November 16, 2010

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1
Obama Leaves Country, Again!

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at November 16, 2010 03:15 AM (v1gw3)

2 TSA. Where else can pedophiles and nana molestors actually look forward to punchin' in .

Posted by: katarax at November 16, 2010 03:23 AM (fqI2/)

3 R-AZ Sen.Kyl considers support for Obama's nuclear START dismantling of the military.

Meanwhile, Obama apportions military defense satellite broadband from the Navy and weather NOAA to be sold. The Pentagon had no comment. But the NOAA overtly complies with this administration.

The new Commerce Department proposal would free up an additional 115 megahertz of spectrum over the next five years for wireless broadband. Of that, 100 megahertz would be shared with Defense Department radar systems. Another 15 megahertz would be reclaimed from National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration satellites used to disseminate weather information.
"Feds propose shifting airwaves to broadband,"
Breitbart
Big Journalism, By JOELLE TESSLER, Nov. 15




Posted by: Sherlock Holmes at November 16, 2010 03:29 AM (H+LJc)

Posted by: Comrade Trumanski at November 16, 2010 03:29 AM (HLGCA)

5 Anybody know the ettiquette for tipping the TSA rep for a really good "pat down"? They really should bring back the smoking area for after the happy ending.

Posted by: Pat McGroin at November 16, 2010 03:29 AM (DXa7u)

Posted by: Comrade Trumanski at November 16, 2010 03:31 AM (HLGCA)

7
Liberal Brain Trust Scheme to Unfuck Obama with Public.

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at November 16, 2010 03:32 AM (v1gw3)

8

Gift keeps on giving:  Schumer to head Senate Dem messaging efforts.

Really?  The messsage they got from their UNPRECEDENTED!!! ass-kicking is that they need yet another ugly obnoxious asshole to explain to America why we're too dumb to pick Democrats?

Posted by: Comrade Trumanski at November 16, 2010 03:34 AM (HLGCA)

9
"Europe stumbles blindly towards its 1931 moment"
Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, UK Telegraph


Unless the ECB takes fast and dramatic action, it risks destroying the currency it is paid to manage, and allowing a political catastrophe to unfold in Europe.

If mishandled, Ireland could all too easily become a sovereign version of Credit Anstalt - the Austrian bank that brought down the central European financial system in 1931, sent tremors through London and New York, and set off the second deeper phase of the Great Depression, the phase when politics turned ugly.
...
The eurozone’s fiscal fund (European Financial Stability Facility) is fatally flawed. Like Alpinistas roped together, an ever-reduced core of solvent states are supposed to carry the weight on an ever-widening group of insolvent states dangling beneath them. This lacks political credibility and may be tested to destruction if – as seems likely – Ireland is forced to ask for help. At which moment the chain-reaction begins in earnest, starting with Iberia.
...
Will German voters then accept higher taxes to save their profligate neighbours?”

In May it was enough for the EU to announce a €750bn safety-net with the IMF for eurozone debtors. Bond spreads narrowed. A spike in economic output - led by Germany’s rogue growth of 9pc (annualised) in the second quarter – beguiled EU elites into believing that monetary union had survived its ordeal by fire. It had not, and this time they will have to put up real money.
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The ECB is the last line of defence. It can halt the immediate Irish crisis whenever it wishes by buying Irish bonds. Yet instead of pulling out all the stops to save monetary union, the bank is winding down its emergency operations and draining liquidity. It is repeating the policy error it made by raising rates into the teeth of the crisis in July 2008.

Yes, the ECB is already propping up Ireland and Club Med by unlimited lending to local banks that then rotate into their own government debt in an internal “carry trade”. And yes, the ECB is understandably wary of crossing the fateful line from monetary to fiscal policy by funding treasury debt.

Bundesbank chief Axel Weber might fairly conclude that it is impossible at this stage to reconcile the needs of Germany and the big debtors. If the ECB prints money on the scale required to underpin the South, it would set off German inflation, destroy German faith in monetary union, and perhaps run afoul of GermanyÂ’s constitutional court. If EMU must split in two, it might as well be done on Teutonic terms.

Posted by: Sherlock Holmes at November 16, 2010 03:36 AM (H+LJc)

10

Breathtaking...

111 unions and other friends of Democrats get Obamacare waiver, including Sebelius' own Obamacare advocacy nonprofit

Posted by: Comrade Trumanski at November 16, 2010 03:37 AM (HLGCA)

11 Gift keeps on giving:  Schumer to head Senate Dem messaging efforts.

Awww...that's so nice.  It will give him more media time.  Ya know, he doesn't get enough time in front of the camera.  /s

Posted by: Tami at November 16, 2010 03:37 AM (VuLos)

Posted by: Comrade Trumanski at November 16, 2010 03:38 AM (HLGCA)

13 Trumanski #6 Congressional Results

1,489 N.C. Voters, BRAVO !

Nurse Ellmers victorious over the incumbent sidewalk molester Etheridge.

Posted by: Sherlock Holmes at November 16, 2010 03:43 AM (H+LJc)

14
Big Sis Napolitano patted down at Reagan National, and TSA nerd discovers miniature cock and balls!

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at November 16, 2010 03:48 AM (v1gw3)

15 Anything new up in Alaska? Unless I'm mistaken, Joe Miller still holding a lead up there with military and mail-in ballots yet to be counted. Dear Lord, PLEEEEASE!!!!! Tepid Air has a revolting segment on Lisa Rawmusglutesky, saying she doesn't hope Obama fails and that John Cornyn and Shmuck Schumer warmly welcomed her back to DC.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 16, 2010 03:48 AM (9Cooa)

16 14 Big Sis Napolitano patted down at Reagan National, and TSA nerd discovers miniature cock and balls! Posted by: Fish the Impaler at November 16, 2010 07:48 AM (v1gw3) They also found Barney Frank's eatin' teeth.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 16, 2010 03:49 AM (9Cooa)

17 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 16, 2010 07:48 AM (9Cooa)

Don't get your hopes up.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at November 16, 2010 03:50 AM (LH6ir)

18 News update: Anna Nichole Smith still dead, and Joe Scarborough still a douche. Mika Porn at 11:00.

Posted by: CoolCzech at November 16, 2010 03:50 AM (tJjm/)

19 A new take on derision applied to Corruption Charlie's "Rangel Rules":

ALL of your lawyers quit when they realize that there is absolutely NO defense to argue. NO ONE will accept to argue your case, no matter how much you offer to pay. You can't show up yourself without leaving yourself open for scrutiny on the record, implicating yourself.

Charlie is only one corrupt fish in the Congressional School of fraud. Taking Rangel down without taking others with him is mere show, as if that will suffice the demands of today's enraged American Voting Tax Payers.

Posted by: Sherlock Holmes at November 16, 2010 03:51 AM (H+LJc)

20 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at November 16, 2010 07:50 AM (LH6ir) Meh. You're probably right but who knows? I am most definitely pissed at the Repub leadership (what else is new?) for not stripping her of her leadership roles. That is inexcusable and I hope it bites Cornyn and the rest of them in their collective ass come re-election time.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 16, 2010 03:54 AM (9Cooa)

21 Anything new up in Alaska? Unless I'm mistaken, Joe Miller still holding a lead up there with military and mail-in ballots yet to be counted. Dear Lord, PLEEEEASE!!!!!

Not true - ADN reporting MooKowPie up by 1700 votes this morning with counting still going on and her getting almost all of the write-ins. 

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2010 03:55 AM (/jbAw)

22 Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2010 07:55 AM (/jbAw) Fuck and double-fuckity fucking fuck fuck.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 16, 2010 03:56 AM (9Cooa)

23 And yes, I still chalk up the Dem wins (and I count her as a Dem regardless of who she "caucuses" with) to the fact that the Republicans peaked early and the Dems still had the GOTV apparatus working. In the case of AK it was with the "native American" tribes in the local areas that made the difference.

The so-called "enthusiasm gap" did not materialize. We had record turnout here and it looks like the rest of the country did as well. So no, it wasn't a case of the "Tea Party" selecting conservatives in Blue States that resulted in Dem wins in the Blue States. It was case of the Dems getting their people to the polls.  That massive "wave" depended on Dems staying at home and they didn't. What we saw was mostly Red State districts reverting to Red after the 2008 debacle where Republicans stayed at home.

