October 27, 2010

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— Gabriel Malor

Don't forget the foreign-policy geniuses Obama brought with him to Washington.

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Days away...

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 03:08 AM | Comments (181)
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1 With only 37% approval rating, it would seem to be amongst this 37% that Pew reports more enthusiasm for an Obama re-election than Reagan had at midterm. But evidently Democrats who disapprove of Obama's performance are enthusiastic to re-elect him.

Posted by: Beto at October 27, 2010 03:14 AM (H+LJc)

2 From what I've seen so far, this has happened. Two police officers fired for being members of their local Tea Party in Texas.. http://texasfred.net/archives/8000 http://t.co/j3tbQX2

Posted by: Dave C at October 27, 2010 03:14 AM (B/hA3)

3 Hell, did the sorry SOB bring anyone who wasn't either a hard core commie or a total incompetent with him?

This is the worst administration I have seen in my entire life. Not the most harm, yet, but the worst.

Posted by: Vic at October 27, 2010 03:14 AM (/jbAw)

4 Sweet Jebus, that reset button was the silliest and most demeaning "gift" one diplomat ever gave another. The whole administration is nothing but clowns and buffoons.

Posted by: Craig at October 27, 2010 03:16 AM (xP8Aq)

5 "Reset" overcharged

This past week a headline linked to an official complaint Russian intelligence has lodged against the US diplomats and military in Afghanistan. Russia provided the US with coordinates for 117 heroin laboratories in Kabul. The US fails to comment, fails to destroy the laboratories, and protects the poppy fields.

Posted by: maverick muse at October 27, 2010 03:21 AM (H+LJc)

6 Rand Paul supporter "reset" the chiropractic backside of an opponent who slipped and fell with a protest sign "Republicorp".  She lost her blonde wig, and claims he stomped her head located between her shoulders.

Posted by: maverick muse at October 27, 2010 03:25 AM (H+LJc)

7 Dave C?
http://t.co/j3tbQX2
http://tinyurl.com/2a8dmom

Posted by: maverick muse at October 27, 2010 03:29 AM (H+LJc)

8 If the GOP doesn't begin by attempting to repeal ObamaCare they will be boned as well. I don't believe this election will provide the required 'stimulus'. These national GOPers are really cynical. They have seen these waves before and survived. Can the pressure be sustained another ten years? Doubtful. I'm cynical too.

Posted by: White women with college degrees at October 27, 2010 03:34 AM (WAxE/)

9 You don't, Office Depot.  You keep your mouth shut and make another political donation, if you know what's good for you.

Posted by: Steve Skubinna at October 27, 2010 03:51 AM (QQ9sc)

10 Hey, that reset button was stolen from our red button commercials.  Who do we sue?

Office Depot sales are down significantly since that incident.
Just sayin'

Posted by: Beto at October 27, 2010 03:53 AM (j5CHE)

11 Has anyone photoshopped and Obama picture onto a Reset Button (or bumper sticker with a Reset Logo) yet? If not, looks like a job for our more technically gifted Morons.

Posted by: RigghtWingProf at October 27, 2010 03:55 AM (UOcNk)

12 It's been quite some time since a man pushed Hillary's button(s).

Posted by: Fritz at October 27, 2010 03:56 AM (GwPRU)

13 Is it just me, or does Hillary look more and more aged, broken down, disheveled, and just plain worn out? Look, wrangling State cookie-pushers is no fun, but neither Condi nor Gen. Powell looked rode hard and put up wet after their stints. Madelyne Albright ALWAYS looked awful, so there's no real comparison there, but I don't remember any other Sec State looking so poorly.

Posted by: moki at October 27, 2010 03:58 AM (dZmFh)

14 Anyone catch the finger the Russian is using to push the "reset" button?

Also, I agree, Hillary does look poorly these days- akin to Warren Christopher.

Posted by: Museisluse at October 27, 2010 04:01 AM (DTfXb)

15 If the GOP doesn't begin by attempting to repeal ObamaCare they will be boned as well.
  Posted by: White women with college degrees
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I think you expect too much of a Republican House with a likely slight Dem majority Senate.

There's no "repealing" anything with Obama still in the White House.  The best they can do is try to not fund it.. but most of it doesn't kick in until 2014 anyway.

2012 has to be the next goal.. kick Obama out and retake both houses of Congress and then repeal this crap.

What they have to do in the next 2 years is do whatever they need to do to improve the economy.. settle the tax issues.. defeat any new regulatory crap being forced on businesses.. if.. if the economy turns around, the GOP will get the credit.. and that will help with the 2012 goal.

Posted by: ChiTown Jerry at October 27, 2010 04:03 AM (Do528)

16 Looking at all the papers this morning there really isn't much out there in the way of news.

Yeah, the 9th court in a 3 judge panel ruled that AZ can't demand proof of citizenship to register to vote, something the courts have upheld in the past, but that's the 9th. I guess the new strategy for the libs is to bankrupt AZ in legal costs.  Too bad there is no way to recover costs from the incompetent and biased judges personally.

The other thing I found disappointing was from the last Gov debate last night. The two candidates discussed the new I-73 corridor to Myrtle Beach from NC. They only differed on how it would get paid for. Sheehan wants to make it a toll road, Haley doesn't. I am opposed to all toll roads but that is not the problem.

The problem is that this road is totally worthless for the State of SC. It only benefits Myrtle Beach and NC (in the South). It doesn't connect ANY of the population centers in SC and it runs just inside the SC border by a narrow margin in its route to the beach. For all practicle purposes it is a NC road but SC will have to pay for a substantial portion of the cost. I throw the BS flag. Run it all in NC and cut us out of it altogether.



Posted by: Vic at October 27, 2010 04:03 AM (/jbAw)

17 16-in Central European culture, it really doesn't mean anything. I think the middle finger and thumb are joined when making the sign of the cross in the Russian Orthodox church, (at least, that's how my grandmother did it, and she was ferociously R.O.) and my dad always pointed with his middle finger. I used to yell at him for it, and he couldn't understand why I was so upset. (Of course, it's always possible he was just mocking me too.)

Posted by: moki at October 27, 2010 04:10 AM (dZmFh)

18

We have no geniuses in Washington, D.C.

Also, seeing what fools have come out of the Ivy-league schools these past several years I'd say they are coasting on reputation.  Save your money, send the kids somewhere that provides a real education.

Posted by: Case at October 27, 2010 04:12 AM (s07P2)

19 Hey, that reset button was stolen from our red button commercials.  Who do we sue? -- Posted by: Office Depot

Your commercials stole that red button from the Cold War Oval Office. Pay up or Obama will serve you for breakfast.

Posted by: POTUS JOINT CHIEFS at October 27, 2010 04:13 AM (H+LJc)

20 In related news, Pelosi's commie San Francisco Giants to experience the wave, starting tonight, by those stalwarts of conservatism, the Texas Rangers.  Be the wave Rangers.

Posted by: dogfish at October 27, 2010 04:15 AM (7imdb)

21 If Arizona wants to survive, it needs its own Federal District Court, and axe the 9th from AZ. As if McCain could care less.

Posted by: maverick muse at October 27, 2010 04:15 AM (H+LJc)

22 If you connect my back freckles, it says 'Harry Reid is the Anti-Christ.'

Posted by: Randy Quaid at October 27, 2010 04:16 AM (MMC8r)

23 moki
I had a professor from Northwestern who ALWAYS pointed with the middle finger. Chicago habit?

