1 cave to the homosexual agenda.

2 George Lucas takes redux to a zombie level. Evidently, currently living actors just aren't popular enough to bring out the audience to movie releases. So he'll resort to digitally regenerating some dead iconic actors in coming flicks.

3 let them get my damned dirty hands on my bacon!

4

Another commie election steal in MN

Source: Emmer to Concede in Minn. Gov. Race

Emmer trailed Dayton by nearly 9,000 votes heading into a recount that has changed little. A Democratic official close to Dayton said the senator hadn't received a call from Emmer. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he wasn't authorized to comment publicly on the matter.

In the Supreme Court's decision, justices said local officials were within their power to use more than one method for pairing the number of votes and voters. In some places, officials count slips of paper known as voter receipts rather than count signatures in polling place rosters. The goal is to make sure vote tallies in precincts match the number of voters.

Local officials can count all kinds of different ways to make sure a Democrat wins. I just can not believe that the courts openly rule crap like this. Perhaps they believe the people in MN are not paying any attention to this kind of shit.

Hey you assholes on the MN Supreme Court reading AOS. This is how revolutions in the banana republics got started. The influential citizens saw that the rule of law had become subverted and decided to eliminate the “subverters”.

5

From the Hill, this will piss you off

FCC push to regulate news draws fire

Rep. Joe Barton (R-Texas) pushed back on Monday against a contention by a Democratic FCC commissioner that the government should create new regulations to promote diversity in news programming.

Barton was reacting to a proposal made last week by FCC Commissioner Michael Copps, who in a speech suggested that broadcasters be subject to a new "public values test" every four years.

The SOB wants the FCC to “regulate news content”. Now I am not happy with ANY of the network news programs, including Fox, but this is not the damn answer. The damn Democrat/commies already have every news agency in their back pocket so why in the hell is this Democrat asking for more government control of the news?

LetÂ’s not forget why the FCC was established to begin with. It was used to shutdown a radical who dissented with FDR.

This is another agency screaming to be zeroed out in 2011. Transfer frequency allotment to the Dept of interior, revoke all other regulations, and fire everybody.

BTW, for those who want to know more about the FCC, why it was really created, and how it was initially used; Bing up Father Charles Coughlin.

True he was an initial supporter of FDR and his new deal (go figure) but he became disillusioned when FDR didn't move fast enough in converting the USA to communism.

FDR shut him down by creating the FCC and the "fairness doctrine". If you think the Supreme Court will protect us, think again.

6

Hey you assholes on the MN Supreme Court reading AOS. This is how revolutions in the banana republics got started. The influential citizens saw that the rule of law had become subverted and decided to eliminate the “subverters”.

Posted by: Vic at December 08, 2010 06:59 AM (e4sSD)

Are we there yet?

7

i ask a question
what time is it where you live?
for me it is four.

AoSHQ
a talking clock it is not
unless you are drunk.

8 "I'll die before I'll—"

succumb to decadence.

9 "I'll die before I'll—" shoot an elk.

10

DREAM ACT to be voted on today.

11 I'll die before I eat creamed corn.  I'm pretty sure a creamed corn factory is just a small room in China with no windows where they feed children corn and sour milk and have them vomit into aluminum cans. That's what it tastes like anyways.

12 Even more piss you off from the WSJ

Fannie, Freddie Pressed on Mortgages

I have a better headline

Obama Bails Out Deadbeats with Tax Payer Money Again

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are in talks with Obama administration officials to join fledgling government programs aimed at reducing loan balances of mortgages where borrowers owe more than their homes are worth, according to people familiar with the situation.

An agreement with the two government-owned mortgage giants to write down so-called underwater loans could reduce the threat to the U.S. housing market from the glut of homeowners believed at risk of default should their personal finances or home prices worsen. A deal would deepen losses at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, which already have cost taxpayers about $134 billion.

Do we here any more PAYGO? Do we here a call for something that fixes the problem?  The fact is, we have already spent enough to pay off every damn mortgage in country. Most of it got frittered to welfare and union programs now we are going back and sneaking in another round of payoff. 

13 "I'll die before I'll—"

come up with an original (and good) idea.

14 Problem with Lucas resuscitating dead actors in order to sell a new flick is in the inherent Hollywood REVISIONISM of character and plot. AND in refusing new actors the opportunity to truly act larger than life portrayals.  AND in the obvious erasure of the original from the newer generation audience that should appreciate the authentic presentations before being corrupted with prostitution as the guiding rule for "meaning".

Taken to the extreme epic iconoclastic level, there's the morale of the story regarding the 2nd coming of Christ fooling everyone to worship Satan the deceiver given miraculous bags of new tricks. Cheap imitation once the Hero actually arrives on the scene.

"Trust the force, Luke."

Time for new creative geniuses, not just the Tarantino stylism, who aren't all spent out like Lucas, Spielberg, and the likes. Perfection via simplicity is the most difficult ideal to attain.

 

15 I'll die before I eat creamed corn.

I love cream corn.

16 Ed we may not have to worry about the Dream Act. It looks like the Tax Deal is falling apart and they may get hung up on that.

There is not a lot of support for the Dream Act anyway.

17 Problem with Lucas resuscitating dead actors in order to sell a new flick is in the inherent Hollywood REVISIONISM of character and plot

That's not the problem. Hell 9 out of 10 of all the new movies are sequels or repops of old movies. NOW they want to do repops of the actors as well?

Soon the movie industry will be just as shitty as the damn TV industry.

18 "I'll die before I'll—"

live forever

19 I'll die before I eat creamed corn.  I'm pretty sure a creamed corn factory is just a small room in China with no windows where they feed children corn and sour milk and have them vomit into aluminum cans. That's what it tastes like anyways.

Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at December 08, 2010 07:17 AM (HaYO4)

Thank goodness I already ate breakfast!

20 I'll die before I eat creamed corn. -- Joanie (oven gloves)

Amen to that. I never could tolerate eating over-processed corn starch and corn syrup and corn fiber, being told that it's "corn". If you're not an infant or the elderly without teeth, the texture alone disgusts. Creamed corn makes corn pudding which once you know the recipe, again loses whatever appeal that "corn" would draw.

Freshly harvested corn on the cob, or flash frozen corn still has kernel bursts of texture and flavor worth serving and eating.

I wonder why public schools ever persist in feeding anyone "Frito Pie" when corn chip tortillas TASTE so much better, lacking "bad" lard and high levels of salt, and cost less. /Frito-Lays federal insider lobby.

21 Hell 9 out of 10 of all the new movies are sequels or repops of old movies. NOW they want to do repops of the actors as well?

That's what I went on to say. Glad you agree.

22

Good morning, afternoon, evening, next day, day before.

Warren Buffet-- turns out he's an ultimate "taker".   He's one of the richest people on the planet and he gets richer while the family gets poorer.  No wonder he's a democrat.

Warren Buffet is a walking talking one-man redistribution factory.  Again, no wonder he's a democrat. 

23

 

Watch that Dream Act - also - Harry Reid's huge tax payer funded Union give-away.  It has a nice sounding name too. 

Democrat's like to say thanks to the corruption that supports them, with other people's money.

 

 

24 Looks like last night's globull warming bottomed out at 12.1°F. Its finally warming up now.

25 17 Problem with Lucas resuscitating dead actors in order to sell a new flick is in the inherent Hollywood REVISIONISM of character and plot

It is also a cheapskate way to "hire" great actors/actresses of old.  Unless they pay the estates out of moral obligation, which they will probably won't.

Given Lucas' affinity for "special effects" (I put that term in quotation marks because there's nothing special about them any more - their presence is ubiquitous), how long before we see an entire movie from him full of nothing but "special effects" and these long-passed actors? 

26

 

Claire McCatkill - "Your money is mine mine MINE!"

When can we throw her out? 

27 Lemon Kitten, glad to see that getting published...

Warren Buffet the Robber Baron

28 We hit 7 degrees this morning before sunrise.   The dog wasn't bothered...ran around in the snow like an Arctic wolf.   She can't understand why I am NOT interested in a walk.

We usually don't hit these temperatures until January.   And that big storm is due in on Sunday.   Looks like a grocery stock-up run is in order.

29 I love Fritos.

Once or twice a year.

30 I didnÂ’t know if it was true, and I didnÂ’t care. Its just gossip, IÂ’m just reporting on the gossip. Well, that certainly sounds defensible.