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2010 04:03 AM (/jbAw)

24

Gotta love this...

(Reuters) - If President Barack Obama is not yet convinced that his international star power has faded, his next round of transatlantic summitry should clear up any lingering doubts.

Posted by: HH at November 16, 2010 04:12 AM (6oDXl)

25 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 16, 2010 07:54 AM (9Cooa)

Doing everything possible to mitigate the Obama disaster should be the highest priority for the Republicans. After 2012, when, hopefully, we have a Republican president and senate, then we can tear the grasping harpy limb from limb and cast her entrails onto a mountainside, to be picked over by vultures.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at November 16, 2010 04:13 AM (LH6ir)

26 Posted by: HH at November 16, 2010 08:12 AM (6oDXl)

Love it!

Soon thye only people who will bother with Obama(pbuh) will be the drones at MSNBC and NPR. Hell, last night I heard Anderson Cooper criticizing the administration.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at November 16, 2010 04:15 AM (LH6ir)

27 As an eternal entrepreneur, I am considering starting a new business venture. A "fluffer" service for self-conscious men about to enter the full body scanners.


Posted by: StrategicCorporalUSMC at November 16, 2010 04:17 AM (jfuzI)

28 The Dems have their little army of Hitler Youth er Organizing for America (OFA) that has over ten million members.  They were doing GOTV like crazy.

But.. I think that was probably their optimum effort..  And, if that's the best they can do, and we can step up our efforts a bit more, we might be able to beat Obama in 2012.

We just have to not lose Indepedents between now and then.

Posted by: Chitown Jerry at November 16, 2010 04:19 AM (Do528)

29 111 unions and other friends of Democrats get Obamacare waiver

providing 111 cases upon which to sue against Obama's Un-Affordable Health Care mandates.

Conservatives will no longer tolerate Democratic-Socialist campaign topics directing the 2012 coming elections.

The LEFT made "affordable and COMPREHENSIVE health care REFORM" the main '08 issue for debate. They also provided McCain the GOP potus ticket.

Never debate the Left on the Left's mutant and malleable terms since those results never play out as promised, and always play out to advance the bankruptcy of America, authoritarian governance, and death to Constitutional Liberty. And the Republican establishment is the Left as well, progressively left of "center", propagating The Patriot Act and DHS authoritarianism with ensuing obtuse augmentation of government bureaucracies and spending.

The US Constitution is the only centrist point from which we all align, left to ignore or right to sustain.

Limited federal powers keeps government small requiring less taxation.


Posted by: Sherlock Holmes at November 16, 2010 04:22 AM (H+LJc)

30 Sidebar story on Fannie and Freddie:

These days, everyone—even Barney Frank—claims to want to reform Fannie and Freddie. Most Republicans now sound like these columns did for more than a decade, assailing the companies for their systemic risk to the financial system after taxpayers have had to put up $150 billion, and ...

Fox had a story this morning that it looked like another 300B in taxpayer funds would be needed to bailout bad loans in F&F. That story has disappeared. Too bad the WSJ op ed requires a subscription to read.

I gather that this 300B in bailout is already a done deal because the government "backed" these loans and F&F. Since the government can destroy contracts in bankruptcy court, why not just let F&F go bankrupt and destroy that "backing" as well?

Personally I think Raines and the other Democrat crimminals who were running F&F should be held accoutable and not only be forced to pay out all their accumulated ill gotten gains, but also should be occupying the cell next to Bernie Maddoff.

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2010 04:24 AM (/jbAw)

31 Posted by: Chitown Jerry at November 16, 2010 08:19 AM (Do52

Agreed. What is difficult to understand is how close our political divisions really are. The recent blowouts have been because of personality, not politics and policy. Reagan was an absolutely superb politician and campaigner, but absent his charisma, how would the Republican party have done in 1980 and 1984? And even Bush pere ran against an incredibly wooden opponent.

We have to face facts; a large part of this country will vote Dem even with a dead girl and a live boy in the back seat of the candidate's car.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at November 16, 2010 04:25 AM (LH6ir)

32 Gotta love this...

HH, bwahahahaha!

The TOTUS hasn't informed Obama yet of his diplomatic fiasco.

Posted by: Sherlock Holmes at November 16, 2010 04:28 AM (H+LJc)

33

Because it has to be said...

EAGLES!!

Posted by: Mama AJ at November 16, 2010 04:30 AM (XdlcF)

34 We have to face facts; a large part of this country will vote Dem even with a dead girl and a live boy in the back seat of the candidate's car.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at November 16, 2010 08:25 AM (LH6ir)

I have said many times there really is no such thing as true "independents". 95% of these independents vote for one Party or the other always and like most elections, they are split 50-50. They key is always who gets their people to the polls. This time both sides got to the polls and the Republicans took the Red States that had turned purple back for the most part.

Well with a bunch of Senate RINOs jumping on amnesty in this lame duck session it appears that the Republican leadership is still stuck in the shit that killed them in 2006 and 2008.

They are actively trying to kill the Republican GOTV effort in 2012. 

We are going to have to watch these people closely. And this is one of the reasons I always say that electing RINOs, even in Blue States does matter.


Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2010 04:31 AM (/jbAw)

35

I bought a Kobo yesterday instead of a Kindle for no other reason than the amazon.com pedophile book debacle.  I know amazon is huge enough to weather any boycott but I'm curious how much it's costing them to take the wrong side in that scandal.

Posted by: CrustyB at November 16, 2010 04:34 AM (qzgbP)

36 I bought a Kobo yesterday instead of a Kindle for no other reason than the amazon.com pedophile book debacle.

You guys know that "Amazon" doesn't sell this crap. All it takes for you to sell stuff on Amazon is "click on the button" in the "my account" page for selling your own stuff.

The problem is that even though this kind of stuff is against their sales policy they just don't make a lot of effort policing it.

They react to the events instead of finding them themselves and kicking the people off.

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2010 04:37 AM (/jbAw)

37

Aww, Prince William and his lovely girlfriend, Kate Middleton are engaged. 

As an American, the concept of royalty offends me and none offend me more than the idiot members of the House of Windsor.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 16, 2010 04:38 AM (B+qrE)

38

This means more Ibiza hookers for Prince Harry.

How much would a plane ticket to Ibiza and a pair of crotchless fishnets set me back? Just wonderin'.

Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at November 16, 2010 04:44 AM (HaYO4)

39 Ooooh, I'm shaking!

Iranians begin 5-day, nationwide air defense drill

The Iranian military began a five-day nationwide military drill dubbed "Defenders of the Sky" on Tuesday, state-run IRNA reported.

"Army Defense Forces, Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), police and Basij have joined the military exercise," drill spokesman Brig.-Gen. Hamid Arjangi told IRNA.

/Will we see more photoshopped pics of additional planes and missiles? 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 16, 2010 04:45 AM (9hSKh)

40 35

Because it has to be said...

That was a massacre by the Iggles.  28 points by the 1st quarter.  I should have just went home after that.

Michael Vic has great talent. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 16, 2010 04:47 AM (9hSKh)

41

I bought a Kobo yesterday instead of a Kindle for no other reason than the amazon.com pedophile book debacle.


Missed that story and I don't know what a Kobo is...but other than that, I'm on top of things...

Posted by: Mama AJ at November 16, 2010 04:47 AM (XdlcF)

42 Is there a mechanism in Law to exile an American Citizen? What if the crew of AF1, ahem, accidentally, leaves President Divot in Europe?

Posted by: eman at November 16, 2010 04:48 AM (0Ui1v)

43 I this this link should get you the entire Fannie Mae Freddie Mac article.

Posted by: Ed Anger at November 16, 2010 04:52 AM (7+pP9)

44

Posted by: eman at November 16, 2010 08:48 AM (0Ui1v)

Or instead of "Hail to the Chief", why don't they just play "I'm Leaving on a Jet Plane" everytime he appears?

Posted by: HH at November 16, 2010 04:52 AM (6oDXl)

45 39

Aww, Prince William and his lovely girlfriend, Kate Middleton are engaged. 

