December 14, 2010

Top Headline Comments 12-14-10
— Gabriel Malor

Of course you should fight fire with fire. You should fight everything with fire.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 02:55 AM | Comments (213)
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1 Heh, heh...he said fire..heh-heh!!!...FIIIIIIRRRRREEEEEEEE!

Posted by: Beavis at December 14, 2010 02:57 AM (5qJM5)

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 14, 2010 03:14 AM (TpXEI)

3 28 degrees on the Gulf Coast this morning.

Posted by: toby928™ at December 14, 2010 03:21 AM (S5YRY)

4 Mittens and Palin come out against tax deal - no cover for you Mr. Obama.  Does this mean Sarah and Mitt are taking a short position on the economy for the next 2 years.

Posted by: Jean at December 14, 2010 03:23 AM (CPefM)

5 Ha Global Warming...it's Global Climate Terrorists, 9 deg. F in Southern Indiana

Posted by: Laughingmyasoff at December 14, 2010 03:27 AM (7B8/d)

6 Slightly OT.  Recvd this from a client:

Doctors vs. Gun Owners
Doctors
(A)  The number of physicians in the  U.S. is 700,000.
(B)  Accidental deaths caused by Physicians
per year are 120,000.
(C)  Accidental deaths per physician is 0.171.
Statistics courtesy of  U.S. Dept of Health  and  Human Services.

Now think about this:
Guns
(A)  The number of gun owners in the  U.S. is 80,000,000. (Yes, that's 80 million)
(B)  The number of accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups, is 1,500.
(C)  The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is .000188.
Statistics courtesy of FBI

So,  statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners. Remember, 'Guns don't kill people, doctors do.'

FACT:  NOT EVERYONE HAS A GUN, BUT almost everyone has at least one doctor. This means you are over 900 times more likely to be killed by a doctor as a gun owner!!!

Please alert your friends to this alarming threat. We must ban doctors before this gets completely out of hand!!!!!

Out of concern for the public at large, I withheld the statistics on Lawyers for fear the shock would cause people to panic and seek medical attention.

Posted by: Sukie Tawdry at December 14, 2010 03:33 AM (jbCcb)

7 "I will be happy to see the Republicans test whether or not I'm itching for a fight on a whole range of issues," Obama said last week. "I suspect they will find I am. And I think the American people will be on my side on a whole bunch of these fights."

Prince of Peace he ain't.

Posted by: maverick muse at December 14, 2010 03:34 AM (H+LJc)

8 He bets we're on "his side".

It never occurs to him to be on "our side".

Posted by: maverick muse at December 14, 2010 03:35 AM (H+LJc)

9 So,  statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners. Remember, 'Guns don't kill people, doctors do.'

FACT:  NOT EVERYONE HAS A GUN, BUT almost everyone has at least one doctor. This means you are over 900 times more likely to be killed by a doctor as a gun owner.

funny!

Posted by: maverick muse at December 14, 2010 03:37 AM (H+LJc)

10 Can we get some of that Global Warming down here in FL?  30 in Jax right now and we had wind chills in the teens.  Don't say it, I know, but look, it's fucking  F L O R I D A and I'm a pussy when it comes to cold weather.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at December 14, 2010 03:37 AM (fLHQe)

11 How in the hell do they enforce this?

December 13, 2010 8:49 AM |  SPRINGFIELD -- The state of Illinois wants residents to pay sales taxes on all of the gifts they buy. Online shoppers, this means you.

Illinoisans can often dodge sales taxes by shopping online, but the state is hoping to collect on those taxes next year by offering a sales tax amnesty.

A new law allows people who didn't pay sales tax on items bought online, through the mail or over the phone between June 20, 2004, and the end of 2010 to pay what they owe without penalty. The tax amnesty runs from Jan. 1 through Oct. 15.

Department of Revenue spokeswoman Sue Hofer tells the (Springfield) State Journal-Register that Illinois also plans to offer a more detailed worksheet on state income tax return forms to get taxpayers to pay up.


Posted by: Tami at December 14, 2010 03:38 AM (VuLos)

12 Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 14, 2010 07:14 AM (TpXEI)

LOL, he really is cranking up the rhetoric isn't he. He is in full campaign mode. He knows he can crank up the rhetoric because the Senate has already shit us, and there is no chance in the House.

Posted by: Vic at December 14, 2010 03:40 AM (e4sSD)

13 28 degrees on the Gulf Coast this morning.

Looks like it will bottom out at 16.9°F here.

Posted by: Vic at December 14, 2010 03:41 AM (e4sSD)

14 My favorite saying about doctors came from Willie Nelson;

But there's more old drunks
Than there are old doctors
So I guess I'd better have another round

Posted by: Vic at December 14, 2010 03:44 AM (e4sSD)

15 It never occurs to him to be on "our side".

Nice.

Posted by: toby928™ at December 14, 2010 03:46 AM (S5YRY)

16

Posted by: maverick muse at December 14, 2010 03:47 AM (H+LJc)

17 Posted by: Tami at December 14, 2010 07:38 AM (VuLos)

SC has been trying that scheme for decades and it hasn't worked yet.

So how are they going to force it? NC has a civil suit going in federal court to force Amazon the reveal its customer base and what they have ordered.

Posted by: Vic at December 14, 2010 03:47 AM (e4sSD)

18 Looks like it will bottom out at 16.9°F here.

I'll be up your way next week, in Greenwood.

I hope it's not freezin' ass then.

Posted by: toby928™ at December 14, 2010 03:47 AM (S5YRY)

19 How in the hell do they enforce this?

SELECTIVELY, of course. /Exemptions available at a price, you lose your soul.

Posted by: maverick muse at December 14, 2010 03:49 AM (H+LJc)

20 I'll be up your way next week, in Greenwood.

I hope it's not freezin' ass then.

Greenwood is over to the West in the mountains. It is colder there than it is here. They are expecting snow in a few days.

Posted by: Vic at December 14, 2010 03:51 AM (e4sSD)

21 @11  Illinois is sending a worksheet with tax forms to help you 'estimate' what you owe in sales taxes based on your  adjusted gross income(if you haven't been keeping track since 2004). So helpful!

It's pretty funny. I am sure all Illinoisians will pony up the dough, as they know the politicians will spend it so wisely..bwahaha.

Any IL citizen who lives on the border with, say, IA buys their gas in IA. It's quite a bit cheaper. And I am sure they will gladly send in the taxes owed on the petrol. 

Posted by: Lizabth at December 14, 2010 03:51 AM (JZBti)

22 force Amazon the reveal its customer base

...damned obvious where that road leads.

Of course, merchants do sell their customer information already (not credit, not legitimately anyway). So to be mandated to give it up would make them forfeit that particular source of income.

Posted by: maverick muse at December 14, 2010 03:52 AM (H+LJc)

23 Woohoo!  Good morning everyone!  Cliff Lee is back where he belongs--Philly!  He even turned down an extra 50 million dollars to go play for the Yankees!  It's going to be a great day! 

Posted by: runningrn at December 14, 2010 03:54 AM (ihSHD)

24 LOL, he really is cranking up the rhetoric isn't he. He is in full campaign mode. He knows he can crank up the rhetoric because the Senate has already shit us, and there is no chance in the House.

I find it fascinating that compromise with Obama in this situation is ruinous, but compromising with the MA legislature on Healthcare was the only thing he could do.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 14, 2010 03:55 AM (TpXEI)

25 Listen all! This is the truth of it. Fighting leads to killing, and killing gets to warring. And that was damn near the death of us all. Look at us now! Busted up, and everyone talking about hard rain! But we've learned, by the dust of them all... Bartertown learned. Now, when men get to fighting, it happens here! And it finishes here! Two men enter; one man leaves.

Posted by: Dr. Dealgood at December 14, 2010 03:56 AM (jShXB)

26 US Fish and Wildlife Service was planning to call the wolverine an endangered species. Not based on their numbers, which have increased, but based on speculation that climate change was destroying snow pack habitat.
Crazy fucking world.

Posted by: real joe at December 14, 2010 03:58 AM (w7Lv+)

27 US Fish and Wildlife Service was planning to call the wolverine an endangered species. Not based on their numbers, which have increased, but based on speculation that climate change was destroying snow pack habitat.

Yes, they are doing that with the seals in AK as well. This shows you the "quality" of so-called science in these departments. It also shows the quality of government regulation. I seem to recall having an argument with some of the Morons and Moronettes who were just fine with government regulation.

It is time to reign in these Obama assholes who are bypassing congress.

Zero budget in 2012.

Posted by: Vic at December 14, 2010 04:03 AM (e4sSD)

28 Yikes!  Why won't Michael Steele go away?  He's running again.  Sigh!

Posted by: runningrn at December 14, 2010 04:04 AM (ihSHD)

29

US Fish and Wildlife Service was planning to call the wolverine an endangered species. Not based on their numbers, which have increased, but based on speculation that climate change was destroying snow pack habitat.