31 The "If You See Something, Say Something" campaign—originally implemented by New York City's Metropolitan Transportation Authority and funded, in part, by $13 million from DHS' Transit Security Grant Program—is a simple and effective program to engage the public and key frontline employees to identify and report indicators of terrorism, crime and other threats to the proper transportation and law enforcement authorities.

$13 million tax funded grant money?! What, to pay "rewards" for actually performing the traditional job description in mass transit "key frontline employees" to report  INDICATORS of terrorism that they witness to the police. 

"Indicators" of terrorism, crime and other threats. 

Is this "something" inside/out campaign meant to legally protect witnesses from prosecution for having reported acts of terrorism? As if one needs protection from prosecution for reporting a crime.  And were that the case, as if Nincompoop's video is going to protect those who report acts of terrorism from being prosecuted by the current obligatory "social justice" reverse discrimination Judicial Dept. from being incarcerated on charges of "hate speech" and bigotry.

32 @26

She's up in 2012

33 Looks like a grocery stock-up run is in order.

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 08, 2010 07:50 AM (Fo83G)

In SC at the first hint of a light dusting of snow by the weather bureau half the shelves in every store in SC would be emptied in half an hour. 

Folks should keep that in mind for when the big collapse comes.

34 his is how revolutions in the banana republics got started

Uh, which former banana republics are now anything more?

35 Is this "something" inside/out campaign meant to legally protect witnesses from prosecution for having reported acts of terrorism?

Keep in mind that all money paid to a city is "fungible". This represents millions going to the NYTA. They can take money already in their budget for "security" and divert it to other activities. The city of NY can take money that they were going to send to the NYTA and spend it on even more socialist projects.

This, and the other so-called security projects for large urban areas, or any MTA type authority, or just more bailouts and payoffs for socialism.

ALL of these payouts to urban areas in every form need to cease. Another zero budget item for the 2011 House.

36 Uh, which former banana republics are now anything more?

Since the banana farms have all been nationalized and gone out of business they can't be banana republics anymore.

37 "19 I'll die before I eat creamed corn. I'm pretty sure a creamed corn factory is just a small room in China with no windows where they feed children corn and sour milk and have them vomit into aluminum cans. That's what it tastes like anyways. Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at December 08, 2010 07:17 AM (HaYO4)" And you don't even want to think about how they make hominy.

38 Michelle Bachmann tees off on Obama. Calls him a liar. Now here maybe is a "northerner" I could support for the 2012 ticket.

http://tinyurl.com/39a3972

39 even mccain has said on local radio here in phx that he will not vote for the dream act....in fact...he committed himself not to even think about immigration reform until border state sheriffs have said that everything has been done to protect their border and their border is safe and secure...

40 I'm pretty sure a creamed corn factory is just a small room in China with no windows where they feed children corn and sour milk and have them vomit into aluminum cans.

I used to love cream corn.

-------------------

I love Fritos.

My wife went out of town recently and I made myself Frito Pie (chili, cheese & Fritos for the uninitiated).  It tasted great, but I had to take an Imodium® later.

41 "I'll die before I'll—" say something nice about John Edwards

42 The stupid is epic in the AGW crowd in the U.N. Not because they are pushing AGW. Hell, they do that for their communist agenda. It is epic because they expect the public to believe shit like this:

U.N. Insists Illegal Immigration Caused by Global Warming

43 My wife went out of town recently and I made myself Frito Pie (chili, cheese & Fritos for the uninitiated).  It tasted great, but I had to take an Imodium® later.

My wife likes Fritos on hotdogs. No mustard, catsup, or other, just Fritos.

44 I think Bradley Manning should be executed by the military for what he's done, but this business of holding Julian Assange without bail for not wearing a condom is preposterous.

Are there no men left in the world who will deal with these kinds of douchebags the old-fashioned way, and by old-fashioned way I mean a shot in the head by an assassin?

45

...vote for Rahm Emmanuel.

46 ALL of these payouts to urban areas in every form need to cease. Another zero budget item for the 2011 House.

Exactly. It isn't as if the American public is actually fooled by the tax funded shell games that always amount to fraud. The Tea Party movement though in infancy is mounting a constitutional defense against authoritarianism the currently permeates practical ownership of the US Government.

But Nincompoop intends to use WalMart to prove that the American public really is that stoopid. Employees, perhaps so. But shoppers at WalMart during recessions aren't all the stereotyped dopes being ridiculed for buying into dumb and dumber.

The networking efficiency (whether or not being utilized by minimum wage employees) that WalMart already has built into their computerized business linking all of its business communications into a mastery headquarters instantly is the envy of DHS. That is what most likely is being tested in this "something suspicious" campaign.

47 One time we accidentally tore a new bag of Fritos so we put them in a paper sack...which was soaked up solid with grease the next morning. 

That was enough for me.

48 Michele Bachmann has my absolute support.

49 Thinking things over

Not taking that bait.

50

"And you don't even want to think about how they make hominy."

I don't wanna know how they make anything.  I can't watch that show "Unwrapped".  I do like grits, though.  I think I first got my mom to make them after watching the tv show Alice.

51 One time we accidentally tore a new bag of Fritos so we put them in a paper sack...which was soaked up solid with grease the next morning. 

Hence the Imodium®.

52 Looks like last night's globull warming bottomed out at 12.1°F. Its finally warming up now.


It's a whopping nine degrees where I am in Iowa.  Al Gore lied to us!!

53 I do like grits, though.

You should try Low Country Grits and Shrimp

Here is a recipe. I don't know if it is any good or not because I have always got mine at a restaurant, usually in Charleston. This is just as an example, you can always look and try others.

http://tinyurl.com/yecgfpq

54 It's a whopping nine degrees where I am in Iowa.

'Supposed to get cold in Iowa, but not in SC.

55 Ted Turner says we should adopt China's one-child policy to save the planet, apparently because our irresponsible family decisions are straining the Earth's resources.

And Turner himself?  He has three ex-wives and five kids.

56 What the hell happened to the top of Charlie Rangle's head?

He's on Fox and Friends right now and I STG he looks like he was poorly cropped in Adobe Photo Shop or something.

Check it out!

57 Deety, did you get the low down on the FCC?

58 charlie rangle on "fox and friends" -- I swear I just heard him refer to "vice president Biding"... he's worried about the deficit in two years (when he won't be in the same position to buy votes, I guess.)

59

CrossTarget Poll on ObamaCare:

 

Established under the new health care law is the Independent Payment Advisory board. It allows fifteen unelected government officials to decide what medicines will be covered under Medicare. Critics say this board will lead to government rationing of health care for seniors. Proponents say this board is vital to controlling national health care cost. Do you support or oppose this provision of the national health care law?

1. Support 25.1%
2. Oppose 64%
3. Undecided 10.9%

Nancy Pelosi infamously said that we would have to pass ObamaCare to find out whatÂ’s in it.  The Democrats passed it, and the American people are finding out whatÂ’s in it.  And they donÂ’t like it at all.

For a president whose economic policies are already proven failures, who just lost the midterms, and who just lost a high-stakes tax cut debate, poll numbers like these in the CrossTarget survey are devastating.

60

"You should try Low Country Grits and Shrimp"

Thanks for the link, Vic. I don't like any kind of seafood, but I'll check out the other recipes.  I haven't had grits in years and the crap they serve in most restaurants is pretty disgusting.

61 Yada yada Fritos.  Sure, we all "liked" them once upon a time, before the alternative "restaurant style" tortilla chips were offered on grocery shelves. Frito greasy, salty hard crunch provides a "traditional" side to a good hotdog, even those only appealing occasionally to the palate.

But my comment regards Frito Pie specifically contrasted against restaurant style tortilla chips by taste, nutrition, price, and lobby power getting on public school lunch menu.

My motivating factor is that if you have any obligatory dietary restrictions due to corn allergy or "refined" ingredients or lard, your body rejection of Fritos will feel much worse than from corn tortillas.

Aesthetically, make some fantastic guacamole and refried beans and maybe even fajitas for a gathering. Offer a side bowl of Fritos and a bowl of good corn tortilla chips. Though a few Fritos might initially grab a tastebud, most people can't eat as many Fritos as they can tortilla chips without feeling grotesque afterward. And so far as friends at a gathering choose, the Fritos bowl will remain full while the tortillas keep disappearing.

62 This link is for Vic and the rest of you Civil War buffs:
Civil War Faces: Rare ambrotypes and tintypes from the Library of Congress. Soldiers and their families.