As an American, the concept of royalty offends me and none offend me more than the idiot members of the House of Windsor.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 16, 2010 08:38 AM (B+qrE)

What offends me is the concept of a "family" Senate seat ala Kennedy & Murky

Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at November 16, 2010 04:53 AM (dcxBM)

46

The three-alarm blaze that caused $1.1 million in damage to a warehouse filled with rock legend Neil Young's music equipment and memorabilia appears to have started in a one-of-a-kind hybrid car stored at the site, a fire official said Monday.

Flames began in a 1959 Lincoln Continental dubbed LincVolt, which runs on electric batteries and a biodiesel-powered generator, and then spread to the warehouse at 593 Quarry Road in the early morning of Nov. 9, according to Belmont-San Carlos Fire Marshal Jim Palisi and a website devoted to the car.

Young assembled a team of workers in 2008 to convert the 19.5-foot behemoth from gasoline to hybrid power, an effort he chronicled in a four-part film series.

Irony can be pretty ironic sometimes.

Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at November 16, 2010 04:54 AM (dcxBM)

47 Oh well, that didn't work. To get the whole article I went to google news and searched for Fannie Mae Freddie Mac. The search will get you a Wall Street Journal link that will pull up the entire article.

Posted by: Ed Anger at November 16, 2010 04:55 AM (7+pP9)

48

The poor Benburnank can't catch a break:

http://tinyurl.com/23r2krs

I hope they win, but they almost certainly won't.  Barry and team want inflation because that is the only thing that will remotely save their march to the left.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at November 16, 2010 04:55 AM (RkRxq)

49 Raines and the other Democrat crimminals who were running F&F should be held accoutable and not only be forced to pay out all their accumulated ill gotten gains, but also should be occupying the cell next to Bernie Maddoff.

Take down the corrupt Republicans in on the F&F scam as well, given equal opportunism graft in politics where ever tax funds and power are to be had and taken by establishment figures.

A former Nixon aide, and subsequent national finance co-chairman, Fred Malek was on the Freddie Mac Board during the last GWB administration.

In 2000, Rick Davis became the head of a group called the Homeownership Alliance, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac advocacy group. Its website said that the organization was dedicated to "exposing and defeating trends that would harm consumer access to the lowest-cost mortgage option."  He was head of the group for five years, being paid more than $30,000 per month. At the end of 2005, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac decided that Homeownership Alliance had outlived its usefulness, and it was closed.

Charlie Black, a top adviser, earned huge sums lobbying Fannie and Freddie.


Posted by: Sherlock Holmes at November 16, 2010 04:56 AM (H+LJc)

50 50

The poor Benburnank can't catch a break:

http://tinyurl.com/23r2krs

I hope they win, but they almost certainly won't.  Barry and team want inflation because that is the only thing that will remotely save their march to the left.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at November 16, 2010 08:55 AM (RkRxq)

Go Team Deflation!

Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at November 16, 2010 04:57 AM (dcxBM)

51 Any econ whizzes?  What's the deal with the core rate and the producer prices?  (Check the sidebar.)  Glenn Beck, inter alia, has been telling me we're starting an inflationary period.  And he's an economist. 

Posted by: rdbrewer at November 16, 2010 04:58 AM (FbPGy)

52

Aww, Prince William and his lovely girlfriend, Kate Middleton are engaged. 

Great, they can rule over a bankrupt kingdom of muzzies.

They will be the last king and queen of England, you can bank on it.

Posted by: Ben at November 16, 2010 05:00 AM (wuv1c)

53

one-of-a-kind hybrid car stored at the site, a fire official said Monday.

Irony can be pretty ironic sometimes.

Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE

Storing a home-made combustible in a museum. Who'd have thought?

Posted by: Sherlock Holmes at November 16, 2010 05:01 AM (H+LJc)

54

I think Teh Bernank might be in for a reprive if we're in a deflationary period.  But since I'm not an econ whiz, what do I know?

Posted by: rdbrewer at November 16, 2010 05:01 AM (FbPGy)

55 Speaking of "deflation" and Benake while reviewing the threads from yesterday I noticed that Ace had put one of my posts up in the main column responding to "gold" being the cause of many farmers losing their farms in the 30s:

Disagreement: Vic says that deflation had nothing to do with the wipeout of farmers in the 30s. That the bottom fell out of the market and they couldn't sell their crops for as much as it cost to grow them... but... that sort of sounds like a deflationary effect to me. [Ace]

My point wasn't that there was no "deflaton" in the 30s. My point was that the "gold standard" wasn't to blame for the framers losing their farms as someone had stated in a previous comment which Ace was also pointing out.

Crop prices had been abnormally high in the short period following WWI due to demand and loss of European farm products in the markets. That stopped in the 20s causing prices to fall. (Even before the "depression").

But also consider this; If the drop in crop prices was due to "deflation" wouldn't the cost of growing those crops also drop as the price of seed, fertilizer, etc dropped?

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2010 05:04 AM (/jbAw)

56 Neil Young: Yes, he is that stupid.

Posted by: eman at November 16, 2010 05:04 AM (0Ui1v)

57 Aww, Prince William and his lovely girlfriend, Kate Middleton are engaged.

The Queen's hypocrisy. Dianna HAD to be a virgin for royal slaughter. Katie's been sleeping with Prince Charming for six years, an evident safeguard for a warm family welcome from the Queen.


Posted by: Sherlock Holmes at November 16, 2010 05:05 AM (H+LJc)

58
 Election Stat. Post-Grads and those without high school degrees voted Democrat. Everyone Else voted Republican! EVERYONE!

--------------------------

Not that big a deal. In education-level demographics, Democrats are over-represented among drop-outs and post-grads. Republicans lead in everything in between. I remember researching that when a libtard co-worker trotted out the "Republicans are uneducated" meme. So everyone voted as they would be expected to according to party affiliation.

Posted by: schizuki at November 16, 2010 05:07 AM (M+lbD)

59 "Aww, Prince William and his lovely girlfriend, Kate Middleton are engaged. " Dear Old Dad will arrive at the wedding riding a carbon-neutral llama.

Posted by: eman at November 16, 2010 05:08 AM (0Ui1v)

60 parents are usually harder on their children than on their grandchildren .......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 16, 2010 05:08 AM (eOXTH)

61 What about the lag-time, vic?  They bought and got committed on loans and stuff months before they sold.

Posted by: rdbrewer at November 16, 2010 05:08 AM (FbPGy)

62

 To get the whole article I went to google news and searched for Fannie Mae Freddie Mac. The search will get you a Wall Street Journal link that will pull up the entire article.

Do I stand on my left or right foot while saying the incantation?

Posted by: Mama AJ at November 16, 2010 05:09 AM (XdlcF)

63 But also consider this; If the drop in crop prices was due to "deflation" wouldn't the cost of growing those crops also drop as the price of seed, fertilizer, etc dropped?

Timing Vic, timing.  If deflation occurs late in the growing cycle the farners are screwed.  Also remember that a crop in the essentially has no shelf life.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at November 16, 2010 05:11 AM (pqG40)

64

111 unions and other friends of Democrats get Obamacare waiver, including Sebelius' own Obamacare advocacy nonprofit

Posted by: Comrade Trumanski at November 16, 2010 07:37 AM (HLGCA)

 

Although I'm sure the MFM will ignore this the best they can this should be a top story

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 16, 2010 05:12 AM (1Jaio)

65

To get the whole article I went to google news and searched for Fannie Mae Freddie Mac. The search will get you a Wall Street Journal link that will pull up the entire article.

Do I stand on my left or right foot while saying the incantation?

Posted by: Mama AJ at November 16, 2010 09:09 AM (XdlcF)

You stand on your head.

And the article you get isn't worth the effort.

Posted by: Ed Anger at November 16, 2010 05:12 AM (7+pP9)

66
Timing Vic, timing.  If deflation occurs late in the growing cycle the farmers are screwed.  Also remember that a crop in the field essentially has no shelf life.

FIFM

Posted by: John P. Squibob at November 16, 2010 05:12 AM (pqG40)

67 My Grandfather lost his farm in Upstate NY in the early 30's. So did a lot of his neighbors. Demand collapses, prices nose-dive, income goes tits-up, bank says "Fuck you! Pay me!" Sure the costs of farming drop, too. But not fast enough, not in time.