Posted by: maverick muse at October 27, 2010 04:17 AM (H+LJc)

24 There's no "repealing" anything with Obama still in the White House.  The best they can do is try to not fund it.. but most of it doesn't kick in until 2014 anyway.

He did say attempt to repeal - Republicans in the house *should* vote to repeal Obamacare within a few months (standard Winston Wolf boilerplate inserted).

Politically, this would force Democrats  to make the most unpopular vote of their careers all over again.  And do we need 60 in the Senate to repeal?  Nope.  We just need 51 for reconciliation.  Granted, that probably won't happen, but it will make a handy attack against congressional Dems who claim they are independent from Barry.

And when it gets to Barry's desk, we really can't lose.  He will have to veto a bill with popular support.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 27, 2010 04:17 AM (FkKjr)

25 OK here is something from the WSJ; ready for some more "boning"?

Fed Gears Up for Stimulus

The central bank is likely to unveil a program of U.S. Treasury bond purchases worth a few hundred billion dollars over several months, a measured approach in contrast to purchases of nearly $2 trillion it unveiled during the financial crisis.

http://tinyurl.com/2urcbyz

I'll bet you thought congress would have to approve more "stimulus" hahahahaha.

This is another job for the upcoming Republican congress. They are going to have to find some way to either reign in the fed or revoke its existence.

I go for the latter.


Posted by: Vic at October 27, 2010 04:19 AM (/jbAw)

26 Randy Quaid at October 27, 2010 08:16 AM

The Hollywood Star Whackers are onto you.

/so that's what debt collectors are called these days...

Posted by: maverick muse at October 27, 2010 04:21 AM (H+LJc)

27

For all practicle purposes it is a NC road but SC will have to pay for a substantial portion of the cost. I throw the BS flag. Run it all in NC and cut us out of it altogether.



Posted by: Vic at October 27, 2010 08:03 AM (/jbAw)

There are Indian burial grounds, Indiana bats and snail darters in that part of NC. Don't you know nothing?

Posted by: Ed Anger at October 27, 2010 04:22 AM (7+pP9)

28 26- MM-maybe-although my dad was originally from Pennsylvania (Donora area. He became a naturalized Texan after marrying my mom.) But considering the Polish community in Chicago, and the Russian/Croat/Serb population in the Monongahela area, it's possible that the use of the middle finger for pointing is a Central European habit. I know, let's get a grant to study this!!!!! Surely it's worth a few hundred thousand to settle this question!

Posted by: moki at October 27, 2010 04:23 AM (dZmFh)

29 Since the Congress will be unable to override any Obama veto, all attempts at repeal will be purely symbolic. I do hope they go through the motions (and set the groundwork for real repeal after 2012) but they have to concentrate their real efforts on things they can actually accomplish in the next two years. Slamming the brakes on the czars/regulatory agencies would be a nice start. With just the House and no Senate, a nice long "holding pattern" may be the best the Repubs can hope for.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 27, 2010 04:24 AM (V/C0X)

30 Good morning, Morons. May Lady Prosperity cup your junk in her loving hands.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 27, 2010 04:25 AM (ssbB6)

31 I remember US Bonds being bought and sold at elementary school.

The central bank is likely to unveil a program of U.S. Treasury bond purchases

The Federal Reserve has already ruined us, as if things couldn't get worse letting them stick around as they are.

Posted by: maverick muse at October 27, 2010 04:25 AM (H+LJc)

32

If Arizona wants to survive, it needs its own Federal District Court, and axe the 9th from AZ. As if McCain could care less.

Posted by: maverick muse at October 27, 2010 08:15 AM (H+LJc)

Three or four years ago there was talk about creating a new district. IIRC it would have involved splitting up the 9th. Any morons remember?

Posted by: Ed Anger at October 27, 2010 04:27 AM (7+pP9)

33 Where's Greg? Toomey is up +7 and +5 in lefty polls which means it's double that.

Posted by: dagny at October 27, 2010 04:29 AM (9F0fL)

34 splitting up the 9th. Any morons remember?
Posted by: Ed Anger

Aside from a Republican party-of-no "holding pattern" with a House Majority, it isn't as if there aren't important matters to accomplish, like dashing the 9th.

Posted by: maverick muse at October 27, 2010 04:30 AM (H+LJc)

35 Sharon Angle's campaign took in $137,000 additional dollars after Behar's comment. Thanks Joy, you scrunt.

Posted by: dagny at October 27, 2010 04:31 AM (9F0fL)

36 The GOP needs to stop funding alot of crap.  Whole departments need to be cut off.

Posted by: Case at October 27, 2010 04:33 AM (0K+Kw)

37 Dagny, I missed it.  What did that waste of air and space, Behar, say about Angle?

Posted by: Tami at October 27, 2010 04:34 AM (VuLos)

38 37-Good for Sharon. Did any of the other women on the View even try to stop Behag? You would think Barbara Walters would say something-it is HER show, but she acts like she is scared of Behar, since she lets her continue in this disgusting behavior. I honestly do not understand libs.

Posted by: moki at October 27, 2010 04:35 AM (dZmFh)

39 This election, however monumental it may be, is only the beginning. We have got to keep winning these elections and have a true conservative majority FROM NOW ON. Tall order, I know, but there is no choice. And in the 2012 election I hope we can primary Collins, Snowe, Goober Graham and the rest of the intransigent/collaborationist RINO bloc. An encouraging bit of news I heard Levin quote (I know, but give me a break) was that if the entire Senate were up for election, instead of just the 1/3 or so seats, we would win a filibuster-proof and veto-proof majority. So, the majority of Americans seemingly are with us. The Republicans better not let us down in the next 2 years or else they will become a minority third party and the Tea Party movement will be in the ascendancy. VOTE. VOLUNTEER. V I C T O R Y

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 27, 2010 04:37 AM (9Cooa)

40 The Obamas donÂ’t seem to think most Americans can control themselves or know whatÂ’s good for them. Rather, they view Americans as children in need of instruction, close monitoring, behavior modification, and punishment if they rebel. In short, the American people need a mother.

Blood pressure : dangerously high

I don't give a rat's ass about whether or not the Gov. trusts me with my body! Screw trust! It is none of their damn business if I eat myself into a coma.
We are free or not free and if the Gov. can involve itself in the minutia of my daily life then I am a slave. Screw you Michele and your fat ass and screw NRO for making the weak mewling argument about trust.

Posted by: kidney at October 27, 2010 04:45 AM (ENRGu)

41 If nationality is ruled illegal to confirm voter registration, then why date of birth? And what gives with the excuse that birthdate is not required though it's on the voter registration form and mail-in ballot form? And if your name and personal information are on the ballot, why the hell submit THAT form for your secret ballot?

Possible glitch with vote-by-mail system

Carter and others who contacted the I-Team are furious that their vote may also be thrown out because the IDCC put the registered voters' wrong birthdate on the form. "My birthdate is wrong," said Carter. "That means it doesn't match the election board of commissioners' records."

IDCC I-Team blames the falsified information on the vendor, and places the responsibility to correct the error on the voters themselves in order for that "glitch" to work out.

"Trust" the system that
rather than providing the return address of an Election Official, directs the voter to mail the ballot to a P.O. Box that has no way of properly directing regional mail to the appropriate district.




Posted by: maverick muse at October 27, 2010 04:45 AM (H+LJc)

42 39 OMG, She called her a bitch then said "she is going to hell, this bitch". Behar is an ugly crazy scrunt but in her venom she made money for angle. Heh. I think HA has a thread on it and you can google it, it was everywhere yesterday.