63 The Russkies again making their presence known.

Russian navy jets disrupted US-Japanese military exercise

...The incursion was deemed so serious that the exercise was temporarily halted and F-15 fighter jets scrambled to intercept the Russian planes.

Although it is not unusual for foreign planes to try to spy on other countries' war games, Japanese media interpreted the move as Russia's latest warning shot in a festering territorial dispute between Moscow and Tokyo.

64 Posted by: Lemon Kitten at December 08, 2010 08:40 AM (0fzsA)

We all know what will happen under those kinds of panels. $15,000/month drugs for aids will be fully covered. $40/month hypertension generic drugs will not.

65 Make all the jokes you want about brain-dead politicians but that was fucking creepy.

It's just weird watching someone talk on TV who appears to be missing about 1/6 of their cranium.

Puts The Walking Dead make-up artists to shame, that.

66 Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 08, 2010 08:41 AM (4ucxv)

Thanks Heather, that first larger picture is actually quite famous. It is in a great many of the books about the war.

67

I'll die before I'll...

...wear my winter coat before the first major snowfall.  NO.  I don't care how damn cold it is, I WILL NOT DO IT.

68 And Turner himself?  He has three ex-wives and five kids.

I'm guessing none of them live in a 500 sq ft cold-water walkup, either.

69 Although it is not unusual for foreign planes to try to spy on other countries' war games, Japanese media interpreted the move as Russia's latest warning shot in a festering territorial dispute between Moscow and Tokyo.

What "exercise" would be complete without the impromptu factor of actually meeting the enemy?

No PC bullshit preventing Japan from recognizing things for what they are.

70 Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 08, 2010 08:42 AM (9hSKh)

That article is misleading, probably because the reporter is not familiar with this kind of shit.

The incursion was deemed so serious that the exercise was temporarily halted and F-15 fighter jets scrambled to intercept the Russian planes.

Anytime the Russians overfly our stuff, and they do that a lot, they are always followed by our own aircraft who watch their actions. If they open bombay doors or make any threatening moves they will be splashed.

They used to overfly us on every trip to and from WESPAC. All except one time we decided they were not going to find us, and they didn't.

71 Deety, did you get the low down on the FCC?

Not yet Vic, but thanks for the tip on Fr. Coughlin.  Gives me a point to start from when I research this more at my leisure.

72 63 Great link.  Thanks, Radish!

73 Rereading that I guess I wasn't clear. We would have followed them in from 200 miles out. We would not have "scrambled" after they got there and started circling.

74

"...wear my winter coat before the first major snowfall.  NO.  I don't care how damn cold it is, I WILL NOT DO IT."

You sound like my roommate, 'cept she doesn't even own a coat. The most She'll wear a scarf & mittens to shovel snow, but no jacket. Then her boyfriend complains to me about how many layers of clothing she wears.  Nothing I can do about it, bud.

75 Bow to any foreign despot.

76 Yet another sobering reminder that us humans aren't a threat to the Earth ; it is the Earth that is a threat to us!

Uganda scrambling to identify new deadly disease
Uganda is working "around the clock" with international health experts to identify an unprecedented illness that has killed 38 people in the north of the country, an official told AFP on Wednesday.

The unknown illness was first detected on November 10 in several districts in the central part of northern Uganda, according to a statement from the health ministry.

77 Yeah, let's give US teachers more money because they're doing such a bang-up job:

The results are in for the 2009 Program for International Students Assessment test of 15 year old students from 65 different countries.

The assessment included math, science, and reading tests. So how did the the United States of America do in the results tally? Not well at all. Here is a look at our placement in the tests and a few countries that embarrassingly scored better:

Reading – 17th: Shanghai and Hong Kong, china, Belgium, Estonia, Iceland

Science – 23rd(One Point Above Average): Shanghai, Hong Kong, and Macao, China, Estonia, Liechtenstein, Slovenia, Hungary

Math – 31st (Below Average): Shanghai, Hong Kong, and Macao, China, Taiwan, Liechtenstein, Estonia, Iceland, Denmark, Slovenia, Slovakia, Czech Republic, Luxembourg,

More info at:

http://tinyurl.com/23gfjlv

78 Gives me a point to start from when I research this more at my leisure.

Posted by: Deety appreciates a fine Demagogue at December 08, 2010 08:50 AM (Jb3+B)

Short answer is they had a law and an agency already in place to regulate and assign the frequency spectrum for radio broadcast. The FCC was created to regulate the airwaves for "fairness doctrine" which was used to shutdown Coughlin's radio station and then hound him off the air.

The Supremes allowed it as well.

79

Long time Aussie reader of Ace etc, and I used to post on LGF in the good old days,,,but what are Fritos - corn chips????

BTW it's a lovely warm night here in Sydney - almost 1am Thursday morning...

 

80 Vic - people always assume a ship, much less a battle group is easy to find. They are so wrong.

81 yes gabs...corn chips...the best!

82

82 - phoenixgirl

 

Thanks - I might just try putting some in a hot dog as suggested ^^^^

83 I haven't gotten to check out Japanese media much lately, but I wonder how the talk about moving the Futenma air station to a more remote location in Okinawa has been affected by the recent hostilities in Korea, the ever-present tension with China, and now this incident with the Russian military.  Personally I'd prefer to have the security of a military base right next door in that situation, rather than a base that's miles away.  But I am not Japanese, don't live in Japan, and am lucky enough not to be a stone's throw from North Korea, so I can't speak to how they must feel.

84 Gabs,

Whats is that thick brown stuff yall spread on toast?

85 Vic - people always assume a ship, much less a battle group is easy to find. They are so wrong.

Yeah its funny. We knew every time they launched out of Vladistock but they never got within 500 miles of us that time.

86 The unknown illness was first detected on November 10 in several districts in the central part of northern Uganda, according to a statement from the health ministry.

38 people dead is kind of alarming but how exactly did they determine that it was some "new deadly disease"?

87

And Turner himself?  He has three ex-wives and five kids.

When I was a college student, he came to the university to give a talk.  It took 4 black SUVs to get him the seven miles from the airport to the school.  I have no idea who all was in those cars, if anybody at all.

88 Part of the reason we are so behind in math and science is that they still keep all the kids at the same level in the early grades when they are eager to learn. My first grader can do any math you give him yet they still have him counting apples. Then, by the time they track them they are starting in on adolescence and don't want to do shit. It's all about making every body comfortable and not hurting any little feelings.

89

85 sTevo

 

Vegemite - an Aussie delicacy :-)  Compared by some non believers to sump oil...

 

But delicious on hot buttered toast

90 One lab tech at the Center for Disease Control in Atlanta turning on his computer and typing in the symptoms >> Teams of Ugandan scientists working around the clock

91 For garrett and our other hockey fans:  slick move on shoot-out goal

92

Say what you want about whether or not it should have happened and everything else associated with Wikileaks, but it happened and since that is what is flowing under the bridge, it couldn't have come at a better time, imo:

http://tinyurl.com/28xy4pb

Those leaks exposed the Obama administration for what it is.

93 I like creamed corn.  Even the canned stuff.  Home made creamed corn is spectacular! 

94 "Uganda is working "around the clock" with international health experts to identify an unprecedented illness..."

Can we please STOP the unprecedented overuse of unprecedented? Along with unexpected, shellacked, folks, you guys.

95 It's all about making every body comfortable and not hurting any little feelings.

Except the bright kids; they're bored on one hand and made to feel like freaks on the other.

96

Those leaks exposed the Obama administration for what it is.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at December 08, 2010 09:02 AM (RkRxq)

I saw that on another site last week. Do you know of any single conservative site that is compiling all the ones that are good for showing up liberals?

97 Gabs,

Wifey's Aussie pen pal visited us in ~'79-80. Brought that stuff and I couldn't bring myself to try it. Although, I licked the inside of the bottle, to get the last drop, of Bundaberg Rum. I can still remember the sweet aroma.

98

One time we accidentally tore a new bag of Fritos so we put them in a paper sack...which was soaked up solid with grease the next morning. 

That was enough for me.

That's why I eat them only once or twice a year.

99 I'll die before I'll-

- eat chitlins.

100 Helpful holiday hints!.....or something.... Top Five Uses Kathy Griffin Has For Her Mud Flaps

101 #87  38 people dead is kind of alarming but how exactly did they determine that it was some "new deadly disease"?

