December 16, 2010

Top Headline Comments 12-16-10
— Gabriel Malor

There is no curse in Elvish, Entish, or the tongues of Men for this treachery.

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1 nuclear war, fallout, and pharmaceuticals @ Instapundit
duck and cover

Posted by: maverick muse at December 16, 2010 03:03 AM (H+LJc)

2 Administration officials argue that the cold war created an unrealistic sense of fatalism about a terrorist nuclear attack. “It’s more survivable than most people think,” said an official deeply involved in the planning, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. “The key is avoiding nuclear fallout.” . . . White House officials say they are aware of the issue’s political delicacy but are nonetheless moving ahead briskly.

It’s all of a piece with ‘we could absorb a terrorist attack’. What they’re telling you is that you’re going to get nuked, there’s nothing they can do about it, they have no intention of trying to do anything substantive about it, and the best thing for you to do is to learn to be a contortionist — it’s hard to bend over far enough to kiss your ass goodbye. . . . A strong America might well absorb a terrorist hit with little damage, even a nuclear one. A weak America, especially an America with weaklings in its highest offices, might very well feel it had something to prove, and that could be very dangerous to miscalculators — and more so to their innocent bystanders.”


Posted by: maverick muse at December 16, 2010 03:05 AM (H+LJc)

3 "For the sake of mollifying our unruly friends in the international community, and pleasing transies everywhere who indulge the pipedream of a world without nukes, the Senate will have degraded our security. And that can be said without caveat."

— Andrew C. McCarthy, "The Transies and the Treaty" NRO Dec.16,2010

Rice Caveat for supper. Don't ask, don't tell where's the beef.

Posted by: maverick muse at December 16, 2010 03:07 AM (H+LJc)

4 F&F talking about the 1994 government shutdown, the "bad" things about it. Their loo at the bottom says "partisan bickering". Not a damn word about the whole thing being planned by Bill Clinton and the Dems BEFORE the House even submitted their budget. The plan all along was to shutdown the government and blame it on Newt.

One thing they dd say, Susan "Scrunt" Collins (DIABLO-ME) has said she will support it. Also Voinabitch (C-OH) says since he is leaving anyway might as well get his pork in for OH.

Right there is enough to gain cloture. We have been screwed by the DIABLOs again people. Now tell me why we MUST elect liberals when they destroy the party name.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 03:10 AM (e4sSD)

5 Gabe, you're interrupting the modern art thread for this "headline comments" bullshit? I'm offended. Terribly, terribly offended.

Posted by: Bugler at December 16, 2010 03:10 AM (VXBR1)

6 That sidebar item on fat fuck Moore and his friend Keefums getting pecked by the nags is like an early Christmas present.  And after the cocksuckers in Congress end up bankrupting the fucking country, probably the only affordable one.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 16, 2010 03:18 AM (kOMUP)

7 Jaun Williams; Republicans shut down government in 95. So-called Republican spokes-babe, does not refute.

This is why I hate these fair and balanced "debates". This babe was probably 2 years old in 95.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 03:18 AM (e4sSD)

8 The US intelligence cumulative reports on Pakistan and on Afghanistan (reported yesterday about what Obama is scheduled to relate today) state the clear and present danger that Pakistan's unsecured nuclear arsenal poses the USA, arms easily stolen and sold to anti-Americans.

But unable to see past his own nose, Peter Bergen, a fellow at the New America Foundation and NYU Center on Law and Security, argued that the odds of any terrorist group obtaining a nuclear weapon are “near zero for the foreseeable future.”

Lame duck won't cover that ass.

Posted by: maverick muse at December 16, 2010 03:25 AM (H+LJc)

9 So-called Republican spokes-babe, does not refute.

One of Fox's "painted ladies"? [Michael Savage]

Posted by: maverick muse at December 16, 2010 03:26 AM (H+LJc)

10 This babe was probably 2 years old in 95.

Shh! You'll discredit the youthful "authentic" rationale that knowledge makes one's argument irrelevant.

Posted by: maverick muse at December 16, 2010 03:29 AM (H+LJc)

11

"This babe was probably 2 years old in 95. "

Well, she's older than Dakota Fanning, and that girl knows a whole lot about domestic policy and rubbing your crotch on a microphone.

Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at December 16, 2010 03:33 AM (HaYO4)

12

Hey Fox News babe,

Shooby, dooby, dooby, doo???

Posted by: Gecko at December 16, 2010 03:39 AM (sYrWB)

13 What treachery is that? Care to vague it up a bit?

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at December 16, 2010 03:41 AM (SJ6/3)

14 Their financial guy is on  now

Says 3 lameduck Repubs already say they will vote with the Dems Bennet, Voin-a-bitch, and one other (not ME sister) couldn't type fast enough)

Said 4 other Repubs "up in the air, named a few Dems who said they would vote with the Repubs.

The key question is, will those Dems vote for cloture or not.  And part of that is, IF their vote is the make or break for cloture, and thus actually means something, will they still vote with the Repubs?

Folks I am not confident on this at all. The only thing I can see as an out is DeMint calling for a line by line reading.

Another out is the Start treaty which they supposedly are going to do today. If they drag that out forever and then DeMint demands a reading, then we may be able to get it past Jan 4.

On another score, Fox says that the House has already passed a CR that takes gov to Feb, so the Senate could PASS that bill right now w/o all the new spending and earmarks.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 03:42 AM (e4sSD)

15 One of Fox's "painted ladies"? [Michael Savage]

She is not one of the regular "news" babes. She is one they roll out as a Republican spokes-babe every now and then,

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 03:43 AM (e4sSD)

16 We need a few more Demints.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at December 16, 2010 03:44 AM (SJ6/3)

17

The socialist president plays host to capitalism

More Bama Bull Shit. Dana Millbanks touvhes on how this is mostly crap PR from Obama but he doesn't come right out and say it.

These so-called buisness leaders/CEOs were, too a man, supporters of OBama and his communist agenda.

This whole thing is transparent crap.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 03:55 AM (e4sSD)

18 16 a few more Darryl Issa's would be nice too!

Posted by: NotAMolly at December 16, 2010 03:56 AM (ADJFU)

19 And Ross Perot was the crazy one.

Posted by: Noted Ace of Spades psychologist Country Joe and the Fish at December 16, 2010 03:58 AM (le5qc)

20 May you see Helen Thomas naked everywhere you look!

... seems a strong enough curse ... if we're, and we probably are, reduced to hurling curses at treachery instead of hanging the traitors ...

Posted by: Adriane at December 16, 2010 03:59 AM (dIik4)

21

 

Argh!  My eyes. Drugde.  Is there anyone more ugly and grotesque than Harry Reid?

 

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at December 16, 2010 04:00 AM (0fzsA)

22 Since the ONT is dead and the Erin Brockovich story is in the news I'll re-post this here:

More on the Erin Brockovich hoax:

J Toxicol Environ Health A. 2002 May 24;65(10):701-46.

Is hexavalent chromium carcinogenic via ingestion? A weight-of-evidence review.


Proctor DM, Otani JM, Finley BL, Paustenbach DJ, Bland JA, Speizer N, Sargent EV.

Hexavalent chromium [Cr(VI)] is recognized as a human carcinogen via inhalation, based on elevated rates of lung cancer among occupationally exposed workers in certain industries. Cr(VI) is also genotoxic in bacterial and mammalian cell lines. In contrast, scientific panels in the United States and abroad have reviewed the weight of evidence (WOE) and decided that the available data are insufficient to conclude that Cr(VI) is an oral carcinogen.
---------

So it's not surprising that there's no cancer spike in Hinkley, California.

Posted by: Ed Anger at December 16, 2010 04:01 AM (7+pP9)

23 17-Yeah, I noticed that too, when they read who the "business leaders" were. Not one company with affiliations with the loyal opposition. How exactly is this bringing both sides together? And what sweetheart deals did they get behind closed doors? More like Monsanto's SB510?

Posted by: moki at December 16, 2010 04:03 AM (dZmFh)

24

FCC set to take over internet one more time despite Supremes already telling them once they can't

In a world with justice the head of the FCC would be hit with contempt charges and go to jail.

This is pure bull shit. The government uses tax payer money to attack freedom over and over with their limitless pockets of lawyers while the rest of us must use our own money to defend against it in court.

We in effect must pay for both sides of the case. Perhaps we should get a judge to rule that any time a government agency continues to push regulations that the court have already struck down that the top people in the agency pay for court costs PERSONALLY.

Let's have some damn accountability here people.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 04:03 AM (e4sSD)

25 Another out is the Start treaty which they supposedly are going to do today. If they drag that out forever and then DeMint demands a reading, then we may be able to get it past Jan 4.

From National Journal:

Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C., backed off threats today to force a reading of the New START arms-reduction treaty after the White House assailed the delay tactic as a “new low.”


Posted by: Tami at December 16, 2010 04:04 AM (VuLos)

26 A little 'add-on' to our Detroit conversation a couple of days ago...

12.15.10 -- The federal government today indicted former Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick, his father Bernard Kilpatrick, city contractor Bobby Ferguson, former top Kilpatrick aide Derrick Miller and former water department chief Victor Mercado as part one of the largest public corruption investigations ever in the City of Detroit.

That slug above should read ..."indicted AGAIN"...and what party is he from again?

Posted by: billygoat at December 16, 2010 04:08 AM (5qJM5)

27 Vic,   Agree with you about that Obama/CEO meeting 100%.

Nothing but a photo-op with his chums who supported him in the last election.

And GE is scum and I want the light bulb ban revoked so they will lose piles of cash.  (Plus I hate those squiggle bulbs.)

Crony capitalism is apparently the latest thing in DC.

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 16, 2010 04:08 AM (Fo83G)

28 Some sad news:

Last hurrah for the Harrier: Jump jets take to the skies for their final farewell

The sense of loss — of both the iconic fighter planes, and of a cherished piece of British military and aviation history — was symbolised in a moving tradition called the ‘walk of honour’.

After landing the jets following their last flight, the pilots walked away from their craft without a single backward glance.

The Harrier jets have been axed after falling victim to a savage round of defence cuts. Their next stop, after being decommissioned next year, will be the scrapyard.

[ . . . ]

The 700mph Harriers played a crucial role in defending the nation’s interests, seeing action in every conflict from the Falklands — where they were known as the ‘Black Death’ by Argentine pilots, after shooting down 25 enemy aircraft without a single combat loss — to the two Gulf Wars and five years in Afghanistan.

The aircraft also flew combat ­missions in Bosnia, Kosovo and Sierra Leone, providing close air support to troops on the ground.

But the 79-strong Harrier fleet was axed in the coalition GovernmentÂ’s strategic defence and security review, saving less than £1 billion. The decision sparked controversy, because scrapping the 130 RAF Tornados — which were retained — would have saved £7.4billion.