Posted by: dagny at October 27, 2010 04:46 AM (9F0fL)

43 You would think Barbara Walters would say something-it is HER show, but she acts like she is scared of Behar, since she lets her continue in this disgusting behavior.

moki
Walters lets Behar say what Walters won't say herself.

Posted by: maverick muse at October 27, 2010 04:48 AM (H+LJc)

44 I only caught the headline that Behar referenced "moveon.org" as a reasonable nonpartisan source.

Posted by: maverick muse at October 27, 2010 04:49 AM (H+LJc)

45 I'm paranoid to think that the dems manufacture instances of voter "disenfranchisment" so that they can get a judge to allow fraud later. BTW, these people could still go vote at the polls on election day, they haven't been disenfranchised.

Posted by: dagny at October 27, 2010 04:49 AM (9F0fL)

46 I think HA has a thread on it and you can google it, it was everywhere yesterday.

Posted by: dagny at October 27, 2010 08:46 AM (9F0fL)

Thanks...I'll take your description of it instead of looking for video.  I can't stand to look or listen to that scrunt.

Posted by: Tami at October 27, 2010 04:50 AM (VuLos)

47 Behar is currently performing the same function that the scrunt O'Donnel did, that of outspoken agent provocateur.

She makes outlandish statements to stir up ratings.

Posted by: Vic at October 27, 2010 04:52 AM (/jbAw)

48 Posted by: dagny

BTW, these people could still go vote at the polls on election day, they haven't been disenfranchised.

In a sane and legal setting, we'd assume that. But given the fraud from election officials, you go again to vote because of the malfunction your first try, and they'll say that you can't vote twice, even though your first attempt was thwarted.

Posted by: maverick muse at October 27, 2010 04:52 AM (H+LJc)

49 Vic at October 27, 2010 08:52 AM

scrunt O'D?

Posted by: maverick muse at October 27, 2010 04:53 AM (H+LJc)

50 34

If Arizona wants to survive, it needs its own Federal District Court, and axe the 9th from AZ. As if McCain could care less.Posted by: maverick muse at October 27, 2010 08:15 AM (H+LJc) Three or four years ago there was talk about creating a new district. IIRC it would have involved splitting up the 9th. Any morons remember?
Arizona has its own District--the court that recently ruled against it on its border enforcement law.  For appellate purposes, it is part of the Ninth Circuit--along with CA and most of the Pacific west.  Arizona isn't big enough to have its own Circuit--but CA is, and there  has been talk of splitting CA out of the Ninth, which would give AZ, NV OR and WA their own Circuit.  So far though, only talk. 

Posted by: Billy Batts at October 27, 2010 04:53 AM (K/USr)

51 scrunt O'D?

Posted by: maverick muse at October 27, 2010 08:53 AM (H+LJc)

Rosie O'D.

Posted by: Tami at October 27, 2010 04:54 AM (VuLos)

52 scrunt O'D?

Posted by: maverick muse at October 27, 2010 08:53 AM (H+LJc)

Rosie

Posted by: Vic at October 27, 2010 04:55 AM (/jbAw)

53 There's no "repealing" anything with Obama still in the White House. The best they can do is try to not fund it.. but most of it doesn't kick in until 2014 anyway. 1: The republicans (Most of the ones reelected) owe it to use to repeal it from their days of spending under W (I like the man but facts are facts. Spending and growth of gov. happened under him when it shouldn't of). 2: Make more Dems stand on their unpopular vote again. 3: If it does go through the Senate, Obama will veto it. But it's sending a message too. By the veto, he's keeping it an issue so a challenger from the GOP can run on it in 2012.

Posted by: Dave C at October 27, 2010 04:55 AM (o78dI)

54 Former Governor Pete duPont just came out and endorsed Christine O'Donnell. I wonder what that's about.

Posted by: dagny at October 27, 2010 04:56 AM (9F0fL)

55 I would add, I think AZ's problems with the Socialist States of America go way beyond which Circuit court hears federal appeals.  Our socialist federal government is in a full but so far non-shooting war against AZ.  While the other 49 states stand by sucking their thumbs passively.

Posted by: Billy Batts at October 27, 2010 04:56 AM (K/USr)

56 If SEIU is gonna cheat in Arizona already, you would think the stupid sons of cheap street whores would have the brains not to get caught 5 minutes after the polls open.

Posted by: maddogg at October 27, 2010 04:56 AM (OlN4e)

57 This is a bit disturbing, although not unexpected.

ANALYSIS / Iran's unlikely understanding with Saudi Arabia.

Iran and Saudi Arabia are working together to divide up their sphere of influence in Lebanon and Iraq.

"Iran is not the enemy, Israel is the enemy," the head of the Center for Strategic Studies in Saudi Arabia declared in an interview with Al Jazeera. This was his response to a question on whether the $60 billion arms deal between Riyadh and Washington was meant to deter Iran. The American efforts to portray the deal as aimed against Tehran doesn't fit with the Saudi point of view, and it seems this isn't the only subject over which these two countries fail to see eye to eye.

/We have this terrible habit of arming our enemies.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at October 27, 2010 04:58 AM (9hSKh)

58

In related news, Pelosi's commie San Francisco Giants to experience the wave, starting tonight, by those stalwarts of conservatism, the Texas Rangers.  Be the wave Rangers.

I hate baseball, althought it probably has something to do with the fact the local team here has had losing seasons for 22 of my 26 years on this earth and 18 in a row.

However, i will be rooting for the Texans (but not watching the game, seriously is there anything worse than a four hour baseball game? if we showed the game in Gitmo, Amnesty International would say we violated the Human Rights Declaration)

Posted by: Ben at October 27, 2010 04:58 AM (wuv1c)

59 BTW, on just about all equipment, the red button is the emergency stop. I doubt Hildebeast ever saw a piece of actual working equipment.

Posted by: maddogg at October 27, 2010 04:58 AM (OlN4e)

60

This is a bit disturbing, although not unexpected.

ANALYSIS / Iran's unlikely understanding with Saudi Arabia.

Iran and Saudi Arabia are working together to divide up their sphere of influence in Lebanon and Iraq.

"Iran is not the enemy, Israel is the enemy," the head of the Center for Strategic Studies in Saudi Arabia declared in an interview with Al Jazeera. This was his response to a question on whether the $60 billion arms deal between Riyadh and Washington was meant to deter Iran. The American efforts to portray the deal as aimed against Tehran doesn't fit with the Saudi point of view, and it seems this isn't the only subject over which these two countries fail to see eye to eye.

/We have this terrible habit of arming our enemies.

i miss reagan, remember the good old days when our enemies killed each other in wars?

also, better we arm them and get the money than let someone else do. God knows if we don't sell someone arms then the russians or chicoms will

Posted by: Ben at October 27, 2010 05:00 AM (wuv1c)

61 Well, it seems that since Mike Pence won a straw poll somewhere in the last couple months, he's ready to resign his leadership positions in the house and run for prez.  Sigh.  (via F&F)

Posted by: RushBabe at October 27, 2010 05:00 AM (a3Z62)

62

Probably posted before but great Marco Rubio video:

http://tinyurl.com/2dae43n

He pretty much sums up what is at stake in this, and the next, election.

via Carl in Jerusalem

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at October 27, 2010 05:00 AM (RkRxq)

63 Unfortunately we didn't realize it until to late that that red button was the actually launch key to our silos in the midwest.