They ruled out bubonic plague because the a) the symptoms the patients exhibited didn't match what is typically seen with plague victims (generalized vs localized inflammation and b) they already sent samples to Fort Collins which were negative for plague bacterium. 

Ugandan staff have developed a treatment that has so far halted the death toll at 38, according to the source.

Treatment, or some sort of quarantine procedure?  If it is the former, I guess they took a symptomatic patient and injected them with any anti-bacterial or anti-fungal agent they had and the patient recovered.  The latter probably involved mere isolation of symptomatic people. 

How they determine if it is a new disease?  Well, if it is bacterial, they grow up the bacteria, sequence the DNA, and compare it to known pathogenic strains.  I imagine it is a similar process for determining if a virus is causing this disease, although it'll take longer to determine the identity of the virus given that it takes longer to propagate and isolate viruses from culture.

102 Has anyone seen the proposed budget bill? All I can find is the one they are going to use that has already been through the Senate [in order to prevent any Republic amendments].
Thanks.

103 Fritos make for good fire starter. Rumor has it that Fritos leave no traceable accelerants.

104
Long time Aussie reader of Ace etc, and I used to post on LGF in the good old days,,,but what are Fritos - corn chips????

Yes, but very salty and greasy.

Come for the salt, stay for the grease.

105 This is the bill being used as the budget bill:
http://tinyurl.com/349thwd

106 The Supremes allowed it as well.

Well FDR did threaten them with the Judiciary Reorganization Bill of 1937. So their choices were limited.

107 when i was a kid nothing was better than the school lunch.....on mondays it was hot dogs and chips.....i would get a hot dog and a bag of bbq frito's corn chips...crumble up the chips and put them on the hot dog and taste a slice of heaven......

108

100 sTevo

Vegemite - I love it, my kids detest the taste:-)

 

As for Bundy Rum....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULEQpUY_crc

 

Old ad but a goody :-)

109 regular corn chips with homemade chili is another favorite.....

110

Fritos make for good fire starter. Rumor has it that Fritos leave no traceable accelerants.

Posted by: sTevo at December 08, 2010 09:10 AM (MO71e)

Potato chips also work well as fire starters.

111

OK obviously I need help with the linkies...HELP PLEASE! How do I link here? Thank you :-)

 

 

112 Another thing I used to like when I was a kid but now disgusts me is Oreos.  They're not even made of food.  It's like they started with some petroleum-based paste and then moved some carbon radicals around to decide what they were going to do with it - could have been a car tire, some Oreos, maybe cosmetics, whatever.  In a world where everything unhealthy is being outlawed, it's only a matter of time before these guys get blacklisted.

113 why would you want to burn chips? chips are for eatin'....

114 Ewww! Chitlins!

Was working New Years Eve at a corporate hotel in downtown Chicago one year when management decided to "celebrate diversity" and have the kitchen cook up some chitlins and black-eyed peas for the staff lunch.

Black-eyed peas weren't so bad but the whole lobby smelled like ASS for hours after the whole Chitlins fiasco!

115 Found a summary of the 2011 budget bill:
http://tinyurl.com/38rq56x

What else is tucked into the "framework" of this budget?

116 i can't eat oreo's anymore either...

117

Pigileaks: The Pigford Applications 

Black Farmer Blows Whistle on Pigford: 'If You Got a Potted Plant, That Makes You a Farmer'

Both links lead to BigGovernment.com.

As one of the commenters in the first linked story says, this is maddening.

 

118 Fritos make for good fire starter.

I love this blog.

Oreos were fabulous before they changed the recipe to appease the Center for Science[sic] in the Public Interest[sic]'s anti-transfat crusade.  Now they're like eating those foam shapes kids make stupid crafts out of (so they don't accidently hurt themselves with paper shapes).

119

why would you want to burn chips? chips are for eatin'....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at December 08, 2010 09:16 AM (eOXTH)

You could use them in an emergency. A buddy of mine watched a tractor trailer full of chips burn. He said the fire melted the metal body of the trailer.

120 There are very few things I've tried that I don't like (or won't eat), but blood sausage and head cheese are two of them.  Also, kimchee.  When I had a lab, I had a "no kimchee" policy in the food fridge (one of my grad students was Korean and my technician was Japanese).  I'd rather smell beta-mercaptoethanol than that crap.  I caught my student and tech breaking the rule  -- they lived, but barely!  (I was surprised that a Japanese person would like kimchee, actually.) 

121 Hi, Gabs!  To link, you first need to make a "short" link using a service like TinyURL.  Then you highlight the text you want to link, click the icon that looks like a chain link above the text entry window, paste the new, shortened URL into the appropriate field, and click "INSERT." 

122 How do I link here?

Copy the link you want to direct us to, and then drop it into the TinyURL site to get a reduced-sized link (required if your link has more than 25 characters; optional if not).  Then copy the TinyURL link.

Return to Ace's comments.  Type in and highlight the desired text, and then click the link button above (to the left of the Omega symbol).  Move the http:// portion as indicated, and then hit insert / apply / OK (sounds like my wedding night).

And Voila!  You have an AceLink.

123 I've never had chitlins.  They're pork "puckers," aren't they?  I like most offal so I don't think I'd necessarily dislike them (I know they aren't innards, but they seem like they'd be related).  

124 Here's a sad one for aviation buffs:

The big jet looks forlornly out of place perched in the near-deserted suburban lot, as if it just skidded off a nearby airport runway or crash-landed minutes ago.

But this plane has long been grounded, a retired icon of a bygone golden age of air travel. The 4-decade-old former Pan Am jet, the first commercial Boeing 747 ever built, could well be ensconced in an aviation museum, maybe next to the celebrated planes piloted by the Wright brothers or Charles Lindbergh.

Instead, it sits on a lot 25 miles northeast of Seoul, far from its U.S. birthplace, an ignominious end to a storied career.

Purchased by South Korean investors from a Southern California airplane graveyard a decade ago, the airliner — dubbed the "Juan T. Trippe" after the Pan Am founder — endured years as an aviation-themed restaurant. Then that venture failed.

Now it languishes, all but forgotten, its insides musty with old menus and upended chairs scattered across the floor. Its owner winces each time she stands beneath the big fuselage, which reminds her of a business miscalculation of colossal proportions.

125 OK, so chitlins are intestines, not "puckers."  I wonder if I'd like them.  I haven't had tripe either so it's hard to say. 

126 #124  I'd rather smell beta-mercaptoethanol than that crap.

Geez, kimchee must smell really bad if you prefer the smell of 2-ME to that.  Although I have gotten somewhat used to the smell of 2-ME with all the samples I've had to prepare for SDS-PAGE over the years..

127 Black Farmer Blows Whistle on Pigford: 'If You Got a Potted Plant, That Makes You a Farmer'

Posted by: MWR at December 08, 2010 09:18 AM (4df7R)

Hell, Pigford I had cases of people getting money based on a family plot. One wonders how you "farm" a 1/2 acre graveyard.

This bill is the most corrupt version of payoff for the CBC in history. All based on bogus cases that the DOJ didn't even fight in court.

We need some impeachment here.

128 Hey you assholes on the MN Supreme Court reading AOS. This is how revolutions in the banana republics got started. The influential citizens saw that the rule of law had become subverted and decided to eliminate the “subverters”.

I'm sorry, but my opinion of MSans is getting to be the same as CAans and MSans. Screw 'em. That Franken and Dayton could even come within recount distance is bad enough. Are the Republicans frozen stiff in that state?

_{/Or could I blame Michael Steele?}

129
When I had a lab, I had a "no kimchee" policy in the food fridge (one of my grad students was Korean and my technician was Japanese).  I'd rather smell beta-mercaptoethanol than that crap.

My Dad said when he was in Korea you could smell it when somebody opened a crock on the other side of a village.

130

There are few foods I won't eat, but I absolutely refuse to eat shepherd's pie.  I know, I know: "What's wrong with shepherd's pie?"  Short answer?  Nothing.  It's perfectly fine.  It just happens to be that the last time I had shepherd's pie without feeling an urge to vomit was also the first time I ever watched Robocop.  Specifically the opening scene when the boardroom is slaughtered by the big bad robot.  I think I was about eight years old at the time.  It's one of the few times my parents made me leave the room instead of letting me watch the movie (not that I put up much of a fight).  To this day I get sick to my stomach just THINKING about shepherd's pie!

131 Kimchi is so nasty it's actually good, - if you like garlic.  And yeah, you won't be kissing anybody for a while.

132 why would you want to burn chips? chips are for eatin'....