Posted by: eman at November 16, 2010 05:13 AM (0Ui1v)

68 But also consider this; If the drop in crop prices was due to "deflation" wouldn't the cost of growing those crops also drop as the price of seed, fertilizer, etc dropped?

Consider timing. Farmer borrows to produce a bumper crop. Prices fall dramatically. Loans due. Dairymen produce milk, but milk prices fall below the cost paid to feed the dairy herd. Prices keep falling, so that given agricultural debt transactions can't be paid by subsequent harvests and production. Family farmers didn't have spare money to buy out failing farms. But Washingtonian investors did and made a killing, owning US and international agricultural production today, amalgamated with chemical engineering and food processing corporations.

Posted by: Sherlock Holmes at November 16, 2010 05:14 AM (H+LJc)

69

Because it has to be said...

That was a massacre by the Iggles.  28 points by the 1st quarter.  I should have just went home after that.

Michael Vic has great talent. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 16, 2010 08:47 AM (9hSKh)

 

He's definitely not doggin' it any more

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 16, 2010 05:14 AM (1Jaio)

70 hey, when Nancy Pelosi starts to fly commercial, will there be pix and video of the TSA guys giving her the once over..? Ugh, never mind.

Posted by: mallfly at November 16, 2010 05:14 AM (W6bJb)

71 Only 26% of public thinks Obama will be re-elected in 2012.

Is this before or after 20 million illegals get their voting rights?

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 16, 2010 05:16 AM (M6enm)

72 What about the lag-time, vic?  They bought and got committed on loans and stuff months before they sold.

Posted by: rdbrewer at November 16, 2010 09:08 AM (FbPGy)

The price drops had already occurred before they planted. That was part of the problem. They planted even more crops in an attempt to make up for price drops (and thus exposed even more soil to wind erosion per the author of that book I linked).

The problem was that the price drops were a continuing dynamic. They continued to drop even as they harvested the crop that ultimately became worth less than the cost of planting.

As a result, tons and tons of wheat sat in silos, and after they were full, actually on the ground rotting. In the long run because it could not be sold for any price on a glutted market it all went to waste.

And as I said yesterday, not all the lost farms were due to bank repo from bad loans. Some of the farmers had no open loans but they did have taxes owed that they could not afford to pay. Their farms were sold at sheriff's auctions for back taxes. 

That is something you never hear about in the media. There is one man in my old home town that became a millionaire during the depression buying up property for a song on back taxes.

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2010 05:19 AM (/jbAw)

73 Sure the costs of farming drop, too. But not fast enough, not in time. Posted by: eman

Exactly. The prices fell after farmers were already indebted, and continued to fall so as debts could not be paid.

Research would clarify whether the farmers had been encouraged to speculate and borrow (more than usual) by the Wall Street investment industry that would also encourage banks to loan. It wouldn't be a surprise.

Posted by: Sherlock Holmes at November 16, 2010 05:20 AM (H+LJc)

74 Hey hey, my my
My Rock and roll memorabilia can never die
There's more to the hybrid
Than meets the eye.
Hey hey, my my.

Posted by: Neil "Dipshit" Young at November 16, 2010 05:20 AM (GwPRU)

75 Hey all.  I was just over at HotAir and got a bunch of those weird "your computer might be in trouble" pop-ups.  They had virus problems before.  Not sure what happened is another bout, but I thought I'd let everyone know.

Posted by: Sukie Tawdry at November 16, 2010 05:20 AM (jbCcb)

76 Its here! It's here!!! Obama's New book!!!!! Ooooh, it's like Kwanzaa and Winter Solstice in November! Review and Excerpts From President Obama's New Book "Of Thee I Sing: A Letter To My Daughters"

Posted by: naturalfake at November 16, 2010 05:21 AM (I49Jm)

77 Family farmers didn't have spare money to buy out failing farms. But Washingtonian investors did and made a killing, owning US and international agricultural production today, amalgamated with chemical engineering and food processing corporations.

Exactly; FDR was actually a disaster for the family farm and yet farmers continued to support him for decades afterward. Such is the power of propaganda, especially when they created the FCC just to make sure that there was no competing message.

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2010 05:21 AM (/jbAw)

78 48 Flames began in a 1959 Lincoln Continental dubbed LincVolt, which runs on electric batteries and a biodiesel-powered generator...
--------------
Hah. He should have called it "Hammerhead-i Eagle Thrust."

Posted by: Jeremy Clarkson at November 16, 2010 05:22 AM (6fER6)

79

Just a heads up. I went over to HA and got one of those "Your computer is infected advertisements"

I know it's just  an ad, but I thought i would give you all a warning.

Posted by: Ben at November 16, 2010 05:22 AM (wuv1c)

80

77

Ha! wasn't just me. It's not a virus, it's an trick advertisement I believe.

Posted by: Ben at November 16, 2010 05:23 AM (wuv1c)

81 Just a heads up. I went over to HA and got one of those "Your computer is infected advertisements"

I hope you killed it in a hurry without clicking on anything. Otherwise in a short time your computer will be dead.

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2010 05:24 AM (/jbAw)

82 Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at November 16, 2010 08:54 AM (dcxBM)

Hahaha. Couldn't happen to a bigger douchebag.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 16, 2010 05:24 AM (WDYCv)

83 "Katie's been sleeping with Prince Charming for six years..."

Posted by: Sherlock Holmes at November 16, 2010 09:05 AM (H+LJc)

No shit, Sherlock.

But...why do you care?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at November 16, 2010 05:24 AM (LH6ir)

84 hey, when Nancy Pelosi starts to fly commercial, will there be pix and video of the TSA guys giving her the once over..? Ugh, never mind.

Never will happen.  I give you Article I, Section 6, Paragraph 1, Clause 2:

They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.

Pat downs and screen shots are not for the Legislative branch.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at November 16, 2010 05:25 AM (pqG40)

85 Ha! wasn't just me. It's not a virus, it's an trick advertisement I believe.

If it wanted you to agree to a "free scan" it is a trojan and it will take over your computer in short order.

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2010 05:25 AM (/jbAw)

86  Ben @ 81, yeah me too.  See #77.

Posted by: Sukie Tawdry at November 16, 2010 05:25 AM (jbCcb)

87 #71He's definitely not doggin' it any more

Heh.  Every time he scrambles I tell people that Vick's "running like the cops just found his dog-fighting ring". 

I don't have to like the man personally to admire his talent.  But his career might be cut short if he keeps taking hits like he does.  He must learn to emulate the McNabb slide. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 16, 2010 05:26 AM (9hSKh)

88 The Redskins game was infuriating.  Not only did it grind home (as if we needed it) the stupidity stupid of giving an old man a 5 year contract, but from the very start of the game it sounded like they were playing in Philadelphia.  I know there wasn't much for the (Skins) fans to cheer, but they could have at least proven they were there by booing.  Ugh. 


Good morning, morons. 

Posted by: Y-not at November 16, 2010 05:27 AM (UcOiF)

89 Those trojans ride in on Adobe Flash Player. If you don't enable that it will block 99% of them. Adblock and script block prevent the rest.

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2010 05:28 AM (/jbAw)

90 After leaving HA damned fast, I did a Quick scan (MS Essentials).  It didn't find anything.  Gonna do a full here in about 15 minutes.

Posted by: Sukie Tawdry at November 16, 2010 05:28 AM (jbCcb)

91 I like the One-Way Trip to Mars idea. The voyagers get to become the first Martians. Is there something wrong with living out your life on another planet?

Posted by: eman at November 16, 2010 05:29 AM (0Ui1v)

92 The price drops had already occurred before they planted. That was part of the problem. They planted even more crops in an attempt to make up for price drops (and thus exposed even more soil to wind erosion per the author of that book I linked).

And when every farmer planted even more crops the supply went up at harvest time and the price went down (Econ 101).  This is the unforunate problem with every farmer; they don't look beyond the end of their own field to see what everyone else is doing.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at November 16, 2010 05:29 AM (pqG40)

93 Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 16, 2010 09:26 AM (9hSKh)

He ran out of bounds a few times, rather than go for a few extra yards. That shows that he can be taught new tricks.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at November 16, 2010 05:29 AM (LH6ir)

94 hey, when Nancy Pelosi starts to fly commercial, broomstick

FIFY.