Critics are outraged at the decision, which means the Royal Navy will not have a sea-borne strike capacity until 2020 when a new aircraft carrier is kitted out with jets.

Posted by: Ed Anger at December 16, 2010 04:08 AM (7+pP9)

29

In the category of funny shit headlines

Washington area is wealthiest and most educated region in the nation, census data show

Wealthy? How so, stealing money from tax payers.

Most educated? Only if you include a degree in Political Science as “educated”.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 04:08 AM (e4sSD)

30 make her give the money back

Posted by: phoenixgirl at December 16, 2010 04:08 AM (eOXTH)

31 all of it

Posted by: phoenixgirl at December 16, 2010 04:09 AM (eOXTH)

32 21

Argh!  My eyes. Drugde.  Is there anyone more ugly and grotesque than Harry Reid?

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at December 16, 2010 08:00 AM (0fzsA)

Ummmmm...Hew-wo!

Posted by: Bawney Fwank at December 16, 2010 04:09 AM (5qJM5)

33 29-Hey now, some of us got those back when they meant something-what, I''m not sure. But they meant more then than they do now.

Posted by: moki at December 16, 2010 04:09 AM (dZmFh)

34 Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C., backed off threats today to force a reading of the New START arms-reduction treaty after the White House assailed the delay tactic as a “new low.”

I saw that. I suspect that McConnell came in and gave him a blast of shit. I also suspect that if he can turn it off, he can turn it back on again.

DeMint doesn't get along with many (most) of the "Party Leaders".

I guess he is one of those evil "purists" who will not go along to get along.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 04:11 AM (e4sSD)

35

Ummmmm...Hew-wo!

Posted by: Bawney Fwank at December 16, 2010 08:09 AM (5qJM5)

When I switched to the live feed of the House vote on DADT repeal, guess who was presiding over the vote?

Posted by: Tami at December 16, 2010 04:11 AM (VuLos)

36 Don't miss the how to be a hobo near the Darth and C3P0 diving masks.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at December 16, 2010 04:11 AM (SJ6/3)

37 Crony capitalism is apparently the latest thing in DC.

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 16, 2010 08:08 AM (Fo83G)

I would prefer that we not use that term because this kind of crap has NOTHING to do with capitalism. Neither is it really corporatism as the MFM likes to say.

Lets say it like it is; it is government corruption pure and simple. The government passes laws to support GE in both cash and favoritism. GE turns around and uses large portions of that cash to support the politicians that passed the laws.

In days of your they called that bribery and put people on both sides in jail. Not so anymore. Hell the worst thing that happens is they will get "censored" in congress. That is unless they are Republicans.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 04:15 AM (e4sSD)

38 Posted by: FlaviusJulius at December 16, 2010 07:41 AM (SJ6/3)

Not a fan of "Lord of The Rings?" That's Saruman's treachery.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at December 16, 2010 04:17 AM (LH6ir)

39 Hey Gabe, what's your take on Bachmann's contention that the tax bill violates the Constitution because it didn't originate in the House.  Kinda tricky isn't it because the bill merely extends a law already on the books (tax or otherwise).  It doesn't "create" a new tax provision.

And who would have standing to bring suit?

Posted by: Sukie Tawdry at December 16, 2010 04:18 AM (jbCcb)

40 In days of your

Stupid; In days of yore.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 04:19 AM (e4sSD)

41 And the Republican party asks for more of commoner's money to continue to (fight) support the Democrats... I say, It is time to merge into one obi one, let's give Oboma another 4 more, hell let's make him permanent king...and give back majority rule to Pelosi...push the country into total Democrat Mayhem...them we'll need to give China new chairmanships and ztar roles since it is their money, and will most likely be their mortgage notes...no more money without representation...let's teach our children well about communist doctrines, they are going to need it to submit... Merry DemoCrass to all!

Posted by: Laughingmyasoff at December 16, 2010 04:22 AM (VHUBE)

42 Hey Gabe, what's your take on Bachmann's contention that the tax bill violates the Constitution because it didn't originate in the House.

My take is that it is unconstitutional, unless they did that BS ploy like they did with the healthscam bill where they took a bill that had already been passed in the House and amended it to strike everything in the existing bill and replace it with the new stuff.

I would have liked to see one of the States challenge the healthscam bill on that score as well so we could put a stop to that kind of shit, but as far as I know they have not done that.

BTW, the House has passed a CR to take the gov to Fe 2011.

As far as getting standing it all depends on which federal court you take it to. Whoever files suit would have to go "court shopping". That is the sad thing about the law in this country now.

There is no law.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 04:23 AM (e4sSD)

43 McLame on Fox now just said he will demand the pork bill be read!

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 04:27 AM (e4sSD)

44

Speaking of court shopping:

A recent report by a reputable legal organization crowning Philadelphia as the country’s number-one “judicial hellhole” for its hyperactive civil courts has small businesses across the state worried and determined to work with the incoming Governor to curb lawsuit abuse.
 
“The Philadelphia court system is trying to market itself as a national destination for multimillion-dollar lawsuits,” said Kevin Shivers, Director of the National Federation of Independent Business in Pennsylvania (NFIB). “Their goal is to attract judge-shopping lawyers from around the country to file cases in Philadelphia by stacking the deck against defendants.”
 
Building an industry around jack-pot jury awards, said Shivers, “is like raising a baby alligator in your tub. The bigger it gets the more danger you’re in.”
 
Shivers pointed to a report by the non-profit American Tort Reform Association (ATRA), which singled out PhiladelphiaÂ’s court system.
 
In its report, ATRA concluded that the number of jury awards in excess of $1 million tripled in Philadelphia this year because of procedural changes undertaken by the judges who run the system.  According to the organization those changes are intended to produce bigger lawsuits that will draw lawyers from around the country seeking to maximize their chances for a massive pay day. The city is trying to build a “judicial tourism” industry, says the group, which small businesses fear will quickly spin out of control.
 
“That may generate more revenue for the court system, but it will very quickly drive new businesses and investors out of Pennsylvania,” said Shivers. “We’ve already got one of the most hostile tax and regulatory environments in the country, thanks to the previous administration. Now we’ve got judges in Philadelphia conspiring to turn Pennsylvania into a haven for tort lawyers. It’s a blueprint for economic disaster.”

Posted by: Ed Anger at December 16, 2010 04:29 AM (7+pP9)

45 Some of us in the 2012 thread yesterday say it was too early to start arguing/flaming about the 2012 election. The politicians don't think it is too early.

Eye of Newt campaigning in SC now
 

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 04:30 AM (e4sSD)

46 California is determined to prove to the world that they like the bone more than all of the Kardashian hootchies combined by adopting AB32 Cap & Trade legislation.

The long slow slide into the sea can't happen soon enough for them.

Posted by: Fritz at December 16, 2010 04:31 AM (GwPRU)

47

Want to stimulate the housing market?

Then don't do this:

New sprinkler mandate starting

The cost to build a one- or two-family home will likely rise in 2011, partially due to inaction from the state House of Representatives.

According to the 2009 Uniform Construction Code, all new one- and two-family dwellings will have to be equipped with automatic fire sprinkler systems.

The state House did not vote on House Bill 1196 that included Senate amendments which would have made one- and two-family dwellings exempt from the code changes.

Instead, construction costs will rise $1 to $1.50 per square foot.

“It’s going to add another $8,000 - $12,000 to a house,” said Ken Shino, of Dakan Enterprises Inc., who said it was bad timing economically. “But it’s something ... we’ll have to deal with it.”

Posted by: Ed Anger at December 16, 2010 04:34 AM (7+pP9)

48 “Their goal is to attract judge-shopping lawyers from around the country to file cases in Philadelphia by stacking the deck against defendants.”

I don't see how they can do that based on that "class action" suit law that was passed early in the Bush Adm when the Republicans had majority.

Well, on second thought, I guess if the suit does not gain class status it can bypass the federal law.

I smell a federal lawsuit on this as well. All it would take is another State, probably red, to file suit against PA. That would take it immediately to the Supreme Court under original jurisdiction.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 04:35 AM (e4sSD)

49 F&F talking about the 1994 government shutdown, the "bad" things about it. Their loo at the bottom says "partisan bickering". Not a damn word about the whole thing being planned by Bill Clinton and the Dems BEFORE the House even submitted their budget. The plan all along was to shutdown the government and blame it on Newt.

One thing they dd say, Susan "Scrunt" Collins (DIABLO-ME) has said she will support it. Also Voinabitch (C-OH) says since he is leaving anyway might as well get his pork in for OH.

Right there is enough to gain cloture. We have been screwed by the DIABLOs again people. Now tell me why we MUST elect liberals when they destroy the party name.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 07:10 AM (e4sSD)


This man speaks for me.


Posted by: DiogenesLamp at December 16, 2010 04:36 AM (/G5LI)

50 35

Ummmmm...Hew-wo!

Posted by: Bawney Fwank at December 16, 2010 08:09 AM

When I switched to the live feed of the House vote on DADT repeal, guess who was presiding over the vote?

Posted by: Tami at December 16, 2010 08:11 AM (VuLos)

And you thought I was repulsive.

Posted by: The Elephant Man at December 16, 2010 04:37 AM (5qJM5)

51 If you prick us, do we not lactate?

Posted by: Michael Moore & Keefums for the Mansiere at December 16, 2010 04:38 AM (KVjkC)

52 7 Jaun Williams; Republicans shut down government in 95. So-called Republican spokes-babe, does not refute.

This is why I hate these fair and balanced "debates". This babe was probably 2 years old in 95.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 07:18 AM (e4sSD)


I have pointed out repeatedly that when the Government was shut down in 95, the media blamed the Republican Congress, even though Bill Clinton refused to accept the budget. When Reagan Did the Same thing (in 84 I think) They blamed the President.

So let me get this straight. Congress submits a budget which the President doesn't agree with. It's the President's fault if he is Reagan, but it's Not his fault if he's Clinton.

Same thing with congress. If the Congress is Democrat, it's the Republican President's fault, but if the Congress is Republican, it's the Republican Congresses fault.

Yeah, Got it.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at December 16, 2010 04:41 AM (/G5LI)

53 I have a bad feeling that the Democrats will get everything they are trying for.

Posted by: Dr. Heinz Doofensmirtz at December 16, 2010 04:43 AM (1Zk5q)

54

The local Democrap PR rag weighs in on our Senators vote on the "Tax Deal"

U.S. Sens. Lindsey Graham and Jim DeMint once against canceled each otherÂ’s votes on major legislation Wednesday as Graham backed but DeMint opposed a compromise two-year extension of the Bush-era tax cuts.

