1

Ah, Lost is coming back on tonight. I know that's not a headlime, but it should be...

Hey, it's Tuesday.

2 Creigh Deeds, D-Bath, the defeated Democratic candidate for governor in 2009, said the [Virginia]legislature has more important business than playing politics with health care through a debate on where federal power ends and state authority begins.

Lawmakers, he said, should be more concerned about the aftershocks of the recession and closing the $4.2 billion hole in the Virginia budget.

"And now we're arguing about theory," said Deeds.

And he wonders why he lost!

3 American Thinker: The Fat Lady Sings for Keith Olbermann 

We can only hope.

Read the linked New Yorker profile, too. 

4
Everyone on the left is a child.

5 "BUSTED: Banker Caught Looking At Nude Girl While Colleague Is Talking Interest Rates On TV"

6

Will some shoot that damn rodent already?

Six more effing weeks of global mother effing warming!

http://tinyurl.com/ycqox99

I'm gonna freeze to death.

7 ... government has become too big and too much of a burden. Even if health care reform or a cap-and-trade carbon emissions scheme are no longer a threat, it's the "uncertainty" of all this government activity that is holding back business decisions, undermining job growth and threatening to cause further declines in economic activity. This is the key fear of many conservative pundits.

8

Top News of the day

O'Keefe being framed - over at Breitbart

On Fox TV

DeMint joining with the Dems to stealth in Porkulous II by amending it to contain a NYC terrorist trial bar. (of course they didn't report it that way)

 

9

Just an Fair and Balanced FYI:  The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission is currently looking for employees with AOS-level pron surfing skills.  Amateurs need not apply.

10 This is too funny since Erin Burnett was discussing the guys at the SEC accessing porn and she was saying "maybe if they weren't accessing porn they would have caught Bernie Madoff".....she said this during her segment on morning joe on MSNBC

11

DeMint Lindsey Graham joining with the Dems

What a screw up!

12 Obama Economic Advisers Found in Jungle Cave Thinking World War II Not Yet Ended: www.optoons.blogspot.com

13
Never fear!  Obama is going to give your tax dollars ($5000.00 dollars worth) to businesses who hire.

But don't call it whacked-out government bribery.

14

The “Exit Strategy” the Fed’s Bernanke is contemplating is nothing less than a total, unadulterated myth. This is the fairy tale you read to your young children at night where the government cuts back its spending and the Fed shrinks its lending. The private economy then picks up the slack, and the rest of us live happily ever after.

Unfortunately, this time there will be no Prince Charming riding in on a white horse.

15 Six more effing weeks of global mother effing warming!

Folks around here would like winter to only last six more weeks.  I'm still waiting for it to start.

16 PUNXSUTAWNEY, Pennsylvania (Reuters) - An American groundhog delivered his annual weather prediction on Tuesday, declaring that there will be six more weeks of winter after seeing his shadow.

17 If he would let me keep my tax money, I would hire a maid, a cook, and a yard guy. Is that a deal or what Obam?

18

Heather @ 3

That was good. He nuked Olberchild.

19 Who let Algore go to punxsutawney?

20 American Thinker: The Fat Lady Sings for Keith Olbermann 

Heather; They will just replace him with some other idiot from the left. The only way it will stop is if someone conservative buys the networks and fires ALL the producers and programers.

21

so we think Pork#2 will pass?  sh*t

22

You have to hand it to Holder, he does insane really well - http://tinyurl.com/ygggh3c

 

23 That was the fattest, laziest, most pampered groundhog in the country. But my wife thought the whole affair was cute.

24
Between 1789 and 2008, the U.S. government borrowed
a total of $5.8 trillion. But in just the first three years of the
Obama administration, the government is set borrow $4.4 trillion


TRUTH.  PASS IT ON.

25 I'm getting intel showing more Illinois primary voters are pulling GOP ballots.

This is really good news for Adam Andzrejewski(ange - EE - es - ski).  I finally spelled it right too.

26

DeMint Lindsey Graham joining with the Dems

What a screw up!

Thank God, Vic!  I was in total disbelief at that.

27

also, in re: Creigh Deeds quote above on Virginia Senate voting to bar federal healthcare mandates.  He is right because we shouldn't be running around wasting time barring federal mandates when our state law probably won't hold up in federal court anyway.  And he is right that we have a deficit in Virginia.

but Sen Deeds:  unlike all the Dem Congressman, the Va. Senate listened to their constituents.  Their constituents are now happy.  duh

28 Anyone see Joe Klein crapping on Eric Holder last night on Oreilly?

Where the hell did that come from?