Posted by: nickless at November 16, 2010 05:29 AM (MMC8r)

95 102 days until spring training

Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 16, 2010 05:30 AM (eOXTH)

96 After leaving HA damned fast, I did a Quick scan (MS Essentials).

I found that most of the malware scanners would not detect the problem. Even Malwarebytes which is about the best out there when detecting it could not remove it.

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2010 05:31 AM (/jbAw)

97 Aww, Prince William and his lovely girlfriend, Kate Middleton are engaged

Looks like she finally 'forgot' to take her birth control....

Posted by: Alex at November 16, 2010 05:31 AM (yY28H)

98

This guy has a point.  We tend to take things that leaders in Europe say with a grain of salt.  Now may not be the time to be doing that.

http://tinyurl.com/2eu7s75

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at November 16, 2010 05:32 AM (RkRxq)

99 TSA preparing for Strip Searches?  And you thought Wicket was getting creepy.

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at November 16, 2010 05:32 AM (3WlaW)

100 Is there something wrong with living out your life on another planet?

Posted by: eman at November 16, 2010 09:29 AM (0Ui1v)

Not if your name is Barry, or whatever name he happens to be using at the moment.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at November 16, 2010 05:33 AM (RkRxq)

101 After reading the article on Dems crying over their lost seats, I wanted to take a rubber hose to those fuckers.  You do your service, and then you move on.  This is why we need term limits, because the fuckers start acting like it's a career that they've just lost.  Either that, or we need to start randomly drafting people to be representatives.

Posted by: Alex at November 16, 2010 05:34 AM (yY28H)

102

Ha! wasn't just me. It's not a virus, it's an trick advertisement I believe.

If it wanted you to agree to a "free scan" it is a trojan and it will take over your computer in short order.

I didn't. I've seen these before.  Isn't HA owned by Townhall now? shouldn't they be spending the money to prevent this garbage?

Posted by: Ben at November 16, 2010 05:34 AM (wuv1c)

103 That is something you never hear about in the media. There is one man in my old home town that became a millionaire during the depression buying up property for a song on back taxes.

 That, too. "Nice work if you can get it. And you can get it. And if you get it,  tell me how." Amity Shlaes documented that those with money made out like pirates during the '30s Great Depression of unemployment.

Our nation's present economic circumstance more closely resembles the fallen Confederacy of the South circumstances than Era of Depression following 1929. The US Government and Federal Reserve are bankrupt, and the carpetbaggers who absconded with our Treasury are coming home to roost.

Posted by: Sherlock Holmes at November 16, 2010 05:35 AM (H+LJc)

104 Etheridge has a job waiting for him at TSA. 

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 16, 2010 05:35 AM (8lCJT)

105 Is there something wrong with living out your life on another planet?

Posted by: eman at November 16, 2010 09:29 AM

Depends on how long.

Posted by: rdbrewer at November 16, 2010 05:36 AM (FbPGy)

106

I didn't. I've seen these before.  Isn't HA owned by Townhall now? shouldn't they be spending the money to prevent this garbage?

Posted by: Ben at November 16, 2010 09:34 AM (wuv1c)

They can't because the hackers come on and actually ride in on the ad without any knowledge or aid from the site. 

When it hit me it hit on IE-8 here at this site. Since then I have been running FF with adblock and noscript and flash player not loaded.

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2010 05:37 AM (/jbAw)

107 This is the unforunate problem with every farmer; they don't look beyond the end of their own field to see what everyone else is doing.
Posted by: John P. Squibob

WAS the problem of farmers pre-FDR tax funded subsidies paid to NOT grow crops.

Posted by: Sherlock Holmes at November 16, 2010 05:37 AM (H+LJc)

108 When I was at HA, I got a "Are you sure you want to navigate away from this page?" warning box when I hit the back button.

Posted by: rdbrewer at November 16, 2010 05:37 AM (FbPGy)

109 Hey Neil, there's this thing out there.  It's called automatic sprinklers.  Contrary to what your Hollywood friends portray on the screen or on the tube you can design one that doesn't operate every head in the building.

'Course it also makes sense to compartmentalize the warehouse and separate the high hazards (that car with the one-of-a-kind energy source) from the rest.

You'd think a guy with that much $$ would hire someone who knew better.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at November 16, 2010 05:38 AM (pqG40)

110 Amity Shlaes documented that those with money made out like pirates during the '30s Great Depression of unemployment.

That was another outstanding book. Thoroughly debunks the MFM worship of FDR and the great myth of how he saved the country.

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2010 05:38 AM (/jbAw)

111

My Norton 360 seems to keep things from getting too bad.  Does a pretty good job.

But.  I have to keep my eye out in a common sense way for browser hijackers and stuff.  And I usually ctl,alt,del and shut down a window when weird shit-fu starts happening.  And then run scans.

So maybe it's good software and good precautionary practices.

Posted by: rdbrewer at November 16, 2010 05:40 AM (FbPGy)

112 107, I agree. I think the chances of growing old there are good.

Posted by: eman at November 16, 2010 05:40 AM (0Ui1v)

113 I've fallen and can't get it up!

Posted by: Albert Haynesworthless at November 16, 2010 05:41 AM (6SGWt)

114 42:  That is certainly not the same half-assed quarterback he was three or four years ago.  I think the time away may have done him some good; he actually plays like a quarterback now.  Add that to his obvious gifts, and we have a very good QB on our hands.

Whether this constitutes redemption or not, I leave to individual judgment.

Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at November 16, 2010 05:41 AM (GBXon)

115 I like the One-Way Trip to Mars idea.

The voyagers get to become the first Martians.

Posted by: eman at November 16, 2010 09:29 AM (0Ui1v)

It's great - assuming we ship off the Libtards as the first colonists.  Cuz whoever goes on that crazy suicide mission is a dead duck.  Besides - who would want to leave a fairly nice planet to settle on a frigid, nearly-airless red rock and slave away on a terraforming project they will never see come to anything?  It's madness.

Posted by: Reactionary at November 16, 2010 05:41 AM (xUM1Q)

116

When I was at HA, I got a "Are you sure you want to navigate away from this page?" warning box when I hit the back button.

i hit the X

It you click "ok" then i think you're screwed. I'm running a full norton 360 scan to be sure.

I just wanted to give everyone a heads up because I know that the HQ readers also check out HA

Posted by: Ben at November 16, 2010 05:45 AM (wuv1c)

117 Alex - I'm not sure which is worse, those that think a political seat is a career, or those who think it is a birthright,

Posted by: MCPO Airdale at November 16, 2010 05:45 AM (SsNRK)

118 117, Madness? It's madness to waste your life in a cubicle. It would be a great adventure. We should have spent the last 30 years dropping pallets of supplies and equipment on Mars. It won't rot.

Posted by: eman at November 16, 2010 05:46 AM (0Ui1v)

119 Reactionary - were you the guy yelling "go west, young man", or was that your Dad. Imagine how pissed the liberals will be if it is a wealthy, non-PC group that does this - Mormons or Boers?

Posted by: Jean at November 16, 2010 05:46 AM (Ja6pC)

120 What X, Ben?  I just closed out the tab, but not the window.

Posted by: rdbrewer at November 16, 2010 05:46 AM (FbPGy)

121

It's great - assuming we ship off the Libtards as the first colonists.  Cuz whoever goes on that crazy suicide mission is a dead duck.  Besides - who would want to leave a fairly nice planet to settle on a frigid, nearly-airless red rock and slave away on a terraforming project they will never see come to anything?  It's madness.

it certainly will be different from the first settlers in America. They came with the hopes of bettering their own lives. These people will have to suffer to make a better life for mankind. It would be tough, but I am sure there will be a lot of intellegent volunteers. It will be one way to get your name into the history books.

Posted by: Ben at November 16, 2010 05:46 AM (wuv1c)

122 But...why do you care?
Posted by: CharlieBrown

Who said anything about caring? You.

It's mere observation to note the Queen's acceptance of marriage choices by her heirs contrasting with her disdain for what she has arranged herself. Her royal preference is inconsistent.