Graham said the deal between President Barack Obama and Republican congressional leaders isn’t perfect – but that it achieves the critical need to prevent tax hikes on some Americans.

Note they reference the deal made with OBama. The Senate version that was passed have very damn little to do with the "deal".

Once again Graham, and this rag, are lying shit-weasels. 

Here me Graham aids reading this blog. I campaigned against you in 2008, if I am still around in 2012 I will work harder at it. Your RINO ass will be PRIMARIED.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 04:43 AM (e4sSD)

55 From National Journal:

Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C., backed off threats today to force a reading of the New START arms-reduction treaty after the White House assailed the delay tactic as a “new low.”


Posted by: Tami at December 16, 2010 08:04 AM (VuLos)


Why in hell does our side always give away it's winning hand?

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at December 16, 2010 04:44 AM (/G5LI)

56 May a Keebler Elf do unspeakable things to your Townhouse crackers !
This is the only Elvish curse I know of ....

Posted by: AmericanDawg at December 16, 2010 04:45 AM (sAmPK)

57 Maybe there ought to be some acknowledge of the Voyager achievement. I remember as a kid watching the images coming in from Jupiter.

Posted by: Dr. Heinz Doofensmirtz at December 16, 2010 04:46 AM (1Zk5q)

58

Who called Kwame Kilpatrick "a great mayor" who was doing "an outstanding job" -- and he was "grateful to call him a friend."?

Posted by: Ed Anger at December 16, 2010 04:46 AM (7+pP9)

59 Critics are outraged at the decision, which means the Royal Navy will not have a sea-borne strike capacity until 2020 when a new aircraft carrier is kitted out with jets.

Posted by: Ed Anger at December 16, 2010 08:08 AM (7+pP9)


The Brits have lost their freakin minds. On this and other things as well.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at December 16, 2010 04:47 AM (/G5LI)

60 I have pointed out repeatedly that when the Government was shut down in 95, the media blamed the Republican Congress, even though Bill Clinton refused to accept the budget. When Reagan Did the Same thing (in 84 I think) They blamed the President.

It is even worse than that. A memo was unearthed and published by some of the conservative media a few years ago. This memo was between Clinton people and the Dems in congress detailing the plans to cause a partial gov shutdown over the budget and blame it on Newt and the Republicans in the House. The Memo was BEFORE the House had even submitted the budget.

It was proof positive that the Dems and Clinton had engineered the shutdown for political shit. What's more it wasn't really a shutdown as they kept almost all the gov going except for a few things that were popular like National Parks.

That latter should sound familiar as they is what our current commie leaders in urban ares do now when they don't get their tax increases. Police, fire, and teachers hardest hit. (unless they are union of course)

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 04:47 AM (e4sSD)

61

Geezez, after six months, that sleazy and incompetent putz, Eric Holder, and (supposedly) his sleazy and bumbling, incompetent staff at the DOJ still can't put together a case for espionage, conspiracy and extradition for Julien Assange.

But it took those slimy attorneys only 48 hours to file a lawsuit against one of our own states, Arizona, and it took them only 24 hours to file a lawsuit to protect a Muslim school teacher's "right" to take three weeks off from work to visit Mecca, and they dismissed a blantant case of voter intimidation by Black Panthers.  WTF is going on there? This administration continues to protect extremists on the pretext that they do so in the name of social justice. They are insane.

Posted by: Brian at December 16, 2010 04:48 AM (sYrWB)

62 The sprinklers will be a real joy here in NH...a power outage will result in the ruin of your entire house when the pipes break... Dems are like moths being attracted to the light....they are committing suicide with our money. Uglier than Harry Reid Rosie Odonnell Patty Smythe(now) Barney Frank Nancy Pelosi Anthony Weiner Keith Richards (then and Now) Joe Cocker (then and now) Seal Sheila Lee Jackson (military Michael Jackson look) Michelle Obama (before make over)

Posted by: ford the IINO. Independent in name only at December 16, 2010 04:49 AM (Ki7fm)

63 Posted by: Ed Anger at December 16, 2010 08:34 AM (7+pP9)

We have a similar law working its way through our FDR Republican legislature that was started several years ago. The fascists abound all over the country.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 04:50 AM (e4sSD)

Posted by: Mervis Winter at December 16, 2010 04:50 AM (nF4Jh)

65 Elf curses usually involve running around a tree( we have a ton of them in NH) 3X... be back in a few ...

Posted by: ford the IINO. Independent in name only at December 16, 2010 04:51 AM (Ki7fm)

66 Posted by: Fritz at December 16, 2010 08:31 AM (GwPRU)

I lived in California for 20 years, beginning in the early 80s. It was a great place; vibrant, boundless energy, and physically beautiful. After 30 years of progressive politics it has become a place with no spark, driven only by the inertia of government money, and the infrastructure is falling apart, so it is no longer quite so attractive to the eye.

It's a sad thing, but perhaps the creative destruction of the markets is in play here?


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at December 16, 2010 04:53 AM (LH6ir)

67

Is it wrong that I want to see Michael Moore chased down and torn apart by frenzied feminists? (I would prefer literally, but I'll settle for figuratively)

I don't think it is.

As for all the other news: the country is less than a half step away from being permenently screwed, and at this point I doubt very much we can keep our "way of life" going (because we've been signing it away for the past 60 odd years); either these dipshits in government get serious about saving the country or...well, we all know what happens when a republic fails.

Interesting times.

Posted by: unknown jane at December 16, 2010 04:56 AM (5/yRG)

68

45--Philly has two court systems set up and run specifically to attract litigation "business"--the mass tort program, and the commerce court program.  Philly is not alone in this regard--many large cities have set these programs up to compete against similar programs in other cities for litigation "business" benefitting lawyers, judges, reporters and hangers on.  the court system collects fees from all of litigants and lawyers to participate in cases in those courts.  Jurors--local citizens forced to donate their time--make the scam work, handing out verdicts that attract new filings, and charging nothing for their "services."

As other philly area morons will confirm, litigation is and has been the only growth industry in town for the better part of three decades.

49--most mass tort and commerce cases are not filed as class actions.

Posted by: palinbot #2,503,588 at December 16, 2010 04:57 AM (K/USr)

69

God, just when you think the world can't get any more F'ed up:

Austria: Judge Rules That Yodeling Offends Muslims

Because yodeling in Austria is so uncommon and all.  Next time you see that tow-headed little brat Heidi, shoot her in the head.  Nasty little bigot that she is.

Posted by: MWR at December 16, 2010 04:57 AM (4df7R)

70 That latter should sound familiar as they is what our current commie leaders in urban ares do now when they don't get their tax increases. Police, fire, and teachers hardest hit. (unless they are union of course)

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 08:47 AM (e4sSD)

This is a variation on a tactic the Dems have always used. When they are threatened with budget cuts, they claim that Police and Fire Protection will be compromised, or that Teachers will be laid off. They never threaten to get rid of meddlesome bureaucrats in government, or bloated general service employees. . 

I recall reading that Clinton got okays from the Various public service unions to help him make as much noise as he possibly could about the evil Republicans shutting down the government. (No Union Members were injured in the filming of this farce.)

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at December 16, 2010 04:57 AM (/G5LI)

71 The Brits have lost their freakin minds. On this and other things as well.

Back in 2002 an English friend asked if I'd seen the fleet in Portsmouth the day before. A bit puzzled, I said I'd seen five or six ships. 'Well you've seen the fleet then, that's all we've got these days', and he wasn't entirely joking.

Posted by: Retread at December 16, 2010 05:00 AM (RsWZ9)

72 Dems are like moths being attracted to the light....they are committing suicide with our money.

Posted by: ford the IINO. Independent in name only at December 16, 2010 08:49 AM (Ki7fm)

If only it were that. The ugly truth is that we are handcuffed to them when they jump. They are not just killing themselves, but they are taking the rest of us with them!

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at December 16, 2010 05:00 AM (/G5LI)

73 Ed Anger
Critics are outraged at the decision

How quickly all become critics after what remains of Britain's Navy sinks. Then again, Leftards are so convoluted, they'll say the Navy "deserved" it, "safer without the military" = "guns kill" shit. gag!

Posted by: maverick muse at December 16, 2010 05:02 AM (H+LJc)

74 Vic,  ok on changing from "crony capitalism" to "corruption."

The only thing about that is with moderates you have to use the crony thing because they don't understand why it's corruption.  Maybe I should use "sweetheart deals" instead when talking to them.

The light bulb thing ticks me off  and is NOT liked by a lot of people.  I am thinking pointing out how GE makes the money on those bulbs (which are all made in China) while American workers (like the last bulb company in America which just closed) are laid off.   And the bulbs cost more money and are dangerous if broken and will pollute landfills unless they are disposed of at approved sites,  usually miles away from your home.

I absolutely loathe GE and think it is nothing but a racket.  I call Cap and Trade "the GE enrichment and payback bill"  because of all of the provisions for MAKING people buy new,  approved appliances and special light bulbs and such.  You would think people would be up in arms about this,  but I have found that many people ae unaware.

Meanwhile,  I am stocking up on light bulbs.


Posted by: Miss Marple at December 16, 2010 05:03 AM (Fo83G)

75 49--most mass tort and commerce cases are not filed as class actions.

I believe I said that, or tried to, in the second part of my post.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 05:04 AM (e4sSD)

76 From the Dana Milbank sidebar:

"It was probably inevitable that the Tea Party activists would be betrayed, but the speed with which congressional Republicans have reverted to business-as-usual has been impressive."


The business as usual Republicans are the same POS Republicans who have been there these last two years.  The new session of Congress hasn't started yet, Dana Fucknuts..  But you know that..  you just want to use anything to slam the Tea Party.. 


*whew* got that off my chest..

Posted by: Dave C at December 16, 2010 05:05 AM (EI00+)

77 In days of your

Stupid; In days of yore.

...Easy for Eeyore to say, in days of your yore.

Posted by: maverick muse at December 16, 2010 05:06 AM (H+LJc)

78 Bob Feller lived a proud life Then, on Dec. 7, 1941, the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor, and two days later, Feller — the best pitcher in the game, and one of the highest-paid players at $30,000 a year — enlisted in the Navy; he was sworn in by former heavyweight boxing champion Gene Tunney. Feller didn’t have to enlist. He had a deferment; he was caring for his ailing father, but he went to war anyway. Can you imagine a star baseball player doing that today? Fifty-seven years later, I asked Feller why he enlisted. He screamed into the phone, “We were losing a war, a big war, we were losing big in the Pacific … any red-blooded American with a gut in his body would have gotten busy.” The former anti-aircraft gunner screamed again: “We took back the Pacific. I can look anyone in the eye and say, ‘I was there.’” Feller earned eight battle stars as part of the chief gun crew of the USS Alabama, but he missed nearly four prime seasons due to military service. It cost him around 75 victories, which would have placed him near 350 wins, not to mention all the lost strikeouts, shutouts and complete games. And yet, he told me in 1997, without screaming, “I’ve never once thought about all the prime years that I missed. I did what I had to do for my country. We won that war. I’m as proud of serving as anything I’ve ever done in my life.”