See if you can spot the key words.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 14, 2010 04:06 AM (B+qrE)

30

Only about 40% of the population agrees with Obama on anything, like illegal immigration, CommunistCare, the Ground Zero Mosque amd his own approval rating. But he says, "...I think the American people will be on my side on a whole bunch of these fights."

I can't wait to hear the loud POP when someone finally uncorks Obama's head out of his ass. It will be deafening.

Posted by: CrustyB at December 14, 2010 04:07 AM (qzgbP)

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 14, 2010 04:07 AM (B+qrE)

32

Will somebody unplug Ruben Amaro's PS3?

I've seen video game rosters less rigged than the Phillies' rotation.

Posted by: The Q at December 14, 2010 04:10 AM (2dOeM)

33 Yikes!  Why won't Michael Steele go away?  He's running again.  Sigh!

"I will be happy to see the Republicans test whether or not I'm itching for a fight on a whole range of issues," Obama Steele announced. "I suspect they will find I am. And I think the Republican progressives will be on my side on a whole bunch of these fights."

He shares too much in common with Barry Obama.

Sorry, Mikey. The race and sympathy cards are gone.

Posted by: maverick muse at December 14, 2010 04:11 AM (H+LJc)

34

Republican progressives

I have no words.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 14, 2010 04:14 AM (B+qrE)

35 I can't wait to hear the loud POP when someone finally uncorks Obama's head out of his ass. It will be deafening.

Don't unplug what Willy Wonka owns.

Posted by: maverick muse at December 14, 2010 04:17 AM (H+LJc)

36 I know that Ace and the cob-loggers have no control over who advertises on the site, but man, it's plain weird to see a plug for Queef Olberdouche separating the post from the comments.

Posted by: The Q at December 14, 2010 04:17 AM (2dOeM)

37 A judicious application of truth in advertising laws would require the "No Labels" group to rename themselves "No Gonads". I'll toss is a slogan for them, gratis: "No Gonads - Be a part of one of the most eunuch groups in politics".

Posted by: ya2daup at December 14, 2010 04:19 AM (yRrAd)

38 I'll toss is a slogan for them, gratis: "No Gonads - Be a part of one of the most eunuch groups in politics".

And, "Dhimmi Up!"

Posted by: maverick muse at December 14, 2010 04:20 AM (H+LJc)

39 All I want for Christmas is MORE FUCKIN' PORK!

Posted by: Chuck Grassley at December 14, 2010 04:20 AM (VXBR1)

40 ello morons. Gemenoids looked great this morning, even here 40 miles east of Los Angeles. I was surprised the light pollution didn't overcome the meteor shower.

Posted by: CAC at December 14, 2010 04:20 AM (lV4Fs)

41 I think these "No Labels" bitches are paving the way for a Mike Bloombag presidential run.

Posted by: steevy at December 14, 2010 04:23 AM (BENX0)

42 As if an educated eggdicator, Michelle Obama wants her own golden goose, now! Give it to her. Now.

Posted by: maverick muse at December 14, 2010 04:24 AM (H+LJc)

43 You know, when I think about governing our great nation and what a delicious scam we've got going right now, always spending today and promising cuts in the future, well, it's almost enough to make a grown man cry. And speak in run-on sentences.

Posted by: John "Studly" Boehner at December 14, 2010 04:24 AM (VXBR1)

44

Posted by: maverick muse at December 14, 2010 07:47 AM (H+LJc)

That Holbrooke guy really could charm them.

Posted by: Ed Anger at December 14, 2010 04:27 AM (7+pP9)

45 Hey Vic, I-77 backed up 10 miles out of CLT.  Truck with frozen brakes stuck in road.

Posted by: Kemp at December 14, 2010 04:27 AM (JpFM9)

46 37 A judicious application of truth in advertising laws would require the "No Labels" group to rename themselves "No Gonads". I'll toss is a slogan for them, gratis: "No Gonads - Be a part of one of the most eunuch groups in politics".

If such laws could be applied to political parties and organizations, the Dems would have to rename themselves the Communist Party.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 14, 2010 04:29 AM (9hSKh)

47 you should fight fire with fire extinguisher

Posted by: torabora at December 14, 2010 04:29 AM (Xuvrd)

48 I found my thrill,
on Whitewater Hill

Posted by: Pootie Pootski at December 14, 2010 04:30 AM (GwPRU)

49

No Labels are leftards who also can't do math, still want to tell us what to do and look with contempt at everything in flyover country.

They just don't want to get their clothes dirty in political fights.  There is a word that begins with "p" that describes such people.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 14, 2010 04:35 AM (B+qrE)

50

I do feel sorry for you people in the South as far as temps are concerned. At least here in the Heartland we're used to it, and have the appropriate clothing. Heck, when I stepped outside of work an hour or so ago, I was thinking "heck, this isn't bad at all". And it's 20. But compared to the last couple of days, and with no wind, almost comfortable.

But again, I'm dressed for it.

Posted by: HH at December 14, 2010 04:35 AM (6oDXl)

51

I always thought you should throw wads of chewed gum at a fire.

*shamelessly stealing a Rifftrax reference*

Posted by: MWR at December 14, 2010 04:35 AM (4df7R)

52 This fiscal responsibility shtick has real potential and we Republicans are gonna ride it for all it's worth!

Posted by: Eric "Butch" Cantor at December 14, 2010 04:38 AM (VXBR1)

53 45 Yikes.  People down there aren't equipped for that stuff.  Need some alcohol for that truck.

Posted by: Hatchet Five at December 14, 2010 04:39 AM (QFpQb)

54 Best Buy is going in the pre-market trading shitter; down 11.80% thanks to a 5% Q3 revenue miss announcement.

Posted by: Annabelle at December 14, 2010 04:39 AM (Zeljq)

55 "Need some alcohol for that truck." You're a fine American.

Posted by: Chuck Grassley at December 14, 2010 04:40 AM (VXBR1)

56 From the "everybody's a victim" file:

Police: Man blames alcoholic energy drink for robbery

A man blamed his consumption of a controversial alcoholic energy drink as a reason he allegedly robbed a juvenile of $5 on a street corner, according to charges filed Monday.

Alan M. Kocher, 20, of Pace Street, Larksville, told police his drinking Four Loko alcoholic beverages contributed to the alleged robbery and assault at North Maple Avenue and Pringle Street on Nov. 12.

Police alleged Kocher and a juvenile, a 9th grade student at Wyoming Valley West, robbed and assaulted the juvenile.

Posted by: Ed Anger at December 14, 2010 04:41 AM (7+pP9)

57 "I will be happy to see the Republicans test whether or not I'm itching for a fight on a whole range of issues," Obama said last week. "I suspect they will find I am. And I think the American people will be on my side on a whole bunch of these fights."

Personally, sir, I expect you will fold like the cheap suit you inhabit. Hell, 'Chelle put the fear of God in you over a stupid Christmas party. Come clean, sir, did fear of what 'Chelle was going to do cause you wet yourself while waiting for an opportunity to skedaddle out of Friday's joint press conference with The First Black President?

Posted by: ya2daup at December 14, 2010 04:41 AM (yRrAd)

58 yeah...what's the deal with steele? fund raising was down under him.....people gave directly to the candidates they supported.....i will never give to the party again......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at December 14, 2010 04:41 AM (eOXTH)

59 ya2 i don't think his suits are cheap...his mom jeans yes..but his suits no

Posted by: phoenixgirl at December 14, 2010 04:42 AM (eOXTH)

60 Those wacky, liberal New York City residents; they're are all for allowing a mosque to be built near Ground Zero, but they're opposed to having a Walmart built anywhere in their city.

Posted by: Brian at December 14, 2010 04:43 AM (sYrWB)

61 Fucking wuss Matt Lauer giving this news this morning on Today Show:

"President Obama's
tax cut is moving through the Senate today."

Yeah.  HIS tax cut.

This is how the MFM will move his campaign for the next two years.

Posted by: Boris Yeltsin at December 14, 2010 04:43 AM (4sQwu)

62 We didnt start the fire!

http://www.youtube.com/user/LatmaTV#p/a/u/0/OmBLqfPOFVg

Posted by: Robert at December 14, 2010 04:44 AM (V+ylD)

63 CLIFF LEE! IS BACK! heh heh heh Christmas came early for us Phillies fans

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 14, 2010 04:45 AM (SB0V2)

64 Hey Vic, I-77 backed up 10 miles out of CLT.  Truck with frozen brakes stuck in road.

Posted by: Kemp at December 14, 2010 08:27 AM (JpFM9)

That's about par for the course on the freeways around here. Probably one of those Mexican trucks that got passed through.

