 PM (kOSds)

323 319 Castle voted for the DREAM act. As bad as COD was can we all agree this bullshit about having a RINO who sometimes votes with us is bullshit? Cause sometimes equals rarely. And never when it counts. Better to get a conservative message out and lose then have the GOP be seen as the same Nazi filth as the Dems because of "class acts" like Castle.

Castle's got sour grapes. Get real/
 

Posted by: Barbarianez at December 08, 2010 06:10 PM (EL+OC)

324 Assholes (R) who decided not to vote:

Radanovich


Radanovich didn't run for relection and retired.  Guess he's got better things to do.



Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 08, 2010 06:10 PM (yea0z)

325 289

I saw Buddy last month. The man is on top of his game at 73, and the show, while short, was excellent.

Posted by: Ombudsman at December 08, 2010 09:52 PM (c1oyg)

I've only seen him once, eons ago, during a blues festival headlined by B.B. King. Eric Johnson (one of my favorite guitarists) was among the musicians to play a set as well. Buddy, though, definitely stole the show.

Posted by: Herr Blücher at December 08, 2010 06:11 PM (hrtAe)

326 Hey,  guess the identity of one of the 8 Republicans who voted for the Dream Act!

MIKE CASTLE

What a great guy.
Posted by: Miss Marple

Gee, there's a surprise.

Posted by: Blue Hen at December 08, 2010 06:11 PM (1O93r)

327 The question is: will they?

Oh hell no.

Posted by: Barbarianez at December 08, 2010 06:11 PM (EL+OC)

328 Just think, you almost had me in the Senate! Losers. I coulda been a contenda.

Posted by: Mike Castle at December 08, 2010 06:12 PM (5dhnu)

329

It's like pissing against the wind.

Yes it is, isn't it. Funny how people think we can still win at the ballot box.

Posted by: USS Diversity at December 08, 2010 06:12 PM (RWtqz)

330 On the bright side, moron(ette)s, Cap & Trade can't be far behind...

Posted by: The Mega Independent at December 08, 2010 06:12 PM (5I0Yr)

331 Thanks for nothing, Delaware!

Posted by: Mike "I'll Show You a Democrat" Castle at December 08, 2010 06:13 PM (mHQ7T)

332 148
 BadFinger?

Posted by: TotalBS at December 08, 2010 06:14 PM (CyPWX)

333 Castle's got sour grapes. Get real/
 
Posted by: Barbarianez

A. Gee, that's wonderfully mature behavior from the only viable candidate from Delaware.
B. This is the same asshole that voted for Cap and trade and then defended the vote in the Weekly Standard the day before his primary. The one that he lost.

Get real.

Posted by: Blue Hen at December 08, 2010 06:14 PM (1O93r)

334 Assholes (R) who decided not to vote:

McMorris Rodgers


OK, McMorris Rodgers gets a pass.  She just had a baby on Dec 1st.



Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 08, 2010 06:14 PM (yea0z)

335 Just think, you almost had me in the Senate! 

Posted by: Mike Castle at December 08, 2010 10:12 PM (5dhnu)

Coons is happy to cast his vote with his Democrat majority.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at December 08, 2010 06:15 PM (mHQ7T)

336 Get real.

Posted by: Blue Hen at December 08, 2010 10:14 PM (1O93r)

Yeah, but... uhhhhhh... his percentage!!!!

Posted by: The Mega Independent at December 08, 2010 06:16 PM (5I0Yr)

337 "I have had more than my share of the Bush family. " A little bush goes a long way.

Posted by: cali grump at December 08, 2010 06:17 PM (hL0k8)

338 OK, McMorris Rodgers gets a pass.  She just had a baby on Dec 1st.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 08, 2010 10:14 PM (yea0z)

That was a whole week ago.  Loafer.

Posted by: Tami at December 08, 2010 06:18 PM (VuLos)

339 Get real.

Posted by: Blue Hen at December 08, 2010 10:14 PM (1O93r)


I doubt if he would vote for Hillary- like someone else...


Posted by: Barbarianez at December 08, 2010 06:18 PM (EL+OC)

340 #337

So Castle,  because he is pissed he lost an election,  decided to stick it to the entire country?  And this is what...an excuse?

If it's sour grapes,  he is a self-centered, selfish person who should never have been in office.

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 08, 2010 06:18 PM (Fo83G)

341 OK, McMorris Rodgers gets a pass.  She just had a baby on Dec 1st.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 08, 2010 10:14 PM (yea0z)

Fuck that.   It's been a week.   They have breast feeding stations in the chamber.  