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 16, 2010 05:06 AM (0GFWk)

79

crony capitalism = fascism.

you can't really call it that to any great effect since the left and children everywhere have turned it into a catch-all insult for everything conservative and responsible, but that's exactly what Mussolini and Franco did.  Gathered businesses very close, directed them centrally, picked winners and losers.

 

Posted by: Truman North at December 16, 2010 05:07 AM (HLGCA)

80 Meanwhile,  I am stocking up on light bulbs.

There is a good chance that Republicans in the House are going to try to get that light bulb ban repealed. However, that will be a new non-budget bill subject to the Senate and Obama.

On the disposal thing, in red States/counties you can simply throw them away. In States and counties run by the eco-tards you can operate under a modified version of the SSS rules:

Shoot, shovel, and shutup

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 05:08 AM (e4sSD)

81

Oh, for the love of God.  As if the Austria story wasn't bad enough.  This one just sickens me.

Rape and murder case delayed in court: Suspect is an illegal immigrant, deaf, and mute

JAMES CITY COUNTY, Va. (WAVY) - There was another heartbreaking delay in court Wednesday for the family of a 16-year-old girl who police say was raped and murdered nearly six years ago by an illegal immigrant who is also deaf and mute.

This is the paragraph that makes me sick to my stomach:

Unless Oswaldo Martinez, who prosecutors say is a perfect DNA match to the killer, learns enough sign language to communicate with his attorney, he might never stand trial.

 

Posted by: MWR at December 16, 2010 05:08 AM (4df7R)

82

There is a good chance that Republicans in the House are going to try to get that light bulb ban repealed

Over my dead body, peasants.

Posted by: Fred Upton, Chair of Energy Designate at December 16, 2010 05:09 AM (HLGCA)

83

They should've hired me:

Russia's too thin 'designer' uniform leads to pneumonia and flu

The Russian army's expensive new "designer" uniform has been criticised for being too thin after hundreds of young conscripts in Siberia kitted out in it fell ill with pneumonia and flu.

Parents of the sick conscripts blamed the army's new uniform which was created, amid much fanfare, by the flamboyant Moscow fashion designer Valentin Yudashkin.

Mr Yudashkin, who is famous in Russia for dressing Kremlin wives, won a multi-million pound tender to give the Red Army's successor a fashion makeover in 2007 after soldiers complained that their old uniforms made them look like they were serving in a poor developing country's army.

But parents said that the uniforms, which were debuted at a grand Red Square military parade in 2008, had put fashion before practicality.

"On the street they (our boys) literally felt naked," a relative of one of the soldiers told the government daily newspaper Rossiiskaya Gazeta.

"They gave our lads army boots made from fake leather with cardboard inner soles, socks, and light clothing clearly not suitable for winter."

Posted by: Merrill McPeak at December 16, 2010 05:09 AM (7+pP9)

84 Ronald Reagan used to be a spokesman for GE. Why do you hate Ronald Reagan?

Posted by: The Alan Colmes School of Debate at December 16, 2010 05:10 AM (KVjkC)

85 Truman North,

All the more reason to maintain the integrity of definitions lest all decay into words, just words. How else will kids learn that they are the epitome of their own insults?

Posted by: maverick muse at December 16, 2010 05:10 AM (H+LJc)

86 Can you imagine a star baseball player doing that today?

We know of a star football player who did that immediately after 9/11.

Posted by: maverick muse at December 16, 2010 05:10 AM (H+LJc)

87 crony capitalism = fascism.

I don't know that I would call what the left calls "crony capitalism" fascism.

Certainly the "regulation side" is that in a manner, but as I said earlier, it is mostly old fashion corruption on a large scale.

We do have true fascism here on a large scale. The EPA is a fine example.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 05:11 AM (e4sSD)

88

98% of kids are absolutely lost and doomed to be functionally illiterate and innumerate.  We're two generations removed at least from having an infrastructure to provide them with the ability to think.

And don't get me started on what passes for nutrition and psychiatric care.

Posted by: Truman North at December 16, 2010 05:12 AM (HLGCA)

89

Posted by: Brian at December 16, 2010 08:48 AM (sYrWB)

Ann Coulter's column today is about this very thing.  It's a good read!

Posted by: MWR at December 16, 2010 05:12 AM (4df7R)

90

Unless Oswaldo Martinez, who prosecutors say is a perfect DNA match to the killer, learns enough sign language to communicate with his attorney, he might never stand trial.

 Posted by: MWR at December 16, 2010 09:08 AM (4df7R)

Another case for SSS.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 05:13 AM (e4sSD)

91

79...and how many pro baseball players are signing up now?

**although there are/were some up and comings who did: friends of a family friend lost their son in Afghanistan some months ago -- boy had a full ride on a baseball scholarship; turned it down because "his country needed him"...died within the first month of setting his boots down

We get to loose young people like that...we get to keep the other ones (and we support them, because, hey, we like our sports), then we wonder why the country is going downhill.  Whatever else, we deserve what we get.

Posted by: unknown jane at December 16, 2010 05:14 AM (5/yRG)

92 OK, back to the crap.  Be well, fellow machine fodder.

Posted by: Truman North at December 16, 2010 05:14 AM (HLGCA)

93 Austria: Judge Rules That Yodeling Offends Muslims

Because yodeling in Austria is so uncommon and all.  Next time you see that tow-headed little brat Heidi, shoot her in the head.  Nasty little bigot that she is.


But you're a bigot if you oppose loudspeakers outside of mosques announcing the call to prayer 5 times a day.. 

You know the call..  It sounds like the yells and groans of every man who has had their prostate checked for the first time.. 

Posted by: Dave C at December 16, 2010 05:15 AM (EI00+)

94 No way dude. Bush was totally a fascist. Like... Enron and Haliburton and stuff.

Posted by: guy with $20,000 in student loan debt at December 16, 2010 05:16 AM (KVjkC)

95 Olympia Snowe votes Y on DADT and it passes in Senate.

Send her to a FOB in Afghanistan.

Posted by: Boris Yeltsin at December 16, 2010 05:17 AM (4sQwu)

96 duck and cover

with your Yuletide lover
underneath the mistletoe


...and my mother says I'm unfestive.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 16, 2010 05:21 AM (4ucxv)

97 . . . And the bulbs cost more money and are dangerous if broken and will pollute landfills unless they are disposed of at approved sites,  usually miles away from your home.

No problem.. Congress will pass a law saying it's illegal to simply throw away your old bulbs.. 

It will be two fold:  One, you pay a small deposit when you buy the bulbs..

Two: when they burn out, you will be required by law to take them to a federally sanctioned recycling plant and you can get your deposit back.. 

And garbage men will be deputized to inform on you if you happen to throw away any bulbs on trash day..

Problem solved. 

Posted by: Dave C at December 16, 2010 05:23 AM (EI00+)

98

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama's expansion of the war in Afghanistan has eroded the power of the al-Qaida terrorists who attacked America in 2001 and the resurgent Taliban militants who gave them cover, according to his own government's review. The findings ensure that Obama will stay the course, with U.S. forces to remain at war through 2014.

 

So Bush's surge in Iraq was a failure before it started but GeneralFeldmarschall von Barry's plan in Afghanistan is a complete success because Barry says it is.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 16, 2010 05:24 AM (1Jaio)

99 We get to loose young people like that...we get to keep the other ones (and we support them, because, hey, we like our sports), then we wonder why the country is going downhill.

On the list of people destroying the country, pro baseball players are pretty far down the list.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 16, 2010 05:26 AM (4ucxv)

100 98  good one!  I'm going to have to share that on my fb(of course, then there's the questions to be answered if the freaking hajis actually do pull something off on Christmas...)

Posted by: unknown jane at December 16, 2010 05:26 AM (5/yRG)

101 And don't get me started on what passes for nutrition and psychiatric care.

That's why you're shelling out $5B for my salad bars, wingnut.

Posted by: Michelle O at December 16, 2010 05:27 AM (4ucxv)

102

So Bush's surge in Iraq was a failure before it started but GeneralFeldmarschall von Barry's plan in Afghanistan is a complete success because Barry says it is.

Well, duh.

Posted by: The Media at December 16, 2010 05:28 AM (4df7R)

103 "Everyone should believe in something.  I believe I'll have another drink."

Posted by: W C Fields at December 16, 2010 05:29 AM (JpFM9)

104 Dear Jim DeMint and the rest of you spineless RINO retards,

In the six weeks since the election you have done an excellent job of reminding us why we didn't vote for you dorkwads in 2008.  Your subjects are sharpening their pitchforks. 

Posted by: John Galt at December 16, 2010 05:29 AM (F/4zf)

105

Can you get high off of carpet glue?  Working hours windowless office renovations are my favorite!

I typed this using my last two brain cells.

Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at December 16, 2010 05:30 AM (HaYO4)

106 Glenn Greenwald writes a sob story about Bradley Manning's solitary confinement.

"The type of prolonged solitary confinement to which Manning has been subjected for many months is widely viewed around the world as highly injurious, inhumane, punitive, and arguably even a form of torture."


Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at December 16, 2010 05:30 AM (PLvLS)

107 Over at a military blog I used to frequent the limeys were saying that deficits were a made up problem.I just observed,all of Europe has gone nuts and we are folowing(our politicians are anyway).

Posted by: steevy at December 16, 2010 05:30 AM (FP3hF)

108 That salad bar law is an unfunded mandate.

There was a school superintendent on Fox yesterday who said it would cost them an additional 25 cents per meal to provide the salad bars and other approved ingredients.

And the federal government will be reimbursing 11 cents per meal max,  IF you comply with all aspects and even then not for 3 years,  although the program starts next year.

My granddaughter is going to insist on taking her lunch every day if they are going to cut out chicken nuggets and replace it with a chef's salad.

Plus,  it will only be a matter of time until salad bars are found to cause salmonella or some other disease due to unwashed imported lettuce.

Grrrr.

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 16, 2010 05:32 AM (Fo83G)

109 Everyone is jumping on this Erin Brockovich story way too fast.  This smells like another MSM rope-a-dope "look how they fucked us over" meme.  I'm going to wait for the rest of the story.