Posted by: Vic at December 14, 2010 04:45 AM (e4sSD)

65 My chops amongst the simulated-lesbian bondage crowd are unprecedented.

Posted by: Mitch Steele at December 14, 2010 04:47 AM (GwPRU)

66

Endangered Sea Turtles Almost Killed By Globull Warming

People aren't the only ones struggling with the freezing weather. Thirteen cold-stunned sea turtles were brought to the S.C. Aquarium on Monday after being found shocked into a state similar to hypothermia by sea temperatures farther north that had dropped more quickly than the cold-blooded reptiles could handle.

Irony, thy name is Al Gore.

Posted by: Vic at December 14, 2010 04:48 AM (e4sSD)

67

 

I think the R's should walk away from the Tax deal.

 

Let the Clinton era tax hikes go back into effect.  Fuck the democrats.

 

Also ,that show the Nancy and her progressive communists put on - yeah a show.  a lie.

 

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at December 14, 2010 04:48 AM (0fzsA)

68 "President Obama's tax cut" is neither his nor a tax cut - it's an extension of the present tax rates..

Posted by: ya2daup at December 14, 2010 04:49 AM (yRrAd)

69

Well, it's 21 right now in the tidewater of VA and headed to 35, which is pleasant. Except for the  20 knot wind, gusting to 35 knots,  that killing me. Yeah, i was used to it in the midwest, but the moisture in the wind makes it worse.

Oh, and they are calling for snow thursday, saturday, and sunday.

Got to love me some globull warming.

Posted by: todler at December 14, 2010 04:50 AM (fPOY0)

70 "President Obama's tax cut is moving through the Senate today."

How is keeping the status quo a cut?  This is literally driving me batshit.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 14, 2010 04:51 AM (B+qrE)

71

 

I think it's imperative the R's let the tax deal die.  Walk away.

The D's are 100% responsible for The Clinton era tax hikes.

 

"The deal has several key features. It reduces payroll taxes, extends unemployment benefits and keeps current tax rates intact. So far, so good. But intermixed with the benefits are considerable costs of consequence. Given the unambiguous message that the American people sent to Washington in November, it is difficult to understand how our political leaders could have reached such a disappointing agreement. The new, more conservative Congress should reach a better solution."

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at December 14, 2010 04:52 AM (0fzsA)

72

CLIFF LEE!

IS BACK!

heh heh heh

Christmas came early for us Phillies fans

 

Not only that, but he dissed the Yankees (at a cost of 50 million dollars more!)  Heh!  When I read that this a.m., I knew today was going to be a beautiful day!

Posted by: runningrn at December 14, 2010 04:55 AM (ihSHD)

73

 

It doens't always happen , but I agree with Mitt Romey.

chop

"Of course, delay now is better than an immediate tax hike. But because the extension is only temporary, a large portion of the investment and job growth that characteristically accompanies low taxes will be lost. When entrepreneurs and employers make decisions to start or expand an enterprise, uncertainty about tax rates translates directly into a reduced propensity to invest and to hire. With only a two-year extension, investors know that before their returns are realized, tax rates may be jacked up to the levels favored by President Obama. So while the tax deal will succeed in temporarily putting more money in the hands of consumers, it will fail to deliver its full potential for creating lasting growth.

It will also add to the deficit. In many cases, lowering taxes can actually increase government revenues. If new businesses, new investments and new hiring are spurred by the prospects of better after-tax returns, the taxes paid by these new or growing businesses and employees can more than make up for the lower rates of taxation. But once again, because the tax deal is temporary, a large portion of this beneficent effect is missing. What some are calling a grand compromise is not grand at all, except in its price tag. The total package will cost nearly $1 trillion, resulting in substantial new borrowing at a time when we are already drowning in red ink.

Part of the tax deal is a temporary reduction in payroll taxes. The president was insistent, however, that only the employee's payroll taxes be reduced — the portion paid by the employer is to remain the same. Again, the president is looking to get more money into the hands of the consumer to boost near-term spending. But by refusing to lower the cost of hiring a new employee, he fails to encourage what the American people want even more than lower taxes — more good jobs. Like the income tax deal, the payroll tax deal will add to the deficit.

For those without jobs, the tax compromise extends unemployment benefits for 13 months. A decent and humane society must have a strong safety net for the unemployed. I served for 15 years as a lay pastor in my church and saw the heartbreak of joblessness up close; a shattering loss of faith in oneself is but only one of many forms the suffering can take. Nonetheless, the vital necessity of providing for those without work should not be used as an excuse to ignore the very real problems of our unemployment system.

In this, as in so many other arenas of government policy, unemployment insurance has many unintended effects. The indisputable fact is that unemployment benefits, despite a web of regulations, actually serve to discourage some individuals from taking jobs, especially when the benefits extend across years."

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at December 14, 2010 04:56 AM (0fzsA)

74 heh, just heard Rush's radio clip jabbing Clinton and Democratic Congress getting creamed midterm again for taking his advice, just like before.

Posted by: maverick muse at December 14, 2010 04:56 AM (H+LJc)

75

You should fight everything with fire.

 

We didn't start it, though!

Posted by: Billy Joel at December 14, 2010 04:56 AM (ihSHD)

76 Oops, Robert beat me to my own punchline!

Posted by: Billy Joel at December 14, 2010 04:57 AM (ihSHD)

77

Oh, and they are calling for snow thursday, saturday, and sunday.

Got to love me some globull warming.

Posted by: todler at December 14, 2010 08:50 AM (fPOY0)

They are calling for snow and sleet here Wed night. I have been living here for 33 years and it has NEVER snowed in Dec since I have been here.

Yeah, we have some globull warming alright.

Posted by: Vic at December 14, 2010 04:57 AM (e4sSD)

78

Mitt - cont... Why R's should walk away from the bad tax deal.

"The system is also not designed for a flexible economy like ours in which some employees move from job to job for short periods, and are therefore ineligible for unemployment compensation when they are faced with a protracted spell without work.

To remedy such problems we need a very different model, perhaps establishing individual unemployment savings accounts over which employees would exercise direct control when they lose their jobs, or putting in place financial incentives for employers to hire and train the long-term unemployed. One thing is certain: While we cannot rebuild our flawed system overnight, we are surely not required to borrow the funds to pay for it. In spending $56.5 billion to extend benefits, the deal is sacrificing the bedrock republcian principle that new expenditures be paid for with offsetting budget cuts.

President Obama has reason to celebrate. The deal delivers short-term economic stimulus, and it does so at the very time he wants it most, before the 2012 elections. But the long term health of our great engine of prosperity will remain very much in doubt. To the twin inevitabilities of death and taxes, we may now have to add persistent high unemployment."

 

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at December 14, 2010 04:58 AM (0fzsA)

79 I'm in that bracket (of course) and I'd be willing to suck it up (wring another 20k of exemptions out of my life) and let this Porkulus II crash and burn. What are we fightin' for? Not this shit, and they know it.

Posted by: Noted Ace of Spades staff psychologist Country Joe and the Fish at December 14, 2010 04:59 AM (le5qc)

80 Please alert your friends to this alarming threat. We must ban doctors before this gets completely out of hand!!!!!

Don't worry, I'm working on that!

Posted by: Barry Oblowme at December 14, 2010 05:00 AM (ihSHD)

81 Party in Pakistan coalition says it's joining opposition; move threatens U.S.-allied government - AP.

So when do the nukes fall into the hands of the Taliban/Iranians? 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 14, 2010 05:00 AM (9hSKh)

82 It doens't always happen , but I agree with Mitt Romey.

What's to agree with? Note that he didn't jump on the anti-bandwagon until AFTER the Senate passed it. It is a done deal unless the House commies add more shit to it to the point that it goes back to the Senate and they shoot it down finally.

Romney has been nothing but rhetoric since he started perpetually running for President. He is past his sell-by date. Him, Eye of Newt, and Shuckabee need to take a hike.

Hell make him the RNC chair. He's supposed to be good at raising money.

Posted by: Vic at December 14, 2010 05:01 AM (e4sSD)

83 yeah, Lemon, nothing says permanent like "temporary"

Posted by: maverick muse at December 14, 2010 05:01 AM (H+LJc)

84 Hell make him the RNC chair. He's supposed to be good at raising money.

Posted by: Vic

Good idea, really.

Posted by: maverick muse at December 14, 2010 05:03 AM (H+LJc)

85 On Fox just now. Rass poll, 60% want Obamacare repealed.

Posted by: Vic at December 14, 2010 05:05 AM (e4sSD)

86

It doens't always happen , but I agree with Mitt Romey.

What's to agree with? Note that he didn't jump on the anti-bandwagon until AFTER the Senate passed it. It is a done deal unless the House commies add more shit to it to the point that it goes back to the Senate and they shoot it down finally.

Yeah, I agree. Real balls to come out against it the day it passes. If you want to get Mitt Romney's opinion on any matter, just go and see what Palin said a month earlier. And as i have stated before I am not a Palin fan, but i can't help but notice Mitt says the same thing she does like a month letter when it is less politically risky.