Posted by: Ben at October 27, 2010 05:00 AM (wuv1c)

64 56 Former Governor Pete duPont just came out and endorsed Christine O'Donnell. I wonder what that's about.   ? What's the issue.   He's a Republican.  She's the Rep nominee.  You would expect him to endorse her, wouldn't you?  Only Q might be, what took so long, but better late than never.  Better Q is, when does that RINO sh*t Mike Castle man up and endorse her?

Posted by: Billy Batts at October 27, 2010 05:02 AM (K/USr)

65 50 Except these are democrats in Chicago, so I would think they want to set things up to vote twice. Once through the mail and then because there were irregularities, again at the polls.

Posted by: dagny at October 27, 2010 05:02 AM (9F0fL)

66

Well, it seems that since Mike Pence won a straw poll somewhere in the last couple months, he's ready to resign his leadership positions in the house and run for prez.  Sigh.  (via F&F)

He did give a great speech at a college. i think Drew linked to it a while back.

I don't think he should resign his seat just yet, but he's definately on my list which includes Paul Ryan and Chris Christie(I know he might be a lib/mod on social issues, but he is a fiscal hawk, and we are in a time where social issues won't matter if we default or go bankrupt)

Posted by: Ben at October 27, 2010 05:03 AM (wuv1c)

67

I commented on the utter stupidity of Barry and Hillary's smart diplomacy yesterday:

http://tinyurl.com/23qnbbp


 

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at October 27, 2010 05:03 AM (RkRxq)

Posted by: Nighthawk at October 27, 2010 05:04 AM (02uN6)

69 Wow, Dick "Dick" Blumenthal is a deadringer for FireMarshall Bill.

Posted by: Billy Batts at October 27, 2010 05:05 AM (K/USr)

70 They seem to say with their idiotic ideas about the world that, "Hey, if we know about it, then we can not do any thing about it!  But if we don't know about it then we won't know what to do nothing about!  Silly!"

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at October 27, 2010 05:05 AM (RkRxq)

71  If it does go through the Senate, Obama will veto it. But it's sending a message too. By the veto, he's keeping it an issue so a challenger from the GOP can run on it in 2012.

Posted by: Dave C at October 27, 2010 08:55 AM (o78dI)

If they had any strategery or brains, they'd attach it to every damn bill for the next two years, but this is the stupid party, remember? 

Posted by: RushBabe at October 27, 2010 05:05 AM (a3Z62)

72 #62  also, better we arm them and get the money than let someone else do. God knows if we don't sell someone arms then the russians or chicoms will

The Russians have been expanding their arms-dealing in the ME.  They're giving arms to Saudi Arabia, Iran, Syria, and Lebanon.  And even Turkey, which is most surprising, given that the Russians and the Turks were bitter enemies even up until the 1990's. 

/In the end, there will be only chaos.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at October 27, 2010 05:06 AM (9hSKh)

73 Tim Treadwell was one with the smart diplomacy. Now he's one with the bear poop.

Posted by: maddogg at October 27, 2010 05:06 AM (OlN4e)

74

Joe Miller is all in.

Palin to begin stumping for him in Alaska.

The polls must be pretty bad for Miller if he's doing this. (by which I mean close, not him down)

Posted by: Ben at October 27, 2010 05:06 AM (wuv1c)

75 Re Pence, congresscritters don't have a great track record as prez.  They legislate.  They don't run anything.  We seem to do better with governors.  Not sure if he's a social lib or moderate, but judging from the nasty comments we get on this board about religious folks, they'll have something to beeyotch about him for.  IIRC, his last speech was heavy on G-d.  Wasn't it printed here? 

Posted by: RushBabe at October 27, 2010 05:10 AM (a3Z62)

76

If it does go through the Senate, Obama will veto it. But it's sending a message too. By the veto, he's keeping it an issue so a challenger from the GOP can run on it in 2012.

Posted by: Dave C at October 27, 2010 08:55 AM (o78dI)

If they had any strategery or brains, they'd attach it to every damn bill for the next two years, but this is the stupid party, remember? 

I disagree. They should make one publicized vote to repeal it. It will fail in the Senate or be vetoed by Obama.

Then after that, tell the public they tried to veto it, which was the will of the voters in 2010, so now they will move on to defunding it.

Its clear they can't veto it in the 2010-2012 congress. It's not possible. However if they can justify defunding it, then I think it will be the first step towards delaying Obamacare long enough until the Republicans regain the Senate and the Presidency.

Posted by: Ben at October 27, 2010 05:11 AM (wuv1c)

77 SOMEONE IS TROLLING MYSTRY'S GUEST BOOK.

There's a filthy message on the first page (currently in the 40s). 

I think we should remove the links to the guestbook and/or contact mystry's offspring or something. 

And whichever of our trolls did this: burn in hell. 

Posted by: Y-not at October 27, 2010 05:11 AM (UcOiF)

78

Hey Kratos,

Do you ever read  Strategypage . com?

it is an interesting site.

Posted by: Ben at October 27, 2010 05:12 AM (wuv1c)

79 Nat Geo is having a special on the State Dept. Featuring, of course, the foreign policy genius Hillary. What a joke. I would rather watch an infomercial.

Posted by: maddogg at October 27, 2010 05:13 AM (OlN4e)

80

SOMEONE IS TROLLING MYSTRY'S GUEST BOOK.

There's a filthy message on the first page (currently in the 40s). 

I think we should remove the links to the guestbook and/or contact mystry's offspring or something. 

And whichever of our trolls did this: burn in hell. 

That's sick. This election is bringing out the worst in the left.

I don't know their contact information. Maybe Maet or Genghis does.

Posted by: Ben at October 27, 2010 05:13 AM (wuv1c)

Posted by: Justin Camp at October 27, 2010 05:15 AM (nF4Jh)

82 R.I.P. Mystery may the Perpetual Light shine upon you.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at October 27, 2010 05:15 AM (eOXTH)

83 80 Holy Crap. The left is so incredibly evil. To do something like that they have to be completely insane or possessed.

Posted by: dagny at October 27, 2010 05:15 AM (9F0fL)

84 I've emailed the general ace address (which he does seem to read most of the time) and asked him if we should pull the link to the guestbook for the time being.  We could provide the link via the yahoo group or privately somehow. 

I am devastated that someone would do this. 

Posted by: Y-not at October 27, 2010 05:16 AM (UcOiF)

85

And whichever of our trolls did this: burn in hell. 

Who would do such a thing. This is the most disgusting thing I've ever seen. I'm at an absolute loss of words and about to go into a full on rage.

Burning in hell is just not enough.

Someone please remove these links. There is one in the ONT, one here, and another on the Chris Christie thread below the ONT.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at October 27, 2010 05:17 AM (oyAID)

86 87 80 Holy Crap. The left is so incredibly evil. To do something like that they have to be completely insane or possessed.

Posted by: dagny at October 27, 2010 09:15 AM (9F0fL)

Yeah. But that ain't news.

Posted by: maddogg at October 27, 2010 05:17 AM (OlN4e)

87 @87
Of course I am jumping to conclusions that it is one of our trolls, but the timing just makes me think it must be.  I suppose it could be just a random jerk. 

sigh.

Should I contact the funeral home so they'll yank it?  I hope the family is too preoccupied to read the book right now. 

Posted by: Y-not at October 27, 2010 05:18 AM (UcOiF)

88 SOMEONE IS TROLLING MYSTRY'S GUEST BOOK.

There's a filthy message on the first page (currently in the 40s). 