Posted by: Sherlock Holmes at November 16, 2010 05:47 AM (H+LJc)

123

What X, Ben?  I just closed out the tab, but not the window.

The pop up comes up and asks you if you want to navigate away. Your options are "Ok" "Cancel" or the X at the top right of the popup.

I am guessing cancel and "x" end up with the same result.

Posted by: Ben at November 16, 2010 05:48 AM (wuv1c)

124 If I got a land grant, like William Penn, did I would consider it. Not sure my wife would like the idea.

Posted by: Jean at November 16, 2010 05:48 AM (Ja6pC)

125 Are any of you folks who are having the troubles with HA on Macs?  I haven't had any problems there, but I'm on a Mac running Firefox.

Posted by: Y-not at November 16, 2010 05:48 AM (UcOiF)

126 Deflation also affects real estate, which means mortgages will be even further underwater.

Posted by: Korla Pundit at November 16, 2010 05:49 AM (FHlAi)

127

If I got a land grant, like William Penn, did I would consider it. Not sure my wife would like the idea

she told me she wanted you to go....for mankind's sake.

 

Also, she said be sure to leave the credit cards back on earth

Posted by: Ben at November 16, 2010 05:49 AM (wuv1c)

128 Now, a musical interlude. Wilson Pickett - Mustang Sally.

http://tinyurl.com/23qbdy5

Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at November 16, 2010 05:49 AM (PWj+8)

129 I would just like to see a demographic breakdown on those subjected to TSA searches.

Posted by: nickless at November 16, 2010 05:51 AM (MMC8r)

130 127, Sorry, can't help you. I have a Mac, but do not go to HA anymore. Me no like Allahpullsit and Puff Baldy.

Posted by: eman at November 16, 2010 05:51 AM (0Ui1v)

131 #120  It would be a great adventure. We should have spent the last 30 years dropping pallets of supplies and equipment on Mars.

The aliens residing underneath the surface of Mars might not appreciate that, .  But I like your sentiment. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 16, 2010 05:53 AM (9hSKh)

132 Madness? It's madness to waste your life in a cubicle.

Posted by: eman at November 16, 2010 09:46 AM (0Ui1v)

You make a fair point.  But I contend that it would only be a great adventure for the first few years (at most).  Then the dreary inside of the hermetically sealed cave dwelling would start to look all too familiar pretty quick.  Talk about cabin fever...  Anyway, I have no faith that anybody is able to adequately plan for all the contingencies.  Things would go wrong, and there would be nobody to help.  Just getting to the moon for a short stay and back again was a damn near-run thing.

Imagine how pissed the liberals will be if it is a wealthy, non-PC group that does this - Mormons or Boers?

Posted by: Jean at November 16, 2010 09:46 AM (Ja6pC)

When I was younger I fantasized about that.  I've been a sci-fi fan since I was a kid.  I'd love to found colony on some new world where muslims and libtards were nowhere to be found.  BUT I would do so on a world that isn't utterly hostile to life.  Not some dusty, lifeless rock. 

Besides - as soon as the pioneers made Mars nice, you just know that the vermin from Earth would follow to make it suck just as much as our own dear planet.

Posted by: Reactionary at November 16, 2010 05:53 AM (xUM1Q)

133 Libtards wouldn't go.  They wouldn't want to spread man's eeeeeevil pollutin' and climate-changin' ways to another planet.

I'm not joking.

In any event, they lack the do-for-yourself spirit needed to be pioneers anywhere.  The moment something went wrong, with support two years away, they'd all be toast.  Which may have its own merits, but doesn't help the colonization process.

Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at November 16, 2010 05:54 AM (GBXon)

134

Even though the reviews from the MFM amount to condemnation by slight praise, Sarah Palin's Alaska ruled in the ratings.

Keith Owhatslivinginmyface hardest hit.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at November 16, 2010 05:55 AM (RkRxq)

135 @132
I think it's a very good news feed. 

I find Ed more annoying than Allah at this point... especially if you avoid the comment threads on Allah's eye-poking posts (the Palin ones, the religion ones especially).  Ed, on the other hand, seems to have gone completely of the deep end... kind of a Libertarian, but one with brain damage.  I wonder if he's smoking dope.

Posted by: Y-not at November 16, 2010 05:55 AM (UcOiF)

136 The aliens residing underneath the surface of Mars might not appreciate that, .  But I like your sentiment. 
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 16, 2010 09:53 AM


Just deny them your essence and keep track of your precious bodily fluids.

Posted by: jcjimi at November 16, 2010 05:56 AM (iNILr)

137 Posted by: Sherlock Holmes at November 16, 2010 09:47 AM (H+LJc)

But...why do you care?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ( NJConservative) at November 16, 2010 06:00 AM (LH6ir)

138

The key to survival on Mars is interbreeding with the martian women.

However, in all seriousness, we do have to eventually colonize Mars. It is inevitable. We can't have all our eggs in one basket here on earth if we plan on existing tens of thousands of years into the future.

Posted by: Ben at November 16, 2010 06:00 AM (wuv1c)

139 The aliens residing underneath the surface of Mars might not appreciate that, .  But I like your sentiment.

No worries.  I have an agreement with the Jovian gasbags to provide close air support, if it goes pear-shaped.  They made good use of the radioactives from the Galileo probe, believe you me.

Posted by: DarkLordOfTheIntarWebs at November 16, 2010 06:00 AM (GBXon)

140 Reactionary - you can't plan for everything, and a lot of them will die. Just like our western pioneers. If you try and cover all contingencies and have a safety line home -- then the costs become prohibitive and no one goes. Imagine the furor if the Mormons fund Utah State to pop a rocket to Venus with terraforming bacteria on board?

Posted by: Jean at November 16, 2010 06:01 AM (Ja6pC)

141 134, Sure, cabin fever and far-away help could get tricky. That's why your goals is to keep improving self-sufficiency. More and bigger shelters. One good thing is once you have your greenhouses going you can overproduce on food all you want. Just toss it outside and it gets freeze-dried for free.

Posted by: eman at November 16, 2010 06:01 AM (0Ui1v)

142

rdbrewer. I noticed you link about the TSA now opening an investigation on the guy who didn't want his junk touched.

It is so needlessly punitive. They are clearly pissed he is going on TV and doing interviews. This reeks of a creeping police state.

Posted by: Ben at November 16, 2010 06:02 AM (wuv1c)

143

Bitter clingers bitterly (and fruitlessly it would appear) cling to their country:

http://tinyurl.com/23py8d9

 

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at November 16, 2010 06:04 AM (RkRxq)

144 @114
I hope the ACLU, which has already come out against the scanners and pat downs, steps up and defends this guy. 

Posted by: Y-not at November 16, 2010 06:05 AM (UcOiF)

145 Exactly; FDR was actually a disaster for the family farm and yet farmers continued to support him for decades afterward. Such is the power of propaganda, especially when they created the FCC just to make sure that there was no competing message.

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2010 09:21 AM (/jbAw)

That just reminded me of a family that lived in the "patch" of a former coal-mining community in PA, where I grew up.  My mother recently mention that this bunch had a pix of FDR hanging in their house.  All that "compassion" he showed with his social programs went a long way with them.  They've voted dem ever since.

Posted by: RushBabe at November 16, 2010 06:05 AM (a3Z62)

146 Reactionary - you can't plan for everything, and a lot of them will die. Just like our western pioneers.

Oregon Trail III:  The Spacening

Posted by: nickless at November 16, 2010 06:05 AM (MMC8r)

147 Ugh... that was to @144

Posted by: Y-not at November 16, 2010 06:05 AM (UcOiF)

148 Reactionary - you can't plan for everything, and a lot of them will die. Just like our western pioneers. Oregon Trail III: The Spacening Posted by: nickless At least there ain't no buzzards to et ya.

Posted by: eman at November 16, 2010 06:07 AM (0Ui1v)

149

Come on, Barry!  They weren't as vain, radical or incompetent as you, but they did it!

http://tinyurl.com/39tfnfv

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at November 16, 2010 06:07 AM (RkRxq)

150  @114
I hope the ACLU, which has already come out against the scanners and pat downs, steps up and defends this guy. 

they can't. He's white

Posted by: Ben at November 16, 2010 06:10 AM (wuv1c)

151 That just reminded me of a family that lived in the "patch" of a former coal-mining community in PA, where I grew up.  My mother recently mention that this bunch had a pix of FDR hanging in their house.  All that "compassion" he showed with his social programs went a long way with them.  They've voted dem ever since.