29

Pretty interesting (imo) 'man bites dog' story:

http://tinyurl.com/ydysgrr

via Israel Matzav

30 Nominated for best-picture:  "Borat meets V" .. err .. "District 9"

31 I see on the sidebar some guy has come up with a computerized sex doll. Perhaps The Chicken will see relief?

32 Who's driving? I'll settle for "sit here in a slightly less foul mood."

33 @Kelley,

I disagree. It is vital that the states defend their rights against an increasingly aggressive federal government. Unfunded mandates from Washington have a huge amount to do with that big deficit.

It is not a theoretical discussion, it is an important message that the people of Virginia can send to their representatives in Washington.

34 I was promised an epic stalker thread, dammit!!

35 Obama administration is tone-deaf to concerns about terrorism Obviously, a partial diagnosis

36

*offers Herr M. a stalk of celery*

What?

37 Joanna@32--pop culture reference.

38
Groundhog day is so stupid.  Spring begins on March 20th - so in actuality, we have MORE than 6 weeks of winter on the way.

39

*offers Herr M. a stalk of celery*

What?

I want peanut butter, too.

40 34 Apparently the nut backed down and a truce was arranged.Much as I would have enjoyed the ace takedown, that was probably for the best.

41 Apparently the nut backed down and a truce was arranged.

I am very, very disappointed in the quality of stalker that Ace attracts, then.

42

Spring begins on March 20th - so in actuality, we have MORE than 6 weeks of winter on the way.

If you divide the year up into 3 month periods and call the 3 coldest months Winter, the three hottest months Summer and then call the others Spring and Fall, Spring begins March 1.

March 20/21 is the Sping equinox which really should be mid-spring.

Personally I like to call it when the first trees begin to bud and bloom. That is the first week in March here.

43

Apparently the nut backed down and a truce was arranged.

I am very, very disappointed in the quality of stalker that Ace attracts, then.

What is that all about?

44 We're entering a period of global warming.  Or, as I like to call it, Spring.

45

@37: I figured there was a reference, but I can't get to teh YooToobs from work.

 

I suppose Mein Herr will be demanding raisins next. Or sunflower seeds, if he's really feeling frisky. I don't care. *goes back to sucking down coffee to keep from punching the wall*

46

So, I read the sidebar item about the recent cold snap killing off coral in the Florida keys.

I found it interesting on two levels.  First, the LA Times didn't mention climate change or global warming at all other than to to say that coral is often bleached by temperature extremes both high and low. Secondly, the last time there was such a kill off due to low temps was in 1977 (when scientists were concerned with an impending ice age).

47 Backdoor Taxes to Hit Middle Class.

I guess Congress has been sooooooo darned busy "working for the people" they overlooked these things.  Seems 95% of Americans just isn't what it used to be.

Let the Barney Fwank jokes commence.

48 I suppose Mein Herr will be demanding raisins next. Or sunflower seeds, if he's really feeling frisky. I don't care. *goes back to sucking down coffee to keep from punching the wall*

Given my disappointment, Gummi Bears^® seem an appropriate comfort food at the moment.

I must say, however, that your sunflower seed comment intrigues me.

49 Ironically GWB took a lot of people OFF the tax rolls, kept the tax rate lower than clinton and people were happier and had more income to spend of things.  This guy is putting those people back on the tax rolls and they are in for a shock.  And, they are his base who said "BO is going to pay my mortgage and my utility bill and buy me a car".  So wonder if they will stick with him no matter what or if they too will go with the middle class.  Was shocked to read on here yesterday that his most faithful crowd is the highly highly educated, they won't admit they may have been wrong.  too funny

50 I must say, however, that your sunflower seed comment intrigues me.

If you're really nice to me, I might get out the chopped peanuts. Good LORD I do not want to be at work today.

51 Seems 95% of Americans just isn't what it used to be.

I'm starting to think Obama locked down his transcripts is because he hasn't had a math class since sixth grade.

52

Yesterday sucked.



That is all.

53

I'm not certain that inadvertently means what they think it means:

http://tinyurl.com/ykqwrhm

I inadvertently beat my wife every day for the last 20 years.  No really, it was an accident.

54 In PA, Spring starts March 20th or so. Six weeks from February 2nd still adds up to an early Spring, doesn't it? It seems Groundhog Day could have been meant to give a reason for people to be grateful. Somehow it turns into a pussy-ass bitchfest every year. If ya don't like extended periods of cold weather, STFU or move to a place where you can bitch about the lack of dramatic seasonal change. There, the pot has spoken. I have bitched about people who bitch. The circle is unbroken. Thank you, Punxsutawney Phil.  