I think we should remove the links to the guestbook and/or contact mystry's offspring or something. 

And whichever of our trolls did this: burn in hell.


Just when you think trolls they can't get any worse, they prove they can dig still deeper.  Horrible human being.

Posted by: some wench at October 27, 2010 05:18 AM (uJBct)

89

I disagree. They should make one publicized vote to repeal it. It will fail in the Senate or be vetoed by Obama.

He'd no doubt veto it every time.  The general voting public has the attention span and memory of a gnat.  I'd keep it in front of them constantly, relentlessly reminding them of it to give major ammo to the GOP candidate and all the new GOP reps voted in this cycle.  It will also provide a record for those libs who wouldn't mention/advocate repeal from the '12 congressional candidates -- especially senate candidates who are going to see the results of next Tuesday.  Let them vote no at their own peril.

Posted by: RushBabe at October 27, 2010 05:18 AM (a3Z62)

90 I've emailed the funeral home.

Posted by: Y-not at October 27, 2010 05:20 AM (UcOiF)

91 Disgusting!  mystry, please rest in peace while those of us still here in flesh as well as spirit crack our knuckles and prepare to kick some troll ASS.

Posted by: MWR at October 27, 2010 05:22 AM (4df7R)

92

I just did the same thing Y-not. More important for them to just take it down before the family reads it then to trace it.

 

Posted by: laceyunderalls at October 27, 2010 05:22 AM (oyAID)

Posted by: naturalfake at October 27, 2010 05:23 AM (I49Jm)

94 What if a Muslim country blew up and nobody gave a damn? Which is the same deal if they are waiting for help from another Muslim country.

Posted by: maddogg at October 27, 2010 05:23 AM (OlN4e)

95 Rather, they view Americans as children in need of instruction, close monitoring, behavior modification, and punishment if they rebel. In short, the American people need a mother Warden.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at October 27, 2010 05:24 AM (3iDt4)

96 No I want it taken down immediately. I almost threw up when I read it. No family should have to read that.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at October 27, 2010 05:26 AM (oyAID)

97
Never mind Iran, we have a re-set button.

Hillary. can. never. be. president.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at October 27, 2010 05:26 AM (0fzsA)

98
Yeah, the 9th court in a 3 judge panel ruled that AZ can't demand proof of citizenship to register to vote, something the courts have upheld in the past, but that's the 9th. I guess the new strategy for the libs is to bankrupt AZ in legal costs.  Too bad there is no way to recover costs from the incompetent and biased judges personally.

Posted by: Vic at October 27, 2010 08:03 AM (/jbAw) 

I don't understand how you can make a ruling like that with a straight face.

1) States determine eligibility to vote (ie, legal residence required; a Cali resident can't vote in AZ). If you aren't a citizen or a legal immigrant, then you can't possibly be a LEGAL resident of that state.

2) Voting is wholly a state matter. Where is the federal government or any federal court granted the power to decide what the rules are for a given state; the only requirement is that those rules apply EQUALLY.

3) What's the point of being a citizen if the right of voting is granted to 'anyone that wants to.'

This is so much bullshit. This is GOING to lead to armed revolt; I dont' believe it can possibly end any other way, though I hope that it does.

Then again, how has 'hope' worked for us so far.

Posted by: blindside at October 27, 2010 05:26 AM (x7g7t)

99
The difference between HillaryCare and ObamaCare?
Nothing.


Posted by: Lemon Kitten at October 27, 2010 05:27 AM (0fzsA)

100

I don't understand those that would harm a family in mourning by such a despicable act.  

Sad that to share information on line for others to mourn and give condolences leads to  ...shme shame!

I'm sorry twice for the family. whoever did this is of the lowest type, you disgusting soul. If you lurk or comment here i hope you are found out, add deleted from amongst us .

Posted by: willow at October 27, 2010 05:27 AM (iAu/o)

101 Hey... dont forget a shot of Dems applauding Calderon in the Congress.

Posted by: Leigh T at October 27, 2010 05:28 AM (iRF5t)

102 I just e-mailed mystry's daughter to let her know about this desecration of the guestbook.

Fucking bastard.  I'd like to fill this guy's face with my fist.  

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at October 27, 2010 05:28 AM (9hSKh)

103 Y-Not....I went through all the entries, twice, right after your first post about this.  I didn't see it.  Maybe someone already took it out.

Posted by: Tami at October 27, 2010 05:28 AM (VuLos)

104

Discovered, the unfortunate monkey species with a misshapen nose which makes it sneeze when it rains

Which makes me wonder why the heck it's nose developed that way in the first place.  What the heck could it POSSIBLY be good for?

Posted by: MWR at October 27, 2010 05:28 AM (4df7R)

105 109 Y-Not....I went through all the entries, twice, right after your first post about this.  I didn't see it.  Maybe someone already took it out.

It's still there.

The damage has already been done.  I'd take it down and have everybody send a condolences e-mail to be posted at the actual funeral.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at October 27, 2010 05:30 AM (9hSKh)

106 no tami it is there

Posted by: phoenixgirl at October 27, 2010 05:30 AM (eOXTH)

107 whoever did that is truly sick

Posted by: phoenixgirl at October 27, 2010 05:32 AM (eOXTH)

108

No it's still there. Right on the front page.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at October 27, 2010 05:32 AM (oyAID)

109 81 Hey Kratos,

Do you ever read  Strategypage . com?

it is an interesting site.

No, but I've got it bookmarked now.  Thanks for the heads-up.

I sometimes read Debka, but you've got to take their info with a grain of salt, unless its been confirmed by another news source.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at October 27, 2010 05:35 AM (9hSKh)

110 When my mom died, it was probably a week or more before I pulled it together well enough to read the guest book, so I hope none of the family have seen it.  I posted yesterday and used a real email address -- haven't heard from the family, so I hope they haven't read it. 

Of course, extended family and friends have seen it. 

Maybe it was a kid.  Only someone young (in addition to cruel and stupid) would be so out of touch with reality and inexperienced with the death would do this horrible thing... right?

Posted by: Y-not at October 27, 2010 05:37 AM (UcOiF)

111 @118
You're kidding. 
Please tell me you're kidding.

Posted by: Y-not at October 27, 2010 05:38 AM (UcOiF)

112

Please tell me you're kidding.

C'mon guys, let's use our brain.

That's obviously a sock.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at October 27, 2010 05:39 AM (oyAID)

113

The amazing 'uniter and not divider' seeks more division:

http://tinyurl.com/22msuqn

I am convinced that Barry equates the Republican party as the party of white people and the dems as the party of the "colored folk". 

Why else, or how else would he refer to his opponents of the opponents of Latinos as "the enemy"?  And, just to get a show of hands, how many of you morons are opposing latinos, anyway? 

Wow.  One fucking guy.  Oh, that's the dumbass Greg. 

This country is more divided than it has been in years and at this time, when we really don't need to be at each others' throats over bullshit.

Barry did this and he did it on purpose.  He did it as part of his strategy and he is destroying 50 years or more of progress eliminating this horseshit.  And if it isn't the coloreds against the whites, it's some other made up bullshit group against someone else. 

Barry is the poison that is killing this country.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at October 27, 2010 05:41 AM (RkRxq)

114 God is taking a real hit these days.  link

Posted by: curious at October 27, 2010 05:41 AM (p302b)

115 Maybe the 0 looks like an O in the hash. How sure are you, CDR M?

Posted by: Y-not at October 27, 2010 05:42 AM (UcOiF)

116 Okay it's gone now. Been removed.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at October 27, 2010 05:45 AM (oyAID)

117 Filth has been removed.  Thank goodness. 

We should monitor the book and keep alerting the funeral home when/if someone tries that again. 