 

 

I'm almost not kidding.

Posted by: Steph at December 08, 2010 06:18 PM (kOSds)

342 347 148
 BadFinger?

Posted by: TotalBS at December 08, 2010 10:14 PM (CyPWX)

They were my first guess too.

Knickerbockers were first, but they were one-hit wonders. Badfinger got a movie score.

Posted by: Mike Castle at December 08, 2010 06:18 PM (5dhnu)

343 Tonight's vote has given me renewed confidence for January, 2011. Yay!!! That's the way to shake up the House, Republicans!!!

Posted by: The Mega Independent at December 08, 2010 06:18 PM (5I0Yr)

344 How? I don't hear anything that resembles that.

Loose funky guitar sounds fine in coffee shops but I don't see it.

Not that I don't want to, it just ain't here.

Posted by: ErikW at December 08, 2010 10:08 PM (p9mrf)

Don't get me wrong, I  don't disagree.  Some of the stuff of the era might just as well have come from the 1700's,  based on its relevance.  The influence on other musicians is what matters

Posted by: Ombudsman at December 08, 2010 06:19 PM (c1oyg)

345 What's the point of busting your ass to get those bastards elected?    Damn.

Posted by: Steph at December 08, 2010 06:20 PM (kOSds)

346 #359  Most of the ones elected,  Steph,  aren't there yet.  This is the OLD,  democrat-controlled Congress.   They are doing slash and burn as they leave.


Posted by: Miss Marple at December 08, 2010 06:23 PM (Fo83G)

347 349

Coons is happy to cast his vote with his Democrat majority.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at December 08, 2010 10:15 PM (mHQ7T)

I would have been ever so much more fun than Coonsie. The drama, the cliffhanging, the vote buying, the waffling, the backstabbing! Coonsie is boring and predictable.

 

Posted by: Mike Castle at December 08, 2010 06:23 PM (5dhnu)

348

Coons is happy to cast his vote with his Democrat majority.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane

And apparently Mike Castle is achieving orgasm casting his vote with the Democratic majority.

Time to go clean him off tattoo. And that is your fantasy island.

Posted by: Blue Hen at December 08, 2010 06:28 PM (1O93r)

349 I don't care what state they are from. If any Republican in the Senate votes for the Dream AMNESTY ACT I say primary them. I don't care what it means for the general. If we have republicans voting for amnesty, then it is over for us. There is no point in voting, or donating, or do anything. They are voting for a bill that will end their own party as it is supplying the dems with millions of new automatic voters who will just vote for more free money from the rest of us. SO WHY SHOULD WE TOLERATE THEM?

Posted by: Dan at December 08, 2010 06:28 PM (1jzSs)

350 Posted by: Barbarianez at December 08, 2010 10:10 PM (EL+OC) Castle conspired with the Nazis before the primary. And being bitter isn't an ethical motive for voting on matters of national importance. This serious flaw in Castle's character has existed all along. Primary or not he needed to go. ///\\\\IT JUST GOT REAL //\\\

Posted by: Chicago Jedi at December 08, 2010 06:29 PM (WZFkG)

351

I would have been ever so much more fun than Coonsie. The drama, the cliffhanging, the vote buying, the waffling, the backstabbing! Coonsie is boring and predictable.

 

Posted by: Mike Castle at December 08, 2010 10:23 PM (5dhnu)

Mike, you know Delaware voters. They voted for Coons and Biden before him. There was no vote buying.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at December 08, 2010 06:30 PM (mHQ7T)

352 Get real.

Posted by: Blue Hen at December 08, 2010 10:14 PM (1O93r)


I doubt if he would vote for Hillary- like someone else...

Posted by: Barbarianez


You think that he did this out of sour grapes, but you doubt that he'd vote for Hilary!?! I'm from the same fucking state as him and I don't know why he voted for this piece of shit.

Posted by: Blue Hen at December 08, 2010 06:30 PM (1O93r)

353 Mike Castle voted for it. He would have made a great senator! BARF

Posted by: Dan at December 08, 2010 06:31 PM (1jzSs)

354
If we have republicans voting for amnesty, then it is over for us. There is no point in voting, or donating, or do anything. They are voting for a bill that will end their own party as it is supplying the dems with millions of new automatic voters who will just vote for more free money from the rest of us. SO WHY SHOULD WE TOLERATE THEM?