I have 4 wheeled around Hinkley for thirty years.  Something is very wrong with the vegetation there.  I know families from there.  I have been to Lockhart where the plant was, any times.  The cottonwoods around the houses, that survive almost anything, are dead or dying.  It is a living ghost town because everyone who could get away from there is gone.  It used to be full of dairy farms!  Howard Hughes had an airstrip for experimental aircraft there.

I learned long ago never to trust any MSM science story because people like my ex, who don't know shit and hardly care, write them in twenty minutes and move on. 

This story smells bad.

Posted by: SurferDoc at December 16, 2010 05:32 AM (o3bYL)

110

101 Really?  When we have made a vast culture around the idolizing of such people?  When we have made it abundantly clear to our children that those are the worthy people of society?  And that these sports stars can engage in all manner of illegal, immoral, corrupt, decadent, and just frankly vile behavior...as long as they are stars, they will be excused everything...by everybody -- what have the children been taught there, huh?

 (well, them and Hollywood celebrities... and compounded that by teaching our children at the same time that being an inventor, a soldier, even a statesman -- as opposed to a politician: those are somewhat idolized too, at least the horridly corrupt are -- is one of the worst things one could be, a person like that is likely to ostracized by society and meet a bad end)

 

No Heather, they are very much a symptom of what is very wrong with us as a country -- and the symptom now plays the part of perpetuating the disease.

Posted by: unknown jane at December 16, 2010 05:33 AM (5/yRG)

111 It's official.  Obama has fucked up even the basic truths:

Is the Periodic Table of Elements Wrong?

Posted by: momma at December 16, 2010 05:34 AM (penCf)

112 @25 Another out is the Start treaty which they supposedly are going to do today. If they drag that out forever and then DeMint demands a reading, then we may be able to get it past Jan 4. From National Journal: Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C., backed off threats today to force a reading of the New START arms-reduction treaty after the White House assailed the delay tactic as a “new low.” Posted by: Tami at December 16, 2010 08:04 AM (VuLos) This kinda thing really pisses me off. In essence, when DeMint backs off his promise of forcing a line-by-line reading, he is agreeing with Obama that that tactic was just too low. So, what happens when he tries it again, is it too low then? Idiots. If you're going to play hardball to help the country, play hardball. If not, go sit in the corner with your knitting and drink a nice cup of mint tea.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 16, 2010 05:34 AM (I49Jm)

113
It will be two fold:  One, you pay a small deposit when you buy the bulbs..

Two: when they burn out, you will be required by law to take them to a federally sanctioned recycling plant and you can get your deposit back.. 

And garbage men will be deputized to inform on you if you happen to throw away any bulbs on trash day..

You won't get your deposit back because it will be used to subsidize the free bulbs for the same bunch that the Democrats insist are too poor to drop twenty bucks on a photo ID to vote. I'd also wager that in addition to the garbage men sifting through your trash, an entire new department will be created with a fully-staffed phone bank of government agents who are to regularly call you to verify the status of your bulb and answer any questions as to why the smart grid has shut them off again.

Posted by: Blackford Oakes at December 16, 2010 05:36 AM (KVjkC)

114 unknown jane--yeah, really.  I think you've confused baseball with basketball, it really undercuts your argument about "illegal, immoral, corrupt, decadent, and just frankly vile behavior."

Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 16, 2010 05:37 AM (4ucxv)

115

This story smells bad.
Posted by: SurferDoc at December 16, 2010 09:32 AM (o3bYL)

From what I read, they looked at cancer rates for Hinkley, comparing across years to see if the rates went up or went down, and how the rates compared to other areas. That doesn't seem like relevant information.

The relevant cancer rates will be those of Hinkley residents either at the time of the contamination or later, not the rate for the Hinkley area. Just looking at the Hinkley area ignores residents who were exposed, but then moved away from Hinkley.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at December 16, 2010 05:40 AM (XBUdh)

116 No matter what the particulars are of the case, Erin Brockovitch is a brainless scrunt whose rancid cooter has been so bored-out by low-lifes that she whistles in the wind when a breeze is stronger than 5 mph.  Having that fugly hag portrayed by the equally witless Julia Roberts is worse than having Val Plames' drooping not-so-much-funbags played by Naomi Watts' firm cans.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 16, 2010 05:41 AM (kOMUP)

117 But anyway, we have highly-paid submorons indoctrinating children about race and hate instead of teaching them to read, millions of young men flitting about shooting each other between knocking up serial never-married high school dropouts who throw hissy fits because their gov't checks aren't big enough, millions of foreign nationals resident in the country illegally being encouraged by the gov't to vote and suck up social services but getting paid under the table to avoid employement taxes, a President hell-bent on destroying every productive business in the country, shall I keep going?...but baseball is destroying the country?  That's beyond caricature.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 16, 2010 05:42 AM (4ucxv)

Posted by: momma at December 16, 2010 05:47 AM (penCf)

119 I'm just amused by the cage-match that's started between the pseudo-feminists and Michael the Hutt.

Popcorn futures.  I'm tellin' yall...

Posted by: AoSHQ's DarkLord© at December 16, 2010 05:48 AM (GBXon)

120 When you lost Barbra Streisand. . .

http://mediaite.com/a/gkjip

Posted by: Dave C at December 16, 2010 05:50 AM (EI00+)

121 It's official.  Obama has fucked up even the basic truths:

Is the Periodic Table of Elements Wrong?

Posted by: momma at December 16, 2010 09:34 AM (penCf)

Infuckingcredible.  How do you calculate moles with a "range" of weights?  Cocksucking idiots who jack around with everything for subjective political reasons.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 16, 2010 05:51 AM (kOMUP)

122 Top Ten things that John Edwards said when he found out that Elizabeth died.. http://bit.ly/g5ZaBI


Too soon?

Posted by: Dave C at December 16, 2010 05:52 AM (EI00+)

123 KEY POINTS: * Initial claims dipped slightly to 420,000 in the week ended December 11, matching the median forecast in a Reuters poll of economists, from a revised 423,000 in the prior week. * However, continuing claims, which exclude the millions of Americans relying on extended benefits, rose to 4.14 million in the week ended December 4. * That was far higher than the reading of 4.07 million analysts had expected, and the prior week's figure was also revised up considerably. * The Commerce Department said on Thursday housing starts rose 3.9 percent to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 555,000 units. * October's starts were revised up to a 534,000-unit pace from the previously reported 1-1/2 year low rate of 519,000 units. * Analysts polled by Reuters had expected housing starts to rise to a 550,000-unit rate.

Remember, this does not show the number of Americans either trying to claim an illness to be accepted for SS, or taking their SS early.  I can't find the article but the number of Americans moving from unemployment to SS is staggering!

Posted by: momma at December 16, 2010 05:54 AM (penCf)

124 There is no curse in Elvish, Entish, or the tongues of Men for this treachery.

Fingolfin!

Posted by: Rocks at December 16, 2010 05:56 AM (D5Tn1)

125 In essence, when DeMint backs off his promise of forcing a line-by-line reading, he is agreeing with Obama that that tactic was just too low.

No it means that the Republican Party bosses in the Senate got to him with threats. There is no love lost there.

Look to McConnell for this one, not DeMint.

And for the one who called DeMint a RINO, I have to ask "what color is the sky in the universe you live in"?

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 05:57 AM (e4sSD)

126 There is no curse in Elvish, Entish, or the tongues of Men for this treachery.

Fingolfin!

Belgium!

Posted by: nickless© at December 16, 2010 05:57 AM (MMC8r)

127

Infuckingcredible.  How do you calculate moles with a "range" of weights? 

Shit. I never really understood what the hell I was doing when doing molal balances in the first place. Wish I had.

Posted by: maddogg at December 16, 2010 05:57 AM (OlN4e)

128 There is no curse in Elvish, Entish, or the tongues of Men for this treachery.



Belgium

Posted by: Dave C at December 16, 2010 05:58 AM (EI00+)

129

Posted by: nickless� at December 16, 2010 09:57 AM (MMC8r)


Curse you..

Posted by: Dave C at December 16, 2010 05:59 AM (EI00+)

130

119  I said, they are a symptom, and now they help to perpetuate the problem; but if you want to debate this:

And who do those young people who are shooting each other in the back idolize?  Whose jerseys do they wear?  Whose behavior do they often emulate?  How many of them have adults who encourage them in this -- if they show some talent -- how many have adults who write them off -- if they don't show any talent?

Come to think of it -- how many PTAs and parents put pressure on the school boards to make sure the big three sports are getting a bunch of funding...compared to the pressure put on school boards to pass reasonable budgets and make sure the educational and behavioral standards at the schools don't slip or maybe pressure to have them improve?

But I'll admit -- the "circuses" are much more entertaining and the gladiators are just sooo cool. 

Don't get me wrong, I like sports as much as anybody ...but it's time to admit: we've all been a little guilty of the "bread and circuses" game; by our own behaviors we've fucked ourselves over royally (and it's been everybody, not just liberals, not just Democrats, not just social cons or fiscal cons or whatever -- all of us).

Posted by: unknown jane at December 16, 2010 06:00 AM (5/yRG)

131 It's official.  Obama has fucked up even the basic truths:

Is the Periodic Table of Elements Wrong?
Posted by: momma at December 16, 2010 09:34 AM (penCf)

It is as I said in previous threads, we have not had any department in our government since the mid 60s that uses true science.

Everything is operated under the color of government power to increase government power. We need to abolish every departmenty in the government who claim to use "science".

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 06:00 AM (e4sSD)

132

116 Baseball, basketball, football -- hell, any major sport: how many of the players are really model citizens (or even that law abiding, come to think of it)...and how much leeway do they (and other celebrities) get granted just for being celebrities?  How often are they (along with their less than law abiding exploits) in the news?  How is it covered?  Do we all continue to go along with it, even by saying nothing and packing the stadiums and arenas every week, sitting in front of the tv every week?  How many of us all give these people a break when they do something reprehensible?

Behavior, like voting, has consequences.

 

Posted by: unknown jane at December 16, 2010 06:05 AM (5/yRG)

133

Shit. I never really understood what the hell I was doing when doing molal balances in the first place. Wish I had.

Posted by: maddogg at December 16, 2010 09:57 AM (OlN4e)

That was one instance where the light went on in college and I understood something that had been a previous mystery to me; other than that I was a complete washout in chemistry which really weeds out the people who aren't completely committed to a career in scientific fields.  Yeah it's not "fair" but tough shit to everybody that bitches about it.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 16, 2010 06:06 AM (kOMUP)

134

Don't get me wrong, I like sports as much as anybody ...but it's time to admit: we've all been a little guilty of the "bread and circuses" game; by our own behaviors we've fucked ourselves over royally (and it's been everybody, not just liberals, not just Democrats, not just social cons or fiscal cons or whatever -- all of us).