55

Backdoor Taxes to Hit Middle Class.

Actually, the Crap and Tax stuff which is in the budget will hit people with a LOT more taxes that are not "backdoor".

56 http://tinyurl.com/ydsd2ow

Chris Matthews brings his A Game to the stupid olympics

57 55 I'm shocked the Associated Press admitted that.

Oh, & I don't want to go anywhere today, either.

58 Good LORD I do not want to be at work today.

Posted by: Joanna at February 02, 2010 10:06 AM (7+WuG)

Do what I due: fuck off all day and drink at lunch.

59
I want peanut butter, too.

You got it.

60 due=do.

Well, doo-doo.

61 Polynikes: They did the same thing on Burn Notice. I'm thinking it's third season-itis. *prays fervently for next fall's Fringe*

62 It's gonna be cold, it's gonna be grey, and it's gonna last you for the rest of your life.

Feh. 

63
Actually, the Crap and Tax stuff which is in the budget will hit people with a LOT more taxes that are not "backdoor".

I think they mean THROUGH your backdoor.

64 Beck played a clip of Gibsey at a presser where someone suggested that the administration "man up".  They are discussing his answer which was to say "we need the republicans on board".  Like Beck, have never understood the need to have the republicans on board.   As Beck is pointing out, with two super majorites, why can't they get anything done and how come it is being blamed on the republicans?

65

Ah, Lost is coming back on tonight. I know that's not a headlime, but it should be...

WHOO HOO!!!  Can't wait!

66

Do what I due do: fuck off all day and drink at lunch.

I would be all over that except I have no money for booze. At least I've got the first part down pat. Chapter 15 is getting done today if it kills me.

67

Over at HA headlines - China is warning the f--k out of Obama. 

They've got their ruler out and are slapping the shit out of the 'extended hand".  This should be telling how this works out.

68

just voted in suburban Chicago, i was the only person there. the word is that turnout is extremely light. a little snow keeps many people at home I guess. I only hope that the very light turnout advantages the real conservatives who are energized.

69 http://tinyurl.com/yjjofjg

Wiccan cut his girlfriend up for 'warlock'.

70

I think they mean THROUGH your backdoor.

I started to make a like comment but hesitated because this isn't the ONT.

71

That was the fattest, laziest, most pampered groundhog in the country.

You talking about the rodent, or Olbermann?

72 Somehow it turns into a pussy-ass bitchfest every year. If ya don't like extended periods of cold weather, STFU or move to a place where you can bitch about the lack of dramatic seasonal change.

*applause*

73
just voted in suburban Chicago

If you only voted once, you're not doing it right, at least in Chicago.

74

That was the fattest, laziest, most pampered groundhog in the country.

You talking about the rodent, or Olbermann?

I LOL'd. If he sees his shadow, we get six more weeks of winter; if he doesn't see his shadow, spring arrives in mid-March. It's foolproof!

75

"We've heard Jonathan is a stand-up guy, and he's writing what sounds like a fascinating, and highly relevant senior thesis.

His topic: “The Origins of the Safety Fund System (1829-1837)."

They are big on that.  Bear and Lehman...not so much and look, they're not around anymore.  Hmmm

Funny to see a Blankfein with hair.

Nepotism is alive and well on WS and at Haaaavad...

Always wonder how they manage to take any super intelligent but unconnected and deserving kids when they are so busy paying back people by taking their kids who may not necessarily be Haaavad material....which is why the "grade inflation" rumor persists.

76

Anyone else disappointed in the writing for this season of Chuck?

Haven't watched it enough to compare.

But I thought Psych sucked last week. I may be too harsh, though, cuz they were being stupid about military things which annoys me.

77 if you have a computer, check out last night's charlie rose show (no snickers, he wasn't a guffawing ass this time). with a former depty treasury secty (altman), sen. evan bayh (d-ind) and sen. judd gregg (r-nh), they lay out the catastrophic deficit and debt problem facing the country. gregg was outstanding and bayh didn't spout the dem. talking points. it was non-political, non-partisan, didn't blame bush or promote the left's ideology. in fact, it validated the liptonites (tea-baggers) and brown's election in mass. the ny media punditry saw it, i assure you, and it's effect was apparent on the morning talk shows. very sobering. see it.

78

How do we not know that Keith Olbermann is Punxsutawney Phil?