Posted by: Dan at December 08, 2010 10:28 PM (1jzSs)


I believe.. RICHARD LUGAR.. f'ing R from Indiana actually wrote the freakin dream act.

Indiana... get that ass out  in '12.

Posted by: Just another pissed off voter at December 08, 2010 06:32 PM (ph9vn)

355

I would have been ever so much more fun than Coonsie. The drama, the cliffhanging, the vote buying, the waffling, the backstabbing! Coonsie is boring and predictable.

Posted by: Mike Castle



So, how are you going to vote on DADT, as if we didn't know....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 08, 2010 06:33 PM (yea0z)

356 And apparently Mike Castle is achieving orgasm casting his vote with the Democratic majority. Time to go clean him off tattoo.

Posted by: Blue Hen at December 08, 2010 10:28 PM (1O93r)

To hear O'Donnell's lunatic supporters tell it, the "unmanly" septuagenarian with a weak heart could only get it up for young men. If only Castle was an openly gay man with a lisp. Your gay-baiting taunts would write themselves.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at December 08, 2010 06:36 PM (mHQ7T)

357 So, how are you going to vote on DADT, as if we didn't know....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 08, 2010 10:33 PM (yea0z)

Like that.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at December 08, 2010 06:37 PM (mHQ7T)

358 Your gay-baiting taunts would write themselves.

Castle's too old for you.

Posted by: By Jove, you're right! at December 08, 2010 06:40 PM (S5YRY)

359 If we have republicans voting for amnesty, then it is over for us.




Well, about half of the Reps voting aye aren't coming back for the next Congress, so they're pitching a hissy as they're dragged off stage,

More worrisome are the half that voted aye out of racial solidarity, and the number of Reps from Texas and California who didn't show up so they could dodge the issue. These folks will never be safe votes on anything race related in the new house.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 08, 2010 06:41 PM (yea0z)

360 And apparently Mike Castle is achieving orgasm casting his vote with the Democratic majority. Time to go clean him off tattoo.

Posted by: Blue Hen at December 08, 2010 10:28 PM (1O93r)

To hear O'Donnell's lunatic supporters tell it, the "unmanly" septuagenarian with a weak heart could only get it up for young men. If only Castle was an openly gay man with a lisp. Your gay-baiting taunts would write themselves.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane

Try defending the crap you wrote instead of hiding behind her. You want to pretend that Castle voting like Coons is somehow better than Coons voting like Coons? Lie to yourself all you want. It's still a disgrace. Delaware has a big illegal alien problem. Voting for an amnesty won't help that.

Posted by: Blue Hen at December 08, 2010 06:41 PM (1O93r)

361 Your gay-baiting taunts would write themselves.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane




Sorry, Mike Castle doesn't like you in that way.  He likes you as a friend.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 08, 2010 06:43 PM (yea0z)

362 I am proud of Nicky Pelosi for her stance to help the working people of the USA. What has any Republi-idiot done to help fix Bush's problems. Well I am waiting !!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Mary Cloggerstien from Brattleboro, VT at December 08, 2010 06:53 PM (zVOB7)

363

Breakdown by Allahpundit:

The 8 illegal alien bailout Republicans are:

Joe Cao (defeated in general election)
Mike Castle (defeated in primary)
Lincoln Diaz-Balart (retiring)
Charles Djou (defeated in general election)
Vern Ehlers (retiring)
Bob Inglis (defeated in primary)

Ileana Ros-Lehtinen
Mario Diaz-Balart



"From hell's heart, I spit at thee...."

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 08, 2010 06:56 PM (yea0z)

364

Vern Ehlers (retiring)

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 08, 2010 10:56 PM (yea0z)

F me sideways, thats was my rep!  Thanks Vern u pos!  As a 'scientist' he was all about the GW scam too. 

Posted by: Flammenwerfer at December 08, 2010 07:35 PM (FIDMq)

365 No wonder fuckhead Rove was spooging so much over Castle for Senate; people in Delaware would've thought they were voting for another term of the dumbest cocksucker ever to crawl out of Scranton.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 08, 2010 08:09 PM (ccPlf)

366

Coons is happy to cast his vote with his Democrat majority.

So is Castle. And every other dickbag "Republican" who votes with the Dems on all important votes.

Posted by: Muppet Fart at December 08, 2010 08:57 PM (T0xuQ)

367

@226: "OK, time for a fight. If Clapton isn't THE preeminent rock guitarist - based on technical proficiency, longevity, and body of work - who is?"