Posted by: Y-not at October 27, 2010 05:45 AM (UcOiF)

118 Nice try CDR M, but you're not going to find the culprit this way.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at October 27, 2010 05:46 AM (9hSKh)

119 So The Hobbit will be filmed in New Zealand after all. I already want the disk.

Posted by: maddogg at October 27, 2010 05:51 AM (OlN4e)

120

did someone go back through the last few threads and find the links to the info? should find them all and have ace or another blogger with the keys delete them all

i know links were also in a comment or two.

Posted by: willow at October 27, 2010 05:54 AM (iAu/o)

121 @134
No.  Good idea.

I emailed ace but I didn't provide him the links.  Will do. 

Posted by: Y-not at October 27, 2010 05:55 AM (UcOiF)

122 Isn't there anything serverside that tracks IPs?  I mean, these hashes are assigned somehow--there must be an identifier somewhere.

Because if anyone deserves outing...

Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at October 27, 2010 05:55 AM (GBXon)

123

willow, see post 89. I told them where they could find the links.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at October 27, 2010 05:56 AM (oyAID)

124 O/T, but I have to share... Mr Y-not had to brush snow off of the car this morning.  Aieee! 

Posted by: Y-not at October 27, 2010 05:56 AM (UcOiF)

125

The Russians pinky-swore that they could account for the spent fuel rods, da?

Iran injects fuel into first nuclear reactor

TEHRAN, Iran – Iran began loading fuel into the core of its first nuclear power plant on Tuesday, moving closer to the start-up of a facility that the U.S. once hoped to stop over fears of Tehran's nuclear ambitions.

Iranian and Russian engineers started moving nuclear fuel into the main reactor building in August but a reported leak in a storage pool delayed injection of the fuel into the reactor.

"Fuel injection into the core of the reactor has begun," the state television announced.

The U.S. withdrew its opposition to the plant after Russia satisfied concerns over how it would be fueled and the fate of the spent fuel rods.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at October 27, 2010 05:58 AM (9hSKh)

126 N.J. phases out check payments for 460K people collecting unemployment benefitsBut we are Recovery!

Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at October 27, 2010 05:58 AM (LdYLm)

127 I wonder if Wingnut will attempt The Silmarillion. I wish they hadn't edited Tom Bombadil out of the LOTR's. He was one of my favorites.

Posted by: maddogg at October 27, 2010 05:58 AM (OlN4e)

128

honestly, no amount of public scorn or outing could help such a stain upon humanity. that person is most likely a politically active leftist. I have come to the conclusion that they are either clinically insane or just plain evil.

I have no use for these people.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at October 27, 2010 05:58 AM (oyAID)

129 He was such a kewl guy.  " Thanks to his 60 years in the trade, his wife Peg "never had an appliance down overnight" and he could often diagnose mechanical problems simply by listening to a "sick" dishwasher, dryer, or refrigerator. "  link

Now that is an amazing skill.....

Posted by: curious at October 27, 2010 06:00 AM (p302b)

130 Over the course of next year, when our health care system goes deeper in the crapper because of the Obamacare implementation, the pressure to repeal will be enormous, even with Congressional Democrats. Expect repeal with veto override when the first major corporation decides to pay the $2000 fine instead of insuring their employees.

Posted by: Dr. Heinz Doofenshmirtz at October 27, 2010 06:01 AM (4JpPD)

131
The most stingy, cheap and uncharitable people I know are all democrats.

Of course democrats will gladly steal YOUR money to pay for their welfare schemes.  and the dems feel so good doing it, too.


Posted by: Lemon Kitten at October 27, 2010 06:02 AM (0fzsA)

132 141 I wonder if Wingnut will attempt The Silmarillion.

That I doubt.  Mr Y-not and I are really hard-core Tolkienites, but neither of us made it through it (well, actually, technically he may have, but certainly not in a sitting, more piecemeal).  And Mr Y-not is really into scholarly books on language, history, ancient religions, and mythology. 


I always wished there was a story written on all of the wizards.  I know the history is treated to some extent, but it would have been nice to have a readable tale about the wizards.  Do we ever even learn who the others are (aside from Radaghast and Saruman, obviously)? 

Posted by: Y-not at October 27, 2010 06:05 AM (UcOiF)

133 Can someone please explain the il vote by mail ballot issue? How can a mail in ballot which is complete bullshit to begin with be counted after its returned to some dem party voter fraud division?

Posted by: evil libertarian at October 27, 2010 06:05 AM (FzVlt)

134 Hello death condolence trolling scumbag. I'll be waiting for you with bells on. Sharp, cactus-covered bells.

Posted by: The Barbed Cock of Satan at October 27, 2010 06:06 AM (3iDt4)

135 They really and truly are little more than a propaganda arm of the left. 

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at October 27, 2010 10:02 AM (vbh31)

My concern is that all this phony surge is a ploy to set up a lame excuse for the "unexpected" good results they achieve at the polls next week. All that "unexpected" good results from widespread extensive voting fraud.

Posted by: Vic at October 27, 2010 06:07 AM (/jbAw)

136

Posted by: The Barbed Cock of Satan at October 27, 2010 10:06 AM (3iDt4)

Can I join in?

Posted by: The Murder Dildo from Se7en at October 27, 2010 06:07 AM (4df7R)

137 Posted by: Soap MacTavish

The local papers and radio broadcasts here in NC are pushing the same faux-mentum. It's so transparent as to be laughable.

The Libs are about to lose the NC Legislature (hopefully) and the newly minted Dem Gov. just announced she's under Federal investigation for campaign violations, but they keep talking about "likely defeats for the Tea Party candidates" in CT, DE, etc.

Posted by: Lincolntf at October 27, 2010 06:08 AM (V/C0X)

138

They really and truly are little more than a propaganda arm of the left. 

Yes, they're touting the big guns coming here on behalf of the Dems.

Obama, Biden, and Clinton

One is in the middle of a nervous breakdown, the next would rather be eating paste, and the third just wants to find some Buckeye tail.

'Big guns' they're calling them, lol!

Posted by: laceyunderalls at October 27, 2010 06:08 AM (oyAID)

139 I have to say I cried a lot hearing about mystry's death.

Posted by: curious at October 27, 2010 06:09 AM (p302b)

140 What did the douchebag say on the guestbook anyway?

Posted by: Mr Pink at October 27, 2010 06:09 AM (XgDjl)

141 So does anyone have a feel for how the state-wide elections are going?  I mean, will guys like The Big Man (Christie) have more Rs in his state legislature next year?  That would be really something. 

Posted by: Y-not at October 27, 2010 06:10 AM (UcOiF)

142 @155
It was sexual filth.  Let's leave it at that. 

Posted by: Y-not at October 27, 2010 06:10 AM (UcOiF)

143

My concern is that all this phony surge is a ploy to set up a lame excuse for the "unexpected" good results they achieve at the polls next week. All that "unexpected" good results from widespread extensive voting fraud.

Posted by: Vic at October 27, 2010 10:07 AM (/jbAw)


I agree with you.  I mean someone was saying there are two machines and one is the one you vote on and one is already fully voted?  (that's just a rumor and the person said it as a joke in response to the NYC director of elections being fired) but the fact that anyone could say that even as a joke is concerning.