Because Keith would have started screaming about the shadow being racist and telling it to stop following him.

79 President Barack Obama is seeking to end a middle-class tax break he once said would be permanent.The $3.8 trillion budget request rolled out by the White House on Monday would renew the Making Work Pay tax credit for fiscal 2011, but then would have it sunset.

80 Beck is touting this site

81
if you have a computer

I'm not sure how likely that is on this blog, gomm.  Any other suggestions?

82 That site has an interesting piece about O'Keefe and Hannity.

83 incidentally, it also validates everything said here for the past year. gregg outlines the problem in no uncertain terms offering concrete solutions of a sort, which confirms that the republicans in the senate are serious, constructive and the sniping from the left (party of no) is baseless. i'd link it but don't know how. maybe "ace" or "drew" or someone here can post it. it's a very devastating half hour.

84 damn straight, dang straight. unfortunately.

85 solutions.... oh, yeah. i think it can be viewed at pbs.

86 Fascinating, the O'Keef trolls seem to be saying the exact same stuff the trolls were saying on the other thread, here.  Guess we now know the talking points.

87 just tell them ace sent you!

88 Tiiimmmmaaaaay is testifying.  But it looks as though he is in a debate contest and he is defending the prez's budget.  Is that why he is testifying, to defend the prez's budget?

89

Because Keith would have started screaming about the shadow being racist and telling it to stop following him.

And then bit the hand that tried to feed him.

90 And Chris Matthews compares the GOP to the Khmer Rouge.

91
And Chris Matthews compares the GOP to the Khmer Rouge.

Yeah, living at the bottom of that scotch bottle isn't doing him much good.  Maybe we'll get a two-fer and this dipshit and uberdouche will get fired the same day.

92 18

Heather @ 3

That was good. He nuked Olberchild.      

Ditto

      

 

 

93

What I can't stand about Charlie Rose, is that he always interrupts his guests. And some of his shows are good. But if he would just ask the damn question, then get out of the way to let them answer, then I actually would have watched him more than I do.

Which is little.

94 !!  Don't f**king tell me how to drive!!!  Goddammit!!!!!11!!

95

I don't think they'll get fired for anything they say. If anyone were going to, it would have happened long ago. Even Fox keeps Geraldo despite him talking about spitting on Michelle Malkin.

You'd think ratings matter, but I guess MSNBC is some sort of loss-leader for GE.

96

Don't drive angry!

True, that. I have nearly been in road accidents because I was in such a rage about what the Commiecrats were doing that I became less than alert.

97

gomm,

This works for me: copy/paste the entire address into the spot for URL (under the spot for Email) when you comment rather than the blog address all the cool kids have.   

PS, thanks for all the continued help with my e-mail beta test. I am sending your first e-mail laborer's check for $6,956.05 today. Keep up the good work!

Your internet pal,

Bill

98 That shithead Chrissy Matthews doesn't seem to realize the Khmer Rouge were communists. That is, much closer in philosophy to him and Olberchild than anyone on the right is. Idiots.

99 Don't drive angry!

How else you gonna' find out if your air-bag works?

100 I'm so tired of cloudy skies and mud.

101 From Washington Post:  Abstinence-only programs might work, study says

102

99

What I can't stand about Charlie Rose, is that he always interrupts his guests.

That's what drives me insane when I watch O'Reilly. It wears me out yelling SHUT UP at my TV. The dude is bipolar or something.

103

Apparently the nut backed down and a truce was arranged.

I am very, very disappointed in the quality of stalker that Ace attracts, then.

What is that all about?

Geez, I lay off of AoS for a couple of days and all the cool shiite happens.

104 Is that why he is testifying, to defend the prez's budget?

Well someone has to finance that piece of shit borrowing spree.

105

DeMint  Graham joining with the Dems to stealth in Porkulous II by amending it to contain a NYC terrorist trial bar. (of course they didn't report it that way)

 

Can anyone explain why Graham is making this deal?  From what I've heard, the administration was already backing down on trying KSM in NYC and has been actively searching for other venues.

106 Morning M&M's, anything interesting while I was away?, Did odumbass resign yet?

107 Morning 'Nam.  Where ya been?

108 "don't drive angry"

hey, it is almost Groundhog Day, isn't it!

109 What time do you guys get up in the morning?

110

I'm with IllTemperedCur.

What's the deal with the stalker?

111

To summarize, 'Nam Grunt, Keith and Chris poked their heads out of the hole (which one, I'll leave to your imagination), hoping to get sunflower seeds from Joanna, but instead saw a shadow. Chris started yelling about "Khmer Rouge" and Keith thought it was a woman, so they both re-inserted their heads and winter will end in March.