Go get you a lighter and a bag of Doritos and go out on the back patio and light a Dorito chip on fire.

Go on!  Do it!

It's interesting...  I promise!

*Disclaimer!!!  Do NOT do this if you are in a rental!  Even one chip will result in a weird blob that will permanently stain concrete.  There is just no good way to explain this to your landlord on move out day.

133 Laura Ingraham usually hits pretty hard on the dismal learning taking place at our public schools.  It's actually pretty frightening, not to mention humiliating.  We need to drop the feel-good, multi-culti crap that is so focused on.  Speaking of reading, my 8th grader (who was reading at age 4) had homework yesterday where his task was to define prefixes like "anti," "pre," "non."  Really, really simple stuff that was actually mastered by him years ago in prior grades.  It was ridiculous. 

Creamed corn.  Canned variety: yellow puke balls that tastes like arse.  Homemade variety: awesome.  Saute some onion, add some broth, then add frozen corn.  Cook 5-7 minutes till warm.  Add some cream.  Delish.

134 119
We'll have to pass it to find out what's in it.

Business as usual!

Glad we had an election.

135 I haven't had tripe either so it's hard to say.

Tripe is vile.  It looks bad, smells bad, and tastes disgusting.  It's also hard to spear with a fork, as if nature is trying to warn you away somehow.

Reminds me of that horrid white blood sausage they eat in Germany at like six in the morning together with a Weißbier (which, to be fair, is good regardless of the hour, and may well be the point of the whole exercise).

136 Specifically the opening scene when the boardroom is slaughtered by the big bad robot.  I think I was about eight years old at the time.  It's one of the few times my parents made me leave the room instead of letting me watch the movie (not that I put up much of a fight).  To this day I get sick to my stomach just THINKING about shepherd's pie!

Posted by: MWR at December 08, 2010 09:26 AM (4df7R)

It appears they didn't make you leave the room soon enough.

137

I think transporting kimchi requires hazmat placards on the vehicle. Not sure, have to check the book.

I have eaten it. It definately is an aquired taste.

138

Thanks MWR and Thinking things over - much appreciated - time to practise then :-)

139 Isn't potted meat made of tripe? 

140 121
We got some reparations by another name--what's not to like!

141 Reading – 17th: Shanghai and Hong Kong, china, Belgium, Estonia, Iceland

How'd the assessors themselves do in geography? Shanghai isn't a country.

142 15 I'll die before I eat creamed corn.

I love cream corn.

Me Too.

Must be a Yankee who's only eaten Yankee Cream Corn. 

Honey, put some sugar in it!

143 Green Giant frozen cream corn is good.

144

See, now, kimchee I like.  Does this make me weird?  I know when Rain, the Kpop star/actor who starred in Ninja Assassin, was interviewed on at least one entertainment show, he said he hoped that he could make people in the rest of the world appreciate kimchee the same way they love it in Korea.  I could have told him that it wasn't going to happen.

...Unless he advertised it shirtless.  That might work.  At least with me and my fellow ladies.

I'm not surprised the Japanese enjoy it, given their penchant for odd foods (at least by Western standards).  The sheer number of different flavored Kit-Kats you can buy in Japan boggles the mind.  It's like the candy version of Pokemon.

145 How'd the assessors themselves do in geography? Shanghai isn't a country.

Posted by: arhooley, conflicted Californian at December 08, 2010 09:31 AM (BJzi5)

I know...neither are Hong Kong and Macao.  They might have cherry picked the China areas but if you look at the table of results, many other countries did better than us....and they spend a shitload less per student.

146 Long time Aussie reader of Ace etc, and I used to post on LGF in the good old days,,,but what are Fritos - corn chips????

What? No Fritos in Oz? Heathens.



Fritos and bean dip and Frito pie, two Texas delicacies.  

Anyone here remember the Frito Bandito before he got flushed down the PC memory hole?

147 Tripe isn't bad in menudo. It really has no taste, it's just very chewy, like gristle. It gets any flavor from the rest of the ingredients.

148 The unknown illness was first detected on November 10 in several districts in the central part of northern Uganda, according to a statement from the health ministry.

It's NASA's arsenic-based bacteria on the rampage! Oh wait, that's turned out to be probably fakery, in the best James Hansen tradition.

149 There are few foods I won't eat, but I absolutely refuse to eat shepherd's pie.  I know, I know: "What's wrong with shepherd's pie?"  Short answer?  Nothing.  It's perfectly fine.  It just happens to be that the last time I had shepherd's pie without feeling an urge to vomit was also the first time I ever watched Robocop.

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There are so many variations on shepherd's pie (we used to call it "hidden corn").  Which version(s) have you tried?  Ours was really simple: ground beef layer, creamed corn layer, and mashies.  I remember making it for my dad once after my mom died and he criticized it, which is funny because you basically cannot screw up that recipe. 

But I know what you mean about things that turn your stomach without much reason.  Both Mr Y-not and I were scarred (separately) in our youth by corn chowder.  Both of our families were on budgets (his was on a very tight budget; mine a bit less so but still frugal) so our moms made it with milk instead of cream.  And no thickeners.  Plus in my mom's version there was always onion which for some reason she would not sautee before adding to the soup so you'd get these semi-cooked pieces of onion with an overly sharp taste.  Ick.  I think Mr Y-not's scarring also involved the stomach flu.  Once you've tossed friskies with any food object, it's so much harder to go back to eating it. 

Over the years we've had restaurant versions of chowders that incorporate corn so we're almost over our phobia. 


And I love garlic, but hate kimchee.  I think it's the consistency combined with the fermented (rotten) flavor... and the smell. 

150 I'm watching the sunrise hit the Wasatch Mtns this morning as I type.  So pretty. 

151 Gabs in Australia

Frito-Lays chips likely overtook the grocery market around 1960 to feed the boomer kids at the onset of American industrial produced junk food diet of plastic bagged snacks to accompany bottled sodas prior to canned sodas.

Fritos are the 1/6" thick fried processed corn chips shaped in strips before being offered in chunks for dips.

The other main line product was Lays potato chips, "Betcha can't eat just one" ad campaign.

Did y'all have access to Hostess Twinkies, the other envy of American school kids lunch boxes?

152

Anyone here remember the Frito Bandito before he got flushed down the PC memory hole?

Arriba! Arriba!!!

153
118 Ewww! Chitlins!

I used to live next door to a woman, who could stink up the whole neigborhood with those things.

154 Speaking of smelly food, I've got some hungry cats sitting here staring at me. My maine coon (I denounce myself) male gets pretty pushy when he doesn't get his way. BRB.

155 See, now, kimchee I like.  Does this make me weird?

Yes. Most definitely.

But we'll still like you MWR!

(Just don't try to put any of your nasty-ass shit in YRM's fridge!)

156 Frito Bandito

157 So I have to decide what to make for Christmas dinner this year.  Our "tradition" is to make something different each year.  We've had things like duck, rabbit, kangaroo, and lobster.  Anyway, we've never had ham so I was thinking of that.  But I want a really good ham - a country ham with the bone.  But I'm reading up on them and it seems like cooking them can be tricky if you don't have a big enough pot (I guess they're usually 13-15 lbs). 

Does anyone have any experience cooking a real country ham?  And, do you have a favorite supplier?  There are tons of them on the internet but it's a bit overwhelming. 

158 Tripe is vile.

Hence the insult telling someone that their opinion is tripe.

Referenced as "stomach lining" that can include the intestinal tract, btw.

Mexicans eat menudo (tripe hominy chili) New Years Eve.
Americans in the South love their black eyed peas New Year's Day.

159 Okay don't put it in Y-Not's fridge!

But chances are, YRM wouldn't appreciate it much either...

160

That's done, Safe til suppertime.

I like creamed corn. Carrots, on the other hand, are the Devil's handiwork. And beets. And half the bean world.

161 Yeah, I remember the Frito Bandito.

Speaking of old commercials, Folgers used to run one around this time of year with a cute guy ("Peter") coming home early in the morning, making coffee, and seeing his kid sister after being away (probably at college or something like that).  He was so cute - dark hair, cute smile, wearing a fisherman's sweater.  I think they ran it for at least 10 years around the holidays.  I always looked forward to it.  It's reappearance on tv always signaled Christmas was coming. 

Anyway, I am sorry to say that they've remade it with some hipster doufus blonde guy, unshaven, with a mole on his lip (I kid you not), who's apparently come back from the Peace Corps or some such (coming back from Mali, I think). 