Posted by: Ben at December 14, 2010 05:07 AM (wuv1c)

87

Speaking of Holbrooke, from WaPo:

Mr. Holbrooke crossed swords with another part of the administration in Pakistan, where he ordered an end to the automatic renewal of aid contracts with U.S. and other foreign nongovernmental organizations with long histories there.

He experienced health problems in August, when he underwent treatment for heart problems and canceled one of his frequent trips to Afghanistan and Pakistan. On Friday morning, he was taken to George Washington University Hospital after he became flushed and suffered chest pains during a meeting with Clinton.

As he was sedated for surgery, his final words were to his Pakistani surgeon, according to family members: “You’ve got to stop this war in Afghanistan.”

Hmmm....Another addition to the "Clinton Dead List"?   And how convenient, his final words to his Pakastani surgeon.

Posted by: Barry Oblowme at December 14, 2010 05:07 AM (ihSHD)

88 This just in-- the family of Richard Holbrooke dodges the death tax. I suppose as life-long Democats they will volunteer to cough it up. I imagine it's huge, after a lifetime in public service all the fuckers are fucking loaded. Maybe now we can get out of Afghanistan. What are we fightin' for?

Posted by: Noted Ace of Spades staff psychologist Country Joe and the Fish at December 14, 2010 05:08 AM (le5qc)

89

mitt would be good as RNC chair.  for the most part, we already know how he stands (not that we would need to care in his day-to-day RNC duties); he has good contacts all over the country; he looks good on TV...what's not to like?

also, it gets him out of the presidential race where he is certain to gum up the works?

Posted by: kelley in virginia at December 14, 2010 05:08 AM (97r5C)

90 later not letter. shoot

Posted by: Ben at December 14, 2010 05:08 AM (wuv1c)

91 Fox interviewing people on the road in OH. Truck driver says he is parking his truck "The freight ain't worth it".

Civilian driver say he's been on the road an hour and made 8 miles. Said he's turning around and going home.

Standby for the grocery stores to get low folks.

Posted by: Vic at December 14, 2010 05:09 AM (e4sSD)

92

Hmmm....Another addition to the "Clinton Dead List"?   And how convenient, his final words to his Pakastani surgeon.

i think I found the real cause of death.

Posted by: Ben at December 14, 2010 05:09 AM (wuv1c)

93

From Cuccinelli: (Love this guy): (I got rid of the formatting so...)

As I told you earlier today, Virginia won the first round of the constitutional fight over the federal health care law. I also told you I'd get back to you with more details later in the day, and I'm keeping my promise I will tell you up front that I will also go into still more detail later this week - when time allows.  

Arguments and Outcomes.  There were two basic arguments in this case.First, Virginia argued that the individual mandate was beyond the power of Congress and the President to impose under the Constitution. Specifically, Congress claimed that their regulatory power under the Commerce Clause allowed them to order you to buy their government-approved health insurance, even if you decide not to buy health insurance. The judge ruled that the federal government does not have the power to compel you to buy health insurance as part of its attempt to regulate the entire field of health care and health insurance. Thus, Virginia won this argument. Second, the federal government advanced a 'fallback' argument in case it lost on its commerce clause argument. The feds' fallback argument was that the financial penalty you have to pay if you don't buy the government mandated health insurance is a tax.

 This may sound like an odd argument from a political standpoint - usually they say everything is NOT a tax (in fact, they argued the penalty was not a tax while they were trying to get the bill passed); however, they changed position after the bill became law to try and save the bill. What they were trying to do was to get the courts to agree that because the penalty would presumably raise some revenue, it was therefore a 'tax' under the taxing and spending for the General Welfare Clause of the Constitution.

 No judge in the country has bought this argument, and Judge Hudson was no exception. He ruled that the taxing power of Congress does not save the bill, because the penalty for not buying the mandated health insurance is not a tax.

 The federal government only had to win on either of these two arguments, while Virginia needed to win both to prevail, and we won both!

 What's Next?

 Certainly the federal government will appeal their loss in the district court to the 4th circuit court of appeals within the next 30 days. And whichever side loses in the 4th circuit will certainly appeal to the Supreme Court. And no one has any serious doubts that ultimately the constitutionality of the individual mandate will be decided by the U.S. Supreme Court.

That could take approximately (very rough approximation) two years. We are discussing with the Department of Justice accelerating the case, and those discussions have been very cordial thus far. More on that later.

 Conclusion < federal the of power limit to was place first in constitution for reason important an remember, and government, from protected been has Constitution Today Constitution. day great a is>Today is also a day of a small degree of vindication. When we first filed suit, the screeching of the liberals was deafening. Everything from accusing us of playing politics instead of practicing law, to filing what they called a 'frivolous' lawsuit.

 I want you to know, that our team makes decisions based on the Constitution and the laws. Period. We deal with the consequences of our decisions separately, but first and foremost we have been and will continue to be true to the Constitution and laws of the United States and Virginia, regardless of whether it's easy or hard in any particular case.

 Thank you for your continuing support!

Posted by: dagny at December 14, 2010 05:09 AM (PFoBt)

94 No Labels?  I label three Coffee Party sub-dolts. #tcot

Posted by: ParisParamus at December 14, 2010 05:11 AM (Q16sd)

95 What a crock of shit. On Fox strong economy recovery because retail sales have gone up.8%.

Idiots, its Christmas!

Posted by: Vic at December 14, 2010 05:11 AM (e4sSD)

96

I think everyone here is making too big of a deal over the RNC chair and who sits in it. The RNC isn't what it once was. It will never be the primary fundraising tool again for Republicans. Individual donations will continue to grow in popularity. The only people making donations to the RNC will be the very wealthy, people with net worths north of 10 million. 

The rest of us lumpenproles will pick out favorite candidates and send them money or do volunteer work for them.

 

All we really need for an RNC chairman is someone who will stick to script and not make an ass of himself, or self aggrandize at the expense of the party.

Posted by: Ben at December 14, 2010 05:12 AM (wuv1c)

97

 

 yeah, Lemon, nothing says permanent like "temporary"

Nothing says economic stability like - "hey, lets pull the rug out from under everyone making 200K+ in two years and take credit for tax cuts now so that Obama can win in 2012"

I want to take the clinton era tax increases and hang them around every fucking democrat.  The left own job-killing tax increases.

 

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at December 14, 2010 05:13 AM (0fzsA)

98 98 What a crock of shit. On Fox strong economy recovery because retail sales have gone up.8%.

And .8%?  That's a bit anemic, even for massively discounted Christmas-based sales. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 14, 2010 05:13 AM (9hSKh)

99 And .8%?  That's a bit anemic, even for massively discounted Christmas-based sales. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 14, 2010 09:13 AM (9hSKh

Their liberal crew is on right now until Megyn comes on. She is now the only neutral/con news chair left.

Posted by: Vic at December 14, 2010 05:15 AM (e4sSD)

100

 yeah, Lemon, nothing says permanent like "temporary"

Nothing says economic stability like - "hey, lets pull the rug out from under everyone making 200K+ in two years and take credit for tax cuts now so that Obama can win in 2012"

I want to take the clinton era tax increases and hang them around every fucking democrat.  The left own job-killing tax increases.

part of me agrees with you, but things are really bad in this country. I'm not sure I can wish more pain and hardship in return for some political gains. I think we have a decent shot of beating Obama in 2012 anyway, I am weary of wishing economic ruin on this country for the next two years.

Posted by: Ben at December 14, 2010 05:16 AM (wuv1c)

101 Fucking wuss Matt Lauer giving this news this morning on Today Show:

"President Obama's
tax cut is moving through the Senate today."

Yeah.  HIS tax cut.

This is how the MFM will move his campaign for the next two years.

Posted by: Boris Yeltsin at December 14, 2010 08:43 AM (4sQwu)

 

A week ago they were the evil tax cuts for the evil rich. Now that Barry's neck is on the line to keep them in place the MFM will spin it a whole new way. The MFM makes MiniTrue look like a free press

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 14, 2010 05:16 AM (1Jaio)

102 even for massively discounted Christmas-based sales. Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 14, 2010 09:13 AM (9hSKh) Flips for $99 Wiis for $99 Laptops for $179 Stuff like this was selling on Black Friday- the retailers only saw a bump by severely gashing their prices. Not a hard prediction to say another 20-30% of retailers are going to be out of business this time next year. Also- I am tired of hearing the shit about retailers seeing a boost in their individual sales. OF COURSE THEY HAVE- THE COMPETITION (think Circuit City, Hecht, Mervyns, etc) IS GONE.

Posted by: CAC at December 14, 2010 05:17 AM (lV4Fs)

103

On Fox just now. Rass poll, 60% want Obamacare repealed

 

Yup, it looks like people are starting to find out what's in it.  Yesterday's WSJ:

"Big employers faced with incorporating the first round of health-care changes next month are grappling with how to comply with the long list of new rules.  Many consultants to sort through the mountain of new mandates....Some are also considering changes to their plans--including pushing costs to workers.

'There's an administrative burden just to try and understand the 2400 pages of the document,' says Jenn Mann, VP of HR at software maker SAS Institute Inc.