Questions?

112 Don't drive angry! Why are you in the fast lane blocking traffic? Shouldn't you be at home, bathing, you f'in hippy?!?!

113

And the other thing about Rose. Half the time when he interrupts, he states: "What I think you are saying here"...

Well hell, if you let them finish the answer to your question, then you might find out pretty much what they are saying. And then press them on the specifics.

Can you imagine if a typical Q&A in a magazine or paper were run like his live interviews?

It would barely make sense.

114 personally, i stopped watching rose by the late '90s when, swept away by the economic boom and clintonite hedonism, all he did was slobber over ceo's and actors, genuflecting to the altars of money and fame like most liberals (clinton made it guiltless - there was no greed or seflishness anymore, like magic). the most annoying was his unctious sycopantry over some actor's involvement in a crummy movie as if it was a earth-moving endeavor of High Art.

115 113, Busy fixing up my new house that I moved too in Lake Charles, La., now I'm a mile away from my #1 son's mansion. No more direct hits from hurricanes (4 in the past 5 years) at least an 80% chance of not being hit. hahaha!

116 You know what worries me, most of all?

Feral Beagles

That's what

117 Your son has a mansion? My son has my basement.

118 123, That's what I call it after he bought it last year, he's the #2 honcho in his worldwide chem. plant, so you can imagine.

119 Lake Charles, La. Isn't that in the song "Cripple Creek", by The Band?

120 Waves to the south from Shreveport/Bossier. Welcome!

121 125, It's in a bunch of old songs, nice town for sure all new with lots of business since they let in the casinos about 15 years ago.

122 126, Waves back, I lived here in the early 80's for awhile when all they had were dirt roads. haha

123

3 American Thinker: The Fat Lady Sings for Keith Olbermann 

We can only hope.

Read the linked New Yorker profile, too. 

And yet........somehow NBC thinks it's a good idea to put him on their Sunday Night NFL broadcast show. Maybe they're trying to save him from drowning in his own vomit, but I think it's a fool's errand.

124 Wait a minute. How in the hell do you blackmail an Ewok???? What could possibly be more embarrassing than running around nude amongst the Redwoods toting a spear and screaming "yub-yub"?

125 Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 02, 2010 11:05 AM (I/MqP)

Pictures of the Ewok getting a spear up his tailpipe?

126

Can anyone explain why Graham is making this deal?  From what I've heard, the administration was already backing down on trying KSM in NYC and has been actively searching for other venues.

Hahahahaha

Fox on there now talking about the bipartison support for this amendment 6 Dems and 3 Repubs. Who are the Rs???

Graham, McCain, and Collins.

We MUST purge these RINOs before they kill the Party.

This is a SMOKESCREEN for passing Pork II.

127

Wait a minute. How in the hell do you blackmail an Ewok???? What could possibly be more embarrassing than running around nude amongst the Redwoods toting a spear and screaming "yub-yub"?

Having Barack Hussain Obama as the president of your country.

128

What time do you guys get up in the morning?

Actually, about 7pm last night. I have an overnight job. About to go to bed soon.

129

You know what worries me, most of all?

Feral Beagles

That's what

I just watched a blurb on that on Fox. The talking babe said that they had been abandoned by rabbit hunters....get this....on Eastern Long Island.

I haven't been on Long Island since 1971 but, I don't think they have grown up a pile of woods to hunt rabbits in.

130 While driving home from work this AM, I spotted a Kerry / Edwards bumper sticker. It has been 274 weeks since those Bozos lost. Even Teresa has moved on. The guy that won in '04 finished his freakin' term. Kerry re-ran for senate in '08. Most of your ilk caught up with the Hopey Changey party line. WTF have you been for the past 5 years???

131 I call bullshit on the 6 weeks of winter until the prediction has been peer-reviewed.

132 119

And the other thing about Rose. Half the time when he interrupts, he states: "What I think you are saying here"...

I had a prof once who used to deal with that kind of stuff as follows:

Student:  "So, professor, what you're saying is...."

Prof:    "What I'm saying is,  is what... I... said."

 

133 136

You know what worries me, most of all?

Feral Beagles

That's what

I just watched a blurb on that on Fox. The talking babe said that they had been abandoned by rabbit hunters....get this....on Eastern Long Island.

I haven't been on Long Island since 1971 but, I don't think they have grown up a pile of woods to hunt rabbits in.