Posted by: curious at October 27, 2010 06:11 AM (p302b)

144

What do y'all think PJ & Co will do with the second Hobbit film?  I've been trying to think how Wingnut can expand the single Hobbit novel into more than one film, but I'm pretty sure they can't stretch that over more than three hours.  I know the second movie is supposed to bridge the time between the events of The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings, but does anyone have any specifics?

Y-Not: Agreed about the Silmarillion.  I've read bits of it here and there, but that's across years.  It's not really a tome that can be turned into a film.  I wonder about a TV series, though.  Some kind of sweeping mini-series.  It could work, if the scriptwriters tightened up the story and got excellent actors to portray the characters.  There's a lot of good material there, but it's daunting and dense.

Posted by: MWR at October 27, 2010 06:12 AM (4df7R)

145

WASHINGTON – Less than a week before Election Day, President Barack Obama is quietly using the power of his office in a final effort to get Democratic supporters to the polls and nudge close races in his party's favor.

Though Obama is off the campaign trail for three full days this week, he's personally targeting key Democratic constituencies from the White House, holding conference calls with union activists and campaign volunteers, and doing interviews with radio stations that draw largely black audiences. He'll also target younger voters when he tapes an appearance on "The Daily Show with Jon Stewart" on Wednesday.

 

Not that it matters to Barry but I thought that you can't campaign from the White House or use the White House like that

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 27, 2010 06:16 AM (1Jaio)

146 159 What do y'all think PJ & Co will do with the second Hobbit film? 

I re-read The Hobbit recently (it was never my favorite) and I don't see how you get more than one movie out of it either.

What I hope they do is somehow capture the deep magic of Middle Earth, but I'm not sure there's really the material in The Hobbit to do that, unfortunately.  LOTR was the vehicle for that, but he chose to emphasize the dark elements of the plot line and didn't (imho) really give fair treatment to what was being lost from Middle Earth.  The Hobbit is much more of a children's book. 


Posted by: Y-not at October 27, 2010 06:17 AM (UcOiF)

147 Beren and Luthien from the Silmarillion was Tolkien's favorite story.  I think it would be neat to see it made into a movie.  Who wouldn't want to see Sauron lose a fight to a talking dog?

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 27, 2010 06:17 AM (FkKjr)

148 @160
Face it.  Obama makes Nixon look like Mary Poppins. 

Posted by: Y-not at October 27, 2010 06:18 AM (UcOiF)

149 If SEIU is gonna cheat in Arizona already, you would think the stupid sons of cheap street whores would have the brains not to get caught 5 minutes after the polls open.


Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahha.........  idiot.

Posted by: Eric Holders Justice Department at October 27, 2010 06:19 AM (J5Hcw)

150 "He voted for cap and tax, obamacare and the stimulus" according to a friend who sent this with the comment "this is pathetic"....link  (the friend grew up in the state)

Posted by: curious at October 27, 2010 06:21 AM (p302b)

151 per #166....watch the video....

Posted by: curious at October 27, 2010 06:22 AM (p302b)

152 I always wished there was a story written on all of the wizards.  I know the history is treated to some extent, but it would have been nice to have a readable tale about the wizards.  Do we ever even learn who the others are (aside from Radaghast and Saruman, obviously)? 

Posted by: Y-not at October 27, 2010 10:05 AM (UcOiF)

I agree about the Wizards, there were 5 I think, and they were sent for a reason, which is never revealed. Radagast hardly got a mention, and nothing of the others besides Sauruman and Gandalf.

I've read The Silmarllion twice or three times. I think there are several movies there. They would certainly be more interesting than Halloween XXXIII Mikey is back again, which Hollywood seems only capable of.

Posted by: maddogg at October 27, 2010 06:22 AM (OlN4e)

153 Not that it matters to Barry but I thought that you can't campaign from the White House or use the White House like that.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahha.........  you too.

Posted by: Eric Holders Justice Department at October 27, 2010 06:22 AM (J5Hcw)

154

And so it begins.

Baltimore Hands Out First Trans Fat Citation

The best part?  The citation was issued to a "food facility" called HEALTHY CHOICE.

(Not the microwave dinner people, btw).

Posted by: MWR at October 27, 2010 06:24 AM (4df7R)

155 Horrible tragedy.  It appears bears in Siberia are attacking democrat voters:

http://tinyurl.com/3x4z8em

Posted by: VT02 at October 27, 2010 06:25 AM (Ll70k)

156

Who wouldn't want to see Sauron lose a fight to a talking dog?

YES PLEASE. 

I would love that almost as much as watching Biden lose a fight to a concussed tree frog.  And he'd lose all right.  He'd put up a helluva fight, but he'd still lose.  And it would RULE.

Posted by: MWR at October 27, 2010 06:27 AM (4df7R)

157 Moki
My grandmother was also Russian Orthodox, devoutly, and she never cut her hair after she was married.  Due to language limitations I could never understand whether or not this was a religious custom.  Do you know of any customs like that?

Posted by: chillin the most at October 27, 2010 06:39 AM (6IV8T)

158 This is unrelated to anything here...I just need to vent... Today is one of the worst days of my life. My wife is going to apply for WIC. We don't make enough money right now. I work at Walmart and she works part-time so she can look after our four month old little girl. She's also going to go on Medicaid. It really, really sucks. I told her she was only going on this crap for five months at MOST! There is no way in hell I would be able to stand this longer than five months. It's not like we had a child and couldn't afford it. We get a lot of help from family. And I'm also working on getting promoted at work so I can make more money. Luckily they promote at work a lot, but I've only been there 18 months. There's really no point to this post, I just needed to vent. This totally, totally sucks. Ugh.

Posted by: Joffen at October 27, 2010 06:45 AM (Mf3m7)

159 @175
I'm sorry to hear that, Joffen.  Those programs are there for a reason.  I hope your situation improves asap.  Hang tough! 

Posted by: Y-not at October 27, 2010 07:06 AM (UcOiF)

160 Thanks that means a lot. I don't want to contribute to the debt problem so I will continue to get MY health insurance from work. I'm working very hard to get promoted, too. I'm glad I work for Walmart, a company that gives good opportunities to people with the right motivation. But I can't help but wonder if I am now a hypocrite. I have strong conservative views yet my family is going to be on government assistance. How can I rectify this is my mind and not feel like a hypocrite?

Posted by: Joffen at October 27, 2010 07:14 AM (Ioow6)

161 But I can't help but wonder if I am now a hypocrite. I have strong conservative views yet my family is going to be on government assistance. How can I rectify this is my mind and not feel like a hypocrite?

Look, I'm a conservative.  I consider myself pretty darned conservative on most things, but that doesn't mean there isn't a role for government.  (I suppose if I were a Libertarian I'd feel differently... one reason I am not a Libertarian and never will be.)  I criticize a lot of public programs, but the fact of the matter is that there is good being done out there, even by public employees.  My own dad was a social worker/probation officer in DC for years and years and years.  He was part of a broken system, but he was a small part of the system that was actually doing good. 

My own situation has become very precarious over the past couple of years.  We'll either get through it or we won't -- the jury is still out.  But we simply do not have the network of family and friends who can help us if the worst happens.  We struck out on our own when we were young and live far from any of our family.  If certain things fall the wrong way, we'd be in the same boat as you. 