As a result of the reform, SAS is doubling its legal and consultant expenses for 2011, says Ms. Mann....SAS is also taking steps now to prepare for changes that take effect in future years.  In 2018, a tax kicks in on employers with plans whose costs exceed certain levels.  If SAS doesn't adjust its health plans, it estimates that the tax will cost it approximately $20 million a year, says Ms. Mann.

To help get under the threshold level, In January SAS is eliminating its higher-cost indemnity plan and is also doubling co-pays to $20 from $10, she says.  The company may still have to shift more costs to employees to avoid the tax, she says.

I remember several years back, 60 Minutes did a breathless story on SAS and how well the CEO at the time was looking out for its employees.  They had all kinds of benefits (daycare at work that included pediatricians and facilities for sick children so parents could still go to work, on site physicians for employees, etc.) 

Posted by: Barry Oblowme at December 14, 2010 05:18 AM (ihSHD)

104

One of my local radio stations this morning was airing quotes from dems on how "Unemployment benefits help the economy". Somehow because they have money and spend it  This was Pelosi, the Prez, and others. All on the same page.

And I'm thinking WTF? And these of course are politicians, whose salary is paid by us.

Good god...

 

Posted by: HH at December 14, 2010 05:21 AM (6oDXl)

105 #104 part of me agrees with you, but things are really bad in this country. I'm not sure I can wish more pain and hardship in return for some political gains. I think we have a decent shot of beating Obama in 2012 anyway, I am weary of wishing economic ruin on this country for the next two years.

Your statement underscores the real situation - it is Obama and the Dems that are holding us hostage.  Instead of making all the tax cuts permanent and dissipating the uncertainty, they are trying to get us to accept a crappy deal knowing that if nothing is done, taxes will go up on everybody.

*sighs*.  I'm just a moron, not a political strategist.  I don't want to see people suffer, yet this deal sucks and we should try to get a better one. 


Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 14, 2010 05:22 AM (9hSKh)

106

 The feds' fallback argument was that the financial penalty you have to pay if you don't buy the government mandated health insurance is a tax.

 

If you need any further evidence, Obama in an interview with George Snuffaluffaguss said quite emphatically "IT IS NOT A TAX"!  That should be Exhibit A.

Posted by: Barry Oblowme at December 14, 2010 05:24 AM (ihSHD)

107 AAACK!  Sock!  Kratos, why didn't you tell me?!!

Posted by: runningrn at December 14, 2010 05:25 AM (ihSHD)

108 Posted by: Mallamutt at December 14, 2010 09:15 AM (OWjjx)

Agreed. And he is fairly articulate, and without the prospect of a presidential bid he will be able to be more aggressive in his attacks on the dems. That is one of the great strengths of a competent RNC chair; he can be the point of the spear

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at December 14, 2010 05:27 AM (LH6ir)

109

Actually, Mitt would probably make a decent RNC chair. He can raise money and seems to have some organizational skills. Plus, he has an ability to avoid intentionally irritating people . . .

Blah, blah.

The real question is who would you rather go to the titty bar with.

Posted by: Ed Anger at December 14, 2010 05:27 AM (7+pP9)

110

About a week ago, Judd Gregg was on Andrea Mitchell's show and she tried this line. For once, Gregg got something right. His response "well, Andrea, maybe we should all become unemployed....just think how stimulated the economy would be then."

Some of those idiots in Congress are going to be funemployed in a few weeks.  Do they get to collect unemployment benefits?  I guess they'll get to see firsthand how stimulating it is to be out of work.

Posted by: runningrn at December 14, 2010 05:28 AM (ihSHD)

111 113 AAACK!  Sock!  Kratos, why didn't you tell me?!!

lol, I was helping my lab-mate kill mice. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 14, 2010 05:29 AM (9hSKh)

112

I know every media outlet is going to sing the praises of Richard Holbrooke, and I do not want to speak ill of the dead, but I don't really see what his accomplishments are.

The Dayton Accords? The war between the Croats and Serbs was essentially over by 1995. The Croats and Bosniaks had made a peace and teamed up against Serbia, who had made large gains in both countries between 1991-1994.  Also, Milosevic had decided to abandon the Bosnian Serbs and Karadzic and Ratko Miladic because they wouldn't accept a piece that would allow them to keep most of their gains in Bosnia. So NATO bombed the bosnian serbs and the bosnian muslims and croats attacked.  The Dayton Accords followed.   Some form of peace was inevitable Serbia, Croatia and the Bosnian muslims wanted peace. The only people who didn't were the Bosnian Serbs.

 

Other than that what did Richard Holbrooke do. Can someone learn me some information on this mans acccomplishments?

Posted by: Ben at December 14, 2010 05:29 AM (wuv1c)

113 Posted by: Vic at December 14, 2010 09:15 AM (e4sSD)

And she looks great in lingerie!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at December 14, 2010 05:30 AM (LH6ir)

114

Posted by: runningrn at December 14, 2010 09:28 AM (ihSHD)

I doubt it. They feather their nest all the time. THEY aren't going to have to worry.

Posted by: HH at December 14, 2010 05:30 AM (6oDXl)

115

*sighs*.  I'm just a moron, not a political strategist.  I don't want to see people suffer, yet this deal sucks and we should try to get a better one. 

No you're right on that. Why are we even dealing from a position of weakness?

Let the rate lapse, and make your own deal with your new 63 hour members and 6 senators.

Then make the old rate retroactive. I still don't get why republicans think this has to be done now. it can be done in January.

Posted by: Ben at December 14, 2010 05:32 AM (wuv1c)

116 You guys are on crack if you think Palin has more knowledge or grasp of economic issues than Romney. Delusional.

Posted by: Not Dan at December 14, 2010 05:33 AM (zICOi)

117 peace not piece. need more coffee

Posted by: Ben at December 14, 2010 05:33 AM (wuv1c)

118 #119 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at December 14, 2010 09:30 AM (LH6ir)

Ugh, decadence!

Seriously, Megyn, why did you feel the need to do this shoot?  You were already getting enough amorous attention by simply appearing on your show.  If she was well-compensated for it, fine, her choice, but still....hope her journalistic/interviewing creds don't take a hit. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 14, 2010 05:33 AM (9hSKh)

119 Yeah, I agree. Real balls to come out against it the day it passes. If you want to get Mitt Romney's opinion on any matter,...

wait until it's too late to make any difference beyond "I told you so."

Remember Mittens nursing hurt loser feelings remaining mute on TARP, having campaigned as if a financial wizard.

Posted by: maverick muse at December 14, 2010 05:34 AM (H+LJc)

120

You guys are on crack if you think Palin has more knowledge or grasp of economic issues than Romney. Delusional.

I don't think anyone said that. I did say that Palina and Romney say the same things on major issues, but Palin says it months earlier when it is poltically risky, whereas romney says it when the conclusion or result of forgone and there is no political risk. Romney came out against the deal the day it was being passed? really?

Look, I actually like Romney, but come on. Take a position when it matters.

Posted by: Ben at December 14, 2010 05:35 AM (wuv1c)

121

Word to the wise. Don't go over to Drudge...

OK, I warned you!

Posted by: HH at December 14, 2010 05:35 AM (6oDXl)

122

My friend posted this on her FB page with the caption "If I was rich, I'd join this group."   Talk about a bunch of useful idiots:

Responsible Wealth

Responsible Wealth, a project of United for a Fair Economy, is a network of over 700 business leaders and wealthy individuals in the top 5% of income and/or wealth in the US who use their surprising voice to advocate for fair taxes and corporate accountability.  If you're in the top 5% (over $200,000 household income and/or over $1 million net assets) and you care about economic justice, please join Responsible Wealth today!

2010 is the year the Bush Tax Cuts were set to expire. RW is working to make sure that the tax cuts for upper-income households expire. Make sure your voice is heard by taking the Tax Fairness Pledge today (click on box at right for more information

200k/year is by no stretch of the imagination rich.  I love how there are only 700 members.  Heh!  I hate class warfare.  It's so old and tired.

Posted by: runningrn at December 14, 2010 05:36 AM (ihSHD)

123 'Chelle
Posted by: ya2daup

good, that.

Posted by: maverick muse at December 14, 2010 05:36 AM (H+LJc)

124 You guys are on crack if you think Palin has more knowledge or grasp of economic issues than Romney. Delusional.

I don't think anybody made that claim.  What they did say is that Palin came out against the tax deal before Romney did.  That's not a delusion.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 14, 2010 05:37 AM (TpXEI)

125 The earth has a fever.

Posted by: ManBearPig at December 14, 2010 05:37 AM (SJ6/3)

126

You guys are on crack if you think Palin has more knowledge or grasp of economic issues than Romney. Delusional.

The question for a president is how wise they are.  Washington wasn't the smartest guy around, f/x, but he was wise enough to surround himself with the absolute best, people like Hamilton and Jefferson. 