Posted by: Vic at February 02, 2010 11:11 AM (QrA9E)

First: "Feral Beagles" sounds like a great name for a band.

Second: There are a lot more woods on Long Island than you would think (which is a good thing) and also a very large number of people who have more money than brains (which is not a good thing).

134

I'm so tired of cloudy skies and mud.

Amen to that!  Whoever said winter is a beautiful season is was nuts. 

135 China is scolding the USA? Ahem, I notice that China sells arms (or anything else) to whomever they damn well please, any time they please. They put their army at choke points of the Panama Canal, and drill for oil off of Florida, while we cannot. Fuck China. And, yes, I know they hold our debt. Fuck that too.

136

Second: There are a lot more woods on Long Island than you would think (which is a good thing) and also a very large number of people who have more money than brains (which is not a good thing).

Do you think these dogs were abandoned by rabbit hunters?

137

"Fox on there now talking about the bipartison support for this amendment 6 Dems and 3 Repubs. Who are the Rs???

Graham, McCain, and Collins."

The names don't surprise me in the least.  A triumvirate of suck.

So, what you're saying is that they're already on board with Son of Porkulous, regardless, and the proposed amendment is nothing more than a way to keep up the image of having some conservative bona fides? 

138 incidentally, "sycophantry" is not a word. so i don't want to hear you getting in trouble in school and "but i saw it at aoshq" is not going to cut it.

139 not a word... yet.

140 @144

Yes.

141

Posted by: Vic at February 02, 2010 11:07 AM (QrA9E)

They always attempt to bargain from the assumption that they'll lose. In this case they assume that Porkulus II will pass, so they try to attach something to it. Maybe instead of assuming that it will pass they should try to kill it; I don't care what they call it, the American people aren't going to suffer another so-called stimulus plan. I swear, there must be a fog of ignorance that surrounds DC that numbs the minds of those who work there.

I really don't like these people.

142 144

Second: There are a lot more woods on Long Island than you would think (which is a good thing) and also a very large number of people who have more money than brains (which is not a good thing).

Do you think these dogs were abandoned by rabbit hunters?

Posted by: Vic at February 02, 2010 11:18 AM (QrA9E)

148 @144

Yes.

Posted by: Nighthawk at February 02, 2010 11:19 AM (OtQXp)

They were either abandoned by the hunters, because recreational hunting has slacked off with the economy, or by breeders because they are slightly "flawed" or because they were bred to service the market in Beagles that arose after that Beagle won Top Dog at the dog show a couple of years ago and now the demand has slacked off there.

People like that really piss me off...

143 #111

Because he's a RINO shit-weasel.

144

and the proposed amendment is nothing more than a way to keep up the image of having some conservative bona fides? 

Yes, that is exactly what I am saying. Of course they haven't said defintitly that is the bill they will use.  It just keeps being mentioned as the next available one.

They may be floating this as a "trial balloon" to see how people react.

145

They were either abandoned by the hunters......

Somehow I doubt that these dogs were abandoned by hunters. Most likely they were abandoned by the run of the mill "pet owners" who could no longer take care of them.  This is where 99% of ferrel dogs and cats come from.

Also, it has been my experience that hunters who are serious enough to use a dog for hunting or good stewards of the environment and care deeply for their dogs.

Of course that experience is all in the South.

 

146
Don't Drive Angry scene, for those of you that don't have a clue.

147
There's no way HUNTERS are dumping those dogs.  Some dipshit suburbanite got a cute beagle puppy and threw it out of the car when it grew up and started baying. 

Damn I hate animal abusers.

148

"They may be floating this as a "trial balloon" to see how people react."

My reaction is "fucking idiots."  The Senate doesn't need to do a thing.  The whole idea of trying terrorists in civilian courts was imploding on its own.  IMO, they should let the administration either admit defeat and retreat from the idea or let them double down.

Let Obama and Holder own it.

149 154

They were either abandoned by the hunters......

Somehow I doubt that these dogs were abandoned by hunters. Most likely they were abandoned by the run of the mill "pet owners" who could no longer take care of them.  This is where 99% of ferrel dogs and cats come from.

Also, it has been my experience that hunters who are serious enough to use a dog for hunting or good stewards of the environment and care deeply for their dogs.

Of course that experience is all in the South.

 

Posted by: Vic at February 02, 2010 11:29 AM (QrA9E)

By "hunters" I refer to those individuals who organize "hunts" for the Wall Street types who are looking for a week-end thrill, not people who actually hunt themselves.  I don't think those folks would mistreat their dogs.