Posted by: unknown jane at December 16, 2010 10:00 AM (5/yRG)

No shit. I had to pull my daughter out of a small private school here after the 7th grade because the school shut down the higher grades.

There wasn't enough parents who wanted an education as much as they wanted football and cheer-leading. It so pissed me off.

If it was up to me there would be zero sports in school other than the informal games played during recess. I would force the professional sports teams to go to the European model of private sports clubs rather than a tax subsidized farm club. 

School should be dedicated to learning, not sporting. In lieu of that, I would make all schools private and shutdown tax subsidized union schools.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 06:06 AM (e4sSD)

135 Guess who wants a dog


Incidentally, this article reports that dog fighting is up in the City of Brotherly Love since Vick joined the team. 

Posted by: Y-not at December 16, 2010 06:06 AM (IDL9N)

136 I heard a radio report that my two Senators had split on the Omnibus. No surprise there, considering that one's a D and one's an R. Turns out they flip-flopped, and Richard Burr (R) voted for and Kay Hagan (D) voted against. I'm not going to bother to go their websites and find out why.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 16, 2010 06:06 AM (MiG8u)

137 Gotta go for a while, back later

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 06:07 AM (e4sSD)

138 @127 ...No it means that the Republican Party bosses in the Senate got to him with threats. There is no love lost there. Look to McConnell for this one, not DeMint. And for the one who called DeMint a RINO, I have to ask "what color is the sky in the universe you live in"? Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 09:57 AM (e4sSD) In terms of what happened, yes. In terms of how it's being presented by the MFM, no. This is the war for the next two years. Obama is holding back radical extreme lowdown conservatives.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 16, 2010 06:17 AM (+kzvp)

139

If it was up to me there would be zero sports in school other than the informal games played during recess.

Piss off.  Kids learn from things in addition to, not apart from, books.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 16, 2010 06:18 AM (B+qrE)

140

School should be dedicated to learning, not sporting. In lieu of that, I would make all schools private and shutdown tax subsidized union schools.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 10:06 AM (e4sSD)


Get outta my head!  

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at December 16, 2010 06:19 AM (/G5LI)

141 Anybody have a list of how the senate is looking to vote on the pork bill?  Wondering how  up in 2012 for a failed reelection bid Stabbenow is voting

Posted by: Flammenwerfer at December 16, 2010 06:21 AM (FIDMq)

142 Hell even cheer leading is a money-making sport.

My friend spends thousands and thousands of dollars a year so her kid can cheer.

In fact, they spend more on her, than on her brothers baseball/softball combined.

Posted by: momma at December 16, 2010 06:21 AM (penCf)

143 And the federal government will be reimbursing 11 cents per meal max,  IF you comply with all aspects and even then not for 3 years,  although the program starts next year.

IIRC, I think he said it was a mere 6 cents per meal max...collectable after 3 years' implementation.  He stated they haven't the money to pay for this.  I'm sure he echoes the thoughts of hundreds of other school superintendents across the nation.  All these "healthy" additions to junior's lunch tray will wind up in the trash.  Salad bars are a haven for germs, and that problem is tenfold worse when thrown into a snotty nosed school system.  But hey, Barry didn't have to sleep on the couch! 

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 16, 2010 06:23 AM (x9xik)

144 Here's another 'You Don't Say':

http://tinyurl.com/36al5gu

Posted by: momma at December 16, 2010 06:24 AM (penCf)

145

Dec. 16 (Bloomberg) -- The number of U.S. workers filing first-time claims for unemployment benefits unexpectedly declined last week, pointing to a labor market that is on the mend.

Applications for jobless insurance payments decreased by 3,000 to 420,000, the lowest in three weeks, Labor Department figures showed today.

 

There was a whole 3,000 less filing for unemployment during the Christmas Shopping season. What an amazing turn around for the job market. All praise Comrade Chairman MaObama for saving the economy.

Yeah, the job market is definitely on the mend as long as you don't look at the information in the 9th paragraph

The number of people continuing to collect jobless benefits rose by 22,000 in the week ended Dec. 4 to 4.14 million. They were forecast to increase to 4.12 million, according to the Bloomberg survey.

 

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 16, 2010 06:24 AM (1Jaio)

146 My daughter is in dance.  Between the lessons and the costumes and the travel, it dies run into money.  And, truth be told, I am rather offended by a number of the dances and the general values demonstrated.  But she loves it, her friends are in it, she is doing well (has a solo in Sleeping Beauty), and my wife supports it. 

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 16, 2010 06:25 AM (xxgag)

147 Drudge's picture this morning:  trifecta of evil bastards.  I didn't know I could possess such hatred.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 16, 2010 06:25 AM (x9xik)

148 "There is no curse in Elvish, Entish, or the tongues of Men..."
Just you wait.  Man is an inventive sort.
You'll see.
Heck, just while typing this comment, I've thought of thre.

Posted by: Least at December 16, 2010 06:26 AM (02Aeu)

149 WTF:

£500 on electricity bills to pay for green energy Electricity bills will have to rise by up to £500 a year to pay for a new generation of environmentally friendly power stations, it emerged.

Posted by: momma at December 16, 2010 06:26 AM (penCf)

150 From The Guardian:

The US has stopped the momentum of the Taliban in Afghanistan and will begin withdrawing troops from the country next summer, an Obama administration review said today.

The Obama regime must be reeling from the latest reports on the war.

Posted by: Ed Anger at December 16, 2010 06:27 AM (7+pP9)

151

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 10:06 AM (e4sSD)

Best High School sport stadium in the Area, here in South Denver, is at "Valor" High School.... Private, Christian centric, High School..

Part of the way they got into the League is they allow other schools to use their sport facilities...

Win/Win...

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 16, 2010 06:27 AM (AdK6a)

152 FOR VIC in particular (and everyone else in general).
'Twas the night before Kwanzaa...

Posted by: andycanuck at December 16, 2010 06:27 AM (KHKnV)

153 German man castrates teenage daughter's 57-year-old boyfriend An enraged father who disapproved of his daughter's older boyfriend went to his home and castrated him with a bread knife.

Posted by: momma at December 16, 2010 06:28 AM (penCf)

154 There is no curse in Elvish, Entish, or the tongues of Men for this treachery.

How about "May the Pelosi be with you."

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 16, 2010 06:29 AM (xxgag)

155 Althouse has posted a pretty good "he said/she said" brouhaha that's brewing over Rep. Defazio and Obama's spokespeople contradicting each other over Obama's desperation to "save his Presidency".
They're all such fucking liars that I find it hard to believe that either one of them is telling the truth.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 16, 2010 06:30 AM (MiG8u)

156 Mitch McConnell is pushing a ONE page Continuing Resolution to fund the government at current levels through Feb 18, when the 112th Congress can pass a reasonable one for the year (with a new Republican House). Compare and contrast to the nearly 2000 page monster with a $48 billion earmark submitted by a Missouri democrat congressman for a vague steal from the rich to give to me "businessman"... Yeah Mitch!

Posted by: SnowSun at December 16, 2010 06:32 AM (UAUr6)

157 Guys, lay off on the atomic weights thing.  All it's doing is acknowledging that different isotopes of elements have differing atomic weights.  Heck, you shoulda seen it a few years back when they adjusted the values for zinc.

When they try to rename 'oxygen' to 'obamagen', page me.  Until then, we have actual legit stupidity to worry about.

And pass the iodine pills.  I've a feeling I need to stockpile.

Posted by: AoSHQ's DarkLord© at December 16, 2010 06:33 AM (GBXon)

158 Click my name...

Posted by: SnowSun at December 16, 2010 06:33 AM (UAUr6)

159 rdbrewer:

check this video out!  (New Zeal)

'On the 3rd day of ChristmasWinter my teacher taught to me
Islam is peaceful
Suzie has 2 mommies
But we can't have nativity scenes'

It goes all the way 12 days


Posted by: momma at December 16, 2010 06:34 AM (penCf)

160 Vick wants a dog and Steele wants the RNC. 

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 16, 2010 06:35 AM (xxgag)

161 Here's another great video over at New Zeal.

Involves The Bears.  Funny!

Posted by: momma at December 16, 2010 06:37 AM (penCf)

162 151 I'm seeing anger in myself and others that is deep and cherry red.  When it erupts it won't be pretty.

Posted by: SurferDoc at December 16, 2010 06:40 AM (o3bYL)

163 105 "Everyone should believe in something.  I believe I'll have another drink."

Posted by: W C Fields at December 16, 2010 09:29 AM (JpFM9)

Speaking of that, the smear campaign kicks into higher gear:

http://tinyurl.com/27sxfkj

assholes

Posted by: Museisluse at December 16, 2010 06:43 AM (DTfXb)

164

RE: Bob Feller.

Some of you geezer morons like me might remember Warren Spahn's high leg kick when he pitched. He was wounded in the foot during the Battle of the Bulge and that was how he could throw with the least amount of pain. Like Feller and others, he gave up time in the middle of his career and would have even better numbers than he did. I've met them both and they were characters, and patriots.

Posted by: bigred at December 16, 2010 06:45 AM (cX9pO)

165 170 Those were great days for Baseball.  Sal Maglie was one of my heroes.  My father played sandlot ball with Duke Snyder.

Posted by: SurferDoc at December 16, 2010 06:49 AM (o3bYL)

166 @98, That brings back the memories.

Posted by: Wade1970 at December 16, 2010 06:50 AM (MQOrx)

167

Good thing we have the government looking out for us:

Local Town Bans Sled Riding In Community Park

A Beaver County town has banned sledding in a popular park and voted to lay out a sledding course in another.

The Beaver Council voted unanimously on Tuesday to ban sledding in Wayne Park.

Councilwoman Shirley Sayers said officials are trying to make the best of a bad situation. She said pending lawsuits against the borough for sledding incidents prompted its insurer's concerns.

The council also voted in favor of restricting sled riding in Roosevelt Park to people who live in Beaver County only.

The ordinance also requires children 12 years old and younger to wear a helmet and sled riding will not be permitted after sunset. Metal and plastic disc sleds are also banned.

Posted by: Ed Anger at December 16, 2010 06:51 AM (7+pP9)

168

Metal and plastic disc sleds are also banned.

Then everyone should just stick to the traditional method of trippinng and forming an enormous house-smashing snowball while rolling downhill.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at December 16, 2010 06:53 AM (B+qrE)

169 they suck the fun out of everything..........

Posted by: phoenixgirl at December 16, 2010 06:54 AM (Cm66w)

170

Good thing we have the government looking out for us:

Local Town Bans Sled Riding In Community Park

A Beaver County town has banned sledding in a popular park and voted to lay out a sledding course in another.

The Beaver Council voted unanimously on Tuesday to ban sledding in Wayne Park.