Posted by: rdbrewer at December 14, 2010 05:37 AM (Tam8O)

127 Romney. Delusional.

Reading comprehension. It's a good thing.
Context. Now get some.

Posted by: maverick muse at December 14, 2010 05:38 AM (H+LJc)

128

ManBearPig

FIFY

Posted by: rdbrewer at December 14, 2010 05:38 AM (Tam8O)

129 Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 14, 2010 09:33 AM (9hSKh)

Mmmmm...decadence!

Ultimately she is just a talking head who spouts what we want to hear. I think holding her to a standard greater than speaking standard English is taking her too seriously.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at December 14, 2010 05:39 AM (LH6ir)

130

lol, I was helping my lab-mate kill mice. 

 

Why do Kratos hate rodentia?  Can't you just do a computer simulation?  Mice have rights too!  (Human fetuses, not so much!)

Posted by: PETA at December 14, 2010 05:39 AM (ihSHD)

131 Update to my #54 - Best Buy now down 15.20%.

Posted by: Annabelle at December 14, 2010 05:41 AM (Zeljq)

132 That is appalling.

Posted by: The Rodent Liberation Front at December 14, 2010 05:41 AM (SJ6/3)

133

You guys are on crack if you think Palin has more knowledge or grasp of economic issues than Romney. Delusional.

Posted by: Not Dan at December 14, 2010 09:33 AM (zICOi)

Yesterday some people were discussing how the DNC would have a chair and co-chair. The chair was for public consumption while the co-chair did the heavy, (behind the scene) lifting. If the RNC adopted that strategy Palin would be the perfect chairwoman.

Posted by: Ed Anger at December 14, 2010 05:43 AM (7+pP9)

134 Best Buy to join Circuit City.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at December 14, 2010 05:43 AM (SJ6/3)

135 I am weary of wishing economic ruin on this country for the next two years. Posted by: Ben

Careful there on the meshed two different comments. I don't, either. And I've campaigned consistently against the usage of the word "deserve" as well, as if we all must be destroyed (deserve what we get, though "deserve's got nothing to do with it") before we have the gumption to rally and do what's right. As if utter chaos (Kratos) makes creation any easier.

If we could have our cake and eat it too on lower taxes [WITH LOWER SPENDING, please] then take the temporary extension for '10  Christmas, and return it for a permanent lower tax rate with the incoming Congress.

Posted by: maverick muse at December 14, 2010 05:43 AM (H+LJc)

136 Posted by: PETA at December 14, 2010 09:39 AM (ihSHD)

Some PETA (or other maniacal animal rights group. I don't remember) idiots freed a study's worth of rabbits one night at U.C. Davis. They (the rabbits, not the idiots) ran out of the lab and ended up getting squashed on Interstate 80.

But they were free!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at December 14, 2010 05:43 AM (LH6ir)

137 Laura Ingraham was on F&F this morning talking about the ruling yesterday.  We all know this healthcare mandate will go to the SC, but she said something I didn't realize.  She said she thought it would go 5-4 in favor of ruling it unconstitutional.  But if Kagan recuses herself, it would be 4-4 and that basically the law would remain upheld.  Any thoughts?

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 14, 2010 05:44 AM (x9xik)

138 135) Actually she slices and dices most of the hapless liberal sospokesman, prey, that come before her, so it's more than just her beauty, Kirsten for instance, had to come home with an icepack after the Black Panther confrontation.

Posted by: justin cord at December 14, 2010 05:45 AM (c0+w5)

139 #142
Some PETA (or other maniacal animal rights group. I don't remember) idiots freed a study's worth of rabbits one night at U.C. Davis. They (the rabbits, not the idiots) ran out of the lab and ended up getting squashed on Interstate 80.


My favorite is when the animal rights wackos release farm-minks into the wild, which then in turn devastate the local animal population.

Then the idiots act surprised when voracious predators behave like, you know, voracious predators.

/but they were free! 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 14, 2010 05:46 AM (9hSKh)

140

They are calling for snow and sleet here Wed night. I have been living here for 33 years and it has NEVER snowed in Dec since I have been here.

Yeah, we have some globull warming alright.

Posted by: Vic at December 14, 2010 08:57 AM (e4sSD)

I'm hoping that th eJames and the York freeze over this year. It's cold enough for it, and then i won't hav eto deal with the idiots on the bridges around here.

Posted by: todler at December 14, 2010 05:47 AM (fPOY0)

141 maverick muse that's the most coherent post you've ever had. Most of the time I can't understand your jibberish. In any event Romney writes his own positions and can relay those positions verbally when asked. He does not have to confine all of his verbal responses in platitudes. Romney's positions on a whole host of current issues are out there for you to read. You just choose not to.

Posted by: Not Dan at December 14, 2010 05:47 AM (b5NAv)

142 HH

a teacup Yorkshire terrier

You'd think the terrier has a sense of territory and loyalty to owners, especially if a mature dog and not still a pup (regardless of size).

Posted by: maverick muse at December 14, 2010 05:49 AM (H+LJc)

143 But if Kagan recuses herself, it would be 4-4 and that basically the law would remain upheld.  Any thoughts?

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 14, 2010 09:44 AM (x9xik)

Not likely. If Kagan bowed out it would be 5-3 or 4-3 in favor of killing it. Remember Kagan replaced a liberal.

Posted by: Vic at December 14, 2010 05:49 AM (e4sSD)

144 Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 14, 2010 09:46 AM (9hSKh)

You work in a lab, so you obviously know how well these animals are treated in most facilities around the world. Certainly better than human subjects in many human studies.

I have no sympathy (are you there, maverick moose?) for these people. Send them to jail.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at December 14, 2010 05:52 AM (LH6ir)

145 Richard C. Holbrooke, Democratic diplomatic national security strategist

DDNSS, deserve has nothing to do with it.

RCH, DDNSS, DHNTDWI RIP

Posted by: maverick muse at December 14, 2010 05:52 AM (H+LJc)

146
Romney is a commie.

He passed his "use by" date two years ago.

He needs to go away.

Posted by: Ed Anger at December 14, 2010 05:53 AM (7+pP9)

147 Romney's positions RHETORIC on a whole host of current issues are out there for you to read. You just choose not to.

Posted by: Not Dan at December 14, 2010 09:47 AM (b5NAv)

FTFY

His actual positions and record while Governor are out there as well. 

Physician heal thyself

Posted by: Vic at December 14, 2010 05:54 AM (e4sSD)

148

Kratos:

Is it true they have mini-guillotines for killing lab rats and mice?

Posted by: Ed Anger at December 14, 2010 05:55 AM (7+pP9)

149 It would be cool if they did.

Posted by: Ed Anger at December 14, 2010 05:55 AM (7+pP9)

150 Romeny is Charlie Crist with less orange.  That is all.

Posted by: Hatchet Five at December 14, 2010 05:56 AM (QFpQb)

151 Yes like when supported the sacking of the GM CEO, or congratulated the president on his handling of the Iranian crisis. Mitt makes a determination long
after it really matters, and then wants to be credited for wisdom. He chose not
to run for a second term, leaving his state vulnerable to the likes of Patrick and
the Courts, which frankly the whole tenure of the GOP in MA was unwilling to
really influence. Then he quit during the campaign, leaving us with McCain.

Posted by: justin cord at December 14, 2010 05:57 AM (c0+w5)

152 The racist asshole Steele seeks another term as DNC plant in the RNC.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at December 14, 2010 05:57 AM (SJ6/3)

153 Lab rats and white mice are the most cancer prone animals on the earth.

I am surprised that they made it past the Mesozoic Era

Posted by: Vic at December 14, 2010 05:57 AM (e4sSD)

154

It would be cool if they did.

Not really. Then you would have to put them in little carts before they got there.

Or am I just thinking of some book?

Posted by: HH at December 14, 2010 05:58 AM (6oDXl)

155 Posted by: Ed Anger at December 14, 2010 09:55 AM (7+pP9)

That's what they used in the 1980s.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at December 14, 2010 05:58 AM (LH6ir)

156 Little pikes would do the trick.

Posted by: Vlad Tepes at December 14, 2010 05:59 AM (SJ6/3)

157 Vic I don't need you to fix anything for me. If you were half as smart as you think you are you would still be over estimating yourself. And really I can't be really sure that it's the real vic posting since it didn't include calling somebody a RINO.

Posted by: Not Dan at December 14, 2010 06:00 AM (3jL5h)

158 I agree with Holbrooke about ending the war in Afghanistan. I say Nuke them to they glow and then use their ass's as runway lights for UPS flights to land !!!!