150

By "hunters" I refer to those individuals who organize "hunts" for the Wall Street types

OK, hunt brokers, I could see that, but I still think most of them come from run of the mill pet owners.

151 159

By "hunters" I refer to those individuals who organize "hunts" for the Wall Street types

OK, hunt brokers, I could see that, but I still think most of them come from run of the mill pet owners.

Posted by: Vic at February 02, 2010 11:35 AM (QrA9E)

Maybe, but from what I saw growing up and living there for most of my life I think it's more likely to be from unscrupulous breeders or the aforementioned hunt brokers. 

152

"Damn I hate animal abusers."

Ditto.  I almost adopted a damned near blind Husky from the local shelter.  I've got two already and figured he'd adjust well to being in a pack, as it were.

They found the dog abandoned and wandering and were actually able to find the owners. They said that the dog was just too much work and they didn't want him back.

Luckily for the dog, a guy came down from VT the same day I was going to see about adoption and picked him up.  A story in the local rag says he's doing well.

153 130 Wait a minute. How in the hell do you blackmail an Ewok???? What could possibly be more embarrassing than running around nude amongst the Redwoods toting a spear and screaming "yub-yub"?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 02, 2010 11:05 AM (I/MqP)

 

Just don't teach them how to fly.

154 I tend to agree with #156, Beagles are not ideal indoor pets, very lovable, yes, but they like to dig and sing, qualities which do not lend themselves to indoor life.

155 Just wanted to let runningrn, vic, monty, nam g and the rest of ya know that my surgery went well and I'm already able to do a lot more than I thought I would be able to at this time. Haven't needed a pain med since yesterday 5am and can already raise my upper arm to just higher than shoulder level. You morons behave and I'll be back to ruin your threads in a week or so. Be good to each other and stomp a few trolls for me.

156 Good for you teej. I understand there was some sort of BB game here in Kansas the other night. Hope you got to see it.

157 Rock On, teej.

158

Posted by: teej at February 02, 2010 11:47 AM (7l/Pe)

Glad to hear it Teej. Look forward to having you back in the threads.

159 IPCC cited boot cleaning guide as evidence

160 I just KNEW that there was a good reason that I hated spit-shining boots in the Army....

161

Posted by: teej at February 02, 2010 11:47 AM (7l/Pe)

 

I've been thinking about you and wondering how everything went.  I'm so glad that everything is going so smoothly!  Yea!  I'm glad you aren't having too much pain.  One of the things you really have going for you is your high fitness level.  I think you will heal quicker than the average bear.  Thanks for letting us know how you're doing.  I will keep you in my prayers.

162 Holy poop! They may actually do it.

The Treasury Is Soliciting Your Feedback Regarding The Proposed Annuitization Of 401(k)

(link to Zerohedge)

163 Uh, Mike Murphy actually wins campaigns.

The right will be each other up forever trying to explain the problems with the John McCain for President campaign.

Murphy is unlikely to say this again, but his initial beef over the Palin pick was that it really only appealed to the GOP base.  It did.  But that was the big problem with McCain.  By the time he was the nominee he still had to shore up the base.

The tanking economy elected Obama.  It was the perfect vehicle to hand Obama the election.

164

good to hear you're on the mend teej

Yesterday was a great day (I got to get out and ride for fun not work for the first time in a long time, and I got a job interview -- jumps around room clapping ecstatically and thanking God! and just jumping around ecstatically).  Plus, no matter what, I don't expect spring to get here until April 1st -- that way I'm not disappointed because my expectations are so very low.  And the ground hog is cute...Olby, not so much.

165 On the Meg Whitman hiring Mike Murphy thing, my question is why any campaign would want those losers with them to begin with? Most associated with the McCain campaign should be hiding in shame...instead, they're being hired by other GOPers and writing books?

166 It's not like Mike Murphy is "0 for 8 Bob Shrum".

Murphy knows the CA landscape very well.  It's a good hire for Whitman.

167 The best short film of They are made out of meat is still this one. Hard to beat Tom Noonan. Or Ben Bailey in this case.

168

Canadian (New Foundland) Premier to get heart surgery in the UNITED STATES.

http:// www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=2510700

Gee, I thought Canada's health care system was so superior....

169

"Feral Beagles"

I'll be in my bunk.  ^{_{With a jar of JIF.}}

170 ouch!