Councilwoman Shirley Sayers said officials are trying to make the best of a bad situation. She said pending lawsuits against the borough for sledding incidents prompted its insurer's concerns.

The council also voted in favor of restricting sled riding in Roosevelt Park to people who live in Beaver County only.

The ordinance also requires children 12 years old and younger to wear a helmet and sled riding will not be permitted after sunset. Metal and plastic disc sleds are also banned.

That's just north of me. Don't blame the government they are doing the right thing and the fiscally responsible thing.

They can't afford the higher insurance rates that are a result of mommy and daddy suing when little timmy cracks his skull open while sledding.

The county is doing the right thing. If kids and their parents aren't responsible for themselves, and the county cannot afford the legal defense costs, then what other option do they have?

Posted by: Ben at December 16, 2010 06:55 AM (wuv1c)

171

Those crazy teabaggers are at it again:

Police Find “Improvised Explosives" in New Haven

New Haven police have closed a section of Hubinger Street to investigate after finding "improvised explosives" on Thursday morning and the FBI is at the scene.

Police received a call reporting smoky materials at #17 Hubinger St. at 11:15 p.m. on Wednesday and found what police are calling "improvised explosive devices."

Police have crime scene tape around the house and a pickup. The FBI is also on the scene. They are waiting for a search warrant signed by a judge to allow them to go into the house

Posted by: Ed Anger at December 16, 2010 06:56 AM (7+pP9)

172 Now they're stealing our neutrons. Bastards! Are there any elements under AW 100 that don't have known isotopes?

Posted by: eman at December 16, 2010 06:56 AM (XXyJt)

173

There was a whole 3,000 less filing for unemployment during the Christmas Shopping season. What an amazing turn around for the job market. All praise Comrade Chairman MaObama for saving the economy.

 

I wonder if that means a lot of the seasonal highering, for small businesses, was done under the table. So a decent amount of people were being paid cash, and still collected UC benefits

Posted by: Ben at December 16, 2010 06:57 AM (wuv1c)

174

That's just north of me. Don't blame the government they are doing the right thing and the fiscally responsible thing.

They can't afford the higher insurance rates that are a result of mommy and daddy suing when little timmy cracks his skull open while sledding.

Then thank the lawyers.


Posted by: Ed Anger at December 16, 2010 06:59 AM (7+pP9)

175 The ordinance also requires children 12 years old and younger to wear a helmet and sled riding will not be permitted after sunset. Metal and plastic disc sleds are also banned.

Everyday I thank God I was born in 1961.  No helmets, no nanny state, no bullshit.
If you ran into a tree on your sled and got hurt my mom would say "Won't do that again, will you?" good times.

Posted by: mpfs at December 16, 2010 07:00 AM (iYbLN)

176 165 Vick wants a dog and Steele wants the RNC

RACIST!

Posted by: Y-not at December 16, 2010 07:00 AM (IDL9N)

177 I'm back

Unknown Jane;

As you can see from the responses to my post, there are many "conservatives" who care more about their child's sports than they do their education. We can't win therefore the best solution is the abolition of ALL public schools, including colleges. Make all schools private. If you want sports in your school fine, pay for it.

FOR VIC in particular (and everyone else in general).
'Twas the night before Kwanzaa...

Posted by: andycanuck at December 16, 2010 10:27 AM (KHKnV)

LOL, love it. But I still like my religion/holiday better.

Coinzaa, I want all those fractional cents from all government checks.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 07:01 AM (e4sSD)

178 "Then everyone should just stick to the traditional method of trippinng and forming an enormous house-smashing snowball while rolling downhill." Please see: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartoon_physics

Posted by: George Orwell at December 16, 2010 07:02 AM (AZGON)

179 181 The ordinance also requires children 12 years old and younger to wear a helmet and sled riding will not be permitted after sunset. Metal and plastic disc sleds are also banned.

Everyday I thank God I was born in 1961.  No helmets, no nanny state, no bullshit.
If you ran into a tree on your sled and got hurt my mom would say "Won't do that again, will you?" good times.

Posted by: mpfs at December 16, 2010 11:00 AM (iYbLN)

Before the days of salting the streets, we rode down a double hill in NYC on sheets of ice. Wicked, wicked.

Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE at December 16, 2010 07:02 AM (LdYLm)

180

The residency hearing that's hindering Rahm EmanuelÂ’s bid for Chicago mayor continued Wednesday with the assertion that many of the prized possessions the candidate claims are kept in his Ravenswood home don't exist.

"There have never been boxes in the house that aren't mine," said Lori Halpin.

Halpin and her husband are tenants in Emanuel's home, at 4228 N. Hermitage Ave.

During EmanuelÂ’s 11-hour questioning Tuesday to defend his residency status, he testified that roughly 100 boxes and other items were in a locked storage in the basement of the home and show his intent to return.

Posted by: Ed Anger at December 16, 2010 07:02 AM (7+pP9)

181 Vick wants a dog and Steele wants the RNC
RACIST!
SPECIESIST!!!111!!

Posted by: andycanuck at December 16, 2010 07:03 AM (KHKnV)

182

"The ordinance also requires children 12 years old and younger to wear a helmet..."

I only went sledding for the head injuries and red snow.  Are they gonna ban pissing in your snowsuit next? 

Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at December 16, 2010 07:03 AM (HaYO4)

183

That's just north of me. Don't blame the government they are doing the right thing and the fiscally responsible thing.

They can't afford the higher insurance rates that are a result of mommy and daddy suing when little timmy cracks his skull open while sledding.

Then thank the lawyers.


The Lawyers and the parents.

What happened to personal responsibility? If you kid chokes and dies on a toy you sue the toy maker. And the parents bear no responsibility for watching their child?  A kid can get killed with literally anything. I remember hearing a statistic that said at least 30 people die a year drowning in a bucket. Like the kind of bucket you use to mop your floors. Does that mean the bucket company should be sued?

Sledding can be very dangerous, especially if there are trees around, and this being PA we are covered in trees, so parents need to take extra procautions when letting their kids sled.

It doesn't help that when there are a bunch of slip and fall attorneys who hover around accidents like this like Hyennas waiting for a meal. They know the state our county has limited means in the way of legal defense funds and almost always settles.

Posted by: Ben at December 16, 2010 07:03 AM (wuv1c)

184 2 - Thus strength is weakness.

Posted by: fb at December 16, 2010 07:03 AM (G60Nl)

185 how about a sled at your own risk sign? 

Posted by: phoenixgirl at December 16, 2010 07:04 AM (Cm66w)

186

Before the days of salting the streets, we rode down a double hill in NYC on sheets of ice. Wicked, wicked.

Posted by: Radioactive Satellite Of LOVE

Oh yeah, the metal saucers were the best on icy hills.  Get a good push and ZOOM!!!!  Or the big inner tubes from truck tires.  We were nuts.

Posted by: mpfs at December 16, 2010 07:04 AM (iYbLN)

187

Some companies are still cutting jobs. Yahoo Inc. said Tuesday that it is laying off 600 employees, or 4 percent of its work force.

 

It couldn't happen to a nicer bunch. They're all of bunch of Barry lovers and their news is nothing but left wing propaganda.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 16, 2010 07:04 AM (1Jaio)

188 194 The ordinance also requires children 12 years old and younger to wear a helmet

Why stop at helmets?  What about mouthguards?  No respect for teeth?  Put the little dervishes into full body armor.  Make a law requiring they be on leashes.  Can't be too safe now ...
Posted by: iknowtheleft

Solution:  Nerf Snow.

Posted by: mpfs at December 16, 2010 07:06 AM (iYbLN)

189 momma, a lot of people in their early 60s are doing the math on that. A friend of mine was coming to the end of UC right about now. He turns 64 in Jan. and figured he could survive a couple weeks to his birthday, then head down to the SS office and turn himself in. Luckily he got a job last month. Guys are figuring that losing a couple hundred dollars a month is worth the just walking away.

Posted by: bigred at December 16, 2010 07:06 AM (cX9pO)

190

I'm going to try to make soap today.

I'm not a crafty person.

Must get over my attitude and try to have fun with the kids...

Posted by: Mama AJ, Recovering Grinch at December 16, 2010 07:06 AM (XdlcF)

191 Embrace our minority isotopes! Diversity for all!

Posted by: American Chemical Liberties Union at December 16, 2010 07:07 AM (GwPRU)

192

how about a sled at your own risk sign? 

Signs don't constitute waivers of responsibility I don't believe.

Also, please people, read the whole sledding article.  Butler County is one of the most conservative counties in Pennsylvania, it is just north of Allegheny county(which is Pittsburgh). Believe me that they don't want to do this.

It's the parents, lawyers and insurers that are forcing them to do so.

People need to accept some responsibility in continuing creeping nanny state. If we sure the state for everything, they will ban it for fiscal reasons, not out of some sense of moral superiority.

Posted by: Ben at December 16, 2010 07:08 AM (wuv1c)

193

RE: Bob Feller.

Some of you geezer morons like me might remember Warren Spahn's high leg kick when he pitched. He was wounded in the foot during the Battle of the Bulge and that was how he could throw with the least amount of pain. Like Feller and others, he gave up time in the middle of his career and would have even better numbers than he did. I've met them both and they were characters, and patriots.

Posted by: bigred at December 16, 2010 10:45 AM (cX9pO)

Rapid Robert's unwillingness to regret serving his country because of how it impacted his career stats stands in such marked contrast to cocksucking pricks like Bonds and Clemens.   Feller was also loyal to the Indians throughout his retirement; going on the road to make appearances in minor league cities on their behalf.  He may have been the greatest pitcher ever; if not he was easily in the discussion of any top 5 players.  RIP.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 16, 2010 07:08 AM (kOMUP)

194 sure not sure.

Posted by: Ben at December 16, 2010 07:09 AM (wuv1c)

195

fuck

SUE not sure

Posted by: Ben at December 16, 2010 07:09 AM (wuv1c)

196 Eye of Newt on Fox right now talking about the 95 shutdown and even he will not blame Clinton.

The redheaded liberal babe: "what about the danger to the American people from a government shutdown"?

Bullshit answer from Newt "What about the message to the Senate and the President to get a clean bill?"

I would have laughed in her face. What danger. It would be a plus. Besides that we have an already approved CR. Your question is BS.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 07:10 AM (e4sSD)

197 Hey NYers:

Have you ever heard of NewYork Bowhunters group?  They have a program called Camo to Camo.  They seem to do a lot for our service men and women by giving free hunts to our wounded heroes, care packages to heroes on the front lines, and even send over bows/targets so they can unwind after all the hell they lived.

I visited their website, but there isn't a link on how to help.

I found info on them in my Outdoor Life magazine.  Ed Gorch, one of the members, is a Outdoor Life 25.