People talk tough on these blogs, and I guess some people actually believe what they write, but I think in a lot of cases folks who have not experienced the sorts of bad luck that some of us have just really don't realize how quickly things can tip the wrong way.  I've read some ridiculous things on the unemployment threads (especially at HotAir) where it's clear the folks writing have never been in a position where they didn't have the security of a job they couldn't lose and family near by to bail them out.  It makes me want to jump through the screen and strangle them, but I think they are just really naive. 

Do not feel guilty.  It won't help and it's not "right."  You have an obligation to take care of your family, especially your child, and it is certainly nothing to be ashamed of to use the resources available to you. 



Posted by: Y-not at October 27, 2010 07:40 AM (UcOiF)

162

Agreed, Y-not. 

Speaking for myself, Joffen, I, too, hold strong conservative views, but my problem is not with welfare as a whole.  it is with the out of control EXPLOITATION of welfare by people who just don't want to go out and find a job, and who think that the world somehow owes them something.  That sense of entitlement is what is ruining this country and what has led to our government's crazily out of control spending.

That said, there are many, many people who go on welfare for the very reasons you stated: they need to. They need the help, but they don't want to stay on the public teat forever.  They feel a sense of rightful responsibility for themselves and their family, and they see welfare only as a means of survival until they can get back on their feet.  Everyone falls on hard times; there's no shame in that.  What's important is that you do what you're doing and keep your eye focused on how you can better your situation through hard work and initiative.  Keep offering that example to your children and you'll raise good, honest children who will be a benefit and a blessing to this country in the future.

Good luck to you, Joffen, and god bless!

Posted by: MWR at October 27, 2010 08:18 AM (4df7R)

163

Joffen

Don't feel like a loser. Your doing what you have to for your family. Those programs were originally intended to help people get on their feet, and nobody is against that. The problem is people who live on the dole as a lifestyle choice. You will get back on your feet, so in your case, the system is working like it was intended. I have a Russian engineer working for me. He arrived in this country with a wife, a baby, no job and no English and $15.00 in his pocket. Today he is working as an engineer, his wife is a doctor, his daughter is a doctor doing her internship. He too is highly conservative, but the system kept him alive until he could get his shit together. So take heart!

Posted by: maddogg at October 27, 2010 08:24 AM (OlN4e)

164 Joffen, there is a big difference between those that permanently live off the largess of the state and those who temporarily utilize the resources to which they themselves contributed (via taxes).

  You and yours are productive citizens temporarily visited by a nightmare.  Have faith in your abilities.  You will prevail and become stronger because of these tribulations.


Posted by: Derak at October 27, 2010 08:38 AM (gizcd)

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Posted by: jimmuy at October 27, 2010 08:53 AM (Zf8or)

166 #159- Can't believe that you couldn't make it through The Silmarillion.  Speaking for myself, I've probably read it cover-to-cover a half-dozen times, and it's actually my favorite of all that he wrote.  It ties many loose ends together (and, unfortunately, creates a few more!).  Since it was compiled after Tolkein's death, it lacks his insights and continuity, but there is a lot of meat there for a few movies- the story of the creation of Middle Earth and Arda, the battle over the Silmarils, the overthrow of Morgoth, the list goes on and on.

Posted by: Tim the Enchanter at October 27, 2010 09:46 AM (izA2D)

167

RE: THE SICK SOB WHO DEFACED MYSTRY"S ONLINE MEMORIAL

I would have let this go, except for YNOT entertaining the notion  not once, but twice, that I might be said SICK SOB who should rot in hell. Even after CDR M put the absurd notion to rest in the headlines thread.

Apparently, since I used the sock "Franklin Pierce" 4 months ago (I've actually probably used it 20 different times, I'm creative that way), I might just be the Franklin Pierce who left the vile shit on the online memorial.  That is just brilliant. Fucking Jim Rockford/Magnum PI shit right there.

Perhaps I'm a bit exercised, but I think I have good reason.  Short of being tagged as a child molester, I can't think of anything worse than having my name within a hundred miles of such an accusation.

I hope in the future we are a tad more careful about this sort of thing. 

With all that said, let me say a few words to the real culprit...FOADIAF you  degenerate CS.

Ah, now I feel better.

Sorry to hijack the thread.  That is all.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at October 27, 2010 10:26 AM (AZWim)

168 @186
You really need to re-read this thread. 
I don't appreciate you spreading the notion that either CDR M or I were smearing your name here or on any other threads.  If you take the time to read the sequence of messages, you'll see there was a confusion about a zero in the hash.  CDR M pronounced it a dead end, I briefly misunderstood him and expressed concern/confusion, then it was quickly cleared up. 

Posted by: Y-not at October 27, 2010 10:47 AM (UcOiF)

169

While I wish CDR M hadn't used my name once he saw it had nothing to do with me, I have no beef with him at all. His heart was in the right place trying to find the scumbag.  He also quickly, BY NAME, said it wasn't me.

That's why I wrote this.....

Even after CDR M put the absurd notion to rest in the headlines thread.

You however go on to say this in the Joe Miller thread...

I wish we could figure out which troll it was. It seems like CDR M did ascertain it was someone from here since the name used matched one from a thread here and I think he said the hash as well... ? 

I don't know how to do that sort of stuff. 

We basically only have a couple of active trolls right now, but it could be a lurker. 

CDR M did no such thing and told you so.  The name matched up with MY hash, because I used Franklin Pierce as a sockpuppet.  Do you understand? It was my hash.  It's also completely irrelevant to who left the vile comments.

I know you probably don't mean me any harm but sheesh, the fucking hash is meaningless.

Again, this is why I responded.  I didn't want you to keep associating that hash, MY HASH, with Franklin Pierce the scumbag who left the comments.

The end.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at October 27, 2010 11:38 AM (AZWim)

170 @188

Delta,

I'm really sorry if my comments gave that impression.  I don't think anyone else interpreted them the way you are reading them, fwiw.

If you look upthread you'll see this post by me:
125 Maybe the 0 looks like an O in the hash. How sure are you, CDR M?

And then CDR M's response:
127 It is an O not an o.  The search engine changed it on me.

At that point it became apparent that the hash that looked on first glance to be your hash was not your hash.  The idea that it was you was dismissed from everyone's mind, including mine. 

But I was still confused (apparently) by what had been found, mostly because I do not know how these things are discovered.   What I thought had happened was that the hash associated with the condolence book appeared on the same thread as one where you happened to use that sock puppet.  I thought that hash, although different than yours (but similar enough so that a zero looking like the letter "O" would make them look the same), had appeared at AoS.  I thought that indicated that the person who posted on the condolence book was one of our trolls who had posted here before and who used a name he associated with AoS to leave his comment. 

That's all I meant by the comment you quoted.  I did not say or mean to imply that you were the troll.  By "someone" I simply meant an anonymous person who had posted at AoSHQ before using a hash that resembled yours with a zero swapped with an O. 

I'm sorry to have upset you.  I hope you can accept my explanation.  I would be sad to fall out with you over an innocent mistake that arose out of someone else's intentional cruelty. 

Posted by: Y-not at October 27, 2010 03:42 PM (UcOiF)

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Posted by: Senator Soothsayer (R-AoS) at October 27, 2010 03:58 PM (waTiq)

172 I would be sad to fall out with you over an innocent mistake that arose out of someone else's intentional cruelty. 

Posted by: Y-not at October 27, 2010 07:42 PM (UcOiF)

No worries.  I'm not mad at you. It was just about protecting my reputation.  What little of one I have here in Moron country.  I have no intention of falling out with you.

It's over.  No big deal.

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