171 I think most Ace readers are sick of scientists handing down proclamations from on high, so here are the facts as far as I can see: Wakefield's theory is that the Measles-Mumps-Rubella (MMR) vaccine is linked to various gastrointestinal disorders which then cause autism. This idea rests heavily on his finding of sequences from the measles virus genome in blood cells and intestinal tissue of autistic kids. To simplify, he took a bunch of kids with autism who had gastrointestinal symptoms prior to their diagnosis and found they had measles virus particles in their guts. What might have caused that measles exposure? Well, it could have been measles in the environment, but it also could have been the MMR vaccine all these kids seemed to be getting not long before diagnosis. The MMR vaccine uses live virus, so it is not unreasonably to harbor this suspicion, and despite not attempting to distinguish how these kids got the measles in their gut, Wakefield's theory does sound pretty good so far. Apparently it sounded good enough and important enough that the Lancet would even publish it... Now, despite the internal consistency of Wakefield's thinking, his sample size was 12 kids - not something to make or break public health policy on... So to support or negate the theory, several investigators attempted to duplicate this finding of measles virus particles in the guts of autistic kids. Nobody has successfully done it in the 12 years since Wakefield's publication. That's a big problem for Wakefield's theory - and apparently it led others to question his methods. Whether he did colonoscopies on kids at parties or not, the relevant issue is whether he lied about finding measles virus in these kids' guts. If he did lie, it could still be true that there is connection between some gut problems and autism, but MMR and measles infection don't necessarily enter into it. What about the connection between these kids getting MMR and shortly thereafter being diagnosed with Autism? The diagnostic criteria for autism include abnormalities in social, communication and behavioral domains. The first dose of MMR is given at 12-15 months of age, around the time the average kid is developing a vocabulary of a handful of words and the awareness to share experiences with peers through pointing and eye contact (18 months). It follows then that many diagnoses of autism come in this age range, since it is often the case that autistic spectrum abnormalities are not detectable in the first year of life. Whether or not that explains away the temporal connection between getting the MMR vaccination and an autism diagnosis, is there actually an increased risk of autism among kids who get the MMR vaccine? 1) A Danish study containing over half a million kids including over 100 000 who had not been vaccinated with MMR looked the back into the charts to find out the rates of autism among those who were not vaccinated and those who were. As it turned out, those WITH the MMR vaccination were less slightly likely to be diagnosed with autism, albeit this was not a statistically significant. (RR 0.92, CI 0.68-1.24) 2) A CDC study of 624 kids with autism and 1824 matched controls looked back at school entry vaccination records, the MMR rates not significantly different. Another similarly designed study of 1294 cases of autism spectrum disorders in the UK found that autistic children were somewhat more likely to have been the those who DID NOT get the vaccine. Again this difference was not statistically significant. The Danish study is probably the most valid and reliable study of all of them, but there are at least a dozen smaller studies that corroborate the finding of no difference in autism rates among those given MMR. In the medical world, the book is closed on this issue, and the whole issue is a stain on the Lancet's reputation. Peer review is great and should be used appropriately, but as we all know too well, scientists can be big time liars, and journal editors can't catch them all even when trying to do an honest job of it. It happens that this lie was not only vastly expensive, but also dangerous as there have been measles outbreaks (in places like Minnesota) as a direct result of this paper. It's no wonder 10 of the 13 original authors had foresworn the paper by 2008, and now the Lancet wants to purge itself... A Good Reference: (Clinical Pharmacology & Therapeutics (2007) 82, 756–759; doi:10.1038/sj.clpt.6100407; published online 10 October 2007)

172 Didn't have space for all the juicy stuff I wanted to put in the "death of global warming" headline. It's written by a greenie! He's lamenting. and this. > For better or worse, the global political system isn’t capable of producing the kind of result the global warming activists want. It’s like asking a jellyfish to climb a flight of stairs; you can poke and prod all you want, you can cajole and you can threaten. But you are asking for something that you just can’t get — and at the end of the day, you won’t get it. The grieving friends and relatives aren’t ready to pull the plug; in a typical, whistling-past-the-graveyard comment, the BBC first acknowledges that even if the current promises are kept, temperatures will rise above the target level of two degrees Celsius — but let’s not despair! The BBC quotes one of its own reporters: “BBC environment reporter Matt McGrath says the accord lacks teeth and does not include any clear targets on cutting emissions. But if most countries at least signal what they intend to do to cut their emissions, it will mark the first time that the UN has a comprehensive written collection of promised actions, he says.” Gosh! A comprehensive written collection of promised actions! And it’s a first!! Any day now that jellyfish is going to start climbing stairs. Sure, it will be slow at first — but the momentum will build! I love that jellyfish up the stairs bit.

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