Bummer. 

162 my opinion of MSans is getting to be the same as CAans and MSans.

What's wrong with Mi'sippi?

163 Carrots are poison. Everyone who eats carrots will die.

164

150

 

Maybe there are Fritos here but as a non chip eater maybe I just haven't seen them :-)  Probably named something else ---like I read the other day here that the Flying High movie was named Airplane over there in the US

165 Americans in the South love their black eyed peas New Year's Day.

Posted by: maverick muse at December 08, 2010 09:47 AM (H+LJc)

Not here. The tradition is red beans and rice. In GA we had black-eyed peas in the summer. They are actually hard to find here, except for the damn mushy canned crap.

166 Does anyone have any experience cooking a real country ham?  And, do you have a favorite supplier?  There are tons of them on the internet but it's a bit overwhelming. 

Do you have a Honeybaked Ham store there? The spiral cut ham is awesome. Need to order ASAP, though.

167 And beets.

Oooh, I love beets.  If you've only had the canned/jarred kind but never had roasted beets, you should try them at a restaurant sometime.  I make them at home and they're worth the extra effort.  Basically, you roast them like potatoes, peel them under running water, chop them up, then put them (while warm) into a nice sweet-tart salad dressing (I like a maple-fig dressing).  Excellent! 

168 mpur
lol,
No America raised adult can say they never heard of the Frito Bandito.

I'd forgotten that ad campaign song. Pancho Villa the Frito Bandito, "I'll take them from you". Once a thief, always a thief.

Today's Frito ad would message "you're entitled to Fritos because you deserve them."

169 I'm not overly upset about those test results.  We scored 7-12% lower than the Chinese on reading, math and science tests.  It's not something to be happy about, but it's no worse than getting a B+ when the top student gets and A.

170 Carrots are poison. Everyone who eats carrots will die.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 08, 2010 09:50 AM (4ucxv)

LOL, I love carrots as well. What is funny is Monday I had some beef stew I fixed for super with my grandson I am taking care of after school. We were eating that also with the little girl from next door who was playing with him when we started supper.

She had to pick through it to take all the carrots out.

171 Do you have a Honeybaked Ham store there? The spiral cut ham is awesome. Need to order ASAP, though.

Yes, I think we do.

I was sort of holding out hope to do a more classic, dry hung ham.  I've been reading up on discussion boards and it's like an entire subculture of ham lovers out there.  Everyone has their favorite "state" version of hams.  Kentucky, Virginia (obviously), even Maryland.  So I was sort of hoping to do one of those and make my own glaze. 

I figure even if I wind up with a huge ham, I can use it in tons of recipes afterwards. 

172 You know what's on SyFy now?  Hollywood Treasures!!  SyFy is dead to me now.

173 But yes, country ham stinks when it is cooking.

174 (I like a maple-fig dressing).  Excellent!

I'm salivating imagining that topping served on roasted pork tenderloin.

175

Y-not:  there are many country ham suppliers from eastern/tidewater Virginia.  I am just learning the tiny url thing so cannot link, but try these:  Edwards Hams, Felts Hams or just google country ham.

I have cooked according to pkg directions (& there are several suggested directions).  The way i like best is to cut oven on 500 degrees, put ham in & let cook 15 minutes, cut oven off & let sit for so many hours (the pkg will tell you).  then repeat later.  Rather than fill the roasting pan with water, I   throw in whatever leftover juice is in the frig plus whatever sweet fruits are around like canned pineapple, apples, an orange or cranberries:  any thing that will produce a "piquant" undertone.

2 things:  the brown sugar/mustard glaze is good & I recommend a sweet glaze of some kind.  finally, debone ham when it is warm.

call someone at the Wallace Edwards hotline or any of the ham 800#s.  We Virginians take pride in our hams & will be thrilled to talk to you about it.

176 LOL, looks like our food post from Thanksgiving has been moved.

177 This is the source for the maple-fig salad dressing.  Very good and relatively low fat (although high sugar).  Packs a punch so you really don't need much.  Tons better than "diet" salad dressings. 

178 For anyone interested, SpaceX will attempt to launch their Falcon9 rocket today at 10:43am ET.

They have a live feed on their webpage.

179

Rep. Joe Barton (R-Texas) pushed back on Monday against a contention by a Democratic FCC commissioner that the government should create new regulations to promote diversity in news programming.

Barton was reacting to a proposal made last week by FCC Commissioner Michael Copps, who in a speech suggested that broadcasters be subject to a new "public values test" every four years.

Beck was all over this yesterday.  And you guys think he's crazy.

180 Posted by: kelley in virginia at December 08, 2010 09:55 AM

Thanks!  I've seen that method posted elsewhere, so it must be good.

So how big a pan/pot do I need?  I'm worried I will get this huge ham and not be able to cook it! 

181

Anyway, we've never had ham so I was thinking of that.  But I want a really good ham - a country ham with the bone.  But I'm reading up on them and it seems like cooking them can be tricky if you don't have a big enough pot (I guess they're usually 13-15 lbs). 

Does anyone have any experience cooking a real country ham?  And, do you have a favorite supplier?  There are tons of them on the internet but it's a bit overwhelming. 

Posted by: Y-not is thinking of food, per usual at December 08, 2010 09:46 AM (IDL9N)

Pot? What do you do, boil them?

I've never cooked any country ham but I've eaten it many times. It's salty as hell, and that's coming from a salt lover.

I got a sample of country ham once in a grocery store and it tasted great. I told the person cooking it that it was much less salty than I thought it would be (she was cooking slices of country ham in an electric skillet). She told me the secret was cooking it in coca-cola. It didn't taste sweet but it wasn't super salty, either.

182 182 For anyone interested, SpaceX will attempt to launch their Falcon9 rocket today at 10:43am ET.

Can we put Julian Assange on it before they launch? 

183 Carrots are poison. Everyone who eats carrots will die.

Yeah, I hear you but they are still the best delivery system for shoveling delicious hummus into one's mouth.

Cigarettes or Carrots, one or the other is gonna kill me someday.

I know this.

And yet, I indulge my appetites!

This is truly decadence...

184

155 maverick muse

No Twinkies here! We have our own dietary vices here - both sweet and savoury - meat pies, chiko rolls, hot chips,  etc

Plus American imports like Macca's, KFC, Pizza Hut...

 

 

185 Kimchee will cure things that aren't even wrong with you yet.

186

Do you have a Honeybaked Ham store there? The spiral cut ham is awesome.

We got a catalog from them and were cracking up that anyone would pay some of the prices in there! I don't know if the hams are worth it, but the other things were so over-priced that I doubt it.

187 124  (I was surprised that a Japanese person would like kimchee, actually.)
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Older brother of a high school friend of mine married a Japanese woman and had a restaurant up in Logan, Utah for a while. She made the most amazing kimchee for the restaurant.  Whenever I went to the place with a group of folks, nobody else in the group would touch the stuff, so I got to snarf it all.

Sadly, last time I was up in Logan, the restaurant was no more.

188

Y-not, you have nothing to fear from me. All your beets are belong to you. :-)

I hate kidney beans, butters, lima. Love pintos, black-eyed peas (which are actually beans) white or great northern in a good bean soup, string. Up here they put kidney beans in chili. HERESY. My mother made a good homemade chili, once I picked all the damn beans out.

189 Cigarettes or Carrots, one or the other is gonna kill me someday.

My great-uncle, Captain John (he was a merchant marine and one hell of a character), went on an all-carrot diet once and turned himself orange.  So I'm told. 

190 The leftards have taken over our education system and converted it to a propaganda/indoctrination mechanism. This is the result.

191

150

I'm checking out the supermarket later to see if we have Fritos :-)

192 For anyone interested, SpaceX will attempt to launch their Falcon9 rocket today at 10:43am ET.

Can we put Julian Assange on it before they launch? 

Posted by: Y-not

Just chain him in the flame trench.  No use giving him a free ride.

193 Posted by: Anachronda at December 08, 2010 10:00 AM

Are you in Utah?  I've lost track of the beehive state folks. 

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I hate kidney beans, butters, lima.

Yeah, I was scarred by lima beans as a kid.  I like them now. 

So many of the foods I didn't like (which wasn't that large a list, but still) were victims of crappy, cheap frozen foods or bad recipes.  But, hey, my mom was trying to feed us on a budget. 