Nigel Tufnel.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at December 08, 2010 09:53 PM (rXOK3)

368

@282: "I'm getting pretty good with the smoker, and my smoker can handle the longer bones."

I've got a long bone for your smoker....

Posted by: Barney Frank at December 08, 2010 09:55 PM (rXOK3)

369

@351: "A little bush goes a long way."

GOP needs to go Brazilian.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at December 08, 2010 10:20 PM (rXOK3)

370 So, if you were a Chinese student who wanted to go to the US for school, you should now come via Mexico without any visa. That way when you graduate, you also get citizenship. The immigrants are smart - wait for this to become the new way to come to America. Much faster than a green card and legally - that's for suckers!

Posted by: sexypig at December 09, 2010 12:08 AM (TEgcf)

371 Pitchforks...

Torches...

Mobs of angry, offal-throwing peasants...

These clowns...

...some ass'y required...

Posted by: backhoe at December 09, 2010 02:12 AM (0bk6W)

372 Tommy Emmanuel
Thas all.

Posted by: RedneknSC at December 09, 2010 05:25 AM (AR+tO)

373 So is Castle.

NOW he is. If Republicans held the Senate, Castle would have worked to impress the REPUBLICAN base and voted with his party. But here he is in the Democrat lame duck House voting the way Delaware constituents want him to vote. These are the same voters who preferred Coons to O'Donnell. The tea party blew it here, and the people who wanted purity or nothing got nothing. All this bitching is just pathetic.  

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at December 09, 2010 05:26 AM (mHQ7T)

374 Try defending the crap you wrote instead of hiding behind her.

But it had everything to do with COD. Although she sued a conservative group and had not only no political record but also a terrible personal one and came out and endorsed Hillary, supporting her became a litmus test for how pure you really were as a conservative. She was nuts, a proven loser and full of shit about her little talking points. She didn't even understand the office she was running for, the issues she would vote on and was clearly in it for money. Yet Castle was somehow worse. Someone in a blue state is expected to be a moderate; but someone with Castle's career can be reliably pragmatic, as well. You were told by everyone but the blowhards like Levin and COD's boyfriend Hannity that this would end badly. But that bimbo was worth it for you.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at December 09, 2010 05:36 AM (mHQ7T)

375 395 "took" the Senate... which was doable at one point.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at December 09, 2010 05:39 AM (mHQ7T)

376 NOW he is. If Republicans held the Senate, Castle would have worked to impress the REPUBLICAN base and voted with his party. But here he is in the Democrat lame duck House voting the way Delaware constituents want him to vote. These are the same voters who preferred Coons to O'Donnell. The tea party blew it here, and the people who wanted purity or nothing got nothing. All this bitching is just pathetic.  

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane

 

What utter bullshit.

1. The Republicans weren't "holding the Senate". They were in the minority. They still are.

2. "But here he is in the Democrat lame duck House voting the way Delaware constituents want him to vote"

Cite the source proving this. I'm not aware of a majority in Delaware demanding amnesty.

3. Castle would have worked to impress the REPUBLICAN base and voted with his party.

Prove it. Otherwise, this is at best a guess or wishful thinking, or at worst, another lie to back the choice that you made. You want to keep bitching about the Tea Party? That's your choice. Making up lies and fanciful tales about the awesomeness and anguish of Mike Castle isn't impressing anyone here.

Posted by: Blue Hen at December 09, 2010 05:41 AM (R2fpr)

377 Yet Castle was somehow worse. Someone in a blue state is expected to be a moderate; but someone with Castle's career can be reliably pragmatic, as well. You were told by everyone but the blowhards like Levin and COD's boyfriend Hannity that this would end badly. But that bimbo was worth it for you.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane

 

More lies and evasions.

Why did Castle decide to defend a cap and trade vote the day before the primary? The 'bimbo' forced him to do it?

Why couldn't he be bothered to campaign here? Did Hannity kidnap him?

It's easier to continue to vent about the 'bimbo' than it is to dissect Castles' primary campaign. Perhaps its because the results would undermine the conclusion about how wonderful, moderate, pragmatic and new-and-improved he is.

Since you don't like the peasants revolting, then tell the idiot running the state party to either get their annointed choice off of his ass and on the campaign trail, or do away with primaries and just continue with the annointing.

That would save money and we wouldn't have to deal with liars such as you.

Posted by: Blue Hen at December 09, 2010 05:47 AM (R2fpr)

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