One (among many) of the things I learned from reading Shlaes' book was that FDR was a pioneer in the application of the now time honored Dem divide and conquer technique of identifying and pandering to special interest groups.

Posted by: NM Hick at November 16, 2010 06:10 AM (ROwve)

152 they can't. He's white

Even worse... I think he's a hunter (wasn't he headed off to pheasant hunt?). 

Posted by: Y-not at November 16, 2010 06:11 AM (UcOiF)

153

You're not thinking 3-dimensionally. Which states that voted for McCain do you think Obama could flip in 2012? From my point opf view, a big fat zero. On the other hand, there are several states that went to Obama that could easily go back to the Pub, depending on who it is.....Ohio and Wisconsin off the top of my head, probably Virginia as well. While I was happy PA went red last electiion, the Philly fraud machine will be out in full force to try to save Obama, so I doubt we go red again. NH could go.

I wouldn't go around coronating King Barry II just yet.

Posted by: Luca Brasi at November 16, 2010 06:13 AM (YmPwQ)

154

Posted by: Y-not at November 16, 2010 10:11 AM (UcOiF)

Maybe he should say he's a neo-Nazi, and was planning a march against Jews.

That should do the trick.

Posted by: HH at November 16, 2010 06:14 AM (6oDXl)

155

Where were these farmers living, the ones having bumper crops in the 1930's?

In the midwest, starting in 1930 and lasting almost a decade, we were having the Great Dust Bowl.

Posted by: highlander 707 at November 16, 2010 06:14 AM (74QJW)

156 Instead of the TSA how about a message to the World that says "Bother us Again with this Terrorist Shit and we nuke Mecca"?

Posted by: eman at November 16, 2010 06:15 AM (0Ui1v)

157 I like the One-Way Trip to Mars idea.

The voyagers get to become the first Martians.

Is there something wrong with living out your life on another planet?

--------------------------

We evolved over billions of years to be adapted to 1-G gravity and a 24-hour day. I shudder to think of the long-term consequences of fucked-up circadian rhythms and 1/3-G gravity.

What would pregnancy be like? How would child development be affected? There's a lot more to worry about than just air and water.

Maybe if enough people survived then in a hundred generations or so the Martian colonists would evolve into healthy, super-skinny ten-foot-tall people. I'm just not sure if they can make it that far.

Anybody with knowledge of these issues want to set me straight?

 

Posted by: schizuki at November 16, 2010 06:16 AM (M+lbD)

158 159, All good questions. Only one way to find out.

Posted by: eman at November 16, 2010 06:18 AM (0Ui1v)

159 If we go to Mars can we send a load of reporters with them? It IS a one way trip right?

Posted by: wrg at November 16, 2010 06:19 AM (mB2ub)

160 schizuki - thats what the radiation is for, speeds up natural selection a little. In reality the adaptions would take much longer as the gene pool would be getting diluted by new arrivals, esp. as success dictates and technology improves.

Posted by: Jean at November 16, 2010 06:20 AM (Ja6pC)

161 M Snodgrass's mars books were a good read.

Posted by: Jean at November 16, 2010 06:21 AM (HKVGZ)

162

rdbrewer. I noticed you link about the TSA now opening an investigation on the guy who didn't want his junk touched.

It is so needlessly punitive. They are clearly pissed he is going on TV and doing interviews. This reeks of a creeping police state.

Posted by: Ben at November 16, 2010 10:02 AM

It does seem silly and retaliatory.  But that's what bureaucrats are for.  Dirtbags exercising power in a petty fashion to show you who's boss.

Posted by: Obama at November 16, 2010 06:29 AM (FbPGy)

163 159, They'll have to install a centrifuge for pregnant gals. And when they are about to give birth you open the hatch underneath and crank that sucker to 11.

Posted by: eman at November 16, 2010 06:29 AM (0Ui1v)

164 Big reason many farmers went under, and I am saying this on the basis from coming from a 5th generation Texas farm and ranch family.  When the banks went under in many rural areas their savings were wiped out. My grandmothers dad lost everything, she blamed the Republicans till the day she died.

Posted by: beerologist at November 16, 2010 06:29 AM (47crF)

165

In the midwest, starting in 1930 and lasting almost a decade, we were having the Great Dust Bowl.

Posted by: highlander 707 at November 16, 2010 10:14 AM (74QJW)

If you read that book I linked you will see that the author blamed the dust bowl on those bumper crops. What happened was that they plowed up more and more land trying to offset the plunge in prices.

When the crops became of such low value that they could not be sold they simply abandoned the fields . With the return of the normal "summer drought" in those panhandle regions the soil in those abandoned fields literally blowed away.

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2010 06:29 AM (/jbAw)

166

Irony can be pretty ironic sometimes.

Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at November 16, 2010 08:54 AM (dcxBM)

Rust never sleeps.

Posted by: Bill H at November 16, 2010 06:30 AM (q8CmE)

167 We need to use Mars for target practice.  We could do our plinking there. 

Posted by: rdbrewer at November 16, 2010 06:31 AM (FbPGy)

168 My grandmothers dad lost everything, she blamed the Republicans till the day she died.

Posted by: beerologist at November 16, 2010 10:29 AM (47crF)

Like I said, that Dem propaganda was a powerful thing. Like today, the Dems were more responsible for the banks going under than anyone.

In fact, I would say that the government and the federal reserve/central banks have been responsible for every major economic disaster since the central banks were founded.

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2010 06:32 AM (/jbAw)

169 Are any of you folks who are having the troubles with HA on Macs?  I haven't had any problems there, but I'm on a Mac running Firefox.
Posted by: Y-not at November 16, 2010 09:48 AM

FF's ad blocker seems to keep TepidAir's nasties away from my PC.

The pop-ups warning of "Squish Alerts" every time "Poppin' Fresh" goes into full anal-yst mode or Allahpander drops another Palin snark-turd are damn annoying, though.

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 16, 2010 06:33 AM (Ulu3i)

170 You know what Napolitano's doing this morning?  She's melting the ears off that TSA guy who started the probe in a double-secret emergency call.

Posted by: rdbrewer at November 16, 2010 06:33 AM (FbPGy)

171 BTW, my wife's grandparents were among those "pioneers" who moved to the panhandle region of Texas in the early 1900s to take advantage of that federal land for farming.

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2010 06:34 AM (/jbAw)

172 This TSA thing has me steaming.  It's being defended under the grounds that I don't have a "right" to fly. 

Excuse me?  But I thought that I start out with the rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness and the government had to show a compelling reason to infringe on those rights. 

Posted by: Y-not at November 16, 2010 06:34 AM (UcOiF)

173 Old man sitting by the side of the road
Your car burned down your warehouse...

Posted by: SurferDoc at November 16, 2010 06:34 AM (RKpGM)

174 A couple of news outlets are reporting that the public won't have much chance to invest in GM's IPO.

Instead, the big Wall Street firms that got mucho dinero from gubmint bailouts, women- and minority-owned brokerages, and a Chinese company will get the lion's share of the new stock.

Never mind that our money kept GM from tanking, and our money was used to "repay" some of the money GM "borrowed."

Another great move from the Osama Obama regime!

Not that I would have been interested, even if I had some spare change to invest. GM stock doesn't impress me as a prudent buy in any case. Still, it's another slap in the face among many slaps we've endured from the Financial Friends of the Mohammedan Mouthpiece.

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 16, 2010 06:38 AM (Ulu3i)

175

Beck's reading notices from electric companies that serve NY and PA that say rates are going up 30% in January.  Raw cotton has hit an all-time high and clothing prices will reflect the spike most likely when spring/summer stuff comes out.  If you have little Morons, buy ahead.  Years ahead.

Yesterday, he read from CPUSA material that listed Missoula, Montana as the home of the party and the news that they weresuccessful in getting their candidates selected in three states they were targeting (one was Rhode Island.  I think the others were Minnesota and South Dakota).  The elected folks are all on city councils.  If the rugged individualists in the western states allow the CPUSA to get a foothold, we're done.   