194

But I know what you mean about things that turn your stomach without much reason.

There are a couple things that I stopped liking during pregnancy and still can't eat! Ten years later and I run screaming from tempeh.

Okay, bad example, because most people have that reaction.

195 For anyone interested, SpaceX will attempt to launch their Falcon9 rocket today at 10:43am ET.

I'll be tuned in!

They have a live feed on their webpage.

I hope it runs better than during their test-firing on Friday. I can watch people playing Starcraft 2 in smooth HD over free servers, while their low-res feed was a slideshow. Get an Own3d account, Elon!

196 From Bret Baier's Political Grapevine:

Members of a bipartisan group of lawmakers called the Congressional Prayer Caucus want to make sure President Obama knows the country's national motto.

Forty-one Republicans and one of the five Democrats from the caucus sent a letter to the president asking him to correct a mistake he made during a speech last month in Jakarta, Indonesia when he said -- quote -- "In the United States, our motto is E Pluribus Unum -- out of many, one."

The lawmakers point out the official national motto -- approved by Congress in 1956 -- is "In God We Trust." The letter calls it -- quote -- "a disservice to the people you represent."

Caucus leaders also point out President Obama's omission of the word "creator" on more than one occasion when quoting from the Declaration of Independence.

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What a putz.

197 @189 Kimchee will cure things that aren't even wrong with you yet

lol! 

Every once in a while I'll try it again, just to see if I can learn to like it.  (I'm stubborn like that.)  But no luck.

However, over the years I've developed a taste for some of the nastier sides/condiments that they serve with Indian food, so I think it's just a matter of time before I like kimchee. 

198
161 So I have to decide what to make for Christmas dinner this year.  Our "tradition" is to make something different each year.  We've had things like duck, rabbit, kangaroo, and lobster.  Anyway, we've never had ham so I was thinking of that.  But I want a really good ham - a country ham with the bone.  But I'm reading up on them and it seems like cooking them can be tricky if you don't have a big enough pot (I guess they're usually 13-15 lbs). 

Does anyone have any experience cooking a real country ham?  And, do you have a favorite supplier?  There are tons of them on the internet but it's a bit overwhelming.

Alton Brown did a segment on cooking country (dry cured) ham.

Recipe here.

Be prepared for a 2 - 3 day ordeal.

199

Goodnight - as it's 2am here in Sydney, looks like bed is beckoning :-)

 

 

200 Bad habits?

Breakfast Jagger. 

I like my prune juice fermented.

201 We got a catalog from them and were cracking up that anyone would pay some of the prices in there! I don't know if the hams are worth it, but the other things were so over-priced that I doubt it.

Had a boss who would give everyone a Honeybaked Ham for Christmas. They're awesome, but, yeah, I'd be hard put to plunk down what they ask for them.

As far as cooking one, my mom always baked hers with a brown sugar/pineapple glaze with pineapple rings on the ham. My brother in law smokes his. Both are pretty damn good.

202 Up north we eat green peas on New Year's Eve and everyone leaves some on the plate to get tossed out the back door. It's supposed to bring good luck in the coming new year.

When I was living in Kentucky I bought some black eyed peas on December 30th. The cashier heard my northern accent and gushed about how I was learning how to celebrate the holiday southern style!

203 I hope it runs better than during their test-firing on Friday. I can watch people playing Starcraft 2 in smooth HD over free servers, while their low-res feed was a slideshow. Get an Own3d account, Elon!
Posted by: Waterhouse

Yeah seems they got some issues with vid delivery.  All in all I cannot be too cross with them, it is their money after all.  If they want to spend it on hookers and blow so be it.  Unlike NASA my taxes have not paid for it.

204 It really has no taste, it's just very chewy, like gristle.

Uh, I'll take this description as my cue to never eat it.  Few things are as vomit inducing as gristle in one's mouth.  Besides, thanks to this blog, I've reserved that word to only accompany three others: "encased," "head," and "Kennedy."

205 197 Posted by: Anachronda at December 08, 2010 10:00 AM

Are you in Utah?  I've lost track of the beehive state folks.
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Not anymore. Lived up in Logan for 25ish years; since I'm an Army brat, that's like five times longer than I lived anywhere else.

Now I'm in the California desert.

206

And yesterday, Obama called Republicans "hostage takers".  What a jerk.

And on that note, I'm off to work.

207

Y-not, I love Indian food. My wife works every other Saturday, so when she's off we go out for Indian buffet for lunch. If I were forced to eat only vegan, I could almost do it with Indian. But I still love goat curry, lamb vindaloo and all the rest.

This Sat. is off, I can hardly wait!!

208 @209
Not anymore. Lived up in Logan for 25ish years; since I'm an Army brat, that's like five times longer than I lived anywhere else.

ha, ha!  I was in science for 20'ish years, so we moved every ~5 years to follow the best electron microscopes! 


Now I'm in the California desert.

We left California (eastern LA county) in August.  'Glad to be gone.


Is Logan worth visiting?  It'd be a couple of hours drive for us, but I thought with it being a college town and near Idaho, it might be pretty and have some cute areas. 

209 All in all I cannot be too cross with them, it is their money after all.

Yeah, me either. Most important thing is a successful launch.

210

Be prepared for a 2 - 3 day ordeal.

Posted by: franksalterego at December 08, 2010 10:05 AM (+6fgE)

Hmm... they cook it in Dr. Pepper. That seems to confirm that coca-cola would work.

211 @211 Y-not, I love Indian food.

Me, too.  And it's a cuisine I haven't been able to cook for myself.  (I can fake my way through Vietnamese, Thai, and Chinese, but not Indian.)  We were pleasantly surprised to find an excellent Indian restaurant in Provo. 

Now you've got me thinking about masala.  Shame on you!

212 bigred,

me, too--I hate the beans that are so dense that you inevitably taste the bland content that soups/sauces just can't penetrate.

As newlyweds, we'd argue over what beans go best with "real" chili. Texans are partial to kidney. But in Arizona, we always made ours with pinto.

213 From somewhere up the thread- Korean food for Japanese is sort of like Mexican food for us. It fills that same garlicky, spicy niche. Also kimchee isn't just one thing. There's literally hundreds of types. The weirdest kimchee/korean dish combo I ever had was- Grilled sections of a pig's small intestine, where the pig had been slaughtered just after it ate a meal of corn so that the small intestines were filled with digesting corn mush. Kind of weird tasting, yet sweet. The non-cabbage, some kind of incendiary root based kimchee performed the role of ketchup.

214 Muse, I'll go with pintos. Up here we have "Green Bay Chili" which is more like a spicy soup, with kidney beans. It's like saying "Milwaukee Clam Chowder", just don't make sense.

215 Is Logan worth visiting?

In the summer, forested canyons of Logan were idyllic for those from the desert. Their university cafeteria used to sell the BEST produced ice cream ever, dairy ingredients from their own ag dept. /No telling except to expect nothing the same there now.

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Anybody ever eat "Cincinnati style chili"?

There are two major fast food chains (Five Star and someone else I forget) in Cincinnati who sell it.

One brand has chocolate in it, the other has cinnamon. It's served over spaghetti noodles.

IT'S AWFUL SHIT!!! DON'T EVEN TRY IT!!!!!

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I've only had Indian food once.  Some sort of veggie fritter thing.  The only way I can describe the taste is that it's like licking a really dusty, old Persian rug in an antique store.  I don't know what spices were used, but I can't handle them.  And tasting curry in anything will cause me to violently throw people down flights of stairs.

218 Up here we have "Green Bay Chili" which is more like a spicy soup, with kidney beans.

Iowa chili has tomato juice to make it soup-like...ick.

I use pintos (canned in "chili sauce" because I am lazy) and black beans. One can of diced tomatoes is usually too much liquid for me.

I am now totally heading downtown to Real Chili today or tomorrow for lunch.

219 it's like licking a really dusty, old Persian rug in an antique store

Sounds like cumin.

220 Y-not, one restaurant we go to has a grocery store next door. All the Indian stuff you'd ever need. They have packs of stuff like MREs from India. Aloo Muttar all made up, just open. put in bowl and microwave. I cook them up on nights wife works. Nice fix between saturdays. They also have packs of spices, just add meat and fresh ingredients.

221 212 Is Logan worth visiting?  It'd be a couple of hours drive for us, but I thought with it being a college town and near Idaho, it might be pretty and have some cute areas.
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It's beautiful. It's a ways off I-15, so it's not as busy as the Wasatch Front. It's at the bottom of a valley ringed by mountains.