Posted by: momma at December 16, 2010 07:10 AM (penCf)

198 Anyone want to bet against Rahm Emmanuel somehow getting his way?

Posted by: SurferDoc at December 16, 2010 07:11 AM (o3bYL)

199

It looks like DADT will pass. Scott Brown switched to yes.

I don't blame him or hold it against him, he's from Massachusetts and needs to vote for it to have a shot at winning re-election.

 

Posted by: Ben at December 16, 2010 07:11 AM (wuv1c)

200

Anyone want to bet against Rahm Emmanuel somehow getting his way?

I find it hilarious that he filed his 2009 taxes as a resident of DC, but then in the past 3-4 weeks amended his 2009 taxes to say he is a part time resident of chicago.

Posted by: Ben at December 16, 2010 07:12 AM (wuv1c)

201

mama

kids love crafts....make the graham cracker gingerbread house....get store bought white icing as the glue to form the house and for snow, lots of candies and teddy grahams as the "people"

Posted by: phoenixgirl at December 16, 2010 07:12 AM (Cm66w)

202

I'm going to try to make soap today.

Wood ash and tallow? It's the only way.

Posted by: Ed Anger at December 16, 2010 07:13 AM (7+pP9)

203 We never went sledding without a spray can of PAM in our pocket.

My brilliant mom also used to wrap our legs and arms and bellies in shirts, papertowels, tp, whatever, to 'cushion' our falls.

There were 5 of us, and we never had a mark on us after sledding.  It was awesome.

Posted by: momma at December 16, 2010 07:14 AM (penCf)

204 I get blamed for everything. First it's that phony global warming, then it's how old everything is, now it's people whining about my weight. Fuck you all. I'm stealing four protons and then have I'll nothing to do with anyone.

Posted by: Carbon-14 at December 16, 2010 07:14 AM (AZGON)

205 ABC news reports Sen. Brown (?-MA) will put DADT repeal over the top.

Personally I greet this with a pronounced 'meh', as most of the vets I know pretty well knew who was what regardless and thought the whole thing was a mite silly, but I know there's some other perspectives on it out there, so take it as you will.

Posted by: AoSHQ's DarkLord© at December 16, 2010 07:15 AM (GBXon)

206 If we sure the state for everything, they will ban it for fiscal reasons, not out of some sense of moral superiority. Posted by: Ben at December 16, 2010 11:08 AM

Doesn't matter. A ban is a ban, no matter what reasons people come up with.

What's needed is to ban stupid lawsuits brought by stupid parents who can't be bothered to teach their rugrats (or themselves) how to deal with life.

We're raising generations of kids who won't be able to cope with life. I guess it doesn't matter. They'll sit in their rooms and play computer games, anyway. The perils of walking, playing outdoors and eating unsafe food items won't touch them, and the first exposure to germs or other natural "enemies" will kill them.

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 16, 2010 07:16 AM (Ulu3i)

207 I can not believe what I just saw on Fox News.

They did an advertisement/message for Christmas wishes actually quoting the bible. Wait for the outrage from the libtards.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 07:16 AM (e4sSD)

208
Rapid Robert's unwillingness to regret serving his country because of how it impacted his career stats stands in such marked contrast to cocksucking pricks like Bonds and Clemens.

tey shood done likeme 7na=. i waz smert.']=#

Posted by: Cassius Clay at December 16, 2010 07:18 AM (7+pP9)

209 "If they are to die, let them do so and reduce the surplus population"

Posted by: SurferDoc at December 16, 2010 07:18 AM (o3bYL)

210 "Nerf kids!" They must not be non-biodegradable plastic. We suggest your kids be made of water soluble corn starch foam.

Posted by: George Orwell at December 16, 2010 07:18 AM (AZGON)

211 When I was a kid those snowsuits were heavy.  Once you got soaked it was like carrying a dead body on your back.  We still had a blast though.

Posted by: mpfs at December 16, 2010 07:19 AM (iYbLN)

212

With a kitten in the house, I was going to skip the gingerbread house this year, but I guess we could keep it in the fridge and claim polar bears or Eskimos live in it...

 

I'm not even making the soap--I lye-d. Just warming up shea butter soap and adding color and fragrance.

My boys will get bored with any of it quickly but the Grrll and I should have fun...

Posted by: Mama AJ, really wimpy about this stuff at December 16, 2010 07:20 AM (XdlcF)

213 Can you imagine If Curtis Got Slapped got hurt in a sledding accident?  The mother would go beyond batshit crazy.

Posted by: mpfs at December 16, 2010 07:21 AM (iYbLN)

214 Grew up in a small town in the 50s. There was one street on a hill with only a couple houses on it. The town posted the street with a couple kids sledding signs and let us have the street. Everybody in town knew we sledded there. On days off from school, there would be a couple dozen kids sledding there, without parental supervision.

Posted by: bigred at December 16, 2010 07:22 AM (cX9pO)

215 You got to run the water through the ashes til it'll melt a chicken feather. And use oak ashes, pine ashes are no good.

Posted by: Granny Clampett at December 16, 2010 07:24 AM (7+pP9)

216 inowtheleft,  we had to remove our high dive board from our subdivision pool several years ago.  Insurance company felt that the diving well wasn't deep enough for it.

That board had been there for over 20 years with no injuries.  Still,  it was removed.

When I was on the board we investigated putting a slide up in its place.  They wouldn't cover a slide,  either.  And we have to pay extra for the low diving boards we do have.

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 16, 2010 07:25 AM (Fo83G)

217

You got to run the water through the ashes til it'll melt a chicken feather. And use oak ashes, pine ashes are no good.

I'm going to need $165,000 to study maple ashes.

Posted by: Mama AJ at December 16, 2010 07:27 AM (XdlcF)

218 Just watched commie Dick Durbin blasting Republicans as hypocrites and supporting this bloated trillion dollar bill.

It made me wish longingly for Preston Brooks.

For those not familiar with Preston Brooks

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 07:30 AM (e4sSD)

219

inowtheleft,  we had to remove our high dive board from our subdivision pool several years ago.  Insurance company felt that the diving well wasn't deep enough for it.

That board had been there for over 20 years with no injuries.  Still,  it was removed.

When I was on the board we investigated putting a slide up in its place.  They wouldn't cover a slide,  either.  And we have to pay extra for the low diving boards we do have.

I belonged to a pool in the early 1990s when i was a kid. They had a high dive, like 15 feet or more, i can't remember the exact height. Anyway, kids would slip off it and get hurt, so they put a material on the board that made it feel like you were walking on sand paper, to prevent slipping. I think some kid got badly hurt again, so they just got rid of it altogether. I don't know if it had anything to do with lawyers, or they just assumed kids couldn't handle the responsiblity

Posted by: Ben at December 16, 2010 07:32 AM (wuv1c)

220

If we sure the state for everything, they will ban it for fiscal reasons, not out of some sense of moral superiority. Posted by: Ben at December 16, 2010 11:08 AM

Doesn't matter. A ban is a ban, no matter what reasons people come up with.

you're kidding right? You can't tell the difference between Michael Bloomberg banning soda because he is a cock suck who knows whats good for all of us, and a small country banning sledding because the lawsuits would bankrupt it?

Posted by: Ben at December 16, 2010 07:34 AM (wuv1c)

221 When I was on the board we investigated putting a slide up in its place.  They wouldn't cover a slide,  either.  And we have to pay extra for the low diving boards we do have.

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 16, 2010 11:25 AM (Fo83G)

I am surprised that they even allowed you to have a pool at all. It isn't just diving boards that are disappearing. Entire community pools are as well. 

When I had my backyard pool built I went to the insurance company and told them and asked how much my rates were going up. I was told none at all. The agent told me that I was covered for one pool accident and one dog bite, after which neither would be covered in the future.

That is if they didn't cancel.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 07:35 AM (e4sSD)

222 The global warming is still falling from the sky here in central Indiana.

I am out of tape for present wrapping,  and need to get to the grocery.  I am out of dog chews,  and my English shepherd is not happy.

Sigh.  Guess I will go warm up the car.

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 16, 2010 07:36 AM (Fo83G)

223 You can't tell the difference between Michael Bloomberg banning soda because he is a cock suck who knows whats good for all of us, and a small country banning sledding because the lawsuits would bankrupt it? Posted by: Ben at December 16, 2010 11:34 AM

Maybe you can, Ben, but a ban is a ban, no matter how "noble" or practical the reasons.

Why didn't they just ban snow?

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 16, 2010 07:38 AM (Ulu3i)

224 Grew up in a small town in the 50s.......

One wonders what the ration of lawyers to real workers was in the State and Federal Legislatures in the 50s.

On blaming the judges and the juries for this crap I disagree. It is the entire tort system. It is, and has been, completely broken. It no longer functions at all.

I blame the State and Federal legislatures made up of lawyers who make it exceedingly easy to sue for virtually anything. Laws that allow them to venue shop and to pack the juries with people who believe in "social justice" and "jackpot judgments".

In fact the system is so broke that if I was a "dictator for a day" I would permanently ban ALL tort law. Torts would be settled by the claiment (not a lawyer), telling jury of working peers picked randomly as possible, their side of the story. Then the defendant (also not a lawyer) explaining their side of the story.  The jury would assign who was wrong. The most that could be paid out would be restitution.

Most especially there would be no:

1. Partial liability that forced a deep pocket to pay 100% when any actual problem was merely incidental.
2. Pain and suffering
3. Punitive damages (which I think are unconstitutional)
4. Absolutely NO government initiated tort at all.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 07:51 AM (e4sSD)

225

And fencing makes no difference at all, in many states.  Attractive nuisance.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at December 16, 2010 11:40 AM (G/MYk)

Not completely true, although some States/Counties do not require a fence. (Mine didn't and still doesn't).

I talked to a lawyer about that. His response was that a fence is a big help, particularly like one I built that was 6 foot high.

He said that in defending against a civil suit if someone who trespassed into your pool and was injured had to climb over a fence to access it juries were in favor of the homeowner. If someone is old enough and big enough to climb a fence then they are old enough and big enough to know better. 

Now that may not hold up in some blue States like CA.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 07:56 AM (e4sSD)

226 As I said, in some States the laws are so bad that there is no protection for anything. The answer in those cases is to move out of the State.

I left CA in 1977 before it got really bad.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2010 08:17 AM (e4sSD)

227 Thanks, momma.  That's good.  Imagine it sung by Bob and Doug Mackenzie.

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228 Michael Vick should volunteer at animal shelters, so that he can see firsthand what abuse and neglect looks like. Then he can rehabilitate with animals who would appreciate some love and humane treatment. He should not be allowed to own another dog as a social experiment or PR move.

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Every wife thinks that.

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