As for the good news, he's playing audio of various radical groups across the country spouting little gems like, "If you can't open their minds, open their heads."  There are lots of different factions that want control and only one will win.  So, all the commie, noe-nazi groups will take out the extreme muzzies and we'll only have a fraction of the work to do.  So see?  It's all good.

Posted by: RushBabe at November 16, 2010 06:40 AM (a3Z62)

176 It looks like Bank of Amer. CEO took his customer service training from Obama:

Bank of America Corp. Chief Executive Officer Brian T. Moynihan said resolving investor demands for refunds over faulty mortgages is turning into a battle that will last at least several more quarters. “It’s a day-to-day, hand-to-hand combat,” Moynihan said today during a conference held by the lender in New York.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at November 16, 2010 06:41 AM (JcRgg)

177

167

I can't get my mind to wrap around the idea of less demand and the fact that the midwest, the bread basket of the world was under multiple feet of dirt, and people were starving. 

Guess I'll go to the bookstore.

Posted by: highlander 707 at November 16, 2010 06:42 AM (74QJW)

178 ps - I think in 1930's the gold standard was one of the main reasons for the deflation, and it was planned, and the money/power brokers got a lot of farm land for pennies on the dollar.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at November 16, 2010 06:44 AM (JcRgg)

179

@157, dust bowl conditions began in the early 20's. In fact there was a farm depression thoughout the 1920's, with several causes, cited above, and it is possible to argue that worldwide farm economic conditions were as big a contributing factor to the depression as capital issues in finance and industry--which Vic is doing, at least in part. That said, the "Great" dust bowl was limited in scope, if not in notoriety. Ohio, Indiana and Illinois were unaffected except for the color of the sunsets.

Let's not underestimate the influence of new, and obviously manipulated, government data on crop yieids and futures in that period. They are having a huge impact this year as well. It would be interesting to contrast private forecasts and reports with the official federal figures throughout the era of federal farm policy--and then compare that to the Soviets, who we were copying in so many things back then. Any of you young ag econ guys looking for your Eagle Scout project?

 

Posted by: comatus at November 16, 2010 06:45 AM (hrwMe)

180 Fall photos... gosh, I do miss fall living here in Mexico City. You all can keep driving in snow, however.

Posted by: Leigh T at November 16, 2010 06:46 AM (quCH6)

181 Yesterday, he read from CPUSA material that listed Missoula, Montana as the home of the party...
...
...If the rugged individualists in the western states allow the CPUSA to get a foothold, we're done.

Unfortunately, the university towns (like Missoula) in those western states are filled with the product of our public education libtard mills. That's all they need to get their foot in the door.

Posted by: NM Hick at November 16, 2010 06:48 AM (ROwve)

182 highlander 707

if you ever have a couple of hours, watch this.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at November 16, 2010 06:51 AM (JcRgg)

183

@183 never forget that William Jennings Bryan was from Nebraska.

 

Posted by: comatus at November 16, 2010 06:51 AM (hrwMe)

184 Ace, found this at Linkiest...good stuff.  http://tinyurl.com/2eyr9cc

Posted by: JayinAZ at November 16, 2010 06:52 AM (WKg4v)

185

Guess I'll go to the bookstore.

Posted by: highlander 707 at November 16, 2010 10:42 AM (74QJW)

I got the book from the library, free. Now that's real "deflation".

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2010 06:52 AM (/jbAw)

186

Y-not, that's why I'm bulldogging the issue so much.  I think it's one of the most outrageous things our government has ever done.

Posted by: rdbrewer at November 16, 2010 06:56 AM (FbPGy)

187

My family lost the MacLaurence General Store in the mid 30's.  Extending credit, giving stuff away, because of the dust storms, in the 1930's, in Knsas.

Posted by: highlander 707 at November 16, 2010 06:57 AM (74QJW)

188 Ah, books are there for the owning.  Except paperbacks.

Posted by: highlander 707 at November 16, 2010 07:00 AM (74QJW)

189

Guy Fawkes

Thanks.  I will make the time!

Posted by: highlander 707 at November 16, 2010 07:02 AM (74QJW)

190

Yes, and my one grandfather lost his ass growing onions in Michigan in the 20's. Tough country, ain't it. Had to take a job at a refinery. He considered it quite a step down, but it worked out for him in the long run.

The other grandfather prospered in his coal business despite hundreds of uncollectable accounts, then had all three sons drafted by a Democrat competitor on the draft board, all of whose family got defense deferments for shoveling coal. That's the way it goes.

Posted by: comatus at November 16, 2010 07:05 AM (hrwMe)

Posted by: Kennedy Cuomo Dingell Bush Clinton III at November 16, 2010 07:18 AM (A/iZj)

192

However, in all seriousness, we do have to eventually colonize Mars. It is inevitable. We can't have all our eggs in one basket here on earth if we plan on existing tens of thousands of years into the future.

Posted by: Ben at November 16, 2010 10:00 AM (wuv1c)

Bah.  All things come to an end, including man.  Perpetuating man kind for its own sake is not a goal that I find worthy of my time and effort.  If I had kids or grand kids (heaven forbid) and the earth was at risk of imminent destruction, then maybe.  But 10K+ years from now every record of my existence will be long since erased and gone.  None of us, nor even our great-great-grandchildren would ever see an iota of benefit from any Mars project, unless they were working for the low-bid contractor for rockets and bacteria and MRE's or whatever.  For the cost of going to Mars we could purge America of Muslims.  Now that's an investment I'd be willing to make.

Posted by: Reactionary at November 16, 2010 07:20 AM (xUM1Q)

Posted by: HeatherRadish at November 16, 2010 07:23 AM (A/iZj)

194 My point was the 1930's darling, didn't mean to sound like I was pissing and moaning.

Posted by: highlander 707 at November 16, 2010 07:24 AM (74QJW)

195 Somedays, this is what I think:
Bank of America, Wells Fargo and Morgan Stanley (and maybe a few other large financial firms) should all have their corporate license revoked, their assets seized and only pay any investors back after the depositors are paid.
They are, were and still are extorting millions out of their customers and the taxpayers.
Just like the 1930's, this is an engineered crisis that they put in motion in September of 2008 to drive out their competition, destroy everyone else's assets and steal billions of dollars.
Socialist, communist? I don't think so. Compared to the GDP of the nations of the 1930's, these are small countries. Small, aggressive, coercive and lawless countries. The only laws they comply with are the ones they feel like following. Many of the large financial firms are enemy nations, existing both within and without our borders.

Posted by: Jimmuy at November 16, 2010 07:46 AM (ImAna)

196

Jimmuy

Want to get even more pissed at banks?  Go up to Guy Fawkes link on 184.

Posted by: highlander 707 at November 16, 2010 07:51 AM (74QJW)

197

When I was younger I fantasized about that.  I've been a sci-fi fan since I was a kid.  I'd love to found colony on some new world where muslims and libtards were nowhere to be found.  BUT I would do so on a world that isn't utterly hostile to life.  Not some dusty, lifeless rock. 

Besides - as soon as the pioneers made Mars nice, you just know that the vermin from Earth would follow to make it suck just as much as our own dear planet.

Posted by: Reactionary at November 16, 2010 09:53 AM (xUM1Q)

There's a pretty funny SF story about a guy who gets hired to test out a new planet for colonization. Instead of Dash Starflight, galactic hero, they found the clumsiest, most hard luck guy they could find under the premise that if he could make it, anyone could.

They even gave him a robot buddy programmed to compensate for any self improvement he made during the testing time by making mistakes and causing accidents itself.


Posted by: Oldcat at November 16, 2010 08:44 AM (z1N6a)

198 Maybe if enough people survived then in a hundred generations or so the Martian colonists would evolve into healthy, super-skinny ten-foot-tall people. I'm just not sure if they can make it that far.

Anybody with knowledge of these issues want to set me straight?
 

Posted by: schizuki at November 16, 2010 10:16 AM (M+lbD)

That's crazy talk. We are small, green, and have little antennae.

Posted by: Martian Colonist at November 16, 2010 08:47 AM (z1N6a)

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