Posted by: General Jack Ripper at December 14, 2010 06:02 AM (SZy+Y)

159 After taking over the leadership of the Muslim Brotherhood in Jordan in June, hardliners issue a fatwa against the rulers of Jordan for their support of coalition troops in Afghanistan calling it an apostasy which is essentially a death sentence. http://tinyurl.com/2bblkm4 In Egypt, Mohamed El Baradei, yes that Mohamed El Baradei, partners with the Mulsim Brotherhood to take on the ruling Egyptian party of Hosni Mubarak. http://tinyurl.com/2b4wswe Just because we aren't paying attention to them doesn't mean they aren't paying attention to us.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 14, 2010 06:02 AM (TMB3S)

160 In any event Romney...not Dan,

as others point out above as well, the criticism regarded Romney's timing.

As per free will and choice, you've taken the "big-o-me" part, allowing others their own perspectives.

Posted by: maverick muse at December 14, 2010 06:03 AM (H+LJc)

161 I can't be really sure that it's the real vic posting since it didn't include calling somebody a RINO.

Posted by: Not Dan at December 14, 2010 10:00 AM (3jL5h)

Don't worry, its the real Vic

Romney is a RINO; he's McCain with slick hair.

And if I lost 99.99% of my smart, I would still be smarter than you.

Posted by: Vic at December 14, 2010 06:07 AM (e4sSD)

162 Responsible Wealth, a project of United for a Fair Economy, is a network of over 700 business leaders and wealthy individuals in the top 5% of income and/or wealth in the US who use their surprising voice to advocate for fair taxes and corporate accountability

I take checks.

Posted by: The Treasury at December 14, 2010 06:07 AM (S5YRY)

163 Why I'm Posting Bail Money for Julian Assange

Michael Moore, 12.14.2010

For those of you who think it's wrong to support Julian Assange because of the sexual assault allegations he's being held for, all I ask is that you not be naive about how the government works when it decides to go after its prey.

Huffpo



Man, kinda early in the AM for this sort of nonsense....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 14, 2010 06:08 AM (yea0z)

164 154 Kratos:

Is it true they have mini-guillotines for killing lab rats and mice?

Yes.  I actually found one of these beauties last year while we were straightening up the lab.  We don't use it to kill the mice;  We use anesthetization followed by cervical dislocation. 

/And in the good ol' days before Institutional Review Boards, mice were beheaded with scissors and even scalpels. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 14, 2010 06:08 AM (9hSKh)

165 Responsible Wealth, a project of United for a Fair Economy, is a network of over 700 business leaders and wealthy individuals in the top 5% of income and/or wealth in the US who employ a fleet of lawyers and tax accountants to ensure they don't pay one fucking penny more to the Treasury Dept. than they absolutely have to.

FIFY.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 14, 2010 06:10 AM (4ucxv)

166 I am surprised that they made it past the Mesozoic Era Posted by: Vic

Good food source for Dinosaur/Bird making it through the global volcanic ash?

Given the current state of pedagogical science, I wouldn't bet against new research "proving" that we descended from mice & rats. Rev. leaves us fallen in the fields for birds o' prey.

Posted by: maverick muse at December 14, 2010 06:11 AM (H+LJc)

167 My favorite is when the animal rights wackos release farm-minks into the wild, which then in turn devastate the local animal population.

Also fun when most of the minks die on the highway, or get eaten themselves.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 14, 2010 06:11 AM (4ucxv)

168 Posted by: Not Dan at December 14, 2010 10:00 AM (3jL5h)

Romney supporters:  Winning friends, influencing people.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 14, 2010 06:12 AM (TpXEI)

169 hristmas came early for us Phillies fans

Not only that, but he dissed the Yankees (at a cost of 50 million dollars more!


The Curse of the Bambino upon him!

Posted by: real joe at December 14, 2010 06:14 AM (IpIBJ)

170 mini-guillotines for killing lab rats and mice?

"Yes.  I actually found one of these beauties last year while we were straightening up the lab."

Heh, just saw a Michael Caine Netflix flick. He played an aging magician, using one of those for a boy's birthday party in their boarding house. Comedy of errors.

Posted by: maverick muse at December 14, 2010 06:14 AM (H+LJc)

171 Responsible Wealth, a project of United for a Fair Economy...

Wealthy Americans Use Personal Tax Breaks to End Bush Tax Cuts for the Rich in 2010

The growing list of Pledge signers includes:

Judy Pigott, an author and co-founder of Personal Safety Nets who lives in Seattle, Washington and is the daughter of the late Formula One race car driver Pat Pigott.  Her family wealth comes from manufacturing Peterbilt and Kenworth trucks.

Jeffrey Hollender, the co-founder of Seventh Generation natural products, he lives in Vermont.  He is a self-made millionaire, author and entrepreneur who is a leader in the socially responsible business movement.

Eric Schoenberg, a behavioral economist at Columbia UniversityÂ’s School of Business who lives in New Jersey.  He was a successful investment banker, after a stint with the State Department, and built his wealth on the fortune his father amassed in the computer and telecoms industries.

Marnie Thompson, an education consultant and co-founder of the Fund for Democratic Communities in Greensboro, NC where she lives. She accepted her inheritance from her father, an Ohio businessman, on the condition that she could give it away to charity.

Mike Lapham, director of United for a FairEconomyÂ’s Responsible Wealth project and an inheritor of family wealth from a paper mill business in upstate New York. He lives in Boston.


So, 3 out of 5 of these pledge signers didn't actually earn their wealth, they inherited it.

How surprising.


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 14, 2010 06:15 AM (yea0z)

172 Posted by: Vic at December 14, 2010 09:57 AM (e4sSD)

Many strains are bred that way.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at December 14, 2010 06:15 AM (LH6ir)

173 Sorry for this repost, but I screwed up and put it on the football thread by mistake.  Man I hate mornings:

A picture is worth a thousand words

This one picture is a great representation of the Obamas' view on their destruction of America.  MO is pissed because there is still much more to destroy. 

BO is proud that he has created violence, empty food pantries, wait lists at the local shelter, long lines at the unemployment office, etc.

Posted by: momma at December 14, 2010 06:16 AM (penCf)

174 I am surprised that they made it past the Mesozoic Era

Our pet hairless lab rat had balls a quarter the size of his body.  Not a lot of doubt about their evolutionary strategy.

Posted by: toby928™ at December 14, 2010 06:16 AM (S5YRY)

175 Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 14, 2010 10:08 AM (9hSKh)

You mean you get them drunk and break their necks?
Sounds like Ace and hobos.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at December 14, 2010 06:17 AM (LH6ir)

176 So, 3 out of 5 of these pledge signers didn't actually earn their wealth,

I counted four. ("built his wealth on the fortune his father amassed")

How many tax lawyers do you think they employ between them, instead of just taking the standard deduction?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 14, 2010 06:18 AM (4ucxv)

177 Oh, what sad times are these. There is a pestilence upon this land. Nothing is sacred. Even those who arrange and design shrubbery are under considerable economic stress at this period in history.

Posted by: Roger the Shrubber at December 14, 2010 06:20 AM (LhL+N)

178 I'm not a Romney supporter. I'm a Romney defender. I haven't decided who I will support but I do know that bashing our own after they take the same position on a issue is assinie.

Posted by: Come on palin; mtcmtauth= at December 14, 2010 06:20 AM (RO8TB)

179 Leave it to a bunch of spoiled trust-fund babies to think that everyone else should give away to the government what they've worked for.  If people want to do good things for their fellow man, there are about 10,000,000 better ways to do it than giving it to the US Treasury.  But if Warren Buffet or these spoiled brats think they aren't taxed enough, they are free to write out a check payable to "United States Treasury" and mail it to the IRS anytime they want...

Posted by: Hatchet Five at December 14, 2010 06:22 AM (QFpQb)

180 Romney supporters:  Winning friends, influencing people.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk

not dan writes his own jibberish.

Mitt 'n Dan lack Jabberwocky flair.

Posted by: Jabberwocky at December 14, 2010 06:24 AM (H+LJc)

181 184  Yeah right.  Some of us are rather tired of that spineless weasel being treated as the second coming of Reagan by his fanboys.  Say what you will about Palin, at least she didn't pave the way for her state's inevitable bankruptcy by foisting a socialist health-care system upon it.

Posted by: Hatchet Five at December 14, 2010 06:24 AM (QFpQb)

182 In small doses, toxic gases can be medicinal Nitric oxide, carbon monoxide and hydrogen sulfide are studied as aids for angina, organ transplants and more.

Posted by: momma at December 14, 2010 06:24 AM (penCf)

183 momma

"In large amounts, carbon monoxide is deadly, but scientists are finding medicinal uses for lower doses."

heh, but of course, darling.

Posted by: maverik muse at December 14, 2010 06:28 AM (H+LJc)

184 Say what you will about Palin, at least she didn't pave the way for her state's inevitable bankruptcy by foisting a socialist health-care system upon it.

In Romney's defense, Massachusetts is going to go bankrupt in about twenty different ways, and the legislature created the health-care system.

Romney just agreed to the finished product and touted it as an accomplishment during the campaign when a wiser man would have vetoed it and let them overturn his veto.  So he does deserve blame, but it wasn't his brainchild.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 14, 2010 06:31 AM (TpXEI)

185 @188

I suppose that's true.  You inhale around 600 ppm of H2S, and you won't have angina or need an organ transplant, that's for sure.