There's a lot of agriculture that goes on up there in addition to the college; Utah State University is an agricultural college. The University runs a museum farm, although I must admit I've only visited it for the Festival of the American West.

I've not thought about it in tourist terms, though, so I'm not sure what to look for. There's an elk ranch up in the mountain that does some sort of touristy things, but it's a bit late in the year for that sort of the thing. Since Halloween is over, it's too late for the Pumpkin Walk. This time of year, the big thing is actually to go up to Preston, Idaho for the Christmas lights; in addition to the lights put up by the town, there's a farm up there that always puts on an amazing display, if you can find it.

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it's like licking a really dusty, old Persian rug in an antique store

Sounds like cumin.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at December 08, 2010 10:29 AM (4ucxv)

I love cumin, hate curry powder.

223 219  Their university cafeteria used to sell the BEST produced ice cream ever, dairy ingredients from their own ag dept.
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Had some Computer Science classes in the Nutrition and Food Science building. The particular room we were in had a back door with a window in it. A couple of us would sit towards the back of the room. When the professor turned his back, we'd sneak out the door down to the store in the building and get some ice cream cones. Then we'd sneak back in when he turned his back again with our cones.

Found out a couple years later that really annoyed him.

224 Impeaching one judge every 30 years or so is not going to stop the tyranny of the judiciary.  Reverse that statistic and start impeaching 30 judges per year and we might have something.

225 Best way to taste Indian food is to go during lunch hours. Most of them have a buffet, so you can see what you're getting. Just take a small portion and see what you like. There's a lot more than curry, and even curry doesn't taste like you would expect.

226 221 I've only had Indian food once.  Some sort of veggie fritter thing

If you can find a good place that does northern Indian (in my experience the southern kind seems to be too red chili based... it all sort of tastes vaguely the same to me), you should go with a foodie and try again.  There are delicious, aromatic (but not hot) dishes made with coconut milk (coconut kurmas) that are to die for.  Also, their aromatic rices and breads.  One of our favorite breads is peshawari Naan.  It has a sweet filling that I think has some anise flavor.  Delicious! 

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So I guess nobody has tried "Cincinnati style chili".

228 I've not thought about it in tourist terms, though, so I'm not sure what to look for.

What you described ounds great!  We like to poke around little towns and just have lunch and walk around.  And nature walks and drives. 

I have a feeling we'd like it.

We're definitely going up to Idaho (Ketchum-Hailey) for the Trailing of the Sheep festival next fall.  I've been wanting to go to that for years.  (I'm weird.)

229 My wife is from TX. She makes chilli with Bush's Chili Beans which are pinto beans in a spicy sauce.

My original chili recipe had no beans in it all and I used beef instead of ground meat.

My wife loved mine, except to her it was way too hot, so she adopted my beef recipe (minus some of the pepper and all of the jalapenos) and her chili beans.

And I grew up in GA and I never heard of black-eyed peas on New Tear's day.

230 I've said it before and I'll say it again, real chili does not have beans in it.

231 Has anyone here made Colorado beef?  We had it at Sundance a few weeks ago and my husband has been raving ever since.  The recipes I've found look simple enough, but I gather you need really good chilis. 

232 Beans in Chili are an abomination to a purist...but if you must, Pinto Beans are the only way to go.

233 231 So I guess nobody has tried "Cincinnati style chili".
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I have. Love it. But I also know that I have no taste.

234 Well, that SpaceX launch sure was purty.

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I like Cincinnati chili. The nice part is you order it any way you want. I prefer no beans. Used to make it all the time when my kids were still at home. You just get over the fact it's not Texas chili and enjoy.

The one thing good about having spent my life driving over the road is experiencing all the regional foods in this country. Have also learned to enjoy all the ethnic cruisines we can find here.

236 Congrats to SpaceX. Dragon is in orbit!

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I've said it before and I'll say it again, real chili does not have beans in it.

Posted by: mpur in Texas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at December 08, 2010 10:41 AM (QV82F)

Lots of people say "real" chili doesn't have any tomatoes, either.

I don't care if it's "real" or not -- just that it tastes good.

238 I've said it before and I'll say it again, real chili does not have beans in it.

Posted by: mpur in Texas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at December 08, 2010 10:41 AM (QV82F)

LOL, my wife is from TX and had her chili w/beans recipe. I am from GA but got my recipe for chili using beef and no beans from a friend in CA of Hispanic extraction.

Now we have a melding of the recipes.

239 > It is also a cheapskate way to "hire" great actors/actresses of old. Unless they pay the estates out of moral obligation, which they will probably won't. Not cheap at all. CGI is a lot more expensive than actors. Gollum was probably the most costly character in the whole LOTR trilogy.

240 Lots of people say "real" chili doesn't have any tomatoes, either.

I don't care if it's "real" or not -- just that it tastes good.

That's the great thing about chili cook offs.

241 Vic, that's what is great about food. You can play with it, despite what our mothers said. My wife is ok with spices, but she can't handle heat, which is what most people think of when they hear "spicy".  The buffets are nice she can stick with the milder stuff and I can go stone cold stupid.

242

The US has two space programs now: SpaceX and Vandenberg.

Neither one is part of NASA. Can we get rid of it, finally?

You know, 100% of the high-scoring kids in Shanghai were Chinese. I'll bet our Chinese are better than their Chinese, IYGWIM. Were I an NEA lobbyist, I'd be forgetting my roots right now and demanding a 'demographic' breakdown of those international scholastic standards. Certain parts of the American student body are probably doing quite well. Others not so much. 

243 I've said it before and I'll say it again, real chili does not have beans in it.
Posted by: mpur

Yeah, but big family tight budgets stretch "real" chili with the beans.

And the only reason we ever got chili beans growing up was to finish off the pinto bean soup by day 3.

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mpur, a while ago a friend of mine was going into a large grocery store. There were a number of people cooking out in the parking lot. He got talking to one and was inspired to come back and cook up a batch of his chili.

He didn't realize it was a cook off. He won first prize.

245 It's on:

Hackers claimed Wednesday to have taken down MasterCard's website in retaliation for the company's decision to cut off services to WikiLeaks.

The military is a little slow getting Cyber Command up and running.

246 @231 So I guess nobody has tried "Cincinnati style chili". Posted by: Ed Anger at December 08, 2010 10:39 AM (7+pP9) I have. It's very "eh". Sort of like Cal-Mex. I think of it as "chili for Democrats". Excuse me! Make that "chili for ball-less Democrats".

247 CGI most costly movie characters...

at present. But not  necessarily for long if everyone starts doing it and the technology becomes pedantic.

What movie a few years ago was it that featured it's title role around a digitally created female character as a novelty?

Resurrecting Charlie Chaplin, Douglas Fairbanks, Errol Flynn, John Wayne  or Humphrey Bogart in a novelty setting will transpose their image legacy into a revisionist role, changing essentially who their principle characters "were".  It's one thing to refurbish old reels from the first movies onward to current technological standards. And quite a different animal scooping old actors from their historical settings and stylistatic mannerisms, tossed into a modern (perverted) setting. Lucas is calling on the Ghosts of Movies Past to save the industry gone amok, and even that plot only has suspense once.

248 Muse, it'll be another novelty. You can put John Wayne in a commercial like they did a few years ago, but trying to make a new movie when we have so much of his real work will get old real fast. Just worry more about making good movies with what we have now and leave the gods in their heaven. 

249 "Friends of Wikileaks" launching hacker attacks at all the poeple who have shutdown Wikileaks.
Story at Fox.

250 When I was real young (late 1970's), I had a Frito Bandito t-shirt. Mom had to send in a dozen UPC codes off the bags or something, but I had one.

251 Beck was all over this yesterday.  And you guys think he's crazy.

I personally think he is prescient.  He cries on occasion because he's scared shitless.  As am I.

252 He cries on occasion because he's scared shitless.

I think it may also be partly a "cultural" thing.  We've been in Utah for about 4 months now and we've seen a lot of Mormon men cry (or at least get choked up) in various settings.  It seems as though a big component of how they practice their religion is a lot of personal testimony, much of it very emotion-based.  I believe Beck is a convert. 

253 The only thing from Cincinnati I'm into is Cornhole.

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I'm checking out the supermarket later to see if we have Fritos :-)

Posted by: Gabs

Will be scanning Aussie news for any unexplained fires!!11!!!

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