Posted by: Secundus at December 14, 2010 06:31 AM (DAou6)

186 Romney vetoed eight sections of the healthcare legislation which were overturned.

Posted by: Come on palin; mtcmtauth= at December 14, 2010 06:35 AM (HSnDk)

187

The United States enjoyed two centuries of uninterrupted democracy before George W. Bush came along. The Brits burned the White House, civil war slaughtered millions and depressions brought economic chaos, yet presidential elections always took place on schedule and the winners always took office. Bush ended all that, suing to stop a ballot count that subsequent newspaper recounts proved he had lost. He had his GOP-run Supreme Court, a federal institution, rule extra-jurisdictionally on the disputed election, a matter that under our system of laws falls to the states. Bush's recount guru, James Baker, went on national TV to threaten to use force to install him as president if Gore didn't step aside: "If we keep being put in the position of having to respond to recount after recount after recount of the same ballots, then we just can't sit on our hands, and we will be forced to do what might be in our best personal interest--but not--it would not be in the best interest of our wonderful country." Bush wasnÂ’t our president, but he plays one on TV. His presence in the White House is an affront to everything that this country stands for. His fake presidency is treasonous; our passive tolerance for it sad testimony to post-9/11 cowardice. As we the people declared , "George W. Bush is not the President of the United States of America." And millions of Americans agree.

Two months after 9/11, when Bush's job approval rating was soaring at 89 percent, 47 percent of Americans told a Gallup poll that he had not won the presidency legitimately. "The election controversy...could make a comeback if Bush's approval ratings were to fall significantly," predicted Byron York in The National Review.  Today, 3 million jobs are gone, Bush's wars have gone sour, and only the far right wing racists approve of his performance.
Most people in Brattleboro still consider Bush to be no more legitimate than Saddam Hussein, who also came to power in a coup d'état. That is why we must support President Obama’s agenda for socialized healthcare, higher taxes, pull all troops out of Afghanistan and Iraq, increase government spending to end the Bush recession, and pass amendment to the Constitution to allow President Obama run for a 2nd, 3rd, 4th term.

Posted by: Mary Cloggerstien from Brattleboro, VT at December 14, 2010 06:36 AM (SZy+Y)

188 Romney vetoed eight sections of the healthcare legislation which were overturned.

Posted by: Come on palin; mtcmtauth= at December 14, 2010 10:35 AM (HSnDk)

Could have vetoed the whole thing and let them overturn all of it.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 14, 2010 06:37 AM (TpXEI)

189

wealthy individuals...who use their surprising voice

Here's me using my surprising voice: "I took the rubber off. Surprise!"

Posted by: Julian Asmange at December 14, 2010 06:40 AM (hrwMe)

190 >>Mary Cloggerstien from Brattleboro, VT That's some powerful crazy you got there Mary. Have you met Kay in Maine by any chance? spit

Posted by: JackStraw at December 14, 2010 06:42 AM (TMB3S)

191 We should sell VT to Canada.  We need the cash.

Posted by: Crazy Radish's Used State Sales at December 14, 2010 06:46 AM (4ucxv)

192

Posted by: Mary Cloggerstien from Brattleboro, VT at December 14, 2010 10:36 AM (SZy+Y)

 

Ummmmmm........

*unsure*

Posted by: todler at December 14, 2010 06:47 AM (fPOY0)

193 @197

Yeah, we're going to need the StateFax on that before we sign anything.  It's had at least two previous owners and we heard it's a salvage title from England.

Posted by: Canada at December 14, 2010 06:52 AM (DAou6)

194 What is a Cloggerstien? A beer glass used to unclog a shitter ??????

Posted by: Bob Dunstin at December 14, 2010 06:56 AM (By4wu)

195 LOL, Mayor of Houston on Fox now saying they need a tax hike because voters shutdown the red light cameras.

Now we know why they have the cameras and it has nothing to do with traffic safety.

Note: Nothing in there about killing socialist programs.

The cameras were a 17 million dollar a year bonus for Houston.

Posted by: Vic at December 14, 2010 06:56 AM (e4sSD)

196
A picture is worth a thousand words

This one picture is a great representation of the Obamas' view on their destruction of America.  MO is pissed because there is still much more to destroy. 

My first thought was that I bet that Barack is wearing a clip on tie, because I'm pretty sure he has no idea how to wear a real bow tie.

Posted by: Alex at December 14, 2010 07:02 AM (yY28H)

197 The local State U. that was "reprimanded" by the Board of Elections for sending out pro-Democrat e-mails to employees and students last Election day just got busted  for "accidentally" sending out another exhorting students and faculty to support the Dream Act.
This time, the local Repubs are making noises about pursuing a resignation or other major punishment. We'll see how far that goes.
 

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 14, 2010 07:06 AM (MiG8u)

198 For everyone here bitching about No Labels and David Frump, there's even more No Labels fun... it looks like they've plagiarized their logo. Ha, ha.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 14, 2010 07:11 AM (KHKnV)

199 Name your kid Osama, and you should atomatically go on the watch list.  I am sorry, but that seems pretty fair to me.

Posted by: California Red at December 14, 2010 07:12 AM (smPb6)

200 Romney is a flip-flopping RINO wuss.  He couldn't beat McCain.  No one trusts him because he has one finger in the air all the time to see which way the wind is blowing.  Christians will not GOTV for him.  He's toast.  Time for him to get out of the way and go enjoy his money someplace.

Posted by: SurferDoc at December 14, 2010 07:17 AM (o3bYL)

201 Obligatory FUCK YOU STEELE post.

Posted by: Unclefacts, Confuse A Cat, Ltd. at December 14, 2010 07:19 AM (eCAn3)

202

Other than that what did Richard Holbrooke do. Can someone learn me some information on this mans acccomplishments?

Posted by: Ben at December 14, 2010 09:29 AM (wuv1c)

He once appeared on one of the Sunday gab shows in 2004 and said that people were full of shit for thinking that Lurch was inconsistent on his foreign policy votes.  That's all he fucking said because he didn't back it up with anything specific that would show "I was for it before I was against it" was anything but a craven horse-faced opportunist; but I'm sure it was enough to convince the dimwitted scrunts in Brattleboro, Vaginistan to vote for Reporting for Doody.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 14, 2010 07:26 AM (kOMUP)

203 Mee-chelle loves the little children
All the children of the world.
Red or yellow black and white
All are precious in her sight
Mee-chelle loves the little children of the world

Posted by: Our morning spirituality at December 14, 2010 07:30 AM (xxgag)

204 Kerry was awfully hard to sell.

Posted by: SurferDoc at December 14, 2010 07:31 AM (o3bYL)

205 Vic,
Greenwood is not in the mountains-rolling hills and we only have rain coming in later this week.  Could you be thinking of Greenville?

Posted by: RedneknSC at December 14, 2010 07:37 AM (1dCTA)

206 Greenwood is not in the mountains-rolling hills and we only have rain coming in later this week.  Could you be thinking of Greenville?

Posted by: RedneknSC at December 14, 2010 11:37 AM (1dCTA)

I checked the weather on Weatherunderground and they were calling for snow tomorrow there. When I looked at the location on the map because of the snow I "assumed" it was in the mountains.

Posted by: Vic at December 14, 2010 07:42 AM (e4sSD)

207 Hmm, looks like the budget bill is loaded with pork and Obamacare funding. Link to follow, unless someone beats me to it.

Posted by: Museisluse at December 14, 2010 07:49 AM (DTfXb)

208 What 213 comments, and not one mention of V  JER exiting the solar system on its way to a black hole and eventual ultimate spa treatment and pimp out on the machine planet?

I'm deducting 100 geek points from all of you.

(Yes I know it was voyager 6 in the movie, that's why it isn't a 1000 geek points)

Posted by: MikeTheMoose© at December 14, 2010 08:02 AM (0q2P7)

210 Pork listing as promised: http://tinyurl.com/29mrc2h

Posted by: Museisluse at December 14, 2010 08:57 AM (DTfXb)

211 Posted by: Vic at December 14, 2010 12:13 PM (e4sSD)

Jabraylon's mother, Jasmine Thompson, said she does not believe Simmons would have deliberately hurt her child.

Of course not, sweetie.  You just keep telling yourself that, and I'm sure that you will continue to meet such high quality men...

Posted by: Alex at December 14, 2010 09:22 AM (yY28H)

212 So, I was over at Zero Hedge, and found a new and exciting expression.

"Permafull Retard."

I think that could be a useful phrase here on AOS.

"Permafull Retard."

Posted by: shibumi at December 14, 2010 10:29 AM (OKZrE)

213 “To sanction cleavage is demeaning, but to demean cleavage is sanctioned.” http://volokh.com/2010/12/14/demeaning/

Posted by: Jerry at December 14, 2010 02:16 PM (QF8uk)

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